 The- oh, well, ah, the crazy, the lovely brass ball is on this man. The first suggestion he has is just batshit and say to Dizzy like, well, whatever. Well, I heard that his plans for the sequel, his own sequel scripts, like, right, were a bit far out there. He was going to go into like the wills, which are like the gods of the Star Wars universe and stuff. Have you heard that? Those rumors? I heard there was some crazy stuff where he plays like, they go inside of bodies to shrink themselves down and talk with the metaphorians or something like that. What? I don't know. I know. What's that? What's that old movie where they shrink themselves down and go into the human body? It's incredible. Honey, I shrunk the metaphorians. I'm picturing little cells with like high pitched voices as well. And yet, and yet better than the sequels. We are the metaphorians. We speak for the Jedi. We teach you the ways of the force. We don't give it a shot. I know we would. Why do you say force like that? We do it for impact. See, it already sounds like a very interesting story, does it not? I'm intrigued. I want to know now. It can't be worse. Oh my goodness. But why? Why must you say this, Brinkman? Why? It can't be worse. Yes. Why do you hate? Why do you hate? No answer, see. Oh, it's so hard. I'm so afraid of you. Sorry. I'm pretty sure that's lagging big time, so I miss all that. I was just asking why you must hate on things. Leave Disney alone. They didn't, they didn't do nothing. Leave Disney alone. Disney didn't do nothing. When in reality, they did a lot of things. Not the funnest of things as well. Disappointing things. You know what? Hey chat saying hi. How are you chat? I was going to say, I can give you some questions that were left over for you. Let's get a few random ones. There's a couple of comments in the comments. I haven't slept much guys. Leave me a like. But just to answer those. No, my surgery is tomorrow. So this is my last big haram before I'm out of commission. So enjoy it. Yes. Let's make it a fun one. What a fun question to begin with. Check out this wonderful super chat that I save for you. Chad, for your next book, please get a real publishing house to get you an editor. No offence, but your story had all the ideas, but died in execution. Wow. Yes. It's a valid opinion. I disagree on certain levels because there are some like, you know, choices that I made absolutely on purpose. And some people didn't like it. Like, for instance, the more expository nature like mine is what is considered a hard fantasy where the reasons behind how everything works matters. And it's important to understand it and things. And so some people try to say, well, an editor would have thought like obviously would have cut those longer expositions and stuff. And at first, when I heard those the feedback, I was like, yeah, maybe right. But actually, since then I've hired like a really good editor to do a second edition of the book and we've recently completed it. And so I went through like several rounds of additional editing on the book because there were some like little things that even I was like, all right, I want to iron out those wrinkles and stuff. And went through beta readers all over again and stuff. And when it got back to those things, I kept them in because it's like, I like it. And there's a lot of people who really enjoyed the detail of the world building and stuff. And that's just that I decided, you know, this is the style of book I wanted to write for this one. And so there is that. But if other things are bothering people, well, yeah, there is a second edition that the editing is already completed. And in terms of like a proper publisher release, right? There's something in the works as well. So when I was talking to Brandon Sanderson, he actually suggested that I have my book a get it a print only publishing deal with one of the smaller presses. He did this with Emperor's Soul. And he recommended his own agent is like, that's a great idea. And I wanted to wait until the second edition was done. And now it is done. I've sent it to Brandon's agent. Joshua Bilms is a champion and he currently has the manuscript and is looking through it. So so yeah, there are some cool things happening on that front. That's nifty. Let's have a look here. Well, I guess this could be a follow up. Chad, any advice on marketing a book? Have a YouTube channel. I feel like you may have said that before. Yeah, I'm sure that helps. It really does help. Like that's one of the reasons I started YouTube, not the only reason, but having, you know, an audience. And I was very lucky with, well, not lucky, but I was very intentional with a subject kind of theme of my channel because basically meant anyone who was subscribed to my channel had a very good chance that like the themes, but also the genre of my novel and stuff, you know, fantasy sorts and everything. And so that meant basically my YouTube channel was not only it was a good marketing platform, but it was targeted marketing. It was targeting targeting an audience that was like perfectly, you know, it would be interested in my novel. So how much did you pay yourself to advertise? Nothing. Oh my God, you did it for free? Whoa, I haven't paid. There are small things I paid like IngramSpark. They do the print book. They give you the option of having your book featured in their catalog. And it's like $150 or something. It says, yeah, that sounds good. I paid for that. I haven't done any Amazon publishing everything because I mean, I get to advertise for myself and the value in that is tremendous because my current rates for how much, you know, I charge like other companies to advertise through. It's significant now because of the size of the channel. And I get that for free. And so the comparative value of the of the advertising I've been able to give to myself is over $100,000 now. So it's crazy, but I can do that free because of the YouTube channel. Shadow businessman right here. Oh, you know, I do something. He teaches more than one lesson in Shadow Verste. You're going to build one of them eventually a university called Shadow Verste. Well, that's what my YouTube channel is really. The end game. I love the decentralization of information, the freedom of information and stuff. And so I don't think I'd ever put myself, you know, behind a payroll. This is why I would never do a skill share course or anything like that. Because I love the fact that you can get information for free. And I just want to encourage that, you know. And so I wouldn't ever really make a exclusive kind of university thing or anything like that. I just put it out for free on YouTube. Well, why don't you do the prank invasion thing for $30 a month? I can teach you how to pay actresses to make videos with you. God, the amount of scams like that you can find on the Internet for the low low price of $59.99. I'll teach you how to be a complete fraud. This novel brought to you by Rain Shadow Legends. Yeah, the most ambitious RPG of time. Sorry. Yeah. I know it's been hilarious because I'll be, you know, of course I watch all the streams and the rain coming up everything and listening to it. Now I have my, I have my time. I can talk about raid. Oh, here we go. I turned him down. Like, oh, this man here. Yeah. I know how much they're paying sometimes too. So that's really quite. Yeah. And Mike War of Clans like mobile sponsors. War of Clans. Look, no shade on guys, you know, you advertise on them because I understand the whole YouTube. It depends. We mock. You can throw some shade. Jovially. Yeah. It depends. I just like that. I really just like the way that they try and they give you such a scripted thing and you just feel like, you know, you're lying when you do it and everything. And especially like some of I won't say which one specifically, but they purposely misrepresent, you know, like millions of people are playing it. It's like, what, what live active players? No, that's not happening. The most played games is like Fortnight and stuff. And they don't have a million concurrent players. You're talking about downloads, but no, they always want you to say millions of people are playing this game. It's like right now, this very second, including me, and you can play with right now during this video. And then they want you to play the game. I'm like, no, you look, if you want to pay me, you just recommend it. And I won't. I don't like saying it's good because I personally, personally for me, I hate mobile games. And so I'll say, all I'll say is that, look, there are a lot of, if I haven't, because I have done one Vikings War of Clans, but I didn't like it. And then I've turned them down since, right? And it's because I won't say it's great, but I will say, look, some people enjoy it. And and if these people enjoying it, there's a good, because my wife likes mobile games as a matter of fact. So I know. I like it. Yeah. What? A horse? What? What? You said someone, did you say something about horse? I don't think so. I don't know. Okay. I don't know. Yeah. But so some people like it and so if they're going to pay me just to let my viewers know that this game exists and there's a chance that might like it. That's that. You know, I was willing to do that. Then they want you to say, I play it and you can join me in the game and it's the best thing ever and all this stuff. Yeah. And don't, don't, don't forget to mention your favorite character as well. Yeah. The Orc Barbarian. Yeah. All of the interchangeable characters, all the women with their tea on the chess plates. Like it's just, I don't, when somebody is there like, oh, this is comparable to the greatest, to the biggest RPGs on console and PC. It's like, yeah, the Witcher three cyberpunk 2077 skyrim and Raid Shadow Legends. Hey, listen, Raid Shadow Legends is the citizen cane of mobile games. All right. Yeah. I just like the whole, there's that meme. And I swear this, this meme came out like six years ago where it was just like all the words that get into changed on the something of something. Like the two something's always, always change. And this just loads of selections. And I'm pretty sure Raid Shadow Legends is the next one. I can't wait for Raid Shadow Legends too. That's where it's really at. Yeah. Raid Shadow Legends is so good. How come there's not a Raid Shadow Legends too? And I guess the thing that's going to be called fighting daylight heroes. Yeah. I guess the thing that's just like frustrating is everybody now like acknowledges that, you know, and all the ads are like, we know you've heard of us. Like, so why are you doing this? Why are you injecting with this? Just give it up. You have to imagine that they've reached like critical mass in terms of, is there anybody who hasn't heard of it who is willing to do something with it now, you know? Well, I mean, the thing is that's lost me. We had the Victorian age, the classical age, the information age. And now it's the Raid Shadow Legends age. It's just a professional of our species. I think the best one I've seen, like the sponsorship I've seen for Raid Shadow Legends was the Internet Historian's one because he just takes the Nicky out of it. I like the one that Flash Skits does. I'm surprised they left it into it. Internet Historian's one go, honestly. I think it was Chase who was showing Rags and I, I can't remember, but the ad itself, I was like, if this was my mobile game, I'd be like, nah, you're making it seem like a fucking joke. Which I'm surprised they let him do it, you know? If I was ever to do another mobile sponsorship, I would want to do it something like that where I actually personally take the Nicky and I'm kind of nodding to my own audience. Guys, you know that I don't really like this game. I'm just doing it for the money. Raid Shadow Legends. I love this game. I'm playing it. It's a mobile game. I'm playing it. My favorite is it's a changeable archer lady with no like armor at all. Number 16. She's great. I love her so much. These characters are amazing, aren't they? I'm the best part. It's free. I'm playing a trillion hours. Seriously guys, help me. I need someone to get me on this game. I play it every day. Once we get some cyberware, I'm going to hook myself up to it and play it forever in my sleep. I can't wait for Raid Shadow Legends VR. Oh, God. There's probably some people out there. I can idle in the real world. I was just going to say to get a few more of these Double View Shadows. Shadow Legends VR is amazing. Do you agree with this? Objectively? Definitely not. I think he has a lot of issues. He's this big neck beard armchair expert. It's just, yeah. I don't know what people say. Honestly. Shadow, what techniques could be possible with dual wielding two swords that the blades pass through each other but are solid to any other substance? Interesting. Just means you get more versatility. This is why a dagger in the offhand became far more preferable historically because there was far less chance for the blades to hit and get tangled up in each other. When you've got two long weapons, that's much more likely and it limits your versatility. Just means you're going to have far more versatility like if you were using a dagger in your offhand. It wouldn't make you unstoppable, but it certainly would improve the techniques that you could employ. It's an interesting idea actually. How does Shad think Revenge of the Sith has the best dual? Crazy. Watch my fight scene autopsy. I'll give a very detailed answer in that video. There we go. Do you think that any from the OT hold up strongly? As in the fight scenes? Yeah, I rewatched Empire Strikes Back and there's some decent exchanges there actually. In fact, I've been saying I'm intending to do a fight scene autopsy on this for a while and I still am. There's just going to be a longer delay than I was expecting. But yeah, some of the exchanges in Empire actually really good and solid. The one in Return of the Jedi, that's when the techniques get a bit more oof. But they can be justified with the emotional brutality of the fight scene because it's just kind of given up and it's just hitting as hard as you can. And so there's a lot more telegraphing in that. But yeah, in terms of the exchanges in Empire, there's some really good ones. No telegraphing, quick, fast, good stances and things. Good stuff. Still hold up. And what about what about when he was finished last? Jerks! Jerks! Like, I'm definitely going to be doing one of the Rise of Scar because that is horrible. That one was really bad. If you had to pick one is the best. The best. It might be the first, if out of the Seagulls, it might be Force Awakens has the best one and that's still pretty bad. Sorry, because you can get away with they're mostly hacking at each other. It's just Kylo is sort of weird in that one. Yeah, but there are from memory, I think there's a couple of small exchanges that actually had a bit more technical complexity in them. And that was basically... I'm not sure if you all agree with me on this, Shad, but do you get the impression that in the Sequel trilogy, lightsabers seem to have doubled in weight? Holy crap! The amount of telegraphing and the most horrible blatant example of this is the Rise of Skywalker they are swinging these things around like they're 10 kilos. In the original movies they seem like really light weapons. They seem really light. In the prequels they seem really light too. Even in the OT they're pretty light because they're Darth Vader is using one hand in Empire Strikes Back and he's doing some really quick, subtle movements and exchanges with one hand movements. Not only does it show that they can be moved with speed but also that they are decently light. Oh sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say that the other thing with lightsabers is that you don't need power to do lethal force with a lightsaber. Just need a toucher basically. That's the thing, it makes sense that they're really light because all the weight is the handle. Well, canonically this has been said but it's contradicted by how they've been portrayed in the movies but I think people have shared with me that even George has said lightsabers themselves are actually decently heavy. The beam basically has no weight but they feel they have weight from a gyroscopic effect from the magnetic field they produce or something like that because even when Darth Vader and this is because it's a prop, when Darth Vader threw it in Return of the Jedi, the rotation is spinning around the beam portion but that's because it was a prop and so they've justified that in canon that they have a sense of weight in the energy portion. But with everything else that's shown in the movies that you can move these lightsabers really fast and then they try to explain that because you're using the force but then you have non-forced users pick up these lightsabers and move around just as fast like Finn in A Rise of Skywalker. No, I mean, Force Awakened. He has the force, yeah, he is now. But he didn't know how to use it, he didn't know how to pick things up. Ray didn't know that there was such a thing as forced mind-tricking people. Friggin' Mary Sue Friggy! They know all about mind control. I just love how people are like, yeah, that makes sense. It's like, do you think it makes sense to do something that you never even conceived of being something that you could do? It would be good if I could control this guy's mind right now. Holy shit! I just tried it, I don't know. I can't believe this. This is fucking amazing. I didn't know that I could just turn off the Millennium Falcon and flip it around so that you could do a wager-direct hit on a tight... I mean, she's got experience with ships, like she explicitly says she's never flown it before. Yeah, and also even if she has experience with ships, could you imagine in another movie or something like a World War II movie where the guy flies his plane? How is she better than anyone who's flown that thing before? Because she bypassed the compressor. What is it with the compressor? Because I didn't even came up in the whole crap scene with the last one! It was like, did you ever like the compressor? Can you guys finally fix the fucking compressor? You just keep screwing around with it. So I actually, I don't mind the fact that it's not consistent which is a big problem, but if they if all of the fights were like from the sequels where the lightsabers did apparently have some weight to them but they would like slice through anything they were, so there was a little bit of telegraphing involved but I probably might actually prefer that. It's easier for me to keep track of when I'm watching a fight and in a way it's like it looks it looks its own way when you're fighting with heavier stuff instead of you know the very very quick motions but I'm fine with lightsabers being heavy but you got to pick one. Are they lighter or are they heavy? Well being a heavy sword would get telegraphed a lot but a heavy lightsaber still wouldn't because its blade is super hot. It doesn't matter how fast you come at someone with it. What do you mean by heavy sword? This is a very triggering comment for me here. A sword that's heavy. I don't know what to say. Not heavy guys! Some are. The heaviest one Chad. The heaviest sword. Heavy swords are heavy by definition. Also heavy is relative Chad. You know what I mean. Chad I own one. I know. Yeah but the poorly made ones are competent swords that won't get overly in their right categories because of course a great sword is heavier in comparison to a long sword or an arming sword and stuff like that but for the size of a great sword they are remarkably light for the size because they're thin and then they probably balance and stuff like that and it's the poorly made ones that when you actually pick up you feel oh this is heavy like the proper sensation for a properly made sword when someone picks it up is like oh this is lighter than it looks that's what swords are. They are generally far wider than people perceive. What about clouds buster swords? So yeah I'm fine with lightsabers being like heavy swords. Yes but even still they wouldn't be telegraphed the way that someone like Ray does it where she like yells lifts it above her head and goes and I so much prefer fast well executed complex kind of maneuvers that we see in the prequel that takes planning and effort yeah and speed is a game changer in swordsmanship if you're faster than your opponent you have such an edge and so I feel like Ray would lose against an average knight like a really average knight who just gets tired in Rise of Skywalker she just gets tired in terms of the technical complexity in those fight scenes if they were still using a fight scene I am arrogant and confident enough to say that I reckon I could beat Ray with a regular sword against her using a lightsaber because I just wouldn't I wouldn't bind with her weapon because she telegraphs so much you just hold your stance let her swing at you and you see it a mile away and just move you sort out of the way you step back and then take adventure because they over swing all the time and so you just you just need to let them swing they over swing and then their side is way open and then you just slash them and it's like that bad I've already ran away with this in my head and it's like okay so you win they do what about rags and you got a lightsaber in your mouth and then as soon as the fight starts you drop it and pull out a pistol and shoot like I don't think she ever blocked because she only ever used the lightsaber to fight Kylo Ren it's so boring did we talk about this before that if you try to block a bullet with the lightsaber it would melt and splash the molten steam on your face and while we were watching Mandalorian I think Mahler and I we were talking about I had mentioned that you know if you were going to go around killing Jedi then if you had a blaster that shot three bolts at once you could kill Jedi with that without much of an issue and then Mahler brought up oh my god the super battle droids have try shots is that what it's for canonically to kill Jedi they have that wristgun that shoots three at once which you can't block with a lightsaber so I'm like oh my god it's all coming together I don't like rags I George do no the bad lad we're so sorry George come back I said the exact same thing in my problem of lightsabers video that it's showing that Jedi's can get overwhelmed with blaster fire they're technically not invulnerable which is why they should be using shields my goodness right and the fact that shields canonically exist in Star Wars both Dura Steel shields and energy shields that the Gungans use and so yeah you're absolutely right if you just you know like overwhelm them with enough shots three in like in one Shadow what do you mean shields don't work in atmosphere don't don't and the other thing right the best weapon for the Jedi based on their powers is actually blasters long range blasters they can use the force to increase their aim and so it's you can you imagine like death sniper Jedi there would be insane oh he was my xbox live friend back to 15 years ago death sniper Jedi you know he's a great guy there you go I like how this one says before you go Shad I think the fight choreography was bad because I could not follow any of it at all I don't even know what this is referring to you must be referring to the prequel I'm thinking is that like a follow-up based on how can I say that prequel fight scenes are good no I have no idea and I don't even know what episode that's from that could literally be from like 20 episodes ago from from all I remember like but I'm sorry yeah I'm sorry that we don't have the context for it could you tell Shad that in his fight scene autopsy he keeps referring to shots as scenes as a cinematographer it irks me love you guys I'm sorry I have to stand back you have been shamed I have been hey Shad what do you think of Corvo's folding sword from dishonored I haven't played it I need to see um I think the folding sword it's been a while since I've played it I think it's a sword that folds on like at the hilt generally where the blade connects with a handguard it like pivots in and out but let me double check let me actually google it alrighty generally folding swords have inherent issues because you need rigidity in your blade and if there is like a fold point that is also a focal point for stress and even if it like it's holding it at a point having a hinge there creates a much higher chance of it breaking this is like the disassembleable bull swords you know the ones that are made out of a separate part that you're like Highlander you guys seen the classic Highlander that guy he's got the sword that he like clips together out of parts that would that would break really easily I think I have a I think I have a gif of it that I can post for you to look at real quick also is your microphone at like top efficiency right now Shad you sound a little bit muffled that's all dude oh I don't know I can check is it sound issues not too much of an issue but if there's anything you could do to do anything with it alright I'm gonna check because I wonder if it's even picking up the mic audio so just chat amongst yourselves while I try and oh boy that sun sure is hot oh that's dis honored yeah Corvo's the protagonist of yeah the sword looks really cool wasn't it yeah one of the questions I've got saved it here is Satan what makes a good spider bat adaptation I like that you guys on the subject of swords are you familiar with a show called forged by fire I think of this sounds familiar yeah where they built swords and it's awesome it's a really cool show and there are a couple of YouTube channels doing that as well like and they build fictional swords I mean maybe yeah like they make the sword and then they do a bunch of tests like um how sharp it is try to cut through bones to see if it'll break yeah I think the one I used to watch was the man at arms and then it became like man at arms reforged I think right yeah they made some cool stuff a lot of it was very impractical because it was all from video games and movies where it was ridiculous but you know like dis honored sword I think they made the buster sword and it was like it's just so ridiculous this enormous sword that has this really thin small handle but it's like to pick it up but it's uh it whacked a wallop it packed a punch yeah people know what the show is and Chad has become static I understand can you hear me now is that better yeah we can hear you is it clearer I think sorry hard to tell you are alright before for me at least okay because if it's not this it'll be internet I apologize this is fine this is definitely clearer also yeah I guess I meant man at arms if I didn't say that I think I said something else but yes oh man at arms reforged yeah great stuff really like him we were just talking about Shadow B heard of a show called forged in fire oh yeah it is hard to get like a copy of that here in Australia and it was on one of the broadcasters here all the Australian free to air broadcasters suck by the way in case you're right the pickings are pretty slim it came on SBS for a short time there so I tried streaming it but holy crap the ads that they spam in that they have so many ads in their streaming thing I was like I can't deal with this I don't like because every single network here except for maybe ABC because ABC is non-commercial when it comes to trying to watch stuff on their platform that ads oh you need to sign up to Channel 9 to watch Channel 9 it's like no thanks I'd rather not yep say I gave up I was like nah I'm not putting on this crap do you want to watch forged in fire yeah that show was really cool like when I watched a couple episodes where they're like testing out swords and then they're walking through oh you know you made your sword it's too rounded at this part or it's flexing like they have a final challenge where they try and cut right through a giant pig carcass and you have like one guy whose sword just completely bends and wobbles around and then the other dude slices clean through and it's like that was a controversy I've heard because the judges they have experience in knife making and they have like a knife fighting expert and they know nothing about how to use swords properly and the one that flopped his edge alignment was basically hitting with the flat it's like when they do swords they really need a sword expert on there like get Matt Easton on there for heaven's sake seriously your sword expert's important because if you're going to be determining who wins or loses depending on how it cuts and you don't cut it correctly for one of them exactly there is a shot of the knife guy with like a claymore or something on a pig carcass and it's bending heaps and it's hitting with the flat and it's like because he's supposed to be the weapons expert he won't say that he stuffed up this cut it's like oh sorry the sword's bad it's like no it wasn't it's funny when it comes to the whole judge thing and how you can't question have you seen clips of the American master chef uh yeah not like not recently there's this guy called Joe who I guess feels like he needs to one after this guy called Joe motherfucker this guy Joe he just acts like kind of a complete douche like he asks someone to explain their dish and cuts them up he's like this is a master or raider it's like dude get fucked just fuck off he's such a twat nobody to pray and then he like grabs their food and throws it in the bit he's not even tasting it's like how do you know it's bad you just shoot me this bad based on how it looks oh is this master looker maybe there were maggots on it freaky you don't know I just hope he walks around he's like is this what we expected this late stage of the competition you know it's just like dude shut up shut up take your money and go home alright so I'm looking at the pictures rags posted about the disarmered blade thing and if it's basically a flick blade that that'll work I mean as long as the connection point is solid enough and the blade doesn't have segments in it so there's stress points that could work that seems right now I actually have a question about that you just said segments and stress points so you have a sword that has multiple like like a hypothetical and this is definitely not something that I've come up with because I want to do it in a story not at all definitely but my friend was talking to me about stuff and quickly patent it and it's like imagine a sword that is like a light saber but it's just a sword so it shoots out like it extends out with multiple segments I imagine that like a telescope yeah sorry it would need to be made out of some super futuristic or magical material no titanium would not be our whole structure because to telescope a blade the segments need to be so damn thin for it to be right you know flick out for the blades in between and because of that it's going to have no so if it's built out of contrivium then it will be fine yes then you're fine contrivium surprisingly is the perfect material for that kind of thing like that is the perfect material you hit it on the head oh well you know about swords of course that makes perfect sense that a sword segment isn't going to work properly Chad is Rise of Skywalker the pineapple on pizza of Star Wars not the sequel trilogy the sequel trilogy is the steaming turd on pizza of Star Wars but he's just calling it pineapple even though pineapple on pizza is an atrocity that doesn't even do the justice for how bad the sequel is I guess there's a follow up is like well Chad was this film the spaghetti bolognese you were looking for absolutely not absolutely not hi Chad I liked your book would you let JJ Abrams or Ryan Johnson make it a movie I'm joking don't let them knew the book if they offered you like a million to buy the story like if they paid me a lot of money and they didn't touch the script I think JJ can make something even then though wouldn't you be assuming they'd kill it in some way well this is the other this is the other side right is there are so many horror stories of authors getting their work adapted and they get these promises all these promises from the Hollywood producers stuff like that saying yes we're going to do this for you and they screw them over right up the rear end right after and we saw it happen with George Lucas they promised all this stuff with George Lucas and yeah we'll do your movie and everything we'll take care of your characters they totally took care of his characters oh I don't think I could trust any promises like like because I was gonna like if you had reassurances but reassurances aren't enough but if say hypothetically the reassurances were actually held honestly and true then I'll be willing but I just I could never trust like I'm not sure I could ever you know take those reassurances as valid because there are so many stories of Hollywood just screwing over the creators and they're saying if you once they have their rights then it's like now we can do what we want just depends on what the contract is doesn't know whether or not even even conjure like they hide things they find loopholes and stuff like I was really following closely the negotiations that awesome Scott Card was sharing about in this game and he had some really strong um uh like desires for how in this game was going to be adapted and they screwed him over basically still like ender was supposed to be like really young young even younger than what he was depicted they wanted they wanted to make ender like 19 years old like or or you know some like sexy kind of space tactician guy and awesome was always like children 66 oh go ahead no I was just saying and yeah he wanted him much younger even then what it ended up being and and they still they did younger than what they wanted but not as young as ender should have been for the context of the books I got I got two messages that call shout out in terms of law oh my god it's gonna say it's gonna say bring it on one minute bend over ready to receive it so this this one's a little lighter it's the uh the red color is because for lightsabers now you're saying you choose red you don't want it to be considered an evil color they said the red color is because of poorly made synthetic kyber crystals of the sith use and as for eons the Jedi held ileum sorry where saber crystals naturally come from that's why they are so I want to like I've heard multiple explanations of the red color and this is just one on the pile and I have no friggin idea what's true canon now yeah first off whoever sent that super chat is a fucking nerd we're not it's okay it's enough at all ignore the title of this stream we're the chads with the jocks you call me chat diversity mm-hmm I just don't know what the origin is now because even in the four no the night's the odd republic video games had their own explanation for where the red crystal comes from and as they you know in the in the caves where the crystals come from the red one grows in an egg and you have to kill an innocent life to get the egg before it's like I don't know absorbed in the animal growing and then I've also heard that you need to infuse it with the dark force or something like that I thought you said to like slit someone's throat and have them bleed all over a good lightsaber in terms of the younglings the blood of younglings turns into a lightsaber red um Star Wars is just prejudiced against the red color okay it's like if it's red it has to be evil it's like type casting it's like red's not evil red lightsabers being evil is toxic masculinity yes so this one's more of a blame one because I think you said that it's not such a big deal that Ahsoka is one of the voices at the end meaning she's dead because she was probably dead at that point anyway right well this person says Ahsoka was confirmed alive after the battle of Endor Shad her species lives up to 80 years force sensitive up to 200 she'd be in her 70s by the rise of Skywalker okay so battle of Endor she was alive what the hell was she doing I don't know she was fighting a star destroyer in some other place okay well I guess if she was still fighting something you know I would have assumed that just after the whole galaxy would have been a greater threat and that some people just didn't know about it some people didn't know she wasn't given an email I guess Ahsoka could she become a disillusioned with the Jedi because I heard that she wasn't a Jedi anymore at the um during the um yeah she has a line in Rebels where she says she's not a Jedi yeah but I feel like that's the kind of cause this is the issue with this series is it kind of likes to go into this gray area thing that not ever throw away the fact that the Jedi are the protagonists undoubtedly so every time someone says I'm not a Jedi the Jedi suck it's like nah nah you don't believe me you're splitting hairs here um but yeah that's the Jedi light your light Jedi that's all the ones I can find so far you're gonna have a whole bunch more the next time you come on from this stream more than likely um uh oh wait Shad a castle is still a good idea if you include anti aircraft weapons so just to be clear are they saying is your castle better with anti aircraft weapons or I guess yeah I Shad with the inclusion of anti aircraft guns make a castle worse I guess there's actually there is actually an interesting answer this because um the Germans during World War two made some crazy crazy like epic um anti aircraft fortresses right that you might be I mean technically their fortresses are not castles if you're going according to strict definition but castle becomes a fair least