 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump. Mind pump. With your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, for the first 40 minutes, me, Adam, and Justin have some fun conversation. I talk about my carnival adventure. He loves them carnies. We talk about all the fights and events that happened over the weekend. We had Luke Rockhold versus Branch in MMA. We had not the older one with Machida. Yeah, we have Canelo versus GGG. And we had the Olympia that just happened. And we talked about how Amazon streamed the Olympia on Amazon owns everything. It's crazy. And it wasn't the wasn't the rock hosting it. Yeah, pretty insane. We talk about Justin's Thrive Market Order of organic hygiene products for a ridiculous price. By the way, we are sponsored by Thrive Market. You can get a massive discount if you go to thrivemarket.com forward slash mind pump. Justin actually talked about his favorite peanut butter from there. And you'll get a name like $60 with the organic groceries, I believe, with that coupon code. We also mentioned Organifi. That's another company we're working with. If you go to organifyshop.com, enter the code mind pump, you'll get a discount on your supplements. And then we get into the questions. The first question was, can we talk about dieting strategies for women who have screwed up their hormones from competing and who've gained a ton of weight and can't lose it? This is actually quite common. Otherwise known as some people call it adrenal fatigue. Some people call it HPA axis dysfunction. It's messed up. The next question was, somebody asked us how we can have conflicting views. On the one hand, we talk about how genes play such a big role in how you can perform in sports. And we also talk about how maybe you can cure most of your problems through changing your behaviors. 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Bring on the meat spins. Swing it to the left. Swing it to the right. Spin it, spin it, spin it, spin it. Everything's all right. Stupid. You've seen that to your wife? Yeah. I knew that every time I took my clothes off. And then he comes in and he's like, I don't know why my wife doesn't want to have sex. Have no idea. I'm like, well maybe you need to stop doing the... Stop playing puppets with your wiener. The puppets. Yeah. Dude, you know... They made a whole tour out of that. Oh yeah, they did. There's something to it. There was a... Women like loved that. Really? Yeah, it was a guy who... What was it called? I don't know, Meat Puppets. No, that's what it was called. No, that was a band. A band. But he would like do things with his... With himself. With a junk. And he would make like animals and stretch it and do weird shit. And it was a fucking show. Like the bat wing and all that stuff. Oh, like balloon animals kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But with your business? His Johnson. Yeah, and he did it and he sold a lot of tickets. Yeah. Wow. I know. I'm trying to think what kind of animals I could make with that. Well, they have a whole, you know, like plethora of animals. I can do the giraffe. I can probably tie it in two knots. That's about it. Two knots? Yeah, that's about it. I can only fold mine seven times. What's that rule? You can't fold something more than seven times? Here's the thing. I do origami with mine. When someone tells me, you know, oh, I can't make any money. Yes, you can, dude. You just have to be willing... Just get more creative. You just have to be willing to do some horrible... Like to embarrass yourself. Well, that too. You'll make a lot of money. You just have to be willing to do it. You know what I'm saying? Put it out there. What about like what we talked about before? I think there's a lot of money to be made in these... I just saw another girl doing this that does... Her page is full of like almost-naked photos. And then you click the link in her bio, and it sends you to a paid behind-the-scenes of all these photo shoots. I thought it was pretty clever. Just like straight teaser. Yeah, I think it was pretty clever. Like for $34.99 a month, I get full access to... How long have you been a member? Not very long. You know, that is the way to do it. But what I find interesting is that these people will then... Who someone pointed out was you, Adam? They'll have a link in their bio to where you can go to it, and then you can like buy them stuff. They'll have like a wish list. And if you're like one of their followers, you can go there and buy them something and mail it to her. It's so brilliant when you think about it. Oh my God. I do a lot. There's a part of me that wants to try it. I'm gonna write a list on how to... You can't do it. It's a dawn of Amazon. Maybe they can't do it. Am I pretty enough? You're a man. I still think... Women don't fall for that shit. You don't think? Oh, I think there is a... What if they're trying to buy your attention? How do you know there's not a bunch of gay men that are ready to buy me toys? Oh, that's different. I'm sorry. If you're trying to sell to men, you're right. But if you're selling to women... Well, I don't think I need to... Why do I have to... It doesn't have to be like just to men or women. People that would want to view... It's just not as big. The market's just not as big. Well, yeah. I'm not gonna compete against the fucking hot chick. No. It's just one of those things. Something that I want to do, actually, is I want to introduce legislation because I think it's a very sexist market against men. We do not have the opportunities to make the same amount of money with our nude photos. There's clear sexism going on. Clear. Do you have any male porn stars? More money for pranks. Do it for free. They do it for free, dude. They don't even get paid. You know what I mean? I feel like that's sexism. Have you watched the JPCers video that I sent you guys? Oh, the millennials? He's so funny. Did you know he's a checkie? He's a Paul Check certified guy, right? Yes. Yeah, no, for sure. Actually, he's an instructor. Yeah. He totally gets it. Well, we've been in contact with him for quite some time now. It's just he's all the way on the East Coast and I don't want to do a phone interview. He's somebody I'd want to hit on. I need to do a video with him. I think it would be magic. I bet you he's a badass. Like, you know how he comes in his videos, he's like hilarious and smart, whatever. But I bet you, physically, he's probably a badass. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you think so? I think so. What gives you that impression? Because he's very well-educated, knows his stuff. I don't mean like... Which translates into Hella Strong. All right? Well, I mean, he doesn't have to be Hella Strong. He looks good in yoga pants. He's like super mobile and functional and can do a lot of... I bet you, physically, he's impressive. That's all I'm saying. You know what I mean? Yeah, maybe. I'm just saying that. Okay. I'm not gonna zero logic behind that though. All right, all right. So anyway, did you guys see my photos from the carnival this weekend? Yeah, you got some huge pig or something? Dude, how did that work out? Carnivals are the funnest and most frightening places to take your kids all at the same time. Because there are carnies there. None of them have a full set of teeth. That used to be a total slide that we used to do at each other. Cut low, we used to say. Corning. You're a corny worker. Yeah. Well, I mean... There's very few of them have all their teeth. And if I'm insulting... Yeah, we're infending somebody. Right, there's always exceptions to rule. So maybe the person listening to this right now... Nice people. Well, do they travel? How does it work? Why are they like that? Do they travel with the carnival? Is that their job? Well, back when I was working for them, they just... Yeah, I don't know how they do it, bro. I think it's like... Because I feel like maybe these people travel with the carnival. Tradition or something from their family, I would think. And it's like their only opportunity. You know what I mean? I think it's more like... Because the carnival is always traveling all over. That they don't even have the workers until like the week before they're coming in and they put them on Craigslist. Like, you know, people are willing to operate a Ferris wheel for low money. And possible, all you can eat, caramel corn and... Lots of... Yeah. Who will work for... Caramel corn and cotton candy. Caramel corn and cotton candy. And the rides... The rides at the carnivals are... Methheads, pretty much. They're... Hey, man, I hate... It's true. It's true, dude. It is true. And the rides are the same rides that we rode when we were kids at the carnival. And I don't mean like the same kind of rides. I mean, the same. Like the same color. It didn't change. The same paint. Like I carved my name on it when I was eight. It's still there. Same rides. Yeah. And so I'm almost like... Should we go on this ride? The zipper and the bears wearing. Yeah. Yeah. It's still there. The Gravitron. The one ride I've never done in my entire life. The spins. I'll never do it. The Gravitron. I'll never do it. That sounds terrible to me. So it's not as bad a case. So I can't... I feel like I'm gonna throw up. So I can't do the T-Cups and... Oh, I can't. I've done it already. What were the egg beaters? Those ones? Yeah, those ones. The scrambler and the egg beater. Yeah. Those are awesome. The ones that... So T-Cups and Disneyland's made me throw up. Like I can't... Oh, yeah. That's a tight space. If it's a big space and you spin me different. Really? You don't get dizzy in there? Yeah, yeah. So the... Because you're going so fast, it kind of presses you