 All right, so we're gonna go ahead and open up tonight's meeting. It is Monday, August 1st. And we're here at the John Howe meeting room at this 79th School Street. More town select board. And so we'll open tonight with public comment. And Chris, is that you? We're dead. Yes, I'm here for public comment. Thank you so much. All right, so let's go ahead and start on the left with Chris. So Chris Stevenson, I'm on the 20th Farm Road. I'm on a red committee chair, just for those who don't know me, and we made a motion recently at our meeting, and I wanted to make sure that there's support to, in conjunction with the Morfess committee and the school to remove five chunks of fence in front of the pavilion to allow for better traffic flow. You know, for Morfess reason, I was going to put the band in there, I'm a pathetic boss. And further to fix the fence, we had either an accident. I don't think there's going to be anything. I don't think there's going to be anything. All right. We have either an accident or vandalism on that gate next to the sign here. I mean, to me it looks like it caught on some of the motorcycle wheel, or who knows. It just looks like it hurt a person. It's not much damage, but the gate needs to be removed altogether or repaired. And then there's a few clips that have undone themselves. That's pretty minor. And further to remove the two spring hens that randomly stick out from the field that we've been to find anyone who wants to defend their existence. One is between the baseball diamond, back, cage, and pavilion. And then the other one right in front of the pavilion at the end of the fence, which won't help. I think it's a spring-led pump. Like, oh, I think it's as, well, I guess I learned half the story. I mean, it appeared to me to be fit from a spring of pie, and that was some sort of pump with water going. But I had heard from Greg Wagner that it was actually tied into the school. But it wasn't working, and it wouldn't be allowable anyway because of their ultra-pilot filtering system, which is things I know that much about. So the idea would be to get rid of those two spring hens, which I think we need to town support on, and then connect with the fence company to fix the gate. In our budget, in our non-existent budget that we're working with you guys on, we had earmarked $400 for this. And as I understand it, the school would split the cost, that's another $400, so that would be $300 to $800. I'm not sure the gate damaged if that's totally enough, but I certainly want to make sure we get your general support and I'm working to end the quote. Right, what do you think? Yeah, if you really think you know for sure before you take those out, that they don't belong to a Eugene or somebody as well. So spring, yeah. I mean, Greg was pretty confident in their history and their recent history. Like you're trying to get that in writing? Yeah, I would definitely check the future. Eugene right here. Yeah. Eugene Graham, right here at the school house. Yeah. I'm sure that he doesn't have, those aren't had as big of an overview. We'll be putting them back up. Okay, I can personally, I can either, that's fine. And the fence that you're talking, taking out, and that's something that will be out permanently, is that correct? Yes, so right, as you kind of go down the road and if there's things on the left, the fence randomly kind of ends defining the lower field essentially. So we would take five sections of it back, maybe they're 10 foot sections, I didn't measure them. Yeah. It brings you back just as much as the gate. Yeah, it gives you a section into, yeah, it's halfway into the gate, I'd say they're still a little bit, and actually it was also pointed out on Stefan that it would probably help with getting the climbing wall out there for more of us, because it's been a hassle for them to figure out how to get through some of the ditching, and it might even help with the men back site. So does it make sense then to come to the gate itself, rather than just have that piece jutting out, what does that use for? I think there's a couple things on that. Mandy was wanting to uphold the quality of the baseball diamond, and kids used the backstop, so she was talking more about that, but nobody knows why we got a bad rap for the ball field. And recently, I heard we did a nice investment in the diamond material, and it's grown in probably the progress. So I reached out to a couple's field actually to talk to them about demand for baseball fields, and explore what they might know, or maybe even make a partner, maybe they want to fix it up for us, because they have over glow, I have no idea. But that's a good idea, that's what we used to talk about. Once the backfields were brought up on the airport road, I think that they didn't really need this anymore. Please, that's how I understood it. So I think there's been discussion about sunsetting baseball together, or fixing it up, and my guess is it's as good as anyone else, it doesn't have any facts. It would be great to see if we could find people using it at baseball diamond, because it's happy. It's a nice feeling, yeah. So to circle back to your question, the more fans we remove, the more balls would roll into the river and pollinate our garden. All right, so I think the original suggestion started with five of those. We can always remove more if we discuss, because folks do play soccer, so we're sure we'll fix it. Yeah, they do, yeah. True. All right. Is that all you had for us, Chris? Yeah, I mean, I just want to share a case with you on it, but that's the really important one. I'm just engaged, I guess. I mean, is it something that we're locking or we're locking a little bit? Certainly during school time or school hours, it's supposed to be locked, because the idea is they don't want traffic, it makes sense, because all the kids are going back and forth. As a town, we've always wanted it locked in the evening because we'd have problems with vandalism or partying without picking up extra themselves. Does it always get locked? Probably not. And it'll step on or something, consciously does it, and it's what we had for a few days here and there. Key is accessible to everyone, because it is for a emergency, in case someone has to call them up on the trails or on the tennis courts, we've left that key. So, I mean, it's widely known that it's keeping the lock as keeping all those people out, basically. We're just regretting it being locked, right? Yeah. I haven't seen a lock in a long time, since we changed the lock, then it got a lock, and it got a lock. And another point was made to me, that this lock fills up with traffic, and we're starting to get more use here, so there's a benefit of having our rack traffic out of the school lock. Yeah, I think we're going to buy that. We have been asking for it on the screen. And the information that I got was more to do, again, with the kids during the school year, certainly during the summer, I don't know. Yeah, there was a sign in the, I don't know how much time I was going to say, in a gazebo, and then what do you call it, the entrance signage there that said that the playground, or that everything was closed from 7.30 to 2.30. So, we took that down, because that's not true. Right, so. Yeah, I'm going to talk to Mandy about anything. I move, part of the town forest plan that we're doing is working with the school of tight-identified classrooms and use that to put hunting boundary, classroom boundaries, so they don't keep moving classrooms on and off the trail. And then we should talk about, we'll talk about traffic, quarter relief patient of another bathroom that Mandy's interested in. And honestly, the kids should probably go to the playground to a different route than they would. Should be considered as well. Yeah, that's all good stuff. Thanks Chris, I know you guys are working on a lot of good things. Appreciate it, the garners look good. Looking for some more color comes up with them as well. Look, there's a lot of white out there. I was looking for some color. Oh, the wildflowers? Yes. You know what I'm saying? It's just buckwheat, and it's sort of just a cover crop to keep it from drying out. Got it. And if you look closely, especially if you go around the back, you'll see some wildflowers right in there. Nice, good. I think it's a roll of the dice to see, and some are planted in their roots, so those are going to leap in, and those are already seeding. So we'll roll the dice to see how awesome it looks. We can always do it in a year or two. I think it's a little slow here, and the one up there actually looks a lot better. I think it's nice to have a lot of bees around where I saw the other guy. Pretty good. Some depth. Let's go for tonight. So I'm back about the rental property on 100B that I'm concerned about. Last time I was in, I bought the story with no letter to the property owner saying that some action to be done. I spoke briefly to him, and my understanding is that no action. There's been very little movement on fixing any part of the property, and that the renters are now, at least some of them are putting their rent in escrow. So I guess I'm just here to bring this issue up again at the town. In terms of what, if anything, we can do to support renters, the health officer has spoken to me at one point about having a court order that gives deadlines for work needed to be done at certain times, which would be preferable to congevering the building, in which case everybody would have to move, and nobody wants that. So I'm here, I guess, to express my concern, as I did a few weeks ago, to us having this property and allowing this really health violations to continue in our town, and people to essentially be living in a slum, uninhabitable situation. And this letter was written from the health officer on July 1st, and the property owner had 15 days to physically respond, so it's going past that point. And... When did you speak with Dick? When did you speak with Dick last? Today. Today, okay. Because he has sent it over to the law to order, to do a health order, but nobody did tell me that. But that's okay. Then I guess my question is, does the select board support that in going to, with what the law comes up with in terms of having it forward to bring this property up to responsible living conditions? Well, as a member of the select board Well, as a member of the select board support that it's gotten to the town attorney at this point. So when we get back some information from the attorney, I'm sure that the board, since they're sure of it, it's likely the board will go along with their recommendations to move forward. And, you know, we're pursuing this for a reason, because of the way it is. So it's not to send it to him, wonder what to do. It's really hard. We want to take action on this. You know, Dick's trying to do his job by the, I don't know, by the book. And as we all are. And so, you know, sometimes, and sometimes Dick can't tell you things that are going on as well. But you can rest assured as long as I'm here, that we are working on it. And it's not something that's being kicked around in the circle either. I mean, it's going to be appropriate people that, you know, the times that it allows. Okay. Thanks for your time and all of that. I just want to be sure that this does continue. Sure. No, I understand. Thank you for advocating. Okay. Well, it's nice. