 Run it up, they run it back. Run it up, they run it back. Run it back, run it back. Run it up, run it back. Good Wednesday morning. Welcome to Run It Back here on Fandall TV. Three hats and no hat. I mean, shoms. Shoms, do you ever wear a ball cap? Yeah, I don't know if I've ever seen shoms. Never in my life would I wear a hat. Ever. Do you own some? The hair is too small. What about beanie shoms? I just donate them. And even like hats in the wintertime, I'm never going to be in a hat. I'll be wearing those like little mufflers, ear mufflers. That's about all I have. Wow, wow, wow. Look at us lured in this morning. We could do another hour on the things shoms won't wear. I'm excited about this. Okay, but we can't because we have basketball. And we have some news as well. But let's start with the Clippers Timberwolves game last night. This was a late game. The Clippers Timberwolves do storm back though. They win 1-18-100. Edwards 37-8-4. Conley had his 23 points. But it was Kawhi the story of the night who leaves in the third or first quarter. I'm sorry. Shoms, this is just one of those moments where you're like, no, no, no, no, no, not again. Please don't be. But he left first quarter. What's the latest on Kawhi Leonard? Yeah, there was a drive that Kawhi Leonard made in that first quarter. Went and tugged at his back a little bit. He left the game with back spasms. He was walking gingerly. A post-game as he was exiting the arena. He's been dealing with it for at least the last few days. He was so uncomfortable. The Clippers said instead of sitting on the bench, decided it was best for him to go home. And there's obvious concern when it comes to back spasms. It really just depends on how your back reacts to treatment over the coming days. I mean, Chandler Liu can probably speak to back spasms more than I can as dealing with it as professional athletes. But the hope for the Clippers is that you mitigate it and it just kind of goes away. But with back spasms, you just don't know and the Clippers are about to embark on a little bit of a long road trip when it comes to travel. They're going from LA to Chicago today and then they play the Pelicans on Friday. So Bulls Thursday, Pelicans in New Orleans on Friday. That's a tough back to back for them, especially with the travel. Just quite Leonard even make the trip given that he couldn't even sit on the bench because of how uncomfortable he was with that back. But these things can be uncomfortable and it just depends on timing and treatment as far as when he could be back on the floor. And they're sitting there in the four spot. Chandler, you up first. The reaction to this news and it being a back issue which seems to be something you can never predict. Yeah, like you said they're so unpredictable where the back spasms, they come and they go and there's different treatments you can do. There's massage there's hot tubs. There's different ways to kind of treat these but they're so unpredictable and they come and go. You never know when they're happening. So kind of for them to fully settle you kind of just have to sit out for a while which obviously this time of the year is the most important time of the year for guys to be getting healthy and powering up for this last stretch going into the postseason. So it's tough because like we've talked about it's you don't know when they're coming. There's not even really a timetable for back spasms because they're so unpredictable. So it's just awful timing. Clearly he's in a lot of pain and this kind of this bothers you every single movement you make. It's not like something you can really play through. It affects your lateral movement. Often it kind of affects everything. So it's definitely not good the flip side the Clippers are a very deep team so this is the luxury not like you know a Boston and a Denver if you know they lose a key player they don't have much to kind of sub in there and it's not easy just to replace Kauai but hopefully these just chill out settle down and he can get back in line up quick and not miss too much time. Yeah and I listen and I can I can attest to it you know I play basketball for the first time in about six months I'm dealing with back spasms right now you know I'm dealing with back spasms right now extremely uncomfortable especially when you playing at the pro level and you're Kauai Leonard and you're trying to win the NBA championship completely different standard than what I'm dealing with and I'm telling you right now I'm having a hard time walking around even laying in my bed just trying to find some some comfort you know and so I sympathize with Kauai and this is going to be a major impact on the Clippers man I thought once they made this trade for James Harden Paul George came out of it as the best player that was going to benefit the most from it as time went on it was clear that it was going to be Kauai Leonard and he was the best player and this is going to be very impactful when you talk about the Clippers their best when they're a hole and for this guy to go out it's going to be interesting to see what Paul George and James Harden can do along with the rest of the cast of guys you know and so not just even on the offensive end defensively Kauai Leonard is going to be their anchor along with you know sending guys to the seven footer Zubak back there so you know this is going to be impactful it'll be interesting to see how long he sits out and I'll tell you this a flight to Chicago is not going to help it you know you can do all the ice to stem that stuff is even more aggravating and that's going to keep prolonging it he's traveling up he's going