 The Cube at OpenStack Summit at Atlanta 2014 is brought to you by Brocade. Say goodbye to the status quo and hello to Brocade. And Red Hat. Here are your hosts, John Furrier and Stu Miniman. Welcome back everyone, live in Atlanta for the OpenStack Summit. This is Silicon Angles The Cube. We'll go out to the events, check this in the from the noise. I'm John Furrier, Stu Miniman. Stu, wrap up for day three, our final day, three days of wall-to-wall coverage. Again, another Cube came in, we came, we saw, we kicked some butt, did a lot of interviews. Great commentary, not a lot of customers. We wanted to see, we hope to see some customers, not a lot, but let's put a bow on the show and let's kind of summarize what we found. I'll just start at the high level for me. I think it really is about the debate around organic community growth with the big players involved. I think what you're seeing with OpenStack is, Stu, you're seeing an absolute solidarity around the community. Developers are here, operators are here, you've got users and developers together. This is a DevOps show, clearly a DevOps show. This is the future of the open cloud, Amazon, OpenStack, mixing in a lot of enterprise grade kind of messaging and all those components. So certainly a DevOps show. HP and IBM here in force, HP has more than IBM. IBM's people are here, but HP's got hundreds of people, this is really HP's coming out party in my mind, of really coming in saying we want to participate. They threw a high class party last night, very high quality, which is, they're known for high quality, so I was very impressed with that. They've been active in the sessions and active in the community, so that was key. But also Red Hat, right? So Red Hat, making a big presence here, and then I'll see today's Wall Street Journal article, really try to drop the bomb on them. I think that's an indication that Red Hat is winning. When you see the negative articles coming out, especially from the Wall Street Journal, which was weeks under construction, they did that story over a couple of weeks. Comprehensive article, we're going to dig into it, but I think it's a little bit off base. That being said, Red Hat is getting a lot of attention. So Stu, what is your take on all of this? Yeah, so John, first, open source is just such a growing force in the industry right now. What I loved is that one of the keynotes Dave Meyer brought to us is we used to have the triangle and say, I need good, fast, cheap. And now it's fast, fast, fast. Many people said if I can get fast, I can actually catch up on any of those other things. So why are all companies that are here embracing open source? Last week we're at EMC World and I got a great line from Paul Moritz. And he said, why do we embrace open source? It's because customers want solutions that can be standardized. And just the old way of doing things with standards just takes too long. So Pivotal obviously is embracing open source, but then you look at another piece of the federation, VMware really has, since the NYC acquisition, they moved further away from open source. VMware helped create the neutron stack here, but then the community has taken it over. And VMware, while they're still working on pieces of it, they have not really embraced open source. And there are still large parts of the ecosystem here at OpenStack that position as an alternative to VMware or VMware not as the partner of choice. But other companies like, in the networking space, Cisco, and Brocade's stepping up big time, pushing into the open source environment because if we want to create change in the next three to five years, we can't do things the old way, we need to move faster. The question I asked everyone pretty much on the cubes too was what do you think is going on in the industry? And the consistent answer is, this is the cloud, the cloud is real, OpenStack is real. OpenStack is real, it's happening. There's way too much substantive conversations and momentum going on. Now, to debate on where in the hype cycle it is, we heard from the ex-gartner, who he believes is truly not even in close to sliding into the trough of disillusionment, that's still got to come with metrics as the key thing. And I think that is really what it's all about. The foundation, pun intended, is set for the future. And I think what gets built on that foundation at OpenStack will be a basis of what the industry will look like for the next couple of decades. In my opinion, that is the best news I think coming out of the show is that we're going to see an industry get created. And when we start to see metrics around this show and around this industry, where you're talking about total addressable market, TAM, as that's referred to, market share, customer deployments versus lines of code, then you're going to start to see it. And I think that is something that we start to see in a much more of a ramping up cycle out of the trough of disillusionment to use the Gartner analogy. I think that's going to be the key things to do. And I think that certainly the megatrends of data, mobile, social, it's all going down on top of the cloud. Yeah, and John, I'm a little surprised this week that we didn't hear as much contention as I expected. So there's a lot of projects in OpenStack. Nova is solid, Swift was the first storage solution is solid, Cinder's come along well and is doing good. Solemn, I