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you very much. All right. So now we, is there any other public comment? Kristen Rogers. Hi. So I just, I know Lisa was in, I'm coming as a person from the school board. And I know Lisa stopped in on July 5th. To talk about our meet and greets with our new superintendent, Dr. Mike. And so I wanted to just, you know, keep promoting them. So we do have a meet and greet coming up on Wednesday, August 17th. At the Warren town hall from five to seven 30. And that address is 413 main street in Warren. And then we have another meet and greet on Saturday, September 10th. From 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. at the waste field farmers market. So I just want to, you know, continue to keep the word out there so people can feel free to. Stop by and see him. And for those who are not going to be able to attend these in person, we are going to be hosting a zoom kind of Q and a with him at some point in the fall. I believe he has also decided that he's going to join us at more fests for the cake eating contest. He thinks it's a judging contest that's actually needing contest. Yeah. And he's the, he's definitely, you know, if there's more events that, you know, more towns going to be holding anything like that, he definitely wants to be part of all of our towns community. So he's, you know, if there's anything else that's special that's coming up, definitely feel free to, you know, let him know because he definitely would be interested in seeing what's out there. He really wants to get to know all of our towns. Well, that's encouraging. Thank you. And thank you for letting us know about the upcoming meetings. Yeah. Thank you so much guys. Have a great meeting. Thank you. All right. Do we have anyone else online that was here for public comments? Mike, do you have public comment this evening? All right. So anyone else here for the comments? We're all good. All right. So we're going to move on to the upper right hand square with Clark Amon. He is here for the village wastewater discussion. Clark. Hey folks. Sorry, it's taken us so long to get back to you here. Just to give you a kind of where we're at at this point that there has been a small committee of more town residents that have been taking some time to take a look at proposals from new boys and King and Otter Creek engineering to do a feasibility study for a village wastewater. And the RFQs went out during the winter. The proposals came in early spring. And finally, the, we formed the committee and it's met a couple of times in late May and June to formulate our approach. In late June, we had interviews with both Otter Creek and do boys and King. And due to vacations and people being out of town, we weren't able to actually sit down and review the interviews that we had with the firms. And make our recommendation for feasibility study. So that's where we're at point. And I just want to double check. I'm here to pass along the committee's recommendation for which one of the firms to do the feasibility study. And Tom, I checked with you and this is not something that is going to be an executive session. This will be an open meeting. Is that correct? Okay, great. Okay, so just to cut to the base. Both firms were outstanding and their presentations and also in the interviews and the committee felt lucky that, you know, these are firms that are active in working and doing great projects in Vermont. Both firms have done feasibility studies or engineering studies for similar projects. But after taking a look at both of the firm's proposals and the interaction that we had with the firms, the committee would like to recommend to the select board that they, that we choose the Otter Creek engineering folks to do the engineering study. Very good. Right. No, no, they haven't read because I didn't feel like, like it was our position to do that. I better know that we needed to meet with the select board to make the recommendation. And if the select board chooses to go along with that, then I'm not quite sure who would reach out to them. I'm happy to do that on behalf of the select board if you want, or if you, if it's appropriate to have someone on the board connect with them, that would be fine. Yeah, in a way. Yeah, we can, that's something that probably we'll have in the game though, Clark, if you don't mind, you've been working with these firms. Yeah, so you'd like me to do it. Yeah. You do that. So this was all following under the, the grant that we have for this feasibility study. Is that correct? Well, you know, you know, it's fairly convoluted, frankly. What happens is that now the firm has been selected. I'll be contacting Tom Brown and one other person that just has come on with the projects. And what they're going to do is they actually will be negotiating with the firms in terms of the scope of the work and the, and the fee. And the town will be involved with that process. And there may be an opportunity, this may be actually an opportunity for you to And answer some of the questions that come up. Or maybe me, I'm not quite sure. So then the next communication that I have with the board will probably be, it could be as early as a couple of weeks at the next meeting so that I can update you on that a little bit more of the nuances about where this goes from here. The town is going to be responsible for filling out an application of which I volunteer to do. But a lot of the work is going to be done between the firms. The state point because it's, it's the state's dime or dimes that are going to be paying for this. So that's, and I wish I could be a little more specific, but it's a, it's a, it's a relatively long process. And let's see, it's the first of August. That's probably, you know, we're going to try to get, shoot to get this done around the first of November and then November, something like that. There are different completion dates that, and horizons that the state has set up. And like I said, the next time I meet, I'll be able to give you more specifics in terms of when that will be done. Good. Well, I think you answered my question by the, the state's dime. So I did like that. I did like that answer. Thanks. Clark, are you anticipating or should we use any recovery funds for this at this time? You mean what has been, you mean the ARPA funds for the town? Yes. No, no, not at, not at this point, Ray, we, you know, the cost for the probably going to be 90 and 110,000 or something like that. That's kind of the ballpark that we've gone around. And yeah, so no, we're not going to be asking for any ARPA funds. Okay. Just to be clear, I didn't want to get involved with selection process and I told you that, but I'm glad they, now that we've made that selection or going to make that selection and I'm willing to step in again and help you in any way I can. Yeah. When I, when I, I'm going to contact the state, probably not tomorrow on Wednesday, kind of make sure that I understand what the timeline is. And then, you know, it'll probably be important to, and then that's when, you know, the week, you know, you and I and maybe the committee can start working on this. And, and I know I'm jumping around. I'm not going to be doing that. I'm not going to be doing that. I'm not going to be doing that. I'm not going to be doing that. I'm not going to be doing that. Committee. There's a. Dang involved with this. Jay. It's typically so. It'll be great to have Jay around as well. So. John. That's around the tail. Call it. Don. Questions for the red Clark. No. No question. I was just making sure that. We're not just spending. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, I mean. Eventually we may have to spend some money, but. Right. Point is to get. Paid for out of other funds. The state revolving funds. So. That's, that's hopefully where this is going. Okay. I do have one question. What's your sense. Just as you've been working on this and with some of the. Engineers and such. What's your sense to the. The feedback you're getting is that actually there's something. It is possible with. It can be. Location in the village to have a treatment. No. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good question. Callie and Donnie. So. There have been a couple of. Comments that engineers have sort of made off the cuff as they've looked at the topography of more town village. And you know, the one person. I. Where you put it kind of question. So yeah, but I mean, that's what the feasibility studies supposed to answer. You know, it's whether or not we're actually going to have. An opportunity to. We don't know. I mean. And this is. I don't think this is irresponsible speculation, but it is something that's come up. So. One of the things that we've learned is that. The system that's up on the hill that serves the school. In order to put a system in like that. You have to have backup site in case that place in case that fails. So there, there may be actually more capacity up there than, than we think. So. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah, you'll have to hire into, you know, maintenance people to do that. That's part of me. You know, as we go down the road on this, if we get that far down, that we're actually answering those questions. You know, we'll have made a fairly serious commitment to, you know, press on. All right. So I've moved to accept the committee's recommendation for Audit Creek engineering for the feasibility study. No second. Any further discussion or questions? The motion. All in favor of our eye. Against. And Ray abstain. So. Thank you. So Clark, you can go ahead reach out. To Audit Creek, but more so the state and let them know what direction you're going. We are going. Yeah. And let me just double check something here. Because. Yeah. If you'd like me to come in. On the 15th. I can do that. So just like. Okay. Thank you. Okay. All right. Thanks everybody. Okay. You want. He goes away and the noise goes away. Imagine that. All right. Well, thank you, Clark. Good time. All right. So we are moving right ahead. We are. Two minutes behind. Mark. For the water. Hey guys. Director of water. This is Max Burke. She's the administrator. That's your table. You just stop it. You go up the where we are. Okay. Okay. So as you guys know, we celebrated 50 years. This past year. Cover the more time. It's about. The section that we've covered is about all that time. We moved into our. For our quarters. In 19. In 1983. And the. Quarters were great for that. In that time period, except it will be about one. BC or before COVID. We would do. But. Stop. We trains. Public CPR trainings. Things of that nature. As well as our own trains. And that particular. Location. But now. We've gotten bigger. We're going to take delivery of next year. It's too long to fit into the bay. So. And we've known for a long while. These quarters where it was substandard. So it was time to start looking at. It took us almost five years to find the location. We finally have. It's down. 100. What a very still road. Rightward. Warns. Tanks used to be. On the left hand side. Going north. Just passed up to a road. It's on the left hand side. So that's where we're. We're going. We hope approved. The permits are all permit applications are all in. And we're just waiting for approval. Copy is also going in there. Putting in. Mansfield. Orc. Building. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. And that's it. That's the. The. The building. And that's an. So as soon as the permits are done. The land will change hands and you will commence. Building at this point in time. Looks like we're going to be at least putting in. The road before the end of the year. And with a lot of. Construction. Right after the first of the year. If all go as well. So you'd like to. Maybe this surrender. Of what we're planning. But looks like. Yeah, so the scoop on the building is we are fundraising $3 million for the project. When we initially started it was 2.5, but as you know inflation issues that we've been having with supply chain, we had to bump that up to $3 million. I've got some brochures that I'll share about the project. We've been fundraising not only from individuals but grants, corporations. We're going to be putting an event on in the fall and basically doing everything we can in order to raise these $3 million. In terms of our capacity with this project, Mark and I are full-time with Waterbury Ambulance. We have eight per diem employees and the remainder of our squad is all volunteer. What's happened nationwide with volunteers is that the volunteerism in EMS has decreased. That's because of the amount of time and energy that it takes to get the certifications and keep them up as well as just kind of the way the world has gone that people have less time to volunteer. That being said, we still do have 35 volunteers who are volunteering 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to respond. In terms of our service area, 76% of who we serve is Waterbury. 