 week to serve the Lord. I'm Tom Hollis. I'm here with Anna Fry. This is Hope today and you know, Sunday there were just a few things going on. We're going to be talking about that in just a minute. We're so glad you joined us here on this Monday. Anna, tell us what's coming up. Yeah, well, so good to start the week off with you. We're glad that you're with us on Hope today. We have a fantastic guest coming up in just a few minutes, also want to mention that today's planned guest who we promoted in the newsletter, unfortunately, was not able to join us. So instead, we wanted to show you a conversation that we had with evangelist Joanna Co Herndon. She was visiting the area and so we talked to her a little about a little about what God put on her heart concerning revival, miracles, redigging the wells where dirt maybe has gotten over it and God wants to sweep off that dirt and rebuild that revival, that spark, that power and do miracles. Oh, I know that that's going to be a great conversation because I love that whole idea of kind of redigging those ancient wells and seeing God move again. Well, it is Monday and that means meaningful Monday. Well, there was this little tiny sporting contest yesterday known as the Super Bowl and I was going to give us her play by play breakdown in just a minute. But no, the Kansas City Chiefs won yesterday. I hope you watched it. But quarterback Patrick Mahomes gave God the glory after winning. What's it's his third Super Bowl, I think, saying that the Lord challenged his team as it faced adversity all season. The Chiefs won 25-22 and Mahomes won his third MVP award at just 28 years old. And he went on to say this, my Christian faith plays a role in everything I do. I mean, I always ask God to lead me in the right direction and let me be who I am for his name. Chiefs owner Clark Hunt also gave glory to God by saying, I want to thank the Lord for giving us this opportunity and we want to thank the Christian Post for this report. But Anna, you know, a lot of times people give people trouble athletes say, Oh, doesn't God care about the 49ers? Doesn't God care about the other team? Or why does he favor you? But it's more about that person's, you know, heart relationship with God. God is right here for us. It's not just a Sunday thing. God, we walk in our relationship with God. And I think it's important to remember that's why people are giving God the glory. Yeah, absolutely. And it's a beautiful thing, no matter what role a person is in, that they are giving God the glory. And, you know, as far as like Super Bowl talk goes, all right, I know there's a whole bunch of you out there who were like me and you did not watch the Super Bowl. Oh, I don't believe it. I can't believe the news did say that on average people eat 8000 calories at a Super Bowl party. So I think I just snuck right under that. That blooming onion. But let me tell you about what I was doing yesterday that was, in my opinion, my own Super Bowl. So I have this group of wonderful Bible study ladies that come into my home every week and we study God's word together. And it is an absolute miracle how God has built community, how he has built friendship and connection. And yesterday they pulled off the most beautiful surprise bridal shower for me. I was completely blown away. And so just from the details to the food displays to the love and the gifts, but the absolute most beautiful thing to me were the women who were there and the love that was poured out. I got to experience God's miracle of friendship, of community and love, and truly all the goodness that flows out of that gathering. Yeah, that's wonderful. What's that guy doing there, though? What's that guy doing? What's that guy doing at the bridal shower? Yeah, you got to see a picture of my man, that's Dennis, two weeks away from wedding day. So pretty soon I will be Anna Schmidt on the show. Yeah, that's great, Anna. So much goodness. Very exciting. Very exciting. Very wonderful things. We've got a lot of things going on this morning, including we're going to play this little game we call Stump the Host. We have not seen these questions, so we want you to join in and see if you can answer them. Anna and I will do our best. So here's the first one. How many books of the Bible are named after women? All right, there's Ruth and Esther. I think that's two. Yeah, I'll say two. Two. Esther, great stories. I hope you've read them. You should go read them today if you haven't. They're short books. All right, question number two. What did Jesus say you must do before taking this speck out of someone's eye? Punch him in the eye. No. Punch him in the eye. I don't think that was it. Come on, we know. Yeah, take the log out of your own eye. Take the log or the plank or beam, whatever translation out of your own eye. Boy, is that something that, I mean, one thing I love about this is Jesus was using humor. People say, oh, we don't see any humor. I mean, the whole idea of a two by four sticking out of your eye, you know, that was a humorous saying that he used there. So here's the last one. Who was the first high priest of Israel? Aaron, right? Under Moses, I would, I think it would. Right, it would have been Aaron. Yeah, that would go with Aaron. All right. Let's go. Take that, Patrick, my