 chat what's up man youtube what's up this is the needed podcast episode 65 65 weeks man i've been dealing with y'all and y'all been dealing with me talking about the john madden football i appreciate y'all being in the chat i appreciate y'all watching this on youtube please hit the like button man last week we got a great opportunity to talk to problem and about you know me playing dc my games i played also about the sub only chat my chat as you see it right here man it's definitely it is in sub only mode for the chat because man if you guys want to be a part of this if you want to be a part of the podcast you guys want to be a part of you know this content that i do sub only you can watch these lives twitch that's tv slash dub dot tuesday night's what's up boys how y'all making out how's it going man are you guys ready for this dc tournament this week um it's weird when you get to this point of man i was thinking about this as i was lovin up i was actually watching the sixers a little bit before this getting ready for the show and just put my thoughts together i was looking over the groups and and uh one thing that's crazy is that right there's 16 people left in the dc tournament right there's 16 people left so other than those 16 people everybody else doesn't really give a shit about that mode anymore you know what i'm saying like i shot the alpha with this up like after after you lost that mode it's time to focus on the other one so of the let's say there's 500 competitive players 490 of us are worried about the next mode man that's where our focus is and it's crazy to think that you know that there's a major going on but there's only 16 people really playing that mode anymore which is kind of nuts but that and that goes to the fact that lcq is live and and one thing i did put out a tweet uh a couple days earlier and it was like why do you not want to compete in lcq and this is to everybody because man uh i got tons of following on every social media there's tons of people that watch man there's tons of people that you know love mutt and i asked my like for me as a human and obviously you guys chat man you guys watch the competitive people the most competitive people in the world and to me it's like why do you not want to compete why do you not have the same fire that i have and it's curious to me or i'm curious about that fact to other people so often i so i asked why do you not want to compete in last chance in lcq why do you not want to play against the best players man and uh one thing that as we step back as man players man the whole the whole uh yeah that's what i'm saying right now as you say that um the whole process of making a salary cap team is a little a lot of confusing really and and i feel like man if you don't stay up to date with madden and salary caps and and uh you know mutt in general if you don't stay up to date with that you you have no shot at just popping out nowhere making a team but for me uh i'm okay with that because i invest my life in the man i feel like somebody that wants to part-time do it it should be hard for them to do that i mean it should be difficult you know the amount of time and energy that we as madden players put into the game shouldn't be able to be replicated by some casual that just wants to try to compete out of nowhere you know so for me it's like it does cost a lot of money um for salary cap it does it's crazy to think that like when you limit the team it costs more than when you let anybody out there you know yeah team building is what makes it i don't it's not addictive but it's crazy that uh yesterday else i probably played 10 games of salary cap if you guys watched but at the same time you know four hours before that i just sat here with my boys talking about how can i make my team better you know how can i improve the team whereas my weakness on the team wears you know where can i downgrade where can i upgrade and that type of thing and comparing my team to others and it's just fun it's just it's like a puzzle and you want to try to find that perfect puzzle piece and you're never quite done the puzzle but it is really tough to um to be a part of this the salary cap thing if you're not fully invested man just to be honest i bought five million coins yesterday i think i only got a million left crazy crazy yeah for sure it's definitely fun um so uh for me it's like i don't know if salary cap and this goes back to the the the discussion we have all the time man is salary cap it really the mode that's going to take this to the next level man because it's so god damn confusing and i asked you this does it does and i had this talk with my man ken all the time man like does the amount of people playing madden like trying to compete make it a bigger spectacle does it make it better to watch when more people are playing or ultimately is it cool if it's the same hundred people playing you know also do you think that's what i'm saying like i mean is there a positive for everybody being able to compete you know as far i i feel like at the same time it could be successful when it's only the same hundred people playing i think it can still be successful man you know what i'm saying i i i feel like there's positives and negatives so everybody being able to compete and there's positive and negatives to to just only the elite people being able to compete you know i i as someone that really i don't think mad is that at all i don't think i think madden is the furthest from that it's ever been in my in my four years of like playing madden like as a professional like i feel like this is the most poppin madden has been period i don't even think it's close honestly i think madden is really poppin mad but that can't but that's and he says there's two of you guys are reading it but to me it's like mad madden is is too