4% is Moortown and 20% is Secretary. So Moortown is the small portion of what we cover. We cover as far as and including Lovers Lane from Waterbury over. Mark mentioned those space restrictions. So one of the things that we've had to consider is having overnight accommodations as volunteerism has gone down. We've had to bring in folks from other towns to come stay in our current facilities and have adequate showers or sleeping quarters for staff members to be there. So where we stand with our fundraising is we had available $1.5 million. That was from saving over the last bit, knowing that this project was coming up. We've also been significant in COVID response. So we've been testing and vaccinating. We started with just a couple testing sites and we got asked by the state to start doing homebound vaccinations. And now last month we did 90 different vaccination clinics throughout the states. We're not just serving this area. We're going all over, at least central Vermont. We're going to Berlin a little bit. We are more fast vaccinating. We've come here to vaccinate and then our test site in both Berlin and Waterbury has been us. So that wasn't just Mark and I and our small team of 40 or so. We hired on over 200 employees, nursing students, EMTs from other areas. Mark has a long history in EMS here in Vermont. So we're able to kind of gather our friends together to really make that happen. And we were able to gain income. Something important too is we're a 501C3 non-profit. So we aren't part of the municipality of Waterbury. We're our own separate entity, which is good and bad in different ways. We're grateful that we have the opportunity to have some independence. So that 1.5 million had available. From that we've raised an additional $730,000. That leaves us, so we've raised a total of $2.2 million, $3 million. And we have $770,000 left to go. So we still have a ways. We had one donor come in and give $500,000 in order to name the facility after Karen Steele, whose husband Ed Steele helped start Pilgrim Park and was a huge part of the Waterbury community. Really when we're looking at donors, most of the people that are getting are from within our service area because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for folks from not within who we're serving to give. We went and met with the Waterbury Select Board in the beginning of July or middle of July and spoke with them at a few different community members suggestions to request ARPA funds. And what they said was they gave approval to give $76,000 towards the project. And there were two contingencies. One contingency was voter approval. And the other contingency that was those percentages that I mentioned earlier, 76% of Waterbury is who we serve, 20% Dexbury and 4% Moortown. They were interested in those towns matching at their level that we serve towards that contribution to make a total of $100,000. And I hope that was clear. So 76,000 would come from Waterbury, 4,000 from Moortown, and 20,000 from Dexbury. So we're here to request that $4,000 appropriation of ARPA funds towards our project. Anything to add, Mark? You covered it and took my steam tube. Sorry. No, let's go. Any questions? The building being way on the other side of town, if you will, now moving outward. As far as your response time is down this road, you see those? Your response time actually tells me better. Because we're not coming down to a walk road for one point in seven miles. We're just going to be right up the road, right out to 100. Right there. Anybody got it? John? I mean, Ray? Count? Is this something we can just put in our budget, two for one next year or something? Are you saying it's needed now or are these towns putting it in there so well for next year? What would work? Like we normally do, right? Yeah, what would work is just a commitment at this point in time. Cash is not needed now. I hate to use the word pacified, but satisfied. Waterbury, they have the two continuancies. If there's a commitment on the part of more time than that, that's fine. That's great. That's most appreciated. Well, it's certainly a type of budget time for you and us as well. But it's a service that we all use and need. We appreciate what you do. We appreciate it. You know, showing up more fast. I know a number of people get vaccinated from town. It was cute. It was the first day of open for boosters for the older folks. And it was adorable. People were running and grabbing their friends. You told me, I was like, really? So we're running around with pretty people. It was very fun. So I can certainly support a $4,000 donation to the Waterbury Amulets EMS. I'm not sure we'll take it out of the ARPA funds, but as long as we can give you a commitment and figure that out, by the end of the year, you can pay it on how our budget is either this year or the first of the year, but no later than the end of January. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Well, that was emotional. Any further discussion? Would it also be something that, I mean, you know how every year in our town budget that we present, we have line items for annual expenses? Exactly. That's why I say that we need to figure that out. So all in favor, go got it? All right. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Unless you have any more time. We're under contract. Well, thank you for your work on the end of the year. That's one of your things. Good job. Did you buy or did you go out? Margie bought our house. Oh. Oh, I know. Yeah. I'm sorry I said that over here. Yeah. Oh yeah. Maybe we'll feed. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. We got it. All right. Thank you so much. Thanks. All right. So let's move ahead. We have the paving bins on the River Road project coming up. And we have now done ahead of our schedule in two minutes. So Ray, what do you got with the the bits here? Okay. Looks like we have one, two, three, four, five bits. Is there anyone else because there was rumor that someone was coming with bits for the paving? All right. Seeing here none. Ray? The first bit. Now I'm just going to read the pricing at this point. Yeah. And we can review on Mark. We haven't been here for pipe industries. Total amount of 160,881.40 cents. Say that one more time, Ray. 160,881.40 cents. All right. Now we have the ST paving. $170,350. Fresh cold asphalt services. $170,780. Frank Whitman, Whitman Construction. $162,465. The last is from Jerry Hutchins. $187,278.75. So the apparent no better at this time is pipe industries. And the second better would be Frank Whitman. So I would suggest at this point that Mark and I have reviewed these along with Cheryl to see. Let me have the funds. And then come back with us with a recommendation on them. Can you reach out somewhere between you and Martin or Cheryl to let these guys know where we're after that? I will. Yeah, great. Especially if we want to do it this year. Yeah. So. Okay. All right. I'm so happy to go there. And then once you get a finalized recommendation, come back and we'll make a motion. With that. Can I ask a quick question? Sure. I don't know. Just this. A lot of things come along. Yeah. So that helped. Was that paid originally because the farm was ongoing operating the farm? That was a major reason. Yeah. We were having a half the time. Yeah. The road and the farm vehicles and all that. Yeah. I mean, but now that that's not being farm anymore. Is it? Yeah. Well, they do. Yeah. The machine. Yeah. Okay. You're right. I'm just curious, you know. Part of it was base. Wasn't there a problem with the base material as well? Yeah. Yeah. It was a very wet area. Oh. I mean, it doesn't make sense. I'm just curious. Does it make sense to put it back to a dirt road? No. I didn't know. Probably not. I guess I'll be in a spot. No reason. So that too would grind it all up and take it up. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah. They are still, you know, cutting and hanging and storing. There's still, there's no way I'm not sure. I want to say there was cyberg somewhere that one of the grandkids maybe was going to take it over and do something with it. Yeah. No. It may come back in me now. I guess the one that they used to hear about. You know, when we were initially talking about this and actually it was just last fall, Martin, because that was my initial thought. I was wondering, but you know, it's as bad as it is. And I can't exactly recall the conversation, but I know after Martin went through what was it beyond why that is there. I didn't agree with it. All right. Let's go ahead and look into painting it. I'm sorry. I can't recall what it was. Otherwise, I don't think that was this. I don't think we've done this far, but I just, I was just wondering, you know. Sure. That was a good question. Yeah. That was a quick question too. Yeah. All right. All right. All right. So let's, there's nothing else with that on my agenda. You get to the neck of the woods. Excuse me. Oh. I feel like we should get raised. We do. We do. There are. It's great. You know, we're excited. So somebody did people get what I sent over to Sasha? And do you mind just so everyone knows who you are, just that. I'm Betsy Johngrove, I'm a member of the board of Neck of the Woods and I'm Mollie Morson. I'm the executive director of Neck of the Woods which used to be the Morson Education Center for all. Yeah, I think you all are. I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. Mollie, it's actually Morgan but everyone calls me Mollie. I'm O-I-E. Morson girl. Morson girl. I'm used to being my coach. That's why I'm such a good soccer player. I'm really not. So we're here tonight because as you've read through our recap, we are working aggressively to build out a childcare center at the Old Small Dog Building which will ultimately house 125 kids from six weeks old to pre-kindergarten. So it's a very ambitious project. We have already in our fundraising and through the community raised over $900,000 which allowed us to purchase the building, put a down payment on it. There are a lot of state requirements in terms of what we have to do in order to reach out to our center including the public water system which was $150,000. A new wastewater system which is going to go in this fall and lots of other licenses. Oh, there we go. We're out of time. You started it early. We did. I know. You're on a tight ship here. I'm sorry. I know. That's impressive. I need to do that. You want to introduce yourself. My name is John Lollison. I'm on the board at McWillis. And our treasure. So what we have been able to do so far is build up the ground floor. And once we get the wastewater system set in the presentation, we'll be up to 75 kids. The next major hurdle is why we're here tonight which is to install a commercial kitchen in the building which will bring the first Head Start program to the valley. It will allow us to become a Head Start program which brings lots of additional services as well as more advantages for lower income families. To give you a little bit of information, currently, as I said, 51 kids are building. We also run the summer camp program out of the Morton School. And Molly also runs the after school program at the Morton School. That's all under our umbrella. And we have a waiting list right now of close to 90 kids using all those programs going on. So we need these endless. And to be able to bring Head Start into the valley is, we think, as a lot of people in the valley, a huge advantage. And as we all know, childcare is like a hot topic. So we're hoping to get from each of the valley towns a sum of $25,000 each from ARPA funds if possible. So that we can begin that kitchen process and we'll raise the rest on Head of Fund Grids. And so I will use that more or less as a match to bring in the rest of the funds and be able to build that kitchen, hopefully, in 2023. Did you mention how many Morton kids? No, but right now it's 24% of our enrollment is from Morton. And that's the biggest town in this weight field and then faced. Warrant is as small as because of our artists away. But with over 200 kids in our programs right now, Morton is definitely the number one. Is that supporting a wide spectrum of folks in town? And how are you here at your cost? I guess everyone's getting an opportunity. Yeah, so it's pretty well. But 30% of our population is free and reduced. Not for that matter right now because everyone gets free lunch, but through the HUSC. But 30% of our population is technically lower income and we can raise that even higher for folks. It's really hard for families who are lower income to be able to afford to have a lower end of the spectrum, which we are. So this would be a huge opportunity for us to be able to offer that to them. Yeah, because I see that as a huge obstacle for folks around that is the China-care and then just the HUSC. I don't know how they do it, you know. There are a wide variety of subsidy programs that they can apply to which more we connect them to. So the Beverly Raleigh Community Fund offers subsidies? Yeah, the perfect council and I mean subsidy to the state as well, which is shifting and changing. So the more we can help as a whole unit, the better off everyone to be. So this will be a huge opportunity though because Head Start also offers the opportunity for them to, for Capstone to offer us some staff to pass along to families that basically can do like home check-ins. And offer services outside of our programming and inside of our programming. So it's, it's our best and it's incredible. And so standing in the way is a lot of the kitchen? Exactly, yes. Yeah, you have to have a food service program. Well, there's lots of evening with Ian. Yeah. And it has to be commercial and it's a very expensive process because we have to jerry-rate the space that we put it in, connecting to set date, movement of stuff. So it's a very high ticket item. I think it's 190,000 total for the whole build up, all the appliances. But it'll offer us the opportunity. Also our long-term plans for Metcalfe Woods is to open it up to the community when we're not using it. So it gives us great meeting spaces down the road. We also happened to own, this is just not specific to the kitchen, but part of the building, the small building itself is 10,000 square feet, which is massive. You don't realize it until you get in there. We also own almost a 5,000 square foot warehouse that's behind it. It's currently rented out, but it could be a great community space down the road, which we don't really have in there. It offers the opportunity to ask for both orders. It's big and open. So it's really an exciting opportunity for the whole valley as we move forward. What we can do with this building. And we also like, if you have any interest in coming and taking a tour, we're always built. Not always. And so the kids. We are mostly at home. Sometimes we're sleeping. We're not sleeping. The kids are sleeping. We should come in that way. The other piece of this that's becoming more and more important is other childcare programs in the valley have had to shrink their offerings for staffing reasons. And I think that Ways for Children Center has suspended their infant program for the last six months. So obviously the following is remaining on our end because we'll know where there's new places that can take some kids. And we can't take them. First of all. Everyone else? Yeah. But the bigger we get, the better. To Tom's question, are you finding that, you know, because wartime is so spread out? I mean, are people coming from the Waterbury side of the wartime? You know what feels like? