 A very good morning to you. What a fantastic Thursday it is today. This is Power Talk. My name is Ram Agucco. It's a pleasure being with you today. I hope that you're well and you're fine and you're healthy on this particular Thursday morning. Of course, we value your feedback. Let us know where you are watching us from. We are coming to you live from the broadcasting house here in Nairobi, Kenya. We are also streaming live through our site. That's at www.kabc.co.ke4 slash y254. And of course, the hashtag is Power Talk Show at Ram Agucco and at Y254 Channel. Today, let's talk about comedy in Kenya. We would like to talk about comedians. And of course, I know that somebody watching us today and you'd like to get into the world of stand-up comedy. You've seen them on your screens. You've seen them perform and you wonder, how can I do this? And of course, for many Kenyans, laughter is our medicine. After you've gone through a whole hard day's work and you come back home, all you want to do is to just chill and just have something that can soothe you. Laughter can be one particular medicine that, you know, has helped many. The art of Kenyan comedy is what we want to talk about. The state of Kenyan comedy is what we want to talk about. You've seen our press and posters today. And of course, today, to help us in this particular conversation, I am with Mutu Michi. Zandei, yes. Zandei. Mutu Michi, Zandei, yes. Yeah. I always forget that. Mutu Michi, Zandei, yes. Zandei, yes. Gozarawa. Gozarawa, nashkuru mung. Zandei. We're still preaching. Tuna pumwa. We were supposed to be joined by a smart joker, Amesama Akunjiani, Aki Wasili Pia. He was just a journalist in this particular conversation. But, of course, let us know what you think about the state of Kenyan comedy. What do you think about our comedians? Are they getting the support they need? Do they have that particular, you know, growth that they are seeing? We have seen, when we talk about comedy, what do you think about it? Shiasa. Shiasa. So, you know, Michi, if you're going to talk about comedy, what is it like? What's your name? Mungu, I'm from Ungosa. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I don't know. I know that. When we were younger, we had fissions. And, when we were younger, we had a wedding. And, now, we have fissions. And, now, the wedding is on the wedding. The wedding is on the wedding. If you weren't going to talk about comedy in Kwanjia Khani, Thank you so much for coming my brother. Thank you. How was it being? It's a good going. We are doing great now. You are doing great? Yeah, very great. I want to say because we are not doing it in a Haji story. Yes. We are not doing it in a Haji story. We are not doing it in a Haji story. We are not doing it in a Haji story. We are not doing it in a Haji story. We are not doing it in a Haji story. Why? Because we are not doing it in a Haji story. Yes, we are not doing it in a Haji story. We want to know about your story. For many, they just see you and they think that you are just some guy who just wants to make money. But they don't know your story. I believe I believe I believe Okay, first forward, Basi. Okay, first forward. Primary. Yes. And I was a very good noise maker. Times 100. I am great and perfect. I am great and perfect. I am great and perfect. I was in drama club. From class, though you're performing average, you're still going to have drama school. I'm a good drama. So I'm still going to go to school. Do you have a drama club? No. I'm a scout from the drama club. I was a scout. Do you have a drama school? She does actually act. I love her. You know, we're just playing a drama with K'Lelen. No, we're just doing it so. She acts. So she has pro-rolls and I would be the best. So if she could do something, then her skill would be really good. She can perform and be the best. I like her. But I'll follow her. Ha ha ha ha We did a drama festival. We had a drama club. Yes, we had a drama club. We did a drama show. I loved it. I loved it, we had school chanting. We went and ate and then went to school. Did you go out to school? No. You could go out and sing. We could go and dance. You were a fan. There is a word of looking for in the house. support battalion. Support battalion, exactly. Support battalion, exactly. So, the drama and the things you remember, there are no things Yes, there are people in class who are PE, students who are after, they say, ah, year 20 PE. They have three friends, Gilbert and Engino, DCC, and Pumbel. Are they still alive? They are alive right now. I can't trust them. I can't, Yes. People forget each other after primary. But there are so many that I've met, and I have a book about it. Yes. Now, since you're a comedian, because you're a drama, you don't act. Since you're a comedian, which stage do you want to go to? I went to high school when I was acting. When I was acting, I concentrated on football. I am who I wanted to be in life, and God can say this. Oh, this which you wanted to be? It was either I became an actor or a footballer. Those two things. And football, what happened to football? I still play football. When I was in