 Good morning once again. I'm back. My name is Joy Mochache as we continue whining the morning Remember today's Tuesday entrepreneurship and what we do is focus on different people who are doing different kinds of businesses And most of them tend to be youth people and before we meet our next guest I'd like to let you know how you can reach us. That's Facebook Y254 channel and on Twitter as well Y254 channel remember We also have an Instagram that is Y254 underscore channel and the YouTube would like for you to subscribe and to watch our videos You can even find this interview and many many more and that is on Y254 channel on YouTube as well And you can follow me on Joy underscore Mochache. Karibuni Sana. I'd like to welcome our guests She's a graphics designer. Her name is Masi Kitaka. Yeah, yes We're glad to have you on the show Masi. Can I just call you by your first name? It's okay. It's okay Yeah, so so so your graphics designer. Yeah, wow. That's that's interesting That's very interesting. How did you get into graphics design? The love I had for art Made me have that passion to do graphic design and started back years ago when I was so young to young Actually, I'm still too young. Really. Yeah, you're still too young. Yeah, okay. I'm only 22 years You're 22 years. Yeah, most ladies are not comfortable sharing their age. I'm glad you're so comfortable with that I wish I was 22. I remember those times man. So yeah, make the most of it. Go on Yeah, so I got a passion when I was so young but now I started implementing it when I got in campus I studied BA in finite at KU Kenyatta University. You did a BA? Yeah in fine fine arts fine arts Yeah, we call it art and design. Okay. Yeah, it's so broad. So I decided to major in graphic design And a bit of animation Uh-huh. Yeah, but for today, let's do it in graphic design graphics design animation So the field is broad and you decided that it's best for me to just focus on graphics design Yeah, and can I ask how long have you been doing this for? Okay, I've done it for four years in school. Okay, but now about entrepreneurship I think I'm in my fourth month your fourth month. Yeah. Oh, you're precise You seem excited about this Are you how what's your feeling are you happy to be? Doing graphics design. Yeah, I'm so much happy Yes, especially now that I got the title as a madam CEO. You did. Yeah. Oh, where did you get the title? Okay, I the first time I decided that I should come up with this brand name Masidankan creations. Yeah, and I thought oh, why don't I call myself a CEO? Because my dream is one day it should be a very big thing and I'll still maintain that title as a CEO So let's feel good doing it saying that I'm a CEO Masidankan creations a graphic designer Yes, and an emitter Yeah, it feels so good. You feel good. It sounds good also CEO keep it up You know, it's good to speak things positively. I believe in speaking things into existence I'm one of those who believes when you say something it comes to be You say something bad it will come to be if you say something good it will come to be So if you're calling yourself see oh, it will come to be and let me ask you I've heard you saying and I know your your your particular brand is called Masidankan. Yeah, Duncan Duncan question mark Duncan Yeah Where's that from the Duncan part actually most people wonder why Duncan and my name is Masigidaka. Yeah Okay, Duncan is my surname Your son name. Yeah, so It's Masigidaka Duncan. Yeah, really so my son name First name of my dad and the reason I decided to use Duncan It's because I was like what if this thing becomes international. I don't want to be like I'm a kikuyu Okay, I'm proud to be a kikuyu. You should be yeah, but the thing is I wanted to make it a bit international Okay, not to look so African But we have people like out there They've been enjoying their names like Lupita Nyong'o and they like you know saying that name and they bush at that name all The time because they're not used to it. Why did you feel they need to change your African name? To fit into international bands. I love it's been MD Okay. Yeah, because I was like MG MD. I felt it so professional being MD Masidankan. Okay. Yeah, okay No, that's fine. That's fine. Whatever your heart's comfortable with and moving right along. I need to know what exactly made you enter into this I know you said it was cool. I know you said it's your passion, but there's a time a young person Decides that you know what? I'm going to run it and I'm not stopping once I begin I'm going to continue going what made you get to that point because not many young people you ate 22 Do you know what 22 year olds are doing? I know you know, yeah, you know what they're doing Yeah, so what is it about that? You're so young. What made you decide and to stay focused in this? Which is a beautiful thing by the way Okay, when I was young as I said before I had that passion doing art So back in high school. I did art and design Back at material girls and so the passion grew more and more and when I went to campus I was like I should do graphic design because one thing with graphic design. You don't have to be employed at times Yeah, you don't yeah, you can start a business by your own So like if I do graphic design, I'll also be able to explore more You know one thing with graphic