complex in general just the game itself really it really is you know show them my man path with the gifts and with the gifted subs i do feel like yeah but lcq maybe that's why lcq is good because it is like an elite of the elite leaderboard honestly and velvet and this is one of the guys and there's so many people that play man and i'll tell you one of the biggest lessons i can give you guys is man just go out there and try because i was always tough i'm talking from when i was 16 to now i was always the same i i mean now i know more because i have more friends that help me you know but i was always tough at the game but i was always like you guys a little hesitant to go compete a little hesitant to kind of spend my money or my time to compete so that kind of held me back for 10 years of playing madden you know so the one one bit of advice i'll give you guys is man don't let any of that hold you back don't let negative things like i can't compete or i don't know if i could try like don't let that hold you back from from really becoming a better player really i do think ultimately the game uh the game is the game madden's too complicated in general like honestly in the grand scheme of compared to other games it's really complicated honestly can't can't has really turned into a a reddit and there are more people know the new shit because of the internet the people that blame the internet on the why madden's bad is is i wouldn't those people are just the just the scum buckets of the internet oh you're only good because the ebooks and youtube that's you know that the internet really madden like people like that are unreal man insane man yeah i just i mean i just do lcq i mean if you guys don't know it and one thing i get when i make these posts about lcq is 20% people don't even know what the hell it is you know and really i guess that's not our job chat is that my job to you know is that my job to convey that message to everybody else is that my job to um to help people learn what it is you know is that part of my job no seriously is that part of my would you guys look for me to be somebody that does that i'm saying um yes and and so we're talking about call duty everybody's playing open brackets that's what the man classic was the man classic was you pay you show up you play that's it there is there is no leaderboard there's nothing you show up you play i'm 16 you're right i do think it should be some type of advertisement again there should be listen this is how i feel about the mcs when they drop a new promo chat when they drop a new promo do they not have the step-by-step guides here's your 80 overall you can quick sell this will get you started and here's the card you can quick sell which tells you exactly where to go can they not put a prompt in the game to say if you want to compete boom press a this is the leaderboard you go to boom i think that would be just as easy as it is for them to teach us how to use the new promo you know but i i i mean i do want to tell people the last chance is the last it's exactly where it is it is the last chance qualifier so what it is is that pretty much by the end of this tournament that we're going to talk about in a couple minutes here by the end of this tournament the entire field of med and bull will be filled out other than two spots so both playstation and xbox will have one tournament to decide who those last two people are it's really fun because it's literally the last chance for some of these pros some of these people that uh are not in med and bull have not made the biggest that one thing about man bull after the club series gives away as i go on a tangent but after the club series gives away 700 grand it's kind of a little tough to get up for the other tournaments now even this tournament is weekend the winner gets 30 grand which is great i would love it and we're grateful for it but after they give away 700 grand it's like it kind of downgrades the other tournaments a little bit you know what i'm saying chat i feel like it almost would be better if all four tournaments were just equal payouts you know it's how did my man trade with the 14 most man yeah yeah and i'm gonna say he's new to mad man and that's and being new to mad and i mean when i first started playing man it's not like you just start playing mad in the first month you know where all the competition is you know where all the tournaments are but uh your last chance will be fun and if you guys are watching any of the big streamers uh problem wazan myself clef um j wall's been streaming bg fam is on right now these guys k mac will probably play last chance uh if he doesn't make a good run in this uh i think we'll play it regardless but he's in the tournament or i'll talk about later but uh you watch these guys they're gonna be playing last chance it's gonna be the best versus the best it's not gonna be weekend league it's not gonna be but head to head it's gonna be fun man for real um the the coach packs listen to compete uh oh crowd funding and i believe that's what they call a crowd funding um for me um crowd funding is essentially uh the prize pool would be what we put into packs would be cool so my man packed with the seven himself i appreciate you but um crowd funding is like okay we're gonna take a 10 of what we get on packs and we're gonna put it to the tournaments which would be awesome we've been asking that since the beginning but you know it's something that you kind of give up on yes buster says my books coach does nothing to help me that's a really good point you know that's a good point and to me you know what i wish they had with these coaches was here not only do you buy a coach but you get a random 95 overall net card boom so now you're not only do you introduce people that give a shit about books all eight of us you know what i'm