 everybody and thank you for joining us again for another Wednesday reveal. We have Michael Lacapo again below me and then we have Karen who was his amazing captain for this week. Good to see you all. Okay and to begin with I'm gonna go ahead and give just a little bit of information about wiki tree and then we're gonna dive right in because I'll tell you what this team just went crazy getting everything done this week they were incredible incredible up to the last minute so for anybody that is new out there wiki tree is a community of genealogists who are working together on a single family tree so in other words we collaborate to make an accurate global tree that connects us all and it's free now the wiki tree challenge has been our year-long event and part of our year of accuracy where we have taken a guest star every week and we've had our team members work on their tree to make them as accurate and complete as we possibly can and hopefully more so than anywhere else so once again we have Karen as our captain this week and she's going to give you a little bit of information about well a lot of information really about Michael's tree that's right we had some fun this week it was we're proud of our collaboration and our international team but this week it really showed well I'm a mutt so you got you got Italy you got Switzerland you got Germany you got like so I knew it was a choose from you were actually called NATO at one point this week yes and it you know it wasn't intentional but we're highlighting a couple of countries here because it was really fun to watch a little bit of the race between the Italian experts and the German experts they were kind of sprinting past each other one would get ahead and they were knocking down brick walls just like champions so it's fun to see whether the whether we were finding more there you know with the Germans or the Italians and so we looked at each of your eight great grandparents and kind of that's how we keep ourselves organized and with the lack of pose in the which were the Italian part of your tree branches there were some new parents found for Camelo Romeo and in the marriage record she married Francesco Trion Berry and it lists her parents were Bruno and Elisabetta Caruso who were both alive when she married Bruno we found was born about 1764 and he lived all the way to about 80 which pretty impressive for that time period his wife Elisabetta Caruso was 72 when she died so those were two new ancestors we found there and we really did go nuts with with the lack of pole lines they they kind of exploded outward Chris Ferriolo and our Italian project they got to flex their muscle and show off all of their research skills and we find ourselves with 17 new ancestors in this part of your tree and when you wander through the branches you'll see several lack of pole lines with all of this family coming out of garage it was we knew we were going to find common names common ancestors and we learned that 10 years ago there were only 1043 people in garage and places like San Giovanni de garage where most of the lack of pose were coming from there were only like 577 residents there in 2004 and unlike other parts of Europe with all of the net migration the population is just is not going up in this area and we just learned a little bit about a garage that it sits on this conglomerate of kind of a rocky shaped plateau and had big harbor walls and was all enclosed in like a fortress with with a castle dominating the northern area and all of these artifacts of the noble buildings that are out on the main arteries and in the squares of the city there are just majestic portals with coats of arms of the house that's engraved and just lacquered by balconies that open up into open courtyards and gardens and churches so we all want to go to garage now to see the churches and the palaces with all the windows and portals made by the stone cutters and and all the tangling streets and LA's and it was just neat to learn about how you've got all this urban texture and just centuries of history history being embraced but still being a modern city yeah and they they they didn't wander away they you keep there in Georgia from you know early early early and they just continue down that line so it's great for genealogists you much too much right yeah because the history is there and maybe some of the children have to move away but but the families still are there yeah so that power of that single place so when we're researching sometimes this was a week of like but wait let's think about this again when we limit ourselves to just a week instead of a lifetime of research we make discoveries but then we look at a branch again and we change it and go in a different direction we found records that made it look like we had some paternal grandparents for a dominico lagapo and Anna Maria let it's ya putchi and this would have made different parents for dominico Micaela and Dominic Michael than what you had and then like 17 ancestors on that line and then further research supported Pasquale la copa and Maria Teresa la copa la copa as the correct parents yeah so then the original line attached went back to Nikola and and then we found that we had some descendants from a different child that wasn't your Dominico wasn't your ancestor but we still wound up with 10 new ancestors and Mindy do you have any more even last minute updates or thoughts on this since it's been changing you know really there's there's just some incredible work once again done by the Italy project and Michael both lines have actually been documented now that second line that was initially thought to be Teresa's grandparents is actually a descendant a cousin's descendant coming off of Nikola higher up yeah I've got three or four different la copa lines and the two of them come from Nikola yeah right you have four of them and you know we thought we had it narrowed down to three so they were kind of excited about that part you know and then they went oh