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We actually, we have people on the very, very far side. We've got actually a couple of people from our fields and then circling in down there. And then we have folks all the way from the Waterbury side. And then on this side we have a couple of middle sex folks and circling in on there all the way back that way. Pretty much everywhere. You can have, I mean, we even will find families that work over this direction and work in the valley that they live in Burlington. So it's great because it brings people in to work in the valley. We want people in the workforce and we want people in the valley. And so it's a great resource for those folks as well. It's for me, it's actually kind of amazing because remembering you coming in eight, seven, eight years ago, whatever it was, about $500, do something at the school. And there were a few kids, you know. She's got a more expensive taste now. Yeah. I'm pleased to hear that we're still retaining space for more town folks. Folks, there's only three or four percent of what you said. We have a really, we love the other towns, but we're going to keep the secret over here. More towns are like... Just edit that. Yeah, we do, we have a really nice camaraderie with more towns. Questions around the table, folks? John, Kelly? So we have obviously a process here. I can support this. Being this much money, we will have to put it in front of the voters. I don't know if there's anything like this not passed, but frankly, we can probably use our funds for it. I mean, that's a new board decision as we get down closer to that, how we will do the wording for it. But as long as the rest of the board supports it, it seems that there's a lot of head nodding and agreeing. We can give you approval. We'll do this as long as the voters do. Can you get it on the November ballot? Are you happy with the next prayer? I can get back to you on that. We can probably get it on the November ballot. I didn't want to speak with the planning commission, too, and see what they have for... We've asked them to form a committee for the ARPA funds and see what they've come up with. So I want to kind of align with what they're doing. But it's not our question to do with them. But I think it won't take a vote here in a moment, but I think you've got to admit that we'll get it in front of the voters and support it in front of the voters. So the likelihood of it passing is probably pretty good. Is there something we've got 24% of the people going every year to sell it to your people to vote for it? And God, I don't think... Again, these type of things go over pretty well here in town, because we see the value up there. Yeah, the world's on being... The need for childcare is on everybody's mind, I think. I don't think it's something that anybody doesn't understand. No, I think you might have had a job way too much and you've got a lot of new people. Mollie, like I said... We couldn't do it without this guy. You know, you're heading in and continuing to do it. So again, to me, that's a bit of an accomplishment. Okay, great. So I move to put the Nicola Woods Education Center final request on the ballot that makes sense either here in November or on town meeting for the $25,000 allocation. Second. Thank you, John, and for the discussion and questions on the report. Hearing none, all in favor of a ride. All right. We really appreciate your time and your enthusiasm. That's great. All right. So I think, John, we have probably you and Chris discussing the town hall. I was thinking the town forest management plan. I'm not. So let me back that up. I misspoke the discussion on the town hall. Don Depp. Cory. Cory. I'm a journalist. Pardon me. I'm a journalist. Two more. Yeah, I want to say, everyone, just pull up one of the two. That's fine. I don't get that one. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine, Chris. That's fine. That's fine. All right. John, are we working on this here that you sent us? Yes. Let me go. This is it. All right. Go ahead and take the floor. I'm happy to start. So I'm going to take a look at the town hall use policy and rental agreement. So we did do that. And this is the draft that we came up with. But we also worked with the draft to the library trustees, which is quite different. It's here. And then we also, a couple of us also met with Cheryl Lynn and Sasha to get their input as well. So it has made the rounds. So when we looked at the policy, it just, this is really an excellent document. I mean, it's so clear. It's very well written. So there really weren't a lot of changes that we made. The changes that we did make were lines that reflect the current status of the building and its use. And so I know that you have had an opportunity, hopefully, to look at this. And anything that is in blue is either a change in the language or it's actually a new language. And you can fly it in red and just see as we have to still clarify that a little bit. And then everything that's in black type with one tiny little exception, which I'll forget to, is just hard language. So I'm not convinced in why it does not change at all. So we're just hoping to, obviously, hopefully that would make it easier to go through and make changes. So I wasn't sure if you wanted to just go through it in a linear fashion or if you wanted to just start with questions that you have. It's really up to you how you went to proceed. We might as well just go right through a linear fashion and start at number, it looks like there's nothing to number one. No. Number two, priority of use. And so you're adding language, go ahead, Carl. Right. Again, the first part of that paragraph comes from the prior agreement. The only thing is on the third line where it says, utilized by town staff, boards, commissions, and committees. Before, it also said, and towns that sponsored events. And so we just changed that to say for community programming and events because we felt that more reflected what is happening now. So that was the change there. And also obviously not during regular library hours. And then again, the sentence, accommodations can be made for immediate needs. For example, a memorial service or a bootstraining emergency. We were feeling that those are the only two that we were just mentioning a couple of examples that might then take precedent over any other commitment or schedule. So on a Saturday, we couldn't do anything. It's just between 3 p.m. and 12 a.m. I think that's the correct list. No, we couldn't. We can't. We can't. We have a bit of a party. So it seems like a Saturday there's a possibility that people would want at early at 3 o'clock that they had a wedding reception or some other function like that. Is it possible that you could word that that Saturday, there may be more time available on Saturday if we don't approval of the event or something like that. What has been the conflict now of these artists? Because once in a while, I see libraries closed for a private event. How often does that happen? Well, the pandemic sort of skews everything, right? So I would say starting with the Nutcracker event, it's probably been, what would you say, four or five times. And I think it's a balance, right? Because if the library becomes unreliable, people won't, they'll never know whether it's open or not. And someone used the example of what if they send their kid there after school on a Tuesday, not knowing that we have to be closed for a different event. So it's that tension. And I will say, I think Saturdays, I think a weekend day is important to preserve for the people that work Monday through Friday jobs, Saturdays and Sundays during the week. So that's something where, you know, maybe we shift our hours around a little bit. It feels like there's a real need for Saturdays. I wouldn't say that's been the only day that we've been asked to be closed by any means. No, I certainly understand that. And going into it, we knew there was going to be those days that needed to be closed because of the other uses of the catalog. And I think what happens is that, and like Corey said, it's not like the old days when a lot of people were renting the town hall after all, those have some a few, the basement is kind of not really palpable at the moment, you know. And the insurance certainly is an issue as well. But I think that sometimes maybe just the coordination of the rental as we move forward, and I think this is what we're trying to also do here is, you know, how we go forward coordinating rentals. So when there is a case of, you know, you're celebrating an anniversary and you want to stop partying at two, but you've reached out in advance, you know, far enough in advance then accommodations can be made and stuff like that. And as we go further through the document, you can see it's kind of addressed that way to try to get to that, that spot where things like that can take place, but the management of it is, you know, is coordinated with all the products. And I think to have like a really clear document that we all follow, it might be good to even come up with like how many times a year would the library close on a Saturday for an alternate event so that it can be something that everyone just follows without having to be subjective about it. I think as a library trustee, that's my concern is that sometimes the communication isn't clear among all parties. And so the library is scrambling to get people to help break down, to get people to help set that up because it seems like it's last minute because the communication hasn't been that clear. And to Cora's point about Saturdays being such an important day, I think that the library does have hours and you go in and you see families and it's just a real opportunity for community to use that space and have it be count onable. And I guess my thing again is just how do we clear up communication so that we're not scrambling to try to move things that feel as if transition to a different event happens in an orderly fashion where all parties feel respected, where we can inform the town, people of the town, hey, this Saturday or Tuesday or whatever this is happening with enough notice that it feels as if we recognize that I guess I'm a library trustee that the library is what takes the most time there and that we're open to other events around the library for the most part. Just speak to your point though, right? There needs to be some flexibility in there. But maybe as Cora says, we say seven times a year or 12 times a year once a month we could do this, whatever. I'm just saying, so it's just very clear. People are on blindsided and all parties are operating on the same playbook and we can go back and say, oh, but this was an understanding over here and we can refer to your paper for all. I think that will be helpful in clearing up communication. I'm just wondering with that that people may not rent it. If you say we're only going to allow you to do something once a month on Saturday if someone's trying to plan a funeral, then they don't go around wanting to see us. It's clearly, it's clearly any kind of funeral. Combinations can be made for immediate needs. Like this past fall we had a beloved community member pass away and we cleared out within three or four days. If someone's planning a wedding for next June, it would be nice to know that. And I would just point out, like this year, we've had almost 1,000 visits in the space. We've had over 350 people participate. It's not like that space is restricted and people can't use it. There are people using it daily when we are open. I just want to clarify too, I didn't mean that it shouldn't be open on Saturdays. I just meant additional. Like right now we're saying it's available from three to every Saturday. But maybe one Saturday a month it could be from noon. That's... Four of the combinations can be made. Yeah. But I think it's also, and maybe we should just keep going. Yeah, sir. Well, I was just going to say, keep in mind the other piece of this later this evening is, you know, I mean, part of