Jibamba, we had a comedian, he was a Churchill, he was a Moldy, he was a C.C. He was also a Bongo FC, coming very soon to honour. Ah. So, I used to play football in the industry. But it's part of them, you know. Number nine? I was number seven. Number nine. Number seven is number nine. Number nine, you were number eight. Yes, sir. Let me ask you what is the primary school? That is, Dagufulli Muslim Primary School. Daguuli Muslim Primary School. Daguuli Muslim Primary School. Daguuli Muslim Primary School. Daguuli Muslim Primary School. Order Dago. Hey, Mr. Kuranja, Mr. Kamau, I am Vengime, Mr. Amisi. I play with Mr. Kamau, I'm a mathematician and I'm a science. I play with science. This is what Mr. Kamau does. He plays with a hand. What is your favorite food? My favorite food is food called Kodrama. I don't eat anything that's not a food. But if I eat food on and off, I eat food that's not a food. But if I eat food on and off, I can concentrate on food. After high school, I start finding life. What did you learn in high school? I learned Chinese boys' high school. I know it. I learned a lot. They were the first bonus. Founders. Founders? Yes. You know the metosellas. They were the oldest. Metosellas. I was born in Metosella. What was the name of the metosella? I was born there. I was born with the oldest guy. You were born in Ketinas? Yes. I was born in Metosella. Oh, you were born in Metosella? Yes, I was born in 1996. I participated in the music. I have participated in the music. I love that. I met history, I love that. You were born in Metosella? No. I was born there. I was born in Kuwitwa and Kujiita. I lived in Sattakha but I never lived there. I was born there. What's your name? My name is Jelewa. My name is Mambosia. Do you live in China? Yes. Mono. Mono, the first monos of China's poetry. Do you live in the foot of a footer? Yes. Do you have any drama? I don't have any drama. Do you have any children? I don't have any children. No, I'm interested. I don't have any drama. So I have a little child that lives in a footer. Every child has been a footer. The likes of my children means they know that I'm old. So many have concentrated on footers. So I have no children in high school. Decent is my own child. My children say I'm only 2001 years old. I have children. What will make your life better? I was in high school when I was in 4th grade. My mother was in 4th grade. I was with Juliza. What do I want to be when I'm in 5th grade? You were with Juliza? Me, it was two things. You were acting? Football. Nothing else. You were an engineer. You were an astronaut. After school, you were with Juliza. I was with Juliza. I was with Juliza. I was with Ani. I was with Akta. I was with Akmedia. I wrote a prescription. I was with Fatihanga. I was with Ani. I was piloting. I was with Akta. I was with Ani. Come on, go ahead. I was with Ani. When I was in high school, I studied Tushon in China's police. Chinese boys. So to make us a intuition then, you know, you're making fun of a teacher. I believe I will. I can make a lot of people, and I believe in me. Yes. Then the teacher is watching from, so that one a checker. So they were laughing at me. Do you know? I'm a face who can go come long. Okay. Okay. Okay. To one, up here, I'm a two. I'm a two. Yeah, I'm a two. I told you I'm a state chairman in western region, I told you. Yeah. I told you I'm a two. I'm a two. I'm a two. I'm a two. Smart joke? Yes. I told you I'm a chairman. Huh? Who's the chairman of western? Ladies and gentlemen, joining us in studio. Let me see his smart joke about this. Who are you? I told you it has to consult. We are part of the board, I'm a board member. Who's your chairman? Yes. I'm the chairman and I'm the chairman. Yes, on behalf of western. It's an entire hospital. It's because you're a politician, who's going to be the chairman. I'm the chairman. I'm the chairman. You can say anything, but I'm the chairman. I'm the chairman. You can say anything. I'm the chairman. Yes. I am sorry that you were late. Okay, alright our small講er, thank you for coming my brother. I am sorry for coming brother. Because of what? Ask from someone else. Ask something from someone. Ask him. Ask the dog. Ask for something from schoolful. Anything from school questions. Go ask for anything qualifies up till now. So I ask. I think I'm out. I think I'm out. So after you're jammed, if I'm not picking up, I'll go to Petro Station. Irami, you're very well. In my case, I'm to Michi. I'm the one that's giving the comedy. Who's the one that's giving it? It's the one that's giving it. Officially, I'm giving it to... Carnival Churchill Show. Officially. Officially? Before you were an official? Before I was an official, I used to dance in a church. I used to compose short songs, poems, and songs. I used to check what I was doing instead of laughing. I used to secure the content. Before I was an official, I used to pass the message. But instead of checking what I was doing, I used to secure the content. So that was me. I used to dance in a church. It was five years ago. I think it was in Gishu County. I danced in a church. It was, I think, 1992-1993. I