design you're able to communicate through image through words without even talking. Yes Yeah, so I decided I should do graphic design and so far so good. I feel I'm comfortable in the field No regrets even being young. I feel I'm going somewhere You're going somewhere. Yeah, and I'll touch on that a bit later on and since we've already discussed How would you are when you started it and what made you begin? I've heard you when you're explaining say that You know Okay Young people especially, you know, you want you don't want to have this nine to five job for you You'd rather be your own boss as I hear so you're your own boss. Yeah, and that's why you call yourself CEO as well Okay, when you're explaining you said graphics design is something that explains things in images Yeah, you know the people who are watching who have had graphics design Yeah, I'm scared, but you know, they don't know what it entails exactly now that we've discussed how you how you started off What exactly does this entail? Graphics design you said it explains things through an image. Do you mind going deeper into that? Okay in graphic design You'll find for example, you can express yourself too much using graphic design more than even how you explain by talking for example even to Do a production of a poster? The poster can talk too much about what you want to talk about Because the images you use the words you use they have to express what you want to say it if you want to speak out Okay. Yeah, so graphic design is much of talking and expressing through images. I can say pictorial composition Yeah, okay. I think there's going to reach a point where they'll display the things and as we wait for that They display your images as we wait for that. We need to continue with a Getting to know each other, you know There's someone that not someone but I just know that you know what goes around the knowledge is that graphics design is a very male dominated industry That mostly it's men that take this venture that they're females. Yes, but they're few of them So being a male dominated industry. What does it feel like as a young? I mean G's 22 as a young youth female in such a male dominated business I'm so humbled by the way. Yeah finding that I mean the field You know when I was in campus Actually, most of the males in our class Okay, those guys in graphic design So I was like why we ladies are we not so much into graphic design But it's one thing I came to discover is in graphic design. You have to be so creative You have to be so original in yourself So most people take it like we ladies you can't overthink or we don't have creativity. Yeah We don't have that creativity. So I decided to break into it and be like I can be so creative I can be so original in myself and show out that ladies can also be in the field and give out something so good Yeah, and we'll like we'll talk more about that but first of all, I wanted to understand this looks like a magazine cover Yeah, did you do this by yourself? Yeah, I did it by myself. Okay. Is this Okay, what is this about? Okay? It's also a page in the magazine. It's a page in the magazine. Yeah And what part did you play in? In the designing everything. Okay. Yeah, I started it from the scratch Okay, and the bench fun side of reality. Okay. This is a logo for a show Uh-huh. It's a show on a certain media station. So I had to do it and they were like They loved it. I love it. I love it. It's it's very unique It's very unique. I like how the bench is on that side and it's kind of twisted, you know facing that way Yeah, I don't think I have this talent. If you tell me make me a poster that's written the bench fun side of reality I'll just write the bench fun side of reality and hand it over Okay, and as you said as a they think men in the industry tend to think that women don't have Creativity, you're a very creative lady from what I've seen It's yeah, you're very talented. I think it's something that comes naturally for you Yeah, is there anybody else in the family that is Doing art because when it comes to art usually it comes from some way Like you may talk about mommy. I may talk about daddy always always Yeah Okay, what I can say is no one does art in our family But for my grandma she does the weaving of baskets Okay, so I think somehow I can put it as art because back in campus Weaving was also in the field of art and design. Okay, but now for me I went ahead to do more on computer work So I find myself. I'm the one who does graphics in our family Yeah, and actually I recall when I was to go in campus and do art and design people are like I'm not cause you happy You know people think I can design it's all about drawing just drawing some one and that's all they don't know There's much into art and design So I think I'm the only one actually I'm done one in our family and they're always still some may be wondering My zoom a fan at end design. So where will you be working will you be going to draw people and Not most people know about graphic design They don't understand Graphic design where will you work? Yeah And graphic design is everywhere There's no company that doesn't have a graphic designer and that you can make you can be sure of that I can be sure house in a Java house Everywhere the graphic designers the graphic is I saw those people should stop