 So, do you think you're going to win? My prediction is I'm going to win on Saturday. So, I'm going to give it a really good effort and we're going to fight all day and hopefully it will be exciting no matter what. What advice do you have? So, this is what I told my focus on the pain, focus on the job you've got today. Yeah, my way of doing that is I try to make the big job and the smaller jobs and we just try to do the small jobs all day and then it's not so difficult. Does that make sense? Yeah. How did you become a runner? I started running by first playing football and then I had a really good friend that convinced me to go out for cross country. So, I started doing cross country athletics when I was about 14. So, probably a little older than you guys, huh? What's your favorite pair of shoes? My favorite pair of shoes are the Mafari EVO. So, I like them, they're pretty light, they're kind of got an aggressive tread on them and for me they're comfortable so I like them. So, what would I do? Hopefully in a fast style and not too much stopping. Yeah, so most of my nutrition I'm going to be doing through hydration so I add like a sugar mix to my drinks and then I eat little cliff blocks specifically I like salted watermelon, I think it's the best flavor. Have you guys had those before? They're almost like gummy bears but they have more salt and sugar in them. How big is the cowbell? That big? It's not too big. Did you have to wear it? Yeah. Where'd you hit? Did you get a knee? I usually get my hands. It didn't hurt? No. You make me feel not so tough usually when I feel it hurts a lot and I'll lie there for a second but the race must go on, right? I like wearing tights and then probably on the top if it's not wet which I imagine from where you're from it's usually wet but I like going with breathable layers on top ideally so if I start sweating I'm still not too hot but if it's wet I'll start putting on a layer and I'll do more like a t-shirt underneath so not heavy layers underneath because I get really hot and waterproof layers. What's your advice for running in the rain? We might have to run in the rain on Saturday. Well, if you're a child and you're starting to lie I have this problem. We need to make sure you wear waterproof clothes because it's a one-time water content and I was soaked really cold. I just... Okay, I'll try to avoid the cut and I think Hocus set us up with some gum here. Okay. Are you in the rain? I'm from a really dry, sunny area so I like sometimes. Yeah, I say you get your tan on at the same time. Are you going to be racing me? Yeah, I'll have to think about it first then. Yeah, maybe if you don't race and you crew for me that might be more tempting and you've got to give me a couple suggestions about what we'll think about it. Archivetrician and South Danceway 100 as long as Jim lets me win the South Danceway one. I heard... are you James? There's a James. I heard I have to tell about... Oh, James, yeah, yeah, James Elson. Yeah, he's a good runner. He's still the worst mistakes and he's still the worst mistakes. I had to say a message that I'll be seeing him next year at the course.