home. I know. Lord, for this moment. Yes. Well, listen, we are here having fun. We are rejoicing in the Lord, but we do know that there was a serious situation yesterday at Joel Osteen's Church, Lakewood Church in Houston. We are going to have our interview, have our time, our conversation. When we come back from that, we're going to pray about that situation, horrible situation. We want to pray about the people involved, and just for the, to bring God's love to that whole situation there. Yeah. So don't go anywhere. We have a packed program today. We've got to take a quick break though, but we'll be right back. Jesus' two greatest commandments are love God and love others. Learning how to love better is a lifelong journey. This month, with your best gift of cornerstone television, we'd like to send you Love Like That, five relationship secrets from Jesus by Dr. Les Parrot. Discover how to truly love those in your life with this revolutionary guide. Blending the latest research in psychology and sociology with biblical insights, Parrot shares five practices, being mindful, approachable, gracious, vulnerable, and empathetic to help you forge meaningful, fulfilling connections with others. Love Like That will revolutionize every relationship in your life. 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They brought them by ambulances, by buses, and they came by the thousand. So I grew up in the supernatural. Wow. So tell us, what was it like to be in that kind of a household where faith was so alive and active? Well, it was awesome. And I still believe in it today because he says, Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. So what he did 2,000 years ago, he's still doing today. And that's why we go out and minister to try to stir people back up to say, he still does it today, church. Yeah. He didn't stop doing what he did with Jack Co, with William Branham, with Smith Wigglesworth. He's still doing it today. It's getting church to have that faith again to receive the supernatural. Amen. So you and your husband, you were pastors, ministers, but now you're full-time evangelists traveling around. So the home that you grew up in, how has that impacted your life as an adult in this ministry that you're doing now? Well, because I did see the miracles, even though I was a little girl when my dad passed away, I was five. He passed away at an early age, but I still remember in the big tent revivals. And I would tell people if I sit with them, you wake me up when the healing line happens because I wanted to watch the people get healed. It was just so awesome to see them to go from a mangled twisted or even a very sick dying position and running all over that tent, because I'm sure the fire of the Holy Spirit hit them and they knew they were healed and they just ran everywhere. And of course, there's a little girl's like, yeah, let's run. Let's, you know, let's play. And so we even, I mean, it didn't stop even when we'd go to tent meetings. We did it at home as children. We prayed for each other, preached. And it's just something that became a part of life. It's not, you know, because Christ is alive in us. So I saw and I said, if he does it for them, he'll do it for me. And if he was using my father, he's going to use me, but it isn't just me. He'll use all of you. He told us lay hands on the sick cast out devils, cleanse the leopards, raise the dead, freely you receive, freely give. So really that's our job. Right. Amen. That is the truth. So there is a message that God's been putting on your heart about redigging ancient wells. Tell us a bit about that. Well, when I began to read in Genesis 26, where it talked about Isaac redugged the wells of his father. And I thought, what is this all about? And how that the Philistines put dirt on it and didn't want them to have that water. And I believe that's what's happened to the church today is the devil's putting dirt on that water of revivals from the past. And so I believe it's to come scoop off the lies, come scoop off that dirt so that we can taste what was and the new wells because Isaac didn't sit around and fight with people to say, no, that's my daddy's water. That's my daddy's well. He just said, I'm not going to fight with you. I'll just go dig my own well. And so that's what I do. I don't try to fight with religion because religion wants to fight. I just want the move of God. I want to see people healed. I want to see blind eyes open, the lame walk, the deaf hear. I want people to realize that Christ is alive in us, that when we receive the Holy Spirit, this is life. And when we received him, it wasn't just our tongues. Hickamoshah, hundah, hundah, hundah. No, it was that we have power and authority. Luke 91 says, I give you power and authority. So God says, if I do the possible, he'll do the impossible. That power and authority is an important message for the church. And you talk about this dirt that has come over the wells. And so in a very practical sense, how does somebody begin to sweep away that dirt so that they can drink deeply from the well? Well, I believe a lot of it is through the Word and through the Holy Spirit. I believe that people have forsaken going to churches much. A lot of that happened in COVID. And I believe that we need to be ministered to