used to dance in a church. But then, the money was gone. So I went home. I went to Switzerland. I went to Sucary. I went to Ungar. I was 15 years old. So I remember your incident. I was to be who I am. A comedian? The same way he has said it. Yes, yes, yes. By the way, when I went to the church, there was a woman from the... It was Congregants. Yes, yes. Yeah, Congregants. Yes. I was five years old. Yes. She was my father. She motivated me. When I was in school, if this was the same class, come out on the board class, come to our school, I did a new class. It was very much, a lot of things. You gave it to me. Yes, yes, it was a lot. Yes. Okay. I've lost my way. Yes. Yes. As a child. Yes, yes, yes. A lot. Yes, I was a child. Yes. I was a child. Oh, it's a boy who grew up on the rampage. No, it's a girl. Okay, I was just two years old. So, where were you when you were in primary school? Yeah, I was in 5th grade. Because when I was in 5th grade, it was about my mother. When you were in 5th grade? My mother, she was a tanking mom. She said she was from Kumbuka. I love people who are comedians. They are very good. When I was in 5th grade, I was a pilot doctor. I was an actor. You were a football player. I was a football player. I grew up in a small town. I was a football player. I was born in Moka. And I was born in Kala. I'm a football player. I was born in AKA, AirBtBM, WBSJ. I was against bad things so brandy-micle, the brilliant, balloonair, the smart joke. So I was a tank twister. Is it better than that? When I was in school, I was always more than 2 years old. Is it better? I was against bad things so brandy-micle, the brilliant, the smart joke. It's not about the singles. It's about the triple. It's about the abbreviation. Okay. Herabit B.M.Double B.S.J. Hey, this is the paper, it's a paper. You can't put it in the paper. You can't put it in the paper. You can't put it in the paper. I can't put it in the paper. I'm not going to put it in the paper. You can't put it in the paper. It's a paper. I'm going to put it in. It's a smart joke. Smart joke. At what point is it being put in the paper? It's because people used to have problems with paper. Is it introduced because stage is not always ready. As you say. I use the double tree. Imagine MC and track is introduced. I'm going to do it. Oh what is the name of this thing I was a kid, I was a smart joker. Where is him born? Short and sweet. He was in primary school, high school, he was in school. I was in school, I was in school. After nursery to class 3, between class 3 to nursery, I started to study. When I was in high school, I was in high school. I was in high school, I was in high school. After high school, I was in top 5. I used to perform very well. Then from nursery to class 3, I went back to class 6. When I was in high school, I used to copy a lot. I used to copy and paste, yes. When I was in high school, I used to copy. Now, when I repeat class 6, once, I repeat it once. Then there is a teacher. She is a child, she is a guardian. She went to English to do mock exam. You're in class 8? Yes, I'm in class 7. I'm in class 8. So, I was very careful when I was in the class 8, I was very careful when I was in the class 8, after that talk, I was very careful when I was in the class 8, I changed. I said I will never copy anyone in life. I will be coming up with my own original and authentic things. If I fail, let me go with it. And I have never copied anyone in my college. I normally come up with an answer, and fix it, and pass it. When you break through, do you see yourself as a comedian? Do you see yourself as a breakthrough? From this point on, how do you see yourself as a comedian? Okay. I did a break through in 2013, in March. At that time, I was in the audition, in 2010, when I formed Creative Generation as a youth group. At that time, I was on TV. I think the time was ripe. I was on TV for a long time. You were on TV? Yes. So, I was on TV. At that time, I was on TV for a long time. You know what he used to do? This is Vitu Zaki, I was on TV. I was in a church. I was in a church, I was wearing a suit, I was wearing a suit, I was on TV. I was wearing a suit, I wore a suit with a long, long story, See, you can't be a cameraman. The actors had never seen you on TV. You just do something. You are at TV for getting it. You were on TV, immediately. You well the whole Creative Generation, almost six of us. So you were in from-skit, it got creative. And people believed that you could competed. But by then I'll stop everything and I'll have the opportunity to act and record and I'll be able to use the TV as a module and put it there. And it came. Ah, I need to motivate. Ah, that is nice. Opportunity comes once. You need to be sure of it and pick it and run with it. Do you know what I'm saying? Ah, it's ready. See, it's not going to end like this. So that's the thing that motivated us. So there's something we can do. So then there was an event called... Smart it was an event in the USA. Nationally. So Churchill was to come in the finals as a mentor in Nakur. So it was a special event. Churchill as a sport. So we became number one