 I'm told that you're a bit of a perfectionist to the degree that at Ohio State You would send some cards for practice back with all kinds of red correction marks on them Can you tell me about that story and maybe other examples of your perfectionism? Yeah, I mean, I mean if you go and do something you might as well do it, right? Man, I want to be detailed. We ask these players to be detailed and everything they do I mean, that's the expectation across the board not only for our guys, but for the coaches All the way down so if you're gonna do anything better better do it how you want it and Live up to that expectation of what everything is how you do I gotta say how you do anything is how you do everything So it's kind of what I live by and I'm not gonna lose sight of all the little things Thank you. Yep Uh Teresa Shane, how has it been now calling the plays you had the session on the Friday at the stadium I saw you doing it Some today. Are you getting more comfortable with that and and how is that working through that whole process now that you got three weeks before the opener? Yeah, I mean Friday I called it at the stadium. Um, I Mean we had a plan going in though as a defensive staff kind of what we want to work on and with every play call There's obviously a bunch of situations that come up throughout the game who's in the game for them Mostly down in distance all that type stuff and I mean we go through it pretty thoroughly as a defensive staff Collaborate collaboratively With kind of what we're looking for what we want what we want run So I mean that's been good for me just in terms of that and then really a practice right now other than Other than Friday everything's pretty much been scripted. So we go through that raise myself the defensive staff It's the same kind of premise of what we want to see that day And really I'm just a rebate man in terms of getting into those guys right now I got you one request if you can tilt your camera down a little bit We're only getting half your face on the feed that we're doing John Glennon There we go Shane, I hope you just didn't answer this my my audio is not great I'm wondering on Friday How much of the the point howling that you did and sort of that unscripted session You know how that worked whether there was Mike Telling you to call it plays or whether that was you calling the plays or was there a mix of that? How did that work? Yeah, we I mean we went into that thing with a plan of what we wanted called and Like I mentioned just the personnel that we see who's in the game the different situations like we meet as a staff thoroughly About kind of what we want called in certain situations. So there's a plan played out or laid out for me And I called it on Friday Mike had to do all the situations just spotting the ball and everything else He had a bunch of other stuff to kind of handle and make that make sure that thing could operate But we had a plan in place and I was a man calling it into Rashon and in Jay on but at the same time like There's only so many calls for each situation, especially right now with what we're doing install wise Did you find I mean Did you enjoy the experience is that kind of a still a step forward for you in that regard and how do you think that you felt? Yeah, I enjoyed it. I mean I felt comfortable up there doing it You know before and practice at times and couple preseason games So I've had experience doing it, but I mean any time any time you take one or somewhat of a New role in a you know in that situation where I just been next to be in or doing a person No, whatever it might be like this is something something a little bit new for me But I mean I felt comfortable again. I got a There's a great defensive staff here in terms of our collaboration and our plan of what we're trying to get accomplished So going in there's great guys to kind of lean off of obviously Jim's done it on time, too So I mean just it was good. It was good Ever go far Shane, I'm curious does the role you guys envision for Vic Beasley make it any Easier or harder for him to make up the time he's missed and are we at sort of a critical point on the calendar with him yet? Yeah, I think as he gets back. It's just gonna be Do really how much you can handle, you know, like I think it'd be unfair of us to say here's the entire defense Go out there and execute it I mean, we got a kind of pick and choose where we're going to need them and where we need to emphasize Kind of his his progress in terms of learning early on They kind of see where it goes But yeah, I don't think it'd be fair to him to say hey here's everything we do like you've got to know it all And go execute. We're gonna have to kind of protect them and massage them into it a little bit Tron Yeah, getting back to the collaboration side of things how big is having a guy like like coach Haslett there and you know What does his experience like what value does that bring to you as a guy who's gonna be calling some place? Yeah, it's great. Just like um, I mean just like Dean last year those guys have seen it all I mean from all ends of the spectrum the good the bad They got different ways of doing pretty much everything She's just being able to bounce ideas off him All those different little things that come into it situational stuff that comes into play I Mean it's always good to have somebody you can turn to that's kind of experienced that way. It's better back Give some insight Jeff Shade on Vic. What are some things you can do with him now where you can make sure he's as up to speed as possible When he is ready to go physically and what are some things you've been doing with yeah I mean we've been meeting he's out of meetings We were not losing sight obviously the training room first and foremost to make sure he's getting getting where he needs to be He's been in all the meetings. We've had extra time with them just during special teams meetings. We steal that that time too So there's been some a lot of opportunities kind of go through that Put things up in some form or fashion create a Version of a walkthrough in our meeting room with him so to speak so I mean we're trying to be creative Or where you can actually see it and line up rather than just looking at a piece of paper, but I mean he's learning I feel like he's getting more comfortable with what we're asking these guys Terry chain How much prior experience that previous stops in your coaching career? Have you been involved in calling the plays and? In those stops, you know, what kind of things did you take away from maybe that you can apply here? Yeah, I mean it's always been involved obviously in the game-planning aspect in terms of what I said earlier Situations what called we like in certain situations against different different personnel groups all that I mean in terms of calling the plays I've done a little bit here and there in Kennesaw State same type of situation I'm Really just with with practices, scrimmages, some of that type of stuff going on there I think the main thing and we'll see where this thing goes like You know, I'm not that set and calling plays just so you guys know like it's it's a work in progress We're working through it me and Mike and everybody And I think I think the main thing is just being comfortable Yeah, we're getting a routine and just staying ahead of the game with it Paul Was watching Andre Walker yesterday who's mostly in two-point shame, but then he a Couple times went into four point I was wondering if you could talk through what you ask of the guys that jump to the line as outside linebackers From from two point to three point to four point what what do you ask of them? What do they get out of those three? Yeah, I think I mean there's a comfort level with a lot of these guys They've been in three-point Probably throughout their college career that we're coming in here and we're asking them to stand up You know a lot of things go into that it's comfort level with the defense It's what they're going to be asked to do on certain plays comes into play but ultimately Like if they want to get down a three-point is more comfortable to them and they're able to execute the defense like I'm not Opposed to it. It's more more or less a comfort level for those guys And then ultimately third down like it is what it is But per second down just what we asked those guys to do in certain situations I Mean it is they just got to make sure they have a good feel for being able to do their job and whatever they decide Really appreciate it. Yep Yeah, coach staying with Walker He seems to be the beneficiary of those snaps without Vic and Correa available for the majority of camp to this point Where have you seen him grow specifically? He said he's Approaching every day like he's still a rookie and he still has those moments Where are you seeing him grow? Yeah, I think For him, I think his understanding of defense has improved dramatically I think now it's more just a little nuances that he sees within every play a certain split a certain stance some of those things and Automatically for him, it's it's just the consistency with the technique He's a big strong kid and he's he's able to get away with some stuff that most guys aren't because he's got some water body strength and some stuff to him And it's just really him realizing what it could potentially be if he's more consistent with technique At the point of attack playing and play out, but yeah, I've been impressed with him overall I think he's done a good job Executing the defense He's getting valuable reps. Like you said, he's improving He's just got to keep going and be able to do it day in and day out keep going Keep finding one thing to get better at each day