wait a minute but now we have these records so I think he was right and we need to put it back but you know that happens I mean that you know that's just part of researching and lots and lots of la copos and not a lot of originality of names all Antonio's and Giuseppe's yeah that there they can be tough to sort out but that's a lot of work in a week I mean I mean even though you're in the same place it's like you find one marriage it means you have to go back to the births and then you have to go back to the death you go back to marriage and like it's a lot of back and forth that's fantastic yeah there were hours and hours spent looking through these through these records so pretty amazing yeah fantastic sure and and on the same line we know we were looking at Teresa and your second great-grandmother her last child was a daughter Katarina who was born in 1903 in Gorache her birth was reported by a midwife because Bruno Antonio was in America at the time he traveled back and forth so you know a lot of times to America and so he rarely was the informant for his other children you know and last two or maybe the three he was in America so yeah he came back that's enough to you know make a new child I know and it was surprising though to see the mother's name on the records you know the midwife as you know was for the youngest daughter but the other ones they had the mother as the informant and you're like wow okay why is the woman why is the woman's name in there so many times yeah I did the count on one of them I was looking at some of the Italian projects work in Chris's work Chris Ferriero he's been just awesome this week it's we see people talking about in the chat and I went okay so wait a minute Chris how often did he go back and forth because when he went to America on that trip ten months later his child was born so I guess he hopped hopped back and went back you know I mean it's all documented so and that was common for Italian immigrants they were they were called birds of passage they went back and forth mostly to make money and even looking at Dominic in the in the south bend papers he was you know up to the outbreak of World War one he's like oh I'm gonna open a store and I'm in a wholesale spaghetti and olive oil direct from Italy so you know they were going back there all the time and bringing products to try to introduce so we left as while everyone was going nuts on Lockapo we looked at Helen Marie Warner's lines and just in the last day we have proven parents for Christian Wolf your fifth great-grandfather and found that his father was Peter Wolf and his mother Elizabeth Riezer so that's that's an error that's been recopied over again yeah because it's Peter's nephew Peter married in Elizabeth Kaiser and that is a misreading for the wrong Peter in a wrong record so that's been but it's been written over and over and over and over again okay so so we did the same thing you know we almost find ourselves doing it with other branches and and so that will be interesting and it'd be great to be in dialogue and collaborate in and go well here's to look at where you turn that aside you know it went in a different direction and what made you choose not to accept Peter and Peter and Elizabeth yes it currently Elizabeth's maiden name is unknown so okay do not know who she is but I know it's not research so I know where that went wrong because a cousin of mine wrote a book and she mis misrepresented or misinterpreted a record and it was actually for the nephew Peter who married a Kaiser which is a script which she read as Riser so you know I know how that domino effect happens so so do we have so the Peter from 1740 in Bethel Township yeah he's your guy one who lived in Pitt Township in Allegheny yep yeah yeah yeah so we've got the five five children on the will and then what we should get together on is is Elizabeth and how she turned up and whether we can convince you that we've got it or whether like no no that needs to be dismissed and that's the fun of burning through all this in a week yeah yeah we've got some great volunteers who transcribe wills for us and enjoy doing that which boy looking at some of the handwriting we saw this week that's not my favorite so we know that when his will was proved and so we know obviously he died before probate probate and we've got that full transcription on the profile so so we can go and look at that so we on the Ruth Sats line how do you say it Ruth Sats yeah so this is where we talked about our international experts and Dieter Lieberins is certainly a great one to have on the German lines and he went full steam ahead on on this line which is reaching all the way to Johann Heinrich Hohmann born before 1743 a six great-grandfather his son's marriage record it was pretty hard to read but it was clear that his father was Johann Heinrich and that the wife's father was oh his wife was the oldest daughter of of Heineken there's and so here we've got 13 new folks that we've added in Germany to this line so that was really fun and I love that the German records sorry I love that the German records mentioned stuff like that you know that's not something you find in the US records like where they'll say second son of or you know the the oldest daughter or things like that whether the parents were living those extra bits of information that kind of help you understand the family dynamics and I've worked with those church records in Bergdorf and they are horrible to read well it looks a little clearer when we left Ruth Sats and Ruth Sats and looked at swarm on clear as line and now am I skipping a slide no there we go and and here we had some breakthroughs on a Swiss line so we found the baptism of Katharina Charlotte Moser who became Mrs. Nussbaum and her parents were Johannes or Jean on the French side Moser and Katharina Hommel Jean and Katharina had six children and they were always on a mountain it seemed like they were in the mountains or observe the day and then they were in the mountains