in Nairobi region for comedy. We were three. Then Nakur was to represent Nairobi. By then I was in the provinces. So Nairobi provinces didn't have to represent comedy. Churchill was to make finals. We became number three. Kisumu was number one in Mombasa then CC. But since we got number two EV, so it was kind of unique. So your time Churchill was in the 20s? In the 20s? In January. So you were limited to Churchill by the time you came back? To come back, then I was told that I was going to be a machine. I was going to be a divine. I was going to be a shamer. So I went to church and I was a twist. So I was told that it was a normal Christian song. So I was told that I was going to be a shamer. I will look for it. It is a normal song. Sbazzella came out and tried to joke me. So I was told that I was going to be a shamer. So I was excited. I was talking about the part. So I was going to be a shamer. So I was told that I was going to be a shamer. But it actually is a Christian song? Yes, exactly. Exactly. It's a song. Yes. You sent this to school? Yes. I was laughing at my husband. He was laughing at his husband. He was laughing at his husband. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I know that you're a good guy. I'm a good guy. I'm a good hair. I'm a good guy. I am a good guy. I am Vamos al President. I am a good guy. I love all arts. I am a good guy. I didn't know anything about it. I am a good guy. I love all arts. I am a good guy. I am a good guy. So, I was there. I was in the rehearsal room. I was sitting there. You were the only one who was in the audience. No, the audience was the only one. Every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So, I met a lot of youths. Almost 100 and something. There were two auditions. So, it was first come, first serve. Your uniqueness is what we'll sell you and the content you have. So, it was the first time I was in the rehearsal room. I was in the rehearsal room. It was the first time I was in the list. I was the director of Terrence Creative. The panelist. So, the panelist was Terrence Creative and the co-pallie. Yes. Terrence, Victor Behr. There were almost six of them. They were Milichebi, Wifiake. Almost six of them. And in front of them, you were uniqueness. It was all about talent. Nothing else. So, he said, I'm your brother. I just met him. He had an opportunity. But the first week, I took a rehearsal. So, Terrence was the director. Over on the way to behr. Victor Behr was not in. He said, when is the day? So, he said, when is the day? So, I used to fear Victor Behr. Because his wife and I said, when is the day? He said, when is the day? No, his wife and I said, people recruit people to hate people. Okay. I said, I recruit people to hate people. Not because I'm a cusser. I make you look bad. I said, I'm not a cusser. I'm a cusser. I'm a cusser. So, I used to hear from him, he was a cusser. He was a cusser. But that guy is strict. With talent. He knows what he wants. He knows what he wants. He jokes, he works. He says, acting is work. That's work. He was a cusser. He was a cusser. He was a cusser. He was a cusser. He knew what he wants. He was a cusser. He was a cusser. He was working. He had a lot of comedy. He had a lot of content. He had courage. He said, I'm going to perform comedy before an audience. An audience which, in my opinion, will mobilize resources. there like a piece of a tree, you would find you would come for auditions when your member is a job, he called all of us, it's either you are doing comedy or you are in school learning or you are working where you are working because comedy is work. Yes. There are other issues here, known as smart joke has dedicated his time of performing in a job, he has even invested in a job. Do you think comedy is the real balance? Yes. How is it balanced? It is balanced so that you can learn fast. When you are being hit with the reality that it is happening, it's important. But when you go sit down, you will realize that there is a meaning to what you say. What was your breakthrough? I was in a passive V2 event. I was in a hospital when I was 6 years old. I was in my second born. I was with Manuela Halumba. I was a nurse. She was a dog for 4 years. So I met a receptionist. She looked at me. She looked at me and said, I'm young. She said, I'm a nurse. I'm a nurse. I'm a nurse. I said, I'm a nurse. I said, thank you God. Thank you God. I said, why? Why are you thanking God? At the same time you are crying and you are laughing. She said, are you smart joker? I said, yes, I am smart joker. The other day I said, thank God. I sat there and cried. I cried. I was a nurse. I was a nurse. I was a nurse. From there, I had a breakthrough. I was in V2. V2. There's a luxury in me to use that. So your experience here, the way this is. It means someone can meet Matijoka and be a monk. Thank you. Now use Matijoka and divert from detrimental, something poisonous, something harmful, as Mame Kwanjiye lives outside. Meaning, by seeing you, coconut root, you can be a monk. Yes. Thank you. Yes. So my experience here is that to elevate someone, a grow at Anishinde, I feel that is my