 it unfortunately. So yeah just have to make sure that we record every session. I mean if the faculty forget please do remind you know in your classes because sometimes we just kind of tend to forget. Okay so the record is on that's great. Let's pray and we'll get started. I just like to request someone whoever can to please lead us in prayer and then we'll study the next chapter. Okay anybody Subajit are you comfortable to pray? Yes yes please go ahead yeah thank you. Father God we come before you in this morning Father God thank you for this beautiful day and thank you Father that you've allowed us to join in this class Father God we pray Father as we learn about building your kingdom and we learn about the various principles Lord I pray Lord give us more insights Lord and Lord help us to to apply all these things in our life in our churches Father God so that we can we can be used in the advancement of a kingdom Father God. Father God bless pastor bless us Father God so we can receive what what we learn through her Father God speak to your spirit Father God and Father God we pray Lord help us Father God to move with all these things I believe you will be with us through and to the end thank you Father in Jesus my name we pray amen amen thank you thank you Subajit for leading us so last session we were talking about the citywide church and how we must strive towards unity how we must help one another you know how we must we must impact the society we looked at the spiritual things that need to progress in a in a in a city we looked at social transformation which is essential we looked at you know physical transformation that kingdom builders must engage in and also the marketplace transformation so it's only when we make an impact at a citywide level that the the light of the kingdom of God is impacting people's lives so since we're talking about kingdom builders we need to have that kingdom mindset because one church one local church one ministry cannot do it all and then we also said that you know as far as we we know that people are born again they are sincerely in agreement to the the core beliefs of scripture we can join hands with them and we we must not try to major on the miners and you know see where there can be differences of opinion instead you know we we agree to walk together with them and it's in togetherness that we will see a great work accomplished for God's kingdom in any any city any region and this is we've talked in terms of this city we've talked in terms of the city but of course you know it's applicable for a region so we can get together with pastors from a certain region ministers of God or a nation even so we join hands together and we saw how everyone has something to contribute in one person cannot will not be gifted and have the grace to you know how do you say whatever the kingdom needs for advancement you know one person cannot really provide those inputs so everyone together accomplishes much more so that is what we were dwelling on in the last class and today we move on to something really important we initially when we started discussing about kingdom building we said that the kingdom is about the kingdom the kingdom is about God because he is the king of the kingdom and then we also stressed a lot about the character of the kingdom builder the character the attitude the approach of a kingdom builder so today's subject the the title here chapter nine it says brothers brothers and fathers and obviously even though it says brothers and fathers it is meant for women as well so sisters and mothers you could take it that way so how can a kingdom builder be a brother be a father so it is our attitude in our relationships with others okay and this is really really important because you know one can claim to serve God and to honor his kingdom honor the call on one's life but if we have hatred in our hearts towards scriptures say our brother who's a brother usually in the early church the term brethren was used for anyone who had committed their life to Christ anyone who was born again so a brother the simple meaning of that is anyone who is in the body of Christ so if one hates a brother and still claims to love God you know that doesn't equate let's look at the scripture from one John chapter two in fact if you study the epistles of Apostle John you would find that he repeats this theme over and over and over again he talks about the importance of love for God the importance of experiencing and understanding the kind of love that God has for each and every one of us and at the same time releasing that love to our brothers and sisters if we don't do that then you know we we're missing a link something something within us something in our relationship with God is not right so one John chapter two versus nine through eleven this is in our notes I'm on page number 98 I would like to request one of us to please read it one John two versus nine through eleven please anyone one John two nine and our verses nine to eleven he who says he is the light and hates his brother is in darkness until now he who loves his brother abides in the light and there is no cause for stumbling in him but he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in darkness and does not know where he is going because darkness has blinded his eyes okay thank you Christopher and I think that passage is quite self-explanatory very clear for us to understand it simply says that anyone who claims to walk with God or claim to be in the light and yet hates his brother is in darkness so by the faith that we have we are proclaiming that we are children of God that we are followers of Christ but with our life you know we are contradicting that so walking with God also means loving having regard for our brothers and sisters in Christ if we if we don't have that this passage actually says that one walks in the darkness now it is true that in our journey with God you know there might be some seasons of aloneness for various reasons maybe we are just you know we we are just being equipped prepared by God so we don't know other believers we don't know other ministers of God and thereby there isn't much fellowship so that happens okay now intentionally if we try to keep ourselves away from