in and out of film sessions to practice I'm assuming he's going to get shut down for some time until he's fully healed to get healthy when it matters I mean if sitting hurts I yeah sitting on a flight and going to be better even laying down I don't know what you're supposed to do about it but we have to talk now about Paul George and James Harden this unfortunately was the news I think Clippers fans maybe subconsciously thought one of them would get hurt but hope that it wouldn't happen so let's talk about Harden here can we get some vintage Harden out of this Chandler man I hope so I hope so it's going to have to be more than 17 points five rebounds ASS he's going to have to go straight up Houston James Harden and this is why they did that all these guys you know what you're going to get from Paul George right he's going to be pretty solid he's healthy he's going to produce James Harden's kind of been hit or miss hot and cold this season so I'd love to see him get back in his bag continue to be passive and get these other guys involved around him but it's now time we don't know how much time Kawhi is going to miss but they have enough talent between him between Norman Powell Paul George they have enough talent to pick up the slack and like I said you can't just replace Kawhi Leonard this isn't as bad as like Luca going down for the maps isn't as bad as like Yoko just going down for the nuggets you can't just replace Kawhi Leonard but they do have a collective balance deep team where they can get contributions from the coffees and the bone highlands of the world that they can kind of chip in but I would love to see James this this next game back just kind of be super aggressive take 25 shots I'm sure Tyron Liu I'm sure Paul George they don't mind those two guys carrying the load while Kawhi Leonard's out so we're going to find out if he's still got in the tank to carry a team got tough back to back ahead of him we'll keep our eye on that the other side of things ant dominated this one 37 points but it's the sound we want to get to here he is after the game telling us why the Clippers couldn't hold him back what a game this was you exploded in that third quarter what were you seeing out there just a bunch of mismatches yeah pretty much care to elaborate I mean you know they best the finish Kawhi Kawhi went down and you know they was just putting two on me and trying stuff so and I hit one shot and I just got going Lou you first seems honest very honest I'm listening I'm gonna tell y'all the truth he's from Atlanta he's from Atlanta he's I speak the language I understand undertones when you see when he has a big smile on his face and he's saying a bunch of mismatches can none of y'all guard me that was his professional way of saying y'all can't do nothing with me and y'all never will be able to do nothing with me and man is special he's coming he's coming into his own for whatever for whatever reason he got a bone to pick with the Clippers every time they play he's either calling me he's going at the head so he's saying that that it's a mismatch everywhere he goes he has a thing for the Clippers so this is getting interesting for me this is gonna be one of those matchups I like to see at the end of the road in the Western Conference to see what's really going on yeah I I mean everything every day I don't think I can like this guy anymore than he says some stuff like that I'm just it's it's hilarious and there was a couple plays last night to where he's just clamping Paul George on passing lane gets out and transition it's just so much fun and on the break this is ISO game is insane and like Lou said this he even said after the game to himself said this is a statement game he realized that they may have to go through this team in the playoffs I don't care that Carl Anthony Towns is down I'm the guy none of you can guard me double team be triple team whatever I'm still gonna get 37 on your head and Kawhi Leonard did go out but not as re-rolled his ankle bear got hurt late in the game to their second best player is out so they're banged up just as much as the Clippers are banged up and Anthony Edwards took this on himself to go and dominate and make sure his team got this way and he got a huge contributions from Alexander Walker like Conley found his offensive game last night think he had five three so they did get some some balanced attack from other guys but Anthony Edwards had something to prove and he said himself this is a statement they're trying to you know pick their matchups they want to win every single game and get that number one seed in games like this it's hard not to think they're going to do it I will stay with Anthony Edwards for a second because last week he was he missed the tip off because he lost track of time and last night checking in for the game late in the second half fans online are calling him Paul Pierce basically how does this happen although again we have theories from last week as well could be the same thing Lou what happens between yeah Chandler for half time what happens that you are late getting out there besides you know potty you go to the bathroom if you have to you're laying there you kind of coach comes in talks for 20 seconds to two minutes kind of stretching foam rolling and you get back out there with you know four or five six minutes on the clock and you shoot but yeah I think it's time for his agent to kind of get an endorsement deal here with Pepto or the modium because clearly he's a real stomach issue for this to be happening twice there's nothing else just could be like we talked about earlier he's got his he's got his trainer he's