 Welcome to the footy show daily live here on Peyton joined by Steve Kelly in the studio, back in the studio for the first time in about five months. Good to see you mate, keeping the social distancing and all of that. It's that time of the year when people are already talking about where teams will finish next season. The race for the top four once again already, people choosing where teams will finish and the lads have been talking about it this week. City, Liverpool, Man United and a surprise package Arsenal. It's just come out of the blue, nobody's expecting it. There you go, there you go. You want to see more on that video and all of their picks for where they think teams will finish in the top four. Make sure you click the link in the description below. Robbie was quite supportive of his own club there at Arsenal. I mean, I always think trying to do this before players have been signed is bizarre anyway. This will change because obviously what we say today will be very different on October the 5th when business is shut and then what we say on October the 5th might look very differently. Definitely mate, definitely. But if you had to pick four teams that would finish in the top four next season now without any knowledge of anything else, who would be your four picks? Probably going to say I'm really boring but I'd probably be the four that are there now. At the moment from what I've seen last season, obviously the start of the whole season again, I don't really see any other team really challenging the four. I think Leicester proved over the last couple of weeks that maybe they're not as good as everybody thought. You've got to obviously Arsenal. Probably if there was an outsider and this is probably just based on the manager, probably more than anything, would be Tottenham. I think he had a really good end to the season Marino, made them hard to beat apart from obviously the other embarrassing game in Sheffield. He's either way or awful but he's a result manager and I think he's the only one outside the four who would have a chance of getting in the Champions League and they've got a top striker as well, the Chelps. So you'd basically be Liverpool City, United and Chelsea then you think? Hopefully the top two move around. I would tend to agree with you, I think they look obviously again doing this before anyone's made any real moves but what you would say is Chelsea have got team over there and they've got Hachim Dziart coming in. Both very, very good footballers. There's big links to Cahaveth, there's big links to Yanoblach. If they were to get those two you could then say Chelsea still feel as though they'd be a centre back. Shire winning it but it would get them a lot closer because they're all good players. And Manchester United look like they're in the groove with Sol Shire. You know they've got J, potentially got J and Sancho coming in, it looks like that could happen at the minute. Of course there's still a couple of question marks over United's defence and who knows if they'll hit the ground run on the way they finished it but just right now you would have to say they'd probably be in there. And obviously the top two will be in there because they're the best two teams, Liverpool are the best team. City chasing them now so they'd be in there. So it is difficult to look at other teams other than those four and say yeah, these are breaking through it. I don't see, despite me getting on with Robbie and I really like Robbie, I don't see Arsenal being close to the top four. I think Wolves are a good side but I don't see them breaking and I think this was the best opportunity this year and I missed it. I think Leicester seemed the second in boxing day and finished outside the top four. I don't see them breaking and I go, Spares you're right, well I don't think Spares are great. I think you've got Harry Kane in the front who's a great goal scorer and you've got Marino's tactical mouse. They may be the ones who could potentially go close for getting in there. This is obviously the bringing in Huyberg who will help them. There's no question about that in midfield. Marino could be one of the managers who can tinker with it enough to get results. Depends how the players, if they stay with them and if Kane can stay fit and get those goals, they may have an opportunity. Everybody else for me is playing for Europa League. I think he wants to try and say that soft side of toting them away, Marino. Unfortunately this whole, the way Tottenham playing or the way Glen Aldall teams played and all that type of stuff, they're probably going to have to get away from that unfortunately because they're never going to win anything by playing like that unfortunately. And that's what probably Marino was brought in for, to start putting a few trophies on the table. Well he's the bridge isn't he? He's the bridge. If you start winning then mentality comes with the fans it comes with the players. Exactly. And then maybe you can evolve your style over the years. Because even as good as Particino was he didn't really win anything. Oh he won nothing in five years. I think the last trade for the one was under the Spanish Guard, the Juan de Ramos, which is a long time ago now. For the size of Tottenham we've got a brand new stage and I'm sure they want to try and get up to the heights of your man cities in your Liverpools. He's obviously had a big job because they're an agent team as well Tottenham so