 Big hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh. Name another podcast like this, we're gonna bring it to the table, boss top. Check it, check it, check it, this is Unique Hustler, she's your boy, E-C-E-O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing, official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? Nah, nah, my dad walk away. Say, man, it's crazy because this other name is the mess me up, man. The first time, you know what I'm saying? I know. Are you Jamaica thick? That is correct. What the hell, that's what I'm talking about, man. I got Miss Jamaica right here. I want to know, how did you get that name? The name was given to me when I started BBW Entertainment. I was real heavy on Rasta Farion, you know, and Bob Marley. I'm real big on it. OK. When I first came in, he saw the dress, he saw the Rasta colors and everything. He was like, man, I already know what your name is. We ain't even got to talk no more. He didn't give me a chance to audition or none. I had to do nothing. He was like, I know you're going to be fired. Just go ahead. That's your name. Go on on. Make a name for yourself. And you loved it. I loved it. That was it. That was it for me. That was it for me. How long now that's been in your name? Man, it's been probably like maybe eight years now. Jamaica thick on it big one time. That's the name. Man, so Makita Cookies? Oh, yeah. So that's a family business. But I mean, you know how we always do, man. We always talk about because we know how long that business been in you guys' family? It's been 22 years. It'd be 23 years this year. OK. Let's go back and then we'll go up, huh? Yes. But we want to know a little bit about you, not only just about the business as well. So tell us about how was it growing up in a household with entrepreneurs? Because your mom and dad, entrepreneurs, how was it as you being a child growing up in that atmosphere? Well, it didn't really start off like that. I'm 38 years old. My mom was a hard working woman. They were both, man, I think my dad, they're both in the medical field, actually. Oh, that's what they were doing before? That's what they were doing before. And Makita just came with my great-grandmother. She was one of the cooks in the city, Memphis City School system. So that's how we got the recipe. And my dad went with it. But growing up, it was mainly my mom working hard, my dad working hard, going to school, just to make sure my grades were good. We didn't really get Makita until I was like 14, 15 years old. What inspired them to do that? Actually, Makita, actually, that was my cousin. She died of leukemia when she was six. So my parents decided to open up a business in her honor. And we already had the recipe. And no one else had that recipe. Everything changed throughout the school system. So when they found it, when my great-grandmother passed it on, it was just like, man, we need to do these because no one else is doing them. See, I always hear about people, especially not hear about it, but you don't even watch movies. And you hear that this recipe was passed on from generations to generations where I've never actually met somebody who have said that. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think that's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. She worked really hard in the school system. So I mean, man, it's been an experience dealing with a lot of strong, wielded women in my family. A lot of powerful women from generation to generation. So to be able to be the one to carry that name and to carry that legacy, it means everything to me. I'm completely blessed. How many siblings do you have? I actually just have two other siblings. I have an older sister, Tamika. Shout out to my sister, Tamika. And I have a younger brother. So he's the only boy? He's the only boy? How old is he? Man, that's the prince of my kids. He owns the throne. I just want everybody to know about it. How old is he? He's 26. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's 26. And he has three beautiful kids. I love him so much. He's the only one with kids. All girls. It's one girl and two boys. Oh, OK. I just thought that all these girls coming down in your generation. Thanks, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, 15, you remember when the business first started off, did you? Because we've been here for 15 years. And our kids, they grew up in this store. Shout out to my son. He's somewhere in here. But he didn't really, these kids, they didn't want to participate. I forced it up on them. I gave it to him. I injected this whole culture onto them working, having your own business. And they was fighting it. They see their friends working for companies. They want to go work for another company. They don't want to work at a place what we've had seven stores here in Dallas. And it's just like trying to convince my children has been the hardest part of. Now, my younger kids, they grew up in it. But my older kids, they kind of was like you when you started. And they were like, OK, I see what he's doing. But I don't know if this is for me. So how was it for you just embracing the Makina cookies? Yeah, did you want to do it? No. There we go. I should have figured that. Man, I'm such a hard worker. I wasn't looking into being in the family business. I work extremely hard. Man, I've had so many jobs. I can't even, man, from wild greens to, man, what is it? One of those furniture places I can't remember. I think it's Renner Center, Family Dollar, man. I'd have been somewhere everywhere. The Post Office was the last stop. That's what I, you know, I was like, well, shoot. I've been wanting to be a part of the Post Office for a while. It's easy. Just put mail in the mail box, you know. But before you moved around to all those different places, you had to work at a shop and know the basics of how to run that shop. Yeah, yeah, I did. As much as you didn't want to be there, you still had to be there. Yeah, I didn't like it. Because you didn't like it. I didn't like it. As I said, as long as you live on the old roof, you have to do what we say. Yeah, it was certain times they made me go. That's what we do. But at the end of the day, when you did get older, when did you learn to, did you re-embrace it? Because a lot of times, like, I ain't gonna lie, I got to put him on the spot. My son, when he was 18, shot out to that boy over there. He told me, I'm going to the NFL. Yeah, when I had a store in the country, I said, man, what are we going to do with the store? He said, dad, I'm going to the NFL. And they go, what? So, and we had to close the store down. But anyway, down there. So, yeah, at 18, he kind of, but now he embraces it again. So when did you get back to saying, OK, I still can rock it? And what caused you to do that? Yeah, it was probably maybe around maybe four or five years ago. OK. Yeah. And what caused me is because I saw how hard my parents were working. And, you know, it comes a time when they need somebody to step up, you know, and I've had, you know, a two year degree in Southwest and things like that. So I did the, you know, the marketing and management account. So I was actually already blessed to be in a leader role. I mean, I was always brought up to be a leader, never a follower. So, I mean, my parents, when I saw how hard they were working and I knew his probably it's almost