of Perry Sortenheim Bevelard where we've last found them in 1811 so we know Johannes died after 1811 and on this line we were looking at the Nussbaum's from the mother we had connected Mary Emmeline Nussbaum's parents pretty early in the week but not very solidly proven and so that came as we kept digging in and we we you know we we knew that that it was felt that it was Christian Nussbaum and Rhoda Leida who were the parents and we're able to prove that and that Christians parents were Jacob and Catherine Moser and and then we proved Catherine's parents the Mosers and then we have some possible parents attached to Jacob that that Johannes and Anna Lehman that we'll have to look more closely at no that's all right yeah cool yeah so at least we agree or work we're we're both right or both wrong together and on the Schwarm side we looked at Frederica Caroline the wife of Heinrich and she was born in all sense in 1803 and that's called Rhineland Falks now the Rhineland Palatinate and Frederica was the daughter of Friedrich Schwarmann he was a shoemaker and Christina Weinal was Friedrich's wife and Friedrich's grandfather was also a shoemaker and he was the godparent at her baptism and the the unknown there the on the back side so David Winnell's wife was Anna Marguerite the Schwarm so Schwarm's been old Schwarm's been old so it's like it's like the Lockebo family like they just keep intermarrying yeah so you feel that you've got Schwarm on both sides there Schwarm's made Schwarm's and Winnell's marrying Schwarm's and Schwarm's marrying others so yeah it's yeah I'm deeply inter-interconnect connected to myself nice I redoubt a dirty we didn't we didn't really smash walls here we enjoyed learning about your great aunt Lillian and her notability that her authorship of this series of books that she traveled and lectured read for Lighthouse of the Blind many other things like myself she was a member of Mensa and and that so did you know her well so she lived it was actually a kind of a joke because my my grandfather would he would say oh you know Lillian was a member of Mensa and I'm like yeah you mentioned before he goes well I thought I would say it first because she says it every time she talks to someone that's hilarious yeah I'm like I'm kind of like the member of the club that I don't know why that they let me in but I'm a member too and I got it my essay so it's like it was just yeah sneak in really really easy so right yeah if you did well when you were 16 whether we're still smart now we looked at William Timmons and and you told us we were gonna find criminals there was some criminal element but it was the victim so Ada Young Keeser who was your great-grandfather second wife Josiah second wife she was murdered so she took a lover named Martin Greiner after Josiah died and Martin was had a whole dump you know murder suicide planned for for Ada and himself he did shoot himself in the head but lived on for several days after after the attempt I gave a lecture once and just randomly I had a descendant of Martin Greiner in the audience oh wow and he was featured in your lecture so we we went on to the Timmons branches and really struggled to add and find sources there we spent some time on the Dawson's and we we were going down the garden path again we you know latched on to that idea that he was in that 7th Pennsylvania and then we were like but wait but no he really only he signed an oath of allegiance which is how my DA our Patriot joined from southern Indiana a Frenchman who who signed an oath of allegiance in Vincennes and and so Edward and we believe his father is also Edward and they both signed the oaths of allegiance in Washington County Maryland in 1788 and that's documented and sourced on the profile from those revolutionary records of Maryland that that I've just blanked on the names of the two two folks that edited those and we wrote up his migration to Ohio on the profile where they sold their land in Ohio and then moved on to what to you know County there by Purdue right for just just a couple of years before Edward passed away so that confusion again you know confusing that Edward Dawson was it Dawson was it Davidson was the soldier no Dawson was the one who supported the cause by signing the oath and and we looked at you've got 16 cousins in DAR from Edward because you don't have to fight to be a Patriot and in these organizations one of the the DAR members under Edward Dawson is the late mother of one of our wiki tree members named Jean a fifth cousin of yours okay yeah so so and Jean's a DNA tester so so we don't match that many of our fifth cousins but maybe you'll you'll match up with yeah it's a good point because many for a long time he was considered a soldier in the 7th Pennsylvania line which was based on 1930s DAR application right Aronius so I actually spent a lot of time writing up a paper disproving that's who he was yeah and and now when you look on the on the DAR records for him they don't read the word about Pennsylvania I actually submitted it to the National Society so they could fix it yeah that's part of genealogy too is fixing yeah and luckily since he signed that oath they didn't have to kick those I felt better about that I didn't want my old lady storing my house so right or or not so old ladies like me yeah and we looked at Eddie Knowles and and the and we looked at the Knowles in the few gates really closely scrutinizing them this week and we found that that a great great aunt Sarah Knowles Yeoman and and your fourth great-grandfather John Knowles were were heavily involved in founding Rensselaer where St. Joseph's College was and the St. Joseph's Church is probably also connected with the Indian Normal School that was there for many years and so so we found you know that the Knowles and Yeoman's were were pioneers of and organizers of of Rensselaer yeah David David now is supposed to be the first white child born in Jasper County and the name of this town got what became Rensselaer because