 Yes, welcome back to entrepreneurship Tuesday on why and the morning my name is Barry Moses or it's very one social media Yes, it's time for first interview of the day So that three things in life the mind body and soul and we need all these things to work and sink In order to achieve everything that we put our minds to and today We are going to be focusing on one aspect and what other way to do it Then to have Isaac Mugai in studio to dissect this. Thank you. Thank you, Barry. I appreciate Your camera is number four. Just introduce yourself in case I left anything out. All right. So my name is Isaac Mugai I must see you human I'm reading and That's not immediately important. What is important is is that I'm a youth advocate I like talking about the youth. I like addressing issues that Relate to the youth and everything that Everything that relates to that. All right. Yes, the youth is the youth are an endangered specie. Really? Yeah Everybody talks about the I think it's the human. I think it's it's the whole human But most of the times we find Projects for the youth projects about the youth projects seeking to solve problems for the youth. Why the youth for you? For me, I feel like these are the people who are energetic for me I see are you the we have very many definitions about a youth like one one of them is a youth is person under the age of 35 There's another definition of a youth is that I use anybody who has energy. That's more of religious Exactly, but for me I use the I use is anybody who has strength to work you get a point Yes, so for me, I feel like the youth are so important The youth are so important at the backbone of any economy any country you really need the youth in any kind of they are the drivers They're the engine of any economy. That's why you chose to focus on the youth and you're so passionate about mental health But before we talk about mental health, there's something this is not your first time on set Yeah, there's something we talked about last time and this is about organizational Health check. Yes. Yes. Just break this down for them. What you do at humanum Before we can carry on with the topic of the day. So you mentioned about mental health This is just like an inverse of Mental health organizational health is we try to look within an organization the same same way that as a human You can look within yourself. So an organization because it's a human enterprise Within the organization Organizational health when you talk about health, I'm looking at a human body a human body as one So do you consider an organization? Do you look at it as a living organism when you're looking at organizational health? Absolutely. It's a living organism because you have living living things as part of it Yeah, because without the people within the organization Do you have a company really? All right? So like we have cells in you know bodies the the human resource and the cells to the organization All right in this analogy you what is the head? The head the head of the leaders the head of the leaders. All right. The hands The hands are maybe this is for my son Maybe the people who are working. Yeah, but every part is important. The mouth. Yeah, because I think What you're trying to what you're trying to ask in all in all in all this is Who is who in an organization? Yes, we have roles we have roles within an organization But I don't think the roles are important The roles are not that important is that we need to realize that we're dealing with people within an organization first Yeah, you have before their own exactly because when you hire a hand it comes when you hire and it comes with the heart To you know because we've made this a little bit technical that these are just people to earn money and Really hate our jobs nowadays. You really want if you can fight and I'm out of this out You don't even want Monday to come back again You don't have to be in this place. Yeah, and you take that stress at home because you're not happy at work Trust me the same same energy eject it at home at your place. And you know Barry You spend a lot of time in work Mm-hmm should actually be paying rent at what more than home Yeah, we should actually How many years did you spend with your mom? Maybe 20 years or 25 I'm very sure to you. I'm very sure time for sure So you spend a lot of time away from home away from home. All right So the rest of your life you're working. So this needs to be solved this part of our lives We need to see it as a human enterprise These are people that you're dealing with all right in the best organization right now are Looking at a human a human being as a person You know, you do not care about the profits right now because let me tell you Barry You see there's some of the things that you cannot force out of people like trust You cannot force people to be trustworthy. It's aunt. Yeah, exactly. You cannot force people to be creative You can't you can't just tell people a man. I want you to be I want you to come up with something today These are a result of people when they feel secure within an organization happy you see there's a first rule of sale Just take us there The first rule the first rule of sale in a koanga come to like your customer and then When there is a rapport He'll try to do business. Yes. I think that's a little bit awkward I think is that you should be able to like your customer You should be able to like this person because the person that you like you'll be able to protect them You know what to do what is? Why so as from eyes are great that if you like someone you'll be able to protect them You'll be able to protect their rights and you want to infringe on anything You want to sell them something that is going to cause cause danger to their lives wonderful That is something about organizational Organizational health check right the last day we talked you were telling me it's It's growing in the country and people are getting to realize the importance of this. How is the state so far? this is so far right now It's a We are doing good, but we are not that good. We need to we need to do much better You really need to our organizations have started. I've started considering this We've seen some of the major organizations some of them are listening to the voice of the people and they're making changes according to What people are saying because now they're realizing it's not about the profits It's not really about making money. It's about what these people are saying No, no, it's about it's about listening to them because millennials are hard people to deal with For sure very hard people to deal with but again it that it's the