up against the wall. That's what's neat. It presses you against the wall and you hover up. It doesn't feel like a tight circle that makes you dizzy. Oh, so that one, you're leaning against the wall and everybody's leaning like in a big circle? Yeah. And you're on these sliding things, right? So you're... The centrifugal force? Yes. That's the word I was looking for. That's the word I was searching for. I almost started throwing some words. I appreciate the fucking pass there. That's science there, for sure. Good job. Yeah, so the centrifugal force has got me pressed against the wall and then you... As it speeds up, you're on these... The wall, everyone has like these pads and the pads are on rollers. So it pushes you against the wall and then you kind of... You slide up and you're hovering off the ground like four feet or so, three or four feet. Yeah. So it's kind of cool, right? It's a trip, yeah. I don't get dizzy, like teacups because you're in this tight little thing and you're spinning really tight. You can't even like look at anything. Oh, yeah. You try and look outside. Talking about it actually makes me dizzy. Oh, I hate it. I hate it. My daughter, she's only... She's barely about to turn eight. She's not eight yet. She cries because she can't get on these rides yet because she's not tall enough. She totally doesn't take after me. I didn't get on a roller coaster or a scary ride until I was like 14. Like I refused. I'm like, fuck no. And the only reason why I went on when I was 14 was because it was a girl that said I was a pussy. Oh. And so, yeah. And so I was like, I have to go on now. Call me out. But I hated him. And my son's like me. My son's like, I don't want to go to the carnival. I'm like, why? And he's like, my friends... I'm like, your friends are going to be there. And he's like, nah. I'm like, is it because you don't want to go on the rides? You feel the pressure? So he's like, yeah. You called him out? I did. And I told him, because you know why? I did it because I told him that that's what I did. Like I hated going to places I don't want to go on the rides. My daughter's the exact opposite. She freaking cries, wants to go on it. This carnival in particular was at this... It was in the church of... It was in the parking lot of a Catholic church. And it was part of the church's carnival. And Catholic church carnival is the best because they always serve alcohol. This is what's great about being a Catholic. Is we drink. Whiskey everywhere. We drink. There were margaritas and there was wine. And it was cheap wine. Like you could pay three bucks for a big old glass of wine. So me, my girl, my kids... Yeah, no birth control but plenty of alcohol. Yeah, exactly. Sounds like a good idea. They want you to reproduce. We go there and we're just drinking. So we start getting tipsy. And alcohol and Carney games are a very fast way to go broke. Because I'm like, I'm going to fucking win, dude. And I know they're all rigged. They're all bullshit. So I go do the one, my favorite one. I always love doing this one. The one with the pellet gun that you're supposed to shoot the star out of the paper. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you've got to shoot the thing out. I spent... That was a pretty good sound effect. I spent a hundred bucks trying to do this. A hundred dollars didn't get a stuff shut up. I was 30 bucks. You better want some shit. No, I didn't. I spent a hundred bucks on it. And finally I look at the paper and I swear to God this little... This fucker that Carney, dude. He's like, no, it doesn't count. There's a red spot there still. And it was debatable, dude. And I could have won. Oh, because you're supposed to blast out all red. Dude, I could have won a freaking radio control car, but I didn't. Did you guys watch any of the fights? There was so much going on on TV this weekend. Did you guys watch that? No, I was at the corner. I heard about it though. Oh, my God. You didn't watch Triple G, Canelo. You didn't watch the Canelo, Triple G fight. You didn't watch Olympia. There was so much going on. Who's fighting in UFC? So that was... Oh, my God. What is his name right now? David Branch versus... I watched Rockhold. Rockhold? Yeah, Rockhold? Yeah. Luke Rockhold versus... Yeah, I watched that fight, actually. Luke Rockhold versus David Branch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was Friday night, I think. Luke knows all the same time. Oh, was it? They were all on the same time. I had... I definitely watched that fight. On the laptop, I had Olympia being streamed, right? So I'm watching that, which, by the way, we're going to get into that in just a minute. Mm-hmm. And then, also, I'm flipping back and forth between the Canelo, Triple G fight with the UFC fight. So I put money on David Branch just because he's 11-0, he's got knockout power, and Luke is in a new camp, and he's coming back after... You fought Machita. Who? Rockhold. Went... No. So that was a different fight. He fought David Branch, which I'm trying to tell you right now. So that's a different fight. No, he just fought... You watched Rockhold on FS1. That was, like, Thursday, I think. Must have been an old fight. Must have been an old fight. So you watched... Was it an old fight? Yeah, you watched an old fight. Oh, no. He just... I thought that was scary. Luke Rockhold just fought David Branch, and David Branch was a... This is what Sal loves to do this, right? Any time there is these huge underdogs, he's always telling me to put 100 bucks on the underdogs. So you were in my head this weekend, and this was actually a great time to do it. So he was a minus four or a plus 425. So, you know, I bet... So it was a great bet. Oh, yeah. So I bet, I think, $300 or $400 on him to win almost $2,000. And oh, man, he had him... He stumbled him in the first round. He got it. He caught him, lost it, almost went. And I went, oh, so excited. He got himself back together, and then he ends up beating the shit out of David Branch. How did he beat him? He got it. He full-mounted him. Oh, and just beat him. Yeah. Fuck, I missed that. So Rockhold, when he did his Jiu-Jitsu, when he first started in Jiu-Jitsu, he trained at the same school that I trained, not at the same location. He trained at the Santa Cruz location of Claudia Franca. And one of the guys that I trained with, Carlos... God, what's his last name? Can't believe it. Mello, who's... He's a Mundial competitor, and he's one of the Pan-Americans. Like, super good Jiu-Jitsu guy. Used to hate going against him. He's one of these guys, if you go against him, he... There's one movie he's going to get you on. You know he's doing it. Can't stop it. It's very frustrating. He came back one day from training at the Santa Cruz location. He was the one telling us about Luke. He's like, dude, there's this kid over there, fucking amazing at Jiu-Jitsu. And he told us the name, and I didn't forget the name. And now to see him fight, it's pretty cool to see these guys kicking ass. Well, you know, he's a badass, too. Yeah. Like, yeah, they have really high expectations for him. I mean, it was... He's a good-looking dude. He's fit. He's very marketable. Yeah, he's lost a couple times. And each time he's lost, he was the favorite. Like, he was supposed to win, which is also what made me... He just switched camps, too. So he's fighting now, I think, and he's in a camp, and I think in Florida, I want to say, with a team that I'm unfamiliar with that's up and coming. And, you know, I know he was with AK before. So I'm like, okay, you just came off a big loss. He's with a new team and new coach right now. And then you've got this guy right now who's up and coming. I think he's won 11 or 12 fights in a row. He's an ex-boxer with two belts and boxing. So... And I've seen David Branch fight a couple of times, and he's definitely got... For sure, Rockhold was supposed to be the better fighter. I was fully aware of that going in there. But, you know, you want to talk about those fights where you take a chance. It's like, whenever there's that knockout chance, and then all those things are all... I was like, there's a good chance this guy could get upset. I was wrong. I lost. But that was going on. The Triple G fight, I know lots of people are shouting fucking fixed fight because one of the... Because the rematch will be worth... Well, one of the judges... In my opinion, if I was... I did not know who to give that fight to. I thought Triple G did enough to win it, but I'm not disappointed with the draw. I know a lot of people are because one of the judges scored it like... 118 to what, 10 or something like that? Yeah, 118 to 120, something or what. It was a major discrepancy in Canella's favor. I'm not like that at all. So that was pretty like, whoa, what the fuck? So everybody freaked out. Was Oscar De La Hoya part of the production of this? Or what's his role in this whole thing? Well, you have De La Hoya, you have Mayweather, and you have... Who else is another big... Fuck the Mayweathers. I mean, almost every major fight these days, they're like huge promoters now. I mean, I'm sure De La Hoya was in this one. I can't remember. I've just been seeing all these memes with him after wearing that like fishnet outfit or whatever. Oh my God. De La Hoya? Yeah. That old photo of him? Oh my God. You ever saw that old photo of him? It's so funny. It's old. It was leaked somehow a long time ago. De La Hoya wearing this fishnet outfit, wearing heels, like full-on. Oh wow. It's hilarious. Oh no, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that. That's good times. So that was... I thought it was... In my opinion, that was fight of the decade. I haven't seen a fight. Wow. Yeah, no, it was incredible. 