got his security or whatever it is that's with him he sees the clock in every room in the locker room you know back in the locker room so it's to me and Lou I don't know unless there's something else this is just the stomach issue where he needs to figure it out his ass got to take a poop that's it that's the that's the gist of it there are little people who get paid to make sure where you're supposed to be every single player has a small staff of people who are responsible for getting them prepared for games from the top to the bottom even post game you have a training session where you're going to get stretched or you're going to get extra shot so you're going to hit the weight room you until you leave that building there is at least two or three people responsible for you until you leave the arena so there's no such thing as losing track of time absolutely no such thing this is a bad through issue I don't know what my man eating obviously he eating good and he he got a lot of fiber in there he got to get it out of there so maybe he's start doubling down before games it's not like it's not like he's on the phone it's not like he's doing so it's not like it's clearly it's just you know it's about the poorly timed celebrities are just like us when I first started playing like you know the clock would start we'd get out there like nine eight minutes by the last year I played people are running out there with a minute on the clock taking one shot stretching and start the second half so the half time warm-up has gotten shorter and shorter fair that's fair all right we uh you mentioned it a little bit channeler that Rudy gobert went down with an injury in this one um gotta hate this time of year sometimes shams what's the latest on gobert yeah Rudy gobert got x-rays on his ribs I mean you could tell he tugged at it any time he has that and you know post game apparently he was having total breathing walking but I'm told x-rays were negative so the hope is that it's just a contusion just a bruise of the rib area but that that's still gonna be painful something that he's gonna have to deal with even if it is just bruised ribs sometimes I wish you could just start the playoffs in October uh let's move on Pacers thunder that's a good one Turner Halliburton big lead with thunder over 121 111 Miles Turner 24 4 and 4 blocks Halliburton with 18 12 and 4 Holmgren 15 13 and SGA with 30 10 and 5 back-to-back impressive wins for this Indiana team right now that over the magic over okc they're one and a half back of the Knicks for fourth place in the east and as we go down this final stretch do they have enough trailer to shock some people in the east oh which is ok sorry about that highlights what are you drinking Lou no don't ask OJ brother you know the vibes you've been in the studio with me you know what I got um listen again we've talked about this all season long the Pacers the way they play the way they get up and down the way they shoot threes they're going to create mismatches they're going to be a tough matchup for whoever they draw on the playoff are they a contending team we are they going to beat the you know the the Bucks or the Celtics in the series I doubt it but I wouldn't be surprised if they advanced I wouldn't be surprised if they caught New York and even snuck home court advantage here so uh I think losing bandic this is a team that needs all hands on deck they have to be fully healthy they have to be clicking on all cylinders to have confidence but they are one of those teams with the style that they play not a lot of teams are comfortable doing that and even in the playoffs when it does slow down they have a stud point guard Hal Burton that can play pick and roll that can pick defenses apart whether it's in transition or in the half court so I think they're they're going to finish strong here I think they'll win a lot of games and put themselves in a position but it's all going to be about who they get matched up with because if it's not the Bucks or if it's not the Celtics I do think they have enough to pass the first round yeah I think they got enough to pass the first round I don't I don't know if they're a championship contender coming out of coming out of the east you know it's just when it comes down to matchups I think this team is still still very young still turning the corner got a lot of talent don't get me wrong um you know they're going to from from the young guys uh Naismith Nimbard they're going to give them looks you know we don't talk about Miles Turner enough with the the Siakam and Holla Burton combination you know they got a lot of good pieces but when you talk about the uh the Boston's of the world when you talk about the Knicks talk about Cleveland um and and obviously you're going to talk about Milwaukee as well I don't really see them going through those levels of teams to get out of the uh to get out of the conference and so I think they're I think they're built for the future not right now built for the future all right another team that's been building for the future Thunder 26 and 7 overall at home believe it or not this was their first home loss since January 29th they are a young team channeler I would imagine home court advantages lovely for everyone but is it more important for a team this young with basically no experience in the playoffs 1000 percent and they're going to get home court advantage and they've proved they've proved how good they are at home and the playoffs coaches would always tell us it's a different monster it's a different game the intensity of the atmosphere and that's true I remember the playoffs series was actually