others so that we don't have to interact with them we don't have to build our relationship with them now that is not something that you know the the bible prescribes so if the season of aloneness happens in our journey yeah that is normal it happens to all of us but the normal thing to do is also to connect with others as much as possible I mean again it really depends on each person's personality and you know temperament so but script just tell us as long as far as it is possible we need to live at peace with everyone so we do develop you know relationships now we must make sure that you know we learn to be brothers or learn to be available to people and also to be fathers now speaking more specifically about being a kingdom builder you know a brother is one who you know like a brother is one who has a relationship with with another brother in the body of Christ and who knows that person so that is why the term brother and relates you know with with love relates with that sense of tenderness with another believer and that is why we're using the term brother and a father is someone who really cares who wants to nurture who is intentional about seeing the spiritual growth of another child of God that God has connected to to him or her so that's the definition or that's the understanding of brother and father now for ministers of God you know what really happens is that we become very very busy with ministry work okay and I'm sure everyone can just totally agree with that that you know ministry can get really it can become very demanding and then you know you're spending all your time serving you're spending all your time getting the tasks done you know you're spending all your time you know serving in different ways not that it's bad but we may not intentionally make time to develop relationships or you know be a father to others in the body of Christ now we'll talk more about it now I just wanted to introduce this that you know we as ministers we do struggle and when we say that you know we struggle to have relationships it could also be it could simply be because we are so busy and you know if there are two ministers of God each one is doing their you know part of the kingdom work and maybe they're traveling they just don't have the time when one person's the city the other person's not there so it gets challenging to really meet and to build a relationship to strengthen a relationship and thereby having this fellowship in the kingdom of God where we have brothers we are fathers or mothers to others you know that that can be neglected okay that is the the challenge in the kingdom of God so as ministers of God you know this this thing about building relationships and we are talking more specifically about building relationships with other ministers okay in the kingdom of God so we if unless we are intentional about this unless we're intentional about being fathers to new ministers who are rising up it'll not happen it'll not happen and the extreme is what we read in the passage here what John says he says that if we hate okay not being able to make time for others is one thing now if in our hearts we dislike or you know we carry unforgiveness we carry bitterness we we haven't settled you know matters with with other ministers in the in the body of Christ maybe in our own city then it becomes very uncomfortable to connect with them and then you know the gap keeps increasing right and that is not at all a good thing that's not a good thing to have a negative attitude to have something against a brother or a sister in the kingdom of God in our hearts so we need to work on maintaining good relationships as far as possible okay with others and other ministers of God now we'll yeah okay what does it mean to be a brother now we can also use terms like fellow laborer okay fellow laborer so when Paul he writes to Timothy you know we we understand that you know there was a nice bond that he shared with Timothy so he in 1st Thessalonians 3 and verse 2 he says um Paul Paul says and sent Timothy our brother our brother minister and a minister of God so he's calling a person who is in the ministry you know during his times as a brother okay what else does he call Timothy as and he says our fellow laborer in the gospel of Christ so you know we see that attitude the attitude is uh just the way he wrote to the Corinthians he said Apollos planted uh or I planted Apollos water you know you you are God's field okay so basically he sees the people as the field and he sees everyone who's working in that field as a fellow worker or a core laborer or he you can also see when he says Timothy a minister of God later we will talk a little bit more about Paul's relationship with Timothy because this is a special relationship when he found Timothy Timothy was you know nowhere close to the minister of God that you know we are talking about right now but he had an investment in Timothy's life and at one point you know Paul is recognizing him as a minister of God now for us in the kingdom of God you know these things sound very uh correct you know theoretically correct and biblically correct but to walk in these things is what is very important you know we can just look at another minister of God and completely disregard their ministry and think oh what ministry is that person doing you know I am the one who's doing really good ministry but look at how Paul sees Timothy he says brother he he calls him fellow worker he also calls him uh you know a minister of God so that's that's a big thing um and of course you know Paul is the Paul is the person who actually fathered Timothy in the ministry now uh looking at our relationships today in the kingdom of God now you know there is really a need to um have brothers recognize other brothers as fellow ministers you know um fellow workers in the kingdom of God uh does this happen it does happen okay however no as I began by saying that you know ministry can become very busy uh we we may not have enough time to share our lives with other ministers of God so what ends up happening at least most of the time is a very superficial connect where we we just cross paths at a conference or you know you just cross um you bump into each other in a in a pastor's meeting or you you