asking. They'll always be a place for you Yeah, oh my gosh, and now that you've said your grandmother does some kind of art Yeah, what is your family feel about your work when they see things like this? How do they feel I? Can say they are my first clients They are my first. Okay. They really support me Actually, I really thank my parents so much my dad my mom and my two big brothers Okay, they really support me in graphic design because I recall when I finished campus They were like must you what do you want to do with your life? I mean when I finished high school, what do you want to do with your life? I was like I want to do at end design, but they were not there to say At end design this engineering. There's medicine. Oh, yes There was so much to support me and that's how I got into the field So they didn't try to make you into a doctor or try to say she'd be an accountant should be a lawyer Okay So they had to push it for me to get where I wanted to be They saw the talent when you were young. Yeah, right You know, I like your parents go and go and give them a good handshake for my behalf because yeah, it takes It's important for parents to look at their child and see oh, this is what my child is good at and whatever your child is good at You better maximize on it. Yeah maximize on it completely. So they did the right thing. That's good. And you have parents for example their children come home and they're good at maybe film production or some kind of editing or Graphics design maybe but their parents are not having the same mindset as yours So they would say things like no, this is no, how can you know what you'd be a doctor? I want you to be a lawyer, you understand But this is something that is an art in them and the thing about art is I You know, I think I've said this in another interview thing about art is it comes from inside So when you do it, it comes out so well because it's a gift. Yeah, and it's something that you love And so I always encourage parents. I'm not a parent myself But when I get children I'll be looking like what's my kid good at? Is he playing football? Is he playing an instrument? What is he is he talking? Well, which one is it now maximize on it's the best thing. Yeah, so your parents have done well and I need to ask about Competition going back even to the discussion we had about it being a male-dominated field What's the competition like for a young lady like you? The competition is so high So high because nowadays graphic designers are so many, you know, nowadays you don't have to go to school There's the YouTube you go to the tutorials and get the knowledge So we are so many the competitors are so many So you have to be original for you to come out Outstanding be original and creative in your own self Look out what others are doing for you to know if this is doing this if this one is doing this What about me? What can I do to stand out? Yeah, yeah, that's really great. And when it comes to Your friends, I know you said that they asked you where you're going to work with You know, where's your office going to be now that they see what you're doing? And I know some of them are still saying that I'm sure you've gotten some support Have any of them reached out even family members to ask you must see I'd really like for you to do for me an image Consigning ABC and D. Yeah, how's it happened from your close friends and family? Yeah, actually I've done one for my family Okay, the RMS Okay, it's all about rice. It's a rice meal in stores rice Actually, they were my first client Okay, that's support. Yeah, they were like must hear a graphic designer We can go look for another graphic designer out there. So you have to design for us So I was like, yeah, actually I should start with you guys because you'll give me the support Of course the way and for my friends. I can say they also support me so much Because they also friends who are like, not this must hear a C. Oh, I need you to do this for me Yeah, you know that that supports me. Yeah, and so they give you some kind of respect as well Yeah, okay. Now I need to ask you Things to do with the future because I know that young people Especially your age or even those ones were a bit younger when it comes to the future sometimes they don't even think about it Am I right or wrong? True. Yeah, you find a lot of youth who don't think about the future Yeah, they know which job they want. They know like yeah one day I want to be a lawyer and maybe then University for it But they've not known I want to target this particular law firm So and so is my mentor. I need to speak to him at some point to get some ideas from him things like that And so for you when you look into the future, what are your plans as a graphics designer? for both yourself and also for messy Duncan creations Okay, for my future. I see myself as a great graphic designer I'm still great but much great and Seen myself with that big company Where I even employ people people coming for internships attachments and all that and even exploring more to be so much International that's why I also decided to use MD. Okay. It's an international. I say it's international It will get there one international brand. Yeah, apart from you changing it to MD What else have you done to take your brand to the level you wanted to reach? Okay before