about their time for them to just cheer. They've been doing so much. And, you know, who better to step up? My brother, you know, he he got the tools, but I don't think he's just ready just yet. You know, it's going to take some time. So they look, you know, they look to me. So I was like, for sure. You know, and I just I quit the post office like that same day. She told me that she really wanted me to come aboard. I said, I'd be at St. Les Jean. I say, no, no. And I just put my two weeks in, told him I was gone. So I worked for my family. Wow. So the only place. So how many locations? Y'all had two locations? Yeah, we had two. We used to have three. We had one like in the East area, Sycamore View area. We had one that way. But we had the clothes that went down. Wasn't getting a lot of, a lot of people, a lot of traffic. So we had the one downtown for eight days a second. You know, then we closed for eight days a second. And then we moved to Jefferson, which is where we are now. We moved back there like I think October of 2021. Yeah, you know, so that situation now we just have one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, so you say now when you say that situation, talking about Young Dolph, I see you wearing the Dolph T-shirt. So you got that. You want you got that one made? This one actually was it was a guy that was selling sweatshirts. You know, and I saw him, I just had to have one. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So far, viewers and for the people who don't know, Makita Cookies is a place where Young Dolph was killed. How long has been now? About three months, maybe? Roughly, roughly. And so and and and, you know, we. Hey, man, you know, we hate to see that happen. It's shot. It's in shockwaves through just through out people who love music, people who watch what's going on with hip hop. You know, I had went viral talking about it before because a long time ago, before this even happened, because I was just telling, you know, young people. I was telling I was shot. Not actually Dolph and and Goddy about just going back and forth like they were doing because I was like, man, people hadn't, you know, I was like, man, if you hadn't been locked up or somebody going to end up dead. Or I was, you know, during that time, which I'm not saying that associates with this time, but I just was talking about just just people trying to come together. Yeah, trying to bring the people together. That's what I'm about. You know what I mean? Yeah. But because the God in me says everybody can get past their differences. That's that's the way I look at it. But at any rate, when when this thing first happened and we seen a video, I know I did with somebody's arm hanging out the window. Was that fake or was that real? As far as I know, it was real. OK. But before you say anything about that, were you there that day? I was not there that day. OK. I was not. None of that day at all. Location. No, I was at the other location. I don't know, because I seen you on the news. Yeah. Yeah. How the hell I see you on the news? A lot of people saw me on the news. I mean, that that situation, like, like, I mean, it had everything happened so fast. We got a phone call, my dad called, told us what was going on. And at first we thought it was somebody in the store, like one of the employees. That's what we thought for me and my mom, because everything was just happening so fast. He was talking fast. We heard his screams. So who was at the store that day? Who was working that day? It was one of my relatives, one of my cousins and two employees, two female employees. So your mama and dad was not even there at that location? They were not there at the time. No. OK. No, they weren't. So it just headed over there is when you have cameras in that car. Oh, yeah, it's cameras. Everything. So everything is caught on camera. Everything is caught. Everything from the time he walked in, everything is caught on camera. And the police have that footage in because they have everything. OK. Yeah. So when this happened, I mean, you know, I know they got cameras in there and all that, but did they did they confiscate the cameras or did they just ask for copies? No, they confiscated everything in there. Everything in the office they took. Wow. And and so, you know, when I when I first seen this, I'm not I'm going to be real with you when I started researching because me and you talk, I was like, man, let me go back and look. There was a video where when I put your name in, it pops up with you and you pretty much just showing homage to CMG. That video popped up first. I'm not playing. I'm telling you. So it's probably being searched more or whatever. But at any rate, what was that? Was that because we know they had differences? Was it what was the connection with you and CMG? There is no connection with me and CMG. So you were just saying that just because you rock with the music? Or I mean, when you're in Memphis, it's not a not a real OK. They got beat, so I'm a rock with this side. OK. You know, if you you like music, if music is music, then you're going to like whoever sings. That's what you're feeling. That's what you're feeling. You know, I can't, you know, talk on the beef they had, you know, because there was I'm not a part of that beef. I'm not, you know, hanging with one side and trying to be in beef with somebody on that opposite side. I don't do that. If I like your music, I just like your music. And at the time that that particular interview talking about my sister was doing it and we were interviewing the new the twins that are assigned to CMG. That's what we because he was probably a twin twin. Yeah, I heard you say that. That's the only thing. So I like, oh, man, I fuck with CMG. I said, just that's it. It went on. I was just it got it. How's the other day, man? We was just talking about them. None of it popped out. But they took me having a discussion, saying I rock with CMG and saying, OK, well, obviously she works with them more. She got to get a deal with him. I'm like, shit, I ain't seen no deal on it. Which I'll talk about. It was just I never mind if Goddy were to walk into the store. It'll probably take me a second to realize who he is. Because I don't really just see him unless I see him on YouTube or somewhere. I see him, you know, somebody posting. So he never never visited him. No, no, I've never seen him. Just hypothetically speaking, if a deal did come up and it was very lucrative, would you still take it? No. No, absolutely not. I don't know. It's not even because, you know, people be looking at it like this. I don't I mean, whatever kind of beef they claim and I have, I don't want to be a part of that. I don't want to be a part of anybody's beef or whatever you guys got going on. You hate one person. So the whole crew got ahead on type situation. I ain't without it, you know, and on top of that, I mean, I want to be, I want to be independent. I don't think anybody should be under anybody. I don't think anybody should control anybody. I think you should be independent. You know, put your own stuff out. Don't let somebody control when you do this, then the third, you should be able to do that. So that's one thing I actually looked up to when you came to Dallas. I mean, yeah, he, you know, he was promoting generational wealth. He was supporting black owned businesses. He