at Oklahoma City when I was Houston with the you know Russ and Katie it's I was nervous as hell it's completely different it is physical every play matters guys aren't taking plays off coaches are more intense during time everything just intensifies in the playoffs and when you're looking at a team right now they are extremely young they have minimum to none uh you know playoff experience and it's huge for them to have that home court to be more comfortable to not have to go on the road you know to what we're gonna facing a Philly Indiana whoever a team like that so I mean on the west coast probably Dallas or even the Lakers whoever it's going to be but it's really important because for the first time they got to get their feet wet man it is a completely different ball game and I think that their talent will overcome that and they'll settle in but it's it's it's going to be a shock to them at first just the the atmosphere is completely different and it's so much fun going to be a blast shams we gotta get some scoops from you oh man so Saturday night was the shingoon injury he went down that was a big one um do you have any the latest news on what's going on with him sangoon season is essentially over I'm told he has a grade 3 ankle sprain that was the official diagnosis from what I'm told he also had a knee bone bruise but that's not as severe that's not going to take as long as the grade 3 ankle sprain that's going to be several weeks obviously there's about four and a half weeks left before the end of the regular season for the Rockets thankfully for sangoon in the Rockets there's no surgery there's no major knee injury that he had it's really just that ankle sprain but grade 3 is essentially ligament damage in the ankle um and he's going to have to rehab this four and a half games out of a playing tournament spot breakout season for sangoon though this year 63 games overall 21 points a night 90 rebounds five assists obviously he's broken out as a star player in this league and when you look into the summertime he's going to be eligible for a five year 225 million dollar max contract he's obviously become the cornerstone of the Rockets I think he's it's when I talk to people on Lee he's put himself in that category as a max caliber player dang yeah people very aware of his presence these days also 15 players 15 players have scored 50 or more points this season so far shams are scoring very high teams are unless they're playing the nicks um what's the latest on the way people feel about this kind of scoring in the game right now until the NBA's competition committee which comprises of league executives team executives team officials team owners players the NBA the NBA players union they all met on Tuesday and they discussed ways to incorporate more defensive freedom evaluating how to potentially allow more physicality the merits of that and much more and using the next few months in the off season to strategize how to implement potential you know changes and allowing more defensive freedom into next season obviously we know like you said Michelle this season 114.9 points per game that's the most ever since the 1960s 115.6 offensive rating that's the most of of all time 12.83 pointers made per every NBA game that's the most ever we know the offensive stats were the highest ever in the all-star game almost 400 points scored um so I think this is something that the league is discussing and a lot of it is because players and all these different stakeholders are bringing it up in these calls like the competition competition committee call yesterday kind of crazy to try to find that balance guys I don't know what it is Chandler I mean the Knicks are obviously doing something a little bit differently than everyone else but what do you think I mean is there is there something that can be changed do we want it to be changed I think whatever they change it to whatever the foul called is going to be different I think players are so talented now these days that they're going to find a way to get around it I mean whatever have they changed the hand checking if they change whatever schemes and coverages they change you know SGA Anthony Edwards these guys are so good offensively they're going to figure it out they're still going to play at a high pace they're still going to shoot 35 foot 3 pointer so to me I think it's a good problem to have I think it's much more fun seeing these explosive games than watching you know the Knicks hold three teams under 80 points and guys shooting a bunch of free throws and good you know slowing down the game I think it's a good problem to have but there does have to be some sort of balance where they're still you know right on the defensive end now a lot of times it's on the players they have they have to have that effort they have to have the energy on the offense defensive end just like they do on the offensive end this is going to be good alright shams love you mean it appreciate we say goodbye to you we say hello to Darius Miles when run it back returns we'll be back run it run it back the overall pick to the Clippers back in 2008 years in the league Darius Miles joins us now we were just all complaining about how getting old sucks but we don't have to talk about it now we can talk about happy things Darius your co-host Clinton Richardson was was on the show a few months ago he said that when you were in high school people started calling you baby KG I don't know how guys feel about being compared to other dudes contemporaries but that you could play anything on the court no worries did you like the comparisons yeah I loved it I loved it it gave me