100% incredible. And of course, like I said, people were upset calling that it was a fixed fight. I don't think that fight was fixed at all. I think to try and script a battle back and forth to come on. Could you tell based off damage or anything? Like are just your shots landed? Both guys put... I mean, each guy was fucked up. Each guy got an incredible power. I mean, it was like a rocky brawl for 12 rounds, dude. That's awesome. Every once in a while. And these are good for boxing. Because when you get these battles where you have two fighters like Ali and Frazier, and there's a bunch of other battles where they would go back and forth, they're so good for boxing. People love watching that. My theory on this, which I was wondering, is I wonder if De La Hoya, who I think was who put on the promotion for the Canelo fight, talked to Mayweather, who was responsible for the McGregor and Mayweather fight. I wonder if this was all a strategy to drive more people to the boxing sport, and they worked out some sort of deal. Because when you think about it, a lot of your purists were really upset about the McGregor and Mayweather fight. And the reason why the purists were upset was because they're like, this Canelo and Triple G fight is supposed to be fight of the century. But when you think about it, a lot of people watch that Canelo fight Triple G now because the Mayweather and McGregor... 100%. Because it took so much attention, and now you have all these people that normally wouldn't want to. It would have just gone way under the radar otherwise, right? It would be fascinating to see the viewing stats and paper view. I'm sure somebody knows. I guarantee that McGregor fight did enormous things for boxing, whether they want to admit it or not. Of course. It brought a lot of eyes back. What about the Olympia? Olympia, man. So all I saw were the highlights and the finals. I didn't watch the whole thing. I'll tell you what though, one guy I was not aware of, and I'm not super on the up and up with pro bodybuilding. I kind of keep my finger on it a little bit, and I was really big into it, like I said when I was a kid. That one guy, Bonac, is that how you pronounce the last name? Yeah, William. Crazy physique. I've never heard of this guy before, so my first time ever seeing him was on the Olympia stage this weekend, and you couldn't fit more muscle on his frame. Well, that was their knock on him. Well, not knock, but that's where they said was he's just small. It reminds me of back in the days with Arnold and Franco, right? You know who he reminds me of? A Lee Priest in the sense that he's got a different looking physique, but Priest is one of those guys that just had so much muscle on a small frame. It just looked insane. Yeah, and I think that just did. I think you cannot get him any bigger. Let me show Justin, because Justin doesn't know. Look at this guy. Holy shit. Yeah, that guy is a musculator on muscles. Yeah, look at that. I mean, just by himself looks unbeatable. The problem is that when he stands next to somebody who's tall or whatever, then he, you know, Yeah, you put it. So did they have like the men's physique classic competes at Olympia? Yeah, and they had the first time or was it? Yeah, this was the first time classics were on there. And what did that look like? That guy, the guy who wanted to forget his name looked phenomenal. I thought he looked great. I thought the categories were awesome. I did think they were going to give it to Sadiq, though, for reasons of like just for marketing reasons, because Sadiq has got like two points, something million people attached to him already. And I thought they would do that. Yeah, you probably think that they're going to weigh that heavy. Yeah, because I mean, I don't give a shit what anyone says. I had that. I actually, our forum was kind of talking about this and they were speculating on who was going to win. And I said, it's going to be Phil Heath, because big Rami is his closest competitor. And from a marketing perspective, Kai Green was closer to dethroning Phil Heath in my opinion because Kai Green was interesting. He had a different look. He was very marketable. Big Rami can't string two sentences together. He looks crazy huge and impressive, but he looks kind of odd. He doesn't have the same kind of swag as Phil Heath. He's not pretty like Phil Heath. He wasn't as sharp. His physique wasn't as, from the pictures that I saw at least, especially from the back, he's massive. He's got crazy proportions. The guy's legs and delts and chest are just insane, but he doesn't have like that sharpness to his look, which Phil Heath does. I will say this though. Phil Heath's gut is getting out of fucking control. I don't think it's Phil. I don't think you said that too. And I don't, I don't think Phil Heath is any worse than any other guy that stood on the stage. Or worse than he's looked before in terms of his gut. And I think the longer you do this, that's got to be the thing you got to work on. Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, I think, I mean, we talked off air about this. Like it's, it's crazy to me that these guys, you know, being somebody who's taken anabolic steroids for a very long time, like there's, there's always the fear in the back of your head that, like, you know, what kind of internal damage am I potentially doing? Whether it be from shutting off my hormones completely or growing internal organs that you don't want to grow. I mean, when you're taking HGH, everything grows. Your bones, your joints, your ligaments, like your fucking internal organs grow. And when you're taking 10 IUs or more a day of that stuff, I mean, that's what's happening is all the internal organs have grown so much that it doesn't matter how lean they get. They're going to have this distended belly. And here's a question I have for you. Growth hormone does, you know, enhance hypertrophy of cells period, right? And in the wrong context as dangerous, by the way, growth hormone in the context of cancer, you're going to get some aggressive cancers because it makes the cells grow more. But here's an interesting question. Do you think it's the combination of growth hormone and the amount of food that they're eating that could promote more hypertrophy of their digestive system? You know what I'm saying? Sure. I'm wondering if that... Sure, think about that. Because I know that the kidneys grow when you have high protein intake. They show that the kidneys do grow. And it's an adaptation to be able to process more protein. Sure. Think about every other system in the body. The more it's worked and pushed, the body is going to adapt to make that an easier process, right? So you got to think the digestive system would work the exact same way. Yeah, I'm wondering if... If it's constantly being stimulated and worked because you're having to consume 8,000, 10,000 calories a day in addition to you in taking... It doesn't make a lot of logical sense. Yeah, I mean, so absolutely. So I don't know. These guys... It's a... I don't know. Classic physique to me is way more appealing to look at. Like I look at the guys in Classic Physique and they look awesome. They all look like Frank Zanes. They're like a bunch of Frank Zanes. Kind of a step below bodybuilding. Way less size. Yeah. Way less size. Legs. The legs, they still have to... Oh, bro. They show off, right? They got fucking legs. They got bodies. They look like bodybuilders from... They look like Frank Zanes. 70s and 80s. To me, Classic Physique in bodies, the Frank Zanes look to me. They really score well for the smaller waistline still. But absolutely, they want that X look. So you got to have wheels on you for sure. So yeah, no. The Classic Physique looks awesome. I think the guys in it look great. Everyone's geared up. I mean, there's no fucking natural guys in there either. But at least, you know, and we don't know, but I'm speculating that the amounts that they're taking are much lower than what the guys at the... Phil Heath just has one of those physiques that you want to talk about genetics, like in terms of the shape and muscle insertions and all that stuff. Like he's just... He's got the craziest, most bubbly mass that I can think of. Because he's got that combination of the two. Usually, you've got either shape with that bubble look or you've got like this mass. But he's got both of them because he's... Although he's not very wide, he's not the widest bodybuilder. He's so thickly muscled. His back looks insane. I mean, even up there doing those back shots. No, he's got a great physique. He's got incredible... His quads look crazy in this Olympia. He's a good-looking guy. He's got great balance and overall symmetry from all the way down from his calves up to his traps and every other small muscle group on his body. I mean, he looks great. The moment I saw him, I thought he brought as good or a better package than he did last year. I'm like, you're not taking this title away from him. It's in the IFBB's best interest to keep him where he's at until somebody who's far more... It's no different than what we see with UFC fighting and McGregor and we talk about all that shit. I mean, this is a business at the end of the day. Speaking of that, let me tell you, what I was most fascinated in over everything was to see this being streamed by Amazon. And I thought they did a pretty shitty job for their first time around. I thought it was funny that... Well, Amazon's what the biggest retailer of supplements now, aren't they? So not only that, but they did say probably the worst part about bodybuilding is the downtime in between. So now that's now chopped up with good commercials, right? And