breakthrough. Because for me, that is why God created me. Yes. And you became a hit. Yes. You were born in Sasaiyo. You were born in 2013. I was among the first comedians to relaunch Churchill Live 2, Churchill Show. In fact, I was a hit on Bila TV. I went there, we performed. Here episode, I was the talk of the town, up in Nairobi. You were a hit on Bila TV. Yes. People used to say, I was a hit on Bila TV. I was a hit on Bila TV. I was a hit on Bila TV. I was a hit on Bila TV. I was a hit on Bila TV. I was a hit on Bila TV. So, who won your time? Who won your money when you were a hit? Then you were on TV in 2013. I used to do jokes about I used to go to school. He was a hit on TV. I used to talk. I was hit on TV. He was a hit on TV. He is good at that. I used to eat. I was at the store, where he would change the way they prepared. In the bar? Yes it is. But it is at the bar. Because when they changed the way they prepared, He would never come back again. It's like a chase, you know. And what's the difference between you two? What's the difference? What's the difference? What's the difference? What's the difference? But since we are two families, we have to take care of each other. We have to take care of each other. We have to organize and change the way we cook. That's what we do. That is a myth. Ah, it's a myth. I get it, I get it. And I think it is because of the position of the parents. They are very close to each other. They are very close. They are very close. They are very close. That's a very interesting myth. I will research on that. It's a myth. It's a myth. It's a myth. It's a myth. It's a myth. The first origin of the funding and the communities is? Yes. Is that before you starting to become a father? Because that's the reason why he dreams of being a handsome father. So Labda, it is another way of preventing and retaining that chicken When did you start using the name Mutumishi? At the time we went there on such a show. I was in front of Tantu for three years now, I have eaten bishop with the different types of curry. I decided to eat this curry in a different size. Was it also a bishop? Yes, a curry and a pasta, and also a bishop, it was a bishop with a different type of curry. How long ago? We had a bishop for so long that we needed to join two. So it was easy decision making it out. Then, when they're up, they say, e'gina kizungu, it a fukiania kisuaile, t'otu ka nga nga nga nga, e'i, mutumishi, mutungaji, e'i, unajiwa, e'zo ma pasta in suuaile, t'u li nga nga nga, t'otu ka nga nga, t'otu ka nga nga, t'u mai fukiria, labda mutungaji, mutumishi, a ka nga, e'i, e'i, e'o. So when you go on stage, e'i ta'u me'i me'i me'i mutumishi, Put your baby on so that he does eat, Then they push it out. Okay. And that's how, next time, So it's the end of our story that gave us a bit of an idea? A bit of an idea. I want to pointB I want to find the where we started달, where we started on the third tone. True. But I'm not creativegroup Thats the name, I went with it. So you also need this stuff to explain That thing that is upper- tej否 tenderanz, You see this thing here? on the TV? Ye, it has been on the TV That thing you mentioned is the State of Kenyan Comedy. Yes, in the United States. You see these things when we barrier I remember seeing that, I remember seeing that at some point Even that is what will get us online online yes so that is how it came out okay and also what we were doing in more Christian jokes you know jokes yes but none I babble it's a Christian thing Sunday yes or Sunday mom is simply saying thank you God thank you Lord hi yes let me say 80% of my life in comedy it has been a failure 80% 80 yes it has been a failure I have performed on stage severely be like the same to these guys no you call it you call it and it's so interesting by the way yes and that is what makes me to miss you and smart joke people will never know did you know that mistakes problems I have gone through a lot ever don't say this say this this is our brand please don't say this don't mention this when you are mentioning our brand don't mix this brand in this yeah comedy is all about freedom and concentration yes they don't they don't yes those are the moments you'll never see on TV for example me you can't share what I'm having being a celebrity yes I'm a celebrity I can't share to people I can't tell people my problems now let me kind confine it with myself season of it is not funny because now you go on stage you have a content the panelist in a mixed reaction but you need to make people laugh laugh yes it happens and that is the most unique way to relive yes you make it funny and then the other thing you know anything we say people believe it's all right I want us to take a short break we want to take a short break we'll be back in a bit but keep engaging with us if you have any questions head over to our facebook page ask those questions to our all right welcome back this is a power talk and of course it is all about the state of yes that is the state of also getting comments on our facebook page let me just sample a few of what you guys are saying on our facebook platform on this particular