this is the generation that you can really enjoy Once you understand them once you understand what they need So I think as a country we are not doing that good, but we're headed in it. We are lost in the right direction We are lost in the right There's a lot of poetry going on. I wish this was best. Do you remember we have a question on Facebook? What is the easiest amount of the easiest cash you've earned in your life and did it last and how did you spend it? That is at Y25 for Facebook and we have Isaac we guy in the studio the CEO of human up and this guy is a focused on this So let's talk about mental health What is how would you define it because? It's very easy to Misunderstand Yes, some people might get offended if you tell them I don't think you're mentally stable I don't think I don't think your mind is healthy people are easily people tend to get offended when you tell them things like this How would you define mental health? So mental health is a is a is a state of mind is a state of mind is how it's how you How you perceive things around you how you able to perceive things around you like right now in it look into this room Well, and what can I see to somebody else? You can you can bring into this room and the perception of them above this room and something else different So that's the state of mind. I see things around you So for me, I think mental health is the stability of that seeing things the way they are seeing things the way There seem things do they are all right say we have a glass It's half full. Yeah, the the cliche analogy. Yeah seeing things the way they are Somebody will see a half full glass somebody will see a half empty glass But that is the way things are But to some person now another person will say this person is Momentally I'm lost forwards, but you get what I'm saying the person who sees the glass Half full is more optimistic. The other one is pessimistic Seeing things the way they are it's all about perspective. Yes. Yes. And some people will find A problem with every solution some people will find a solution for every problem. Yeah, so which side is it? So I use an analogy buddy. Allow me. I don't know if I have time for this But there was this friend of mine. Uh, not actually it's not our friend. It's just like a story So, uh, this guy went for an interview and this guy wasn't went for an interview And the question that he was asked is Tell me tell us because now this was the question that That was being used so that you could pass the interview and a kaulizua. So tell us which is for the moon Or narok. Yeah, narok is where I come from. So narok, which is for he was the interviews in Nairobi And then this man Sat and he thought and he said the moon Narok is far and you just the people were surprised. What would narok be further than the moon? And uh, so this person said, uh, I can see the moon, but I cannot see narok so you see that That itself that itself is very important. You're talking about mental health about perception It's very important. You can perceive things wrongly You'll be thinking that you're doing good things and you'll be happy. You'll be doing the wrong things No, no, so it's not about looking up to anyone or looking down to anyone is the ability to just look It's the ability to just look seeing the person as he is. Why do you have to call somebody good or bad? Why do you have to see a situation either good or bad? No, no, it's it's about being able to just see the person as they are Seeing the situation as it is You don't have to leave it label it as good or bad Just understand the situation just understand it and move For it move from it. I get that. How is it how important is it? For success to achieve success. What are the links between? mental health and success mental health I do not want to emphasize mostly about the mind because I feel like I feel like we we really talk about the mind so much and you make the head Our This part of the brain so important and there's a liver too and there's other parts of the body the pancreas and The important I feel like You see like the famous philosophers who like to say that I think therefore I am But really Barry you think about this. Yes. Do you exist so you think or do you Think so you exist Can I tell the viewers to help me? The viewers can help us. Do you exist to think or do you think so you can exist exactly Because you have to exist first. Yes You have to exist first so you can think so we've put the mind like it's it's it's uh It feels that I see the point. It's like a god. It's like a god And that's what is happening right now. We are having something. I hope it's that I want to use a mental diarrhea A mental diarrhea the thoughts are happening compulsively given the mind so much power That it's just a part. It's just a In the in the vastness of the cosmos. It's just a speck So whole health is a wholesome. It needs a wholesome approach. Exactly. It's not it's not it's It's important for success really. Yeah, because you have to think Ultimately you have to think But you you need to know how to stop thinking the problem is not thinking you need to know when to stop to think Because right now people even who are undergoing depression other people who cannot stop thinking Exactly and that is actually the definition of depression right there the layman's definition of depression Ultimate success is about a balance You've mentioned when you started the show the body mind and soul whatever the soul is I don't know if it's the left or the right So it's a balance. It's a balance It's a balance of everything It's a balance of the body the body this part And the mind which is an accumulation of impressions that you see even body Whatever you call a body is not you No, no because you're talking about going within We need to understand that you see when you're talking about organizational health We say about going within the organization as a human being we talk about going within But where is where is this within? Why is this inside body? Because really if you if you try to look at your life right now You eat food, right? Yes, for sure eaten food and then the banana was uh, how did you know it was a banana? Okay, maybe say the This guy is really mine. All right. I can be a mystic So you eat a banana and the banana after some few years it becomes you It becomes you. So literally whatever you have there is an accumulation of food. Whatever I'm looking at for sure So that's not you. This is food that I'm looking at water and water Whatever you have in your mind is an accumulation of impression depending on experiences that you went through since you were young So