by good, I mean, they're well-produced, right? Most of them are all supplement commercials. They have like reporters almost in the field talking to interviewing athletes and stuff or what was the vibe? Not that far, but they had Sean Ray and I forget who the other two announcers were. They had announcers that announced it and they were talking the entire time. And then during the bodybuilders coming offstage, they would transition over to a commercial. But man, to see Amazon getting their hands in this, to see The Rock, The Rock came up and was the one who presented the awards and talked about like... You know there's going to be a lot of eyes next year. Oh, he called it. He said it. This is going to be bigger and better than ever next year. Watch. And with Amazon getting their hands on it, with The Rock putting his hands in it, watch out. Watch for what you're gonna... And we've been saying this for a fucking some time now. It's been doing nothing but growing on its own. Yeah, exactly. It was already growing and you're about to see it accelerate and the piece that was really missing was they just didn't present it very well. For so many years it's been weird. It's been like almost a supplement display, like a competitive space for supplement companies to put their presence there. Oh, and it's going to become that. Well, I think they have to go this route because the social media fitness bodybuilder stars or whatever are surpassing these competitors in terms of their reach and popularity and marketability. So this is just, they're just, they're evolving. They have to. And you better believe it's going to get even more political. Yeah. It's going to get more political once you start getting it there. It'll be interesting to see what it does financially if it changes how much they get paid and how the money is moved around. I'm interested to see that. I saw that Amazon had commercials to show you how to buy the supplements and then also to subscribe to a monthly, just automatically get your protein. Delivery. For a really cheap price. God, man. I mean, it's brilliant. It's fucking brilliant. I mean, it's crazy to see where it's going, man. I'm super fascinated. Speaking of purchasing things online, Justin, how's your orders doing with Thrive? Yeah, great. I just got into their whole website and dove through all their products and stuff over the weekend and ordered some cool stuff. What's great is they vet all these products and it's all organic and I was able to actually get a lot of soaps and things like that for dish soap and for shaving cream and all these types of things where I'm like, oh, I'm trying to kind of reduce a lot of the chemical exposure they have on a daily basis and it's not anything I ever really focused on before but it's like, what's cool about this is I can buy all these soaps and shampoos and all these things to where I know that it's organic and I'm not just pounding myself all these chemicals all the time. So that's cool. How was the price in comparison? Because I know when we first... Dude, it's fucking good. It's great. Well, I know when we signed with them that's what they said but I haven't gone through it because I just made it. I just talked about this on the show recently about the soaps and the shampoo I felt were of all the things that were making a difference that I've changed haven't really made that big of a difference and the price was just astronomical to buy. I was just like, whatever about it. But now that we're connected to Thrive that's been what I've been wanting to check out is to see how comparable the prices are. You're not paying $30 for a bottle of shampoo. Yeah, it's almost like it's... Wherever you get it, like normally it's like 30-something percent off on some of these products, man. And they kind of recognize what... Like I purchased before and I was kind of trying them out in the Thrive market and they're already kind of like retargeting sort of like some of my purchases and then they even gave me an additional amount that I save to incentivize me to kind of buy some of these products. They're going to kill it. They're going to kill it. I love it, dude. If you go on there, if you buy organic non-GMO products go on there and look at the prices they're going to kill... I don't see how anybody can compete with them. The only person that will and I told you this already they're in a race right now. They're in a race with Amazon right now. Amazon bought Whole Foods after seeing the Thrive market and really understanding their business model which is fucking brilliant because it's... And the reason why it's so brilliant it's a win for everybody. Like the consumer absolutely has to love it because it's the Costco of organic foods. The one knock that everybody has on Whole Foods is what? What's their nickname? Whole Paycheck. Whole Paycheck, right? Because it's like if you want this great, great food you got to pay for the crazy price for it. Right, the premiums. So if you could actually find a way to get connected to the best sources or organic farmers and be able to provide that at the farmers market type of price which that's what Thrive is doing they've now taken the farmers market prices that everyone knows is so great and you get these organic foods and then you can get it shipped to your house within two days. Holy fuck. Like it's Costco of Whole Foods. It's the game changer. I was having a conversation with my parents over the weekend and I was looking at my mom's cupboards or whatever and I'm like, Mom, at least if you're going to buy some of these snacks or whatever, get organic. And she's like, what's the big deal? It's expensive, it costs more money this and that so pull it right up. I said, how much did you pay for this? She tells me the price. I said, here you go, the organic version of it I was able to find with all the products that we were arguing over either they were the same price. Or cheaper. Or cheaper. It's crazy. It's a game changer. The market is an absolute game changer. Justin's peanut butter. I was like, I got a bunch of those. That's like my favorite peanut butter, man. I was like, wow, it's so cheap. They even had your name on it. It's mine. Well, it was there for me. It'll be interesting. I mean, of course, we partnered with them because we are rooting for them. I hope that they continue to do well and I'm sure the race is on for who can get to, because they're on, I think they're fourth round, they're on their fourth round of funding right now. So they're making moves right now. They're pushing hard to grow over them. Even environmentally, they think beyond most of these companies we've even talked to where they're seeing how everything is sourced and what kind of footprint they're leaving. Isn't it beautiful? I can't even believe it. It's all market-driven. It's all market-driven. It's them coming up, them saying this is what consumers are looking for, which we've talked about on the show, that if the consumers want it, they're going to get it and that's what they're providing. Super transparency, the environmental factors are very important to them. They give a free membership to families in need. So it's like, I don't know how you can hate on a drive market. You can't. And the products are good and cheap. Well, and then you figure the way you get signed up, right? So I was explaining this to Katrina the other day. She's like, well, how are they making their money? I'm like, this is, it's crazy is that they take out the broker, they take out the broker fee and all the middlemen. So you're getting the rates for the groceries that they're pretty much getting it for, which already sounds like, how can they do that? Well, okay. Then they get their membership, you know, annual membership. But then on top of that, you get a 60, their membership is what? $60 a year. And you get $60 towards shopping your first, your first. So by the second time you've actually utilized them. You've already paid for your money. Yeah. So if you use them two times in an entire year, you've paid for, it's like Costco, same thing, right? Yeah. So if you have used Costco, if you use Costco two times in a year, you've pretty much paid for what you pay for, for the membership fee. So it's a brilliant, it's a brilliant model. They got it, they got great products. And it's working. It's only going to get better. Like, I mean, it's pretty exciting to, it's pretty exciting that it makes me happy that we waited as long as we did to align with anybody. Because I remember it was really tough early on. There weren't a lot of companies that thought this far ahead. No, well, not only that, but a couple of companies that were coming after us to partner with them were all these supplements and clothing and all the shit that none of us were excited about. And it was pretty, it's pretty cool to have been able to say no to so many companies for so long to wait for the ones that like we are excited about that I think align with our message. I can actually get like energetic about it. Well, they align with, they align with the message that we've been given for over two and a half years. It's pretty exciting that we're able to do that. I'm super excited about this, this partnership and look forward to see where it goes. This clause brought to you by Organifi. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organifi fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance of the added edge. Try Organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organifi.