they've got to start bringing a few younger players for you but I just think he's a big reason why they would probably be my outsider for the top four. And let's be honest with you we don't know, like we've just been talking a minute ago, we just don't know how our teams are going to, I suppose they're going to adapt as well to next season with the whole fans situation and all that as well. So I think like you said it's too early to really be saying who's going to be doing this and who's going to be doing that until there's no guarantee that Verna and Ziatch are going to come in and set the world alight like you just said. The two lads who've just played, the young lads who've played in Holland and Germany and Holland, we've seen with some players who haven't bought, they were really good in Holland and then come to the Premier League and struggle. One thing we saw this week was the, we know who's now playing in the Premier League next season, obviously the champions you play off took place at Wembley yesterday. It wasn't a great game, let's be honest, I think fans would have made it better. It's always a cautious game because there's so much at stake in it. I don't know whether I've ever seen two football and teams who like to play football, pass the ball back as much as both of these clubs did last night, it was incredible. They'd get so far up the pitch saying and go start again and it was like if you actually took a chance you'd be through and full on won it, Joe Bryan with a brilliant free kick but obviously improvisation and then the second goal was fantastic and obviously Brentford did get a very, very late goal through the answer, wasn't it late on? They will look back at this Brentford and see a huge opportunity gone, I think. They had two games at the end of the season to clinch promotion and didn't win either of them. They went into this playoff situation, must have faced and recovered really well and I thought that might have just given that kick again with momentum but Fulham and Scott Parker did really well and have got themselves up. Yeah, I think probably overall I thought Fulham just deserved to win because I felt like Brentford just ran out of ideas the last couple of weeks. A great team to watch, Joe in the last couple of months, really like the way they're trying to do things. There's a club but I think Fulham had a bit more, you could tell they played in playoff finals and playoff semi-finals before and you could tell by the way they played, they just played the right game and they had Mitch Ravitch up front who could play it up front, holds the ball up well and it looks like they've got them solid. Fair play, it's got Parker forward, he'd come across really well after the game as well, classy interview, seems a classy bloke and it's been interesting to see what happens with Brentford especially with the hole and I've seen links with Olly Walkins and Ben Rahmer as well. Ben Rahmer, they'll make you think well they have to, if them players get sold, their model is just starting again. So it'll be interesting to see what happens with Brentford next season. Well Benham's done that actually, he's done that and they've done it through the data, they've done the data brilliantly, they've recycled players but people like Hogan for cheap and sold them to Villa for 20 million and things like that, they've been able to do it year on year. I'm guessing they'll want to keep that team together but if someone comes call them with money, he will just have to reinvest it and they are clever the way they do it and I'd like to have seen him get up because I like things like that being the world. Different isn't it as well? They're a bit different, they're moving from Griffin Park as well as summer and into a new stadium. So hopefully they can keep the team together and they can do well but full on back up and you know Scott Parker's done really well. That's some big decisions to make this, they stuck with them, they got the reward. Last time they came up they tore it all up and spent 120 million and both players that were never fitting and they were dreadful. So it's going to be interesting now whether he keeps what he's got and just adds a couple of... It seems like he wants hungry players Parker, I don't know if you lad the ad, they've got a lot of young lads trying to get into the team as well. I think Parker will use next season to try and keep the same group I imagine together and add the odd bit of experience. Do you think that the example of Sheffield United's sake is something that they should follow? The two examples are Norwich and Sheffield United both tried to go with what they had, Norwich ultimately failed but they failed for me because they tried to play a brand of football that while it's commendable it was frawit mistakes in the Premier League. Premier League strikers punished Sheffield United. I worry about Norwich's feelings. They're in a different situation because he's trying to get some steeliness in there. If you let it look full on, you could equate them to Sheffield United. They don't play the same game but Scott Parker's got a core of players and he got up with him. Now if they reward those players by staying with the majority of them then they've got an opportunity. Let's take the fourth from bottom to success next season for them. Exactly and they can't be going down the same route as they did and Aston Villa did last season. Villa got lucky didn't he? Villa