was, I mean, he came back to his city. He didn't have to come back here. You know, he didn't have to come back to Memphis and show us love every time, every year. He didn't have to do that, but he did it, you know? So when, when, when I think about it, though, how, because you hear all these, all these, uh, conspiracy, uh, people talk about this or that and things that they say because, you know, I look at things and I'm like, man, you know, for him to be driving around in those areas, I know you guys probably were used to that, but from the outside looking in, you, you like, man, dang, like it's, it's like certain things. Like I had a homeboy to put up here the other day in his Lambo truck. He grew up here. It's not something that he'd do all the time. We was doing the show. And, um, but at the end of the day, that's like, he was like a sore thumb sticking out, you know, people that came by, see him walk by several times because of the vehicle that's parked there because of how expensive videos. So was it something that, that Dolph just done? Did he, when he would drive, he'd bring up, drive any kind of car up or whatever? Yeah, he was comfortable. I mean, that's your city. I mean, I don't know how it is in other cities and states, but in Memphis, my love is love with us. Like that's how he felt. You know, I'm in my hood, you know, I'm comfortable here. I don't want to be, you know, known as that multi-millionaire artist. You know, when I come home, I'm home and people see me as Adolf, you know, or they see me as Dolph, but they don't, they're not Stopstruck and so hung up on it. You know, I can come home. Yeah, but in every city, but in every city, you know, no matter how you feel that way, you're still going to have your haters there who wish they could be you because they're looking at your life and be like, man, I grew up with you. I went to school with you. I rap, too. I should be you right now. Yeah. You know what I mean? And hate. Or I worked for a city job and you making all this money. I mean, you would use been the same class together. And hell, you was, you quit or anything. I'm just saying, cause we all experienced that when you start to level up, you know what I mean? We see that. I seen it, you know, in certain things I can't say outside of this. Like when Nipsey got killed, you know, in front of his store, I've been there several times. I used to frequent there, but I knew that what I say outside of this door, driving the cars I drive, being the person I am, there are certain ways I have to carry myself because what I say amplifies to the person whoever it is that's in these parking lots. You know what I mean? So you just got to be very careful when you start to level up in the neighborhoods that you're from. Yeah, we speak about that all the time. Yeah. I don't think, you know, even though that, and then that could be true, but I just don't think he felt that way. I just, I mean, because, you know, Hey, I know what can I know who I'm beefing with. You know, obviously he know who you beefing with and everything. He knows this, but I don't think, you know, I think Dalf just had that kind of heart and that type of energy that he just didn't feel like that. He just did not feel like, Hey, I got to have, you know, six, seven goons with me just in case or man, I'm not going to get out the house at all. When I come home, I'm just going to send somebody to get something. You know what I'm saying? Like they said, he should have did. Yeah, I heard that a lot. That's something I hear a lot. But that's what they have to understand. Dalf has been coming to this store for 12 years. No, I'm stopped. So tell me something. Because we have a retail store, as you know. Yeah. Customers come in and out and we know them. But how much did you really know him? Because, you know, they come in, me chop it up a little bit and then leave. Come back the same thing. But how well did you really know him? That's, that's how we knew him. He just came in repeatedly. And after a while, you just develop that type of relationship where, you know, in Memphis, you know, you walk in the door more than once and our store, you consider family. We going to know you by name. And after a while when we say, hey, you know, what's up, Dalf? After a while, he's going to want to know our name, you know, because we constantly saying the same thing. He's constantly seeing our face. You know, we're seeing his face. And it just went on from there. So when he started coming in, it was a regular greet. What's up, Raven? What's up, Mama? You know, what's up, Pops? Let me get that. You know, that's how the conversation was. So true enough, no, we weren't going to Thanksgiving dinners or, you know, hey, I got some free tickets. Y'all come sit in the back with me type vibe. No, it was none of that. But when you look at the type of relationship we had when it came to a biz, my mom said she felt close to him because he was an entrepreneur. She's an entrepreneur. That's kind of how they link. You know, they're not to mention their birthdays the same. She just felt that connection. And that by itself meant a lot to her because she doesn't listen to his music. Obviously, I mean, she's 64 years old, but it's just the fact that, hey, you know, I see this man, this black man, he has all this money. You know, he has everything he could ever ask for. And yet he still finds time to come back home and walk into this shop and buy cookies. And, you know, like, it's, all right, I see y'all, you know, when I come back type situation. I mean, that's what meant a lot to us. Do you feel that it was something that was set up? Do you feel that way? I don't, but I mean, who am I to say? Or do you feel like it was just random? I feel like it was just some hatred and some jealousy. And like I say, everybody knew he was back. Everybody knew he was home. He made it clear, you know, that's the week he comes back to, you know, pass out turkeys. He does it every year, but it was already known he was in the city. I just feel like, you know, it was just a lot of hatred for him. I feel like it was a lot of jealousy involved. You know, everybody wanted, like I say, people want to be you when you get higher up and you probably, you don't have nothing. How long was he in the city before that day? What was told to me was like two days. He started out that week, that first, that beginning of that week, you know, that Monday, that Sunday or that Monday, you know, he went to the council center, show them love, you know what I'm saying? I think that was the day before the incident. So he was already here in Plainty. I mean, I think he had already passed out turkeys before that, you know? So, I mean, he was there for like a few, maybe a few days or so before, you know, everything before his assassination like that, yeah. But when you look at social media, and that's how I got to go by a lot of times, because that's how people depict a lot of things now. Which is sad. And I'm going to be honest with you. It's bad and good. I get the same, I get the same pressure over here on boss talk. So, but when I look at it, I see how does it make you feel when they say that like you and your boyfriend set up Dolf and you hear all of this stuff? So how does that make you feel? At first, you know, it was at first, when I first saw the first one, I was like, ain't nobody gonna believe