germ anyway and stuff but it is a very interesting kind of study to look at the evolution of the concept of static fortifications and fortresses and stuff like that and they have like massive anti aircraft kind of you know fixtures to them and uh they were they seem to have worked effectively enough um in terms of taking on aircraft from a fortified stronghold thing and so if you actually had to deal with aircraft as a a threat to your castle yeah adding an anti aircraft gun absolutely and it's been done kind of historically in World War two um oh and the end of this thing just ends with space cancer space cancer space cancer space cancer space cancer ah I don't know I don't think they like space cancer you could say none of that question for shad what would be the best elemental enchantment for a sword what do you mean by elements all right I guess the basic one fire water air earth I'm guessing like the classic element how they would work in a sword exactly I suppose fire would just you know slash someone earth earth is often linked with poison well that's what I mean like what then after you figure out what elements because I come fire included as part of the core elemental you know things always bugs me because technically fire is air isn't it ruined swords as well well it also depends on how it's adapted into the thing if it just doesn't make the blade really really hot or is it literally sheathed in fire that's just burning I like because I would have an intimidation factor it could technically quarter the wounds that you strike which might not be the burning around the wound would be painful as all hell for the person getting cut um but like air right if you're adapting air onto a blade in what way is there like a a flow of air that's a razor thin that creates a shearing force on top of the blade which increases cutting capacity and helps separate material because in that sense air would actually be a vicious enchantment to have on a sword in that sense and it might actually be far more devastating than the fire one so again it depends on how it's adapted is earth poison that's another question maybe the air one just makes it smell nice yeah but but technically fire is the result of you know oxygen and carbon it's technically if you actually want to pick at the elements of fire it's air and earth if you're going to include carbon as part of the earth things and so it's always bug me it's not a core element I like that that you have carbon you know what's the element carbon nitrogen yeah well it's funny right like this is the better way to handle fundamental elements in the setting because if I was ever doing a magic based system this is the one that I had written and I haven't you know written on one of my notes that I would resort to I wouldn't do earth fire with water I would do the states of matter solid, liquid, gas, heat and cold those are the core states that's what you do and then if you wanted to have create fire from these things it would actually be employing wind and heat technically and you bond them then to carbon or flammable material that's how it works scientifically well well sounds like fun um I suppose there are other questions I can find in my notes there will be more for next time like I said but shall we and apologies yeah I'll just say apologies to everyone in this stream who are doing super chats if they're directed towards me because I'm probably not going to be hanging around for the super chat portion I'm sorry I'm going to miss it and also I really appreciate all the comments in chat saying wishing me well for the surgery so say thanks guys I appreciate it absolutely so we will have you back the moment you're available as well there's always more to talk about probably bad lord season 2 as well that'll happen eventually I don't even know if they finished doing that yet because I know they started filming it we're getting close which brings us to the main event this is a weird eFap because there's not going to be a video to talk about at all actually it's just going to be discussionisms which we've done before but um oh actually there is one thing I wanted to show that's actually two things he's probably seen one of them before but the first one is a couple people in chat have said it they want you to see the um the lightsaber suit mad yeah asses him alright so my concern would be accidentally stabbing yourself no say you're running at full sprint right the lightsaber is coming out of the knees has a good chance that they might accidentally skewer you especially on like at the downward swing of your elbow right if you accidentally cross over partially over your leg or because they do get closer you know in the jogging and you're not used to having objects seen out so you need to train yourself to avoid you know the direction redirecting accidentally redirecting those lightsabers into any parts of your body that would be that would be very dangerous but if you got used to it well you know having like laser swords when you knee or elbow someone just increases your lethality a bit so there could be some I feel like falling down a series of steps or something you'd end up as a pile of flash or the pop of it slices you up well just think about all the things you can't do like this you sit down and you lean on your knee and you stab both your arm and your leg at the same time you turn them off to do that for you gosh how does he turn them off behind oh of course yeah this is so stupid somebody looked at this and they thought oh this is awesome and then the other image is someone I was made aware of recently I don't know if you saw it on twitter yet or not but it's the Shad oh yes I saw that this morning when someone came to me I was like that is glorious I love it I like the big balls there probably artistic but rarely shows outside of magic king of neck beards too humble to wear a crown I love the probably artistic have you seen the pommel on your sword it's a little dick I missed that it's glorious I love it I hope it gets spread amongst the internet discarded his bolly pillow after finding the moral compass that's what you got there the final evolution of neck beard I will take it I accept it and embrace it beautiful art it's glorious with those two done we're supposed to be talking about the Mandalorian how do we start this up I suppose should we explain the arc we went on it let's do the preamble yeah the preamble I'm kind of interested in hearing our individual ratings out of 10 for it and then just if you liked it or disliked it and then we can kind of oh man alright I'll go first I'll set the tone so there's lots that I like about it on a rather superficial level unfortunately I'm supposed to say like be consistent with how I break down stories this one suffers immensely is like we're looking very very low scoring higher than the Disney trilogy I think we'll go through it today and figure that out probably but I don't know like a 3 out of 10 for the season that's harsh man who's next well I'll go next right I really enjoyed it I mean I'll be the first one to admit that there is some baffling kind of choices in certain parts of the narrative and there are contradictions and inconsistencies and just weird things that are happening but I found for myself a lot to enjoy in it and so for me because there was so much I enjoyed and I did look at some of the more baffling weird things and I kind of found ways that they might be explained in the actual narrative itself in some circumstances and so for me I would be I would want to probably give it a 6 out of 10 if I was to just rate it the writing quality overall but the other more superficial things I really enjoyed in it like for instance just like the production values that we'll get into later that actually encourages me to up it to a 7 out of 10 if I was to rate it Alright Maybe I'll go next because I'm guessing right it's going to be the hardest of all I really just a bit of background so my big thing that I really like and want to see more of a space bounty hunter stories that's like my big thing that I like I feel like there's not nearly enough that you've got Metroid but that's kind of been on ice and then you had Pray 2 and then that got thrown away so like when this got I was really I really wanted to like it and I did right at the beginning and then it just began to deteriorate with each successive episode it just started getting worse and worse and then picked up a little bit and then went back down again I mean yeah like it's probably a 4 if I would have rank it while divorcing sort of the stuff that I like like the armour and the music I guess the music does contribute to it though I don't think you can divorce those elements though I think you should include those in your overall rating well wait wait wait if he just says I like the armour that's not really a strong argument but like music is a surprise the music is great the music is really good I probably shouldn't have said it like that so what I mean is the stuff that I guess I was already predisposed to liking the visuals and what I mean by that is I guess not just how technically well done it was but how much I personally like it so if I were to say it would probably be like a 4 if I had to give it a rating even though there were probably times when I was really enjoying it even though it didn't there were parts that I enjoyed even though I knew that they didn't make sense or were kind of stupid but yeah it's probably a 4 would your rating change if you were trying to rate it as a mercenary bounty hunter because you said you really enjoyed that aspect of it okay would your rating change if you were going to try and include your views or enjoyment of it as a lone mercenary bounty hunter kind of story my issue is that the big problem and this is something that will probably become apparent as we go through this series is that there were a lot of ways that they could have made this like a 9 out of 10 show if they just made if they kept the things that like they could have kept the same plot points but if they just like spent more time on each individual thing if this season was spread across two or three seasons like it could have been really really good does that mean moving on to rags yeah we'll get into it what's interesting is that I think this is the same with Mahler but we both watched them the first time together and the second time together so we'll probably line up fairly closely if I was going to rate it out of 10 with a 5 being completely average then I'd probably give it around a 3 at the most the things that I really like about it are for the most part the music a lot of the visual effects are good some of the sets and the props and stuff are really nice but ultimately that stuff is a lot more superficial than stuff like story and character and the you know nonsense has things progress as it does that we'll get into so I'll probably go with a 3 I won't be harshest to say a 2 but maybe the more and more we talk about it I might it could change either way but we'll see because I got my notes here that are opened up as we finished watching all the episodes this morning and it was just it was rough trying to keep up a lot of the times trying to get our notes together for all the stuff that we found wrong PSA, I'd appreciate it not saying you can't do it that includes the cast and the chat to refrain from ascribing motivation for as long as you can the obvious 2 choices are Mola, Fringian, Rags just don't like it because it's made by Disney and or, Chad only likes it because it's better than the sequel trilogy and he's not doing standards probably let's keep that aside for as long well, the thing is right it's worthwhile to note for everybody that Mola, Rags and I we liked it a lot for the first 2 episodes we've publicly said that we have publicly said before we were very much on its side we went to bat for it against other people we said episode 1 and 2 were really good, really solid I don't have that opinion anymore but I legitimately really thought that the show was good and I remember when Fringian Mola and myself watched it for the first time we were absolutely excited for more we were ready we were like, oh my god, is this gonna be good is this gonna be good by the time we got to episode 4 it's like, oh 4 is definitely the one, it's so bad but yeah, I guess we should start up with episode 1 or should we do some kind of I think we should, but out of interest and this I am interested just make a comparison here to the Witcher, have any of you guys seen the Witcher? No, I haven't seen it yet and I have heard everything from it's great, it's terrible and everything in between yeah because I have some more harsh views on the Witcher overall I found it enjoyable enough to make me want to watch season 7 because I like Geralt and I have a whole review on my channel right but in comparison, and this is what I find interesting I actually think Mandalorian is better than the Witcher especially in terms of the writing because the Witcher like with the writing, the Witcher gets really messy, like really and people are loving the Witcher and so I just find that really interesting because yeah, that's why I wanted to ask if any of you guys like the Witcher because for me objectively, I think the Witcher is worse than Mandalorian well, Rags, we should watch that just to get abreast of the situation yeah, it's definitely been on our list of things to watch, but I'm totally down for checking out the Witcher uh oh yeah, I guess so if anybody's unclear on it, this episode, I don't know how long it'll take it's gonna be all about Mandalorian and then it's probably gonna be all Superchats it will try and square up as many as we can from the overflow and then the following week is going to be the episode where we look at all of the picture memes, we've got a couple of video ones the script that was coming out from Colin Travaro was it a quote from a Nazi or Movie Bob and there's a fourth thing oh yeah, I know right I hate everything conversation all of that is gonna be one episode next week I'm not even sure what guests will have for that it's gonna be weird as an episode but obviously we've swapped them around because it better fits Shad's schedule and I think it works out for the best we're fresh off the presses from watching Mandalorian so I suppose it's time everybody sorry indeed episode one is probably the strongest IMO I think that after watching them again I would say that episode one is the strongest with another contender being episode two episode two yeah episode one is still like decent to good or I guess should we just go through it yeah go episode by episode format for this we'll try and do chronological but I think it should be pretty free flow and throw in goods and bads I suppose there's no real need to say that we do them separately or something do we just start by lining up what are the good things that we're not gonna dispute the visuals the soundtrack cinematography we'll just say straight up those are really good yeah for the most part the visuals are really good it's very impressive looking a lot of money went into the production value in that aspect the ships the effects the aliens all that stuff the environments it looks really really good never had any issue with bad CGI that I'm aware of parts that I can think of are so minor it's not even really worth mentioning but they're very very technically impressive on that level I actually think it deserves more credit for how impressive the visuals were for it because like in terms of quality I'm not talking about scale but quality they were easily as good as film like the the individual ships and stuff and like I was watching the mudhorn fight scene again in episode 2 and it was flawless like the interaction of that thing in the mud and the physicality that you feel when he impacts the mantle like that was visually it looks really good it's unfortunate that what happens in that fight is absurd we'll get to that because over like I have never seen a TV series done so technically well and I loved it for that because I got to enjoy a longer form story in the quality of a movie and I personally feel it needs more credit for doing that because I've never seen anything as like again look at the Witcher the Witcher has some horrible CGI and that's a big budget huge Netflix release you saw Game of Thrones right parts yeah and the dragons were pretty darn good in Game of Thrones absolute credit they certainly cut back in certain fight scenes in battles with scale and budget constraints so like the ways that they depict in castles they're always using static painted backdrops for the castles in the first season and so that's why I think Mandalorian had none of that like when it shows you like the planets or the flying in or the overhead shots or the there was a smaller city town granted but when you're seeing it over overhead it was flawless like it was brilliant so I really liked it for that and so when we say that the visuals were good I think we know the visuals were brilliant um I mean do you remember an episode 8 when IG-11 fights those two stormtroopers that one is probably the only it's probably the only example of the CGI being bad but it's bad like it's very obvious the animation I'm pretty sure the stormtroopers outfits in that one scene as well are very plasticy looking and yeah they look very bad the rust looks like it was colored in yeah it definitely stood out as being very cheap but that was like the only instance there was one other one the robots in episode was a 5 when they go onto the ship to spring the guy from oh that's episode 6 well some of the robot guards that were CG were there was one shot that was oh well that's yeah but again this is like 5 hours of content and the other thing is like you see those mistakes and in actual fact you see one's done worse than that in full fledged feature and stuff and so the fact that it was still that quality so consistently really impressive visually it's from a production standpoint it's really well put together agreed but the writing yeah it's funny because I think an easy first topic considering the first shot and the first thing you hear in this whole show is the fobs let's talk about the fobs let's talk about the fobs fobs will haunt this show 8 episodes basically well see this is interesting I want to hear your takes because I've thought about the fobs a lot and because it's funny everyone has a bias and because I did enjoy the Mandalorian I have found myself being more forgiving or at least willing to go to a bit more effort to try and see if things were justified or not and I will admit when things are irredeemable and they're broken I will admit it especially if you really have to make up stuff to justify things that aren't even alluded to in the episodes but I actually found some things that explain the fobs a little bit so this will be an interesting topic alright who wants to take point on the fobs anybody is going to go for it so one of the things about fobs is that there's a lot of stuff that we don't know about them which isn't necessarily a problem but eventually it does get to a point where we start to wonder how does this work and at what point is it going to be explained to us so we know what the rules are for fobs one of the issues surrounding fobs though is they're a parent they tend to be forgotten as a thing they don't get made factions don't use them when they need to namely Imperials should we get to that though when we hit those episodes where they should be I was just touching on it lightly it's never mentioned how you can get rid of a fob tracker which struck me as very very odd especially if the story is there's a fob tracking baby Yoda for the whole season essentially but it's never in all the episodes of one we watched and rewatched never is it brought up the idea of how do we get rid of the fob tracker how do we elude it how do we stop it as if it's assumed there's no way to do it which causes an incredible amount of questions to be raised for the rest of Star Wars and how you can find people how these could be used in the story or abused for story purposes fobs are they're very they're strange in the way that they're used the fundamental question we need is what are they tracking specifically what are they tracking we don't know maybe they're tracking their life I don't know so I had all the same questions as you guys and I was actually starting to feel that fobs are starting to break a lot of elements because of these are like basically magic tracking devices that kind of breaks Star Wars why the heck wasn't why didn't Darth Vader use them to find the location of the rebel base and he had to interrogate and all that stuff and so yeah like what seems to be implied on the surface is that these things are broken and so I was I was really wondering and so it started with me just saying okay how would I if I was not trying to find clues in the episodes how on earth would I even explain how they work like DNA tracking that through hyperspace force that they're connected with force sensing people and stuff and so I was coming up empty but when I was rewatching episodes just I guess to bring up your point you know how do you get rid of a fob tracker it's not they did not do a good job if they and and I'm worried that this might be me picking up clues from what's shown and and then explaining it through what's implied and then it's going to be contradicted later on because this happens all the time in Star Wars like you know when people say we're trying to explain why Luke didn't use their the fighter to go help the rebels in force no last Jedi because and everyone just said well naturally the ship must be broken okay and that was the logical implication I was a satisfying explanation and then it was contradicted by the next bloody movie and I could be doing this I fully admit okay and I fully admit that it is not a explained explicitly when it should be because it implies these things but I think it's actually shown rather than explained with two key scenes the first scene is when Mando goes to the Imperial Guy and the Imperial Guy gives the information on baby Yoda and he says all I can give you is his age and the last known location but with that information you should have someone of your capability should be able to find it and then when baby Yoda is about to get sniped by the bounty hunter on the planet in episode four so when they go to the bounty hunter there I forget her name but she specifically says that they know his here meaning that seems to imply when I heard that I was like oh that's interesting they need to know the location before the FOB points at which implies that FOBs are restricted by range that you at least need to be on the planet for one to be able to find and then you need some type of marker to be able to scan for the individual what is that marker well I was wondering I was like okay what's the answer here and I was looking well in Star Wars they do have fairly advanced scanning when Luke is flying down to Dagobah in Empire Strikes Back he scares the planet like well there's no structures but there's heaps of lifeforms everywhere and so that's actually really advanced scanning that you can scan in entire planet lifeform things and if you have that capacity in just a small fighter it means that scanning technology can be fairly portable and so if you could scan in entire but you need to be in the range of the planet and if you can scan the entire planet for a lifeform that is specifically 50 years old that could give you a decent number of hits well when I say decent number like if the planet is not as highly populated well that would give you only like a certain number that you could then work through and then okay well if it's intrusive included or it needs to be amongst other lifeforms everything you kind of work through things to actually narrow down the areas in which it's pointing and then if the scanning could get so advanced that it could actually lock on to the species you're actually scanning for a specific species well then that kind of explains it it could actually explain that fobs need to be at least within a planetary range and that explains how the whole Mandalorians is like how he could actually try and lie low and escape the range of the fobs his intention was to go to a secluded planet that was completely off the radar of anyone and that it was unlikely that anyone would even go to the planet to check it out and so when I was like okay it might might actually explain what about that scene where he was getting attacked in space to fobs work in space as well or yeah if they're within range if they're fast enough and so we're not told what got the guy in the fight to attack Mando and they could have been refueling or any number of things and they could have gotten proximity and the fobs just go ding ding and we know that the fobs were sent out to most of the bounty hunters and stuff and the fact that they had so at first it was really hard for Mandalorian to find Yoda but once he found Yoda and he handed them in they did some type of test they obviously got his blood and so they would have species DNA and everything and we don't exactly know how scanners work in Star Wars but we can kind of assume that they had a lot more information to scan for once baby Yoda was handed in and so therefore the fobs might be able to work far more I guess accurately in pinpointing baby Yoda's location after they got more I guess biological information on him so what do you guys think that's what I was kind of noticing when I was because I mean that's a like a lot of I feel like there's a lot of that is harshly extrapolated it's going off because like it's going off what's implied and what's shown and what it really needed is someone to just simply say these are the rules limitation on distance basic biological information to be able to scan for it but it is kind of implied because the guy when he was giving Mando he says we know the last known location and then he gets some biological information so I would say that they should have no fobs at all I agree you should get rid of the fobs and just have it be that bounty hunters need to track people down properly I think it takes a lot out of the this is a little meta in some way but I think that having fobs that basically just points you to where the guy is you're supposed to go get both interesting but substantial part of what it is to be a bounty hunter yeah you don't need to be smart or clever you don't need to figure things out for that portion hang on because if all you if you don't know their location to even get the fob to start to clue in that's how fobs work though that's it but see it could take a lot of work to try and find where the planet is and then use the fob to scan in towards whatever biological information you could be going off for it to track I think there could still be a lot of difficulty in finding the planet and that is kind of implied that they were on the backwater planet for weeks even after the fight they actually say that these last few weeks he's been happy in everything talking about baby Yoda and it took several weeks for one bounty hunter amongst all thousands to have these things to finally find the planet where the fob might have given in the clue so I think fobs don't break the whole kind of difficulty of tracking people down if they have that limitation and I'm not saying they do it's just kind of implied I still think that is a huge part of it that takes a lot of the work away from it as well as if you have fobs and they work along those rules then if you have things like guilds here then that would significantly narrow down the amount of searching that a guild has to do because it's not one person trying to track down individual planet it's an entire guild that is using information because remember the guild has a vested interest in having their members find marks so if you have a guild then their ability to cover planets all over the galaxy very very quickly is significantly sped up so just to play devil's advocate then alright um I'm wondering that if you want to say fobs don't exist and that bounty hunters need a track right and stuff like that to be consistent they would need to use the scanning technology that's available in Star Wars that's already been implied Sure but then you can explain that in scenes in a show yeah I know and the scanning technology does seem to be pretty advanced and so the question is if you had someone species their age and you could scan a whole planet just for those two things let alone their name, height and other characteristics based on the scanning technology that's already present in Star Wars like they technically should be able to locate someone on a planet just by a scan pretty quickly just by the technology that already exists do we know they could scan individuals on that level from like space or a certain amount of distance well it's implied it's not explicit but you do get life forms right buildings so yeah that is a good question that is a good and it would help us our understanding if it was explained explicitly that the scanning could work but would you concede that you definitely could scan someone to that specific detail if not planetary but closer closer you get the stronger and more detailed scanning I would say I'd say it's reasonable that the closer you get the more accurate the scan would be but even if we're looking for details on a planetary level that still is I would be it's hard to say because we're really doing a lot of guesswork here well yeah I fully admit I'm extrapolating on things that are implied and this could all be contradicted by someone using a fob in season 2 that is like they're on one planet it's like oh the fob is telling me it's on another planet I'll be like well there we go you screwed it right but at the moment there's nothing there's nothing contradicting I guess this theory and the theory is based on specific things that are implied and how that fits quite well with how they're shown being employed at the moment which is why I'm not as dark with the fobs right now I would say the show very much also supports it almost explicitly at some points from viewing it that it's it's just tied to the person like that's just seems to be how it works that's obviously the concern all of us have we don't want that to be the case I know and it would have been so good that like all you need is one small scene when Mendo goes to the last stone location of baby Yoda and episode 1 he says alright well based on the age and we're not told if you had species information but it really is like and the species I'm only getting and all you would need is that age and species and if you could scan the whole planet you would know exactly where baby Yoda is and that needs to be seen as simple as that but it would have been even if he didn't have species to say well it's a very how many 15 year olds are on this planet yeah exactly but because the planet seems fairly sparse in terms of population exactly 50 like depending on how that's still gonna screw you over big time if you don't have a puck because what if you brought baby Yoda back and they were like nope it's a different 50 year old on that planet it's like oh but it seems like that could have been a possibility we'll see but if we run with the assumed theory or at least my assumed theory they give him the age they give him the last reported position of baby Yoda and then the fob which let's just pretend for a second it does lead directly to the person that means he can get to the planet the last reported area use the fob to get more closer and closer and then figure out where the 50 year old is if he can't naturally the fob will just lead him directly to him because Werner Hitzog says that you'll be able to make short work of it and it's like how would anyone be able to make short work of this if they have to search a planet for all 50 year olds also yeah like I agree the more that I think we don't know how many exact 50 year olds because that is an exact age for the amount of population that planet seemed to have had I'd say the likelihood you might get 10 out of all the population on that planet which already seemed to be pretty low and it would have been kind of cool if he did the scan and he got 10 hits and he goes ok now we need to work through it's going to be protected and it's going to be in some kind of security system what if one of those guys defending baby Yoda was a 50 year old Mando can't kill him well he could kill him and he'd have to bring the body back as well in case that guy is the bounty yeah that would have made an interesting kind of conflict wouldn't have had to work with the information he had and it's convenient I don't think I'm ready to accept the idea that you could even scan for people's ages yeah the more I think about it the more it just doesn't like that you're going to have to really give me something solid in the material to say you could scan for people's ages would that be really careful too 50 years and 300 days or 50 years and one day yeah how many years are different depending on what planet you're from I agree and the satisfying thing for me I would say you should technically only be able to determine the actual cellular age of someone's physical body with a sample myself I don't understand my problem with the fobs is it just seems like I don't even understand how the fob activates how do you have somebody there is one thing that simply isn't stated and this is one that is not supported by anything in the show so it's an absolute leak I fully admit that and when an audience when the audience needs to go to such extent to try and explain things it's a sign of bad writing even if this explains it it doesn't excuse the fact that it wasn't explained in the show and it's bad that I need to do this it's a sign of bad writing I fully admit this right but we're not told of any additional information the fob had on the scan all we are implied about the age but it could be that he had some of the DNA some of the species information that he could have scanned for I'm open to the idea that if you have DNA samples then it makes it easier to track somebody sure I think that we're all pretty much in agreement though that the way that they explain fobs and illustrate their use is extremely loose to where we don't really know what the rules are for them well I think the planetary proximity is actually shown explicitly enough I don't think it's shown explicitly at all well no that when the sniper goes to shoot baby Yoda their response was oh he had a fob he tracked him their response was they know he's here then they can track him meaning that is a direct implication they need to know the location before they can find it that's the word that has the direct implication there so I don't know am I to believe that the way that it works for a bounty hunter who has no idea where that guy is that they're just going to go to every individual planet to like just land there pull out a fob and be like oh I guess it's not here and then get off and then go to the next planet land and then get a fob one that could be a very valid way of doing it but if you're a smart bounty hunter you would then say what are the most likely locations they'd be hiding him the issue sorry that would have a very good narrative kind of detective elements to it still even with the presence of fobs my problem is I don't recall any point in the the show where they show us that fobs do not work in space we've only ever seen you know what I mean like so I've never this is the first time I've even thought about the idea that fobs only work on the planet because I never saw anything that said it's implied by what's her name the carol lady the bounty hunter it's implied in that scene specifically I don't know that you're right about that because you could read it in a different way which is when he's like who's he tracking the kid so that line alone is like oh of course they're tracking the kid and then the conclusion is oh well now they're going to know he's here because this guy came for him and he's dead which means there's going to be more on the way there's going to be obviously there's more they know he's here now the reason why I think that's wrong is because if they could all track just with the fob they would all know the location the moment Mando even landed there but it took weeks for this guy to find him and so it's not through the fob that they were able to know the location because it took so long for anyone to find him and so they found the location and that's why the reading is they know his here I just figured that was a mistake on their part that it took so long for people to turn up because alternatively are you telling me that bounty hunters are just planet jumping and hoping for the best I don't think that's a disingenuous explanation of what one of the core tasks the bounty hunter needs to do they need to find the planet that these bounties are hiding on and it wouldn't be a random thing if you're a smart bounty hunter you would say alright known associates last known location best places to hide we had known known associates on that well yeah but then remember how they talk about an episode one an episode one they mention oh you know it that's not even going to pay for my fuel so fuel is a concern I don't see that it's feasible like economically feasible for bounty hunters to just go to and to clarify what I assume yeah and I'd assume that the industry works by going bounty hunter this is the park as in this is what they look like this is probably you can get some information like how they