think I heard mentioned once out of all the interviews that we did this week, how would Solemn, really if it's a past solution, compete with things like OpenShift from Red Hat to Pivotal, Cloud Foundry. And there's a lot of projects and what will move forward. Heat is really gaining a lot of traction to move across orchestration and solutions, I believe it's Trove is database as a service. So helping to build that foundational layer and then start adding pieces above it to give IT just a broad tool set to be able to build that next generation of infrastructure in IT. Well, this is theCUBE, we're here at OpenStacks too. Any final parting words, I thought it was a great event. We had great interviews, loved the commentary, I loved the excitement. And again, we would not be here if it was not for Red Hat and Brocade who stepped up to support us with some sponsorship to get here and we're excited to and we hope to see everyone in Paris. We have a lot of good indications about Paris. Yeah, John, one comment, this is very different from most of the shows that we cover. This is, it's an industry show but a lot of the people that come to this go to all the shows. Everybody I talked to here, I'd say half the people were at Hong Kong and those same half of people are also going to Paris. So the developers are all going every six months and participating in this. I'd like to see by the time we get to the US show next year that you get more users and operators that are coming. Diane from Red Hat talked about that we need to focus on training and hands-on. I mean, it's been a while since I've been to a tech show where there's not big labs where people are getting their hands dirty. So we need transitioning from building open stack to really building out those deployments, getting the stuff in the operator's hands, fine-tuning some of the things and then we can get more practitioners to really share their stories, new business value that they're creating because there are some cool stories. Like the digital tree guy that we had on from Hollywood. Dave Meyer was talking about Xfinity from Comcast. These are the type of technologies that are going to help power the industrial internet and sensors around the world. We had a guy who was in space on theCUBE. Mark Shuttleworth, founder of Buntu was on. He was on the space station. I mean, this is a new, a CUBE first. Any other highlights, Stu? I mean, so many, John. It's some really good thought leaders in this space. Yeah, I just learned a lot and it's still, I'm not ready to say that open stack's taking over the world, but it's an important place and it's making its mark as to where the ecosystem is and it's about the solutions that the companies are going to build off of it. So, you know, most IT shops are not saying, you know, I want open source because it's open source. They're saying open source is going to help build the technologies out there and, you know, it's companies like HP who's got 1,000 people working on their cloud. It's IBM, it's Red Hat that are going to help, you know, pull together those solutions and help the enterprise get this done to be able to, you know, build the hybrid cloud of the future. Okay, Stu, it's great to have you on. You did a great job. I would say your analysis was phenomenal this week. You got to say you're totally plugged into the cloud and that's pretty obvious because now it's not just in your wheelhouse or network. It's all the way up the top of the stack and you got it. This is right in the Wikibon wheelhouse. And I always say to Dave, this is storage at the center of the value proposition. And again, it proves that out. Yeah, and John, you know, you've been preaching about DevOps for years now. And I mean, really it's come into fruition. Stu, I was there when Rackspace started OpenStack. I was there prior when they were trying to get this developer initiative on board developers. And Rackspace knew at the beginning that for them to be successful building the cloud, they had their own needs. And the future sometimes is invented by people having their own needs. In this case, Rackspace didn't have a lot of developers. They were trying to recruit developers and they realized that they had to essentially do with the community. So hats off to Rackspace. And then, you know, I just got to say, you know, HP's been impressive, IBM's been impressive. But I think this community will work, Stu, with the big guys and the community. So it's exciting to see the horses are on the track, the cars are on the track, whatever metaphor. I think it's not even national anthem on the baseball analogy. West Coast offense, whatever you want to call it, it's going crazy here at OpenStack. It's hyped up. Cats and dogs living together, mass pandemonium. You know, it's ghostbusters all over the place, Stu. This is exciting. So I personally think it's going to be big. And I want to thank the crew here. Guys did a great job. Mick, Andrew, Matt, and of course, everyone else at home blogging and tweeting. And of course, the crowd chat was phenomenal. With hundreds of people on concurrence all week, crowdchat.net's our new innovative engagement container. Check it out, crowdchat.net slash OpenStack. That's the transcript of all the conversations here at OpenStack. So with that, I want to say thanks for watching and we'll see you in our next event. This is theCUBE, signing off from Atlanta.