that. I mean, why? I mean, what reason we have? What are y'all coming up with? Then here come others, you know, back to back, like, okay, I guess y'all do believe it. Cause here it is spreading like crazy. You know, then the situation with, you know, my artist being involved, you know, they did that out of the blue, you know what I'm saying? Like out of the blue. As soon as I mentioned my artist, now he's involved. You know, it's like when I mentioned somebody, now y'all want to add somebody, that person that I just mentioned. So when does the conspiracy stop? Like, so nobody ain't caught this yet. Like every day is something different. And every day they add something. They can't stick to just one conspiracy, you know? Now you got all kinds of stuff, a Luminati situation. You know, I'm pregnant with young Dahl's baby and that's the reason why I got rid of him, bro. What is that? I mean, you just hear all this crazy, unnecessary stuff when at the end of the day, just like everybody say, in my hood, in Memphis, you know? Dahl, at that point, he just got caught slipping and he was in a situation where he was just involved with some jealous people and some hating people and that's how he got hit. It could have happened anywhere in the city, you know? Because this wasn't their first attempt, you know? So I mean, I'm just saying, like I just, I couldn't see it. I couldn't see why anybody called, you know, wanted to accuse us out of everybody. Have you gotten any threats behind it? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, they started that night, you know, after everything was going, my call after call, you know, people, you know, threatening to kill my family, my nephews, they, I mean, it's been a lot, but I don't think anybody's ever showed up at the store, not that I know of, but, you know, calls, a lot of messages on our pages. My parents' personal numbers were put all over the web. That was a real headache, you know, because they got calls in the middle of the night, you know, which led my father to actually, you know, give protection, you know? My dad, my dad hates guns. And you know, the only thing he'll say is, nothing good comes from a gun because, you know, the person in front of it's gonna end up being a black man. And I don't want to be responsible killing my people. I just don't, you know? So that hurt him to have to do that. But, you know, we got so many crazy people out here, you don't know who's just playing with you or, you know, you don't know who's serious, you know? So it's just been, it's been a little, it's been a little rough, but, you know, as time goes, I've gotten stronger. I mean, what does God play a part in that? I mean, do you put God first in what you do now more? Does it bring you closer to Him? Or how do you deal with it? It's pretty much, you gotta be hectic. Well, it's a lot of meditation, I can say that. I do meditate. I'm a strong believer in the spiritual universe and things like, I'm a strong believer in the chakras. Seven chakras being online, all that energy, that positive energy that you have to instill in yourself to face another day. You know, but, you know, my family, we do believe in God. You know, we believe that He is the head of our life and He's the only one responsible for us. And He's also the only one responsible for our reputation. Can't nobody break that, you know what I'm saying? If He's gonna protect it. That's kinda how my mom looks at it. She's probably the strongest one. You know, shout out to my mom, Pamela Hill, I love you. Shout out Pamela. She's been the strongest one in all of this because everyone's been, I've been wanting to just lose it mentally, but just listening to her and saying, you don't need to just stop listening to them. It doesn't matter what they say. You know, what does God say? What is God telling you, you know? So, you know, hearing that and hearing how strong she's been throughout all of this is what it makes me stronger. It makes me wanna fight harder. So that's the reason why, you know, this fight is in me and people see me all the time. You see me all the time because you won't stop talking about me. I'm not gonna just let you keep talking and I'm not gonna address it or I'm not gonna speak up for myself or my family. I mean, this is my legacy that you're trying to destroy. So I can't allow anybody to do that. Let me ask you something. Like, what happens? What happens to the store, you know, cause we're in a strip mall and it looked like a strip mall that you guys, like a strip, but what happens to like, I know you guys had leases on the building type of stuff going on. So are you gotta have insurance, some kind of way tied to it. How does that affect in your, you know, far as the business? I know it's closed now, but you guys are taking the hell of a loss on that from the outside looking in, being a business on that. Cause you're still paying rent, right? We are still paying rent, lights, everything's still on and active in that building right now. And to answer your question about the insurance, they called the insurance first. That's the first thing we call, you know, to try to see what steps we gotta take because of what just happened. And unfortunately the insurance stated that they don't cover high profile murder cases like this. I believe it. I know, I believe that because they always looking for loopholes. I already know that I deal with them on business. You're gonna deal with insurance companies. Most people are, that's the thing that I need to do a whole segment on because most of the time commercial just businesses and stuff when they come down the insurance, they look for the loopholes. So you have to be keen on your business in order to even be able to keep up with, you know how I am and you know how to get over on me. We pay y'all so much. I remember when I was paying like 12 of $1,300 a month on just insurance. And then when something happened, they didn't want to cover it. That's the way, I don't know why society is like that but insurance companies are the worst when it comes down to that. So I could easily see them doing that in the midst of that. And then when you're not really used to dealing with them and they do that, it just crushes you already. It's like kicking somebody when they down, you know? So that's crazy. Okay, so what I wanna know, I know that you weren't there that day but your employees were. So from an account, from your employees standpoint, can you walk us through exactly what happened from the moment he walked in to the end? Well, what was told to me is that he walked in, he asked for two lemon and two strawberry cookies, like precise, that's what was told. And for some reason, he stepped to the side for a second. Nobody knows why, you know, they say he was on the phone. And he was to the side by himself? He was to the side. From what I'm hearing, his brother was with him. That was Mr. Marcus Thornton, that was the person that was identified, that was with him. So he was in the store, his brother was in the store with him. And the employee that was ringing them up, she said she just looked down for a second, she looked up, she saw two guys running straight towards the store. And she just literally just had one of those, oh my God, what the hell is about to go on? And she could see their guns in their hands? Yes, she saw it. And she literally just, her