I think it was Steven Van Rensselaer one of the van Rensselaer's came from New York with a land patent that was on the land the Knowles were squatting on so the Knowles got kicked off the Rensselaer's took it over and so it's not called Knowlesville yeah that was about halfway to Purdue from from my house yeah well those are the the eight great grandparents and all the family lines we looked at it was a big week with a lot of participation so Mindy is the queen of the fan charts and she can tell us about what your tree looks like now at the end of the week on wiki tree and how all our wiki trees did all right and before we do that I'm going to touch on just briefly and of course Michael you mentioned how difficult some of the records are you already know from here's a research on your family but for those that didn't this is what you know they faced as far as some of the Italian records and with any research there's often challenges deciphering these you can see one on the upper left that it actually doesn't show as much there but it's pretty legible but there are other ones that were really they had big ink blotches they had water damage they had sections of the pages missing and you know our people will get together so several of them sometimes and change the contrast doing everything they could you know I'll get together and chat about it that collaboration part coming together and I'm sorry there's some in there are half eaten by rats like there's half this thing yeah yeah so and of course with that area we can't just go to family search or go to this or go check on ancestry or check somewhere else you know you either have Antonati or you have nothing and so if you go to Antonati and it's all you know blotch up water damaged or what not you know then you don't have those other records like the church records to fall back on to try and look though that information up so my hats off to all of our researchers yeah and then actually Karen I'll let you do this one before I do the fan charts yeah we really enjoy learning our history and that always includes military history so so we like to document those who served or landed aid to the cause you know so we saw the Daniel families in Virginia and again like we looked at Thomas Daniel and there's definitely a Virginia seaman from Virginia serving on board ship and there's a Thomas Daniel who made a public service claim that he should be paid back for the over $500 of supplies that and services he made to the cause so so here comes I do the dog to participate she said so well you know need to look at like like we believe that that Thomas rendered aid to the revolution and that his son Charles provided supplies we know and again Edward Dawson and and at the elder Edward both took the took the O's and we found the Jacob Beavers at your fifth great-grandfather serving in the war of 1812 and just the sheer numbers of people involved in the the Civil War you know that that Jacob Warner serving in both Pennsylvania and then also being affiliated with an Indiana unit a bit later in the war Andrew Wolfe third-grade grandfather serving out of Ohio and lost a son no lost a brother George who was killed in action near Raleigh in North Carolina John Stover died from typhoid the deaths from disease and an infection and illness you know took took so many as well a cousin who served out of Indiana from the Yeoman family and William Laquat we did died at the Marine Hospital at Mobile Mobile in Alabama and then coming all the way into World War one with Dominic and noticing how he had to go register for the draft even though he wasn't even a citizen you know he had had even been naturalized and it but then he did serve in 1918 I think from June or July and and then was discharged like four days after Armistice Day he never went overseas and he got his naturalization easier for aliens of naturalized based on military service so in 1922 based on a service he got streamlined passage to naturalization right which was great but then 20 years later just imagine the fear of them coming back out you for the old man's draft you know and and so so he had to register in 1942 and and wonder you know are they really gonna come after the 47 year olds to serve when when World War two was lingering on yes so so everybody gets gets the little we call them stickers you know when you're making a note about someone being a patriot according to a society or a member or or service or just their ethnicity highlighting roots from Germany or or Italy or Switzerland we enjoy highlighting all of these historical notes on our ancestors on the tree well how did we do with the great big tree chart Mindy we did pretty good we started out now this is what I used for reference of course I have to have something to mark where the available brick walls are so according to Michael's own research everywhere that you see the yellow portions out there most of it out on the ninth generation so his research is you know really solid I'm getting out up to eight every one of those yellow spots is in possible brick wall ancestor now we have added ancestors beyond that point on many of the lines but we only count the very first one on each line as an actual brick wall ancestor and then as you can see in the pop up out to the right what all those little dots are on there or that's where I've marked it so a lot of the discoveries were focused on the paternal grandfather side of course and in that first one fourth of the tree but you know people worked so hard this week on all of it it just really was incredible to watch and for everybody out there I'll show you this is what we started with this week so now there are the great grandparents that we talked about we don't work we never on the challenge work closer than that than the great grandparents for privacy reasons but that is what we started with sometimes we have a guess they come on a little bit of their trees already on wiki tree we started fresh which is kind of nice and then this is