a little bit of fame they started at a Nike camp you know queuing on them they all from Chicago so I was skinny tall dark skin and they were just like man that's baby KG and the whole camp started calling me and after that that's what it was easy enough D Miles when you were in high school you also you were invited to Michael Jordan's camp and there's rumors that you guys played one-on-one was there was there any truth to that no I didn't plan one-on-one I played against him my first time playing you know everybody was kind of scared to go at him so I you know I stepped up to the plate I was only like going to be in 10th grade so I stepped up to the plate like I got him and he just like he just he hit every shot he took but I blocked the shot I blocked the shot one but after that game he switched teams and made me play with him for the rest of the week you know and that showed it made me confident that showed that he respected how hard I played and how competitive I was at high school against him man that's awesome and there's also stories how that is it true that he convinced you to not sign with and one and decide with Nike and jump man yeah we was going to Jordan camp every year since my sophomore year every summer and after my senior year we went to join Santa Barbara Jordan camp again and we was draped down and and one year because they sent us so much stuff and we was trying to get a Nike deal but Nike was kind of you know BS and so we draped the and one and when he looked at us he was like man well yeah I got that on and we was like we can't get a deal you know we want to be with Nike and he was like alright so our agent called us that next morning and people nothing or not doing they sent us boxes of boxes of Jordan store and my agent was like what did y'all do he was like nothing and he signed me and Q to Jordan and made Nike pay us oh that's perfect I love that we sent it to you and Q doing the Jordan commercial in 2002 you still you still get the packs you still get the boxes so I'm hearing that not as many as they used to be yeah what's your what's your favorite what's your favorite piece that you got back in the day oh the pattern leather you know that was my favorite one any cover pattern leather they were just always luxury and it just felt like upper class when you had some pattern leather on with the braids the black and white the black and reds it's just you know it's like they fit perfect cool grace changed the game you put the cool grace on anything you can hoop in them wear them to school whatever the cool grace is the worst they can't see okay coming out I mean you just mentioned the fact you're playing against MJ in 10th grade it's just not a high school what kind of pressure if any did you feel or were you so young that maybe that didn't even register yet for you it was a lot of pressure because the team that I got drafted to it was like a college team like we every other team was way older way more mature and back in that day a lot of a lot of organizations and a lot of players really didn't find the guys coming straight out of high school so you know it's like we had to prove ourselves a little bit more because we skipped the process of college like everybody else and you know when you going to a team and guys and been in college or guys and been in a league for a while they like man they ain't gonna let this high school guy come in and you know take spot so it was a lot of pressure every games you had to prove yourself you know to get your peers to get back from your peers did you ever even now think if you could do it all over again would you have changed anything would you have gone to college had you given that thought was there a college you would have gone to yeah I committed to St. John's before my senior I committed to St. John's but the coach my job is you know great man you know he could have been telling me anything but he was like man you know you know you shouldn't go to college but I wouldn't change nothing only time I missed college is when you know the guys had them college stories about the dorm room and all that other stuff but outside of that another process love the guys I can't leave with I would have been a higher draft pick after my sophomore and junior year I stayed all four years it was so much fun what? Lou says no hey D Miles we did the right thing forget that dorm we was in luxury Rich Carlson's at four seasons we good we had to get bread under the table it wasn't legal like it is now you know like it didn't really change with the Clippers we was working out at Southwest Junior College that's where our practice facility was we had to use a gym so it it really didn't feel like half way the league the Clippers weren't doing stuff like that back there listen when I got drafted by the Sixers we practice that a spot called PCOM it was like a medical college and we use the gym like we couldn't even come in and get extra shots or anything they like the gym is booked up for the rest of the day we had to go home and take a shower I understand that experience so when you came in with the clips your first your first game was against Carl Malone and John Stockton who was obviously the legendary pick-and-rollers how was that first game what was that experience like was you nervous? it was surreal I didn't know John Stockton was that big like you know you see him on TV he looked like a smaller guy but he was real tall and big and then Carl Malone arms so we kind of got into it with him and Pauline and all them and you know we couldn't back down and I just think back on I was like man he would have kicked my ass if I would have ran up