eyes, she said her eyes got so wide and she just froze for like a split second and then she just ran. She didn't say anything, she didn't scream. She couldn't, she said she was just so, just gone by the fact that she just see two guys running up with guns. But you know people gonna run with that. Oh, they already did that. Yeah, because she didn't say nothing. She said in my opinion, I'm just not brave. Yeah, they're trying to say they're looking for her. Oh, we're gonna look at, we're looking for the person that wronged them up cause obviously she said them up. No, that's not what happened. I mean, this was a young girl, she's never experienced anything like this. How old is she? She's 23 years old. She's never seen anything like that before. I mean, she went to therapy, she's in therapy for this stuff. How long you and she worked for y'all? I wanna say maybe three weeks before that incident. So not very long. In two or three weeks? No, not that long. That's why it could look a certain way. Yeah, but see the only thing is how would she be able to set them up? I mean. Because they could say things like, okay, you just said earlier that he comes back to town the same time, all the time for, not the same time though. For Turkey and to do all of the things, not the same time. So he doesn't come at the same time. No, he don't come at the exact time, that exact day. Not the same exact, around the same time? No, no, no. He doesn't. She wouldn't have known that he was gonna be there on that exact day. Was that her first time meeting him? That was her first time seeing him walk in the store. Seeing him walk in the store. That was her very first time. She's never really just seen him on a regular like that. You know what I'm saying? So she wouldn't have known anything about it. He doesn't call the shop and say, hey, I want my way. He doesn't do it. He's never called. He just comes up like a regular customer. Only reason why he's just different like that is because, hey, he's dull. And another thing that I know that I saw on social media or on YouTube was the fact that they said that the other young man that was with him, how comes he didn't get shot too if he was right by him? There was his brother? Yeah. There was his brother. And he said everything, huh? Yeah, yeah. Then that's a question I can't even answer for you. I don't know if that was God's will. We can't answer that. We can't answer why he didn't get hit and he was over there with that. We can't, you know, because they sprayed that store. I mean, everybody's trying to say it had the bullets are just right there with Doffield. That's not true either. Were you all able to see the cameras see the video footage before the police took it? No. No? No, we didn't have any opportunity to run anything back. As soon as the first cop responded, that's the first thing they grabbed. They didn't grab anything else. They wanted to get right on the case while it was still fresh. Maybe they can catch the people. Maybe, you know, that's the first thing my dad said, we got cameras. They're right here and they're in the back. They got him recorded saying it. You know, he went live and said, well, we got cameras. You know, whatever y'all need, we got it. And you know, if it weren't for the cameras, nobody would know who these people are anyway. Y'all see the freeze frame. So y'all, obviously, y'all know that the cameras are in police custody. Y'all see a freeze frame of them. You see a freeze frame of the car. So how would they get that? Y'all know that that's where it came from. So you said that, okay. So you had two employees and you said your cousin that worked there that day. So you said the employee rang him up, rewarded all the two people. They were in the kitchen, in the back. In the back, yeah. Okay, so after everything is all done and the person ran away, did they come back out? Yeah, well, this is the situation. What was told to me, I just go about what was told to me from the employees. Right, exactly. You know, as my cousin and second lady was, they were, you know, sealing up the cookies. You know, we got a little room, we sealed up cookies too. You know, you come out the kitchen, go in the room. All of it's connected, you know. So once they duck, you know, they, I mean, you hear gunshots, first thing you gonna do is leave the room and duck. You gonna do something to protect yourself. When they came up, you know, and realized that everything was done, they were gone. Then that's when they realized that the doctor didn't get up. So how long did it take your father to get over there? My dad literally was there like right after it happened. Like when that car sped off, my dad was literally pulling his car, you know, bagging his car in his, you know, his parking spot. Because he was coming to work. It was. Okay, yeah. So yeah, so he basically was coming to work. And when you think about it though, like I said, I just keep, you hear the stories of them trying to say that you guys, you know, pretty much was connected to Dolph's murder. So at the end of the day, it's like, okay, I hear what they're saying, but you know, you wasn't there. But then I can say, I seen you on the news. I don't know where you, where did you do that interview at? Where you- It was on the side, it was on the side of the building. Was that the same day? That was the exact same day. So you came over there too, that day? I came there with my, I was on my way with my mom because my mom wanted to go. She wanted to get over there and see what was going on. I mean, somebody obviously was just killed in a shop. You know, she was, she was frantic. You know, she was trying to figure out what was going on. Was anybody else hurt? Cause nobody wasn't really telling her anything. All we heard was that somebody was dead in a shop. We didn't know anything else. Into the second car when we were heading there. And then they told us it was Dolph, you know? Yeah. But by the time we got there, you know, we couldn't, of course, it's a crime scene. So we weren't there. We can't get over the tape. We can't talk to anybody about it. We just, my mom was just trying to get as close to something as possible because it was her shop. You know? Yeah, that's tough, man. Like I said, I don't know that that business come back, you know, for us at that location. I don't know. You know what I mean? Yeah. How long it's been there? It's 22 years. 22 years. 