saying that had the books coach now there's 80 000 people that play might that are going to pay five bucks to learn who these four coaches are and also get a 95 overall you know what i'm saying jimmy raincoat is going to buy the pack just to get his 95 overall and he's gonna say who's this big head skinny black guy named bugs hey i might put him as my coach or here's an even better idea chat make the books coach give the team plus one stamina why not now you have john man but the visual coach will be books and he'll give the team plus five stamina that'd be a great idea give jimmy raincoat a reason to buy these coaches we're gonna buy the coaches because we support but if you want to grow if you want to make these guys become stars make people kind of have to buy the coaches you know what i mean don't make it an option kind of make it a necessity turn these guys into superstars that they deserve to be man and they and that's one thing that i they could do and and let's as i say all this let's remember this they have done a good job everything is everything is going forward as much as it's easy to say as much as it's easy to say um as much as easy to say they need to do this they need to do that and i feel like that's all we're doing need to do this need to do that need to do this need to do that i feel like that's all we do we do have to see man these guys are coaches in the game and that's pretty cool you know they've given out what five six million dollars in the last couple months man this or in the last couple years it's pretty cool right chat it's pretty cool we got to realize that they've been doing good things are going up one thousand percent so and it seems like we always whine and complain and just want what this one that um we do have to remember that they've been doing a pretty good job man and you gotta you gotta tip your cap sometimes but the coach situation the coach cards could be done a lot better um maybe even man i buy this coach card now i get a random alternate jersey a random alternate throwback jersey that i can wear i can put on an auction black let's really get this shit pop it you know let's have a lot of people with booze coaches and beast moment coaches and little man coaches and skimbo coaches and freaking who's probably the least bought coach chat let's think about all right who are the coaches this let's uh we gotta say rank the least bought coach who is the least bought coach give the coaches abilities what abilities would the coaches have if they had abilities master kratopen is the least bought coach okay okay who is the least bought coach prime time 50 gs is one of the coaches all right out of this group who is who who is the least bought coach in this group chat i mean it's kind of got to be crusher kratopen who get the least i mean bugs and mo prior to top coaches crushes least bought is the least bought coach who got the cornyest picture too much it might be bugs bugs might have a cornyest picture crush you know crush might have a cornyest that crush picture might be corny too they really picked bugs in this thing too crush there he is crush that's that's the neighbor from toy story crush is the least bought bugs has the worst pick i mean beats won't look a little creepy but who i wish i damn wish i had a all-time list of everybody that went on the game everybody that went on the game which they had the all-time list i really wish i had it so we could think about donnie bro you don't answer none of my questions donnie bro donnie don't help the podcast bro he i'll be asking that if y'all went i'm gonna go look at me and donnie dm bro he don't answer none of my questions i'll be asking well i'll be coming up with yo i had a good ass and we're gonna have this topic next week i'm not even going to tell you guys the topic i just have a good ass topic that i want to bring up next week and donnie ideally i'm going to be in california when the games start and i'm going to talk about it we're gonna talk about this in person because i have a good idea i have a good topic you know we can talk about it man but yeah the coaches could be add they could add something other than just wow let me buy this coach because that'll be real man like say all right i play i've been playing apex casually right if they gave me some skin to look like some pro apex dude that i don't know i don't give a shit about that why would i buy that really say like why if they give me the freaking you know i don't even know apex creep name what's the apex creep name i don't know but if they had some dumbass game where they gave me some pro player skin not i wouldn't buy it i wouldn't care i'm saying that's just how i feel man uh so i feel they need to add a little bit to the coach program but it's good definitely it's definitely two thumbs up for the coach program cannot complain about i don't even know how we got to the coach program and crush being the lowest bought coach now i wish now as you see straight from straight from was the second but most most bought coach now one day i'll tell you this man i hope i can see the stats for all the coaches bought it would be funny as hell that would be a great podcast topic uh listen tell them yeah exactly man just baby steps you know that's all we get in there it's definitely a sand thumbs up the coach program is cool lcq i'm excited to keep playing so i said you guys want to watch mad and make sure you guys check out this stream i said problem k mac uh bg henry my stream some cleft uh who else streams chat help me out help me out promote all the streamers that stream competitive madden bg cleft henry cap is cap is going to quit in a day pony check out pony play cap is going to quit a day maybe big cap i'm saying he's going to mind over age and he's going to rage cap has no neck he's just going to be down here