this piece also coincides with the fact that, you know, we've sent out this RFP and we're going to sign it and think about the next phase of upgrading and renovating the town hall. So this kind of goes hand in hand with that because some of the accommodations that will be made if we select them when the architect shows us this couple of different designs that would come up with it. And it'll make even, there'll be more uses going on in the town hall, which will drive having someone, you know, having a management system in place in this document. You know, this is just the beginning. It's not necessarily we're going to walk out of here tonight, saying this is the gospel, you know. And, you know, again, as we fix the building up and more people use it, and there's the basement, you know, the library is there, but then the shelves are going to move so that the town hall meeting can be there, and, you know, I can have my 75th birthday party there because that's about what the project will be done by the end. But, you know... Can't be that far away. Thanks, thanks. That was nice. We're ready though, let's turn it across to the boys. Let's carry on. Go ahead, Carla. Okay, yeah, and again, this next page. There aren't a lot of changes. We actually did remember it just because we thought that we should put the kitchen under parking just to make it really clear what is available and what isn't. And the only change we made in the kitchen was they raised the lights and basically it was a full, you know, full functioning kitchen. And, you know, at this point, it's not. So we just, you know, wrote that it's, you know, it is somewhat limited. So, but otherwise, you can see there's really, really no changes to the kitchen, the parking, the prohibitions, all of that. Other than that, we also thought for parking, we should try to let them know exactly how many spots they really are there and just how limited that is, just so that's kind of our front. Does anybody here know how many? Yeah, it's almost like... Go with the town hall. Depends on how close you park. Well, I don't even like that still in this design. Yeah. And also the time of year. Yes, that's true. And we're parking on the other side at the grace of the song. Yeah, right. I don't think we should really count it. So... So we can, I can have Martin and maybe Ray when you get a chance why don't you go out and really measure out what we have. You think there's 10? Of course. That's amazing. I don't want to say 5. I was going to say 4. I'm going to do concrete piece in for the drains. Right. You have the handicap spot. If it's not winter 3 to 4 you're going to have more against the created. Yeah. But does it like do good information to provide around here just so that you don't run into big issues and having them parked around? So I think it does talk about not parking in the back because those are private so maybe the whole spaces that could be highlighted that remind you you have four spaces plus the parking lot up here to use. So that they do know that there is actually parking right behind the town hall by the gas tank is the town up through the town hall. That is true. I mean I have seen 10 cars parked there before. On both sides though. On both sides. But not to count you have shoes up or something. On all sides of the town hall. Against the town hall. And behind a little bit. I'm going to talk a little bit about your cars there. Your new SUV that you have put 10 of those in. By the way, I would prefer to see the municipal lot use more and Don and I have been working on a crosswalk. That would be really ideal. All right, so we have at least one thing to come back to use a number of parking spaces. All right, Karla, go ahead. On the next page. They cleaned up the one issue that we came up with. We started talking about the fact that now we need to separate food scraps. And so we started thinking about, okay, if you're in the renter and they have food scraps and trash, they have recycling. And we're going to start with the town hall because they're Indian. And how to reset that up. And so actually when a couple of us met with Charlotte and Sasha, they actually thought that this was really kind of one tool. And really, that maybe what we should say is that it's just not trash from moving services provided. And then if you have the town hall, is that kind of packing and packing it up? We'll just need to take care of your own because the town hall has to be new if there's food scraps in the trash. So that was their suggestion. But it's just not an option. I think it's clear and it's filled out and the reasons behind it, it would make sense to us. We need to make sure that is clear. And then on nine, I think this is where we try to separate out the responsibilities of the town hall manager, the town clerk and the town hall custodian. So in the first paragraph that we used to say the scheduling of events would be done through the town clerk and we have talked a lot about the position of the town hall manager being a central person who will coordinate all these scheduling events. And so actually in the second line there too, it should be where it said if there are any questions about a space facility or equipment available that phrase actually should also be in blue because that is new. So that was one of the reasons we've talked about having a town hall manager be someone probably as a library staff person or something that only because of scheduling events and the number of events that happen through there, but even the very questions maybe about the space, about the facility and about what's available in terms of equipment and all those kinds of questions answered through a town hall manager and then the second paragraph that does say exactly the same where it talks about all insurance certificates, deposit payments, all these still would be mailed to the more downtown office to the attention of the town clerk or dropped off during normal business hours if there's any questions about payment that would also be the town clerk so all of the paper would still go to the town clerk and be processed the way it always has been. And then that last paragraph about the town hall custodian again is pretty much exactly what it had said before although there was a question about if you need to add additional information about it just so that people were clear on how that works and what you don't have to do. Do you have any questions, anybody? No? Again, if you can see there really aren't any questions for 10, 11 I'm sorry, did you do it? Okay. 11 is just the only reason that 7 is in red originally we were kind of confused about what was the setting like one place at a tent but again I talked to Sherylen about that and she said now that's all fine but I'm not sure about the sentence proof that the insurance is also required it should be right there so again it's just really clear. And then again in terms of all the the rates obviously the only thing we did was we took out the pre-range trash trash in the book because we're not going to provide that that would be omitted. I was also just curious in reading through this with the cleaning so I don't know how it works now I know like during COVID Megan was cleaning after groups were in their renting but I don't know if that's still happening or if that's going to continue to happen or if it only happens I don't know what if necessary means so that was just a question I had about whether that cleaning fee should just be in there and cover what Megan does to clean up of course it should be because it should be clean regardless we'll do a good job but we should have a consistent clean and if you have a clean system then I think that would certainly make sense rather than my cleaning your cleaner probably different yours being cleaner or mine. Go ahead. So then again just the time hall manager again that's again library staff and then in terms of the town hall rental agreement we really changed a very very big rule that we did and obviously that we thought it should be a checklist right on the floor whether or not going to be the kitchen whether or not really like the refrigerator or again just a quick thing and then again number five insurance we simply moved it from number eight to number five again just to put it right up right over that right with the rent and security deposit section any other there's six obligations of the grant term you just added the phrase that they would be liable to repair the facility or replacement of town or library equipment and materials that's it it was a previous policy so you talk about a town hall manager are there any other thoughts on how work as far as you pay for is it a volunteer position what's the thought behind that I don't think I don't know that we've spent a lot of time thinking about that we've spent a lot more time thinking about the responsibilities and the coordination how that would work in terms of the calendar of defense I'm not sure I think at this point we were just talking about it in this first phase that would be someone from the library staff talking to Cory about it and then I think down the road three or four years, five years from now it's a lot of things are going on we have some fees for different events where people are running downstairs for different groups of meetings and I won't go into all the possible uses but that maybe it will be able to vent that point someone would actually become we would really need to move it to the next level not a library staff person an actual town hall manager at some point five years down the road depending on what kind of stuff we have going on but at this point just coordinating all the programs that the library is doing not just community programs that they're doing and the rentals I think would be easier to coordinate those all those lunches that was the suggestion at this point so are you thinking that is there something that Cory would pick up? I think so potentially Nicole and the level of renting right now would fit within the hours that I currently have as a town employee and overall it would allow for a lot of communication so the sit-in shop group rented it out a few months ago and I was not aware that was the group renting it out and if I had been aware I could have helped them promote it I could have put it on the sandwich board sign I could have helped really make it a great community event I think it was successful anyway but unfortunately I didn't know that so I posted it and it was closed to the private event the library so that's just the kind of communication that I think would be fixed if we were able to help schedule and rent it out and having this document in front of us makes it really clear about who can rent it out when sort of thing so it's not that hard to follow currently your hours quarry if it's available on these days you have library hours the other hours open 20 hours a week and then we do, I don't know how many hours of community programming but it's not always at the town hall the summer that mostly outside so Sasha and I'm glad everyone has input as far as you folks or Sherwin does that work for you guys as far as not having to do the bookings I think originally more was a money tracking issue but it seems like that's the trust here go through Sherwin being treasurer so that part you don't bring her but yeah it might take a little bit of pressure so Sherwin is still handled with money yeah but it seems to make sense that somebody who's there the library half time at least cause I didn't know about that that's a good example that would be very helpful should we think about though I think the Saturday hours and the rate you originally brought it up how long do you go until 3 o'clock 10 to 2 and it takes about 4 of us half an hour to pack up but I think that's the other thing if someone's having a birthday party and they don't mind having it in the library and they don't need everything to put away so therefore we could be ready a lot sooner and that's where those kind of conversations can happen when someone reaches out to rent this space or maybe the library needs its hours to Sunday one thing is this can always be changed so if we try this for 4 to 6 months and we're getting a lot of community members that are feeling like they want to rent it on Saturday you know we can shift our hours again I think it's important to have some weekend hours it doesn't really matter when they are as long as they're consistent I think when someone reaches out to the NAMC quarry and they say oh I'm looking to rent it October some Saturday in October but I really need to get in there some of my team for the party need to get in there early or something you know certainly the quarry will be able to go oh yeah we can do this and we can accommodate that I mean there'll be some working together you know and go okay with this amount of notice we can close the library an hour earlier or something like that so I think having around the ability to coordinate with the renters you know