are over this is the planet we know they're on or this is the last planet they were known to be on you can accept this job or you or you cannot this is completely up to you and the bounty hunter can take the risk or not the idea that it's like we've got a high value target that's somewhere in the galaxy galaxy yeah it's like go to planets and check hang on hang on I like surely though there would be cases where it's like that Mandalorian picked the planet specifically in the hopes that no one would find him and so there has to be conditions in which you can hide and not be found and that's the other Star Wars the issue was that when he said that I thought it was like wait hold on but the fobs like how can you hide from them exactly that's the implication of the fobs but it is I think it is answered if you just give the fobs a range limitation by you know planetary that means he could never ever move again because the more time passes the more planets get narrowed down which means even if they never find him on that planet for some crazy reason he can never go to another planet ever because the fobs will instantly activate well no no not necessarily because a couple of things one it would be crazy if he was never found but he was found and I think that's if the fobs work in this way this planet is very secluded but it's already shown that random people do happen there and fly off you know there's the car of people and there's other mercenary like people and so it's not out of the realms of possibility that even though it's secluded that one random bounty hunter who happened to have the fob landed on there to get a bite to eat or to refuel and suddenly the fob gives a ting and that was like several weeks after he landed and then of course you could jump from planet to planet to make you're more secluded because there's heaps of secluded you know backwater planets all throughout Star Wars and in fact moving from one to another would increase your chances of not being found because if one bounty hunter went to a planet scanned you weren't there and went to another and then you went to that planet after they scanned and already knocked it off their search things means you know moving around and that's a common thing in trying to lay things in most things we don't know how we don't know how they meet up in space that's not so we can't like it would be it's just ingenious for me to say well he was refueling ran into someone as to say that they just crossed each other when flying through space as likely as either one so therefore it's very unlikely that they would cross each other exactly exactly exactly and so if the fobs work astronomically low chance exactly so if the fobs work by proximity it makes perfect sense that you might run into someone massive especially in space exactly and so the chances that you'll get close enough to another ship is by an actual location that is a gathering point if it's a refueling station this is purely based on the extent of the proximity and if the proximity is very very big then that just makes it even worse but we're not told that this guy was tracking them through hyperspace they're just fighting in space and it's actually far more likely when you consider the scale of space that they came closer in proximity because of a joint place that they were flying by whether it was a fueling station or something like that it couldn't have happened while he was in hyperspace so I guess he was just flying around at normal speed and then the bouncy hunter found him and then they got to hang on were they fighting close to a planet? um yeah they're close to tataean tataean well there we go that's the gathering point there's a higher likelihood of coming in proximity to the other thing that seems like a problem why would mandalorian go to tataean of all places if fobs activated as soon as you land on that planet well hang on hang on tataean has always been established as a secluded backwater planet it's a place where a lot of criminals are no wait wait wait not calling you out but you just made an argument for how it makes sense that people would find mandalorian on the planet that was secluded as well tataean is one of the most commonly used watering holes from the implication we got technically when you say common in canon it's actually not common it's a secluded one but because it appears in styles so much because of nostalgia factor people assume it to be common but technically it shouldn't be tataean is a backwater planet whose references are we using at that point are you using third party in world to my understanding tataean is secluded backwater outer rim planet it's very very difficult to believe that a place like tataean wouldn't be checked by a bounty hunter he wouldn't have a bunch of bounty hunters especially with the houses hang on I would agree with you if tataean was known and regularly visited by bounty hunters but that's not a separate story he goes there for bounty guild work he finds out that luckily for him the bounty guild no longer operates there then this is a valid criticism because I would absolutely agree if bounty hunters are the ones who are most likely to have the fobs and then mandalorian specifically seeks out bounty hunters for work and to be therefore putting in proximity of the fobs that's a bloody stupid I completely agree I'm trying to play devil's advocate here but only when I feel it's justified when you point out something that is indefensible I'll fully agree I guess now I have a new problem is the way that it works now that if he goes to a planet and then lands there all the bounty hunters who are on that planet their fob is going to instantly activate and they're all going to converge on him is that how fobs work in this that any bounty that lands on any planet will I think chat wants us to acknowledge the huts yes I know job is down okay yeah good very good point I agree Jabba had bounty hunters regularly in his oh and I made a mistake by the way he doesn't necessarily come there for guild work he comes there for work it's unclear that he knew or didn't know that the guild no longer function I suppose that there's more than one guild of bounty hunters though well they refer to it as the guild so I don't know my other point to Fringy is that I think even I might have said taking for granted that all the bounty hunters would have the fobs but in reality there's only a couple hundreds sent out by that guild whatever on that planet and if you consider the many thousands of bounty hunters across the galaxy we could rightly assume wait hold on you could really assume that Mando could expect that only a very small percentage of the overall bounty hunters would have the fob to track the Yoda sorry I just had like a weird brain thing something in episode one Mandalorian gives back the fobs for each of the people that he got which implies that each individual fob is for each individual bounty that you're going for that's how it works that seems to be one fob for one bounty okay so right so does that mean then that so all of the bounty hunters when he went back in episode three all of them had fobs for that bounty that they were just holding that would have been reclassasting and that makes sense because that's the core point that the bounty is being sent out from and it's even implied he says how many fobs did you give out he's like everyone has but why would they keep them yeah that's another problem that doesn't matter anymore the bounty's over or yeah it's a good point and this is all still assuming by the way that it does lock onto them personally right because we kind of like that's what is implied by what's shown the two sort of defenses for the fobs right now is that they work at limited range and that they work based on data to do with your person rather than you personally sorry it could be this and you're right sorry I don't mean to cut you off more but it could be a fob can actually work it can only track one at a time but you can reprogram it to do another one and it could have stored into itself several different information to track multiple targets but you can only tell it to target one at a time and so it could be that the people had the baby Yoda fob the bounty's done I'll switch it over to my next target and the fob is you could have options on it again this is I'm looking into it pretty much but if I was to make a fob I would say alright track the most valuable target all the time and put that up to the top and if you made that a automatic feature baby Yoda was the most valuable bounty before it turned off okay it defaults to the next most valuable one and then now baby Yoda bounty is back on bang fob switches over to tracking the only individual one target at a time but it could do it automatically that's a logical enough thing why would Mando have like four different fobs why would he have four and then give him in you can track one at a time you can only hunt people one at a time just go to a planet switch it between the four you're right that would be a thing because you could just do it with one track one switch it over track another switch it over and use one at a time having multiple the idea that they have to be programmed specifically by certain people I'm pretty sure that Carl Weathers even says that he does something Mahler maybe can help me we did just watch it doesn't Carl Weathers doesn't he say that he has to program them or he's the one who passes them out or which episode remember I forget either way it's just a small thing honestly I think I agree with you it actually makes more sense that only the bounty leaderships can put a bounty on a fob because otherwise anyone could just pick up a fob put a bounty and say hey bounty hunter can you go kill someone I'm not really paying you chat is screwing up a lot here one of them said pucks and fobs are the same thing they're not the same thing pucks are the little discs that give you their face and the fobs are like the trackers yeah we assume pucks are they look like pucks and they have their face on them we know not unreasonable to assume they have other information on them but it's like or it's an identifier it's not a tracker it's more like you're a it's like a wanted toaster on the target and someone else said that you don't even know if the pucks or fobs track the target it's like a homing beacon that's what fobs basically like beats ladder when you get closer and that's how did the bounty hunters who were coming for them like yeah it tracks them like it does and he gives the fobs back as if I am done with these you take them so that they can be reprogrammed for different people reprogrammed for someone else also I just want to say this is all all of this is underneath the looming specter of the fact that never once in any of the eight episodes is it even mentioned how to get rid of a fob tracking you someone else yeah see I don't think you can I think the only way is to get out of the proximity and I think that's explained by Mandalorian's actions in going to a secluded planet just fly but they never wear off that's the thing fobs don't ever turn off so yeah so many things to address in chat this is getting weird so yeah somebody said that there was no baby yoda fob it's like what about an episode 3 where all of the bounty hunters could burst a baby yoda fob there was only a baby yoda fob there was no baby yoda puck that was the point he says no puck also Kirill said fobs track the implanted id chips every citizen has what are you talking about when was that established implanted chips what was that people are not going to be never heard that and why would baby yoda have one he said this whole discussion is redundant you can't just make shit up from other stuff yeah and people will take them out the first thing that you're going to do is you're going to take it out imagine the black market value for that you could totally pay surgeons to do that yeah and you can put them on other people and how and send them off and that's a whole other mess that we definitely don't want to get into but yeah people are going to do that I think season 2 will be able to either confirm or deny what the hell is going on with these fobs the funny thing is I just looked at the wikipedia page for it it is dry as a bone it's tracking tracking fobs with devices used by bounty hunters to track their quarries the bounty hunter would return the fobs after capturing their bounty as proof of capture in 9aby the bounty hunter's guild handed out tracking fobs to its hunters a bounty hunter simply known as the Mandalorian returned his fobs after capturing all of his quarries it's like thanks to that I think it could salvaged if they made some of these limitations that are at least shown and you could connect the dots but there's a big flaw that it's not explained and there are still problems that don't get me wrong like all the fobs turning on randomly and the fact that they all suddenly have it so there are still issues there it's just at the moment for me it can be explained and so that helps me at least okay I can watch it and not have the fobs stand out as this glaring problem is breaking a whole show I can keep watching and enjoying it and also we have the empire the empire is looking for baby Yoda the fact that the empire is not using fobs and tracking him down wherever he goes is something that they are going to have to address if they want to have good writing yeah I would agree considering everything we know it blows my mind that they didn't send a faction of stormtroopers to just go and get baby Yoda with the information they had okay so my thoughts on that is that except at the very end when there's a very large imperial presence the stormtroopers are hiding out in a bunker and they're trying to lay low and it seems like the empire factions are trying to avoid republican the new republic so how do you explain that finale it was about to say the end so get me wrong I said what are they doing in the finale it's like they're specifically trying to capture Yoda it's like wow you guys probably should have done this in the fucking pilot it would have been a good idea the most defensible thing you could say is that they couldn't be bothered they wouldn't want to use their resources but they got the money so yeah we'll throw out a bounty they have enough resources to start killing their own men willy-nilly oh my god so which is a port that I hated the other thing stormtroopers are notoriously incompetent I want to highlight by the way as James Moore has just pointed out if everyone had ID chips wouldn't Vader have found the rebels way easier I don't know about this the implant thing just drop it someone else said you can't take the chip out because you can't interact in normal society it's like what's this doing that is no there's no like system where you go to a bar and they scan your ID chip before you can buy anything you get the money and they give you a drink yeah it's credit people have chips as well yeah I don't know the fobs are causing loads of fundamental issues I love that this is the first thing we've talked about it's lost it like an hour I want to play I know going further is not justified in the plot but I'm down the rabbit hole and I like playing devil's advocate okay so what is yeah this is very much a there are potentially there might be explanations for things but that's basically also that's very wishful thinking considering we felt this way a lot over the past with a lot of different franchises like they'll explain it they don't well that's the exactly this could be so contradicted and everything I say is just shoved you know back in my foot and mouth kind of crap shoved back in my face in season 2 if they contradicted this stuff and so but at the moment all I'm saying is that there are ways to explain it and I shouldn't have to and it's bad writing that I need to even in the first place all right one of the reasons why I like to try and see okay is there a way to make the way it's like a writing exercise if I was going to make if I was writing this how would I justify it to make it you were writing season 2 how would you make it all make sense post exactly exactly and so one of the ways that you could explain is that a fob is potentially very dangerous technology that falls into the wrong hands if anyone gets it and could code anyone's basic information and track who they want to kill whoever they want and the guild seem to be they're accepted in society as I'm not even sure if they consider necessarily evil they seem to be these bounty hunters are good they help us deal with criminals and you know people skipping bail and all these things and so it could be that fobs have a very like there could be behind a massive code that only the bounty hunter guilds have the codes to be able to encode a fob to track someone and not even the empire has something like that or so it can't be abused in the wrong hands essentially as one way you could try and spin it I want to defend you as well chance someone said you're writing the script for them she has not saying this happened this is the truth he's saying it's an option and he's also acknowledged that they haven't explained it which is not a good thing which is bad writing isn't it? it's terrible you need to go to these extensions it's totally cool to explore options in terms of how it could make sense I'm okay with that but I do I will again reiterate it is an extreme weakness of the writing as well that it is not even suggested of how to get rid of them and if there's not a way to get rid of the tracking which I find very hard to believe then they should say you can't get rid of the fob it's you know we have to go through the people who did something I don't know I think that one is actually more explicitly implied by Mandalorian trying to get out of the range by going to a secluded planet I think that if you if it was impossible to escape the fobs and again this could like the options are his eye that are bloody idiot because the only way to if you can't break the fob tracking the only thing you can do is to get the bounty withdrawn which means you have to go to the source and fight them and so it's hard to be on belief that it's just trying to run away when you can't run away from these things that's the only that's one option and the other option is that you can get out of their range and that seems to be the more logically consistent one and I think that one is actually implied quite strongly in the show I think it's quite a strong indictment on the people who were around baby Yoda protecting it that they just stated a position that apparently the Empire knew about like you should probably have kept moving I guess I don't know we don't know what they were doing they didn't did they know that the Empire wanted them because technically this wasn't even just the Empire was a what one guy within the technically one guy people had come there before oh yeah when I say the Empire I'm mainly talking off kiddie in the first episode said other people had come and they all ended up dead I try to help them okay and yeah like I said I'm not necessarily referring to the Empire when I say the Empire it's just the bad guys in Mandalorian who are organizing the whole thing they kind of look like the Empire someone said pops and pucks trash writing no pucks make total sense pucks are a wanted poster I'm cool with them yeah their digital wanted posters their dossiers on who you're trying to find what they look like last on location maybe next of kin age stuff like that that makes a lot of sense and the fobs are only done depending on how they work well well could you say at least that it's implied quite strongly in the show that they work by range and proximity I'm not sure that it is strong I'm not sure that's the thing proximity yes it might be but what again like I said how big the proximity is is it's totally unknown I agree it's unknown it could be galaxy spanning it could be certain systems it could be a solar we don't even know so that the extremity of the proximity is not only a phrase you don't hear often but it is really important as a detail for yeah because it would it would not only influence how easily they would have found but it would have influenced the decisions that Manda would have made because i.e. if it was for a whole system it's like oh this causes problems if it's for a planet then maybe it could work but if it's for a system then yeah you're screwed there's no way that you can escape a fob and just to address the people in chat saying that I'm talking too much it's because I'm doing the defense okay and so in play and by the way we're all pretty good friends at this point people like stop interrupting each other it's like we're fine we're okay don't worry about us we're okay um let's put that in the the old cupboard close the door and lock it up well I was gonna say fobs will come up as we proceed so we will what we'll have to do is critique the criticism based on the two different assumptions about how the fobs work I suppose but I actually think it's not a bad idea that we started with fobs because there are a few aspects that kind of go through all of the episodes that aren't nest that are they are in specific places but across eight episodes yeah so maybe Mandalorian's armor should we talk about that before because I think sorry to interrupt but I think the main kind of run of our discussion here is going to be trying to pick apart all the things that we found wrong with it and I'm probably going to be playing devil's advocate because I'm the only one who is there are things that I'll criticize too don't get me wrong but I think before we do that then should we at least point out the things that we felt were good or enjoy we kind of did that already I have a list that I didn't give go for it well we talked about the production quality that I thought was really really good now in terms of the Mandalorians character I think there are a couple of ways you could look at it because he makes some dumb decisions okay I liked his character and I think I liked his character because we were talking about Mando I liked the concept and that concept was consistently represented of the lone bounty hunter mercenary doing his own thing I personally liked his reserved personality and the emotion that they were able to convey in dialogue body language even with the helmet on we don't see that often and it was refreshing for me to see and I appreciated and enjoyed it Master Chief kind of emoting and I was indeed towards him because he had a good heart ultimately he decided to save baby Yoda and things like that and he showed loyalty to friends and other stuff this part I I don't know just gush away you can object my positive points those will probably pop up as we go through each episode alrighty then so those will be addressed over the discussion of the episodes with points and stuff we have when I left we had brought up the armor had we discussed that well because you disappeared Chad wanted to sort of dive a little bit more into one of the things that he liked well several I have a bit of a list that I think that these are for me fairly strong positive elements that go in the show's favor and apply more broadly like because also something that I just really enjoyed one he was a good fighter he was talented but he was not like unbeatable actually really like that they showed him struggling on many different levels and failing at many points and I think there was a decent balance of them showing him competent but also being out beaten by other people who also competent he wasn't unstoppable and that made for a more engaging kind of protagonist and for me like it wasn't always the fact that he was always going to win because you know that has failed many times already his life had needed to be saved and that may again just added to the strength of his character of all to make me I like him I like overall as a character for for those for those things I'm just going to cut you off because somebody made a super chat and it directly acknowledges me and I think it's a bad point friggy if FOB's have system size range they're screwed and then he said there are 70 million worlds please grow a sense of scale alright so 70 million planets in a galaxy is a very very small number there are hundreds of billions of planets in our galaxy so that if that's what Star Wars has said is how many planets there are in a galaxy then Star Wars has a very narrow scale for how big galaxies are it has to be one way or the other I think the point was it's a very large scale in terms of the number of planets you would need to try and find for sure but the issue that is with Star Wars is that they've always kind of played a bit fast and loose with the nature of space anyway you know what I mean like there's always been some stuff planets show up consistently with a huge amount of them Tatooine is the best example Tatooine shows up all the time everyone's going back there but what I find interesting is that when they do go to a different planet it seems like the fed base still criticizes it like Jakku was like oh this is definitely not Tatooine guys or I mean technically there should be a lot of other desert planets and using the same one people criticise it when you use a different one because it's like it's wide guys come on for people saying it's just Tatooine but a different desert planet it's like well somebody's now said 70 million habitable worlds or something but that's still like how does Tatooine show up all the time then like 70 million inhabited planets really I wonder how many planets are in the outer rim or habitable planets are in the outer rim well I guess that's the thing right when we're talking about systems as well and this was something that came up in more of Captain Marvel video where like I think we made the point that are the solar system like if you define the boundaries of the solar system you could either say until Pluto or you could say to the full extent of the Oort cloud which is about three light years people got really testy over that yeah like depending on which one you interpret the whole idea of fobs will detect you depending on which star system you're in couldn't it just mean that if you're going at hyperspace and you're travelling sorry we shouldn't get caught up on the fobs again we'll just get back to keep going with what you liked about Mando specifically well yeah those are all the reasons why I like Mando Laureate and the thing for me if I could enjoy the main character I could generally enjoy a TV show overall and that's also what got me through the main character and so I thought I counted that as a strength to this TV show in terms of like making a good character for the things you were trying to achieve in the series I think Mando Laureate himself was done mostly well even if you were trying to judge it on objective scales of what makes a good character and then my standards would be what type of character do you want for the purposes of the series and I thought he did it quite well and not to say there isn't dumb things he does he absolutely does but yeah and also the fact that it was refreshing to see once again one of the callbacks to one of the classic staples of the lone hero kind of thing and I like that archetype that got enjoying it out of me as well the nature of the storytelling not to say there wasn't a lot of issues in terms of the logical justification actions like there's some big problems especially like I don't will get there but you know the the guy when they bunk it up and the guys like you have so many hours to give in so there's a lot of dumb things there but in terms of the nature of the storytelling overall it was simple and straightforward and the propositions of the problems of the episodes were very easily understandable you need to do this or this is in your way or that's it and bang and then everything revolved around that and I enjoyed the simplicity and clear nature of that style of storytelling especially coming out of the Witcher where every episode was so bloody convoluted you couldn't understand what was going on most of the time and so and I think the simple nature of these overarching plots went in the series strength that was a strength for the series especially for what it was the type of story that was again the lone gunslinger kind of hero so really good strength again improved my opinion of it I loved baby Yoda I thought baby Yoda was absolutely brilliant I hated baby Yoda healing but I very cute very enjoyable just on screen and even just the small things like I was watching it with my kids the other day and the scene where Mando is fighting the girl for the first time and they roll around and they shoot the guns at each other and then they just look at cuts to baby Yoda just sitting there slurping my kids busted out laughing like you wouldn't believe and it was a good example of subtle comedy we'll get to that scene we'll get there I was just going to say quickly as well this is criticism in chat that I find hilarious rags and mollus seem to be obsessed with applying real world Milky Way constraints to Star Wars that's the first half which by the way me and rags really it was more fringy talking about that Milky Way is larger than the Star Wars universe if we go by galaxies that doesn't even make sense well the thing is is what I'm seeing here and it's a bit of a problem of trying to reach into the extended universe because I don't recall ever in any of the movies where they said that there are 70 million inhabited planets in the galaxy and where they said how big the galaxy was so you really do not want to dive into scale when it comes to this because it's really just going to become a big problem and secondly they said all of their problems could be applied to Lord of the Rings what do you mean? I can't understand that I'm just like what? anyway I was going to say how much I in terms of Mandalorian as a character I hate him I never want to see another character like him I despise him I think he's borderline autistic with the decisions that he makes I cannot believe that a character who makes these consistently stupid decisions is alive after doing this job that long the amount of times that he shot the amount of times that he just has plot armor the amount of times that he does things that are just insanely brain dead his inability to use his equipment well just I cannot believe that he has been doing this job for this long and hasn't been killed a thousand times over okay sorry go it is extremely well we'll stop there because I'll get to the next part later on as we progress through the episode that'll be easier to illustrate it then but I do not like Mando at all as a character I am absolutely I don't ever want to see another Mandalorian character as a character so hang on I find that interesting because sorry you go for me I was just going to say I think I might sit in a nice little chair here which is why I figured I'd say I think my my view is that you got a lot of things with Mando that if you had spent more time developing it as in you extend the character development you could have had something really really good and I think the things you can latch onto are so we have a character who you know is a gruff hard and mercenary but then we he gets to the point where he you know baby Yoda makes him sort of maybe changes philosophy and even the idea even in episode 4 where you have on the whole idea of him potentially settling down these are all really good ideas but they're good ideas for later if you know what I mean I feel like you need a lot more time with gruff hard and Mando and then the progression for him with baby Yoda sort of softening his exterior and then you can start reaching into him developing more relationships I think that if they had taken it a bit slower it could have been really good but I think that it rushed it to the point where they wasted a lot of the potential that they had for a for that sort of bounty hunter character I don't dislike Mandalorian though I like him enough I just think he's a idiot yeah I think it's pretty tough to say he isn't an idiot based on all the things he does well we're gonna go to them one by one because I think some of his decisions are far more defensible than perhaps you're feeling also you sound a bit muffled again I don't know if anything's changed oh really? I don't know I could bring it closer what did you do last time that made it change was it complicated or no well I unplugged and plugged back in but I did change the sensitivity just recently and if that's made it worse I'll put it back in can you just for curiosity's sake do and unplug and plug it back in and see if it makes a difference I don't know what it is but you sound cleaner or you sounded cleaner before I'm okay to deal with it it's fine I was just curious if you could I can I can so continue talking I'll be back in a sec very well and also there is a just to be clear as Fringy said I have no idea with the I I have no problem with the idea that Mando befriends a bounty that he has some connection with based on his past I have no problem with that as a concept I have no problem with the concept of him finding a buddy or a partner I have no problem with any of this stuff in concept all the stuff is absolutely fine but when we look at all the stuff that he does as a character especially his plans tactically in combat how he executes missions and a lot of the other decisions that he makes we it is it leaves us baffled when we watch him and we try to find out how he rationalizes the things that he does I guess it's all the problem of he's meant to be a really accomplished talented bounty hunter best in the parsec yeah he doesn't make the decisions that you would expect him to make you know what I mean like it doesn't seem consistent if you are the most well known most famous bounty hunter in the parsec you are a Mandalorian you've trained for this your whole life you've trained to be a bounty hunter for all this long you have strict codes of honor this is what you do you are an elite bounty hunter it shocks me all the decisions that he makes in a lot of these episodes we're doing lots of generalization we need to get stuck into some references because I think the specifics are going to be the one that will either I guess lean me more to feel your views are justified or if I feel they can be more defensible because the thing for me like if a you know a decent amount to a portion of those decisions can be explained and they're not as blatantly stupid that could solve some of the issues but also it does seem a lot of your issues are with his actions which technically that is part of characterization but in terms of the character itself it's going to go down to like own personality and how the character has in regards to their motivations their goals and stuff like that and so overall I think the betrayal of his character in the sense of the subtle body language the ways I feel like his character as how the character is made and as to if he is dumb or not well that will be a good discussion well I guess I actually like because you're probably best suited to answer this question one of the things that we observed was when he gets into fights he really relies on his armor to save him there are many parts where he gets shot in the face and shot in the torso where it's like wow it's pretty lucky that you have this best guard you know like this steel armor because you'd be dead like does it make sense for somebody to fall back so heavily on their armor in fights no if I was to say but so there's there's a lot of caveats to this right because I did of course on Mandalorian's armor and I criticise it saying it's not covering enough okay and it's awfully convenient that every shot that seems to hit him is always landing on where the armor points are so I have legit criticised this as well alright but the response and it was interesting to hear a lot of people's responses about in terms of Audi armor he's technically wearing more armor than the standard soldier does in modern warfare but the standard soldier doesn't fight the way the Mandalorian does they take cover and it's like it's the last standard soldiers don't rely on their armor it's the last you know the exact it's the last point of defense just in case they're absolutely right and so yeah I would say that he is not his armor way too much if the armor covered most of his body and didn't have openings then he would be justified in leaving himself open as much as he does and just tanking it and then I would say yeah I would agree so when you look at the fights there are so many instances where it's like wow if that shot was a couple just a little bit lower or a little bit higher you'd just be dead just to clarify right he tanks well tanking it is fine with me because the best guy that he gets hit and he doesn't get hurt by 13 different blaster shots throughout the season 8 knives yeah we did a little tally this is obviously subject to like we might be off by one or two but I counted 13 blaster shots that he blocked with his armor 8 knives the pterodactyl and an explosion his armor saves him from dying from both of those that's a lot of impact and it's like what did he do before I agree completely but I guess for me this is why and it's not really doesn't redeem it by any measure but it lessens it for me as well and it's the fact that he is actually getting hit in some instances because if he didn't have the armor the only other option is for the hits to never land at all which is technically what we see in the old hours the original trilogy they're not wearing armor sorry everyone just misses unless a crit