on him because I was sticking bones but this arms was so big and he was so big to get around them and just the signs of the game we was way faster and quicker but they knew more than us and that's when I really really realized that this game is a whole another level you got to think it out too yeah D Miles during that same time on the clips you were playing in the same building as the Shaq and Kobe 3P team and I was wondering especially during those times was there any beef like was there jealousy was there even more of a rivalry like sharing that same arena nah we beat him every year we beat him in the regular season like once or twice Shaq was like a big brother when we got to LA like he he took us in like we was little you know invited us to his house invited us to different events Kobe was younger so every time we played Kobe was up for the challenge and you know they team was older so feeling Kobe used to always want to like demolish us but it really wasn't no beef or no problem or nothing like that I think we kind of grabbed our fan base from the grassroots and you know came on up from that they like the way we played and how hard we play it that was the uh the Shaq is a cop phase always great video and pictures from that era is it true he pulled you over he pulled me over before how'd that go yeah he made me late for practice pulled me over I guess they didn't have practice and he pulled me over and the rest was history from there I told me you gotta pay my fine he said I got you I went on to practice what a fun thing to be able to do to friends wait did you know it was him immediately by the way like could you tell I was looking down I was looking down in my glove compartment trying to grab all my proper paperwork and I looked up all the way you know he policed me real yeah he actually policed he told me stories about how he'll pull people over or um go to people's houses and they think they're getting punked or it's a prank because it's Shaq so they don't take it serious but he he actually he a real police that's all he legit legit he legit I wanted to know you played no no you're real 12 but I wanted to ask you man you play you only played two seasons with the clips why you think things ended so early so quick so I think it's just the organization just how they was how they was ran like we had we had all that talent but we had enough money to pay two superstars max money when nobody on the team making no money or nothing like that I just think the organization really wanted to look in or believed in they said to be a good organization so Darius after that year you're in Cleveland and that was before LeBron gets there and that whole year you're basically tanking to get the number one pick to get LeBron what was that process like just knowing the ownership is trying to lose games to get this you know this next project I never lost like that ever in my life I didn't didn't understand it completely I was going to LeBron games his games was way more packed than our games like everybody was going to his games so hoping that we didn't have a game on the day that they had a game because you know his games was live so going to this game this whole senior but I never been through that much losing like I think we won 16 games out of 82 I never felt nothing like that it was an experience for me but the next year the town changed when we got LeBron yeah it's crazy when we think about the year before a team becomes great we forget about what that felt like at the end of that season there was a local reporter that asked you guys about the possibility of LeBron coming to the Cavs, Carlos Buzard said that the Cavs had better guys on the team you know we're doing this, you said this we got the video, roll it I don't think you can really just bring a high school player in and really just think your team going to really turn around like that Hey be Darius, alright it's one of those hot takes gone cold is it weird to watch that now knowing how it all played out No, because they just play clips and they edit it if you really listen to everything that I said I was taking up for LeBron like they was trying to put all this pressure on them they was trying to do all this other stuff like I was with LeBron like a senior I used to go over this house I used to go to the games and all this stuff we had a relationship before he came to to the Cleveland so if you really look at the whole interview and everything they said you know I'm a country boy so I probably used a lot of wording that they might not have understood in a slang type way but in that statement if you listen to everything I said I was taking up for them because I was like man I ain't finna put pressure on my man like that to just turn something around like and if you know what team we was on we won 16 out of 82 it wasn't all happy go lucky I know everything wasn't fine and dandy so knowing what we went through last year you're not finna put no pressure on my man to come in and just turn this organization around and we was the worst team in the NBA like that like it's never been done like that before so you know when I see that clip it's all love you know this is that new day and never would they take something they try to run with it but you know actually I was really taking up for them last season started though did you know like immediately he was a generational talent and this was gonna be a long ride and did you see him still in 21 years still being as dominant as he is nah and I see in 21 years that he's been half 40,000 like that's crazy but I knew he was a generational talent I knew he was gonna be a good player by watching