how about someone will go well how about this setting well you know we're having you know it's studying the bees that day you know would you consider the Saturday before or something yeah I think this I'm sure you want to work with people because you always hear rumors right in town people say oh I'm at the library at least and I can't I'm just going to say it out loud none of us ever said that to anyone so I don't know how that rumor started but I want that on the record I have never told anyone they can't rent through town hall and neither has Nicole that's again that's rude but I want to make it clear here on the record we've all been there helping to break it down and set it back up you know next October they want to probably something we can accommodate at six months a year in advance to close the library if you need to every day I mean I do think to just be like 100% transparent it would be good to have it on paper of like what are the circumstances you know is it six weddings a year is it once a month I personally think once a month is a little frequent for people to count on the library being open but yeah see I don't think you need I mean I don't want to loose you but yeah I think you know saying that we're going to close it once a month is probably not a great thing to do no I agree that's almost out of wedding and I don't think that we should be at the mercy of like I said someone in three weeks wants to have their wedding the anniversaries or whatever it happens to be some of those are like players but you know those type of things we can look them in the eye and say look that's not a problem or they could start at three right they can come in and help break it down right well I think the whole point is to use that little to maximize use with an inclusive field to everyone so I think you know I'm certainly willing to give you know see how it works for the next six months or whatever until town meeting you know all of a sudden then we can you know we're all flexible here you need to be in these times you need to be flexible and everyone's a moving point or piece here but if we all have the right philosophy we're really trying to serve and do best and you're willing to work and get your staff I think that's good enough for me and if we have to it comes a point where in the six months let's put a number on how many times we can change this around let's consciously look at the next six months and see what it is because I don't think you're going to need to I don't think you're going to have that many requests to be honest with you and you know the few rules those are the type of things that do want to die yes or God forbid another flood of flood or something like that well we'll have this built into so it'll be up high enough but and you know as long as it's not taking too much more of your time and again the communication back between you and the staff here so that everyone knows it's on the right of the same page so there's not checks missing or people not getting their deposits back so should we incorporate some of these changes just for the red man now that we have this we've talked about it I think we've got something really here around the table why don't between now and then our next meeting just go through and I think we can make all these changes just give us a little checkpoint here um and we may we want to tweak here and there but fundamentally I think it works doable for many people yeah certainly part of it I have one thing I want to address now on page two number six it was prohibited at the facility and on page number eight prohibited in the facility um so bottom line is some of you are allergic to cigarette smokers nothing more than doctors to have to walk by somebody at the front door smoking so I mean pretty much anybody who needs to smoke they can smoke in their car services and so now I'm smoking maybe like most restaurants right now all right all right Deborah okay okay thank you have a nice afternoon thank you very much thank you I appreciate it you're welcome thank you do you want to know what I want to tell them all just kind of just talking about the RFP and stuff that we talked about in the last meeting do you want to wait for old business and stuff oh it's fine I can bring it up under my old yeah I want to do that I'm sorry I don't know thank you all right so reports and communications thank you ladies thank you Sasha I don't have anything I just wanted to think that's helpful for you to share the contract thank you everybody okay okay okay so we'll address those all on old business where do you have any reports communications announcements a couple of things most everything is up there old business the recovery act and Gallo Gators but I did want to bring it up and that's probably why Mike is probably on board tonight so there was Mike had started his work on Cobb Hill there was a few issues between Mike and myself and Denise but I have spoken to Mike directly and I think everything is resolved I have everything from Denise in a week so I have sort of had her and Mike work things out as far as there was a delay in a long project and it was supposed to go by us on starting work two days before and apparently Mike and Martin met up and I didn't know that but Denise was part of that conversation so I think things are going okay and I don't know if Mike wants to say but I see he's on the line still but I'm satisfied things are going good I just wanted to address anything if there was a comment on it we apologize obviously for the inconvenience we talked to you guys we're just trying to do right and ensure that we're making no inconveniences for anybody around but I think we should be in good shape moving forward hopefully that sounds good Mike I appreciate it so and I haven't heard anything so that's always good so keep up communication all you guys working together thank you this morning rave hands another presentation Kelly? I just had a conversation with a camp owner on Lynch Hill there were some I wouldn't even call them water bars they're like charges with a shovel put in like every ten feet up the hill I don't know when he figured it out it was a conversation so I guess Martin knew it was coming in so that was fine but one of the camp owners had complained about it coming up the hill because it was shut down so he just went through and kind of cut the edges off but there was also some complaints about the same person that put them in speeding down the hill and speeding up the hill and he has a young child who's out his campus did you tell him the fellow state police he was going to talk to Riley he was just kind of letting you know what was going on and then there has been some formulas coming up the road in the middle of the road I almost hit one of them down a corner on the road in section two four of Lynch line up the road there was a Toyota pickup the defy had been farther down the road and he came on the corner from through Malbridge on to Jones Brook Road and went south of the way so if I see them I'll be calling the state police because I know I know who they are those of you who need to report them because if you don't do it you know who they are someone that doesn't know who they may hit so we got to reach out to them and say look it respect our town, respect our roads and I mean there are points where we won't go around the way because they're up there and they're racing and tearing around but we'll make sure no matter just continue to call the state police you've had enough of it and it shouldn't endanger other people so when I see them again because I didn't get enough look at them this time but when I see them again I will yeah I think that's the only thing we can do based on our conversation would this be something if we enter into that all the great thing with the sheriffs with the proposals we got from would that be something that we could call the sheriffs for? I mean with only one, not just one person you know so that's but that's where we may if we went to the sheriffs and said look we have constant speedy on Saturday afternoon on Lynch Hill we could say give them that type of information and that's what he said where he was part of it but he's not going to it's not like the state police they're supposed to show up which we know that is hard for them based on their limited availability but if we have a constant you know that's happening Saturday afternoons, Sunday afternoons whatever we need to communicate that if we decide to go forward that's correct so do you have a dominant group to fit in in a certain way not it's already described that's not their ballot that's not their thing anything else Kelly? no Don? the communications no now that's no job that's what I was thinking the speed limit right now theoretically it's 35 but with the new brakes we can lower it right that's what we need so I said that would be the first step because I don't think with the speed limit at 35 you call the state police or anything and the person says well I don't know 25 because that's not marked at all that word is not marked at all Tommy said so that's if you read the contract actually for the sheriff's part of that's one of the things they address in there you know we couldn't call them for that particular reason because if it's not identified and doesn't have the proper signage then they won't pursue something there so that's awesome we can do that now right exactly now with cats I think maybe that's something you want to work on maybe that project here for the board is very identify a few of these count roads that are in need of probably all are this section between here and here needs to be lowered to 25 and these are the signs that we need to do that in your area for the windshield if you don't mind can you do that for us? yeah because that hill is definitely not alright so we can bring that up we can bring that up to another little transportation right do that so then maybe there's some funding there to TARP or ARP or whatever next to you very good anything else? I guess no other communications announcements I just saw communication the Red Sox announcement just treated Christian Vazquez that used to be an action gross it was a rumor as far as you can go they're playing them tonight too so it'll be interesting to see whether he plays against us anyways so let's go ahead we have select board minutes for July 18th into 25th to go ahead and approve I make motion to approve the minutes of July 18th and 25th okay any further discussion on those minutes? nothing nothing here we'll go ahead and approve those all in favor of what I have alright so I'm going to before we go into new business I see Karen our zoning administrator is online Karen, do you have something for us tonight or are you just checking in to listen? you know I don't have anything to add to the conversation I kind of just wanted to attend just to get a feel for what is going on in the town so thank you for giving me a moment to I don't know if I needed to but I don't have any comments to add thank you I'm sorry I do want to no it's a good thing I just wanted to say a word of appreciation for getting me the remote computer I think that's going to help with my efficiency and also just being able to address things I don't have any office on Mondays and Tuesdays so I know it's kind of a big purchase so I really appreciate it, thank you thanks well it's important to you to be able to get back to people on a daily basis or at least their emails if they come in on Wednesday they don't have to wait a week to hear back that you've received their emails so that's money well spent alright so is there any new business tonight is Stefan online Stefan is online Stefan can you hear me yes I'm here I just had a question Stefan and Omar I think it's on vacation what is the town highway seating their ditches that they date so we are usually every couple days what we get down we're just using a conservation mix okay I'm not sure what you're I know you did some ditching up and down in Calvin and I did have a call about it not being seen for well over a week and I know sometimes whether it was a factor I gave it a chance to drive up there and look at myself but I think it's pretty important that when a ditch is dug it should be seated within 48 hours you've got to get girls going in these ditches or else things start growing pretty quickly and I hope that's what we're doing yeah it is there's sometimes where it gets missed a little section like between where we start where we finish kind of thing we'll get missed but usually not not for more than a week I would say you know that would probably be the max that we generally let it go okay that was my other question it's kind of a we may have a hydroceder have we ever thought about that we tried to get one but it was too expensive are there any other towns how does that have one do you know Face then has one and I think ducks very might I don't remember if they had one or if they were demoing one I think they were just demoing