is convenient in a plot for someone to get injured and then it's only a shoulder hit in Leia in Return to the Jedi and for me I feel that is more indefensible than the Mandalorian actually getting hit so the fact that he is getting hit I feel is actually a little bit better than what we've seen in other styles I guess the problem is that when you look at a lot of the fights that he gets into it's like he puts himself in these very dangerous situations almost expecting that his armor is going to save him I remember in our episode 6 when he was fighting in the prison there was this instance where he was fighting some of the robots it's like dude you are like this is really dangerous I'm not sure why there's a lot of John Wick 2 3 moments there's just no way he shouldn't be shot there's all of these a lot of these fights that happen where you just are wondering why hasn't he been shot 100 times now I want to clarify people are saying it's good that he gets hit in the armor than not at all he gets hit not at all a lot too loads of shots missing that happens as well but the thing is if he wasn't wearing the armor the only other option is to have him never get hit which is exactly what they did in the original trilogy the whole meme of stormtroopers not having to aim is because of plot armor and it happens they can have him act in the show as if he knows he's vulnerable I agree completely I'm not saying this is purple but what is getting hit for me is at least better than what we have seen previously because in the original trilogy there are so many points where the heroes are standing right in front of people and they're never getting hit and this is in Empire and Return of the Jedi so the defense that they were purposely missing on the Death Star doesn't apply because it's consistent throughout all of Star Wars well his the only times the laser bolts are on part of it they're not able to defend themselves or it's a convenient the pot to get hit so this is just it's bad in other things too yeah I know I agree this isn't a good argument but for me it makes it at least a little bit better than it was before and I can still enjoy the original series with the horrible plot armor that's everywhere and to me the plot armor is actually technically a little bit lessened because of the armor he's wearing even though it's executed poorly I guess the thing is you said before something like if they didn't have him getting hit then it would be that he doesn't get hit but I guess my thing is I immediately think of okay well maybe we can do something with this where it's like how about we have an episode where he's still got his armor and you know he occasionally gets hit we dial it back a lot but then we have in one episode maybe it's later in the first season or sometime in the second season when we're in the trust arc or something we have him get shot like in the leg it's a really bad one like it's not a shoulder one where he brushes it off it's like he gets shot in the leg and he's in big trouble I want to stand up for the OT by the way the only time the Stormtroopers do really great in the opening of A New Hope and when they don't shoot Luke and Leia and Han and Chewie you do remember that they're supposed to be letting them think that they're escaping right yeah that's in the original in the original one right so the Stormtroopers well finished so a new hope Stormtroopers are actually pretty good from everything we understand about them Empire Strikes Back they're good in Hoth, they're terrible in Bespin and then Return of the Jedi everyone knows that it's ridiculous what happens in Return of the Jedi so what I'm trying to say is they nailed it in A New Hope they were 50-50 in Empire and then they fucking farted in Return of the Jedi and now they're taking that to the nth degree in the sequel trilogy and Mandalorian Mandalorian is arguably worse because they establish its canon that the Stormtroopers are stupid I love that I just really love that I thought that was great I hate it but we'll get to it when we get to episode 6 and 8 and also to address something that's in the chat someone said I blindly call him dumb I'm not blindly calling him dumb I've watched the show twice this is the thing a lot of people aren't going to take it seriously because we haven't been calling him stupid we haven't got the references out yet it's going to take a while chat it's a big one because we're still going on the things I like I just wanted to get back to my leg shot go for it the idea that you have an episode where he gets shot in the leg and it's a serious injury it's not a TV show he'll walk it off like he's in big trouble and then we spend maybe the next episode he's with what was the name of the lady bounty hunter that he's working with we can have her there yeah Karadun that's right so you have an episode where she's got to help nurse him back to health and help him get out of this location that's swarming with stormtroopers and the two have to work together you can find ways to make it to where he has his armor and sometimes protects him but you can still have him actually be vulnerable and get shot I don't really like the idea that either he gets hit with his plot armor or he doesn't get hit at all I agree completely it's still convenient and contrived but I have to also acknowledge that it seems to be just as convenient and contrived in the plot armor of the previous ones and I don't think it ruins a movie for me because I enjoyed the previous one that's one of the problems I agree it's still a problem absolutely so we'll get into the details later I do find that after what we see here is bullet proof or sorry not bullet proof blaster proof it is shocking that not everybody is wearing armor I agree completely inconsistency of the blasters and what they can penetrate bugs the hell out of me with Star Wars overall this is a problem that I've always had it has bugged me more and more as time goes on Mandalorian has made it worse but when we start to see bounty hunters who do this for a living private security things of that nature nobody has armor which is very strange considering that apparently a lot of stuff is blaster proof we see droids that are blaster proof we have the best car stuff and I'm not saying all armor has to be best car but it is clearly a well established thing that there is blaster proof stuff and not even that apparently nobody uses it to go on to your point even further there are random transportational platforms at hover that have blaster proof sightings on them that's how common blaster proof material is that you can make crappy hover platforms out of it and so the fact that no one is making armor or shields out of this material is bafflingly stupid and that applies to Star Wars as a whole like it's been a problem for a long time and by the way it might be too much for grunt soldiers or even poor bounty hunters apparently the fledgling new republic has the money to put it on their security droids that guard prisoners on ships I could put it on crappy hover platforms yeah this is like a lot of stuff is bullet proof like if you pulled the panels off of worthless carriages and slapped it on yourself with duct tape you would save your life like it's insane how prevalent it's very prevalent now I have body armor and if you do this for a living if you're a bounty hunter if this is your life if you're in dangerous places then you are shelling out the cash to cover your chest and your head yeah I agree completely massive pet pee for me and it's not expensive this crap is everywhere used on so many things what's the point of blasters then what's the point of guns in the real world then Mandalorian Episode 3 when he's surrounded by everyone he literally jumps onto a hover platform that has a metal siding that blocks everything okay even his disintegration rifle which is insanely powerful on the scales of destructibility of the weapons we see in Star Wars and I kind of like that it was so powerful it required a cartridge for each shot I like that kind of design element to it the AT-ST Walker blocked one of those shots on its flat armor like it was nothing and so the armor is really effective nothing and they even say that there is nothing on the planet that can take out the legs of that AT-ST and I'm assuming that is including his ship which is like holy crap massive guns so I like when there's something like absolutely indefensible guys I'm all on board with it this is absolute well so how should we format this should we just go Episode 1 try and find the good and the bad I think so by episode well surely surely you can fit them in as we go I'll try I don't like the idea that we're taking so long we haven't even started talking about specific references and episodes yet we're going very slowly and slowly is fine with me but also I realise you don't have all day right Shad I'm going through my list I'm just looking for any if there's any comments that I need to state broadly that won't come up individually and I think I can bring up things individually as they come up I'll just have to interrupt and say more specifically yeah alright so I think we're good to go can I go to the toilet I'll be back damn it use a cup I'll be back in a sec guys and this is just a little bit of a retread I guess but my first point that I have for Episode 1 on my little sheet here my little park notes my little bullet points is in the very first scene we see Mando getting shot luckily in the armour not 3 inches to the right where it would have hit him in the like neck lucky I guess but yeah he got me started on the whole thing of he doesn't even react when the guy pulls out his blaster and points it at him he just like knows it's gonna hit him in the armour he doesn't even he's very confident yeah very confident that his terrible armour will save his life all the time and it does well yeah one of two things will happen they will miss him or they will hit him in the armour and that's one of the things that can happen but yeah in my note here I says how did Mando survive this long before he got his armour kind of insane how Mando is still alive and doing this stuff it just seems that as many times as he gets shot especially with when you tally up the amount of time that takes place in the show where he's actually in combat in the amount of times he gets shot it is insane that he hasn't been killed yet many many many times over there is I expect him to be very professional like professional bounty hunter in the way that he moves around and engages in combat David and Chas said people do win the lottery though people do win the lottery yes lucky things could happen yes yes and it is very very lucky all the time how he has like imagine you're playing a video game right and like I know some games have heat maps for where you shoot people I mean you get shot at enough times you're just gonna not hit someone's armour it's just insane especially if you get hit 13 times that quickly expand this over the course of his lifetime of work from when he started to you know the show taking place in quote unquote modern times I don't believe that he should be alive so the experience bounty hunter can't be confident what's okay so like imagine in the real world that you have Kevlar armour and you just decide to walk out in the middle of an open battlefield just shooting at people and they're like what pretty good at this so you know I can just kill everybody this is not he does not have armour covering his neck and his upper torso and his sides and his thighs and legs he is not like dressed up like a renaissance knight here all right he is not very heavily armoured like his head his chest his shoulders shoulders those are those are favorite places to shoot Mandalorian um but yeah uh definitely a problem that I have it really ruins my ability to believe he's alive up to this point I don't want to just progress too far without Shadow diversity here though like again armour in the real world especially with soldiers and there are parallels that can be done here you don't just walk out like if you have body armour like let's say that your chest and your head is covered with armour right you still have the gaps in between you still have your neck you still have your arms getting shot in the thigh is a big deal because of the blood vessels stuff like that you don't just walk out into the middle of oh I don't know say courtyard full of dozens and dozens and dozens of enemies who are all aware you're there and want to kill you you don't do that because you can't rely on your armour like let's say that the armour will stop 90% of shots that are made and hit you that's a 1 in 10 chance that you get hit whenever somebody shoots at you and when your life is at the line not taking those odds man I'm just like every action hero should be dead that's the entertainment we want to watch first off that's not a very good argument secondly like you can look at examples in movies and TV shows where the main character has to actually like make good decisions and that's the reason why they like John Wick 1 there's a lot of instances where he does really good manoeuvres that take him like you know a situation where he is in danger but he makes a really good decision you're absolutely right John Wick 1 had really good choreography to help him build a fire John Wick 2 was trash he was like in front of people shooting at him never getting hit and so he's got his Kevlar suit there's magical plot over I don't know if chat knows I guess just quickly before Shad finishes I love John Wick 1 I assume everyone here loves John Wick 1 we have I have serious problems with 2 and 3 and this is one of the main reasons why and so I think if we're going to be criticising Mandalorian for you know all the shots convenient landing of his armor we need to be consistent because plot armor is everywhere in Hollywood movies John Wick 2 is like one of the best examples and I honestly feel getting hit on armor and having it just be convenient that the armor is protecting him is a lot better than not getting hit at all and having plot armor and both still happen I can't acknowledge that but for me it's an improvement than what we've seen before so I was like alright let's improve it and let's keep the improvement do you know if it's an improvement for me like for other Star Wars I don't even know it's an improvement for me that they constantly get hit to like a crazy amount in the short amount of time they're actually in combat and it all hits their armor but not the unprotected parts I don't know if it's better or worse for me I have to think about it over time I just I don't know that I can see that he has both happened to do you know the amount of bullets that laser shots that are fired at him that don't get to him like it's significant and we're not even counting all the times where he should get shot in just episodes 1 to 3 no sorry it happens in episode 1, 2 and 3 but 2 they're stun shots so I'm gonna discount that 1 and 3 he gets surrounded by like 20 plus enemies that are all firing at him like no shots like obviously if they had hit his armor then it would be like oh well look at him obviously he should have and this is like I say I do agree with rags he should have been using the armor as a last resort and taking cover and it's there just in case that he was put he act like and you should only put yourself in a vulnerable position making it shot accidentally he should always be taking cover even with armor or the whole opposite his armor should be covering every inch of his body without any opening and then he could just tank everything because of that shot yeah it has to be specific like they need to make a big deal of it like this is really special armor this is an up armored variant of something else or we built this just for this one mission make a deal about it to say yeah it makes sense that he could go out there and reasonably expect to just tank hits also I'm not saying he never gets hurt I'm not saying he never gets hurt yeah so I said rags his complaint is that he doesn't try not to get shot yeah you should not you should try to not get shot yeah he behaves as if he can't be shot that's the kind of the problem there are some cases in the series where he does try yeah there are like in the first episode yeah in episode one like in the battle where he's fighting he does take cover yeah that's the thing that's why I like that battle more so yeah I prefer that too yeah I prefer that too yeah like armor and tanky cover yeah I agree yeah I like that so oh just the other thing about how did he survive when he didn't have armor I remember you making that comment was there a point when he didn't have armor because even the foundlings have at least the armor helmet and it's pretty easy to get juris still armor it's because the first two episodes he has he has some best guard but the other stuff is like normal I knew this would be a sensitive topic but holy shit chat there's loads of like assuming now that our point is he never takes cover it's like no no no one said this calm the fuck down like they're doing it in caps lock as well it's like chill out chill out I know it's Mandalorian I know everyone loves Mandalorian it's okay we're gonna get through this you guys are like real Nazis I saw like a lot of I don't want to sound like an asshole but like we have someone saying he takes cover in every episode lol he's like okay that doesn't address all the times where he doesn't exactly okay so let's try to think before we finish diving the savannah alright does he take hang on let's let's try and break does he take cover more often than not throughout the series he takes cover I would guess he takes cover more often than not probably I wasn't counting I mean yeah sure I mean like something that's 60% bad isn't as bad as something that's 70% bad sure yeah well obviously we're highlighting the flaws we're not like if the parts where he isn't doing that it's strange and you know like if you're wearing body armor in modern day obviously and shoulder pads that have basically his stuff but in modern times and someone pulls a gun on you it's just rare to just be like you'd be like oh fuck there's a gun yeah yeah but also one more additional point of the armor defense right is that I think he could be justified in saying screw it and just jumping out relying on his armor because when people are firing I don't know how much this applies in Star Wars but in the real world generally people always aim for center of mass and so it's more likely he's going to be hitting his torso or head I guess if people want to do an insta kill and those are his most armored parts and so he has more validity to rely on his armor because it does cover most of the vital areas essentially I'm not saying getting hit in the legs and everything wouldn't suck it's obviously would so there is a bit of a defense here yeah and again kind of back to chat a bit like you understand there are points in the show where he just like walks out into hails of bullets and gunfire I think my favorite one is when he just stands to take the shot from the assassin sniper in episode 5 he like wants to be shot it's really weird yeah like that's the thing he does things that I haven't rewatched that one because they were actively trying to avoid getting shot what is some he gets it's when he gets shot off his speeder he stands up she has him in the scope and he's just staring at it and then she shoots his chest plate well I'll talk about that when we come to it because there might be a defense there so we'll see it's just it's just strange that he's not doing anything to like you know even getting behind the speeder looking for a get behind anything at all drop do something he's just standing there that's right I think there could be defenses there because if she hits the speeder and explodes we know that nearby explosions can damage him quite a lot and so if he knows he's going to get shot there's no cover he can take by standing up there just that movement could actually encourage her to aim for center of mass more because it's more she's also tagged him like I think two times before that yeah at first she hits him twice and so she should and she's supposed to be one of the best of like I don't want to call her an assassin if that's not accurate but I'm just going to run with it for now it's weird that she just keeps shooting him in the place that she knows doesn't kill him even though it doesn't do anything yeah well I mean again this is this one that one's hard to try and determine should she be out there or like I personally like that because in the real world the best knife is in the world at such ranges it's very difficult to get him in the throat purposefully and stuff like just hitting just that's the I'm showing you the that's what she can see yeah that's this is after shooting him twice yeah yeah but even if she sees that we don't know how much straining the blaster bolt does over long distances that's what she does and she hit him twice from an even further distance while he was moving yeah but that's technically what a master sniper is trying to achieve just hitting them and just hoping that it's strong enough to blast through his armor and even Mandalorian says he's not sure his armor could take it and so like to me that makes perfect says like like she just wants to hit him and that is an achievement but she knows that hitting him in the chest won't work because she's already clarify he's standing still at this point and she gets a decent chunk of time to be able to aim this I'll try and show chat now it is and I want to show the clip itself but I really care about copyright because YouTube's annoying with this the assumption though even with armor is that if one hit doesn't work you've weakened it and perhaps more hits would she doesn't know that is wearing best guy does she I mean with blasters does it does blunt force is that like a factor well well see my like I feel if they were consistent blasters should have a lot more penetrative ability at close range they established it kind of in the first episode but then they give up on the consistency of it because that could be great if they were consistent that oh he's wearing armor we need to like get point blank range to be out to kill him that could be that's a great limitation in the functionality of blasters that they need to work through in the actual narrative of the story but they never they never go with it consistently because you know when they take cover or behind metal things it's always strong enough to resist whenever the convenience of the plot say yeah and so to me like hitting him in the chest center of mass at large range like if in the styles universe the master like if they take a more realistic approach that a master sniper it's a great shot if you can just hit them tag them at such distance and terms of pinpoint accuracy is just something unattainable because yeah but he's standing still and he's way closer and she has plenty of time to make the shot and she's put multiple rounds in his chest and she's extremely talented from what we understand yeah and she's like really really good at this stuff together and you're like like your criticism is just as valid as also saying that being master just means it's good that you're able to hit them and and to expect one or the other over the other option you can't really pick one they're both they're both kind of arbitrary and so this is just like a freebie shot so that's him standing up in the thing yeah he's just there either on his knees or just standing I think look I'm not saying it's a perfect defense but I'm saying the logic could be he wants her to hit him in the chest so it's presenting an open target to encourage it yeah that could work yeah and I just I find it bizarre that she wouldn't go for you can like see what's working on him in terms of armor she's shot him in the chest plate already as far as I'm aware the logic is a lot closer and so he already said that is not sure the out his armor itself would be out of survive at that close range and so her logic is that I've hit it twice it must be weak in his closer now so she could obviously assume and rely on the fact that this one should go through because he isn't aware of houseball she could just shoot him in the neck because she knows that there's no armor there so wouldn't you say that him acknowledging he doesn't know if it'll hold up is actually a reason for why it wouldn't make sense that he's just standing here instead of well what else if you can't take cover because the bike will literally just moving moving will make you harder to shoot I agree maybe just ducking to the side and rolling might have been better but if you're risking you're putting a lot of hopes in the sniper to give him a free shot that they're not just going to headshot you right here like he's taken up half her scope basically and she's just staring at him I don't know yeah I just I mean we can move on because yeah I don't think this is like look there are easily points to criticize it but it doesn't break the show and to me it's not a huge one even if there is Alan criticisms to be made it's just there are for sure bigger flaws for us to get to because for me things that break a show to the point where something happens so dumb that it ruins my enjoyment is like hyperspace ramming or they don't know which way is up that's like that's and you can't defend that crap I want to rapid fire some stuff just because I want to make sure we actually are progressing you know some way shape or form just some stuff just some stuff I will just say about his neck right his armor if you go back to the picture his armor went up high enough that it looked like that angle like there wasn't a gap between his helmet because he was like moving his holding his chin down and the armor the picture will just look at I don't think the neck was open fire no no like his his hunching his his helmet like I think he's looking slightly down a little bit but she's above him shooting downwards yeah yeah like aiming for that that's a very even if there is a gap it's very small and there might not be a gap because the helmet might be covering it he's hunching his chin down so anyway that's just another observation yeah this doesn't also get rid of the why doesn't she shoot him in the head thing when he's just well while his helmet made a best guy as well okay the slit the slit yeah the slit is annoying also it's a headshot with the right and I still think that the fact that he is so much closer in range and she's already hit him twice it's an easy you know thing for to feel that all right this actually but that would damage the head now that I'm thinking about the head shot it's like that body shot it seems to hurt him so the head surely would be the best option at this point the head could have enough concussive force to knock him out that's what I'm saying like yeah it's just like clearly a better decision to shoot the head I feel anyway moving along more of that rapid fire alright so don't you think it's weird that both Satan and the blue alien for some reason know the access code into his weapons or is it just that you press a button and it opens up his weapons case yeah I don't know what that's about it's weird maybe you should have locked them but like I don't know it's weird like if I was going to let aliens walk around my ship that I had captured was going to for bounty I would lock up my weapons safe so would I pretty risky to let your bounty wander around with the option to grab any guns it wants to I don't know why it's just a weird moment it's pretty interesting that he left his ship open so that the baby could just like walk out of his ship when he was on Tatooine oh wait he does that a couple times when I say rapid fire I'm actually trying to go chronological and some of these are going to be tiny some of these will be more significant I imagine keep going I should be able to keep pace with you because my next one is the little this is a nitpick of the nitpickiest nitpicks but the little continuity thing with a table Molly you found oh this shadow disagree with it would agree with that nobody would disagree with that but it's it's tiny so we're probably fine on that one like it's just they put money on a table when it's not supposed to be there and then it appears later it's just a small thing you guys are just nitpickers nitpicks if anything we thought it was interesting nobody on set noticed it all the editors but it happens I didn't notice it the first two times I watched the episode so um so I find it interesting that um Mando is meeting with his the people who are going to commission him for this job and a scientist walks into the room unarmed and he pulls his guns on him and pulls out his obviously other gun to defend himself for the room right so it's like okay so we established that Mando is quite edgy uh oh on edge I mean not edgy um and very careful I like this it's like he's he's like he needs to be in control of the room he needs to know what's going on at all times and they do it again when a little girl in episode four walks in like behind him and she's like she's just like whoa and I think he even might pull out his gun I can't remember if she's like oh it's fine it's fine it's just a kid and he's like okay and again I kind of like that as a sort of he's so like riddled with PTSD that he can't even trust the idea of a little kid walking by it's like okay however in episode four what he's working on his ship in the middle of the night in the fucking woods two dudes come up behind him and he's just like what do you want it's like oh okay uh we weird his his a nervous just devil's advocate did he see him before an approach and so he knew who it was they came up behind him in the middle of the night yeah but still like his visor thing could give him and he could have just glazed that direction and saw him much further away and so he knows it's them and then he keeps working when he's creating scenes that don't exist he doesn't know who they are though yeah you don't like what do you think he saw about the two adult men like no of course of course of course I don't hate you Chad I love you I know you guys hate me alright like I said rapid fire I'm gonna keep this going are we still in episode one yes every Mandalorian constantly wears their helmets question mark like in especially in not more size lead the place that they are in episode one I forget what it's called Navarro yeah so we should probably talk about that then the Mandalorian sort of sect or whatever you want to call it in Navarro are they all not allowed to take off their masks and they're all not allowed to go up more than one at a time except one at a time that seems you're circle you're turning green but we can't hear you oh sorry I wasn't saying I can hear you now okay sorry the mic is on sensitivity so you're gonna hear it'll just go green with very minor background also one more interruption before you go so he's startled at a little girl primitive but not too adult male primitives okay at night okay alright yeah but yeah the we learn that they only go up the Mandalorians only leave their hideout one at a time yeah it'd be nice to have that explained like why I don't know how a society can like if they're all bounty hunters do either work for the guild or they all are hunters of some kind I don't know how you could keep a society going if only one person is allowed to do stuff on top side and surely they'd be found eventually especially because he just walks in so this is the biggest thing I didn't even think about until me and Ragnis rewatched it you have Mandalorian go and get a big old tub of beska cool empire man establishes later that it's so neat to see beska be crafted by its artisans cause that's a very specific skill apparently Mandalorian gets it done in the same day he gets that beska on the same plan he didn't even leave does that not make everyone wonder where exactly he got that done it's like hmm and it literally does seem like you can just stumble into their hideout yeah there's no security in the last episode they actually showed that to get to that part there's a big tunnel complex like it's bad because there's a big tunnel complex but it's in a sewer he walks downstairs but I can't remember if there was a cut or not to like to establish that he could have walked through you can see daylight in the staircase yeah but was there a cut between the staircase and when he actually enters the thing I mean so at this point we have to assume that there was a door he opens there's no check because it's weird because they show in the imperial hideout that he has to the little butler robot pops out of the wall he gives the credentials it unlocks he goes in they have it for the imperial place but not for the Mandalorian hideout seems like a very very odd choice yeah it's hidden by there's an opening cause I'm watching it now I would show it on screen but I'm trying not to risk a copyright he moves like a blanket that's on a door he walks in there's a staircase that's lit up from something I just presumed daylight I don't know for sure and then he's already seeing Mandalorians from the moment he hits the bottom of the staircase like they are very close and the second time in episode 8 when they arrive they arrive there through the sewers through a separate way and they just walk in as well yeah terrible place to hide yeah all my point would be is I fail to believe they could have kept hidden for very long at all and this is much later on but when they exposed themselves why did they stay there did they not leave I thought they were going to leave yeah that's what that's one of my big problem and how in the world how would the world of the stormtroopers defeat them I know that was that was one of my because it's funny the stormtroopers are shit it's hilarious but they can also kill Mandalorians a whole all coven of them I agree big problem yeah so rapid fire I have here we talked about earlier just to reiterate why don't the Imperials go get baby elves things like later episodes show that they are not fledgling or weak they have lots of troops and stuff like that but we talked about earlier I do want to say it is I liked it first that the stormtroopers were wearing dirty and poorly maintained armor that was clearly worn and not to show that they're hiding and they're not getting cleaned up to show that they either don't have the supplies they used to that they are kind of skint on supplies that they're laying low that appearances aren't the most important thing for them right now and then every other time we see stormtroopers later they're all super clean super pristine so I was hoping that there might be a little showing it's just it's weird that one is one way while the other one with a clean in episode three when he goes in and fights them no okay well then it's just that these are the fancy ones for the higher up that he you know expects them to be all of the stormtroopers later they're pristine cleaned up perfectly maintained but these guys here who do have contact with the stormtroopers from later I guess they're just making do without supplies it's just it's odd to me I'm not going to really count it against the show much but I will say it is odd to see that inconsistency you would think that there'd be some cross it's odd that they wouldn't continue that I think for me I just assumed that the stormtroopers for the other guy are more well equipped and maintained and present themselves and the stormtroopers on that planet who were stationed there are dirty I didn't really notice but you would still think that if they're laying if anything if they're laying low and they're not in the field doing missions and doing work that their armor would be really good looking I don't know when you're away from real strict authority and stuff like that they were surrounded by the their guy they had their guy that one guy but turns out that guy was on them in terms of just maintaining presentability and chat wants me to clarify whether or not the Mandalorians actually died or if they left their armor she says because Mandalorian says did any survive she says I hope so some may have escaped offworld which imply I don't know about you guys but that tells me a lot of them died yeah also the armor is clearly got like hold shot in it and stuff like that so unless stormtroopers just really hated that armor laying on the ground which they should just use like that armor is worth a fortune if any of its best guys and you would think that the Empire who is supposedly not nearly as well equipped as before for pragmatic reasons would be like yeah this is a lot of money in this pile right here we could use money for outfitting I don't know maybe buying our guys some not really it's an inworld canon knowledge that stormtroopers occurs and no matter what they wear it automatically becomes paper thin they can wear best car and it's paper thin instantly and they'll still die well the rise of skywalker taught me that the force is a good answer for literally the dark side of the force is a pathway shut the fuck up sheep so I'm gonna for quick fire unless you guys want to continue on that the other point no it's just a one thing I didn't mean to talk about it too much this is potentially nothing I'm just curious did all of the bounty hunters get a down payment like Mando did in a bar of Besco good question I'd say no because there was a shit ton of them all I can say is did he get one because he's the best in the past Mandalorian I did say he was the most expensive I think that it's a different reason I think the reason is because multiple times