raging cap if you ever wise kept he can't his neck don't turn like i swear i said this before but his neck doesn't turn like he turned his whole body to talk it's crazy like he get yelled at when his wife coming he got like turned his whole body swear to god jay himself um what i was saying james self d croft all the tnsc's probably civil i've been watching civil play so if you guys don't know listen this is what you gotta do youtube you gotta twitch me in go to the man directory click the button search it and search if anybody has lcq in the title watch them i'll put it that way all right chat you know what i'm saying oh my god i kept wanting to fight every cup you got a lot of hostility bro i'm so that's what happened when you don't have a neck man when you don't have a neck your heart is that much closer to your brain so it pumps the blood faster makes you that much angrier you know what i'm saying because us normal people like we have a neck right here so this takes up like a foot of like blood vessels so the blood slows down a little bit but when you don't have a neck like the heart pumps so fast that you're just out of control man honestly you know what i'm saying so that's just how it goes oh my god here go kepp you want kepp want to beat up everybody kepp want to beat up everybody with seaboo in his backyard and he never fought seaboo you know what i'm saying that's nuts seaboo walking around north carolina seaboo running north carolina also man if you guys you could check on seaboo he's going to play lcq probably check him out youtube.com slash seaboo 92 i'm saying check that i don't know where my man will at man show me a verdict i'm a man proof in the chat but anyway man lcq is going to be a blast chat does anybody know when it ends like that'd be nice i don't know if thrones won't play i mean i i would but throne killing it on just mutt like bro he don't need like and part of my ass you guys this man part of um i'm mad and part of me as like a streamer and stuff like i see gut fox and throne and xerxes and even cc and skomo just killing it at in mutt bro they just killing just investing in the mutt and me being a competitive guy i just have was born from the competitive side of men i feel like that's my niche but i also feel like man the other side is more successful you know as i'm looking at the other side is more successful my point to you guys is like do you guys i mean obviously i feel like the people watching the show want to watch the competitive stuff but i do feel like sometimes competitive holds back um the content you know what i'm saying chat and that's kind of how i feel about that but and it's a debate to me like i i think personally for me to have fun i have to play the best and try to be the best like for my personal satisfaction from mad like i could be honestly honestly for me i could if i say i went and did content bro and i i just blew up youtube 100 000 subscribers every video 50 000 views like i could do that make so much money right and have so much success if i wasn't competing i would it would it would eat me alive it would really eat me alive like i've been kind of i've been asked this year but i've still been out there i'm saying so for me it's like if i like didn't try or didn't try to compete it would eat me alive as a person honestly yeah so for me it's like i could never not compete especially like when you already have like compete if you went like it went straight from content to content and didn't really compete and didn't really know what that was like it would be a little easier but for me i just have to play i have to play people honestly um but that's lcq we're gonna have what we just said march 24th is when to end so that's two months we have two months to talk about lcq so let's all right now let me ask you this i would talk about lcq chat two months give me a number of games i should play on stream below right here wherever the little wherever it is what is the number of games i should be playing let me give me a number give me a number 500 is the first one i see 200 cat all right so that's a little low 1,200 150 this is in two months so let's talk let's say it's like 50 days 200 on everything over 9000 see that's why i only make subs that were allowed to talk in the chat honestly the one sub the one non-sub uses fucking redeemed sub only to say over 9000 literally that is why the podcast is in sub only mode 1 million percent that's why it is seriously now i could definitely play 10 ladder games a day really i'll shoot for 300 what about 300 yeah let's share then share like bro y'all 300 500 the 750 is reasonable but also i tell you guys this man one of the reasons i feel like i've kind of been asked is because i haven't played offline at all it's just all stream all stream i haven't played my friends at all i haven't practiced or anything so i definitely want to take some more time to do that but um okay that's a 45 the fact and chat i remember when it was 32 people what i think it's like 48 people now and then we can leave people make the tournament which is a lot but you know yeah a lot of people want to play games man i can play 10 games a day easily honestly i thought these games go fast i feel like people quit i feel like i'll quit shit like i feel like you can get through it you know but we'll see so can we agree on 300 300 games no you're good i'm i'm busting your balls i feel like 300 is a good number that we can get to that i can add on this podcast i come and tell you guys 300 man yes cap i watched a little bit of it but 300 games i'm putting 300 out there it's 300 doable i'm putting 300 out there 300 is the number dubby's playing man 300 games now i did tell you guys i'm gonna play 1500 games a month that's probably not fucking happening you know what i underestimated the amount of other shit