what we ended up with so once again you can see you know the explosions of work on the paternal side of the fan chart but also in all kinds of places over on the maternal site and you know I'd like to thank our researchers this week because we had some incredible help from the Italian project once again and then you know we talked about how amazing our German help was and behind the scenes though there was also really really great research done on Michael's mother side and you know that isn't reflected as much on the brick wall chart as what a bounding point would be you know our brick wall ancestor but people spent hours and hours this week researching some of those that you know Michael's already researched but we wanted to see if we could just push it even one generation beyond and one of the great things about wiki tree is we have that beautiful white space on the profile so you know Michael you'll see where people have left extensive notes on some of these so that you know where they looked what they're you know how they determined something if they did make a decision on anything but each one of these profiles that you see on this chart represents this total amazing effort this week and you know hopefully some of those notes will help you take down even more brick walls in the future who's the Italian guy Chris Chris Ferriero I'm kidnapping him and we're gonna go to Italy and get the cheer trackers from that sounds good I think you have a couple of people from the Italy project which would love to go to they're all gonna be climbing into the suitcase I really want to call my father come from a common ancestor and I want a wide DNA study but I already have too many DNA studies pending I'm like spent I spent all my money on books and DNA so right and of course the civil registration didn't start until 1809 which is really quite late as far as research goes and so you just don't have those unless you can get back there and actually go in the churches and look at the registers and hope they're intact the nice thing I think Chris saw from what I saw on the chart is that you know the when they got married they had to have permission from the father's if the father wasn't alive they had to prove his death and if the if the father's died they had to get permission from the paternal grandfather he's died he died to prove his death too so really even though the record start in the early 1800s you can really get those little hints back to the mid 1700s so you know those records are fantastic but yeah you need to break in those church records and I have too many loco pose I need to unravel so yeah I'll tell you what we were saying the same thing and Chris definitely was saying the same thing it was just the curiosity was just getting to him this week he says I want to be able to connect all these lines and you go for it but you know unfortunately we only got so far just like you only got so far they got back as far as the available online records would let us really fun I know I learned a lot in you know trying to decipher I learned how to decipher who the parents were and what some of the terminology was and really you're our first guest all year amazingly enough that has this strong Italian ancestry so it's something to do yeah so you know this was the Italian team yeah this was our first opportunity to actually learn about the Italian records and you know watch that project and action and it was really great it was a lot of fun I know they worked you know some of them are on the clock and I know there are a few of them that are going to continue this week since we will be having a break week and they're really excited about being able to push those lines just a little bit further even though they aren't going to get the points for it which will lead us into the next topic and that of course is our collaboration and scoring so collaboration is key during the challenge and really that's what wiki tree is all about anyways but it's great to see people galvanized and see it in action now when you get 25 or even up to 40 or 50 people working on a tree you know a set of branches it's really easy to trip over somebody or research something that's already being researched and you know when your efforts can be best bet elsewhere so on the left you see the spreadsheet we use and that's where we go in and hopefully put the profile we're working on when we move up to the parents or move down to the children whichever way in our research we try and change that so other people know not to work on that specific profile on the right you see the g2g post and Michael you will get a link to this as well as some other stuff and that's where we claim bounty points and you know other discoveries or questions unfortunately not a lot of it went into that this week but there are some great comments and some good information out there so it it's really good and then discord now this is our big way this is our live chat platform that we're using right now and I tell you what it has just been an incredible thing for us this week an incredible tool to use since we are a global site we have people that chat in the challenge rooms around the clock there's always somebody that's up in the world somewhere researching and so you know you can come in in the morning and sip your morning coffee and read back and see what the England people were doing or you know the German experts we're working at and kind of catch yourself up now you know we also do things like ask for help in there you know we may want a will transcribe one of our members Steven is so awesome at those will transcriptions really patient and you know we may be looking for an article a lot of it this week was looking at those old records and people would go okay now everybody this is the one I'm trying to read the name on what's the spelling you know and six people would jump on it and put in their input and then you know try to come to a consensus on what it might be and so you know there there's nowhere