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use the coupon code MINEPOMP for 20% off at checkout. All right, our first question is from Laura B. Fit X. Can you talk about dieting strategies for women who have screwed up their hormones from competing and have gained a ton of body fat and can't lose weight? So it's funny, I met with someone recently who, this lady is working on a project for her work and she's creating, it's a fitness space and I had never met her before but she had known of me through someone else and she wanted to ask me some questions and so I don't want to go into too much detail because I think it's supposed to be kind of on the DL but anyhow she walks in and immediately because I've been doing this for so long I can see some of the signs of when people are in this particular state of being you can see it on their face they have that that look of like they're drained dark gray circles out of their eyes skin tone you can just tell and she sits down and we start talking and she's training for her third marathon she just had her second kid and we start talking and she's in this particular situation you see women who compete on stage, bikini and stuff who get in the situation and it's really just you have really caused your body to adapt to this stress of dieting and training in a way where you may have caused yourself some what they'll call HPA dysfunction you know the hypothalamus pituitary and adrenal gland dysfunction to where your body and that's what she said in the question my hormones are off and a lot of women will know this they'll feel like fuck my hormones are off because I have low libido I'm super fatigued I have strange cravings or I'll get cold sweats or at night sometimes people will tell me in the middle of the night they'll wake up and I'll get drenched in sweat that's another sign of this and it's really your body is either your hormones are in fact off or your body's not responding to them anymore because your body has down-regulated its receptors for some of these hormones because you've hammered your body for so long so in order to get out of this situation you can't hammer your way out of it so what you did to get into it is not where you can do to get out of it in fact you can't even go in with that attitude you can't go in with the attitude of I'm gonna hammer this so I can fix it you need to take a few steps back so the first thing I do with people like this is I start to reduce believe it or not I start to reduce their their cardio activity level and I know I say believe it or not because people will think well they can't lose weight why are you having them reduce their cardio at this point the cardio is only making their metabolism slower and so I slowly start to reduce it now you gotta be careful when you do this because you will in fact initially start to gain body fat and you have to be okay with that because you want your body to start adapting so with these individuals I'll reduce cardiovascular activity I'll take their total caloric intake I'll keep it where it's at or I'll even slightly decrease it at first with the intention of bumping it as we move along and then I'll change their training to be completely focused on getting stronger and building muscle in a very slow old-fashioned straight sets kind of way the goal is to eliminate cardio at some point completely which is you know don't freak out we're gonna reintroduce it later on but the goal is to eliminate cardio focus on the resistance training building muscle and slowly increase your calorie intake the first thing I do with these women too is I'll reduce their processed carbohydrate intake but I'll increase their fat intake because many times they need the fats to kind of nourish their hormone creation and production and also it's got a protective effect on the body but it's a process this is a process if you're in this situation where you've competed back to back and now you're eating a little bit of calories and for whatever reason your body won't lose weight and you think your hormones are off and it's just not responding anymore give yourself some months it's gonna take some time three months, six months in bad situations it's taken me a year with some people to get to the point where you know I had one lady I trained years ago it took us a year but at the end of the year she was eating significantly more calories was much leaner and was doing way less work but she was patient it took some time to get to this point I know Adam this is kind of your specialty is to prevent this I made a pretty good little business out of helping clients that got coached by other trainers or coaches in the industry for shows for this exact reason and it started off with actually me just kind of helping a girlfriend of mine who had gone through this and I remember as she was going through it she was telling me like you know Adam you gotta help these other people there's so many I had so many teammates we were all in the same diet and this coach is well known and this coach is well known and they're all telling them to do this and I just wasn't aware of that until I got into the competing world and then it was really apparent to me but I started off by helping mostly this exact client so one it's tough for me to give specific things to help them I will give you some general stuff kind of like what Sal just did because everyone's going to be unique and different right and your baseline is different than everybody else's and your hormone profile is different than everybody else's so to give specifics would be silly for me to pretend like I have that for you but I will say that a couple general things one the goal and I think is getting their their mentality repped around like how they should be looking at themselves and their current goal and our goal is for me to get you to eat more calories with less less cardio exercise that you're probably doing because that's what's happened most of them are stuck in this having to hammer the cardio like crazy starve their body just to be able to maintain where they're at it's a scary trap to be trapped it is a very scary trap especially when they try and do something about it and they see this spike and wait you know in the first couple weeks which is normal so I normally have to tell these clients okay I want you to weigh and provide me your weight for me not because I care for you to be paying attention to it and that's so what I mean by that is I'm using it so I can kind of get an idea what's going on because I'll be manipulating your calories up or down based off of this but I expect there to be weight gain if I increase calories just bottom line especially somebody who's in this situation plus I'm going to do what Sal said which is I'm going to eliminate your cardio I'm going to completely eliminate it and at the beginning what I'm going to try and do is replace it with just walking so walking around so no more high-intensity cardio no more long bouts of cardio so if I'm going to get rid of all that I've got I don't want to take you from let's just say hypothetically what you're doing cardio or doing whatever it is you're doing you're stepping 20,000 steps a day I don't want to eliminate that take you down to 10,000 and think that you're not going to blow up because you will so what I would do is say hey let's get somewhere between 15 to 18,000 steps but none of it through cardio so I just need I want to increase your need through walking and moving around typically to the diet as far as macro ratios that work really well for someone in this situation is a 40, 30, 30 so a 40% fat intake and a 30, 30 on protein and carbohydrates I have found that to be and then if anything I will continue to increase fats and lower carbohydrates at first but again this is where I kind of start at the 40, 30, 30 and see how they respond and then I manipulate that based off of what I see and if I see you putting on weight really fast I'll probably drop the carbohydrates and do most of my caloric intake increase through fats and depending on how where your protein is think of it this way your body has adapted to a tremendous amount of workload with low calories so this is what's happened this is why you're in this situation and so your body become desensitized to all that so your strategy is to resensitize your body to the hormones and chemicals that are produced through activity so there are some other techniques you can do to do that for example reduce all the things that can cause spikes in stress hormones like cortisol so what I mean by that is when you do go lift weights in the gym put on some kind of slower music approach your sets do your set but then take a long rest meditate have a great sleep schedule where you an hour before bed you turn everything off you're basically trying to get your body to up-regulate its receptors for these stress chemicals and hormones so it can start responding again and the way you do that is by giving your body kind of presenting your body this space of relaxation and serenity yin yoga, meditation these are all things that are really good I've even had clients who have home gyms I'll tell them to work out in low light so I'll tell them use dim lights don't put on any music lift weights in the quiet I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm trying to again I'm trying to lower your stress response to your resistance training because we want to resensitize your body to those things then when you go back to your normal workout you get crazy results again that's really the game as far as like supplementing and things you could do because then people always ask me like well what can I take what can I take if you're not doing the sleep if you're not doing the diet if your training isn't proper then supplements are a complete and absolute waste of time if you are doing those things supplements can help they can help take the