him in high school like just how advanced his game was and once he you put him on the court you take him off the court with high school guys and put him on the court with older guy didn't change like he just looked a little bit more faster he looked like he jumped a little bit more high but I knew it from training camp I knew it from the summertime we was all working out during the summertime playing together like he was something special and an organization like that they got them they didn't really know what to do with them like they had I started the point that year I started the point Ricky Davis was the two LeBron was the three Buzzer was the four Big Z was the five and I struggled at that point because I felt LeBron should have ran point because the way his game was it was like he played so smoothly and got everybody involved plus got buckets but you know I just think the organization really off the rip didn't know what they was doing though he probably would have made a difference this year if if they was prepared for him you had like a Don Nelson something that make you run up and down the court you know I'm saying run like we really wanted to run a team we was running like the Utah Jazz old offense Jaller Louis I thought Darius when you went to Portland then you had your career high you had 47 points that was coming off the bench was there extra juice there going against mellow you just get high how do you do that at 47 off the bench it was just one of them nights I had a good night before Lou might know something about that good night before in Denver and it was just one of them nights I just felt good it organically just happened and I was just on fire it still it was another team that was you know trying to rebuild find a place they didn't got rid of sheen we got rid of a lot of players to be a contender again but that night just felt good it really didn't matter whether it was mellow or anybody else I just it was just a good night for me. 47 off the bench all right we're in the final stretch here Darius are there any teams right now East West both that in your mind stand out as they will be in the finals they have a real shot you know I got a my guy Jason Taylor you know so you know I'm thinking those Celtics is really standing out for me to be in the finals I'm rooting for the Clippers on the west side to go that's about it the lose too the Kauai thing last night was a tough one I gotta ask you this because it'll settle the argument once and for all on this show guys whatever he says goes who do you have as rookie of the year whoa hmm I got I got a big win yeah I got a big win yes there's an argument because Chandler won't do it well listen dude his rookie year is insane it's unbelievable and I feel like we're literally talking about the rookie with similar stats on the worst team on the west with similar stats on the best team in the west it doesn't really matter when you vote for this stuff maybe an MVP it does for all star it does so now rookie of the year it doesn't it's an individual award you know yeah I think Wimby is man it's just crazy like what he's capable of doing and like I say this is just his fill out year he can possibly win defense the player of the year and rookie of the year so it's my only problem though D my only issue is we pick and choose who gets to the privilege of saying it's an individual award like some guys are going to get judged based on wins and losses and then you have guys like a Wimby who's in dead last but the stats are so good it's like it's an individual award that's where my beef come in like if I'm chat and I'm averaging close to 18 points a game and I'm basically you know on a lot of given nights the second or third best player on that team it ain't like I'm just a shoe in or I'm just a throw in on that team and I've been flirting with being on a team from one to three spots all season like I would feel some way about that you're definitely right you should but we watched LeBron win the rookie of the year over Cormello and Cormello made the playoffs the first year and he led his team to the playoffs you know sometimes it happens case closed my favorite guest we've ever had on the show thank you for finalizing this argument once and for all and I appreciate the answer we appreciate the time as well Darius thank you so much we will be right back we go yeah they lost to Houston but that doesn't mean we can't show you this go go gadget arms what do we think here this is like something I would do against my little nephew on like a nerf hoop yeah that's what it feels like like it doesn't feel like he's supposed to be on that floor with those guys right now it's like he doesn't even touch it with his other hand he doesn't even gather he did it looks like he's doing like a swoopy finger roll and the man dunks the ball from damn near outside the paint he barely has to jump like that's insanity to me I will say we're making like this like weird beef in the rookie of the year the dude is unbelievable I can't wait until he like 20 30 pounds this guy is gonna be insane I wonder how much he's put on like I know they said between when he got drafted and then he got oh he was playing tricks with us are you doing magic tricks what's going on he they said he put on 20 or 19 pounds but I didn't see it okay let's don't move so we can go on to the next story next defense yes they they are playing it they are playing it very very well first team in 12 years to hold opponents under 83 straight games and obviously it's a tibs coach team why wouldn't it be okay they got ogn and obi back last night and it was a completely different outcome than