 All right, I'm here with the trainer of Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant Charles Barkley Kimalajewan Tim Grover Look at that ring. What year is that? 2009 Laker championship ring he has not bad. He's showing me how to shoot better. Check out his book relentless thing you see Recreational basketball players doing wrong Not stretching they never cross half court They're out of shape How many guys have you seen in a pickup game where ten people are actually on the same side of the court, right? So just conditioning stuff. Yeah, I mean people. It's just like anything else. They want to play offense No one wants to play defense. They won't hustle back on defense yet when they get the ball. They're sprit. They're sprit now look I'm open What about conditioning? Do you have a favorite? A lot of people just condition to get tired and they think that they're doing something but the the recovery in between You're running and how you're doing it has a lot to do with how quickly and how good how well you're gonna get in shape so You know developing like squats on uneven Bons of balls or whatever was that kind of stuff you were pioneering way back way. Oh, yeah That's what he's right. Yeah, Pete. If you watch people playing basketball It's not in one plane, you know, they may jump off from a certain spot land somewhere else They're always hitting the floor they're getting they're getting pushed So it's just like okay if you only have them work on a grounded surface Then you're really not working all the aspects, you know When you get rebound when you jump you may get pushed So you want to be able to catch your balance have the ability for your ligaments and tendons to be trained and developed So they can take forces in uneven planes So what's the main trick for somebody? Increasing their vertical people either think that it's only the legs But you got to involve the whole body you think of it like an accordion accordion is connected when you take a Spring the farther you can pull it apart and when you let go of it the quicker it snaps together People forget that the muscles had they contract in different ways Not only do they shorten but they lengthen also So you have to be able to have a program design that teaches your muscles to snap shorten and lengthen with a lot of force But also do it with a lot of speed So you have to work different types of contractions when you're working out people have a tendency to only work The shortening of the muscle they don't have a tendency to work the lengthening of the muscle What's an example of a lengthening exercise a lengthening exercise in you know We talk about this in the book in the jumper tag if you were to sit down and just you would hold a lunge position So if you were to go down Okay, so if you would write and you would just a hole just to hold that position from anywhere from a minute to three minutes Oh, oh, right. So you just holding yeah now you know you would time-lapse 30 minutes later Have you been able to find you can pretty much increase anybody's vertical? Oh, yeah, and there's room for improvement for anybody and a how many people do you know in sports? Actually improve when they're 30, you know Kobe's not going to tone down his stuff for anybody right so flexibility stuff Most people flexibility in your in your in your sport what happens is a lot of people think if you're Overly flexible you'll be better at your particular sport You have to be flexible in the range of motion for your sport like being able to do The splits is not going to decrease your chances of getting injured because you never do this split motion You need to be flexible and be able to control that range of motion in whatever sports Yeah, it goes both ways the one thing Larry did not do and he he got this a little later in his career Larry did old-school basketball where his thing was I run and I play basketball to get in the shape Yes, he had never really he didn't lift he didn't lift and do all that other stuff because you know back then you thought about Basketball lift and all everyone if you lift make sure measure shot a shot off and so forth So do you think that messed him up? I mean he did not have long term it did because you know when his back went out when that happens It's too late. You just can't recover from it and that's what we try to teach all you got The only way you can if you have a proper program, you're not going to do a if you're a basketball player You can do MMA As part of your program, right? I can't be your main Yeah, I can't be your main thing if you're trying to be a cleaner or a top MMA person You're not going to do a basketball routine You can come in and shoot around and maybe that's round a little bit just to break up the monotony Yeah, but it can't it can't be thing when a lot of people get they start to Replace a set of add-on like you'll see people wherever the latest craze is they'll say okay. This is what I'm going to do You got a beautiful house here. Hey, but the bottom line is if the foundation, right? It's not built correctly. Yeah, doesn't matter what you have inside and what everybody wants to do now is They want to go to sexy right and what I always tell them is a sexy can cook So what do I need to do better on my shot? Just think about this when you shoot Okay, you want to try to put these two fingers and your thumb and elbow in the basket If you make a shot and the ball comes back to you That's a perfect shot if you can hit in the back of the rim You don't have to chase the ball as much it comes back to you when you're that good that you determine How you swish your shots gotten so much better. See it's from you. I guess I couldn't hire you away from Jordan