one the more I think about it you know check with your mother on that and see what you know whether they something that they you know I don't know if that's something that we would you know as a town yeah it's yeah it's an expensive unit for a town but I could see if we could split it with another town maybe having a be economical one of those things like the repair costs would be split and you know all that yeah you know next time you chat with her she's on the select board over there so just see what their their thought was is you know today decide not to buy one do they buy one and either way what wire if you don't mind yeah all right thank you anything else for us tonight step on um I've been working on some firetruck stuff to try to get that together plan on coming to the next the next meeting to have some time allotted to discuss that further yeah I've already asked Sasha to put you some time in so that was done perfect and other than that things are things are going good I did on the on the town hall thing with you guys discussing parking spots one thing that I thought of is that's a class 3 road that runs down the middle of that so we'll have to figure out the I don't know if there's actually technically enough room to have any parking spot by the time you get out of the class 3 road numbers that's a good point guess we didn't think of that all right well thank you for throwing some water on our parade step on we thought we had parking not a problem any time all right get out of there oh and while I'm on that also is there anything in there about snow removal as far as the sidewalks and stairs though at the town hall with the library being in there more is it something that because it's been kind of a split thing the library has been doing it but sometimes they don't so I end up doing it so it's we weren't sure if there was going to be anything you know in there and well that's something that we can look into yeah yeah thank you step on we'll have to make another hat for you step on yeah yeah exactly can you just sketch a piece of every hat together I'll just wear one big one all right step on thanks nothing else we're going to move ahead so we can go home do what we do so we'll go ahead and we do have some old business stuff to address and I will start with it with the the sheriff's office and everyone get an opportunity to look at the contract that was sent around yes pretty familiar with them anyway so with the sheriff right you have a lot of problems with them they come and take you we used to hire contracts and do boys pretty good for you for you so what do we all think so we have that we also have a quote for the radar as well so and that's going to be your and then we have this radar too right so the movable radar system is roughly $11,000 you know is that the same system as we got from what's the name of the company works works here this is the one that the sheriff's department recommended right okay it's a different type of it but along the same lines okay okay so what and that was roughly the same it was roughly the same right so that's I guess we don't need to decide exactly that tonight but between 10 and 11,000 we can count on for one of those machines we have $20,000 in that budget so what do we say $200 a week is what this was coming out to was that right so how many weeks 24 weeks it's not even that at this point I'm 200 so that's how much is that $5,000 so we should have to January 1st to the end of the year that's what I thought So we should have enough money to do it, sign this, see what that looks like, and then we have the remainder to spend on our other speed sources, which I think we can cover that, and one of these. Yeah, there's no cost to the state on this. Yeah, just I mean, we're happy that we can do that. Yeah, I'm impressed. A couple hundred bucks, I think it would do that, including the guy's time. Yeah. And I do think, I mean, I think these machines are very effective, just based on my personal driving habits, and I see them like you just stole them out, and it's really an ad-recognition thing. So. Kind of taking up on the quote, is that the one that the sheriff was talking about, that it also records it, this model? I talked to a lady in Texas, that's where it comes from, they recommended, and she said she was going to put all the bells and whistles on the quote, you can build it to something that you want. Yeah. But it should have that completely. Oh, so we have to sort of figure that out. Yeah, I mean, there's several different things, but I would say that the traffic analysis app, with the thumb drive and the main rule, I would say that's exactly what we were talking about. Is that what it is? The solo trailer is 800, you know, I'm going to, there's all sorts of add-ons. But I guess the total isn't with everything. Yeah, the total is everything, but it's split out so you can pull it out. But yes, so what I think, and I'll work with Sasha, why don't we go over the rules for the two that we have and see what would make sense, and then come back here with a recommendation. But I would like to get this signed with the Sheriff's Department, get this out so we can get them patrolling as soon as possible. Where would we, it would be, when it's not in use, would just store it in the town garage? Yeah. Well, I mean, no, I agree. We could certainly be bringing it all in our town, you know, on the winter or something. Right, we don't want to get it exposed to salt and things like that, so we'll be careful about it. But it's still on. But pretty much, you know, somewhere that we can't... April to November, anyway. Yeah. And see how it goes. I mean, it can't, it certainly can't hurt. And it's funny, I also noticed that John Lynch did by himself a used police car. Oh, he did? Yeah. A police car? Well, that's what he's parked up there. Well, down, I just, I guess I went through behind, it was parked at these flowers. Oh. It was a new plate that they just purchased in a temporary plate. It was, you know, you look at it, it looks like a detective car. Oh, there you go. Definitely not that, so. But on the feedback, though, the feedback only really we share with the sheriffs that they look at the feedback. It's not like we're going to be looking at the feedback and seeing, oh, look at Tom on speeding by. Right, right, right, right. No, I don't think it's, it's not, it's not taking license plates either. No, it's not taking license plates either. It's just, on this day of the week, that way they... Yeah, that way we can tell. It doesn't even get a blanket. Car, vehicle. Right. And so... Oh, I see. I know what it is. So who, as far as having, we need to have that one touch point person with them over there. Where do we want to go with that? Who's going to be the person that makes the call? Right. Because they said they don't want one person. Which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I agree. Sasha? I'll find one. Yeah, I think it works well that way. You're here, fine, you know. You know, prior, you know, just, I think check with one of us, you know, you and I talk daily anyways, once or twice, just, you know, type of things that are going on there just so we are well aware. But if you want to be that person, I think that would work well. But is it the kind of thing that, like, anybody in town could call or they would bring it to the select board and say, oh, on such and such a road, this person, you know, every day is just zooming by. Yeah, I know what you're here for. So then we... It's not like Joe Smith can call a doctor. Oh, yeah. No, we're not looking for that. No, no, I understand. No, that happens. I mean, I think just the normal course of the way it works now, people call every once in a while and they'll get, because they usually have those people call me or John afterwards. And so we'll still take those calls, but we'll have Sasha coordinate. All right, you know, for this week, depending on what it is, you know, so you're not calling five times a week or, you know, you may not call them, you know, in a few weeks, but you kind of, all right, it's Thursday afternoon. Let me reach out to Lieutenant or whatever it is. And, you know, we can talk about that. So we'll go ahead and... So that'll start as soon as they get it signed? Yeah, we'll sign this tonight. Have Sasha send it off. And so I would, you know, it's not going to happen probably this week, but within the next couple of weeks, I think hopefully, and that's, you know, somewhere, maybe I will reach out to them initially just to sign the contract. What's the expectation of when you're starting? And Sasha's going to be our appointed person. And it's going to be anything e-mail to her, let it be that person, and then if there's something that the board needs to talk her or be aware of, then she will flag it and send it out to us. So if there's a given week that we don't tell them of a zone that we're concerned with, they just want to... Right. If we fail, they'll do a couple of hours here or something. Right. I think that will be more so what it is. And maybe when we start, you know, there may be some areas that will say, you know, Sasha, hey, why don't you make sure they're doing this. But, well, you know, let's let them do their job first. And then if we start seeing where we want or we feel there's a need, then we can reach out to them and ask them to address that. All right. So go ahead and do that. Nice. The other sign that we have is just a note of the scuba stuff. And that's an interest rate of what we've already encountered with this sign. I think that there might be something else. She wanted to know that you didn't talk to her about the loan. You can only pay for 22 grand because that's what they have to look for. Okay. So the remainder of the funds, we need to figure out where that's coming from. All right. And how much was that given? Okay. Difference of like $3,000 maybe. Okay. Well, maybe that's where... Just there. Stefan, there's a difference. Is that something maybe with your windfall with the tips? Is that something that maybe we could count on with that? I think it's around 3,000. Yeah. That could be something was it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I had a originally planned on just. Bearing it in, in my budget and like. In maintenance for the truck, but looking forward, I need to do some maintenance on the truck. So I don't know if I'll be able to bury it there, but yes, we can. We can. Yeah. If you did that, cause originally you thought you would put five towards it. This would be a little less. And that way you'd have more to do with your other activities. Yeah. That's what you wanted to do. Yeah. Absolutely. No, that's a. That's a good number. If Sasha can just send me an email with the, with the exact amount I can talk to the guys and, you know, make sure it's something that they're all okay with. For certain, but I'm, I have no doubt that it will. You know, it'll go through. Right. We'll take care of the other 22. Right. Perfect. All right. So. Pardon me. So now we have. Let's go down the. Here. Someone. Yeah. Right. Okay. So we had an opportunity meeting last Wednesday. And. I had told them that the set board was really looking forward to some. That's not estimates, but some. Indications or some direction. So if we wanted to put anything on the ballot. I remember first we could. So we did come up with some rough estimates. Or pretty much an agreement. We've already allocated to 50,000. So. There won't be any discussion about that. They didn't agree to like $100,000. $100,000. Select board discretion. Funding. To. For us to. Use as we thought. Appropriate to, you know, to keep the taxes. Within reason. Little items like. We talked about that bouncing to the budget or whatever. So. To me, it's pretty much an agreement of that. 100,000 for select board discretion. The town hall architect. We agreed to like a $30,000 number. And we did agree to the village sewer. Feasibility study, which it looks like we don't need balance. That was 30,000. So. We're meeting again next Wednesday, but. Those. Those are the items that we discussed them. You know, I had to bring up that. The two hands that came up the night, the water very ambulance. And the neck of the woods. I just, I didn't know, you know, if we wanted to get stuff on the ballot this year, but I think we could. What you're going to have to say, but I think we could, but. Yeah, I think the. I mean, the water, the water very ambulance, one of those almost like that discretionary that. Got about 100,000. The neck of the woods. I agree that should. Certainly be under. I'm glad that they've. Thought of that, but. And they asked for November 30th. I don't know. Certainly stop. So I'm not. I would say we put on the ballot. Yeah. I mean, I don't. I think it's. If it was ever going to be defeated, it would be in November, but even then I doubt it. So. I think that. Work. So we want to put the town hall architect. Work out for. Just go forward with that. Well, I was. I'm