edge off so one of the supplements that I will recommend more recently is the green juice through Organifi it does have adaptogenic properties or things in it and I've noticed this with myself and clients it does seem to help balance people out again it's not going to do shit for you if diet and training are if you're still doing your tons of cardio lifting the weights the way you were and eating nothing like you were it's not going to help you additional supplements are things like ashwagandha, ulythro root these are things that are adaptogenic slowing things down focusing on building muscle getting good sleep slowly increasing calories and changing your mindset to a build strength build muscle mindset another really good strategy along the lines of what you just said about building muscle so this is something that I do too again this would depend on each person individual but most of my competitors if they were following maps black you're coming off of high volume hypertrophy type of training so I want to switch your adaptation for sure so I know that if I'm going to reduce your cardio and I'm going to try and implement more calories into your diet we are going to put weight on but if we do a really good job great point most of this weight will be muscle which is only going to help our metabolism it's really yeah so phase one of any of the maps programs now the only way this would be different is if you just came off of that then I would put you somewhere else but if you're most people are not especially my females were not training like this and they trip out when I tell them this is what we're going to do like okay we're going to be running some and I would even if it's someone I have a close if I'm helping them and I have a close eye on them I would even push them as low as singles and doubles and triples it's perfect for this that's so abnormal for them it's such a new adaptation for their body that this increase of calories is going to make sure that okay yes you're going to put weight on but guess what like the five pounds that we put on over the last three weeks that you were adding calories hopefully was muscle because we've changed your adaptation it's new to the body so your body hopefully puts on some good muscle so I would do some heavy lifting and don't be afraid of that scale if you're doing your job correctly if you're throwing a new adaptation at it and you are training heavy and you're not used to training that way and you're running like a maps phase one and you're doing that while you're increasing calories who cares if weight goes on because I'm telling you right now you're adding some muscle and if you do it right when you go back the other direction your body will respond and again don't forget we're literally trying to repair your body and here's two things that you should not do that I want to make sure I mention number one if you're in this category of people where you're metabolic damage or HPA access to dysfunction adrenal fatigue whatever you want to call it fasting is not a good idea fasting is not a good idea in fact fasting may keep you there longer so this is where people to listen to your body eat when you want we're not going to purposely fast breakfast lunch and dinner is absolutely fine and the second thing is whenever I find people in this situation nine out of ten times they excessively consume caffeine nine out of ten times and the reason why they excessively consume caffeine is they're fucking tired all the time and they're like it's almost like they're artificially providing their body with cortisol so with these people the other thing I do is I slowly reduce their caffeine intake until I take them off coffee completely you don't want to go cold turkey coffee because you will feel terrible but I slowly reduce their caffeine intake to the point where I get them almost off or off and then we can start building things back up quick commercial break hey people ask us all the time how they can support mind pump here's what you can do you can go to www.brain.fm forward slash mind pump you can get 20% off brain FM for meditation or focus you can also go to audibletrial.com forward slash mind pump and get a 30 day trial plus one free audio book lastly you can go to getnatureblend.com forward slash mind pump and you will get a discount on Ben Greenfield's CBD product our next question is from Justin Lackey there seems to be two views frequently presented on the show that seem to be conflicting first is that there are some people who are simply genetically predisposed to superior fitness or athletic prowess which is hard to refute the second is that chronic health challenges such as ADHD can be largely overcome with diet exercise and improved sleep so if there are people who are simply genetically predestined to be superior in certain aspects why could someone not be simply genetically predestined to be much weaker in a certain function such as focus is it realistic to think that there are people who will simply never be normal without some sort of daily pharmaceutical intervention there's several things going on here and before you clown on it because I know you're going to there's some of these are true these don't all add up right okay so absolutely there are people that are genetically blessed respond to steroids respond to muscle building different than other people and will have a superior genetic just like there are faster athletes that just have it and are gifted and then there's also people that have and this is getting into like epigenetics that are predisposed or have potential to getting certain they're there but you have to set them off right that are that could potentially get certain things whatever that disease or chronic illness could be and because of their choice or their choices that they've made that has now got those genetics to express themselves and they're dealing with that and then you drop into questions you go into ADHD well he's basically saying that we talk about how genetics can make you can provide you with these superior benefits but then we did an episode excuse me where we talked about ADD and we said geez if you just fix your diet your sleep and you know you're not going to exercise and all that stuff that most people wouldn't have ADHD and he's like well why can't people have genetics to have ADHD also and that's true but here's what you want to consider this is very simple, it's very very simple your genes give you potentials so imagine if you look at a graph and you have an upper limit of potential and a lower limit of potential in other words at my best this is the absolute best that my genes those potentials exist where you fall in between them that's up to you is your behavior, is your eating your sleep, your diet, your everything you do in your daily life so I could have just have horrible luck with my genes for heart disease but I could speed that the fuck up or I could slow it down quite a bit through what I do every single day this same is true for ADD now the reason why we talked about ADD and ADHD the way we did in that in that past episode is because when you see all of a sudden a huge explosion of people getting you know prescriptions for that are just getting diagnosed with something you got to ask yourself what is going on is it either we're looking for it more and now we're categorizing people easier or is it because these symptoms are displaying themselves more or is it both and why it's just like obesity let's talk about it this is an easy one because I'll talk about obesity because everybody can connect to this one if you look around at the average person today in modern societies the modern person today is far fatter than the average person was 500 years ago or a thousand years ago or 100 years ago right 50 years ago you don't have to go back that far did we did our genes change that much in 50 years no our potentials the same as it was 50 years ago the difference is now we're hitting the fat limit because of our lifestyle so my belief is when it comes to things like ADD and ADHD that those potentials were always there it's just our lifestyle has changed dramatically like kids diets their activity people their exposure to electronics the fastness of life and the fastest of getting information very different than what it was when I was a kid so it's pretty safe to say that those things probably are playing a role in this you know this explosion of diagnosis of things like ADD and ADHD absolutely so it's all about the potentials and your lifestyle is what expresses it yeah I don't feel like the things that we say that are contradicting themselves today just because Phil Heath has great potential he's still got to go work out he's still got to do the things to get that potential even somebody who has the potential to have ADHD there's still things they do to make that a bigger issue in their life so everything that I don't know about you guys but when I have my diet is off when my sleep is off when I'm not active and if I'm in front of electronics and shit all the time my focus is way the fuck off my focus is way off I don't know anybody who this is not true for where it just affects your focus now maybe you're one of those people that affects your focus but you're still able to be really focused and do well and I'll still challenge you and say if you get good sleep if you exercise eat right it's going to get even better it's going to get even better so there's always the genetic component the environment component the genetic component there's parts of it we can't control the hard genes but now we're learning with epigenetics that even those can change through your behaviors and your parents behaviors and