else in the world that you have that kind of a resource available that that we have with this challenge and it really makes a huge difference to be able to reach out to you know 10 people at one time and and just go okay everybody stop what you're doing and help me and they do just really amazing now of course while it's not all about the points we do have a point system that not only helps keep us motivated but it also gives you a way to kind of track your progress and see how you're doing and it's really been interesting to see over the year how that balance is kind of changes depending on what the challenges are for that specific tree now we have two ways to earn points we have once again those bounty points that's the big one that's for the first brick wall ancestor we get to on any line and the person that discovers that and creates the profile improves it gets 10 points for that person we also have the individual points and some weeks that was really out of you know I didn't see that as much in your family branches as far as in the Italian and the German ones you know you didn't have the big like 10 15 kids like like we've seen some weeks and while Dieter is just amazing at finding the German children I know of the Italian records they really really had a hard time because they'd sit there and have to flip through you know 20 years of registers to see if there were any more children and you get all the way through that and you have like okay he had three kids and then you go to the next couple rinse and repeat you do the same thing all over again so very time-consuming and much harder I think for the people that worked on the Italian branches to get those those individual points and you know that on top of it as Karen had mentioned we had that really fun kind of back and forth between the German experts and our Italian experts so you know Germany was ahead for most of the week Italy kept sneaking in there and they leapfrog over and they'd be like aha we just got you know four new ancestors woohoo and then pretty soon Germany would quietly come in and go okay so did we so it just was amazing and you know I look at two things when I do this I look at the top five and I'm gonna go ahead and read those off of course Dieter Lieberens is our German expert and he was in the top slot this week all week pretty much him and Chris Ferriero now as far as bounty points though they went back and forth and I have to say the last time I checked they were actually tied which was amazing and all of that happened like right at the last hour before the live cast started so it just was incredible to watch them continue you know to plug hard at those lines now Kathy Ravenstein worked on also worked on some of the German lines and worked on some of the United States research and did a great job out there Melanie McComb of course is a prior guest and she has just been awesome as a participant and she was up there with the top five and then the fifth one would be our Maddie Hardman who's just amazing it seems like no matter what location we throw out or Maddie can get in there and do something with it and so now I'm gonna go ahead and we're gonna take a look at what those scores actually wound up being so the first column for total points and of course there you see Dieter and Chris at the top now the total points Dieter nobody was catching him this week he was just he was the man total points though for entire participants was 920 points now we also had things that they didn't get points for so you know there's a wonderful space page that's that's linked that had kind of a mini one named study done with some really incredible research and you know there's peripheral relatives that people looked at you know just to make sure they could rule something out or to try and figure out why somebody was in a household they shouldn't have been you know trying to connect cousins they don't get points for any of that what they get points for are those bounty points and those direct ancestors and then the just the nuclear relatives so within one step you know children siblings if you add those you get a point so at any rate we had 920 total points now we had 400 and what was it 441 on the total ancestors and 175 of those were direct so those are all direct ancestors to you now of course Michael had some of those on the tree on your own tree to begin with but you know we count everything that gets added from the start of the challenge just to keep track of where we're at and then 305 of those nuclear relatives so I mean once again I know there's a lot of people working on it but that many profiles created in a week it just blows your mind to think of how much work goes into that you know and actually sourcing them and then the next number is the big one now course bounty points and you see the Deeter and Chris are tied at the top 130 each so that's 13 brick walls they each took down and then all together we are at an amazing 440 and another unique thing that we had this week is that we actually had 12 different bounty hunters this week and I know that doesn't sound like a big number you know but once again a lot of our participants are backfilling stuff some of them are filling out those lines that we already knew about some of those are working on space pages some of those are doing things like the transcriptions you know there's a lot of things that get done that aren't bounty points that people are doing and it takes a team you know just like it takes a village it takes all of them and it's all equally important so the fact that we had actually 12 of them that pushed through those boundaries and hit brick walls it was just really really amazing they did a great job and then the lot final two numbers we had 796 unique profiles were edited so in one week's time it just crazy and then overall when we go in and we work on a profile and we add a date we add a source we fix a name that's called a contribution on on wiki tree in our system automatically keeps