does this character have a name the the imperial guy the bald guy Werner says multiple times he brings up the fact that the Mandalorians and the rifle way of things and returning it to where it belongs the best car so I think it's specifically he gave the Mandalorian the best car because he was a Mandalorian he seems to have a this idea of there's a natural way for things to be that the world needs to be returned to or that things should be and for him part of that is best car steal is something that Mandalorians have it's very possible that he probably gave down payments to the other bounty hunters if he did it all because they probably weren't as good as he was in just things like credits or what not but I think the best car was specifically for him I think it's an inference I just thought it was funny if they'd given the best car bar to like everybody I like this I like this in chat Herzog is a mandibu he does actually seem to be that's a good that's a good the themes of when he arrives on baby Yoda's planet so I don't know if there's anything else before we move in there for you Rex um yeah the next thing I have here is where he has gone to land on the baby Yoda planet yes right yeah I was wondering why he landed so far away and I have heard some people defended that you know you know him from the sky but then why couldn't you just fly in low once you land on the planet and get closer maybe they did like scanning but like scanners don't seem to be limited in planetary range if you can scan something on the planet does seem you can scan the whole planet so there's that and so it's hard to try and find a valid defense for it because yeah that's a long way to land also John Penn said you need to discuss the size of a parsec as long as we establish that he's the best in out of the Navarro that's pretty significant because that's the bounty hunter's guild it's like all of them are there and like even if you can't look it up and you're just going by why would he say that no one says he's the best guy in the neighborhood the best guy in this building yeah the best guy in this building let me see though how big is a parsec I think a parsec is 6 point uh something like a parsec is 1.9 plus 10 to the 13th power miles 3,262 light years hold on let me so one parsec is equal to 31 trillion kilometers and equates to about 3.26 light years so it's nothing parsec is not that big in the galactic scale still if you're the best guy in the if you're the best guy in 3.6 light years that means basically in 2 or 3 star systems max you're the best which I don't think that's insignificant there's a lot of bounty hunters uh yeah no exactly it's it's just funny because parsec they're pretty big but uh it's probably a galactic scale just because this does come up in episode 1 and we're kind of running through it quickly I'll mention one of my points of praise for the series that was present in episode 1 and then throughout the whole thing I like the consistent set pieces that were accurate callbacks to establish war so you know the the weird eyeball thing that comes out of things we saw the droids that we saw other things helmets and things and it was done beautifully well that like this is showing a very consistent star wars universe visually and I could enjoy just watching the star wars universe in each episode which also it didn't seem like it was just shoehorn din because it's a reference a lot of the stuff it seemed like it made sense where it was not exactly made they integrated it naturally and consistently and they didn't like there were new things but they didn't make up crap that quantity like why like for instance the bombers like you got wire wings that are so much better like and those weird things on the on the on the salt planet and stuff like this was not trying to recreate star wars it was just trying to be star wars and I appreciated that I agree so he pulls up his sniper and he sees a creature looks pretty vicious heading right toward him and instead of firing his vaporizing flash gun he decides to try and pull out his pistol I think is it yeah no he does flamethrower yeah flamethrower yeah so he's he lands where he lands for whatever reason he's scanning around for something he's looking through the scope of his rifle with his rifle rays looking around a essentially a wild beast for all he knows pops up right in front of his scope right in front of his reticle and he instead of shooting it he instead pulls his rifle away and then instead of getting his blaster he readies his flamethrower really strange choice I would like to submit this for the list of he's an idiot like yes I would need to watch that scene again because I can't read also I've got it on screen if you're able to see the stream if I can just bring up disney plus in the background and that means I can also reference things just while we're talking about it I can pull along it's so strange that his first port of call in terms of defences is a flamethrower with which if anything would probably piss the thing off seems very inefficient maybe he was hungry I just mean out of all of his choices he gets to kill it and he just stays but yeah it's just obviously we also know that his gun is like a cattle prod and he doesn't choose to use it that way he doesn't fire it he doesn't pull his blaster he just uses his flamethrower yeah why didn't he immediately shoot he like lowers his gun that's pointed right at it so he used a flamethrower there we are yes afterwards it pops up and instead of again shooting it he lowers his weapon brings it to the side and he tries to in fact he activates his flamethrower but it grabs there's not even much of a chance for him to aim the flamethrower it's all very strange it's a stranger I can't remember so this could be a completely inaccurate telling but my memory was like I thought he saw one it wasn't a threat cause it was far enough away so he lowered it and then he was attacked from the side from another one no no it's the same one here's a screen shot I don't know if it's the same one this one like yeah I mean even if it wasn't the same one you're still shooting the one that's in your gun sight right there especially because oh big monster teeth it's strange that it wasn't heard beforehand cause these things go blah blah blah it's weird that like oh yeah the jumpscare it's kind of like the scene in Avengers where Black Widow is walking around and then she just looks up and Hulk is suddenly screaming at her and it's like oh where'd you come from also he's lucky like I'm looking at it now look at that bite it takes like he's lucky that arm didn't come clean off cause he looks at one and he sees it in the distance and then he keeps on looking and he keeps on looking around and then this one just pops up right in front of him right in the middle of a scope right where he's pointing and I guess he's like oh okay I'll try to flamethrow it yeah all I gotta say is just he likely didn't have it loaded ammo is rare okay what hang on no I mean that's a very powerful gun and if you thought he could take it out easily with something else and not waste the valuable ammo I don't disagree with that the idea there's not loaded though I don't know why would he not have a bullet in it well no no no if he wasn't intending to use it and he just wanted to use a scope to like a telescope to hang on wait because he's there he had no indication that it was a monster it really looked like he just wanted to scan the this time now I know this is probably being too generous I've been trying to excuse it because it's not explained in the show but if he was just using it as a telescope and it wasn't loaded it makes pretty logical sense that he would need to throw it or side quickly to get his flamethrower there because the thing literally jumps up in front of him without warning and it does look like it's a separate one I'm just looking at Disney Plus yeah but it's not like it's he didn't confuse it for a different one somebody said it jumps up in front of him so you can remove the scope yeah he covered the scope so this is invalid well no no no hang on if I had a scope on the thing and it's just as easy to look through it while it's attached to the gun it's not that easy well no if I'm holding the gun like and it takes you know I could attach it and just look through it that's not something to really do but he doesn't do it later then does he yeah he does when he's later on he uses the exact same scope when he gets the compound but he doesn't have it attached to the rifle when he knows there are bad guys that are armed right in front of him that he's looking at I'll certainly give you that one but I think the defense that if he was just using the rifle as a telescope to scan the vista this thing jumps up in front of him and it's a very short time between it appearing so yeah he sees one in the distance and by the way this loads more to the scene I'm happy to sort of if we can slink along a little bit or not the points have been made sort of thing I was going to say of all the times to not use your flamethrower I would say this is really not a good idea bad though you should probably use it now yeah which one is that? when he's got one arm trapped in the first one that's been tranked and he's like oh god I'm going to die it's like dude flamethrower now yeah now do the flamethrower get damaged because he's getting chomped on his pistol is on his right hand side though his pistol is on his right hand side so he can run his first arm that gets chomped down was the arm with the flamethrower oh my god he has access to his gun he doesn't even try yeah I just said it I tell that to you when we watch it I'm like man I guess he just doesn't shoot this guy well this is one of those clear parts that he didn't need to shoot him because he was about to be saved I know that's what I mean that's what I mean he was saved by Deus Ex Machina and he clearly knew that that was going to happen I think we've established that can you at least concede he behaves very strangely in this scene I think the part that's indefensible is not reaching for his sidearm everything else can be defended mostly I reckon it is literally a second one he's looking to his right when Andy sees the one in the distance then changes his perspective and is looking in front and then one jumps in front of it so it's a completely different monster he doesn't have enough time and if a gun wasn't loaded he has to throw it aside and then he goes to try and use his flamethrower then his flamethrower gets chomped easier to get out of his damage he's going to cattle prod on it yeah good point he could have used a cattle prod which as you know could have used the cattle prod it's a little further away from him too well hang on well the other thing is he nearly as deadly as a flamethrower and so he could have been wanting to kill it then I don't know he doesn't have a guarantee I don't have a cattle prod could it? it's called a cattle prod if I was that beast I would much prefer he used the flamethrower because by the time it even has time to like beyond me it'll just be a second and I've already charged him he'll probably be dead if he uses the cattle prod he can do whatever he wants with me sorry I just saw one of the super chats it's great he says he should have milked it and gained its trust what type of milk is it would that qualify as rhino milk? space something it's got it looks like a cattle with legs or something I guess going back to the argument if someone and again this is just me being devil's advocate if someone was really desperate to defend it they could take the defense that the cattle prod wasn't strong enough to take something down that big it's effective against humans no chance he could have knocked it out in one prod with this beast and so I threw it aside to try and use the flamethrower wasn't quick enough his arm gets chomped that damages his flamethrower so he can't use again but the thing that can't be defended is why doesn't he just grab his blaster the thing is the issue I have with the flamethrower is that a flamethrower is not going to kill it straight away it's just going to charge you and be on fire like it's it's not going to kill it straight away it probably has a really thick hide that's because it's a wild hang on fire is usually extremely effective at scaring off animals yeah but by that time it's already committed to charging you it's already too close getting burned on your face it's instant pain animals react very strongly but hang on if you're arguing for the best thing to do then it would be the vaporizing bullet surely well no no no if it's not loaded I refuse that argument it's not loaded hang on hang on this is one that you can't prove either way but why would it not be loaded like why would we not put a bullet in it because he wasn't intending to use it he was just trying to scan this there on a mission that he knows is very dangerous clearly scanning for something the fact that it wouldn't be loaded is very silly yeah that's why he didn't use his pistol this fight because that wasn't loaded either even if you say it's a mistake I feel it's a really sick mistake that doesn't portray him being well I mean this one thing that he didn't have it loaded even if it was a mistake it doesn't portray him as being a bumbling idiot yet okay well the thing is I saw something mentioned earlier maybe he panicked and made the wrong decision it's like well then he's not a very good bounty hunter then if he's like panicking and making that's your job this is your job like all of these things like this is like eight episodes of all and these are like tiny compared to stuff he does later on you know like this all adds up in this short amount of time I'm noticing Chad it doesn't seem like Chad an understanding that I'm purposely trying to be devil's advocate not that I agree with the points I'm making I'm just trying to give the strongest defense that other people would try and make for Mandalorian and especially because by testing any defense possible I think it's much better it enables us to really find the indefensible mistakes and that stand as a legitimate criticism like the fact he didn't reach for his sidearm when he was about to be charged that one is indefensible but we reach that by looking for any other defenses so that's what I'm doing guys okay I'm not trying to be an anal kind of yeah it's okay Chad it's a Chad I understand it's okay Chad because whenever in chat sometimes I'm like oh no for example I said I would be more concerned about a cattle prod if I was that thing because then I'd be stunned and you could do anything he wants to me and I was in my head thinking about like you could take that joke in a couple ways but people in chat were like you realize cattle prods don't kill people I was like that's not what I was saying that's not what I was saying if you incapacitate something it's not your mercy yeah that's that's entirely what my point was but you know it's alright it's fine Chad everybody as if the point that was if you have training you will never panic as if that as if that's the point you made um I was gonna say we can kick on because there's a lot with this moment so um Lucky Quail was in the area, Quill sorry Lucky Quill spotted the ship slash Mando and Lucky Quill is a person who is willing to save his life because he for some reason assumes that he's going to be helpful rather than allied with the people he wants out of this place yeah very convenient and it is a contrivance um yeah I completely agree and Lucky saved him before he was killed yeah like like this one doesn't break it I fully admit it's you know a problem and if I was writing this I wouldn't want something as contrived like that in my own writing it doesn't break it for me because you do learn to have to put up with it because this is the this is a very similar contrivance that happens in so much well the thing is like I know what about is him and it doesn't invalidate uh the criticism the criticism is completely valid and I agree well the thing is I'm kind of used to it because this is a common one when it comes to contrivances anyway it's like yeah it could happen it's just really unlikely you know it's a couple at once as well it's not just the one yeah it's pretty because the whole planet seems pretty empty but he happens to land in the one place where he gets immediately attacked and the one place where Nikonazzi is just sort of around to clarify is his name is his name quail quill or quill I thought it was quill his name is quill K U I L quill it is all right okay because I'm pretty sure Mando at one point says quill yeah I was I was unsure but I had been writing quill so we'll go with quill yeah quill so I guess just one final note on the scale of contrivances there are one like there are ones that are so much worse like a dagger that happens to absolutely to the that star that you just happen to see in the exact position that you know all that stuff and so even though it is that there are ones that are far worse that if it was something that bad that would kind of be like you know ruining the episode for me but this one all right I can this is one that's very commonly thrown at the episode couldn't Mando just park his ship way closer to the outpost yeah I agree all right could we think of any logical way to just well one of the things that I was thinking before was there was something along the lines of he didn't want to alert the guys he didn't want to alert the outpost that he was going to so his logic was I'll perk I'll park further away and then find a way to get closer to it which makes sense but the issue is that he's parked so far away he's parked really really far away I'm not sure what his plan is to get there on the back of writing on the on the weird rhino things you know it's like yeah so can I just point out and I know you'll probably mention this more because you're probably a quarter as well but quill mentions you can only get there on the back of these things yeah and then he walks back he walks back he walks back and he doesn't need as I didn't need him in the first place and he seems to go a different way yeah he goes a different way and also the path that they take they don't show any terrain that a speeder couldn't cross yeah they're very small gaps yeah it doesn't have a speeder it does seem to be implied that you need one of these things to jump the gaps and they're good jumpers but then it's contradicted by the fact that the gaps didn't prevent it because he just walked through the way back and it actually walking walking through the gaps there seems to have been a much better approach because it provided him full cover and there's still gaps anyway and plus IG 11 got there yeah I mean the next thing I have on my list is how come the IG unit only gets started without cover when it approaches from a vast open I will I will provide a screenshot in a moment it's quite hilarious actually because I think all they should have done is just have some caverns or something that it emerged from but instead they show this open plane and I don't know if it was just like a default background but there you go what could have worked well if the facility was actually on a prominent hill that gave it a really long this stuff and they had an anti aircraft gun or something like that exactly and he needs to land if you have a large enough hill that could cover a really long range and could explain exactly did he walk the whole way does he have his own ship that landed I guess he has his own ship yeah he can yeah he surely didn't where's his ship the point is it's ridiculous that they didn't spot him before he was 20 feet in front of him and I find it odd that I thought the IG units were established to be like hunter killer droids and so they're not I figured they should be like oh fuck it's an IG unit that sort of thing I'm just picturing this that the IG unit commando crawled all its way on the side got to those barrels right there and quickly ran out to the middle and like yeah I approached it did a little T-1000 jog before it got there alright I need to catch my breath alright and then it jumped out of the barrels on the side and was like I'm here now um so again some quick fire stuff I think these aren't necessarily flaws that could possibly be explained but I find it odd that IG 11's intention to self-destruct is countered by Mando like he's like don't self-destruct and he's like okay like they're not on a team necessarily it's kind of strange like why would why would Mando be commending against it stop his protocol well he might not be fully aware of Mandalorian's capacity ability in a firefight and so it's just kind of Mando saying yes we can get through it and without knowing the history of this you know Mandalorian the robot's just kind of going okay like I'm mostly willing to let that one go I just find it strange that's all um I did have a thing of for so throughout the season it shows that Mando has an extremely I'll be inconsistent hatred and mistrust of robots um when he sees the IG unit what he does is he goes down there and he sees that this is an IG assassin droid right and what does he do he walks right up to it without any cover and says oh hi and then shot conveniently in the chest please you know that's a good thing he had that good point he tries to make a deal with this robot even though it's established how much he hates and distrusts robot and this thing is incredibly dangerous and to approach the way he did was really dumb his position on robots he won't let pit droids fix his starship he will make deals on the spot with assassin droids he just met yeah I don't get as hung up on the deal because he either needs to kill it which is not sure he would be able to be or he could have just shot it from the side well hang on hang on that's assumed that point blank but um the part that's more indefensible is it just walking out like I don't buy that well I'll just say that I agree would be that much of a change in the damage to prevent that headshot also we never see we also never see kaiji taking a shot to the head as far as I'm aware he always tanks the shots to his armor in his chest and they just bounce off we never see him get shot I think it's weird that his head isn't made of the strongest metal versus his body and this is the thing because I actually like that idea if they make the the utility of blasters something far more understandable and then you could apply it in plot and if the rule was blasters can go through really dense steel at point blank that would be a great mechanic that they could use if they were just damn consistent with it which they're not and so I wish they were because it's worked worked well if that was the rule in this episode um and uh yeah I agree it's dumb that he just walked out he should have been taking cover and saying oi oi um yeah and if it was about if he was trying to be as safe as possible then he would have just shot it in the head because he's really close to him my my my major issue is just that if rags and I were approaching this area and we were like oh god there's robot killing everything I would turn it if I was part of the guild I'd try to address it from behind a pillar or something not rush out and go hey I Gio de la la la and then it just right the thing is though Mandalorian's hatred of droids doesn't exclude him from being willing to addressing that I'm not even addressing that part I'm strictly talking about from a survival point of view it's a really stupid thing to do it would be like if you just saw somebody undertake a really stressful battle and then you just leap it from the side like hey how's it going yeah like how is he gonna know that you're a friendly like you nutball yeah I agree like walking out like that was a very bad this is a plus one for his stupid meter all right hang on hang on okay so if we're gonna do a proper tally I think we should try and be aware of the smart moves he does and then try and do it more objectively because he does do smart tactic moves no that's not how this works if you are in a situation like him I'm gonna explain it yeah because so if you use cover 60% of the time you say alright he used it mostly the 40% of the time right he's doing something incredibly stupid something like this is insanely boneheaded so I don't know how you're gonna objectify saying oh well he used cover in this scenario or he did something smart in this scenario so this one time where he basically survived because of luck oh he's still good at what he does he still isn't stupid I guess the idea for me like I kind of expect just I've never seen a show where and this doesn't excuse it I'm not excusing it but I've never seen a show where they don't make a character accidentally do something done because they didn't think it through I wish they would always avoid it and so I agree this is a big problem but as to doesn't make me decide this character is stupid because of mistake in the writing or is the character still overall competent when he's written properly that's true he is the character is well the issue is that because stuff like this happens like if a consistency I don't think you'd have to look too far in the original trilogy to find Harn or Harn to hide I thought of one already where Harn is chasing down Stormtrooper and runs into you like a whole group of them and screams and runs away now of course that was a mistake and so that one probably not defensible but what I'm saying is I think you could find examples in stuff that's just as criticisable as this situation here but it doesn't ruin those shows for us because I kind of talk in the same way I take this it doesn't mean that the character is bone headed to the point of being your a demon but it's still a smart tactical character we see him do stuff like this throughout the season and it's well that's why I think we'll need to tally them up I'm interested in that because if the tally is overwhelming I'm willing to grant if it's overwhelming I'm willing to grant the concession that okay but to do that we wouldn't need to balance it out against all the times where he does do something every episode he foolishly does something that is insanely stupid where he risks his life and only survives through luck and that happens like every episode at one point you're gonna be like okay you're doing really stupid things consistently all the time and it'll depend on the consistency for me to how regular and this is definitely one I grant it well I mean I think I think it might be worthwhile actually to just for two instances where he nearly died because he did something stupid devil's advocate time then you had yeah is there any justification that you would have assumed him to be part of the guild because he's the famous Mandalorian hunter I don't think it matters if somebody's in the guild even if you were fighting in a war he literally kills guild members in the next episode yeah he did hang on but that's with cause and they're spitting well they jump him he's literally jumping IG here what does he expect yeah could be good point yeah IG's in the corner and he just killed a bunch of guys there was just a firefighter that's a valid counter that's a valid counter it's established in the next episode that bounty hunters are more than willing to attack each other which is kind of weird and specifically to get the bounty for themselves and that's the point that plays into this it seems fairly consistent that bounty hunters will try and kill each other to get the bounty themselves and so jumping then to the droid saying hi is established that there's a much higher chance the droid would shoot him to keep the bounty for himself and not say hey you're in hell somebody's saying like and he gets punished for that stupid mistake but he could have died like this is the problem is he makes a decision that could have killed him and he does it in every episode where it's just like I mean I think we're good on this right we can move on yeah on this one just real quick why is it that IG11 thinks that it's an absolute dead bounty versus dead or alive doesn't this bounty come from the same person yeah that is odd unless the droid just thinks dead bounties are easier to transport he could be conflicting orders maybe he was told something else could be conflicting orders or it could just be that's what the droid does he prefers bringing him in dead because they don't have a chance of escaping sure yeah I do also think it's odd I think that IG instantly agrees to splitting the bounty when he just destroyed everybody practically effortlessly that was against him sorry I missed that one IG unit he shows up destroys everybody practically effortlessly but then he agrees to split yeah I know exactly but then you have but then he instantly agrees to split the bounty with this other guy who shows up sorry I just the droid would have died on his own it wouldn't have succeeded why would the droid have any reason to believe that based on what it had just done it doesn't know the future I guess you're right that there is some validity in thinking okay there's no real big threats and I can take it on myself yeah like if you're steamroll and everything in front of you with no issues whatsoever and someone's like hey I'll help you if I take half of your reward you're like hell no I'm sorry unless the droid is just naturally cautious by default if it has the option to droids are always going they generally always go for the highest statistical advantage which is generally what C3PO establishes in all war even if the droid is winning because there's a statistical advantage to succeed with his hope and also that that's logically consistent I think this would make more sense if it wasn't a droid because the droid is perfectly fine blowing itself up if instead of like it would rather blow itself up and by the way the first time it says it's gonna blow itself up it is a very flimsy situation where I would go oh I can't risk capture I'm gonna blow myself up here well calm down like it's not actually that bad the situation we're in at all so sorry I I want to interject with something else a few people said in the chat that only the scientists wanted it alive like what actually happened was that German men said like we want it alive but then he does this whole like yeah I know it's a complicated profession so if you kill it that's fine we'll just pay you less they do not want to kill it and to bolster for any there the robot at the end of it says the commission was quite specific I feel like I'm being gaslit at the moment now because people keep telling me that I'm talking too much but I feel like I'm not I would say I just had another I just read a chat saying let free me speak damn it so this is the thing chat chat is all kinds of opinions all at once but I was gonna say like the robot does say the commission was quite specific and so it's not the droids preference to take it good point also someone saying it is a droid it would be considered expendable no it's probably expensive I have to imagine those things are quite valuable if anything the IG unit is way more valuable than actual bounty hunters that you're hiring it's way more valuable than like 50 stormtroopers like IG I'm ready to say that it's like insanely OP I don't think it's a overly unreasonable to just take the manufacturer's protocol sorry it can't be captioned stuff and it would be unreasonable if that's a core programming tenant in its head and so yeah like that doesn't bother me yeah I do I understand why but I think that the first time that it activates that and says it's gonna blow itself up it is definitely not really in a worse position than it was before in the middle of the courtyard spinning around shooting everybody instead of where with the big laser cannon blowing into bits before that before you remember how big like revolving shot they did where IG is in the trailer where he's just there like doing a bit of shooting around and all that yeah like the the big heavy repeater I understand that far more I have no complaints about that but the first time it offers to self-destruct it is really premature it seems yeah and I would just take that as a quirk in its own programming in that you know it's just oversensitive to resort to that protocol and that seems to be the case with it because it tries it several times but it didn't bother me alright so just to clarify apparently it's not clarified enough still so the script I have a cantono of beskar waiting for you upon delivery of the asset alive yes alive although I acknowledge that bounty hunting is a complicated profession so Fringy is right he's asking specifically for it to be alive however he accepts that it might die and the doctor is like wait wait wait wait whoa you know we want it alive so if you're going to take the specific commission off that guy it would be dead or alive it wouldn't be strictly dead and someone cited will wait but the doctor says in episode 3 that baby Yoda is the only reason that he's alive implying the doctor is like no no the doctor is talking about keeping baby Yoda alive post delivery for Mando yeah he's the reason why babe because he doesn't want to get killed by Mando he's trying to be like nah dude I want to he's alive because of me don't you like implying baby Yoda would have been dissected up to that point if not for the doctor which is actually a good thing it's telling us that it's not convenient baby Yoda is alive still it's that this character has a vested interest in keeping it alive which is supported by this is good stuff this is the good writing in the show whenever it happens occasionally it does exist it happened more so in episodes one two or three than everything that came afterwards and I just on that note then as well that bit because like I think it's good to acknowledge as well that there's for me I found a decent amount of good part things to enjoy in it that I enjoyed it overall and contrast this to other things when there's barely anything good to enjoy like the Rise of Skywalker I feel there's a marked difference which is why I think giving it something like a three is pretty rough because there's still a lot of good in it and it's no near as bad as Rise of Skywalker what about the relative I guess because what would be the scores that you more would give for like Rise of Skywalker and TOJ like one or two? We're looking at ones and zero I can't okay I can't say zero I'm not gonna say zero but holy our expectations were low but holy shit yeah and also like I don't generally assign numbers but we did that so for the sake of that sure but like very good like if you have masterpiece like audio and like sound effects if you have masterpiece level visuals those are not gonna get you nearly as many points as masterpiece level writing and direction I agree I agree that that but it does increase it oh yeah it does I think I honestly raised my rating on a solid point it was a single point but still a solid point for how good the production value is well I guess maybe if we were to divide it into like visuals production production wise it's like an eight or a nine it's really really good but the writing is what brings it down because the writing is low and on this one I'm very proud in terms of consistency of writing and stuff I probably would give it a four I would say that the writing is consistent in that it makes the same mistakes over and over again yeah like with him making bad decisions I was gonna say this is gonna get a hell of a lot worse I just wanna keep going this is the better episode yeah is there anything else for episode one not that I can pick up so the last thing I had was yeah IG says the bounty was to kill the orders why would the Empire have him go kill it it doesn't make any sense especially because it's just right there and they can take it back it's very odd that's the last thing I have for episode one well I enjoyed Mandalorian taking over the gun turret thing and then just fine with the distraction thing using his grapple to get to it yeah and see the grappling hook was actually one of the things I enjoyed I enjoyed a decent amount because it was like a superpower that had very strict defined uses and limitations and it was used consistently within those realms and he used it outside of just grappling things he did use it in combat and I enjoyed it I was like they did a good job and to add to that I think that the grappling hook is one piece of equipment that he uses very effectively he seems to use this very well I can see through walla vision and flamethrower and stuff like that he is very inconsistent and illogical with a lot of uses and he doesn't use them in a lot of places where he should be using them but the grappling hook man that is his favorite tool because he uses that rather well yes that was great I like that talking so I can even end the beginning of the show should we move on to episode two episode two? yeah so I'm gonna start with saying go ahead is there any good positive things in episode one there is a decent amount I think Mandalorian's character isn't tarnished yet in episode one I think he is still pretty good I can just picture Shad's face what do you need? just like the idea that he is doomed to be tarnished the more we progress episode one you could point out he makes a stupid decision but his characterisation is still pretty good and Shad is competent and capable and he can kick butt when he needs to but he is not unstoppable he still struggles he is definitely seems to be at his strongest in terms of being a competent bounty hunter I would say either in this one or maybe the best candidate is he doesn't really do anything in the three he just