Thursday morning all right and now Vicky and I say I'm 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replacing him for men's conference yes we had agreed so we agree you had agreed to do after Japan elections but no see that's my friend we don't consult others we decide it and leadership is taken is taken you take it and move what I couldn't run a cup at here no we need to repair it because we need to fit you should yeah you should yeah you have good shoes I'd roll your ways if you fit you should mutua camera come on as a zoom in on adiant you mutua feet you plan your own goes be a size matters as a so you so you have the right foot for leadership and you know people who are funny are not comedians yes oh yes I can be a comedian you can't but you know that but you're lying let's continue with this but we'll have a conversation about encourage you to let us know where you're watching us from the hashtag explore talk show if for all you have questions for our comedians and we have a smart joker pia koapa ask them the questions that you have for them how they started we are hearing their story because this is a state of Kenyan comedy let's get off to the next issue about uh to talk to me about now you're on stage it's not about work bad days at work yeah so it's not about the audience uh and their mood and their state sometimes you are not yourself on stage sometimes because you're not a hindrance life at the same time and this is the only particular time yes freely without anybody judging you because of what they know you off love funny ice cream funny yes that is the only time when I was a pig and do you know what I could judge you need to release that energy yes one one new people checker because sometimes they are bad they may always say they're bad days at work yes yes uh two because when you already go on stage directors will be approved content yeah already it is approved well then the stage one are you a killer kid from the same exactly it is approved that's why we're performing word for word word for it's not exactly word but content generally what you're going to talk about okay okay because it's obvious you're spontaneous you know because it's original it's original in a spontaneity in a matter they don't have issues with that because they know there's that freedom mm-hmm sometimes we take a break sweet you go there week. He or she does not look at me. Kona Kuna the some of this is that are good. Yes. One of that or a person. Yes. So they do. They do. One or two persons are not good. One is not encouraged. Yes. We've met so many. So many. Yes. I said, ah, that content you guys are. Yes. You guys are not. Yes. Appreciation. Yes. It happens. Yes. He is not being encouraged. So those things. Yes. So many times. Not able to. Yes. He is a giant TV. Yes. It is free. All the time. It is for editing. If it is free. Yes. It's for editing. Yes. So you are not encouraged. Yes. You are not encouraged. Yes. You just want to think about it. TV has a ratio of 2 to 1. You have to take a stage to perform. There are some comedies that are not good. But when you take a stage, you have to see what's going on. What? You have to take, for example, a loan. And you have to pay for it. You have to say hi. You have to pay for it. It's a financial crisis for comedians. I think it's a trend in social media. What's the reason? It's a personal issue. Some people are living their lives. The reason is that there are a lot of comedians. They are not able to take a stage. What's your expectation for comedians? Some people say that it's being shared around. Let's make money to support this creative. To support who you are, who you are. One reason I would say is just because you are on TV. There are so many people who want to watch TV and share. And they are not on TV. They are stuck. Some people say, Ram, your health is here. But today, if you don't take a stage, it eats you up. What will you do if you are drained to the latter? You will call upon friends. It's just that we are on TV. You expect the whole bank is mine. But there is life. I don't live smart jokers. I know him well. We don't live by expectations. I am a farmer. Before I was born, I used to work in a farm. I used to work in a farm. You used to work in a farm? Yes. But there are times. There are times you work in a farm. Exactly. My father used to work in a farm. I was born there. I had a problem with my health. But when I was a fan, I had a problem. You are talking about health issues. You are talking about health issues. Health issues are related to the death of God. Exactly. Whether you are insured or not, it is related to the death of God. There is a fan of mine. I was told that my sister was a celebrity. I followed her. I was a part of the family. I was lucky to have a driver. I was told that I was a joker. I was told that my sister was the only one with a problem. I published the problem. I didn't know about that. I had a child. He was innocent. When I was a child, I was told that my story is related to the death of God. I went there with a camera. I recorded the story and I packaged it. I was told that my story was related