 Thanks for joining us here in Geneva for the AI for Good Global Summit 2019 my next guest is Harry claw He's chief executive officer of beyond imagination a company that uses avatars and Robotics to help solve some of the world's most pressing problems. Basically all about helping deliver the UN SDGs by using technology Yes, I think there's enough capital enough intelligence and enough equipment in the world to solve those problems The issue is moving people around fast enough So this technology in part could help solve most of those problems by bringing the talent where it's needed instantly So instead of taking say a day or more to travel from Los Angeles to the heart of Africa How about four minutes and instead of just bringing one doctor? How would I put a robotic avatar there and it could be every doctor every engineer every teacher? Basically everyone you need when you need them Okay, so you're here to chair a panel on the use of robotics for good What's your key message then so my my key message in that panel is is that instead of thinking of robotics as something that it is Driven by AI it should be a partnership between humans and AI for the robotics now in our case We there is AI, but it never makes any of the decisions you do and in other cases a lot of people program AI to operate the robot But part of the message for me is make sure that whatever you're doing. It's not only doing it for good People shouldn't be thinking about a on robotics to replace humans They should be thinking of them as a tool to enhance and better humanity At the moment they are debased and the fact that a lot of the most innovative technologies We are developing today and robotics in particular comes from those large tech groups based in the US For instance, not just but in China as well, of course, but how can we ensure that technology? Is basically a tool for inclusion and it's not just that they're hands up those large tech groups for instance So people in the most developed countries so It's funny you asked that question. So in part while I'm running beyond imagination one of the first things I did was create The avatar XPRIZE which literally now has 70 teams around the world from almost every Like part of the world To develop robotic technologies in this case to fulfill part of my dream, which is robotic avatars But at the same time those companies Will that don't win? Will continue to spin out so in a way it's to to help all those other countries develop robotics You have a very interesting personal journey. Haven't you? You were born you explained to me earlier with your legs facing it backwards So tell us a bit more about that and how technology has helped you and was a real guiding principle Throughout your life to help your own existence, but that of others as well So for me in fact the reason I have this position is when I was born my legs were 210 degrees backwards both of them and Actually the doctors the experts all said that's the way it would always be So it was actually through my my mom working with me to physically just correct that So as I was growing up I always imagined what would it be like if if you could have an alternative body and Act through it, which is what's led me to this point for beyond imagination But also led me on a journey because the tech didn't exist When I was a kid in my 10 on my 20s even in my 30s So in part I've been involved in various technologies from the International Space University To being in the founding team with Peter for the XPRIZE to being in the Falling team for for Singularity University And my entire life has been in terms of advancing my knowledge of technology as well as storytelling Because if you can't tell a good story, then you're not going to be reaching the public and Everything becomes a black box and talking of storytelling. You're also sharing a panel on science fiction, aren't you? So what would it be all about? Right, so that's the flip side. I've always taken a Leonardo da Vinci approach to life So I think you should develop the right side and left side of your brain. So that panel I'm bringing in a mix of Futurists and science fiction writers and Philip the creator of Second Life First have a discussion about AI and robotics What we're calling the the good the bad and the beautiful And to discuss in the future How to prevent the bad and the way you do it is by anticipating it So how important is it for you then to go to a platform like the AI for good global summit to meet other Like-minded people. So I think it's critical actually for people like me for artists to come for people who aren't just an AI programmer you know politicians leaders so that Again, it doesn't become a black box my biggest concern and the reason in fact I'm doing this panel is also because of Ethics and morals and the decisions that need to be made so that Who is controlling us? Is it a bunch of programmers like in Czechoslovakia or or Silicon Valley? Because shouldn't it be that the leaders And ourselves who are making these decisions? Okay, Harry Claude. Thank you very much. Thank you