22 years. That's gotta come back. That's like this one. It's like the makeup. But would the community embrace it after that too? Why I will say it is they're asking for it to be back. It's a lot of people that want that shop to be opened again. I mean, why wouldn't you guys, you guys are in the center of Castellar. This is, I mean, why wouldn't you come back when there's something that people see? That's, Airways is a busy street. So to ride down Airways and not see Makita's, you know, a lot of people's like, man, that'll actually hurt, you know, because it's been around for so long. So why get rid of it now? I mean, a lot of people really want- So are you planning to reopen it? It's up to my dad. Yeah, Raven, like I said, I don't, I hate the way that they're doing you guys online because like I said, on there, you can almost paint a picture of you guys being totally connected to, you know what I mean? The negative side. If you want to look at it the other way you can, but that picture is drawn now. And you know, it don't just come down, you know what I mean? And then you guys, how do you guys move differently now that this has happened? We don't move differently. We do everything exactly the same. We have not changed. We get up, we go to work. We bake cookies. We have cookies in the stores down there in Memphis. All the grocery stores, they're still kicking. You know, I mean, we had a contract that we were actually about to sign before all of this even happened that we literally had to put on hold because all of this happened, you know? So- You can't say you don't move differently because I guarantee you you're more observative of your surroundings. We're more, we're observant, but we were always observant. I was always observant of my surroundings even before this. I mean, I mean, you, that's everywhere. You gotta be observant. So is it just like that down in Memphis? No, I mean, that's like that everywhere. You can't just necessarily say, I mean, yeah, I know y'all see Memphis, and you're like, damn. Yeah, I've been down there. You know what I'm saying? Y'all keep saying, oh, man, again, oh, man. But if you think about it, that's, I mean, that's just life, man. I mean, that's just, that's just the way it is. I can't say how it is in Texas. I can't say how it is over there. It's different when you grew up in a certain area, you're used to it. That's the same thing some people say about Jamaica. They say, in certain areas, we hear how y'all do it. You know, people be shooting, killing, you know. Yeah, I've heard a lot. Right, but it's not everywhere. But then when you're born and raised there, you don't think about it as anything. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think about it as, I mean, it's extremely serious. I mean, what's going on in Memphis right now is extremely serious and it's hard to watch, you know? Cause that is my city, you know? I weep for my city, you know, all the time. What about like Dolph's family or anybody, since it did happen there, have you guys reach out to his family or anything? As of right now, you know, we've talked to a spokesperson for them and we have had relatives come to the shop, you know, show us love, support us, you know, say we're here for you guys and all that. But as far as like his wife, Mia and his kids and his parents, we haven't had an opportunity to talk to them yet, but we definitely want to reach out. But I mean, what can you say? That's like the hardest thing to talk about, you know? I get it, with the internet moving as fast as it is on information, I just, you know, I don't know how, and I'm not in your shoes, but if I was, I don't know. You know, cause you don't want the wrong narrative out there, you know what I mean? Cause people are saying this and saying that and being that you guys, if you didn't have anything to do with it, you would think the proper thing would be to reach out to them and, you know, just tell them, Hey man, we love you if it's anything. And we have, like I said, we've talked to relatives. I mean, obviously I know they relate to message. I mean, I've talked to some of PRE artists, you know, that, you know, I've reached out to them, you know, just letting them know, you know, our condolences, man. We just want to show y'all love. We hear, you know, we so sorry that all this stuff had to go down. We've reached out to people that are connected to it all. The key locker in any of those guys from PRE ever come over to Makita's cookie? I've never really, I've never seen Key Lock come in. I can't tell you whether or not he probably was, you know, came in at the time or two with Dove when I went there. Like I said, he's came plenty of times, I wasn't even there. I can't really answer that. But, you know, the fact that, you know, the thing with Key Lock, you know, the fact that he did that video in front of that store, that speaks volumes to me. I just can't see anybody that feel like we had something to do with it during the whole video out in front of that shop. I can't see it. I don't know about anybody else, but of course, you know, you got your name, say it's all that don't mean anything. Well, it means a lot to us because my dad was proud to see that, you know. And I mean, however, everybody else is taking it, it's pretty much just social media. I don't think P.R.E. Camp, and I don't think Miss Mia, his wife, I don't think his parents even had a thought in their mind ever crossed that we were a part of this. You know, otherwise we would have heard about that. Some kind of way, something would have been said. And like I said, the streets of Memphis talk all the time. So, I mean, if we were, if anybody felt like in Memphis, like that powerful that we had something to do with it, I don't think I'd be sitting here talking to you right now. I don't think we, I mean, I think we'll be in some serious trouble physically. You know, I don't see us being able to open every day. I just don't see that. But you know, you just got people on the outskirts, like in Texas, you know, you got little bloggers. And then, you know, you got St. Louis bloggers. You got these folks just come, you know, just, you know, putting all these lies out here. And you got your, I call them cult followers. I just feel like, you know, most of these bloggers are like the Jim Jones or YouTube. Everybody just following y'all and don't even know what they following. And it's just giving y'all money and don't, they don't care what you say. It could be real or fake. It doesn't matter. It's the fact that you just entertain it. It's just, you just going and going. But it's causing my family pain and it's making us look bad. So, you know, at this point, it's pretty much do what you got to do. So. I want to ask about the, it was some, I heard it somewhere that your parents, like they, they eat, they ate over at. Perfect. Yeah. At that restaurant. Is that true or before all of this happened? Was they frequent in that restaurant? No, that one time and it was for a birthday party. I mean, what type of connection is that? I don't, I don't see it. So everybody eats there. So what does that mean? I mean, people have ate there before. Had birthday parties there before. What would that have to do with anything? I don't understand why that would even be brought up. That has nothing to do with Dove's murder. You know, everybody's trying to put that connection some kind of way to CMG, but there is no connection. We have never been in the company of them like that. We don't, we not no close connection. It's none of that is going on. We don't know these people besides how the world knows them. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, when you look at just growth, do you think you guys are, are you guys going to try to open up other stores? I knew you would get it back. Other locations like around Memphis, are y'all still trying to press to build that business up throughout? Well, the business, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to be honest with you, the business really hasn't suffered like people think. Did the skyrocket when this happened or did it scale? Yeah. I mean, I'm going to tell you and people going to look at, people been looking at this as bad. My dad said it, but people been looking at this as so terrible for him to say. But he said that he had a conversation with Dove. It was like a person come say she came in the store and my dad was by himself that day and Dove told him. He said, man, I'm going to do something for y'all. Man, I'm going to put y'all on the mount. I'm going to make y'all famous. That was two years before, you know, his assassination. I mean, so, you know, my dad was like, I thought he was talking about a music video or something. He was going to show Makita's, you know? I didn't think that even like now, and that's how we got to look at it. Like right now, this man is showing us so much love, but it's just, we just hate the way it had to happen. Yeah. But you do see that everybody is supporting us. Like people don't, it's a lot of people that don't even know us that feel like in the bottom of their heart, like out there, like it's no way we could have done that. It's no way we could have set that man or hurt that man. That man was supporting us. So I guess they feel like, you know, Dove, you know, thought you guys were good enough, you know, to support why, you know, Hey, we need to do the same thing. And that's what people have been doing. People just been reaching out. So the stuff that people are saying on the blogs, they may think that, I guess they think everybody's supposed to be with them. Like millions of people supposed to unite, you know? But no, that's not what's popping. You know, people got their own mind and they thinking for themselves and in their minds, they're thinking, no, absolutely not. Why would they do something this cruel? You know? Yeah, well, like I said, go ahead, I know you got that question. When they had arrested person of interest at first, did that even ease any of the tension that was coming y'all's way? No. So did it get worse? Oh, yeah. But they still wanted to make, and like I said, most of the stuff that I was seeing, it was just, it was you and your boyfriend or you and your artist. So, you know what I mean? Just did that type of person. Because you would think that that would took off some of the pressure because then, you know, they found somebody else. I'm like, okay, well, he did it, not y'all. Yeah. But they had to find some kind of connection to that. Have the, did the police investigate this question you? No. They pretty much didn't question you or nobody in your guys' family or not? The only ones they questioned were the ones that were in their towers or they had to make a statement. That was it. We haven't had to do any questioning because it's nothing to question because they have the footage. What's the point when we have everything right here in our face and we know is no way that you guys could have done this? If you could go back and is there anything in this whole process that you feel like you would have done differently? The only thing that I said and I said that on Skull Channel, just say no to Skull. Shout out to Skull. Shout out to Skull, man. That's my love. My love to Skull. I said that on his channel. The only thing that I felt like I should have done differently was I shouldn't have talked to the press when I did in the beginning. That was it. That video I did bring up. Yeah. And like I said, I'm kind of like the spokesperson for my family. So when my mom, because my mom was sitting on the side of me, she didn't want to talk. It was people just constantly coming up and getting, get a statement. Get a statement. And then you got folks come and saying, yeah, I got to say something, man. This just happened in y'all's shop. Y'all got to say something. And what people don't know, which I actually did stay on Skull, man, that interview was probably about 10, 15 minutes long. Y'all only saw two minutes. They chopped that interview up some serious. It was to the point when everybody started talking about it. I was like, damn, what did I say? I had to go back and listen to it because I'm trying to figure out how y'all come to this conclusion that we did it. What did I say? And when I went back, I'm like, hold up. I never told this lady that my dad was kneeling by Dove and tried to revive him. I never said that. Like, hold on, where you get that? Like, I'm just trying to figure out where they got that stuff from. So, you know, that right there, that's the only thing I feel bad about. Like, okay, well, I probably shouldn't. Yeah, and I apologized about that. I even apologized to the naysayers. I said, y'all, I'm sorry that y'all felt like I overstepped and I feel like that too. I apologize, y'all, but my family had nothing to do with this. You think they wanted to hear that? But they ain't trying to hear that. Did your parents feel like it was like, man, you shouldn't have said that? No, no, they didn't say that. They watched it just like I watched it. And they was like, well, why did they say you said that? I said, I don't even know. My dad said the same thing I said. Why would they say that? Because I didn't tell them that, you know? So it came, I just got to watch media all the way around, look like, because I didn't know the news live for ratings too. I'm like, damn, okay, I'm looking at, y'all don't want to boost y'all ratings though, cause y'all were the first ones that got the interviews. Oh, we got to hurry up, put that in, just block that out, block that out, take that out. It looked like what y'all did. And I'm like, whoa, y'all just kind of opened up. I know I helped y'all, but y'all really just opened up something that we probably won't be able to close, you know? And here we are now, can't close it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna take some time though. It's gonna take some time. It's just only three months. Might take a year. It's gonna take some time and a lot of lawsuits, cause I'm planning on taking a lot of vlogs. So that's your next step? Oh yeah, yeah, it's this time. Are you gonna do a Cardi B? I don't even want money. I don't want any money. Shout out to Cardi B though, for opening that door, because I feel like now that she's opened that door, it's gonna open that door to a lot of people that are gonna comfort these people, you know? So when she did that, it helped. I was already talking about taking the paper before Cardi B even came out and she did, I didn't even know that was going on. But I was talking about taking pages like maybe two weeks before, you know, two weeks when it started happening. I'm like, oh, I'm definitely coming for y'all cause y'all just lying. And I can't hear y'all lying on my family, especially my parents. I was straight with me. I probably just sucked this up. Okay, they got me on the camera. I messed up. Okay, I just suck it up, right? Just suck it up. But when you come for two hard-working people, 22 years in a game, build something from nothing. And you trying to step on their name and cause all this chaos and all these conspiracies with my parents, I don't do that. I can't let you get away with that. So it's like, I got to fight for them no matter what. And that's where we are. That's why they going so, they going harder than that. Cause they know I got what it takes and I got their power to do it. I'm never gonna come on your show. Why would I do that? You and your panel already are saying that I'm guilty. Why would I, that's like being in front of a firing squad, try to tell them, hold on, wait a minute, you know? I'm not gonna do that. I'm just gonna strike your page, which I've done a few