sits in the thing what about in the last episode when he shoots out his thing and grapples onto the TIE fighter okay that's also six you probably right yeah six when he takes out each of the two he is probably best at what he does in six except for hanging Satan we'll get there there are still some problems Cameron Netherton said not a single person decided to take cover when he was spinning around on that gun thing they are a bit silly in the head apparently there was a common fame in this entire episode of the enemies or the bad guys for the scene are insanely stupid and they don't seem to show any real a lot of times they show a complete lack of self-preservation we are actually about to highlight one of those significantly I was going to say so I'll throw in a good thing and then a TISM thing so I really love the wide shot where you can actually see the shadows and then you can note that Mandalorian is reacting to like very small sounds I noticed that too that you saw a shadow move and that was like the clue as to what he's reacting to and then they attack him not all at once which was a weird choice there's one and then a second one comes in pretty quickly far later but I'm more forgiving of that compared to this weird moment where he's like tussling with one of them and then another guy like just decides to sprint off and away from him despite the fact that he knows he now has a fucking vaporized gun to kill baby Yoda and it's like if you are successful if you kill baby Yoda, Mando's gonna kill you you can't collect the bounty what are you doing? if anything I'm dropping my weapon I'll tell you anything you want to know take everything I have just let me live like it's this bizarre moment in the fight just sure is a good thing that none of those guys had guns it's pretty stupid that all three of them didn't jump on him at once though so this is the collection right? they didn't all jump him at once they all for some reason don't have blasters which are pretty commonplace and one of them decides to try and kill baby Yoda in the fight yeah it's strange look at him he's so stupid yeah I think that honestly the biggest criticism is the fact they don't have guns I can excuse the stupid moves in combat because bad people fighting are bad it's just like if we can't have him no one can yeah this is Star Wars carry game skins but the thing is the actual fighting itself is decent enough and it's enjoyable it's deflecting and it's cattle prodding them and yeah so I still think it's enjoyable even though there are still things that you say are very dumb and I would say where are the guns but honestly they didn't have guns because they wanted a choreographed hand in the fight scene are we supposed to assume these are bounty hunters by the way yeah yeah they have fobs is there any guild rules for this or no because the problem right now I can obviously extrapolate isn't it incredibly risky to be going back to Navarro when apparently anyone can attack and take your bounty yeah I assume this is I'm trying to read the scene to try and have it make sense you have to do that a lot with this show but I assume that with a guild it is strictly super against the rules to attack and steal the bounties of other guild members of course it would be one of the points of the guild is that you're competing sure but you're also cooperating to a degree also if the guild finds out that one of their guild members is killing other guild members yeah they're just gonna kill you not gonna kill you also what was I gonna say I would assume that you guys are knowingly going against the rules because of that because if it was the case that you were allowed to just steal everyone's bounty everybody would just be waiting at the spaceport at Navarro to ambush people and steal their stuff yeah I think there would be a couple of caveats to it like there would be a race to try and get to the mark first and so there would be competition there and they might be able to fight each other on the way as soon as you have it in your possession then I think there would obviously have to be some type of guild rules to say you shouldn't be able to steal it or they have the rule that until you get back to the planet where the bounty was issued it's always a free-for-fall anyone can get it but as soon as you're in vicinity of the guild that's when you have to play nice because we don't want to have bounty hunting people and I want to I don't mean to interrupt but I want to cut off chat a few people noticed that I'm not saying that what they do doesn't make sense I totally understand why with the value of this bounty and with the fact that Mando is alone and they're on some somewhat semi-remote planet all out alone in the desert I totally understand why they did and I'm not saying it's bad at all that they did from a writing perspective I totally understand why they did I'm just saying that is super breaking guild rules because we're talking about the guild and stuff like that I see there's more of a problem for Navarro than a problem for this scene yes this scene I totally understand why they did I would like to sneakily throw in a detail here just slide in a detail he did not load that rifle before firing it oh my god oh no and it was on his back and you know why you know why Molo? he learned from his mistake when it wasn't loaded after that it was like this bloody thing loaded all the time he was like yes something could pop up in front of me in mind I might actually have to shoot with my gun I better keep it loaded good lesson I'm glad to see he learned from it so let's see let me scroll down to my episode too also my note start off is why is Mando walking at the beginning where is his mount I thought you couldn't get there by walking you can only use the controls to move we addressed that earlier though why didn't he leave his mount behind maybe Quill took it with him when he left and said you're on your own I know you think Quill would have left him so I think that's just bad writing he ate it he ate it he fucking flamethrowered that shit and he ate it he's finally a youth for this damn flamethrower I like the scene where he is repairing his armor and Yoda keeps walking toward it it's a nice little moment of just being like alright and it was foreshadowing with the healing it gives us something to make because the logic would be this little guy is like my protecting man is hurt I want to help that sort of mindset which can sort of lead to you being like I wonder if I can do anything it's a bit of an extrapolation but it's in the same vein as Luke like trying to pull that lightsaber because it's just out of his reach in Empire sort of natural actions that might lead you to attempt something or make you feel like you have something as opposed to maybe I can brainwash this person someone someone asked me in Cantina if I guess this relates to the gun thing someone asked if I keep a round of the chamber on my everyday carry and I do because you need there to be one there if you're going to shoot so but yeah that is what I do personally and as far as I know there's a lot of people who do it's certainly what I prefer so to answer that question there you go it was asked of me well we have evidence of someone not doing it oh some people do it but he does now so yeah and so it's foreshadowing he's clearly trying to heal and Mandalorian is not letting in and you know I have I hate the healing in Star Wars I do think it's more defensible with baby Yoda because of the uniqueness of his race or something like that I still prefer that they just keep it out I don't think it should be about the race at all and I don't like that one race can use force to some fairly extreme levels like even lifting the mud horn is an extremely powerful force move but like healing a flesh wound that's that small and knocking him out for the day or something I'm cool with that lifting the mud horn is like whoa that is I I'm gonna say that that is too much that is way too much that thing probably weighs a shit ton and for how long and he doesn't just stun it or stop it or push it off course he lifts that motherfucker and he holds it up couple of things at least they have him knocked out for like a day yes see the thing that redeems it somewhat is that at least it has a very significant cost on baby Yoda and they're actually consistent with that so that's good and it is a more unique situation that could help explain that he can do it just because his Yoda race or whatever so it's not as bad as just a human suddenly lifting something up and not having needed to train for it and things so that makes it a little bit more defensible still don't like it but I can I can go along with it and just put it in the back of my head like okay fine people are citing size matters not it's like guys you know that size matters you know that it matters it definitely matters guys how I think they're saying size matters not as for the person doing it but this is a really large object moving at a high speed with a lot of oomph and weight and effort behind it also let's just be clear this thing isn't even smart enough to speak yet let alone understand what it's being told but it has the mental capacity to do this I think that's really really pushing it when you look at the kind of strain Yoda had to go through to stop the falling rocks and things of that nature man this baby stopping that charging mud horn and lifting it and holding it in the air for as long as it did and I gotta say like you gotta be careful on this because I'm assuming just assuming most of chat will take issue with Ray so you gotta reconcile this size matters not you have half a mountain size matters not couple of things is like I said I have issues with it but I do think there are enough significant differences to separate this from just that's different it's definitely not on the same level no way and I do have no idea about baby Yoda's history and I do appreciate that they knock him out for a while yeah and that's what seems not for me in terms of size matters not my own thoughts on is like Yoda does say that but that's outrightly contradicted by every way the force is shown to us being used in the movies where heavy things are always harder for people to lift I think when they say that they mean the person using the force well what I yeah what I was kind of taking from it to contextualize what Yoda was then saying to make it make sense in a contradicting is that Yoda was trying to say you can overcome size and then size weren't going to be initially here I'll show you still more difficult for me but I'm overcoming it also someone quoted me the ability to speak does not make you intelligent I was like alright this isn't child he can't even speak he can't understand the things that he's told like yeah that has something to do with intelligence like sorry the ability to speak does have something to do with intelligence and the ability to concentrate it does have something to do with your mental faculties and it's like it takes training to use the force so I find it very hard to believe that someone that is that young who can only do so much has the fortitude and capacity mentally to be able to use the force to that you know to that capacity so I had an unfulfilled theory that baby Yoda was faking it and he could actually speak fully mature like a 50 year old person and that he was only faking being a baby because he was still really vulnerable being so small he had the force but he could only use it and then it would get knocked out and so by acting as a baby pretending to be a baby it got others to protect him and there was a protective thing and that would have been cool of just somewhere I think at this point fans would find annoyed like they'd be like no they gave him a weird voice no no no I would like it as like you know something happens and baby Yoda is there and Bando gets hit or falls down and just rolls up and says falling down you have and there's like what I'll let you in on my subject and then he could be like if he was a smart mouth then going on there was a lot of potential they could have known and again like some people chat are saying like oh intelligence is on a spectrum alright like like a cow has a level of intelligence a human has a level of intelligence this is all in a spectrum like an infant is not going to have the same like it's hard I don't believe that an infant has the ability to access the force in a way that we know requires or should require training in order to use if he isn't intelligent enough to speak and understand and communicate with people and do stuff of that nature like when you're talking about how he hides from the droid on the ship that's a pretty that's a very very base level kind of thing to do yeah I don't know about that because there are certain instinctual things that different species can pick up and just born with just to clarify what are we establishing his intelligence to prove that he has that he can use the force power and for me that's not too much of an issue to this degree is important the force power to this degree cause like he doesn't just use the force a little bit sure I can understand that a baby that's force sensitive can use the force to a degree but this is like some stopping the mud hoard from charging it and holding it in the air I think that's a really big deal but it really struggled it really struggled to pull that off I guess the thing is though is that Luke Luke had to like train to be able to lift the X-Wing oh wait no but he didn't let he only lifted it but yeah like he I guess my thing is is I'm kind of a I'm I feel like I'm in a middle ground on this one again because I'm not sure that it's like so far out of the realm of possibility that a like baby Yoda might just sort of in you know like might instinctually know that the force is a thing even if he doesn't fully understand what it is if you know what I mean like I'm in the camp where if later on they explain how it has had training or something then I'll buy it but right now I'm not convinced of it you know like like is it I can't really buy it but it can be explained later yeah like if they if they find out like he goes back to his family or his planet or whatever they're like oh yeah this is a race of people that are extra force sensitive even at a young age they show an incredibly gifted connection to the force even infants and they're like they're like super special in some way or there's some kind of explanation for it okay maybe I'll be convinced but as it stands right now I'm not quite convinced that it's you know a thing I think that's fair I mean like yeah I don't like the implications of it subverting the fact that generally especially here to that level the force you need to train and it's always been you have to train to be able to know so I don't like the subversion there but I think it can be justified even though I don't like it and which is exactly what you were saying for that and also when he uses the force when Baby Yoda uses the force I feel like that more than lifting the mudhorn is a display of like I it's really hard to get a bead on Baby Yoda and his um like his force competency and the training it's like I think there's still a lot that can be explained right now it's definitely not like Mary Sue levels but I'm still not quite still not quite buying it like it still seems like I think that it should have just calmed the mudhorn down that was all and keep it stunned but don't lift it I don't know why they had to lift it up in the air cause that's cool it's a cool shot it's a cool reveal yeah so that's why they didn't I think they should tone it down we have skipped over there I'm not mad Chad I'm not mad I just don't buy it this is my white male rage I got from Joe it's all seeping out we did skip over the Jawa chase scene which I thought was good I really liked it I didn't at all why so alright so what is his plan get his stuff back climb on board so what happens why wasn't his ship on lockdown yeah good yeah and it's established that it can go on lockdown in a last second episode here's an important one so when he you know like Nick Nolte knows that Jawa's on this planet but I guess he just didn't tell Mando that that might be a problem for a ship yep I would have told him by the way your ship it's gonna get fucking on maybe you should just drive a little closer to the thing maybe you should just leave it in my house buy it to my house yeah he shouldn't point it to his house actually yeah my point was the actual chase scene I enjoyed it it was fun no of course I was just doing that first chronologically it was both done why aren't the Jawa shooting him with stuns immediately instead of throwing bits of junk at him there seems to be a range limitation on those stuns they always use close range he's right by the windows yeah he pulls one of them out he's so close yeah Mando he pulls one good point yeah they're all up there with the stun ones but it was tough for him and in terms of his plan like I can understand someone you got my stuff and just chasing after them without having enough time to think of a plan and now I'm here like an amateur would do this is another thing about Mando needs if he is the best bounty hunter in the park he's doing this whole life he's been trained in combat by the Mandalorians you expect better I don't know what would you say a master would have done in that situation well I can't say accurately because I'm not a master of combat but I feel as if that look I'm not a master he picks off a few at a distance right and then he starts running close he doesn't like try to sneak on board he doesn't use his grappling hook to get to the top before they start to take off when you say take off what do you mean like like when they start to close up the ship and go away spin away travel away move go I'll say you think instead of like because for me that was my favorite ship and I see them stripping it I think it's a valid reaction to go use some yeah sure on an emotional level sure but I expect better out of a seasoned veteran like him instead of going alright I need my stuff back instead of him going you know I'm mad I'm gonna start killing them going oh well I need to get my parts back so what's the best way for me to do that giving my position away from this distance at a long range I can't kill them all there's no way I can kill them all don't even have enough ammo for that how am I gonna get my stuff back do I wait and then follow the tracks until nightfall do I sneak on board the crawler or at least try to what is he what's he doing here yeah I don't know if you're like because it's established that he's not flawless like he struggles and fails a lot and so that also is implied tactically he can really kick butt when he needs to yeah but I think that's just it's consistent to show him you know reacting emotionally so he can be really angry and behave intelligently can't we all yeah why doesn't he if he's such a seasoned veteran I thought I thought you were saying that as a contrast saying you can be angry and make mistakes and be intelligent like because you know I know it happens to me all the time when you don't have enough time to think something through or something like that but he had plenty of time I don't know they were in the middle of the ship was open some people are saying he's not a veteran in chat surely he's a veteran isn't he like in his 40s he's the best in the parsec how's he not a veteran how does he not have a lot of experience under his belt he's been trained his whole life to do this stuff no no no because that doesn't mean that he is flawless like he is really good at fighting and you could become the best bounty hunter by being really good at fighting and he's like depending on how smart he is I think we're gonna have to determine that but just on this case study alone by itself it's not acting like a complete buffoon idiot it's reacting emotionally yeah he wasn't acting like a total idiot sure I feel like rags is holding him to a high standard you bet your ass I am holding Mando to a high standard he's a Mandalorian for starters who are supposed to be the elite of the elite in this also this is what he's been trained for his whole life he's the best bounty hunter in the parsec yeah I'm holding him to a high standard yeah yeah but you can achieve that high standard of being an elite and the best in the fight just by being good at fighting which he clearly is and have him make mistakes technically which he can do he definitely can do that in fact he's almost like he likes to just remind people he's been doing jobs we really found one big mistake he did in the first episode and I don't think this is a huge mistake in this one in just reacting like you stupid things get out of my ship he wants to stop them stripping it so he shoots them that you know it makes them run away and then he chases them and stuff and you know that's all you know it's fine like it's reacting to being real and I would be ticked off if my shit was getting stripped like that granted he could have acted more tactfully and like alright I'll chase him down but if he didn't do something right off the get-go they just would have kept stripping the ship if he like wanted to wait to sneak aboard that's still the length of time in which they're damaging his ship further and stripping it even further which means there's more stuff he would need to get back and so by firing he stops them, no no but by firing he stops them stripping it yeah but I guess it doesn't matter anyway because all those parts would be in the same place wouldn't it have been a better idea for him to like sabotage the uh the vehicle so they couldn't or straight up just try to approach them he seems to be on good terms with Tusken Raiders I don't know why he wouldn't be with Jawas well he's ticked off they're stripping his ship yeah yeah you're right you're right so the best thing to do yeah the best thing to do at this point is to be like whew gonna suck up that rage and be like look guys this is my ship the best thing that he should have done I'm arguing what he did done is justifiable and it doesn't make him an idiot and he still can be a competent one of the best you know mercenaries in the galaxy well like you know not immediately shooting the Tusken Raiders I actually quite like that bit in that it's like oh it tells you that he's again I hate he's seasoned he knows what to do around these parts he knows how to talk to these people he knows how to deal with all this like how does he not know what Jawas do there's some other planet he can speak Jawas he can speak a little bit of Jawas he's definitely had experience with Jawas and Jawas do trade like we know that they're they're not like a strictly scavenging I get his thing I would not want to have to pay money for that stuff that is mine and so if I can they took it you know without trading so if I could try and take it back forcefully so I don't have to trade or go through crap like killing a mudhorn to get back what's rightfully mine I would take it and what was his plan when he got onto the ship what was his plan to get when he got on the vehicle like what was he gonna do kill every single one and then drive it back to his ship like I guess if he was able to pull it off I reckon he would have done it yeah I I mean how's he gonna kill them all there's no way he had to know that there was no way he must know that they have he must know they have stun guns as well right well no no no because he scopes in on the guy who has a gun well okay so if you see someone with a stun gun that might indicate but he doesn't know how tough or weak these jars are in fact jars seem to have a reputation of being cowardly because that's the way they act and so I think he could feel justified with the he has taken on seasoned you know people and beat them there's like 50 of them there's so many yeah but they're they're a little and weak and they just he's on there he's on their sandcrawler where does he expect to even work it goes badly for him and he fails yeah because it was a really bad idea I'm willing to move on yeah I'm fine I didn't mean to discuss this in this detail but I still I'm still definitely being critical of him for his I mean there's more anyway for this moment first of all his fall his fall is pretty significant his fall could have easily killed him yeah that one I agree and I find it really odd it's like that happened in everywhere and you just kind of accept that these are heroic characters that can survive more damage we don't know what medical things but I just want to say that I think what he did was valid and it doesn't undermine making me an idiot especially in the sense that he's angry and he could have very well been thinking as he's trying to climb up it's like alright I'm in over my head maybe I've bitten off more than I can chew which he clearly did but he was committed by that point and so he was like I'm just gonna go with it and I know I've done that when I've made I don't know I feel like but that just adds him to be incompetent and he's like I'm just gonna commit to this terrible plan well it still might have worked he didn't know that it would fail if it's a yeah I feel like committing to a terrible plan if he acknowledges it some cost fallacy you know like he's like fuck I guess I gotta see it through and then of course because he knows because he knows that there's tracks on this thing too it's just even if he knew that it was gonna be harder than he expected because he's committed he could still feel I'm still gonna try and pull it off and I think that's something that many people do I know I've found myself in a situation of life where I've tried to stop him getting off more than I can chew but I commit to it because there's still a chance I could pull it off it is a fallacy though it's the sub cost fallacy at what point does the season I'm not saying it's the best option no no I didn't yeah yeah yeah yeah we get that yeah it's just that as a bounty hunter he of all people should really be tuned into sunk cost like this is something that he would be dealing with all the time how many times does he have to do something foolish and stupid until I'm like man this guy's just awful I don't think this one qualifies as actually being foolish and stupid I think this is something intelligent people can resort to very easily by emotion and anger it's his favorite ship yeah this doesn't make him an idiot yeah and I I think that I like there's a comment in the chat Mando can be imperfect but it could be done in a way that doesn't make him look like he's new to the job and I agree wholeheartedly with that I really would and again I didn't mean to have this be a huge tangent but man it's like it's one thing after the other with this Mando guy I think rags a molar are losing credibility with the nitpicking have you seen this show before like this yeah like yeah so yeah I was just gonna say moving on I think it's ridiculous the foley takes but fine I'll let that go I think it's ridiculous they don't scavenge his armor after he's killed a whole bunch of them yeah they just leave like they know he's stunned they watch him fall down and they're not they just leave that he can survive to hunt them down another day they just don't do anything I will see I think this one you could defend it like sometimes people just want to lick their wounds even when after the one and yes they could rob the guy or do so whatever they want I do agree that it's probably a bit more out of character with Jala specifically because they're known for scavenging everything but what do they know about Mandalorians how long is he gonna be knocked out just keeps just keep hitting him well the thing is for all they know he you know could be stunned days or whatever and they get closer and then few other ones are gonna die he's killed several already and so even if there's a small risk factor and they are cowardly that's any number of them could die again because they were forced to he was chasing them but now they're free and now they don't have to risk any more lives I think like this one isn't a strong point of criticism when it can be justified that they it's time to lick their wounds they don't want to risk getting more lives and they are cowardly by nature that makes sense I don't think it makes any sense at all I mean like I see your point but the idea that they have all all of these guys have shot him with stun guns they watch him freak out they watch him fall back and land on the ground far below and he's just laying there and he doesn't have his like and they just leave like that seems extremely weird for Joel was to do with his armor and with the fact that he's killed him at this point you could kill him like at the very least they could have put the thing into reverse and backed over him because being knocked out the length of time being knocked out is arbitrary for whoever the writer wants and so if they decided to back it up they just would have made it that his armor prevented a lot of the stunning all down the way because when he's at the top there is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 Jawas that's stun him at once do you say we're not sure of how long it took for him to wake up no I think that's just going to make him knocked out for as long as they need him to be knocked out if he got knocked out they can back for him it's an arbitrary thing to criticise if they try to run him over they'll just say Beskar's pretty damn good at blocking those things but now they have established it so they should be consistent with it if he ever has to get stun shots again but there's a lot of ways in which it could have been written to avoid it but I agree there is a question mark I agree that Jawas, it's not a big one though for me they ran away a few of them died, tumbled with their wounds they got most of the scrap they wanted it's not you know this isn't criticising the story for being unrealistic this is don't like what he did fine but ease off of it is this a criticise of just disliking how he acted though or is it more like in service of he's not that great about it I've been listening to all these arguments I just think he acted like an idiot in this scene so I don't think it's an idiot I think it wasn't the best thing he could have chosen but it's far from blatantly stupid I feel like it's the worst the helmet is and he has a bunch of durasteel on him and he has all the gadgets and stuff on him they know he's got a rifle somewhere oh yeah he's not wearing the best car good point, good point but the thing is I guess when I think about all of his options this feels like the worst because when I think of things that he could have done he could have done nothing and followed them to where they stopped for the night to try and get it back and shot his cindiary ammo with one of the wheels to make it so that the vehicle couldn't move anymore well no no there's no guarantee that he did try and shoot the thing and it did nothing did he try and shoot the ship? he shot the back of it one time and then gave up after that I'm pulling it up I think sending a shot to try and stop them from completely dismantling his ship to nuts and bolts is perfectly fine they're stripping my ship I need to stop the damage before it becomes irreparable or so bad that I won't be able to fix it with 2 weeks work or whatever and health and stuff he was actually hoping that it would still fly he tried to get it to fly when he went back so the fact that he wanted them to stop stripping the ship as soon as possible is a very valid option to resort to shooting right away yeah sure but when he jumps onto it it's like you're not going to be able to take all this back to your ship because again he would have to kill them all yeah sure I think he's more than willing to and he doesn't know that he would be able to I don't think it's possible I think he could have been thinking alright I'm pretty over my head but let's keep going because he killed a lot of them pretty easily already and so he was sniping them at a distance yeah but even when he's trying to climb up he pulls several out of their hatches I think he only pulls one out no no more than one I'm pretty sure let me check I'm pretty sure it was more than one I think he pulls one we even see it hit the ground yeah but I remember seeing more than one fall so but it doesn't really matter but still he killed several in his beginning of his attempt to get rid of them I'm just rewatching the scene yeah he kills three of them and then he puts down his gun and then he runs down this is so he runs down he doesn't make any attempt to stop the he doesn't make any attempt to sabotage the vehicle it's funny that they're throwing junk at him right and then one comes out and prods him they're trying to prod him and so the fact that they're throwing bricks and stuff does mean that their stun guns aren't long range and if you only saw one he might be assuming that they're not you know heavily armoured with like lots of weapons and stuff and so from his frame of mind he is I think it's valid enough for him to assume that they don't have lots of weapons up top because as you've been throwing bricks at him basically and so as soon as he gets up he could upload he does throw his second one off okay so yeah he throws two yeah he throws a second one off right before ten of them all shoot him with stun guns at once yeah and he pulled out his gun and so he could have been expecting that they just had bricks and scrap that they were throwing at him and he could have just offloaded his gun on him or threatened saying I'm gonna kill you all unless you give my stuff back that's a valid thing and in that sense he technically succeeded if his assumption was that they didn't have the stun guns and how many stun guns was he justified in assuming that they had did he even see one like that could have been a surprise he saw there were ten I mean he might he probably might have countered individually but there was ten up there right in front of him so yeah yeah but if he was assuming that they didn't have the stun guns technically what he was trying to achieve he succeeded in what he was trying to achieve yeah he successfully climbed up to the top pulled out his gun ready to threaten them at gunpoint to give him his stuff back and then they stun him because he miscalculated that they had stun guns and that's valid enough if you didn't see them having the guns but he already saw them with guns through his scope well I'm gonna check I'm gonna check because it's also how many guns because I mean if he sees one with a gun there's no way he's like ah it's probably the only gun they have well what like was he expecting ten to be up there I think this is gun in his holster even though he fell and dropped it because they're not they're certainly not firing back when he starts shooting at them and I there's only one with a stun gun that was hanging at their side and there was a lot outside if he's assuming that's the entire crew all one is firing back actually but then he kills it so he killed one of the ones one of the only ones with a gun actually and so he could assume that they that's a valid assumption they have no more guns if that's their entire crew that was stripping the ship there's like 13 I don't know why the idea of making an assumption that that's all the people stripping is all the people he could see and that there weren't any guns on board and they didn't have a bunch of guns stored like that's a huge assumption to be making that's a valid like they want to strip their scavengers they want to strip the ship as soon as if they want to strip the ship as soon as possible you would assume that the entire crew is working on it to get it done fast and get it on board sure I just I find it unbelievable that he would think that they have no guns their scavengers well if he sees their whole crew and it's a safe assumption that it was their whole crew for just a piece of information they're using ion blasters which is what they used to disable droids is what they do with R2 in New Hope yeah and if he speaks to Jarvis surely he knows enough about Jarvis to know that that's something they do I don't think there's massive failings in logic here because there are valid enough assumptions he can make from what he's seeing if that's the whole crew of the ship and only one of them currently has a gun which he kills and it makes sense that the whole crew would be trying to strip the ship before the owner comes back then they get on board and then he thinks he could take him on and threaten them to give him his stuff back that's fine for me I mean I'm happy to just keep going because again it gets so much worse what is next I like what my dose just says how common are frogs in a desert oh yeah because we saw frogs and then it was like there's not water here why is desert frogs clearly guys desert frogs again this is just a tiny thing but how did the dude know where the jar was where I assume they follow the tracks yeah that has to be it yeah okay okay because the other thing that we observed when we rewatched was if they have a circuit Nick Nolte was really dumb for not pointing that out to Mando like hey the jar was come this way some review ship so they must have followed the tracks I was surprised that he like happily gives up his weapons to essentially barter with them with how easily they can fuck him up and then he should just play throw at them anyway and he's lucky that doesn't screw up everything for him he technically still had a weapon so he didn't give up maybe he was relying on his flamethrowers it would be one or the other right like as in the criticism would