God intended for us to connect. And so the main thing, I try to use it, give you an example. My husband likes to grill outside. And so he gets the coals, you know, and then he gets that lighter fluid and puts on top. And those coals are all stacked on top of each other. And then he says, step back and gets the match and, you know, explodes. Well, God intends for us to connect, to be piled together with each other so he can pour his anointing over us so that when the fire of the Holy Spirit hits us, we explode. But what happened in 2020, our coals got separated. I noticed when my husband wanted the fire to go out, he would separate all those coals and the fire would go out. Well, that's really what the enemy did. He wanted us to lose faith and hope. So he began to put dirt, because that's another way to put out a fire. Throw dirt on top of a campfire. Throw dirt on top of, you know, if you're in the middle of a fire, throw the dirt on it. And I believe that's what the enemy has done. Plus, I found out my husband can't cook a steak with one coal. That's very true. What a powerful illustration, truly, of how we are living in a time where there's so much isolation and that people aren't coming back together the way that they used to and how when we come together, we sharpen each other, we encourage each other, we inspire each other's faith, and how God truly does work through the body of Christ when we unite, when we come together in that authentic, vulnerable, deep relationship with each other and with the Lord. So in the little bit of time that we have left, can you pray for that one out there who longs for the healing and the power of God in their lives to be able to have him be alive in them and truly live in his presence? I'll be happy to, because he came to give us life and life more abundantly. In John 10, 10, he said, the devil's out to steal, kill and destroy. So what you're suffering with is what the enemy wants to do. He's a bully and nobody likes a bully. In fact, if we knew somebody was bullying our kids, what would we do? We would get dressed. We would say, I'm going with you. Let's see what the bully's going to do today. Jesus says, I never leave you nor forsake you, but lo, I'm with you always. So we just come against that foul demon right now, that bully, and you take your hands off of God's people. We come against sickness, disease, cancer, arthritis, sugar diabetes, autoimmune disease, all these different things you're suffering with. Jesus already paid for it on Calvary. By his stripes you are, as Isaiah was looking ahead, said, are, but Peter looking back said, were, you're already healed. Jesus has your receipt of your sickness, disease, pain, depression, oppression, busted, disgusted, all these things you're going through. He has your receipt in his hand, and that receipt is paid in full. And everything has a name, but those names have to bow to the name of Jesus. So in the name of Jesus, loose and let them go, be healed by the authority of Jesus Christ in Jesus name. Amen. I love that. I mean, truly Jesus sees it as already done. He holds the final victory. Joanna, thank you so much for your heart, for sharing your story and being with us. Well, thank you for letting me be here. Hope to see y'all again. God bless you. Are you tired of just getting bills in your mailbox? Find inspiration instead by subscribing to the Cornerstone Television's Hope Today newsletter. Each month we'll deliver good news about what God is doing in our region and world through CTVN's ministry. We'll keep you in the know about our latest special programming, and our full program guide will keep you connected to all your favorites. You'll also find a new Dashing Dish recipe every month. 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A 57-year-old man got shot in the leg and a little five-year-old also got shot. And he is doing, while he's doing, he's in critical condition. So we need to pray about this. And it grieves me so much, Anna, that this kind of thing that we even have to report this and talk about this, it is an unfortunate epidemic in our society that we have to see in a place of worship. Someone bring a gun in and start shooting. Right. And sometimes I think this can bring up questions of where is God in all of this and why do bad things happen to good people. And it's important to remember that we live in a sin-soaked world, a fallen world where sin is, it dominates in so many ways the darkness, as you know, is fierce. And yet God in the midst of it all, that darkness will never ultimately be able to overcome the light of God. And there is no pain, no tragedy that God will waste whenever we come to Him, humble ourselves before Almighty God, cry out for His presence and for His help in time of trouble. That's right. So why don't you join with us right now as we're going to pray. I'm just going to pray into this situation and believe that God is going to bring something for His glory and our good out of this. So let's pray for those people down there in Houston. Father, we just want to bring to you the situation and the people involved at Lakewood Church, Lord. Father, we just ask, Lord, that you would rush into that situation by your spirit, Lord. Father, I believe you are not in this, the shooting at all, but you