your grandparents behaviors and then there's the environmental component which you're in total control of like why not do all the things you know you can do and not really work on all those environmental factors and see what your true range and capacity is and then you know from there you can see whether or not you need medication to kind of provide further dude I took my kids so we talked about how I went to the carnival this weekend right so I had to do a lot of work this weekend I was organizing some stuff I did some writing I had my kids with me and it's just again nowadays like kids don't go outside and if they do go outside there's no other kids out there so my kids are on their devices time got away from me at noon before I was finished and my kids had literally been on their devices from 7 a.m. till noon so fucking hours where they're on their devices right I take them off their devices of course they're pissed off my son's always like five more minutes I'm like listen kid you've been on this thing for fucking five hours like not five more minutes I'm shutting it down so I shut it down I take him to lunch both of them are grumpy both of them are like quiet nobody's really talking it's completely because that's what they were doing on the morning then I take them back we eat lunch they start to kind of warm up a little bit then we go to the carnival and we start having fun on the way back from the carnival everybody's talking and joking and engaged and we're having a great time and my daughter who is extremely perceptive one of her gifts is she's incredibly perceptive she's brilliant in this aspect especially for her age she stops as we're opening the front door and she goes to my son she goes did you notice your mood before we left and now she goes you're a different person she said to your brother and she goes I'm a different person and I'm just like I wanted to cry I was so excited that she noticed it and I'm like it's because when you guys are in your front of your computers and devices and sitting down not moving your brain starts to adjust and adapt to that and it takes a second to get out of that it goes do you see how much different you feel I said do you see why it's important to do all these different things it was a brilliant observation on her point but I mean fuck man kids today they don't move I have a question for you guys and more so Sal because I don't know if Justin you deal with it as much because yours are a little bit younger but if you do chime in if you could go back and do things differently with the introduction of these tools iPhone iPad video games or that would you do anything different like do you look at yourself and go like fuck I wish I would have done this or set these guidelines could you have done something different or better it's these devices using the internet navigating whatever is an incredibly valuable and a blessing if you use it properly and the way I look at it is like this when we were kids in the 80s and then 90s processed foods became massive they were huge like if you go before the 70s and 60s processed foods weren't that big kids ate kind of what their moms made and things were homemade and stuff like that and then it kind of got the grew and then when we were kids it was so big everything way it was processed when I was a kid in school everybody ate everything processed all the time because it was new right it was new in the market now my kids and I know a lot of kids now still eat horribly but a lot of kids eat way better than the kids when I was growing up because I think now we know we need to monitor it the same thing with electronics I'm not trying to take them away from my kids I just have to create guidelines because it's a reality the future of the economy like my kids are going to work with these things if I eliminate them completely that's going to hurt them but if I don't monitor it and parent it a little bit then they're going to get the negative so there's nothing that you could have done or you think you would have done differently I'm learning as I'm going along one of them is like if I want them to go outside I got to go outside with them I can't just tell them to go outside it does remind me a little bit you guys remember when video games first came out and how crazy awesome that was I was so stoked to run to my friend's house we're going to play Super Mario we were consumed by it because it was the new technology that your next neighbor or your best friend had that was the cool thing so I kind of get it from that perspective if you try and trace back when we were consumed by something you can figure back then that was the thing it was video games I think about all the time I'm not at sales level as far as the introduction of it at schools a greater challenge with older kids I'm still in the process of trying to figure a lot of that out but I'm definitely introducing it but setting a timer and then pulling away and giving them warnings a couple times before I take it away that's so key because if you just walk up to your kids and take that shit away you gotta tell them I set the timer 5 minutes left and they seem to be cool with it they'll turn it off I have them hand it to me I have them turn it off and literally hand it to me and look me in the eyes they really get into it so focused on it that it takes a while to process I think that every parent should have to read the book irresistible I urge anybody who's listening to this that has kids, especially if you have young kids Justin, you talk about remembering what it was like I was a video game kid and addicted to video games for many years of my life for sure I played it all the way into my young adulthood and it didn't even relate but this monster is a little bit different and we've only had it for 10 years so it's not like we didn't really truly experience it 10 years ago the three of us were not consumed by MySpace and Facebook it wasn't a lifestyle no, exactly it wasn't a part of our lives it's not only now a part of their lives but it's how many of them connect to themselves and it's a lot of them identify with their online personas and that whole virtual network and social media more so than the others and like I said, why I say I urge everybody that's a parent to read the book because it just it really opened my eyes up to things that I wouldn't thought to think about and that's one of them we talk a lot about VR and what that looks like with people growing up with it they touched on it at the end like caution towards it because again, it's not something that we're dealing with yet they really addressed everything what we can talk about the 10 years, we now have at least 10 years of data to show what's happening what have we learned in the last 10 years from the social media those that grew up with it and those that adopted it and what does that look like for us it was very interesting to hear some of the things that they compared it to like getting into drugs and stuff like that and being even more so dangerous than that so with things like drugs when you become addicted to them or you're doing them so much like Sal said earlier about signs on someone's body when someone does a lot of drugs it's hard not to notice it but they know they look out so there's a different type of policing that naturally happens because you almost feel guilty you're ashamed, you're trying to hide this addiction that you have because you know it's bad you know it's bad for you but the social media thing and the internet and the phones and the iPads we keep referring to them as tools nobody's referring to them as a drug but they're actually closer related to a drug than they are a tool and so when you start looking at it it's even worse than food addiction because now it's like we at least identify with food that there's a potential towards obesity or potential towards some catastrophic health issue nobody's got that relation established with these there's more of a tangible feedback there's things that you see somebody who overeats for a long period of time you can see it on them you see somebody who does drugs curing and from like ways that you have communications social skills it just requires more parenting yeah no absolutely that's why I was asking, prodding those questions from you guys because I'm just curious because being someone who doesn't have a kid these are the things I think if I were to how would I do this I also challenged you guys just a week or two ago that it's important that's what I'm saying because in the future to get a job they're gonna have to have a social presence so it's like how do you teach them that it's a tool and a drug at the same time like you said going forward next up is Fricky Jake who struggles with persistent acne and has had limited success with the elimination diet any tips for an adult male with acne? he already eats organic and processed foods human food intolerances so this is a tough one this is a tough one because the changes to your skin especially when you present things like acne can take a little while when you start to make changes with your lifestyle and people tend to get frustrated like they'll change things and then they'll be like my skin's still bad you know what's going on and it could take a little while there's a couple things here skin is obviously affected by hormones hormones change with your diet but they take longer to change than other things so you can't fix your diet and have a shift in hormones it takes a little bit there's also a microbiome on your skin that is it's like your fingerprint just like your microbiome of your gut and if your microbiome is off in your gut you get digestive issues if your microbiome is off