to the death of God. My sister was the only one who is innocent. When it gets to my sister... Then the church isauthorized as�� And it will be a trend. I normally bring my kids for企業. And even if a friend doesn't come, she will show it to her party. There is this social expectation. Now there is TV. Now one thing... Now there is Churchill. Being in Churchill, it's equal in TV. Like Why Too Far For You, there are a lot of programs. Each with different, you know. But it's just that being in a dam, it doesn't matter. You see, it doesn't matter. There is a space to watch TV. There is a space to watch TV. There is a space to watch TV. It's a place for everyone. Really? And now... To be able to watch TV... Don't forget to post it on Instagram or Facebook. Look for space to participate. The Bible says your talent will make you... Diamond King's? I was waiting for the next day, and I was waiting for the next day. So I was expecting... When we performed for the president, Mashu Jad, my house was in Vunjo. It was in Vunjo? Exactly. After you performed Mashu Jad? I didn't think I was going to perform. My house was in Vunjo. I think after that my house was in Vunjo. I didn't know why. You didn't know? I didn't know how to perform. When I studied and performed, my house was in Vunjo. So you came back home and stayed in Vunjo? I stayed in Vunjo after two days, because I was still on transit. I was on the show. So there was a time when my house was in Vunjo. That's when I went to Kenza, Kuwait to visit. There was a time when my house was in Tessa, I was in Onesha, I was in Fanesha. Yes. So, see what it was like in your life. See what it was like in our expectations. Some people will leave easy. Yes. It's easy on us. It's just like when I was a kid, I produced a camera person who had a job. And I always appreciate these technical guys, because they do a lot of work in both areas of entertainment. Because I don't know how to get out to Kosawa. Yes. So, I always say, while I was in Onesha, you are being judged according to how you live. Yes. Which is not right. It's not right. In the beginning of the year, we were living in the same house as in Binhadamo. We were working. This is our office. This is my office. We don't have to... We don't have to put on our costumes. We have to put on our costumes. Because, after here, we are still alive. We are still alive. We are still alive. Yes. We are still alive. We are still alive. Yes. We are still alive. We are still alive. Yes. Sometimes, we go to the government, we are still alive. Q-man? Gojya I learn from the people Sometimes I learn from them Do you learn from them? The same way to any other person Let me go to Facebook Oliver Oli Bobo He's watching from Lugari He's a go-to He's a joker I have a request for him Requesting him to feature in a project A song Sunday Mwami A question A question to them To the both of you What is their response to these claims Normally outside here That Churchill show comedians are never paid well Let me start on that To me Churchill is my wife She's my wife She's my wife She's my wife Ever since I started performing there To date Churchill is my wife She's my wife This has been an issue in Otomo Gasana No, Matunda Matunda is my wife When I was on TV Nobody was there for me Even this industry to where I am today Gracia Godi was there Even Mr. Zewangu was there I used to be there I said it's fair I had auditions So Churchill said I was there I was there I was there I was there I love what I'm doing I was there I was there I was there I was there I was there I'm not talking on behalf of smart joker I'm not talking on behalf of Mchungaji I'm talking on behalf of Mchunga I love Churchill I love my wife I'm not talking on behalf of it I'm not talking on behalf of my wife I love my wife I love this one It's all my fault All my fault I'm meant to be a saint Because that platform The one it's called That's to end auditions who had more than 100 people, 40, 60, 70. But what happened? Upcoming comedians, when they were late on the board, they said, church, it's bad for me to retain. Exactly. Bad for me to retain. Meaning, this guy, his church is supporting people. Yes. He's giving people a platform, church is live, church is raw, church is show. Yes, and we... So many other things outside there, apart from that show, he's saying, that's why he's giving people a platform. Yes. He's connected us to different platforms, he's giving people a show. He talks on behalf, he comes when we are... Some of us, he doesn't do private things. Yes. He doesn't do private things, he doesn't do private things. He's telling people, that's why he's giving people a platform, that's why he's giving people a platform. Yes. My brother, you saw my story, the journey series, that was on TV. Yes. He worked. Yes. You heard me telling people that I bought my mother land, because she took her piece of land, she said she was a farmer. So, when I was in church, I saw a piece of land, an acre, she said, I was a panda, she told me, she was going to school, she was going to school, she was going to school, she was going to school, she was going to school, I was