playing the Sixers over the weekend is this defense enough to do something Lou I mean is this I know we looked at the East and we got Boston moving on yada yada it's kind of special what they're doing no or is it just me being a homework some here right now it could be viewed as that I'm a tiptoe around this because I got a lot of love in New York and I don't want to have said that the next faithful but you know shit they hadn't scored a hundred points either in two out of three of those games and so if you're not going to be able to score the basketball it is a good thing for you to be able to hang your hat on being able to stop teams you know these this is one of those things where coaches tell you know on a nice day we're struggling on the offensive end we just got to get stops and give ourselves opportunity when the game the Knicks have been doing that you know I would like to see them put 115 120 on the on the board because they like to play a little fast with some tempo I think that's when Jalen Brunson is at his best when he's in that open court when he's able to chop defenses down before they're able to set up their defense they've been able to do this three straight games is something that they could be proud of but they also got to get the offensive game going again as well yeah I mean this three straight games I don't care who it's against it's it's it's impressive and you can chop it up to a bad shooting night here and there that's for one quarter or one half three straight games that's a pretty big sample size to keep under 80 points especially all we talk about all year long is how good guys are offensively how much talent there is so this is impressive and this is a classic tips defense where he's got this DNA he's culture is defensive and his practices and their stories how his shooter rounds you get your ankles taped like this dude does not play and it's paid off the last three games and they do have guys like Josh Hart and that that fit his system perfectly and now that they're getting OG back and they're they're winning these games without their offensive firepower without Julius Randall it's impressive and do they have enough I don't think so but me Lou always talking about the playoffs it slows down half court if they're locking in like this and they're taking out transition it's gonna make for a fun series whoever they play let me not that the wall still hold them under 80 I mean I think it's fun to launch that's what I wanted to ask you channeler I want to play ying the yang you know they've done this is impressive on a defensive end but one of those games 79 points 90 points is that that's not a concern for you come play out time either it is and because they have to score the basketball like you said to and again they have that that roster and that that team to kind of bog it down slow down to play physical and they've guys that play a lot of minutes that that just know their role so it is I think you can get by a few games and by the way their next game tomorrow night's at Portland so they might do it again for a fourth straight they might do it again they might do it again but I think again defense to me is 90 percent effort and it seems like they have this collection of players that at least are buying into that knowing their offensive you know game is maybe not as elite as the box or the Celtic so I think they're hanging their hat on this when they're setting records like this to that really gives them you know motivation and momentum to continue to do it and continue to lock up and they're gonna get healthier and healthier all right quick break come back a little more a run it back on a Wednesday oh how I've missed fit or brick let's get this bad boy started oh oh oh he's out for the rest of the season so we just we just get to keep seeing bits on bits on bricks look I'm looking at the three of us are we fashionistas today no but that's something that is something that looks like sorry this is not though this is not though it's camping what about one piece or the other piece maybe the top only it might be too much dope that's what it looks like the bottom of maybe it's too much dough this oh oh Russell Westbrook he is this from the because he went to the Oscars after party this is Oscar's after party this on brand though so like I already tripping with Russell because this is on brand this is who he is at this point yeah Russ has swag to pull this off now do whatever he wants I know you cold no it was an LA it was at the Oscars thing big time all right that's not Jeremy Grant get out of here font all right moving on to the next one are we moving on to the next one oh my god it's broken well good we'll talk about this oh that's Jeremy Grant that is Jeremy Grant he looks like he's cosplaying some sort of he looks like a he looks like a black pilgrim that's what I was gonna say that's what I was thinking a pilgrim thank you also why is he standing like a mannequin outside the store lucid up what is the store any where is okay that looks comfortable I would wear this obviously I like it he looks like he's he look like he on the yard getting big doing push-ups I like it okay that's not that's not what we're saying okay that's what I'm saying this is finally an outfit we like to holla burden there you go I will say this that coat is big that jacket's huge yeah are his shoulders that brolic or is there some there's a pad situation under there there's some styling going on are those leather very shiny PJ I like this this will over right here every single day every single day alright that's gonna do it for us we will be back manana enjoy your Wednesday