times, a couple of folks are in trouble now with YouTube. Now that I've gotten your attention, since you don't want to stop, you feel like, okay, I'm just gonna keep poking the bird. And you know what I'm saying? So I'm a bull, I'm a Taurus. So when you come for me, I see that red little flag that you throwing up. Oh, I'm finna charge. And that's exactly what's finna happen. I'm just, I got to take, I got to get rid of y'all. Cause I don't want y'all doing this to nobody else. I don't feel like it's fair. So have you started those lawsuits? Oh yeah, yes ma'am. I got every single death threat that I've gotten. I've gotten recordings of people threatening me. I've gotten- Because of the lawsuits? No, not because of the lawsuits, I'm talking about because of the young dog assassination. I've got everything. I recorded everything. And I just said it to my lord. So you're serving some of those people too? Oh yeah, it's over with. So they- How many cases do you have? At this point now, it's probably like maybe seven or eight, you know? I haven't even looked at all the other bloggers, you know? I just know it's like seven or eight main ones that I know talk about me every single day. You spend four or five hours talking about me and my parents. And it's just the sickest thing I've ever seen. Then you got people cheering you on, you know, while they're doing it. I've been called a bitch a whole, you've been calling me all this crap and you got black women. Just yeah, man, get that bitch. Hold on, bro, wait a minute. So y'all, okay, so this is what we're doing. So y'all okay with a black man calling a black woman a bitch. Don't know me, never met me, but that's what I am. I'm one of them. Y'all know how y'all feel about their words. Somebody call y'all that, you know, out of anger or out of hate. So why y'all think it's okay for them to do it because you believe everything they say? Like, come on, man, that's- I never really just felt like this bad for my people before, I guess, because I'm under the bus now, you know? And the fact that I see that so many people, the same color is me and all you're doing is, you right along with everybody else, cheering on, I hope y'all business fail, you know? But my mom always say this, she say, you know, so many, we got so many people that hate us as against us, but, you know, they can't fight God. It's impossible, you know? So why they keep doing all this hate toilet? Guess what God doing? Protecting and blessing, protecting and blessing. She say it every day, he just protecting and blessing. You see what's going on, right? You see, we trying to get these cookies out and all over the place. People wanna franchise with us. It's just protecting and blessing, that's all we get. So just let them talk, you know? She was telling me, let them talk. That's what, in the beginning. But then she started saying, her name, come on. Now. She was like, so what I need to do, Ryan, what we gonna, you talking to the lawyers? You know, she read it from now, she read it. She said, yeah, go ahead and get rid of that. Yeah, we gotta go and get that down. You know, because, you know, you, come on man, attack me, but not my family, you know? In the case like this, did you have to go find those lawyers or did those lawyers reach out to you? We already had a lawyer. Okay, cause you know how in some high profile stuff, you know, they might reach out to you and like it. Well, if you need some help, here I am. Yeah, we had a family, we already have a family lawyer that take care of everything, corporate matters, anything dealing with the business, anything, she takes care of it. She's already on it. And when we just ready for the process to begin. Where is that store that's still open, the shop that's still open? It's 301 Jefferson Avenue is downtown, the downtown location of Memphis, yeah. Wow, and that one been there how long? We just over now, actually in October, October. We closed the 488 South Second when there was downtown. And we was there for five years. Then we moved from there cause we needed a bigger location. We about to, I mean, when I tell y'all before, you know, the assassination of doubt, everything was good. We were getting contracts. Everything was flowing. You know, we had more people wanting to buy cookies to sell in their stores. We had to have a bigger space. So we moved from that location to a bigger location. And that one's been open ever since October. And we did a grant opening November the 6th. Okay. Well, I'll tell you, man, like I said, we appreciate you for coming on the show, man. I think, you know, like I said, I don't think I can say it's just keep God first, man. Like that's the most important thing for me, for me to you, you know. And, you know, pray and meditate like you was talking about earlier, man. You, like I said, we appreciate you for coming up, man. And I don't know, you know, like I said, trouble don't last all ways. And at the end of the day, there's light at the end of the tunnel. So all you got to do is just keep on holding on to God's unchanging hand. And like I said, I'm gonna keep your family in prayer, you know, because you guys are business owners like me, entrepreneur's. And it's not easy to even stand alone out here. And like I said, we've been here 15 years, but it hadn't been easy. We've closed some, opened some, moved some, did everything to stay in business. So I definitely understand when it comes down to your business going through something like that. This store flooded one time. We lost all kind of stuff. I can name story after story. So I definitely understand, you know, having to go through testing trials, okay? So thank you for coming on the show. Do you got everything you need? Well, let me, let me shout out, let me shout out to my parents. She want to shout it out. I got to show my parents some love. My recent family here, love Makita, Tommy, but because man, the strongest people I've ever met in my entire life. I love you guys so much. Thank you guys for just believing in me, wanting me to take over and show love. I'm excited and I can't wait, you know, for when it's time for y'all to pass that torch to me. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to our management, TML, and I don't want to trick-or-treat my artist, man, form Freckles, man, shout out to you guys. Y'all doing the beat, but I just say, you know, the scope. You know, I'm, man, I'm, I'm blessed, man. Boss talk, man, one-on-one, man, I appreciate y'all. Y'all, you gonna hype me up, then? We blessed, man. We blessed. That's me in it right now. All you had to do was say Boss Talk, one-on-one. Man, we blessed out here. Everything changed. We blessed out here, man. It's man love, and I just appreciate you guys. And man, as far as the bloggers, y'all know what's up. Man, just keep your head up, man, and you know y'all always got a place here at Boss Talk, one-on-one, man, what a boss talk, right? Boss Talk, one-on-one is going down. So one thing I can say, man, just keep on keeping your head up. Like I said, don't give up on your business. Everybody, other people need to see our black constituencies, you know, pushing to be in this cause we don't have a lot. Even though it looked like everybody black, we don't have a lot, man. So thank you so much for coming on the show. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk, one-on-one. In reality.