either be he gave up all of his weapons when they are quote-unquote his religion but he didn't find but it's like also then wouldn't that fuck up everything with the jar was wouldn't they be like motherfucker you just fired fire in us what the hell let's say he scorches like six of them at once he knows the others are right there yeah like this is this is his favorite ship he's ticked off I was like yeah he's angry I mean I want to try and get past episode 2 because I just want to get to the bigger stuff especially episode 4 like I'm looking forward to getting to 4 cause 4's where it all falls apart so I guess we skip to the mudhorn battle his approach is so this is kind of what I mean like every time he does not every time right a lot of the times when he has like a thing to achieve or just an event to sort out I always I'm just sitting there raising an eyebrow like why was this your plan like he has to he doesn't check the cave from like a distance with his scanners or anything like his heat sensor on his helmet he just goes in with like a torch well his helmet he has the ability we know he has thermals he uses them in episode 5 yeah only so he can pick up heat signatures but at what range and what will block it um if he can do it at extremely long distances it will definitely work very close up in the dark apparently amphibians in the desert is a thing I had no idea there we go desert frogs I don't carry the way this is fine keep going his approach seems strange he's not using all of his tools to the best use as far as I can tell he walks in with a flashlight looking around instead of using the thermal vision that we know he has and all this stuff that he has the ability to see through walls and listen to people through walls but he doesn't he just goes in with a flashlight and gets ambushed by it and I'm just I wonder if this is um a disconnection in directing that um you know and I'm not excusing it but it's perfect like because it makes much more sense that thermal they didn't have thermals in that you know context which is obviously why because yeah why wouldn't you use the thermals if you had them um and then someone latest gives him thermals because he's got a mask and that must have taken it without well you think you'd be like I like you very well might be right is that is the reason I mean we've seen what a lack of consistent vision can do to star wars as a trilogy and you you would think that they would have all the people that they know are going to be directing the episode or they have like a sheet they give to everybody and say all right here this is his equipment that we've established he has this is the knowledge he has here's who he is so make use of it and if he doesn't then that's just an issue like there should be consistency um yeah it's definitely a problem in consistency and it almost gets them killed all right all right so this is me being this is like being the the nerd defense going too far but still what if what if the mad horn is cold-blooded or something I don't know I mean it's been I'm happy to say it's presented even if it's cold-blooded he'll still be able to make out the shape really can you is that how thermals work yeah if you have never used them yeah you could like tell the difference in like objects even if they're like if like if you're in a walk into a room with room temperature desk and TV and everything you could still make out objects look at this it's funny how molla brings up points and then when they prove it incorrect he says the thing he was wrong about doesn't even matter what are you basing this off a frog okay I didn't know frogs lived in the desert but if you remember I said yeah I said so frogs in desert question mark I did it like a question I didn't say it's impossible for frog to be in desert when did I say that and I said that it doesn't matter it's a fucking frog it's an alien world what do you mean frogs don't matter wow wow okay I'm sorry I didn't mean that all species are beautiful of course yeah I would just rather kick on like because these things are just yeah I think this is a pretty obvious this one's a small one I reckon it doesn't make it immediate it leads to him nearly dying and having to be saved by baby Yoda yeah but I reckon even if they gave him thermal stuff like that of course they're gonna have him nearly dying because that's what they want in the narrative for a baby Yoda that's not a reason though I don't know it doesn't excuse it but the thing is I'm not sure him nearly dying is a result of stupidity because that's a really tough one to fight well no it's stupid that he walks into a dark cave knowing he has like thermals and night vision right like that's just that's really really stupid yeah probably yeah there was many other there's a lot of other easy ways to kill the thing did he know what he was getting into what he was about to fight apparently not I can't tell even if anything you think the Jawa's would cause he doesn't know you think they tell him though because they want him to succeed right or they want to screw him over and they like watching him they can't watch this they're not he travels too far away from to watch it I'm reaching for the sake of it I was gonna say I'm happy to just kick on cause these is just ruining episode 2 these things are important to me to establish if he is legitimately dumb or not and I'm interested to see alright because I actually don't mind a protagonist who's a bit stupid and fails a bit because if they have other characters it makes them good at the moment I don't think it's an idiot he almost dies here because of a very basic mistake basic yes he's walking into a dark cave you have thermals and night vision I wanna process it cause if he knew what he was getting into obviously it almost gets him killed he has to get saved by a baby Yoda for this that's the thing I don't consider this because it leads to him basically almost getting killed and he has to get saved by a baby Yoda if it wasn't for the consequences I would agree it's a nitpick to a degree but this is stuff that I'm gonna kill and I think my thing about saying it would happen anyway that's a disadvantage so I think there's more validity to the stupidity of this point and I actually think there's probably more for this one than the Jawa one if I'm really trying to break it down next one? I do know what you mean though and if I was in your position I think that I would probably say having it be covered in mud would obscure it even then that's reaching super far but at least that's something yeah but it's not much you can do with that I don't think my point is to have people watching is that my whole role here is I'm the only one willing to defend it so I'm gonna try and play devil's advocate even on things that I think are very indefensible and then after we test any possible defenses if you guys can count it which I think it did in this mud old one I'll probably agree with you I think this is one of those times where yeah this one's a bit harder to defend someone in chat said but we don't know that Mando has it yet it doesn't matter because Mando knows he has it but it could be explained if he legitimately didn't have it until the upgrades if that would be really cool I know Mahler and I were talking about this and Fringy as well where we thought from the beginning maybe he thought this as well but he would slowly but surely get his armor and equipment as time went on you know not just like oh it's a video game you know so that would have been cool if he gets night vision and then starts to use it and Fringy said earlier about the pacing is really quick I think that would be nifty because a part of a bounty hunter's like his thing is his gear so having him earn gear through missions and get it from the fellow Mandalorians and stuff and then seeing him use it that could be the entirety of season 1 leading up to him finding baby Yoda and then making the decision to kill IG-11 and then it's like oh shit like we've seen Mando for a whole season being of single mind I want to get my armor I want to get my things I'm finding my armor set I'm a really good bounty hunter and then you see him make an emotional decision it's like oh shit and then you continue from there there's what I mean I really would have liked this show to have been just a little bit well a lot different I guess at this point I didn't mind the progression of his armor and equipment and stuff that he got the armor it was just really quick I mean it's not like a big issue but I think that it goes it's under I file it under my wasted potential thing and I'm not going to hold this show like it's not a negative on the show because it was something else but I feel like they could have done a lot better with the progression so would it answer your objection here though if he actually did not have the thermal scanning stuff on his in his helmet at that point I'm sorry say that one more time would that answer your criticism here if you legitimately didn't have the thermal scanning stuff at that point I'm pretty sure it's on the scope of his rifle as well isn't it he uses it none of it is new equipment that he acquires later it could be retconned even say if it was right the fact that it isn't mentioned in the show is a problem with the writing I'm not excusing it because the fact that whenever the audience needs to step outside of what is actually said and shown in the show to explain things to make things work is a problem that's not good writing if he didn't have thermals and if they didn't establish he had all this stuff then I still don't think I still think that he should have done stuff like create a distraction maybe don't leave baby Yoda sitting right outside the cave stuff like that have a plan don't just go in there with a flashlight just to push us on one shot from that rifle would kill that thing and his gun jams because there's mud on it very unlucky yep I think most people here cast an audience alike will find it a little tough to believe that that knife kills the thing it's got a pretty big yeah I would have liked it to have been longer so penetrated deep but you think something that big unless you hit something massively vital to drop it which again would be really lucky if that happened it's like wow pretty lucky that you hit the one thing that killed it instantly again that one is a small thing I admit it's a valid criticism but like yeah okay it's someone saying using a rifle in a cave and looking through a scope is stupid it's like you could move forward use the scope and look around also we know that the scope detaches from the rifle he uses and I can just show you I'm showing chat the shots now so obviously it'd be the entrance of the cave he'd use it and then as he progresses you can see the space like back here like so look at this shot I'll even send it to you guys this is him entering in episode 5 I can give the picture of him using thermals lots of space to be using it as he approaches you know so I like I still think the mud for horn fight is enjoyable because he's struggling he's getting knocked around and and even if he's in a dangerous situation arbitrarily and it isn't justified he is in a dangerous situation which causes suspense and you don't want the hero to die and things and then there's a twist with the baby Yoda thing and the CG was flawlessly done all the mud and yet some indication of what the armour can take how much of a hit it bends but it protects him to some extent and so even with the flaws I still think that scene is enjoyable in the fight I see why but I still think it's I still I couldn't enjoy it because I think man he has taken some insane hits it even hits him in the helmet with its horn as it's charging I think it's yeah but still like if someone's wearing a helmet you get hit with a hammer smacked on the side of the head like yeah okay but this is a heroic show and it almost takes like an established thing in all shows that the heroes can always take a bit more damage and I will point it out as being unrealistic and I do that in my own reviews yet I happily accept it as part of a heroic trope that they can just take more damage because it's in a fantasy level. That's just explaining why it's bad no no no but it's if these are supposed to be heroes that can take more damage than the average person and they can keep fighting and everything I don't know is it plot armor or are heroes legitimately tired of every person I don't agree yeah I don't agree well my my view is I think this is a kind of it's not really like when you talk about a video game it makes sense because you'll be like well there's gameplay concessions that you have to make but like in the context of the universe you know when you play Uncharted yeah you're stronger than the villains but you're not actually like you know like in the context of the story that's ludonarrative dissonance yeah that's like a meta thing that this is the protagonist it's a meta thing it's outside of the universe no no no but but yeah it's meta but it's actually an established thing in heroic stories that the hero is always I'm not gonna agree with you on this I don't agree I can't subscribe to this one you don't get a special pass on surviving stuff because you're a protagonist well hang on then you should apply this criticism to nearly every single yeah it's always shit when it happens so you criticize it much like because there are so many hits it depends on the degree it's always a problem in terms of the scale in terms of the scale the rhino hitting Mandalorian is on par but nowhere near as bad as so many other sure and when I brought that point up it wasn't like a be-all end all of why I didn't like that fight it's just one aspect of it because I admit it's unrealistic don't get me wrong absolutely but we see it all the time and so if we're gonna say this is an episode breaking thing well that means so much pop culture it needs to be criticized better I agree I think it should be done better but at the same time like Jackie Chan fight scenes the amount of times he gets hit right I'm willing to you know suspend my disbelief that he can survive all these hits for the sake of a longer fight scene and see him doing lots of cool kicks happy to do every fight would be analyzed based on the specifics of that fight sure it depends on the scale of the problem but before I forget everyone his thermals are not the scope he uses an episode 5 he uses the thermals to look for the do-back after they capture the sniper lady he does not use the scope he uses his thermals in episode 3 as well in episode 3 when he's eavesdropping the scope right or am I wrong here like I posted in chat like that's not him using a scope that's just him using his visor my impression was that it's kinda like how it's canonized in Halo where when you scope in the idea is that the scope is projected against the HUD like as in if Master Chief aims his weapon inside of his helmet it projects the scope onto his HUD I assume that was the same for Mando the scope thing he doesn't need the scope to have thermal vision and night vision okay this point is done if you defend this you're just stop I get the devil's advocate thing but come on guys there's a point where you gotta be like we have all the references and everything here I like this shot with the puny knife he doesn't have thermals yet are you puny knife yo you see it it's a very little knife again this is a this would be a nerd defence and I wouldn't say it's too bold to be any level of valid but clearly the vibrations when you stab into someone they protect you another meeker into the flesh it's a special knife it's a plus 10 to mudhorn damage now the thing is that could be valid if they actually showed it but because there's no indication at all that these knives protect a deeper penetrating you know stab when they into something we can only go off the length that it's betrayed and that's that's a very southpaw just said Iron Man 1 Tony gets blast out of the sky by a tank plummet so the ground survives walks it off like it was nothing yeah that's bad yeah bad okay but again this is no no no like it's good to bring up other examples because there are some times I feel that for the sake of making something enjoyable in terms of lengthening out a fight scene and having your heroes do remarkable things you can justify certain exceptional even unbelievable feats because I thought that the whole fight scene I had the talent of writing okay so you feel it can be justified then with each individual each individual circumstance needs to be evaluated for the Iron Man example it's like we need to knock him out of the sky it's like can we hit him with a tank shell it's like and plummet him into the ground from really high up so no that would kill him we're gonna do something else you don't then go yeah but people will enjoy it it's like of course people people will enjoy Palpatine returning that doesn't mean we there is something there is something that is something that I think people resort to as an easy wait is it he's wearing armor it's space armor okay but Tony's armor doesn't work like that you don't know in the film it falls apart after getting hit by all kinds of different things okay that would be consistent yeah like each individual like we have scenes to establish what are the limits of what a character can take and we base that off of I would agree with you if it was magical armor armor and yeah it's each individual circumstance can be good or bad and then varying degrees of good and bad it's not something that I'm ready to blanket I suppose the problem that I have here is it's all this meta thing of oh well they're the protagonist in the world they are not a protagonist they are one person in the world yeah like the protagonist is the meta so in the world they're not remarkable in the sense that beyond beyond what they can actually do themselves they're not are you talking because it's not it's flashing sorry okay no yeah like in the world they're not remarkable in the sense that the universe itself recognises that they're special you know what I mean no no they are remarkable what I meant no sorry let me clarify what I meant was they're not remarkable beyond things that they themselves can do what I mean is that the universe is not like Mandalorian he's the protagonist of this story so he can do these things he's gonna be okay it would only be Mandalorian can do the things that he can do because he learns how to or he's predisposed to it or something like that the fact that they're the hero or the villain shouldn't be relevant no no no because I think absolutely because they become the hero usually by ability, competence that they're stronger, tougher than the other people I'm just imagining things that you shouldn't be able to survive isn't isn't like competence I fully agree that there comes a level where it goes too far so I'm not saying that he should be invincible in any measure but I'm saying that in this context here he's got the armor, he's a tough you know Mandalorian with all this years training and stuff like that alright I'm fine he survived it I'm starting to get actually like I'm reading the chat now and I'm just like so what I'm trying to explain is that the idea of they're the protagonist of the story so it makes it's acceptable that they can do certain things when I say that the universe doesn't recognize that they're the protagonist what I mean is that there is nothing in the story that is this person is the main character of a narrative that is happening and that is the reason why they are able to do things the whole idea is that anything that they can do is justified in the universe itself within the story not from outside the story not from the POV of they're the main character they're the protagonist they're the hero or something like that I feel like this is clear but maybe it's not I think it is connected when you're trying to say the universe can't acknowledge it is contradicted by the fact that the universe is literally created for this hero's journey and so that's an open admission yeah the universe is created by the writer it's like a chicken and egg argument that's hard to try and delineate what I mean is like the idea is that when you're partaking in a story you're not meant to be thinking this was written by somebody this was fabricated it's kind of like talking about the second world yeah you want to but there's a thing you want to fool the audience that's not it like the thing is all stories are contrived no matter what but the goal of good writing is to make it appear that it's not yeah but giving giving protagonist special privileges does the opposite it makes it hang on they're always going to have special privilege no what do you mean by that like that's not true the entire plot is structured around their journey their story and so the plot is entirely arbitrary okay maybe I went too far when I said special privileges but what I'm saying is that the plot is always constructed around that character and your goal is to try and make it seem like this is a natural story following and the more realistic you make it the more believable you can that means not giving people special abilities and survivability and contrivences and armor because of protagonist Mandalorian has those things by default for the nature of the story he should have those things because of training equipment armor not because he's the protagonist well no it's both because it shouldn't be both the protagonist part shouldn't even factor into it at all what do you mean of course it can't I didn't say it can't I didn't say it clearly does that's what my problem is sorry I think I was agreeing then he shouldn't have you don't get special plot armor and everything you don't get special this that and the other thing because you are the protagonist I agree I think but one of the main reasons you give characters special things that should be justified with background and training is because they're the protagonist and trying to deny I think I think it's better to think about it but the reason why they justify Mandalorians additional abilities with the training background and everything is because of the protagonist I think that's self evident in many instances not in all instances but in many instances you do want your protagonist to be special or more capable I think it's viewing from the narrative I agree completely yes and not because they're the protagonist if you're going to follow the story they are the protagonist because they have these things it's the other way well again I think chicken and egg argument in this instance I don't think it's the chicken and egg because the idea is like IE it's the same for your catalyst for the story where you have a big coincidence that happens and then it thrusts them on the adventure you could look at it from the perspective of wow it's quite interesting that the protagonist happened to stumble into this coincidence that kicked off the story but it's more from the other way round of the reason why we're focusing on this character is because this remarkable thing happened to them that kicked off the story I don't think it's the chicken and the egg I think it's the idea is that you've selected that this is the protagonist and this is the things that they have like the reason why you pick them as the POV character for the story is because in the context of the world that they live in they have these abilities and chat you don't pick a protagonist generally in writing you create one and then you create them but what I mean is that if you're viewing it externally and you're viewing it in the sense that if this were a real scenario this character who exists was picked by the sort of I guess the omniscient creator of the story because it works well if you know what I mean like yeah they're created but that's the illusion that they're not created that's the illusion that the whole narrative is trying to create we're getting caught in my nutia because I guess bringing it back to the thing look I agree it's a stretch but it's not it's not an episode breaking thing and I enjoyed the fight scene because he did struggle he got beaten up a bit he survived and he needed help it's definitely not the biggest problem but like I guess to put a cap on it like if your reason for something happening is because because they are the protagonist like you're gonna have to do better than that like there needs to be yeah I agree and the inworld justification is his armor that the armor protected him and could the armor truly protect him in real life probably not but space armor it's one thing of pity but I get it yeah so I do get that much and I would like to point out in chat someone said MCU rags think about Hawkeye and Black Widow and what they somehow survive yeah those are issues that's a problem so again this is when we cover videos in EFAP the whole what about ism when we talk about oh yeah well in something else you have to have a problem with something I probably do right so to say that of all the things that I'm saying and then bring up Hawkeye and Black Widow and what they survive is like yeah those can both be problems we're talking about this though also I'm not different people like why aren't I talking it's like I mean there's nothing for me to add the argument was being had I didn't need to add anything I was happy to listen like don't worry I'm not dead sometimes I'm just like EFAP chat I listen what have you said that smart rags the whole ludonarrative dissonance when we talk about video games the whole idea of when you play on sharded and you can take down a hundred dudes but in a cut scene two guys have guns on you and you just surrender it's like it's one of those things where you just have to go well it's a video game but I think I think you can apply video games I don't judge video games in the same way no I don't either because they have to be interactive and if the interactive and if the challenge and part of it is you have to fight a hundred dudes but then you have some games where the main character is totally vulnerable and then it's a different thing the gameplay is generally based around that but if we didn't have that in video games you would have to be as good as a navy seal to actually play Call of Duty in a way which is just not a feasible thing to do for these games for being interactive so I hope that explains it but yeah it's an interesting topic I guess episode 2 I enjoyed it it's one of the better ones I'd say it's certainly one of the better ones it's funny someone else in chat pointed out you guys are ignoring the larger issue here how does this creature exist at this size with no foliage in a desert planet I think I mentioned that it's an alien thing who knows how it lives it's called a mud horn it eats mud alright and you can get nutrients and break it down that's it's food and it's supposed to be larger like this somebody had a the big question I have why the hell does the egg have fur yeah that's that's weird unless there's anything significant for episode 2 we've gotta push on yeah let's go I wanna I want people to be aware yeah I want people to be aware the issues in 4 compared to 1, 2 or 3 are staggering we really need to get there yeah we thought we'd blow through these fucking hell I guess because this is the thing I think a lot of the things in especially early episodes and maybe even some of the other ones can be defended or aren't as big and when put in I guess comparison weight to the really bad stuff I generally find that the good stuff outweighs it overall and it's still mostly good it's fun it's enjoyable not to excuse the bad when it's there that's what I've said from the beginning some of the bad can get really bad but I think the first 3 episodes especially with the level of discussion we were able to go into means I think the decent amount when it is good is you can the bad parts are not nearly as bad and easily I've looked at is there anything else for the episode 2 I don't think so no did we have a problem with them being able to fix the ship because I was willing to buy it they fixed it very quickly it was a montage and we don't know how long essentially well it all happened it all was at night time until they were done and it was day so if it was over the course I didn't assume it was a single night yeah it's not a big deal I was just wondering if anyone had an issue with it I'm fine with it because sure Quill's amazing I'm fine to buy that yeah so yeah I guess as a reference to what we were talking about earlier just walking through the town with the bounty that everybody's currently chasing and apparently Will apparently betray each other for it's just a bit of a risk there unless there is that stronger rule that once you're in the location where the guild is no guns out it would only be harder for people to get away with it that close to guild HQ yep yeah but still I would really be on my toes either it's just to me it's a bit risky because of that is an extremely valuable bounty and he doesn't even have the cover on which I find I'm just like careful man well hang on they would only know it's a bounty if they are actively using the fobs to track yeah but everybody yeah you could assume most of the bounty hunters are trying to find them they all are off-planet off-planet looking for them well that's a thing if fobs have the range limitation no they're there because it walks in the bar and they're all there well they all look at him and they know that that's the bounty that I run yeah Carl explicitly says I gave him to all and he looks at everybody and says it out loud so everybody can hear all of them yeah and then at the end when he captures it back we reactivate and everybody starts going on yeah good point sorry I've got it directly someone in the chat keeps saying that rags and I hate this show and are trying to make everybody hated and then we came into what is a hater and that that's our goal can you just know do you not remember us defending the show we literally said at the beginning that we really like the first few episodes when we watched them and we were on this show's side so just I thought I made a mistake no ascribing motivations don't do it we don't hate it and look for reasons we see the reasons and that's why we hate it at least give us the benefit of the doubt that we're not trying to pull the wool over your eyes we went back to watch episodes one and two because we thought they were the good ones and we wanted to affirm that but it just didn't happen we rewatched all of this stuff they're still the better ones I would call episode one and two good I wouldn't but they're the best I think I'd call episode one good just like yeah it's hittering in actual fact I would consider them really good when I look at it broadly with especially production values and stuff like that yeah we gotta keep going keep going for being very very covid the troopers don't seem to mind walking outside of the hidey hole I don't know what to think of that walk out and yeah they just walk right out into the street with their armor they don't have anybody to check who's not wearing armor seems like a really dumb thing to do if that's risky on ours unless there was something that I worried about and then it's passed but you'd still think if someone would be wearing stormtrooper armor it's not explained but at the same time it doesn't need to be because it's so small they're trying to hide but they do something that actively contradict not a big point where is it established that they are trying to hide apart from staying inside why wouldn't they be trying to hide aren't they I don't know I hate the galaxy they're at odds with the guild well it's still an assumption I mean if this is a cluted planet they could then and so they were inside for some reason which isn't defined and then they're outside for another and so again it's like because you could explain a reason that they are hiding for whatever reason but that's the same as me trying to make up a defense for something that isn't explained in world so it goes both ways I guess I think it makes sense in a more obvious contextual way that they would be trying to hide because this is different to trying to look at expanded universe because this is like the main saga stuff the idea that this is the the empires ended they were underground they're on some different planet I guess you think that they would be a little bit more it's not too big a deal it's not like a big deal but I would be like I would be certainly hiding I would be want to keep keeping a low profile mm-hmm notice they don't even tell for instance they don't even tell Carl Weathers that they are imperial for him to tell people they discover it face to face when they go to the their imperial HQ someone asked it's not an imperial contract it's listed as like a private client thing I thought Carl knew they were imperials and he just didn't tell Manda he did yeah Carl knew he didn't tell people who were given the contracts that they had to go there personally he wasn't just telling people but again it's a little thing I think it's unusual not a big deal we can move on uh yeah he says that uh the reason he'd given out the um the bounty to so many people was because he had to ensure its delivery I just find that interesting it's like it's a bit risky because you're sending so many people who are unaware of each other after it yeah I would agree with that one I would think you would actually getting this target by hiring the one best bounty hunter at a higher chance and then by hiring additional people you're just sending people to get in his way a big group meeting where you're like hey guys so you're all going for this bounty just you know keep an eye out for each other okay don't kill each other right I gotta just check this really quickly someone said I really hope they show the scene where the thermals are clearly only his scope at a thermal no that is wrong season one episode five in the dark I can give you a time yeah he did bring this up before I have the fucking screen caps in our chat of it you're wrong if you think that only the scope has thermals we need the nail in the coffin 20 I have I won't believe you rags until I see it with my own eyes 21 minutes he sees the zoo back the zoo bat he doesn't even have his rifle with him in this scene and he's not using the scope either um so stop it stop it he says the Mandalorians are rarer than best car itself which is interesting to sort of consider alongside the position of the Mandalorians in this place just a casual thought in relation to how how secretive they need to be um and for me it added to the idea that Mandalorians would be very protective of their own numbers one of them in this and the third episode here even comments on how we used to be numerous now we're hiding not that many of us you know so it would give the idea that they would really want to protect their numbers because there's not many of them uh okay oh yeah these are the things we've brought before about uh the Mandalorians themselves um it's weird that when he gets into a fight with the Mandalorian he keeps like stabbing at the armor like slashing his armor he takes his knife and slashes across the chest plate unusual maybe they weren't trying to kill each other maybe they were just trying to spook each other like for instance hema when you spar you're sparring protective gear and landing a hit is a victory and so they don't want to kill each other but showing that I can actually still tag you and it's a one-up yeah I can believe it yeah that makes sense because there's not many of them they probably don't actually want to kill each other he clearly slashes with a knife and I'm going to be on a shed it fucking bugs the shit out of me how in video games and movies daggers are used to slash it bugs me but yeah this is just I yeah that makes a lot of sense to me that's fair enough um um let me see what I have episode three oh he doesn't lock his ship when he comes back again um what in episode three is when is it yeah because Carl Weathers gets onto it he's on he's on board does Carl know how to pick a lock I don't know but you'd still think that you would assume that it would be secured and locked and it would and that he just was able to hack in or break the door lock maybe but he specifically tells Quill to like initiate lockdown mode and the general defense apart from just yeah but like always do that always yeah always well hang on hang on no because you would only do that if everyone's a hostile and therefore anyone approaching it was going to get shot what if a kid approached it you wouldn't want that well they would just lock down you couldn't get in well it possibly could have been we don't know and that yeah you want to lock it down so no one did you have it did you have a droid that can hack in because droids can always open the ship he can unlock it yeah I'm talking about Carl when he well I'm talking about an episode we might be talking about two different things in episode seven he specifically tells Quill to get into the ship and like lock it up like super tight defensive mode right like that should be the default thing well no because that I thought that the super defensive mode implied that it's going to shoot anyone over approaches with what he has guns on the ship well yeah but they only point forwards well uh yeah do they have how is it going to shoot someone how's the ship going to shoot itself or like people well I mean it's funny right like I was kind of when I when I when I heard full defensive mode I was kind of thinking this isn't shown so I have no validity in saying this is what would have happened right is that a gun