know just just things like that and there is a certain level of connect there's a there's um a little bit of knowing one another and uh you know if uh we make the effort then the relationship can deepen a little bit but otherwise it remains very much at the superficial level and worse still you know in ministry relationships can also just remain at a transactional level meaning uh okay you know I am I'm doing this uh in in one particular event uh brother you know your ministry y'all are good at doing something else how about we work together so it's very transactional like you do this I'll do that we'll do ministry together and that is what is our that is what our relationship looks like now the kind of uh relationship that Paul is talking about you know when he calls Timothy brother fellow worker and uh uh minister of God is a deeper relationship okay I want to use the term genuine genuine relationship and and you know genuine relationship uh the the kinds that we have uh in families where you know it's it's just so natural it's natural it's not that okay you give me this I'll give you that and you know if we don't perform then hey you know I don't know you it doesn't work like that you know we in in the families siblings spouses we we kind of know one another really well and uh we we work with we understand people's weaknesses but still we're there for them they're there for us so it it's a genuine relationship it's a genuine and a strong relationship so when we're talking about uh having relationships in the kingdom of God it's about strengthening and deepening and having a real and a genuine relationship with other ministers of God okay so that's what we are talking about not just a superficial uh level of connect okay um so we'll just keep moving on you know section by section whatever is given here in our notes uh so the next section here you know it talks about how um sometimes we as leaders struggle alone okay um it's it's like it's uh you know it's not that God wants us to suffer alone but uh when we don't build these strong relationships in the kingdom of God um it feels like that it feels like hey you know I have nobody to stand with me and uh it could happen uh you know more so to um I'm just giving a scenario here maybe a pastor and a senior pastor who is very busy with the ministry and for whatever reason he or she you know they have not built these relationships over time and when ministry gets you know really busy um then uh you you kind of feel isolated sometimes and we know about the journey of of ministry it's not always easy there are tough seasons okay and sometimes it's not sufficient to have just your family members to share with because they may not understand all the uh if they are in the ministry great but even then they may not completely understand what one is going through but when we have you know strong and deep relationships uh at that time it really really uh strengthens you know one spirit if we have a brother in the ministry or a sister in the ministry or a father in the ministry a mother in the ministry who uh we we can sort of bear our hearts and we can you know um uh be open we can be vulnerable and you know they are there to speak into our into our hearts and they are not afraid of you know bringing correction and telling us things in a in a in a clear way in a plain way without hiding the truth to have those kind of relationships you know it's very important and particularly in the time of adversity because one needs uh uh scriptures say that you know we do need we do need uh you know brothers and uh people who will stick together with us so the the whole point that you know we're trying to make today is that one must develop these relationships in the kingdom of god and be very intentional about it uh now you know I if each of us think there are there are um uh examples of pastors and leaders that we can think of uh who have probably not had uh uh this you know this kind of relationship where they were not able to open up and they ended up in um you know trouble they just went on with whatever they were they were struggling with and there was nobody to really speak into their lives and you know things got worse so uh one does not want to be in that uh extreme position so uh we must really invest in building such relationships the next section here I mean I just thought that it was so beautiful that I probably don't have the language to explain it as well as it is written so I'm just going to read it out and I'm sure it'll minister to our hearts so this section is um on page 99 and I will read it uh a personal challenge okay so this what pastor's written is written to be a brother to another minister of god I need to spend time with him to really get to know him I need to spend time with him and his family and watch how he treats his wife and children I need to spend time at his church or ministry office with his staff and see how he works with his staff I need to invite him to my home and my church or office we must spend time where we worship pray and see God together I need to lay hands on him and pray for him I need to have him lay hands on me and pray for me I need to stand by him in times of difficulty and journey with him through it I need to celebrate his success and moments of victory with him I need to be able to uh I need to be available for him when he needs counsel or advice similarly I need to be able to reach out to him for his counsel I need to receive from his gift anointing and ministry similarly he must receive through the gift anointing and ministry that God has placed in me I must honor him for who he is in God and similarly he honors me for who I am in God we must partner with each other as friends I must sacrifice and give for his personal welfare and his family when people hate him criticize him I must stand in defense and still be his friend we need to be such friends such brothers in the kingdom so no again it's really beautiful and it drives the point home to build these strong relationships where on both sides it's it's giving and receiving at both ends and these will make for you know a strong kingdom strong kingdom of God okay now we've understood what kind of genuine relationships one must build with other