you got to play as a man player like bro you got to play a lot of other modes shit i feel like i'm gonna play 5000 games a man i'm not putting a tweet out they're gonna kill me man all i'm gonna say is man what about that 1500 games and then y'all getting paid y'all getting burned yeah we can leave if we can leave count it i'd get 1500 promise you guys i realized cap one thing i realized is this is that um i used to feel bad about burning y'all on giveaways and shit like that i really did i used to feel bad about that but then i realized jrini does it all the time and he's disney and nobody calls him out for the shit jrini hasn't given y'all shit shit like literally jrini hasn't given y'all shit for three years for three years haven't given y'all shit and he don't call him out for it so fuck him all right you feel me like if they're not gonna call out jrini i mean listen it's just that it didn't nobody and then nobody can you call it out i'm saying if disney can do it anybody can do it i'm saying yeah motivational tweets jrini's full of shit the worst pair go to worst part bro i'll tell you when we go to these man events for three years bro like don't have like a stack don't have like a stack of codes like this they give jrini half the stack swear to god they walk around everybody gets one code right jrini's always at the end of the line of people getting codes they they they do why i tell you about big strap remember i put the strap down on the table like they give jrini this many codes how many do y'all get as the community i don't know what the hell he does he goes home and puts the code in and quick sells that lamar jackson and gets all his training for his team then he'll go on twitter and ask for a player nuts absolutely nuts yes we're all going to anaheim cat master squad will be in anaheim um the one thing uh i'm looking at i'm looking at some spots to stay for gang it's going to be pretty tough i know that man but 300 games that's what we're locking in as a podcast for y'all to watch a podcast you know 300 games is the game you know what i'm saying and we are gonna let's talk about this draft champions right now man because that's why i'm feeling right now jrini exposed 30 for 30 what if i told you disney didn't give away what he said he was yes they put clarence a share i'm never getting in the game i've that ship has sailed bro i've retired from that that battle rest in peace do no no no no okay what did i want to do what did i want to do okay here we go chat i need you guys help i need you guys to help me this is our predictions we are going to predict as a team we want to predict as a group of what's going on here what is going to happen how's it gonna happen so i need help all right all right boys all right so these are the groups all i can really do as far as predictions is like the groups because once it gets out of the group i really don't know what the bracket's gonna be i really don't know any of that so for me we can start over here in group a all we're gonna tell you guys is who makes it out of the group and who is the number one seed all right that's what we're gonna do and for doing this we are going to have for the person that gets knocked out we're gonna have the red ink for a person that's number one seed is wanting to get a green circle okay chat you guys with me are you guys with me are we still with me now all right now we're gonna talk about group a three people make it out one person goes home group a a lot of these groups i'll tell you you got to go with like the vibe of the group it's not really always about madden as we are playing the dc mode so a lot of things are random a lot of things are people got to make some things shake out of playbooks and and really do their best i know these guys are all prepared all great players on this list and i'll i will take you right now to the guys how i think this goes you know um uh little man is not getting knocked out in groups it's just not happening i little man and little man is the self-proclaimed king of the fighters no way he makes it out here he gets knocked out of groups uh joker joker's been uh shoot i think joker on any list has been a top five player this year bugs and it goes better on the top books is one of the best dc players ever to be honest he's always had a good showing i want to say books has made every dc live event ever i want to say so for me yeah i'm going crush with the line through his name wait i'm getting crushed out of here he's not made out of the group king of the fighters little man goes on number one seed for me gotta be the booger man gotta be the green bean you know i'm going bugs jokes want to make it out little man's want to make it out boom get to the next group group b do you guys disagree agree i got crush going on bugs number one seed man okay okay okay okay not madden 18 channel oh you're right you're right donny you know why that was only you know why he didn't make madden 18 channels donny because he played me in groups and got popped and also there was only eight people that made that live event you know okay okay okay let's go to group b this is a sneaky good group now i lost the rage in the tournament for that reason i am going to cross his name out no but in all series uh clef i i think i think clef is really good um like exceptionally good um henry has been good all year va dimes probably the sneakiest one of the sneakiest names on here now as a as an xbox player i have played va dimes a lot in the last couple years so i i'm familiar with the name and he was never live event good i mean he popped up he played really good knocked out drinny so uh he he's the underdog in this one i did play rage i thought he sucked i just sucked a little bit worse uh and he was able to pop up and make it to the live event uh but i think henry and clef