got lucky with that goal basically which was over the line. That goes in the down only. It's going to be a tough season for them next year. No doubt about it. There's no way I can see them doing a Sheffield United pair. Sheffield United had a bit more quality in the team. They've been together probably a lot longer as well. I do think it'll be a tough season for Fulham. I used to have four from bottoms of success but it'll be interesting to see what type of business they do especially after the last time of wasting all 100 million on players. It's just weren't good enough. They moved away from what they'd done being successful for them didn't they? It was really strange. The players you got them up you can't just forget them all which was really strange. It's not good on it. Villa have proved it this year. You can't bring in that many players. Expect to settle. Expect to do all right because Premier League teams just take you the path. The good thing with Fulham, last thing I'd say on them is that at least they've got a striker. Probably a Premier League striker I'd say in Mitsjevic. I'm not saying he's a great striker but I look at the other clubs who have come up leads in West Brom. They haven't got anything like that. He's done it before on the Premier League. I thought that was quite a brave decision as well not to play him last night. They only put him on with. I know where it ended up going the way it did into Exeter Time but they only put him on in the 87th minute. In 13 days he said that's probably might be the reason why. Well maybe but he just wondered whether he'd go with him to start just to set the tempo but he knew what he was doing and he'd come on. I mean he potentially could have been sent off. He would have been sent off on the Premier League with that. You can't put it doesn't matter whether it's a show or it wasn't. He put his arm down and fell his throat hit a record and he is a hothead. So they have to make sure they look after that but he is a lad who is capable of scoring holes for the show. You know. Just some transfer news. Obviously Nathan Ache has arrived in Manchester today to complete his medical and his move from Bournemouth 41 million. What have you made of that one? I've seen you and Andy talking about last week. I think it's a lot of money for a player. He's an OK player in my opinion. He's alright. I don't think he's Manchester City standard. No. I think he's probably top. Just like probably maybe an Arsenal Tottenham type standard. I don't get the hype to be honest with you Nathan Ache. I've seen him a couple of times. I think he's a bit rash at times. I think he's good on the ball which is probably the reason why City of Bowles I imagine. I know Andy has said he can play a number of positions left back in front of the back. But I think I'm unsure on it. I suppose it's up to Pep to improve him isn't it? Yeah. I suppose when Van Dyck left Salvant and no one knew he was going to be as good as he's turned out to be for Liverpool. If Pep can get half of that out of him. He's a Dutch international. He's going to be interested. Obviously the Ferentores completed this to Manchester City yesterday. It's a show United saying they won't be bullied into paying what Dortmund want for them. What's interesting is if it goes through it with the feed he thinks it's going to go through for Manchester City he'll get £15 million as a sell-on as well. Ferentores takes a chunk out of that straight away doesn't it? With a player who's not even theirs now so. I think many eyes need to be careful because I think they've done a few bullying tactics of players before so you can't have it all your own way. Arsenal have offered William a three-year deal, £7.5 million a year according to reports on the day they've made 55 staff with Dumdans. Also got Mesut Housel selling 350 grand a week as well. Doesn't sit right there for me. No for me either. To me obviously Arsenal have always been one of them clubs where you've had a bit of class as well. Well it's kind of. It's way in though over the last four years. I know Michael Arthetter isn't very happy in rumours of that. Things are not smooth beyond the scenes there. So it's a watch this space on him. I'm sure the people who've got a major done none will be happy to see a player walking on 150 grand a week. Saltampton have signed Salasru from Valladoleth for £10.9 million, looks like a decent sign for them. Tyndall, the assistant manager at Bournemouth, once the job Jason Tyndall has been with Eddie Hale for years. Hale obviously left the club the other day. I mean just very briefly on Eddie Hale leaving. Surprised? No, it wasn't. I was seeing it into you after the aventgame and I felt like he had it all written all over his face. So he was going to, this time of Bournemouth was over to be honest with you. I think it's the right decision for him and the club to be honest with you. I think he needs to probably go away now and have a break and see what his next move will be after this. But he looked broken man to be honest with you after the aventgame. I think he'll feel it because he's built that club up. I think his issue was he didn't know how to defend and that's ultimately cost him. I think you could probably throw him in to a team there at the top and he'd play lovely football and wing games but if he can't defend it doesn't mean anything. We saw that at Everton with Roberto Martinez and you've got to get to defend. I was