on your skin many times you get displays of it being off with things like acne or other types of skin issues one of the things you can do to help balance out your microbiome on your skin is believe it or not you can first wash your skin with a stringent that kills everything but then you can use they actually have believe it or not probiotic sprays that you can use on your skin and some people have had success with those where they'll put these beneficial bacteria on their skin and they'll see positive changes to their acne you can just wipe shit on your face too that's a bad bacteria it doesn't work that way maybe you can wipe just shit on your face we tried that I actually haven't had a lot of people that I've helped us with it's very rare that we get a question that I'm like hey you know what I am a dermatologist I really most guys that are concerned with that most of them are around that 17 to 19 year old range and it's pretty normal I had bad acne in high school and my junior senior year going through puberty when I grew up hit about 20 I think it was almost a limit and I watched it slowly get better so the other thing to consider too is he says he avoids I said like bad zits every now and then the massive ones oh the big cystic ones he says he's avoiding common food intolerances here's something you need to understand with food intolerances they are very individual so there's the common food intolerances because when people have food intolerances they tend to have these typical ones dairy, gluten nuts, soy egg whites, those are the common ones but I've trained people who have intolerance like bananas or intolerance to red meat or intolerance to you know broccoli so you have to really what's a good test for him to go do he's done the elimination diet I wish I could talk to this guy to see how he did it because a real elimination diet you eliminate foods and then you eliminate other foods and you give yourself three weeks or longer without that particular food and then slowly reintroduce when you eliminate like products that you use like shampoos and soaps and all that as well kind of like introduce other ones and it takes a while dude, it takes a long time I have a young lady that I work with who it's taken us six months everything was fine, her digestion worked her body's feeling great but she's like my acne just won't go away and I'm like well let's see what happens let's give it some time and once later now she's starting to have the effects on her skin it's just you know what sucks here is like here we are answering it like we're a bunch of dermatologists which we are not but then it sucks because I don't even feel comfortable you go to dermatologist for your stress that's where I'm going you know it's like and I've had people before crack jokes before about some of the questions that people ask us and they're like they're not even doctors or they're not a dermatologist you know what shitty is I wish I could give you to a dermatologist and say go see your dermatologist and hopefully they're going to give you the answers and help you but the shitty part is they're the ones that just want to give you the creams and pills and things to help suppress it and in reality none of them ever talk or most of them don't ever talk about at least in my experience I've never had a dermatologist and being someone that's battled with psoriasis for you know 10 plus years now I've seen quite a few of them and it wasn't until just recently that I even start addressing my vitamin D deficiency and that should have been like one of the first things that they we just need somebody to reach out that's a dermatologist that like you know thinks that way and then that way we can start referring them to these types of professionals I would love to have like a team a virtual team of people that like can give quality answers you know for these types of things they almost never tell you dietary things when you go to the dermatologist you know where you go there you know acne and they don't tell you like well let's look at your diet in fact I've had many people tell me my dermatologist says my diet has nothing to do with this which is ridiculous to me of course your diet has to do with it affects everything it's what you put in your body every day that becomes a part of your body here's something you can try to you can try and I've had success with this with clients you can try starting off with the fast like a 24 48 hour fast you may break out more during this period because fasting does alter your microbiome and then do a plant based diet for a while for whatever reason and this is anecdotal but I've had it now with enough clients where when they switch their diet to more plant based where they're eating more greens more cooked vegetables less animal products no processed foods that seems to do the trick with a lot of people I had one person I trained a long time ago where we were like we couldn't figure it out like we don't know what it was and she did everything right and then she went almost vegan where she had some animal products but not much and it was very very plant based and her freaking acne like she her skin went from total acne to incredible so that's another option I really mess around with your diet because that that is going to have the biggest effect you know from my experience quick commercial break you guys we keep getting asked all the time how can I support the mine pump family here's one of the best ways you guys can you guys love that chimera coffee that we have chimera coffee with a K you go to chimeracoffee.com put in the discount code mine pump for 10% at the checkout if you guys have not tried Ben Greenfield's new bars out they're fantastic if you want some go to bengreenfieldfitness.com forward slash nature bite put in the code mine pump and get 10% off go check it out next question is from who is ZQ77 can you give some pointers on avoiding lower back strain when doing a standing military press almost certainly they're all tests they're probably pressing the way I used to press which is arch and lean back yeah you arch and lean back and you got to get underneath the bar and you're for sure this is like Justin just said this is our our compass test inside prime so in prime they'll you'll go through a three part test and this will tell you pass or fail so it'll give you specific movements to help with those mechanics I also talked I think this was last year when I was going through my whole shoulder mobility series and I was putting videos up on my Instagram of different shoulder mobility stuff that I would do and then getting to the point where I started off with behind the behind the neck pressing with just the bar because I couldn't do any weight and I slowly pressed you know 10 pounds and 20 pounds and 30 pounds and eventually 45s on each side but it took me a long time to have that that mobility of edge to be able to pull my shoulders back to press properly but if you're maintaining yeah that deep core connection you know like you just have to get in a place where you actually feel like what it's supposed to feel like and supporting your spine as you're lifting anything overhead and if you can't maintain your anterior pelvic tilt always wants to go into that position and you get the successive back arch you know let's work on that let's do the necessary exercises and isometric holds and these different type of tests that we've created in maps prime like go through that process and fix it you know it's going to take some time and work but you need to know what it feels like to have proper support you know pressing something else that was a good point with like a broomstick yeah that was a go to move of mine when I was working on the overhead press yeah it won't allow you to arch like that you just can't if you go into that position you'll fall backwards so it it's definitely an excellent way to start off so I would highly recommend adding z-presses into your routine put a lot of emphasis on the whole overhead holding part so if I was doing I would do a z-press after I z-press I would hold and stabilize above my head gather myself for good 3 to 5 seconds then pull down then press back up so the reps are real and like Sal said start with a really light weight first because you're just trying to work on mechanics so adding your z-press in there so z-press prime those would be the things but obviously the reason why it's straining your back is that if your joints were stacked and you were neutral and stable you should not feel that at all two areas that are most common with this or two issues like what we're talking about now your inability to get scapular retraction so you're not able to press directly above your head overhead carries help a lot with that like where you're holding one dumbbell or one kettlebell arm straight locked out bicep next to your ear so you're just one straight line and walking but also brace the shit out of your core pretend like someone's going to punch you in your stomach when you're overhead pressing and your back will stop hurting however if you don't have the ability to press straight up above your head then you'll find that when you brace your core you're unable to get the bar straight up above your head so you got to go way way lighter the good news is people typically progress quickly with this if you do this right within weeks you should be able to get to the point above your head and not have any issues and then you can start adding weight and then watch what happens to your shoulder development it's pretty awesome go to youtube subscribe to our channel we just posted a very cool video everybody should 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