whatever you have in your mind is just impressions So really who are you? Why is inside? So this is just a question to us ourselves. Who is inside when you're talking about going within myself? Why is this inside? so Inside it's very simple. You can realize by realizing what is not you So you know you just a simple just a simple exercise in this room like Okay, I'm not I'm not obviously I'm not this television. I'm not this piece of I'm not this piece of glass here I'm not my wife Your children your children I'm not Your children will tell you even by themselves that you're not they're not part of you so The moment you continue asking these questions and maybe realizing what is not you in life What is you will come? So you don't need to think about these things. Just let life Let life come All right, it's that simple let life come all right at the end of the day when For me to stay alive. I need to eat that banana in the morning I eat I need to I need to drink that water. I need to walk a bit. I need to stretch All right I'm guessing that is the same for me. I'll take you back to the mind again So at least you know the basics. It's uh, it's a primal instinct to survive physically Yes, you know, you have to stretch a bit. You know, you have to eat But the mind Not so many people know what to feed it. They're not so many people know how to take care of it Not so many people know The link between what's here and what you're going to give out So what are some of the tips you'd give somebody who? Who wants to to be full I'm a fan of Bruce Lytton. Bruce Lytton is a famous scientist and he talks about How in your young and the neural pathos are formed the neural pathos are Some parts of the brain that form when you're young You see there is this Nononophilos is the scientist. It's a it's a research that says that your personality forms at the age of six Six years old your personality has already formed at that time. All right. Is it influenced by this? It it was influenced by how you grew up the experience Between zero and six zero and six. So whatever you're exposed to the neural pathos is formed. So that's how your personality form I don't know. That's what the scientists say But Bruce Lytton tends to say this that you see it's so hard for you to change at this age At at your age, you know, because they've already locked The personalities have already locked. So whatever you're thinking that you're doing right now You're thinking that it's conscious, but it's subconscious. So the subconscious mind 95% affect your behavior right now So you you think that literally That you're doing whatever whatever you're doing is very conscious and you're doing it out of women But literally it's something that Happened Has been exactly data that has been fed to your brain over time. Exactly So about feeding the mind is about realizing some of the subconscious part of you And uh, the only way that leads us back to going within exactly So, uh, what happens is that uh in psychology, we say metacognition Metacognition is thinking about your thoughts Thinking about what you're thinking. So you might Why go in that situation like you get out of yourself and then you look at yourself Criticize yourself. Ah, so this person blah blah blah. Yeah, so, uh About feeding the mind. It's uh, it's important to realize that you interrogate How you're feeling Listen to how you're feeling and then after you listen to how you're feeling Then the next step is Feed your mind with what you want. I don't know what you want pain or pleasure Pleasure But a little bit of pain sometimes it goes along with you do want some pain The pain is inevitable anyway. The pain is inevitable suffering is a suffering is a You you you hope for the best, uh, but you prepare for the worst So, uh, whatever you want pleasure you you continue doing that repetitively repetitively because your neural path is formed when you're young So in order to change them in order to change them, you'll need a lot of work It's I won't tell you it's simple. I won't tell you it's simple If you need to go to a psychiatrist if you need to read a book do it you need to change You know that goddamn a when you when you're reading it to come dog. You know how hard that was So easy, but you can write that a okay. Yes for sure. Yeah, so it's it's not that easy But it's a process but again. It's very simple. It's a process. It's a journey It's not that easy, but it's very simple when you realize it All right, so it's all about self realization talk to yourselves talk to your thoughts All right at what point do you know that all right? I need to stop thinking now I've been thinking too much. I need to stop thinking. How do you even know? That's a funny question. Yes, because we talked about it and it's not easy to stop Sometimes you just think and think and think and think Some people go to the extent of hurting themselves physically exactly. So, uh, the only way that you can know that you are That uh, your thoughts are on overdrive. They're happening compulsively All right Yeah, it's gonna happen compulsively is when they start they start acting against you Because it cannot your thoughts it reaches a point when you know, the mind was supposed to protect a human being literally In in in our world today the way the mind was created by the creator. You know the creator Uh, it was supposed to protect us from danger Oh, no, no, but literally what is happening right now the mind is acting against us The mind is happening against us. You see when it reaches that point, you'll know you you have that intelligence. You will know You'll know buddy. Everybody will you will know. You will know everybody has that intelligence As you say you can't lie to yourself. You can't lie to yourself if you're honest with yourself You'll know that at this point you know my mind in any It's going against All right, what do you do when you feel like your mind is going against you? I've heard that you can combine physical Exercise you can combine physical activities to some brain mental exercises but sometimes Sometimes it's easier said than done, you know Yeah, so you see you see this question is like a person sitting under a tree and then he says That So what should you do in that case? All right, you just get up and work Yeah, get up and work Simple when Find shelter It's that simple. Exactly. Wonderful. Why 254 channel on twitter, why 24 underscore channel on instagram and why 254 on facebook is the way to interact with us Remember, we have a question on facebook. What is the easiest cash you've ever earned and how long did it last? And what did you spend it on white five four on