waiting. I think we got. Well, if you want me to get into the show. Yeah, that's fine. I didn't know. Okay. Okay, so. In the answer to your question, right? I think we hopefully could make the decision. And as the select board and move forward. Based on the RFP and the scheduling. To have the architect and the. The whole schematic design process. With. Are all our participation as they develop. And there's key dates. As you know, as they go forward. Showing taking what we'll all put together. We've come up with and then putting it together. So we decide. And then eventually they're going to not eventually. Schedule would be that by. Into November in December, we would have. A construction cost estimate. So that we can then look at. Town meeting and what we would put up in the. You know, town meeting for people to vote on. What we could get for grants and all that. So. My take on it would be not to wait till on November 1st. So. Like, hey, can we do this? Because if we do then we'll just. The firm can't start unless we. Tell them to start and then. Get the money in November. Which I don't know if you could do that. Do you have a do you have a dollar amount? Yeah, I do. So we did this whole day in process. We ended up with two two proposals. And we had four people. Clark. Glory. Collard myself and we did a. Everybody read it without looking at the proposals. And we did a scoring. A vetting system. And then we looked at the proposals. As we did the vetting, we actually selected the firm that. Came in with the lower, you know, the lower price without knowing. And then we looked at the proposals. And then we looked at the proposals. The lower price without knowing that. At first. And so we got a price for. 22902. Which includes. $8500. And allowances. To, you know, do some of the mechanical and the site work. And what a mitigation studies. And. And also to. One of the fees in that allowances. Higher construction estimator. So once we have the final design. Of what we've all picked. We can then have it. Estimated so that we can see what the cost. So. You can vote. So. Yeah, I would. I would be great. You know, I spoke to the firm. The two firms to let her know where we were at. And we'll be discussing it tonight. And then the IA was. The firm that we selected. But, you know, I still needed to. To get approved. And. To that. You know, just to. Because then they'll need to. For a contract. Insurance. So. I would. I think all of you have been sent the proposals. I mean, I can really. Email it to you. But. It's quite a great proposal. I think we've worked in another. A number of towns. On town halls and community buildings. I think it's going to be great that. Yeah, if we could. If we're allowed, if we can. Do that and vote on it and get this thing going. I think we'd be doing a great. Great thing for our community. Because. The town hall certainly needs some help. I agree. I think. I think we need to make this step. We need to go forward with the town hall. For. One of the other. To do that. I would support. Going forward with. Architect as you. Selected. No, I think that's. Our last. Chat about this we need to figure this one out. Whether it's. A big no at the end. Or at halfway. You know. So it just needs to be done. We're fortunate that we have these funds. I've been able to do it. I mean, we all have. Which is a lot of money. I'm not saying so. Half a million. You know, now the hands are coming out for. I think you're all. We've had legitimate requests for this stuff. I think this one serves the town well. So I would certainly support this. Now. Now. Okay. Kelly, what's your thought? Yeah. It's different. All right. Go ahead and make a. A motion on that. Make a motion that. The. Is via. To. As where they are. To follow the schedule that we have. I'm not going to come up with. Design and. Cost. Design menu and costs. But. John seconds that. You further discussion on it. Anybody and seeing none. All in favor. All right. So. Okay, that was our funds. Do we have any other discussion on the. I think we should look at putting at least 100,000 aside for a fire truck to help with some of that cost because I kind of kicked the cane down or over this fire truck. It's on the tanker. Yeah, at least a year. Yeah, so that's why it has to be done. He's, Stefan's going to be here next, meeting where we get time on the schedule for that. So why don't we on that one? But I think for the community to bring it up because that's going to be a big thing. Coming down then needs to be done. Yes, it's two years down until when you order it, so two years before we get it. Today, I was discussing whether the rough prices are between $450,000 or something like that. Doesn't fly either. So I don't know. But I think Ray is going to bring that up to your ARPA. I think Stefan's going to be at that meeting as well. He missed the last one, but he's going to be there. So that was going to be on his thoughts there. Any other ARPA funds stuff that we've done? All right. Actually, none are requested. Karen, yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, thank you. So it has come to my attention that there is no database to track zoning in Moortown. And Moortown is one of the last municipalities in Vermont to not have that. And tracking it in the way we do is pretty antiquated, I would say. And I noticed that before my time, a lot of organization was lost. And I'm trying to put that back together. And I know the last thing you want to hear from your CA, who's been there a month, is to spend more money on zoning. But I do think it would be a major upgrade. And ARPA funds are good use to do that. That being said, I have not done the research to myself at this point to throw out figures for that. But I would be willing to do that effort, if that's something that the Select Board was interested in entertaining. I think what I'd like to maybe in our next meeting, or it doesn't have to be your next meeting, a little bit about what that is. And then we're going into our budget season anyways. And so whether it's ARPA funds next year, we use for it, because that's appropriate for something. Or whether it's just something we decide we need to put in the budget. So I guess that's the long answer to the short end. Yes, go ahead and research it. Find out what type of cost something like that is. And then the benefit for the town. So we know, and it sounds like you've said organization and things won't be lost and such. So we'll expand on that a little bit. And it's something we can certainly discuss and work on. All right, so we'll go ahead and move on. Is there anything in the legal trails that we have? I think there's anything that we're addressed tonight? Condensation, blinking lights, we've got that. Well, what kind of session is that? I've got a contract to look me out of this, and there he's working on it. I was touch-basically today, and he said he's getting close. It's tough to, well, we all know what's going on out there. And you've got the work for the blinking light gone, right? Yeah, I'm pretty all set. And I've talked to emails with different people in the state. And I've got the rough draft, so maybe I can bring it in and have it typed up by the team here. But before I did that, I was waiting just to go see Martin and just show him what we got, and go through it with him, and make sure we're all good. And then we could send it into the state. He's on holiday, and last week, he was way too busy for me. All right, I appreciate that, and thank you for having him. That's going to be good. So the stormwater project, we heard about that. We've got that move in the town hall management plan. We possibly have our next meeting. We can make some decisions on that. Take the document, we'll get home. One of the things that came up this step on mentioned is snow removal. Think about that. Collaboration, and we'll work with Sasha on that, but to get this planning commission and the DRB together with us to discuss ongoing issues with the town. Robert Pitts, Don here, anything? No, that's another item I'm working on with Martin and the team there. Some day, when they were not too crazy, I was going to go, well, they had a lunch, because we had a rough drawing that they've had and looked at that we before would bring it to the board. We wanted to go, so I'm hoping that one of these days, I could just pop in at lunchtime or something. Or bring them coffee some morning. Yeah, or coffee, or donuts or something. Yeah, food usually will get people together. Yeah, there we go, food. All right, it's time. We're going to eat a little bit. Yeah, OK. I know the ones that have the big picture of those guys, man. Get everything put into place, then. I had some of those days, and it was so good. The big picture was awesome. The girls were home, and they're like, we've got to get those. And so they were here. I haven't heard about them, so I'll bring them down and get some if I do. No, we get it, so you're OK. The only thing they did for two years was when we broke it, wasn't doing it. So they've got that down until you look at me. I mean, anyways, Sasha, why don't we come up with the dash cams here? And Martin. Yeah, I am talking about Martin. Martin is supposed to be pursuing the holding on that. All right, so that one's. And we're going to talk with Sherilyn about the River Road Paving Projects. All right, I also have police coverage down that road down for business. So we've addressed that. What else do we have folks who would like to go over tonight? I just want to mention that I did like that. Martin, you put on vacation. You'd want, I'm sorry. No, we've got it in Jersey. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Taking all that road. I'm still trying to figure out the whole process, so I don't have much to report, but I am pursuing that to figure out what needs to be done. Perfect. The big issue with me was I don't know, as far as the right of way, whether they have to provide a drawing with all of the easements from all of the, every problem you're going to have for us to get the road, you know, which is going to be pretty expensive for them. I don't know, so I'm trying to figure that out, you know, what the whole process is for them. I don't think that part of them will be pretty expensive for them to try to get to us when we're older. Right, we don't have that much. Sounds easy. Yeah, it's not. Sasha, so let's have that on the whole business so we don't forget that. Galler-Rakers, yeah, that's right. Dolan, did you have anything else to say? No, there's two other little quick things, which is Ray and I were looking at this. You know, we have some leaking at the elevator at the town hall. And I think it's because the door is kind of rusted. It's just coming right in with the door. I don't think there's ever a guy on that building. Well, I see it. I see it. Do you want to break the record out there? Yeah, there was. But now we're going to address that. But in the meantime, because now we're going to get this thing going and see what we have to do. What I was thinking about, I went over there another time with Corey, is that for now, maybe if we just put the dehumidifier in that corner down there with this. Because it's not a lot of moisture. It's just because we don't get a lot of rain. And run the dehumidifier and just have it that Megan, or myself, or Corey, or whatever, we can just be on top of emptying it a little more. That would, I think, help while we get organized. So I was just going to suggest, I don't know how we can. Why don't you talk to Sasha? We'll talk to Megan. And you guys figure that out. OK. That's all. Perfect. And one of the little risks is a really good one. Just there's a map. There's a map on the porch, and then a map when you walk in the door. And then probably 15 years old, they're really all torn and worn. They don't even do anything. Because if you want to get out of it. So do you think those can, how could we purchase two new mats to let them town off? You think? I think. Why don't you get, first of all, if they're doing what they're not doing, you know, get rid of them, and get the sizes that you need, and then check up with these guys. And make sure you, when you are looking at something, you get something that is nice and durable. You spend $40 to get something probably decent. Yeah. But yes. Everyone else any other old business? Is there any drain or anything at the similar to not going to be too much drain? No. No. OK. I don't think there's a drain or not, too. No. I hear you. No. OK. Seems like we would. All right. So we do have a curb cut here over on the south side of Warton, near McGinnon's Road. And overweight permit for Durand Love. Another one for Durand Love and bacon permit. In the notes, three times. Please. Oops. Don't do that with it, right? Sasha here is this contract for the share of the job. And Sasha will have to look at that with some numbers at the end of that. So. So. No. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. Thank you, Ray. All the best.