 So part of the, I think the challenge of keeping track of all of this is kind of some geographic differences, differences in response. So if we take South Korea, and we talked about this last time of how South Korea's response was, you know, about as good as it can get, I guess. And I don't know if you still think that, but it's obviously in terms of outcome has had really positive outcome. But then why is it that it hasn't come back stronger given that they haven't really had as much social distancing? No travel restrictions, as far as I know really in South Korea. Why don't we see this as a constant kind of up and down with them? They get a few cases, but it doesn't seem like it's anything dramatic. It's hard to say exactly what's going on in all those countries. We know that South Korea acted really quickly, took all the right actions exactly as if you were writing like a textbook on how to respond to an emerging infectious disease outbreak. That's what they did. And they got a lot of reward for it because they didn't have that type of debt. But they are, I do don't suspect that they're not going to have mild cases. It could be that more cases occurring. I think it could be the fact that how much travel is occurring outside of the country. Did they get all of their cases extinguished and there's maybe a small ebb and flow of imported cases that are coming from other places? Because I know international travel is down everywhere and that may be something. Because when you look at places like China, for example, they're getting cases that are imported from other parts of the world. And it may be that travel restrictions that have occurred there have kept their cases low. But the overall goal in all of these places is not going to be to keep cases to zero. That's impossible. It's going to be keep cases below a level that the hospitals can handle them. And I think that's what you have to do everywhere. And that's the metric to use because this is going to happen everywhere that when they open, they're going to say they've opened too early. And it's not just because cases go up. It's because the cases put their hospitals in problem. So you're hearing about Japan, at least I think on the island of Hokkaido where they had to re-institute an emergency declaration because the cases went up too quickly after they peeled back. So this is going to be kind of this tug of war with this virus, trying to see how much we can do safely before we get into another crisis. And it may not happen in every place. It's really going to be dependent on population density and hospital capacity in each geographic area. So there's no easy answers here. Yeah, I think the numbers in the new cases in Singapore, the numbers I saw overwhelmingly in kind of the migrant worker populations, they're in these dormitories where these migrant workers live in very, very tight living spaces. And they travel in and out of Malaysia. Most of the migrant workers are Malai. And that's where I think it was something like 90% of all the new cases. Singapore has a very unique outbreak and they have a very unique system where all these migrant workers in the dormitories that they live in are really going to be hotbeds for spread because they don't social distance as well there. And Singapore is interesting because it was a case where they didn't close schools. And I think that's an example, lots of us are using when we're trying to argue for opening schools back up in the United States. So speaking about a place that didn't close schools, what is your sense of what is happening in Sweden? And what we can learn from it and whether, you know, because you read, you know, it's horrible how politicized, right? Everything has come. So some news outlets all for Sweden and anything they do is fantastic. Other news outlets, it's, you know, Sweden is the devil and everything they do is horrific. So what's your sense of how Sweden has done in this crisis? So you have to expect if you allow the virus to go that you're going to get more deaths and that's what they have more deaths per capita, their death rate is increasing, and they're getting a lot of criticism for it. It's unclear to me what their hospital capacity is in how much hospital capacity they have to spare. This is kind of, I would say, almost a societal value judgment that they made that this is the way that they were going to do this. I know that some of their deaths have been in nursing home patients, and I know that some of these Scandinavian countries are much different about end of life care than places like the United States, for example. So I think that this is maybe a philosophical difference that we're seeing underlying this. I do think they're going to get more deaths that are going to be criticized for that. They may reach herd immunity, but it may be a very big societal cost. And they're not completely letting everything open. Obviously, certain mass gatherings are banned. People are social distancing, teleworking. It's not quite nearly like what we're doing in the United States, but this is something that I think really is explained by the underlying philosophical approach they took. And I don't think if we would have not done anything in New York City, those hospitals would have probably caved. It would have went into crisis standards of care with rationing. So I do think that there were hotspots in the United States that if no action were taken, we would have been in a disaster, a worse disaster than we were already in. And I think that this type of a solution isn't what you can do in every place. It really has to be geographically driven. And the jury is still out on exactly what happens with Sweden. And they are going to take a lot of criticism because they made that decision. And it's interesting to me that Sweden chose to do this. And at the same time, didn't do the kind of testing and kind of tracking and isolating. And to the extent that something somewhere like South Korea did. So you'd think that they would combine the two and not just leave society open, but not engage in the testing. Yeah, so I think that's also something to come up with criticism, to criticize them, because if you were going to do that, you want to make sure you could easily expire a lot of control to a point where hospitals can't handle it. The only way you're going to keep that down is by at least doing testing and doing isolation of infected cases and trying to understand their contacts and keeping track of all of that. So to do this kind of, they kind of took the false alternative of letting the virus completely go as much as you could with some social distancing versus a Wuhan style lockdown where you basically had a police state type of tactic. I've also read somewhere that in Sweden's case, the primary deaths are obviously in nursing homes, but also among they've got a huge immigrant population from the Middle East, which again don't socially distance and, you know, so very similar to Singapore, and who live in very confined spaces and multi-generational spaces. So they're not typical traditional Swedes who tend to socially distance almost naturally and don't have that. So, you know, they've got a little bit of that Singapore, you know, aspect to them where they have two kind of societies in the same space. What we need today, what I call the new intellectual would be any man or woman who is willing to think, meaning any man or woman who knows that man's life must be guided by reason, by the intellect, not by feelings, wishes, women's or mystic revelations. 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