facebook? We have isaac. We guy in studio And he's sharing some Jams with us today for sure. All right. What is the power of talking just sharing when it comes to creativity when it comes to organizational setups just that Chatting and talking to your peers and sharing ideas and bouncing ideas What is the power of that because some people tend to keep to themselves because they think people are going to know so much about them They don't want to let people in or people are going to steal their ideas What is that power of just always sharing or even finding someone you can always talk to It's communication is very important and I want to mention one thing is that People are not perfect. Yeah, if you really need perfect people I think the best people to deal with and the people who are absolute are two people only The dead and god the dead and god the dead and god those are the perfect people So if you need perfect people, I think you need to go to heaven right now. Literally as you speak right now Whatever heaven is Exactly or go to the mochari Those are perfect people But you have to realize that when you're dealing with people these are Variables they change each and every day worry if you have a girlfriend. I don't know or if you have a wife Any miscommunication Can any miscommunication can lead the relation to a different relationship to a different direction Just one word if you keep quiet right now, maybe for your girlfriend for one week. Trust me Things are going to change Those are red flags already, you know But for god you can keep quiet to god for one year and you come back and that's the way people like god Yeah, because you can keep quiet today and you come back next year When you're in trouble when you've done all your things you've yoloed, you know But god is still going to listen still going to be there The dead are still going to be there and I'm not sure about the dead. Maybe they will change Yes, the body It's very important to realize that when you're dealing with people these are variables. They change each and every day and You when you have that in mind, you're not going to be judging people And that's why earlier on I said, you know need to look up to anyone Or down on anyone you should be able just to look at people the way they are just relates to people Communication is very important. Speak your mind out. Speak your mind out and um I was reading a book and uh, this book is uh, I don't know if you watched the movie of titans Yeah, yeah 300 and I like these patterns a lot and you know, you know, what happens to these patterns is that They're one of the revered armies and you know when they make those chants and uh, and everything It's so it's so interesting and one thing that you do not know about the titans is that The most important thing is not the breastplate. It's not it's not uh, it's not uh, the spear It's the shield that is very important. All right, you see if you lose the shield You are punished even you lose the citizenship. You can be spared if you lose your spear Only one reason why you should why this why the shield is very important You see the patterns have the formations that they do form and what they say is that if you lose the breastplate Or if you lose your helmet is for your own protection the helmet and the breastplate they're for your own protection But the shield protects the line it protects the line when you're making that formation and you've seen those formations that they Exactly, so we should be able to protect each other in an organization And that does not come I don't want to say understand because understanding is overrated. Yeah, too much understanding is creepy Yeah, too much understanding is creepy. I really don't want somebody to understand me Are you you have some shadows that yes might freak you out as a dark side exactly Understanding is overrated. What people mean when they say that I want to be understood is that they want inclusion So in an organization, there should be inclusion You should be the bigger person you should be able to include every person in your life in your life That's all they just need. That's what everybody needs So inclusion communication inclusion straw communication communication is just that inclusion Because you just can't include up you just you just can't Include without communicating exactly it happens when there's inclusion this communication Yeah, it's wonderful. Thank you very much Isaac for the gems you've dropped today One thing I'd like you to share with the viewers before you leave as somebody out there as a startup Is outsourcing some Some services So he's running some form of organization from home or whatever. What is that advice you'd give this person? Profits aside just growing the organization Healthily So this is my camera. Yeah, that is your camera. So look them straight into the eyes So, uh, what I'd like to tell you is that very simple is that Just know your why once you realize why you're doing what you're doing The rest qw's that the rest is The rest is workable. All right. Just know why simple and what know what I didn't say what why Just say why why you're doing what you're doing. Is it what is the most important? Why is the most important question of what you're doing because before you get into it You already know what you're doing. Exactly. So why you need to know you're why you're doing what you're doing If you feel comfortable, if you if you feel like it's for the benefits for the benefit of the people Go all out. I always say that If you love Love strong if you hate Headstrong. No, whatever you decide to do Do it with all your heart Give it all you're good. Exactly Our question on facebook has to be answered as well. What is the easiest Cache you've ever earned the easiest cash that I don't can remember I don't know what you mean by what I mean Like that one that impressed you you didn't break a sweat as much and you were like, oh, I aren't this I uncash without breaking Because you do what you love Thank you very much. I appreciate we appreciate you so much. This is your second time. I'm looking forward to that one Please let's have that. All right. Let's connect that body mind and soul as I as Isaac said and know your why Why are you doing whatever you're doing? That is the most important question You should be asking yourself and the most important question today is that one on facebook What is the easiest cash you've earned and how did you spend it and how long did it last? Why do I phone facebook interact with us? We'll be sharing your opinions and your views towards the end of the show. 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