are uh elite um dimes is really hot right now so yeah we gotta get rid of my man rage man it's being dimes 35 years old see i feel like he's that i feel like i'm that type of age because i'm saying i feel like i've been playing him a long time on leaderboards number one see you already know clef the god do you do we disagree or do we agree chat what do we like in this situation like i said like clef the number one see this one pretty much come down to clef versus henry man i feel like clef is gonna pop as we go on over here to the other group now this is the group man this group is unknown this group is this group is disgusting chat group c is disgusting like group c is like i've never seen noa play now i tell you when i posted the eyes from last podcast everybody told me noa was tough man and and and it was a people that i respect that said noa was tough uh you know what i'm saying so for me um i don't know so noa might be tough now chat if you guys don't know what let me know because i have obviously one of the biggest flaws about pretty much primarily playing xbox i don't really know these playstation dudes i don't know jd i don't know noa at all and uh and if you guys play playstation you probably don't know telegame at all honestly for me uh but deliverance man i can't ignore deliverance i can't i mean he's he's as we talk about little man being the king of the fighters deliverance might be the prince of the fighters bro he's always in the slobber knocker so for me i honestly the amount the amount of respect that noa got after the eyes were posted i seen a lot of people i thought were good at madden told me noa was good so i'm he's not gonna get crossed out deliverance king prince of the fighters never crossed out telegang i'm saying he he's not gonna get crossed out so i got crossed out my man jd just but this is the process of elimination okay so now we move on who's gonna be the number one seed is it gonna be noa teleganger deliverance i could just circle my man teleganger him be the number one seed is that what we're gonna do but my man pk beats you right pk does i'm sure his name is pk my man pk beat telegang already does telegang get that does he get that revenge against deliverance or does deliverance beat him again are we going pk i think i'm going pk bro but do we go with noa because i mean you guys i mean did everybody jump the everybody jumped at me when i said noa was was the same odds as deliverance or whatever i'm going with the pk matter of fact come on bro this is photoshop this is photoshop dubby anything is possible you can do whatever you put your mind to this is why they watch chat it's why they watch man seriously boom boom boom boom and you know we gotta do this right chat this is why they watch make sure his name is properly put out there i'm saying you can't be disrespecting my man close enough right chat close enough boom got pk there it is group d noa could be this year's criton but oh donnie does that mean pop about it nowhere okay i mean yo he might be hell is pk now we go group d i already know who i'm knocking out first i already know i'm knocking out first oh we're not even my opacity is not high oh that's a sign and we messed up what's i mean let me tell you why man let me tell you why chat now i was in a twitch chat last night or might have been i don't know where it might have been my twitch chat right it might have been my twitch chat and somebody asked westley he was in the pocket he was in the chat and asked and let me come on right they asked westley check i'm not man so they asked westley chat hut you ready for dc and you know his response was i don't know i don't have any control over it it's all about my playbook and if i get a good playbook you know i'll be able to do good and his first his first responses and they don't have any control over it and they don't have any control when you go in with that mindset that you have no control over it and it's all up to the game all you're doing is giving yourself a reason to make an excuse you are backing up your excuse before it even happens he's cooked because one as we go back to the graphic for one as we go back to the graphic chat he's not being kiff whoa he's not being kiff let me tell you something when westley plays kiff this is this is what's going to happen right kiff is westley's coach like westley does everything kiff tells him to do and that's pretty much how westley became good at mad like he was like he played and was decent but once kiff took my wing and made westley good right so westley has done everything kiff has said for two years right and so we tease westley about this we tease him about it like all you need kiff blah blah chat you guys agree that's what we do we tease westley so what's gonna happen is westley they're gonna sit next to each other they're gonna sit up and load a game of mad and they're gonna load in we'll be sitting right next to each other right it's like if the ninja turtles had to fight splinter right so he's looking over there a splinter and he's like damn it's my master this is the guy that twitch chats today the twitch chat tells me this guy teaches me how to play this is my chance to show everybody that he's not my master he's not sensei i'm better than him now he's gonna have so much pressure on him but in the back of his mind he's gonna know that is master splinter over there that is sensei over there so he's gonna lay down he's gonna be so afraid of game meanwhile kiff kiff knows that he tells westley everything what to do so kiff is gonna be one step ahead of westley this might be a blowout honestly it might be a blowout so then we look at the other two people after now i will tell you this depending on when a lot of things with groups i feel like a lot of the order of the game matters you know if i'm westley and