ministers of God now let's talk a little bit about brothers who may stumble now one of the wonderful things about being in a genuine relationship with other brothers and sisters in Christ is if we are in error or let's say that person is in error there is an opportunity for correction there's a scripture from Galatians 6 and verse 1 end of page 99 would somebody please be able to read this passage this service Galatians 6 one please yeah yes please thank you Galatians 6 one rather than if a man is overtaken in any trespass you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness considering yourself lest you also be tempted yeah thank you Sam yeah so uh you know we we see here that there is an opportunity to correct somebody or it's not just about correction it's it's more about restoration you know restoring the individual back uh into the call and the destiny that God has for that person we when we relate as brothers you know it's a lot easier to do and we've already spoken about how challenging it is to speak the truth in love particularly when someone is is uh you know not on the right track when we have a relationship you know with another minister of God as a minister of God we can help bring them back we can speak life we can provide counsel we can provide direction and the support that one would need you know in during that span of time obviously you know when when one stumbles now it might take a duration of time for that individual to to repent to you know change and to align themselves to what God is calling them to do and as brothers we can stand with them through that process uh and wouldn't it be so wonderful uh if ministers of God stood by you know other ministers of God and especially when when we notice that someone has fallen or you know somebody is falling uh if there are brothers quickly step in or basically relationships strong relationships others can step in you know and and uh they can they can be there to see that restoration but again on the other hand uh if we don't have those genuine relationships where we really care and love one another when we see a brother stumble you know it's easy to to join with the the people who criticized with the accusers uh you know the people who publicized the news and make things worse for that minister of God and how many ministers of God you know would have actually suffered like this because they they felt alone maybe one of the reasons why they never opened up uh is because they couldn't trust you know other others in the kingdom and they felt that hey like if I share what I'm going through now uh you know I I'll I'll be uh you know shut down and so will uh my my ministry and my family will have to pay the price and you know there'll be other repercussions so it's unfortunate if if that uh is the situation that one faces when when you know maybe they have stumbled in some way so uh when we have genuine relationships restoration is possible okay uh and uh people can step in people can actually be there for that uh fallen minister of God and with as scripture says you know with meekness and with gentleness they can bring correction and uh see that brother try it once again okay uh so the next section here is again about genuinely loving uh a brother in Christ we've already read that passage from one john chapter two um and uh this is a repetition you know where where we are being encouraged once again to not carry um you know ill feeling about a brother or a sister in ministry in our hearts uh again you know it is really possible as we are serving together you know that we rub one another the wrong way and uh with the thought of that particular person you know we all those wrong all those emotions come up of anger of of you know frustration just you know uh the memories are so unpleasant that you don't want to relate with that person uh but you know we've already said that as far as possible we must overcome these feelings um and uh see if we can make peace with every single minister of God now we may choose to work uh more closely with some ministers as compared to the others that's okay that's understandable you know we need not um go out of our way to make you know a working relationship happen with every person in the kingdom of God that's not what is being asked here but you know to just have that peaceful and a good and a cordial relationship with every uh minister in the kingdom now that is that is possible okay that is definitely possible uh and one must work towards it uh if at all you know through the journey of um our ministry or relating with other uh ministers of God if there has been you know some form of hurt then we must look at ways to resolve it uh or you know because of our personal insecurities if you know we are going through issues uh where um we are envious of others you know we are envious and jealous of uh the ministry accomplishments of you know some other maybe you know I have a church but you know there is another brother uh in our city who has a bigger church who has a better format of doing church or you know maybe I I'm a minister I preach the word there's somebody who's much better a preacher than me really I teach the word but there's somebody more you know they they're very thorough they're very eloquent with their uh teaching now if I am personally insecure then again you know to be able to relate with others it's I would rather you know be by myself and uh feel good you know by myself than connect with other ministers of God these are all the issues and we've touched on this when we talked about a minister's character excuse me so uh to relate you know genuinely and maintain that love for uh other brothers and sisters we must really uh check these things okay and put the past behind us sorry yeah put the past behind us you know we've um talked about that uh have the the wounds if at all you know some wounds by cause uh just ask the Lord to work just ask the spirit of God to minister uh to us our soul our spirit and come free of those things so that we can serve from a place of security and love and relate with others okay and the last section here talks about uh arising of fathers and mothers in the kingdom of God now just as much as we have talked about being a brother to a uh