going to church, I was going to go to the top. Because I'm from a family, there's a show in Nigeria, like Chachil's show. That guy tells you, this platform is mine. Chachil has sold for this platform for over 20 years, that I make. Yeah. This is my house, where I live, where I live, where I live in Nigeria, that's my house. So, that guy in Nigeria tells you, he's going to perform, he's here, I'm going to talk. Don't ask me for any coin. And this platform, I'm going to go to the basket. What they're doing outside, they're giving me the coin. And I'm going to go, and I'm going to a gig, Chachil is never there, I'm going to go to the mall. I'm going to perform, I'm going to talk to you. I'm going to blog, I'm going to talk to you. I'm going to say, and you know, as a parent, you get to have success with your children. Yes. When you go to the bomb, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of people, people who are on the right, because there's a lot of people, yes. So the consequences are that you are the one who made the mistake. See Churchill, you just dug Churchill because he is given as the platform. Yes, and also, there is a bit of scriptural learning and there is a talent, multiplication of a talent when you are given. Yes, exactly. Exactly. But he is good. No, he is good. He is good, he is good. I am sure. Those talents that you have done. Five talents, two talents, four talents. Yes, yes. Thanks. Churchill's show platform is called Cooper Talanter. Cooper Talanter? Cooper. Churchill has given talent to Cooper. Right. Now wherever you go, you have to tell people in TV who are here to watch from September. If they are not in the TV, touch them with the MC. And you have to touch them with the MC. Referrals. Referrals from these MCs, you got there, you got there. But they are not really there. They are not in the MC. What you do is what you are given. This guy, he's a media, and you just said you were loved? He's a media, Zittek University. Zittek University? Because of my talent they gave me a scholarship. Wow, if I wasn't known because of such a thing and you hang up your university or maybe a scholarship, what? Yes, so because of Churchill a part of scholarship to take in the vast community sing a part. Yes So you do not either multiplication of talent. My brother called Manya Kisumu's finest. He's a comedian Him and mutu Michi do when you are in a vote motivate Pia me mini kind of summer one a barry true Kenyamass But I'm a little soon But we're gonna certificate. Yes, and do you know what? Do you know what? I made you so mention me me money. I'm a deliver school fees. Yes Mpaka namalizia me me money bill a kusumbua mama exactly Let me ask you this question. Yes, there are many comedians when you say easy to know or not Just giving you general thoughts about it not to talk about any specific one. Yes I'm gonna talk a comedy and I guess he asked what are your thoughts in regards to that also because as a To not change Are we are we going to lose them enough our stick to comedy enough at which I'm going to see us on In terms of we give you know what I would say on that I'm not at you are growing you think you have a vision You only always need something to propel you so that it attracts other visions I was in politics in 2013 Even if you don't want to talk about comedy You know Even me now That I being whatever you are will not be in this media for what I would you want to make a lot of them Yeah, there are things you want to have your own consultant company, you know doing other things Like now I have a production house I want to be like Churchill or more than him whereby I sit back relax and watch talents grow Yes, so I Do not you think you are power to fight for which I was given a platform to raise talents for free Isn't he gone? Isn't he gone To send To miss a production Platform Yes, if it were not because of such a show single be sure get Is only of it to Namibia what will go in this so any vision It's cool modern if I need you I'll have a production house Okay, but you want to do something else and so on and so Me me not as I might be the same way. I'm a similar linear Do me a Vongosi? Yes, both one as he has a Lineage yet we are wide open to kabushi and gala So can I keep working now grow a kid tonight a cool guy and Danny Lera a clan Why not grow even right now? No, I don't do one as he has a good As long as you need space for others to grow. And also you need space for others to grow. That's not the case. It's all about to come where we come a viewer. It's about knowledge in a way that any event that you decide to do, you will be able to define it. It's about growth. It's about growth. I'm Nicholas Wessonga. I'm Nicholas Kutoka Busebwabo. Busebwabo. Busebwabo. Watching live. Now Lisa Smart Joker. Yes. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. Amen. Thank you so much. I'm not forcing. I love what you say. I'm not forcing. Comedy is also work. I want to be an actor. First of all, I would appreciate the government so much. Like I said, me and my parents were there in support. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing. I'm not forcing.