used to comparing him to Martinez, I actually think they were very similar. You've got to get the principles at the back, right? You've got to if you don't. Look at the Premier League Liverpool, got it right with the goalkeeper on Van Dijk in Wonder League, city of got it wrong. Why they all are still hasn't solved up the company situation and they've ended up not winning the league. Being miles away this year, united, struggled because Harry Maguire isn't great. They haven't got a partner for him, that brings the best out of him. That's why Dave had a soft centre, Chelsea at times they see and haven't had it perfect. You've got to get that, you know, the centre backs, right? City, you've got Nathan Achy now coming in. There's talks, they want Cula Barley as well. If they've got him, then they're backing business then. If you've got Cula Barley then... That's a bit like what Liverpool did at Van Dijk. I mean there's talks that City want another five players. You know they want to replace David Silverwell, Ferran Torres possibly. I don't know, and obviously Phil Foden, it's been fantastic. Cula Barley, they're talking about bringing another centre forward in, cos Aguero's 32 now. Bami Ang, possibly, but then... Right, that's maybe. Is he the right age? I don't know it, Martin, it's just for the money. I think they want 110 million, I think, into, which is why he hasn't gone to Barcelona. Very, very interesting. It is going to be interesting as we move forward because there's a lot of stuff going on. A lot of clubs will do a lot of business, definitely. Especially the top end of the league. I think you're just trying... Obviously same with United, the amount of money they're spending. I don't think by the looks of it, it's affected. The likes of you man cities and you man United by the looks of it. Of course the top couple mightn't do City. I've got money to spend here now. Chelsea have got a free eight, which is right. I know Liverpool have been cautious and go because of the money. They've got about to lose this season, it's a hell of a lot. As you move, love it down, we're all losing money because no fans in the stadium call for it when people are worried. So it may be a sell loan. Sell before you can buy a loan. For a lot of clubs I've seen that. We've seen Totland do a deal yesterday with Huyberg for 50 million but then in a separate deal, Southampton bought Calvoch or Peters for 12 million. So it was only three million. The way they do it on their balance sheet. So it is all very, very interesting. Obviously Europe's back as well this weekend. So it should be very watchable I think because the games are going to be the one off. I think the champions are the games. I'm not really looking forward to it, especially Friday. Well Friday we've got obviously Juventus Leon at 1-0 to Leon. You'd expect you'd be able to turn around, especially given Leon. They've only played friendlies in five months. City Beaton Railman did two-one from the first leg. And then on Saturday night we've got Barse and Napoli which is one-one currently. So that's it. It's so fun. You know, an interest on one obviously behind Munich three-up against Chelsea. So you'd expect that was over. And then obviously the Champions League quarter-finals begin on next Wednesday with Atlanta PSG on one off game. So that's looking very, very interesting. Who do you fancy for the Champions League? I feel like City. I've got a great chance but then because it's one off games, I don't know. It's the reality because who clicks at the right? By Munich. By Munich are brilliant. I said at the start of the season, I fancy PSG. PSG? I don't know why. If they get him back, he's back as well. If he's fit. If he's fit but he's got a bad challenge. Obviously Neymar fit at the moment as well. So I thought it was a funny feeling. I said PSG, I think I have to watch some bath around and said it was 3-0. 3-0 at the start of the year. I just thought this might be the year for PSG. This will be a great chance for them because it's the one off games. You've got to said it before over two legs, but if you click on the night, I suppose everybody's got the opportunity. Atlanta might never get a better opportunity than this one. They've played the most recently so they'll probably have the advantage. But when I look at squads, City stand out for me but then again, so do Bayern Munich. They've watched a lot of Bayern Munich and they are incredible. Alfonso Davies, the pace of them. They've rebuilt themselves incredibly well. They did look very good. Lewand Dotschir, he gave him a chance of fun to go. Napley's been brilliant this season for them. They've just got players all over the pitch who can really hear you. So in a one off, Muller Thomas Muller looks like he's back to his best. He looked really good after lockdown Muller, cos I thought he was on a bit of a diet. You did, but then you just looked at them now. They've all flyers. They're after other players, quick players, and you're thinking these look like a team. It's going to be interesting, it'll be good. I'm not really looking forward to the Champions League. It should be good, it should be very good. There you go. Let us know what you think in the comments section. If you want to watch this live, then join us on Patreon. Don't forget to subscribe to the Footie Show channel as well, if you haven't already. This is a home for this one. 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