then I was an intern at a certain media house and Back then I used to do so much of graphic design. That's why I decided now I should come up with the MD not to look like I'm doing for others now. I can also produce my own Yeah, okay. Oh, that's great. That's great. So if I don't know what I should call you messy Duncan I should stick to messy get back up. But you know, I'm always for what makes people comfortable So CEO MD. Yeah, tell me as a 22 year old What would you say to somebody who'd like to be a graphic designer, but they don't know how number one They're scared because the competition is high and I want you to talk to girls today That will be your camera. I want you to talk to girls and ask not ask tell them How to be in this male-dominated industry and I know it takes a fearless heart Yeah, I mean Men are not easy to be around. Wow. I say so I commend you for that What would you say to a young girl who wants to enter a male-dominated industry? But she's just so scared and she just doesn't know the first step to take Okay, what I can say to the ladies is especially now the ladies since I'm young and I'm a lady Yeah, what do you want to do with your life first? Sit down think before you act after thinking now act out and be like you want to be a graphic designer look for a mentor who can mentor you who can mentor you on what you want to do and Also be there to explore more Don't just sit down and want to do on your own sit with others to explore more and after you've gotten the knowledge Don't be comfortable Explore more to do more and more and more don't be comfortable on where you are for example I call myself a CEO. I'm not comfortable thinking I've made it I want to go more and more so ladies Know what you want go for it and don't go for the sponsors You can do it on your own man. You can do it for your own on your own with God first in everything. Yeah I'm so happy you said that. Thank you because you know, I know you when we said we know what girls are doing at your age Yeah, that's what we're talking about and so we've encouraged them to go into business more and It doesn't matter if it's a male-dominated industry, you know get that strength up put your braveness on There's nothing you can't do by the way in this world There's nothing you cannot do as long as you love something and you put your mind to it and I'm sorry. I believe in a higher power and you give that thing to a higher power, whatever it is to you Really really you'll succeed at what that is. So always always know what you know where you want to go That's the first thing messy is that these 22 years old and she knows where she wants to go You know, she's done her university. I had you saying something about a mentor That's also very important having someone who has been through what you want to go through Speaking to you and you speak into them you learning from their experiences and you making them a friend is very important as well and Who's your mentor if I may ask? Okay in the graphic design my mentor is Ben Farid Ben Farid, okay He's a great graphic designer. Uh-huh and he has taught me a lot. Actually. I big up For Ben Farid, okay, if it were not for him, I don't know if I would be so creative What did Ben for you do when I went for my internship? Yes He really picked me up from somewhere where I thought I couldn't be what was your internship done? I was at focus TV focus TV. Yeah, all right. So at focus TV Ben Farid, uh-huh I went to see if I had never done it before. Okay, and he was there to start from the scratch He took me through all the procedures everything till here. I am wow So you pulled you up. Yeah, so you know must you have to pull someone else up. Yeah, I have to Let the goodness follow you you can be pulled up then you keep it for yourself You have to pull someone else up So if any young girl reaches out to you at the social media handles I will ask you to say soon if any one of them reach out to you show them the ropes, you know Don't be stingy with advice. Yeah, it always comes back to you Yeah, and so before we close Do you find this being a Business that you can stand on I is it putting food on your table enough food or is it a Struggle Okay, what I can say is you know money is never enough Yeah, but I can say it has really made me be able to put something on the table. Okay One thing with graphic design is that I love people who support us, you know, there are people who think art is Very simple. They want to pay very little art is expensive because you're using our mind to be creative Exactly, so you have to give us something big and it has really made me richer. I am okay I can pay my bills and all that. Okay. Yeah, but also it's a part from my parents. Okay. Yeah, I'm really proud of you I'm proud of you as a young lady as a young entrepreneur and that you're entering into this venture Please continue to and open up your world open up your mind and I know you want to go international I hope that comes true for you Good good and please before we sign out before I sign out the show Please let the viewers know your social media handles in case they need to talk to you Okay, my social media platforms on Facebook Macedan Creation's go like the page on IG Creation's and also Massey underscore G Duncan. 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