minister of God um being a father and a mother is also an intentional thing okay uh ministry can keep us very busy and uh one can be so occupied that after years of ministry one realizes that there are no successes you know there was no investment made in the life of a younger uh a person right a younger minister of God so uh this is not just you know detrimental to a local church now suppose you know I have not invested uh in the lives of we've talked about this when we talked about you know mentoring fathers and mothers find somebody who is way younger than us maybe even 20 years younger than us 25 years younger than us and then if we sense that special connection that God uh has for us to mentor that person we must see how we can start investing in that individual and work with them no journey with and by the time now we are ready to retire you have all these okay yeah uh by the time we're ready to retire we have all these uh younger folks who have been equipped who are um you know tempered in a in a way ready to launch out no just uh around when you are um in a sense ready to settle down okay so that'll be a beautiful thing and when we uh saw that example of Joshua we saw that Joshua and his uh peers they they did so well they they um fought enemies they conquered uh pieces of uh you know their territories but when they were about to settle down and stop doing what they were called to do the younger generation we we uh read that passage in fact it's in your notes uh in the book of Joshua we saw that the the younger generation did not know the Lord okay so they had no clue what Joshua and the other elders had done for the kingdom and what the relationship um which they had with God looked like and that is the most unfortunate thing that you know we live this era of if you want to call it you know revival awakening outpouring of the Holy Spirit and all of that you know it's it's thrilling it's exciting but when when we are all done okay and uh we we are ready to uh maybe move on to roles where you know God may be calling us in an apostolic way to to minister to um you know government leaders and things like that we don't have any successes who can continue to impact you know the local church the kingdom of God in various ways because the the fathers and mothers as Paul says you have many instructors but you don't have any fathers so nobody really invested in the lives of the younger ones and the kingdom of God and and you know that is something we must be aware of and see how we can overcome this deficit and make sure that we are strengthening younger ministers in the kingdom of God so this is a little bit about being a brother being a father and a mother in God's kingdom so along these lines you know if there are uh points that you would like to discuss we we can do that maybe i'll just ask a question and that can help us think along these lines how can how can one be a genuine brother or a sister to fellow ministers in the kingdom of God how how how can i be you know that genuine brother or a genuine sister or how can you be a genuine brother or a genuine sister so you know any thoughts on that how to be a genuine brother or sister uh yes yes okay canady yes canady yeah please go ahead by being humble and teachable you do something wrong okay wonderful okay so canady saying um attitude of humility uh being teachable that helps us be a good brother yeah that's true thank you anita uh is adding to that she says for god so love the world okay anita can you expand on that so is it by by loving them you while we wait for anita to yeah yes anita go ahead like whenever we meet any brother or sister if that word comes in our mind like god so loved him that he gave his one and one like she when he's that with that love we can't love them yeah with our yeah because uh when we have to love we see so many characters things which we cannot love with but because of god we can thank you thank you anita that's that's beautiful so we can love with god's love which he has given us and abhishek adds faithfulness so we can be faithful in our relationship with other brothers and sisters so uh would anyone like to share how you have been a brother or you have some people you know who have stood with you through your ministry journey or your christian walk and how that has strengthened you these relationships okay rose uh rose is answering our first question about being a genuine brother treating everyone as family okay little family and looking through the eyes of jesus and how he sees the brothers and sisters okay instead of our own our own faulty spectacles okay thank you thank you rose that's wonderful so true yeah so prabhakar treat others as you want to be treated yeah so so true yes yes uh yes child's coming to you i'll just read the comments here first uh sam samir says uh so many ways to assume that the other person knows something that i don't and that i can always learn from him or her yes that's that's right uh to have a heart of compassion knowing that even he or she is serving the lord that i'm serving okay great great yeah so if we can uh uh incorporate all these things have it develop it then you know i'm sure we'll we'll make good brothers and sisters for others uh yes child's please go ahead can you hear me yes i can hear you okay thank you um the the person that has helped me work is the the wife of the pastor when i joined the church after my getting saved and then she is the one who did the discipleship part she taught me the the 16 lessons for discipleship and then there was a program that the church was running of here see and and learn so she even would take me with them to go for open air evangelism door to door evangelism she she continued and made sure that i am in the children's ministry she's the one who recommended me to to go for studies for children's ministry and right now she is um sending me daily messages on how to to raise up our Christian children so she's been there for me thank you yes thank you thank you Charles thank you for sharing um so this is someone you know who has helped Charles in his spiritual walk and his ministry journey so Charles this would be more like a spiritual mother right uh uh how about a brother or a sister where where we pour into their