are in the response to the shooting, Father. And I pray, Lord God, for a miracle. I pray for a miracle for the little one that the child would get up and recover fully. I pray, Lord, for the man that was shot, that he would recover fully. I thank you for the people who responded quickly, the off-duty police officers, to take down the shooter, Lord. We don't know what was in our heart and mind, Lord. I pray that you have mercy on our soul, Lord. And I just pray, Father, that you would just be working in that church and in that church family and in the family of everyone affected. And Lord God, I pray, Father, that you will bring about the truth of God, the glory of God, and that that horrible situation will be brought to light and to your glory. And Lord, that you would work a miracle in these situations. We ask it in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. So continue to pray for that situation down there. Amen. Well, we want to continue to talk about the miracles because in every situation, you know, we're talking about the suffering that is happening with the people affected by the shooting. And no doubt we all face things where there is suffering, this long suffering where there is a walking through to get to where God wants to take us on the other side to that promised land that he has for us here on earth. And Tom, it's interesting talking about signs, wonders, miracles, the big acts of God where we see His hand move in a mighty way. I want to hear what your experiences are, your background with big moves of God. And then I kind of want to bring the other side of the moves that maybe might not seem so big, but ultimately are a miracle. Absolutely. In fact, we have a scripture for you. It's a Mark 16 versus 17 and 18. And it says this, and these signs will accompany those who believe in my name. They will cast out, well, they will drive out demons, they will speak in new tongues, they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well. I slipped into my King James version there. But the thing about this is God has always brought, when He brings a visitation upon His people, there's always like signs of wonders that seem to accompany that. We just heard about the Jack Co revivals and the great miracles that took place there. And it's amazing to me the consistency that we see as we look historically on when revivals happen and great turnings, the great awakenings and the great revivals, the Azusa Street outpouring and things. There seems to be a supernatural response. It's not always healing. Sometimes it's just there's always, when a revival happens, there's always a getting right with God part of it. It's not just about, oh, I'm going to get healed. I'm going to go on and live my life. However, no, God's showing up to say, I am the Lord of this situation. And He wants us to just get our lives because we have times where we slip, we drift. Each of us does. And we have to get our focus back on God. But God wants to visit us with all manner of good things, most of all, His relationship with us, closeness to God. What a powerful thing that is. I hope you've experienced more than Sunday morning, more than even your Bible time and your prayer time, a closeness, a walking with God. God's desire of that for each of us. Yeah, I was thinking about signs, wonders and miracles. I was thinking about my own experiences with that and how when my life fell out from under me six years ago and how I was doing all the things that I was taught to do as a Christian growing up in the church with praying, battling through prayer, being in the Word, being obedient. And I was asking God for a mighty move for a healing, for deliverance, for like an instant revival within my home. And yet I did not see Him work the way that I thought that He would work. And so it brought me into this place of a crisis of faith where I felt like almost disappointed that God wasn't working through the way I thought and wondering, is He who He really says He is? Are His promises still yes and amen for me? And then I read somewhere from a Bible teacher that oftentimes the miracle of God wants to be shown to us as we walk through that dark storm, through long suffering, how will we connect ourselves to God because what God wants to do in our hearts through that long suffering is truly the miracle in our lives as we come out the other side. So when we're just looking for other people to change or for God to fix the person that would just make everything better, God is like, no, your heart is what I want to refine, what I want to mature. I'm going to test your faith so that you shine like gold. So you are that bride ready for me, pure and lovely. So today, when you are going through that long suffering, yes, seek God for His miracles, for mighty moves of God to heal you and restore you, but don't only seek His hand and what He can do for you. Seek His presence. It says in God's word in the Psalms that, in His presence is fullness of joy. In His presence, in His presence is fullness of joy. So today, humble yourself before the King of Kings, Almighty God, who is a miracle working God. Let Him fill you with His supernatural peace, with His supernatural joy and His supernatural love for you. Thanks for being with us today on Hope Today. Have a good one.