track of that and you know this is only for the ancestors that counted so those direct ancestors or nuclear relatives this isn't even counting the edits on everything else and still people made over 3000 edits to your branches so you know that every time I think that they they can't impress me anymore than what they already have then they do something like this again you know it's it's just amazing so how do you feel like we did that's an incredible amount of excuse me an incredible amount of research and information in a week especially even you know like the Italian lines you know that I've spent hours pouring over those those civil records and it's it's a lot of work to extracting those especially you know even though you're working with us you know a single record set in a single location like I mentioned it's like there's if I look at my database I've got like something like you know 27 Domenico a lacquapose and like 15 Michelin and you know and like 14 Giuseppes and it makes your head completely you're just like I need a break it's like I need to stop because I'm see my head spinning and then like you know the German right I mean it's a lot of work in a week so that's really impressive yeah that's fantastic and I think having all those collateral relatives in there is great cousin bait you know to have a tree that you can just send someone one URL and they can look at it and you don't have to sign up for anything you know and and and you can see how how it evolves so it's it's peer reviewed research basically and being able to tie in the the DNA testers really fun for those of us who are and to just find like oh I didn't realize that there's a why tester on my Dawson line you know I there's a Mr. Dawson you know on wiki tree and he's his tree connects to your Dawson branches and so then you get to know the why DNA hopefully of an ancestor who didn't give you your wife so yeah yeah that's fantastic yeah I can't I can't even count anymore in the time I've been on wiki tree how many cousins I've had reach out to me you know and they'll say oh I see your name was on this profile that I haven't even looked at in like three years and they're like how are you related this is how I'm related hey let's exchange notes and you know it's just a great way to get that kind of information and draw those people in without even having to do anything you know those right there or on a bbs like in the 90s going lock a bow swarm yeoman does anyone have yeoman from Nebraska yeah no it's fantastic that's just it's an amazing feat so that's I'm really appreciative of that it's fantastic okay and unless we have anything else from the audience I think we've I'm sorry I minimized I had to put the full screen on so I haven't really been watching the chat so why I noticed Steven wanted to know what was going to become of the discord channel I mean we've moved to our main wiki tree discord now and and we've even got a general so there we go we've even got a general chat for the challenge itself so what more can we tell them about that well you know we we talked about it and there has just been such an invaluable amount of research in that discord channel that we were using before on that server that you know we don't want it to just go away so you know if you want to leave the server that's fine we are not using it actively anymore at all but we will not be deleting or getting rid of that because there's just hours and hours and hours of conversation and records and links to stuff you know that are in those old rooms all the conversation of course is occurring now on the main wiki tree server if you are not on the main wiki tree server I definitely recommend it it has just been such a huge help with collaboration it makes a really big difference and then of course you know our challenge is is I can't believe we've only got a few more guests left we have three after you Michael that's it yeah so everybody was you know even though it's a holiday for many people coming up people are getting in there working on your week they're like no we're almost done we got to help these people um you know all the Europeans and Australians saying well what are we going to do this weekend and sleep off our turkey and give our staff members a break I'll just have to eat my things doing dinner at my computer so I can go over all the stuff on there I know that is one thing that that we've had a lot of the guests say in the past is they're like they had no idea until they really started looking through it how much time they were going to need you know to actually be able to stop and look at every profile you know and you will get a few documents by email but for the most part everything is linked on the profile or it's actually uploaded to the profile so that you can go ahead and take those and add those to your own records you know and and have that excellent a lot to look through though hey that's what geniality is about lots of digging and shuffling and rifling through new stuff okay well I think I'm going to let's go ahead and wrap this up I want to wish everybody that is having dinner with our family tomorrow a happy Thanksgiving or a happy holiday and for those of you that aren't you could still go on a discord and chat with each other it'll be there I know I know some of them are already still planning on you know working on some of Michael's branches and that room is still accessible feel free to go ahead and use it and the following week you guys will come back and rejoin us and we will have Mary Roddy as a guest and so that should be a lot of fun I want to thank everybody that works so hard on Michael's tree this week once again you guys are amazing you just blow my mind every week it's so great and you know thank you Michael for letting us traipse through your branches and you know look at it all it really is you know we we love doing this it just is so so much fun and I think we will say good night everyone well thank you very much and happy Thanksgiving everyone