lives but you know they also um pour into our lives so it's it's both ways it's both ways i walk with them so anyone uh you have any example about a brother or a sister yes i have a brother is is also part of the home sale that i attend yes it's like we are having what we call accountability is my accountability partner uh make sure that i am i am having prayers make sure that i have attended the church but also i check on him we missed one another we we share the the same uh devotional materials uh our children meet so he is called Perez is is my friend yeah thank you thank you um Charles so it's nice and i like what you said at the end you know you said he is my friend so uh having fellow ministers as friends is uh so key and uh you know as we said earlier it's it's always very helpful when you have people of the same gender uh who um who do life with you who know you really well and even in the ministry you know when you have um people that of the same gender usually uh to whom you can open up and it's always safer that way um so just like from my life i think finding fellow ministers finding fellow ministers uh as as a lady in the ministry it's not always easy because the proportion of men somehow it seems to be at least i like you know perceptibly it seems more um but you know there are there are women there are so many women from church that you know i i know of for several years and they've seen my journey i've seen their journey um and uh it's it's so helpful like just to be able to open up and share uh and you know when when we are going through like when you're when you're in the ministry right sometimes what happens is uh the expectation is to to really appear strong like because you have to be there you have to be preaching you have to be sharing you have to be teaching you have to know the answers right so some for for some of us as ministers uh we kind of try to hide behind that facade and we never really um get an opportunity to reveal that that side of us where you know we we do need help or we do need counsel we do need a listening here but when you have you know brothers and sisters so i have you know a couple of women who know me pretty well and you know there are there are times when they know my journey as well right from the early days of ministry so i can kind i can share with them even after i've preached a message and i felt like you know it was it was just not uh up to the mark you know i i made all these mistakes i never want to preach again you know i i can just sit with them i can share that or i can i can tell them hey these are my personal challenges you know i am concerned about uh these aspects of my personal life could you please pray with me could you please you know pray through till uh i see uh these results so i'm going up for this uh conference or i'm going to be ministering here and i don't feel up to it you know could you just uphold me in prayer and you know the reason why i'm not feeling up to it is you know x y and z i really open up really open up or you know i could i could just share with them and say look i'm really having a problem with anger or i'm really having a problem with jealousy so i don't really have to hide anything with those people because i'm just giving you some some example you can just have all these open conversations where you know they some of them they are ministers themselves you know one particular lady she's a preacher and a really wonderful preacher i've always like from my younger days i've always admired the way she talks when she speaks it's it's like she's been with jesus you know it's like that so when i share she's able to share and say hey look and see this is the issue or that is the issue why can't you think of some practical ways of you know taking on lesser work and make more time for rest so just simple things that that we are not able to share with others maybe i won't be able to share all this with somebody in my congregation because i have a different relationship with them or even my family member right they may not understand ministry challenges but when i'm able to open up with a fellow minister of god they can speak into my life and i don't have to be afraid and i even this thing about stumbling right when there is a multitude of counselors there is safety that's what scripture says and we don't have to go finding too many counselors even if you have one or two such people that we can open up with it really really is a blessing and you know vice versa there are times when i have spoken into their lives and i've told them hey look this is not right or you know why is why is this happening maybe you know maybe you're not you're not taking in the right content you're looking i mean why why are you having these negative thoughts maybe you're spending too much time on your phone maybe you're spending too much time you know watching a certain here listening to a certain material so very openly we're able to just speak into each other's lives strengthen one another be real that's the whole point to be real and not to be that you know i'm that preacher person or i'm that ministry person i'm that kingdom person yes we are all that we are all that but we do need others who can journey along with us and it's like we understand the humanness right we understand the the challenges we understand the the moments where one needs that lift okay so just somebody to to be there to listen and not judge okay these are all priceless things and if we can have it in our journey if we can develop it we can also try to be that brother or sister to someone and we find such brothers and sisters it'll really strengthen the work of god and the kingdom of god okay all right so we will take a break now and also just quickly read roses point here she says also pastor what we do to the brethren we do to jesus himself yeah yeah that's that's good rose so let's take a break now we'll come back and we'll talk a little more about being fathers being fathers and mothers so we've focused in on being brothers and sisters so far if you have any questions you know we can start there in the next session but we will look keenly at being fathers and mothers okay so it's 10 52 let's come back at 11 or 2 and start again yeah thank you