 This is Mike with the 21 report. We're behind the scenes in Orlando, Florida for the 21 convention 2017 10-year anniversary event sitting alongside Goldman Goldman. Welcome to the show. Hey, man. Thanks. Thanks for having me It's great to have you here. All right, so before we get into some questions I was wondering if you could give us a brief overview of your talk and why you chose to talk about it It was how to live a life of self-expression Because everything that I've learned since I got into this community, you know First it was game the fun stuff picking up girls and then it was the red pill got deeper into it But it was it turned into more than just meeting girls because then I was able You know, I was like sexually I could do what I wanted The frustration wasn't there anymore where I've been frustrated my whole entire 20s and then when that was finally let free I was able to finally be myself and So that's what I've learned the most after the person after About eight years of doing this the biggest Benefit to my life with self-expression and having that ability now whereas before I didn't have it awesome So when you're meeting someone for the first time, yeah, and they ask you the question What do you do? How do you respond to that? I Usually I just say I'm an artist and we'll leave it that I don't like talking about my work. Yeah Yeah, that's a that's the usual go-to question unless I'm feeling more comfortable otherwise, and if they ask what kind of art I guess that's when you'd you'd go in I say I don't like talking about That's the first time because I have to get to know them and then if they earn my trust. Yeah, they can see what I do Awesome. Yeah, cool. So you've been called the Indiana Jones of the red pill. Yeah, apart from the hat The obvious thing. Yeah, why do you think that is? I think because I am on a search I mean the treasure is the meaning in life And I am on a clear and obvious search for meaning whether I travel in different parts of the world To do ayahuasca whether I'm meeting women and trying to understand them psychologically Trying to find my place in the world I'm on a quest for some meaning and I think that just comes through my energy in my writing is like you can always Tell that I'm looking for something Have you always been that way on this quest? Yeah, I mean a lot of it has to do with my personality a lot of it has to do with my upbringing My father always pushed me to do this The religion I grew up in was a very weird kind of cultist religion, but they're always on a search for truth So yeah, it's I've always been like this man He's been a little bit on the wild side and just yeah always just been a horny bastard So this quest has caused you to you know travel all around the world Yeah, what piece of advice would you give to anyone who wants to you know get outside their comfort zone and go travel? Go by yourself. I would say definitely take a trip somewhere alone I love Mexico because it's so like wild and kind of crazy and free and it's a little bit dangerous So you got to be you got to keep your wits about you all the time So just say go by yourself don't go just on a mission to get laid I go like do your proper research Whatever you're interested in like I'm a huge nature and art fan So whatever place I go to first thing I look up is the natural wonders. Is there hot springs or their caves somewhere? I can explore the second thing I look up is like their famous museums And then then the third thing Shockingly is like the best bars and clubs, but number one and two is nature and art those are coming Those are at the forefront of my life, then the girls can squeeze their way in so how did you initially get involved in game and When did you first discover the red pill? Oh this question I Got alright, so game. There is an article on my blog that everybody should read. It's called it What led me to game it was fucking a fat girl. That's what the article is called. You can look it up It's exactly what it sounds like I was on a road trip with a buddy of mine And we were really into couch surfing. This is like 2007 2008 and You know couch surfing you can look up like criteria like 1824 year-old girls And like it was just like online dating back in the day So we found this hot dancer chicks like really really hot and we found you were like yeah She accepted our request. We're like woohoo. Yeah, it's gonna be fun We met her in public because that's what you usually did with couch surfing So she was there looking super hot and then next to her was her sister Who was like really this big? And I we ended up they knew all the bars in town. We ended up getting super fucked up Read the story of my blog because it's it's too much. I ended up sleeping with her woke up dismal Just like what is my life come to like I can't believe I let myself do this and then the next night We were in Vegas and I was like all right I'm gonna go fuck a hot girl now and I couldn't approach so went back to the hotel googled how to pick up girls That's how I got into game and the red pill the red pill so with game it was I Started reading as many books as possible So of course I came across like Rolo and Roosh and Krauser and hearties like you know the main guys yeah back in like round 2010 So I found them and then especially with Rolo I mean I found his writing and I was just like he's putting everything together Like this is way more than just pick up. This is actual like it's it's meaning and something It's it's showing me how everything really works So that's that was the red pill and then I stuck with red pill. I mean I Game and pick up. I don't need anymore because I've got my own style now But red pill I'm still like reading it reading it reading it So you mentioned in your talk that you started out as quite socially Anxious what what's the one piece advice you give to someone who wants to break free of that? It depends how on how bad it is because I know as we were coming up to the studio today I told you I was unable to speak in public. Yeah, all right So this was one up early on in college literally got up in front of the class Not even that many people 20 people and my throat closed up and then I couldn't talk So I had to get off that happened three times and I was like I'm not going to be able to go through college if I don't get over this and that's how bad it was So that the first thing I did I took it was just a group. It was like a Support group and so took that and it was like slowly baby steps Whereas finally I was able to give presentations in college. So that was a number one. That's if you had it really bad Number two is one of my classes in College was acting or just acting 101 my god when I took that and then learning improv and just like again Express yourself. Yeah, it was like the first time I was able to let it come out So that was another thing an acting class. Awesome. So Goldman This was your first time speaking at the 21 convention. Yeah, gotta ask. How's your experience been so far? Oh, it's been fantastic, man. Everybody I've met like we're really here is very very genuine It's Yeah, it's it's been great I mean we're having so much fun at night like the speakers are great during the day The guys are learning a lot the night the party's been so much fun I've met tons of girls, but it's been cool. The guys have been awesome awesome So if people want to learn more about you you're writing your work. Where's the best place they can go? My main blog is Goldman unleashed calm and then I'm also very active on Twitter and it's at Goldman unleashed and Instagram at Goldman unleashed Those are the three main places brilliant So with that you can see Goldman's talk first on 21 University comm all by clicking on the link below this video Goldman. Thank you once again for being here Thank you, sir. It's been great having you so this is Mike with Goldman signing off for the 21 report Thank you