kiff opposite of friends they're not gonna want to play to the end hopefully they maybe fix it but they got rid of all that but i would assume they would play first if you're that close i feel like you have to play first in groups they did fix i don't think i think it's impossible for like to fix the last game i think it's impossible now with the way the layout the format is but um if they play first if i'm westley i would want to play kiff last i would want to play ghost or k mac because i feel like you'd have more confidence against ghosts and k mac than uh westley but um then uh ghost i think is really good um and then kiff is kiff uh but i and k mac k mac looks really strong too the thing about k k mac got that split close that split close got k mac um to where he is so for me um well i'll say it's gonna be tough for me to get that split close again i wonder what he's gonna make shake if he has another playbook but for me it's easy to go it's easy to go to kiver me i'm going to ghost man but the number one seat that's where i'm going yes ghost versus k will be the matchup that's probably this is probably going to decide it the kid versus ghosts much like cleft versus henry's want to decide that one and i just feel like pk versus taylor gang that's that's gonna decide that one even joke versus bugs i feel like we got a clear you know two people in every every what you're gonna call it the challenge is it starts thursday gator so that's why like like i said uh this group c is slobber knocker city um i wouldn't pick taylor gang uh i think he's better than easy but i i think he's better than deliverers but he lost to him and delivers i mean let's say he just keep winning games so he can't knock it so um and i don't want to pick all my guys damn i gotta leave somebody out it's gotta be taylor gang right by the way that's how i think i hope you guys uh pick i hope you guys want to watch it three p.m. eastern uh that would be noon dining do this start with group a is group a start so i gotta get i gotta catch the early ass flight on thursday godly oh well definitely try to be out there man it's just too many people that i like too many of my friends are playing man not only bugs cleft and and and trey but i mean kid and ghost uh shoot westley uh joke and lil man he's like my friends i want to watch him play uh that'd be cool watch somebody win a belt uh we got who we got they can win two belts um as a just kid it's either oh kid or ghost kid or ghost can win their second belt huh that's the only people with belts that can win their second otherwise somebody knows what about it's pretty cool little man versus buzz game one and another five a m flight man you guys know how it gets down you guys know the vibes you guys know how it works giving ghosts they can win their second belt man but i'll be ready i can't wait to watch man i said you guys don't know you can follow man league ops for updates follow me for updates things like that yeah with group play that's going to be six games i guess how many games are in a group it would be six right everybody one two three one two three one yeah i guess i don't know what's my thought on lurktags what is lurktags i don't know i don't do it people gotta do what they gotta do you know who knows when you talk non-stop it's hard to breathe you get like tired ambi bold little man versus joke oh man like and as it kind of goes when we talk about kid and westley how west of never be kid the same goes for little man a joke or trading books trade will never beat bugs in a big game ever will never happen like when someone like really guides you that much in madden that you'll never beat them seriously it just it just won't happen so little man won't little man won't be joke ever you know what was that i think that i used to think ghosts would never be joke i feel like nobody ambi could be joke that's how i've always felt but anyway man this was the needed podcast episode 65 we are ready for the madden challenge on thursday man i hope you guys watch it um dc was really fun to play man it's i think it's going to be i think it's going to make for a good tournament you guys agree all right do you guys agree that um dc is watchable i feel like everybody has a vast scheme everybody every players are pretty even uh i'm saying i feel like every every um like you have all they have a quarterback there won't be a guy with just running back you know there's a quarterback uh wide receivers every team is pretty even i feel like the drafts are pretty even things won't be pretty standard football the best players won't win man i really think it's i really think it's a good mode and i think it's gonna work out uh i think it's gonna be fun to watch uh my prediction i think bugs i think bugs is playing really good i thought last year that was his tournament to win he he's been one of the best dc players ever really and uh i think you know this is the time for him to go ahead and get some wins hopefully he starts out playing well he gets a good book uh and i think just the way you start playing the vibes that you have uh are important that so hopefully that first he plays first bugs is up early every day so playing early is an advantage to him hopefully that me and b guys are sleeping and you can just get the momentum and keep playing man i mean definitely room for cleft bugs and my man terror gang uh heavy so i'll definitely be out there so if any of you guys i don't know if they're having a live final hopefully they are you guys can come by and check it out if anybody's in san francisco man it'll be a lot of fun hopefully we'll have a lot more stories uh to talk about um about the uh what you call it about the san francisco turn up but we will have that but this was the neither podcast episode 65 65 man we're posing it on 70 episodes that's insane