turret would have popped up that rotated because spaceships seem to always have hidden guns everywhere we see on the millennium falcon where a gun just pops down from the other thing and then points to people and fires at and stuff like that are we going to keep Carl Weathers off the ship later this episode but he doesn't do it but that would have prevented him from thinking under the ship if he had yeah I know I know right but um Mandalorian he uh and we're like how aware was he that that was going to happen when he landed the ship that should be the default when he landed the stuff is no no no because if you have automatic fire on thing and these there are families and kids in this um settlement what I don't know where this fire is coming from well that's the thing I like I like again I don't have any justification for it but I guess we'll have to fight it but I would almost expect there is a hidden turret a hidden automatic turret that pops out of the ship to fire on people is a really assumption that's based on nothing it you're absolutely right except that we have seen it in Star Wars before on the Millennium Falcon and someone said you need to be in the ship for full lockdown if that is the case then fair enough and just just on my point we have seen it before though the Millennium Falcon does it and a gun pops out and treats people and so yeah but I yeah but that's the Millennium Falcon we know it has turrets I know it's a stretch but yeah so alright here's my question what would full lockdown do just having it locked I don't know wait so you can see that he should have it locked then yeah so my real point here is the point I'm trying to make is he should have it locked always like when you leave your ship you lock it so people can't just walk in well that's I thought that would be the default and full lockdown would be something that obviously has some measure of additional defense something else like maybe it only responds to that seemed to me that I was just implied by what full lockdown meant and we've never seen it and so because we're not shown what full lockdown is in what it's capable of doing to repel people trying to get on board it or we can assume that it must be something better than just having the ship locked sure I can assume yeah like there's a difference but I'm not ready to jump to the difference is a hidden turret that pops up and shoots well I kind of assume that just because that's what we've seen in Star Wars previously but if not it obviously has to be something point is the point is here lock your doors well my point my point my counterpoint is always really getting that I assume that it was locked not people just walk on board like Carl just walks that's one instance and he could have hacked on because droids can open yeah but that's still going to stuff that there's no scene to support I know I know but it's also implied and shown many times that you can it's implied that he hacks to get in as far as I know he just walks up to it and opens it yeah Mando's not like Mando's not surprised it was like left open I agree but I just can't remember it being left open or not let me go to episode one here and see if he has to do something to unlock look at this one just said please moderate what do we do shut up both of you like no they've got something to talk about they can talk about it yeah I just think it's locked locked your ship use a padlock if you gotta we move in or we not alright I think it's a tad risky of him to advertise his best car armor as he does in the cantina I understand that it's obviously a deterrent to try and shoot at him because his best car armor but at the same time it's like wearing a golden suit or something of a very valuable set piece and I'm just like careful but but would he ever not wear it and I mean yeah he's kind of you could probably cover some of it with some cloak or poncho I don't know I think part of the thing about whole Mandalorian is presenting that I'm a Mandalorian it's almost a part of their religion that they I mean I'm willing to accept that I just if I was a friend of his I'd be like dude be careful maybe I don't know I would have been good to have a light or something like that and then he's just like no this is my honor or something like that and shut up I'm wearing it and it's like oh okay then it's funny I have something like that I have something like that in my book where the main character he has a sword that belongs to his well when he was you know like an emperor an evil emperor and it's imperious it's this famous indestructible sword that everyone recognizes and is told like it's actually a conversation in the book saying you're not gonna just walk around with that are you everyone's gonna recognize it and so and there goes and this isn't this is just me thinking right at what point does a culture's culture become so counterproductive and potentially self-destructive that you ditch it or cultural ties are very like I know that yeah but I'm curious to the point of that culture's extinction if we're looking at history I'd say yeah but still I mean at what point are you like yeah maybe this part you know because like Django Fett he could take off his helmet without a problem so there's probably and I'm not discounting any reason why and stuff you know Django wasn't a Mandalorian he was just right oh I had no idea yeah he was not he stole it fair enough all right fair enough then and like I said I'm mostly okay with it it's just just something to think about is like be capable it was just it was just amusing of mine right because later on I agree I think it would be it would add more consistency to what this is implied by having people trying to jump him just to seal the armor because he is wearing gold essentially like more better yeah it's I think it's really interesting because you have the whole don't take your helmet off thing and you can't do this and can't do that and you have to do this and only one person up at a time and they're clearly struggling and a lot of people there's a lot of unrest clearly I'm just like I'm wondering at what point would it take for Mandalorians to be like yeah maybe we could adjust this maybe we could change this and everyone's like oh Islam is like okay I guess no examples to a culture changing to fit anything yeah it's okay I know what happens I know some I know cultures are obviously very deeply ingrained I acknowledge that just amusing just the thought in chat you got in the in the old EU Django and Boba were both Mandalorians in the EU and then soon after you got a Django wasn't even a Mando in the EU I guess chat disagreed somebody's right alright my resources when I did my video on Mandalorian I looked up the Mandalorian I wanted to find out what it was made out of stuff and I listed several times on Wikipedia and at Django and Boba were not Mandalorians yeah that's fine with me well here if they aren't Mandalorians that's fair enough if they are something did change which I'm ready to accept both I'm just bringing it up as a thought it could have been retcons it could have been that they were Mandalorians Mandalor? I don't know about that I like that he got reminded of baby Yoda by going to pull the lever yes I like that the little knob on the I do like that this episode was almost made by the kind of heroic arc of him saying no I'm going to save this little guy's life and that was great and it was portrayed the moment of decision was executed really well for me and I really like this episode as well even if it was for a small well it's not a small reason it's the whole theme of the episode and you're like yeah cool go save him of all the things you could I will say I think your thing is probably going to be more relevant I'm moving on I was going to say in that aspect and I think this is having them it feels rushed as I said in the beginning I'm fine with the idea of him like becoming like a father figure or a savior to baby Yoda I do feel with only eight episodes and some of them having nothing to do with the plot or advancing it in any way they kind of rushed that a bit I really wish we got more development on that I really wish we got more justification for why did he choose baby Yoda when it turns out that his actions there got the Mandalorians killed and caused all these problems and hang on are you sure because I thought I was thoroughly justified when you find out that he was essentially the same as baby Yoda he was and he has a soft spot to the family I understand why he did but I think they should have taken they should have taken more time building it up show us what it was like before it would be worth it would make it more interesting to have all this time where he's really hardened and really cold like he was in the first half like he was in episode one when I really liked him and then build up to it and then over time the mystery unravels and it becomes more apparent why he made that decision because we hadn't seen any of the flashbacks it would have been and it was the end of season one everybody would have been like wow holy shit this is not something they would have expected you know what I mean they all didn't die survivors says some may have escaped hang on there was no guarantee that they would have died he had no indication that this action was going to cause the death he had to know you have to move now and his assumption was that they were going to move and be fine and then they just did it so this is shifting a problem from one person to another yeah well it should because if the main character is so crucial to the story you should figure out what is legitimately cold or not this would put him at odds with the guild which would really hurt the reputation of the Mandalorians which would specifically give the empire and the more reason to hunt Mandalorians which I think is interesting because while they used to it's clear that in his name Werner Herzog I forget the name he clearly had some level of connection he wanted to see the Mandalorians succeed in a way but that's gone now essentially because of his betrayal it causes a lot of problems by doing this it does I was half expecting that the other Mandalorians were going to exile him or hunt him down but that's the thing from his perspective that could have been a legitimate outcome and it just goes that it was even a greater risk and even more noble of him to risk so much to save this little guy's life because he's risking his own exile from his religion and people and then luckily for him and I don't think this is a stretch that it was convenient that the Mandalorians showed no we're loyal to our own we're going to protect you and then as a result we need to move and so it wasn't him like saying screw you to his own race because with the intention that now you're going to die I think it was perfectly justified one of the reasons why they should have spent more time is because he has to weigh the people who saved his life who took him in, who trained him, who raised him his family essentially over a creature that he just met I give why he did but I think they really needed to push just like why he weighed one better than the other well for me it was perfectly fine I found the indecision conveyed subtly but powerfully with just his body language and the call back to you know the little knob thing and then it was fully justified when we find out that he was basically the same and so I feel like it's just not potent enough I feel like all you needed to do was take longer with it and give them more and it would have been more potent I feel you couldn't criticise it as an objective fault this would be a subjective thing and for me it was fine yeah I don't think it's objective but I definitely think they could have done it better though I do think the alternative was better yeah I would have been happy to have maybe one or two of many scenes of just him and baby Yoda hanging out yeah exactly maybe like you should just prolong the amount of time I'm not saying it wouldn't improve it but I think the fact that baby Yoda legitimately saved his life was enough to be justified in what he did oh yeah I'm just saying a little more flash is all I'm after that's all and like I get like the stuff Chad's saying like I get that he sees the Foundling thing and Yoda's like I get it I really get it I don't have a problem with and as I see like Mando's protect the round is like sure but to the point like at what point do you say no this is going to ruin everything for everybody personally I'm not a fan of how they protected him despite him like majorly breaking rules like what he did hang on guys he didn't break Mandalorian rules in actual fact it seemed like he was obeying the Mandalorian creed because it's already established that Mandalorians protect younglings so surely that causes them problems a lot in the bounty hunting business it probably does then but how often would Boundlings come up for babies so I wouldn't say well I mean children right Foundlings are children so how often the Boundlings come up for children like probably in North the Star Wars context and I think you could even expand this to the expanded universe I think this is the first one ever portrayed in Star Wars maybe there is a rule that the aunties are not done on children I don't know because this is 50 years old so it's like it's a way to get around the rule that this isn't a child it's 50 years old but in actual fact it is because there is a species yeah my thing is that when does like will you go like is the life of Mando worth all of the stress and the trouble and the danger that comes along to everybody else to protect him it's actually to protect baby Yoda and honestly it makes me like the Mandalorian creator even more that they would risk the lives of their entire clan to save one child that's like that's awesome you guys are boss yeah they're really boss yeah my yeah if we were to reach a core issue it's just they were really crazy to have not have left as soon as possible and I don't believe they would have lost to an army of stormtroopers like even a hundred stormtroopers I feel like they would have annihilated them yeah yeah I agree completely the true criticism that it happens after this is that they don't leave and then they get wiped out and they're so tough it's like what what how did that happen um what I'm gonna say next up is uh Mando is just doing a little detective work spying and um he manages to catch extract the necessary material and be done with it hurry I can't guarantee your safety basically he catches a line that's explicit about Yoda is gonna be killed soon like of all the things he could have heard which would be including and not limited to toilet sounds or people just breathing or just nothing do you remember uh Mola do you remember that episode of community where they're telling halloween stories and then Abed says you know like he turns on the radio I was thinking of that exactly he turns on the radio and they're listening to music for a while it's like well they're not gonna turn it on exactly where the important update is and then Abed and I skip the update it's like according to the update we just heard but not just just heard yeah I love community and you're absolutely right I love that and you're right like if I was say writing this I would have had to have had he was there standing for a while you don't need it it's an easy fix he's already interested in saving baby Yoda because they're gonna do something to him that's not good like he doesn't need this motive he doesn't need to hear them say we're going to kill baby Yoda it's just like no just go get him we all know you want to get him there's a lot of things I could have done to fix what is very clearly at super contrivance well I wouldn't say it's obviously contrivance I would class something as super contrivance if it was crucial to the plot to progress forward and this isn't this is just a thing I guess it confirms something he already did so yeah that's I mean just the going by odds it is like super lucky yeah it's just unlikely that's all what else we got let's see what do we got I mean there was the classic storm troopers missing and like even for me the storm trooper was so close that they still missed and then of course it hits the armor as well but then he does act tough and take him out other ones in like cool tough ways and so there's times in this fight I thought the fights were really tizmy there are times where storm troopers clearly should have shot him but they didn't and also he opens a door and instantly gets shot luckily right in the shoulder it's clearly so we don't feel bad when he kills all of them you dummy I don't think we would have really cared either way what have we felt sorry for storm troopers I didn't need any extra motivation to be like ah not too bad storm troopers die but I do think that and I don't count this against the show because I can't count against the show because it wasn't something that wasn't in there I thought could be better moving on but I would have been really really curious and I kind of wished and I was hoping and I think it would have been better if they spent time and gave us something about storm troopers that makes me go why are they still storm troopers right like the empire has collapsed the empire is very very weak they are that these guys clearly are not well supplied their armor isn't maintained and yet still here they are why are they here why do they still wear the armor why didn't they chuck the armor away and go live a normal life how come they're still going through this is it because they need money is it because they have an ideological reason for it I think it could have been interesting to explore the mind of what happens to storm troopers after the collapse of the empire and what they choose to do I agree actually I find it interesting that storm troopers are still so loyal after the fall you know brainwashing or something yeah yeah exactly so he's like annihilating everybody in this place and I found it really weird that he walks into a room as empty a door opens and he sees two troopers approaching him and he chooses not to shoot them and like this goes on for a little bit and then people turn up behind him and he's like okay guys you know I give up and then he's gonna use his new gadget that he got earlier but it just it just struck me as odd as like why wouldn't he just shoot them why didn't he just shoot them as soon as that door opens there's a lot of those in this episode we see it in later episodes and we highlight it where if you would have just shot the person here it would have been done this happens a lot in later episodes where they just don't shoot he's got the drop on him too and I just don't get it it's a little 10 second but we know why it's there they just wanted to like not excuse it but it's to show the whistling birds look he used a cool thing yeah I was referring to an early part but yeah in those two he's like yeah yeah when enemies pop up on your screen shoot them what else we got so up to now I'm not seeing massive like episode breaking floors there are floors but they're small and they don't ruin the enjoyment for it overall I find I mean I wouldn't call what we've highlighted small but the thing is the things that we've got to highlight to come are so enormous that I wouldn't really care to call these I wouldn't care if you called these small or not okay I again I gotta address the chat so is it rags complaining that the troopers are slower to shoot than Mando is silly that is not what I said that is not what you said the early times when storm troopers have him right in front of them and Mando's not even facing them and they just don't take the shot I am not complaining that troopers are slower than Mando you extrapolating what I said to that is that's a problem on you I do not expect storm troopers to be able to one on one beat Mando this is ridiculous this is the stuff we need to avoid carry on though I guess it's kind of like it's interesting I feel a level of empathy for Carl Weathers being like I got you this job you completed it you got loads of money I did too now you're like fucking it all up for everybody and then he like has you know from Carl Weathers point of view it's like wow and your team of Mandalorians kill like all of my bounty guild I mean think about it from the perspective that Mando completed the bounty got paid and made his fucking armor and then he's like lol nah I'm gonna go again wait wait wait wait wait wait wait this isn't a criticism against the plot of the episode it's a criticism against Mando I agree he's fully justified in being ticked off but it doesn't mean that Mando doesn't mean that he doesn't mind it that actually can be turned into a criticism by the time you hit episode 8 where Mando is like Carl Weathers did you kill the Mandalorians he's like really pissed at him and it's like mother fucker maybe he did what if he did you killed all of his men after you betrayed him like I just really frustrated me you got paid you accepted the payment and then you betrayed him so yeah what if he did it's such a weird like moral grandstand it's like you did that to me it honestly reminds me of Batwoman that part there is a distinction in that the the bounty hunters are not on the same moral level as the Mandalorians because they're willing to you know, kidnap children off to be executed by whoever's paying them and so I mean even the fact that Mandalorian betrays the bounty hunter guilds isn't a bad thing is a bounty hunter couple for the bad things that they do on behalf of their clients well they should be if you're willing to do evil for just getting paid well you're not doing it you're just doing what they want you're facilitating it okay, yeah sure I mean I'm not sure that I disagree it's just an interesting little bounty hunters aren't morally good people unless they have like a stance that they won't do you know like kidnap babies to be executed there's one bounty hunting is a neutral profession that can go either way based on I would agree then perhaps it's based on but anyone who is then willing to try a baby Yoda bounty and carry it through is by definition evil because yes I would say that that is definitely a moral flaw one thing I will say though I guess if we're talking about it even though you could say that Mando is not like directly in the most personal way responsible for the deaths of the Mandalorians I would expect him to have like it on his conscience in some way I agree I think that like that should be a good point of conflict that he might blame himself somewhat he didn't know it would happen and you know the Mandalorians should have left a lot before but I agree I get it would be interesting for as we go on whenever he looks at baby Yoda he sees the faces of all the Mandalorians who died because of stuff that he did and the results of things I wonder what they like the thing is it can easily be justified that the Mandalorians could have a creed that you do not mourn those that die in fulfilling the creed and so it could be something there are a lot of ways to spin it I feel like they won't though that's the problem I feel like they're not going to do this someone said what they didn't shoot him the stormtroopers didn't shoot him on spot when they surrounded him because he saw baby Yoda in his arms I'm not referring to that I'm referring to something that happened where a stormtrooper comes right behind him and just doesn't German man at this point doesn't even really give a shit at this point if he gets killed remember German man doesn't care about baby Yoda being alive anymore yeah true but do the stormtroopers know that like they're probably not privy to all the progressive things and all they knew is that this is a valuable thing that this bounty hunter was told to get and now he's trying to steal it and even if they knew that much I don't know and he does sell like he tells them what I'm holding is valuable that might have been enough yeah at that point I definitely believe why they wouldn't shoot him the ones in the back maybe not so much but still I totally get it it's not a problem I don't have any problem with that scene I'm referring to earlier on before he gets before he gets baby Yoda I just checked the script so after he says I order you to extract the necessary material and be done with it he follows up with saying he has explicitly ordered us to bring it back alive is that Morph Gideon they're referring to the guy who fires at them with a tie fighter when they're holding baby Yoda because man episode 8 oh look they've got baby Yoda that I need and I'm just gonna pew pew shoot him with this oh but also the bounty hunter who was trying to kill Mando in episode 5 would have blown up the ship not to mention the IG unit as well apparently he was supposed to kill baby Yoda but Morph Gideon wants it alive oh no it's falling apart again I lost track of the conversation sorry I gotta use the loo anyway so I'll be right back oh well so the when a Herzog says extract what you need to be done with it he it says he wants the specimen alive or something like that referring to the higher up the guy in the tie fighter we assume Gideon yeah he seems to answer to Gideon which is interesting because the IG unit was told to kill it definitively and obviously the bounty hunter in episode 5 would obviously if it destroyed Mando's ship baby Yoda's gonna be floating around maybe it could do the layer thing yeah and even when a Herzog said that you could do it dead or alive so I'm just confused that means we're on to episode 4 now right? I think so it's very interesting what Morph wants at the end because he still wants Yoda but then they've extracted what they needed to have they or what like maybe they have extracted what they needed but it's useful to have more so having the original source oh the only other thing was it's surprising how many of them have the jet pack and yet all of them aren't allowed to leave that place more than one at a time and he doesn't have a jet pack and he's the one who's bounty hunting you know what I mean I get that apparently you have to earn it I guess does she mention that I don't really know yeah there's nothing like it is strange for me there's only one out at a time because kind of be useful to have more you guys are tough are they staying there to protect it but that didn't seem to work out for him did it so I don't know it's unexplained alright and yeah I'm happy to move on to episode 4 here we go here's the good stuff here we go we should wait for Rax for this one oh yeah he will want to be here I'm sure I think you know this has been an adventure just putting it out there already 5 hours I don't oh gosh I'm not sure I'm going to be able to stay for the whole episodes but who else are you going to have to try and defend this I suppose we will have to be very calm and just state our criticisms and then people may make of them what they will as opposed to saying they are definitive flaws drinker he he didn't mind it he said it was flawed but overall he enjoyed it enough so I don't know maybe you'll still be too late if you can get him on board well yeah the other problem is that we do actually need to round it off eventually to make sure we can get I know and I'm not going to be able to come back for a while to finish it off that is alright we will have you back the moment we can so well we can still talk about some things like I mean the fight of the end where he jumps behind the ship and suddenly the ship that can block all blaster bolts and it's just made out of trashy well I assume it must be made out of juris steel juris steel is the common type of steel everything is made out of because my goodness that stuff is in full protection for a good while and as to how much cover he has I think he has a decent amount it was good that he was jumping into cover so that's alright and then when he disintegrates a few of them that certainly would scare off and not like as like and I wonder how exceptional his pulse rifle is because people are surprised by it yet they're also familiar with it because the girl lady in episode four she's like give me the pulse rifle so she's familiar with that kind of thing yet we've never seen anything like that in styles before have we because that's a full one disintegration gun yeah I assume they they drew that out of beta saying to Boba no disintegrations does he I missed that yeah he's because he said he wants the the bounties alive so I just assume that that's where they were like hey that means bounty hunters or Mandalorians have disintegration capabilities cool you know now that I think of it while rags away I should go to the toilet as well or do you have to wait until it comes back so no no you go for it go for it so you're pretty good I'll be back in a sec we're on the cusp of episode four finally yeah I know it's exciting because this is when it just deteriorates completely you know poopy in his pantyhole I guess for the reference for how it was when we were watching the show by episode four I was still on the show side even though episode three was I got very frustrated before I felt insulted I was like this is ridiculous yeah four was um yeah and I wasn't the only one I think most people seem to agree that four was really bad like four I've seen people saying four and five are the weakest ones and then six is really good the bill bear one which will be interesting if we can talk about it I don't really like six either no I don't either I mean four and five are the low point I would say yeah um then I guess it picks back up a bit in episode seven but then it kind of falls back down again I don't even want to watch the shows the way that Bullard rags do other bays they like anything um I guess you knew to the channel yeah we do so we like stuff that makes sense a lot of the time I like plenty of stuff that doesn't make sense uh the way we try and figure this stuff out is that sometimes whether I like a thing or not I have to acknowledge that there is a flaw within it and vice versa I might hate something a lot but I have to recognize that it's particularly well made and that's what these discussions are for to try and explore whether or not something was well made or not um yeah for example I'm pretty sure all four of us here think that Lord of the Rings is incredible and uh the writing is staggeringly strong um yep but there's a lot of stuff well I mean a good example of that it's good but I don't this isn't for me because I love this movie but the common example of this is good but I don't like it is Blade Runner yeah Blade Runner Citizen Kane whether or not you find it boring people said about 2001 people said about uh yeah people said about a lot of really good movies but they are good whether or not you like them right and then conversely Venom I like Venom but it's bad it's really bad are we still on episode three we're about to go to episode four we're on episode four we're waiting for you but uh Shanda decided to go to the toilet as well so and then we were explaining to chat that uh no we don't in fact hate everything yeah oh yeah it's just that this problem this like these were the best episodes and they have a bunch of little problems and all of these little problems adds up some of these I wouldn't call little problems like for instance him not using thermal vision directly results into him almost getting killed and he has to be saved by baby Yoda like that's not a little thing like those are the things that stack up and stack up and it only gets worse from here would you say it ruins the episode though that the episode is still enjoyable that kind of stuff it certainly adds to the pile for me that's the kind of stuff that ruins it for me like or adds to ruining it for me I can't unsee it like it's not stuff that I can't see um but like subjective I just can't not see that stuff I get that I mean the thing is I definitely see why people like this which is why people who do like it like I don't have a hatred for Mandalorian as a show I just think it's bad I don't like I have a hatred for the last Jedi you know I find it interesting yeah is that I think there are things that I have criticized and say Rise of Skyrock and Jedi and some of them were on like you could say are as small as some of the things I'm defending in this one and the differences I think is that there was enough good in Mandalorian to help me just and I admit like the the thermal thing that's a legitimate problem and I don't think there is a real valid like defense for it except for making up something that he didn't have it beforehand which is valid because there's nothing saying it and so that that's completely valid but I can ignore or I am willing to ignore it I think that's the difference I acknowledge it but I'm willing to ignore it because there's enough good for me to enjoy when there's no good for me to enjoy or barely anything I'm not going to ignore anything because it doesn't deserve it it's like no yeah yeah there's there's plenty of bad stuff that we see um that we like um but like subjective stuff is that's the thing about subjectivity that's why we treat it differently from objectivity like it's not consistent you know it's it's a weird kind of thing I just can't not see stuff like I do yeah my contention is that there is a decent amount of objectively good things in the Mandalorian to make it good overall generally not in every episode don't get me wrong but I especially with the episodes we've covered so far to me I think those are mostly good episodes there's problems but I don't know I would say a lot of your defenses were a lot of inferences um lots of extrapolations yeah I agree some were more base like there were some that were actually based on what is implied in the story and some were completely more kind of leaps actually admit that but the ones that are based on things you can actually point towards have more validity do you want to get to episode 4 now yeah episode 4 so where to begin I suppose at the beginning let's do this so I guess should just establish the raiders at the beginning they seem to be interested in stealing food and then leaving they destroy a droid for some reason but other than that they don't destroy much the implication being that they're doing that sort of raiding like pillaging where they're like we will attack this farming you know outset place every once in a while take their food and it'll just be a common source for us the goal right yeah it seems to be what it is it's definitely a recurring thing okay there's some stuff there's some contradiction later on based on that it's just good to keep it in mind it may not come up again I'm just making sure of my own sort of framing of this whole thing food production is never fully explained in the Star Wars universe it does seem that they rely on farming, moisture farming whatever that really means and old school yeah and so they don't have like replicators or advanced industrial scale farming but it's interesting about that and it's nearby they are aware of a settlement that is essentially like a small town it's like a step up from theirs that I assume that they do trade with on occasion because these people do have access to droids and garages and basic stuff like that so first things first I guess then because we've talked about fobs and stuff so I don't want to repeat any of that the way Mando happens to fly to this place is a way that he's spotted by the village people and they assume just from him arriving that he'll be somebody that they can sort of get to help them even though when they talk to him they say that his armor is what gave him away as being someone that can help him I found that very strange it is odd I mean it would have made sense that they could infer that's a gunship that has big guns on it so that might be someone who could help us out could be someone who could help us but you know it's something to go off oh yeah that's right like he's really weird with Baby Yoda in this episode first of all he's like stay on the ship on your own okay he'll all buy and then Baby Yoda's clearly gonna keep up with him and it's like okay he just lets him walk along with him and they do the movie magic thing where Baby Yoda just keeps managing to not only keep ahead of keep up with Mandalorian but somehow get ahead of him when he walks at like incredibly low speeds and then they'll show like Mando's clearly get away further ahead of him and you might be like why are you bringing this up and it's like well because Baby Yoda's clearly like vulnerable and Mando doesn't seem to give a shit at this point where Baby Yoda could have been eaten by that cat monster it's just like Mando shows a very very inconsistent care for this thing in the most basic and common sense kind of ways that go past oh you're not a parent you wouldn't understand this goes into just common sense I actually agree with this I'm just doing the whole devil's advocate thing if there's any defense alright could it be that Mandalorians have a very basically tough love mentality if you're not going to be tough enough to fight off a cat you're not going to be tough enough to live by the way so they have a very much you have to handle things even when you're little starting out from the outset could that be the answer I don't think that they would have to really specify that because he doesn't seem to do anything in the show that would have him especially at this point think that this child needs to defend itself and be tough and be strong I agree and he's not raising it as a as a foundling yet it could be an instinctual thing it could be an instinctual thing even though it's not a foundling this is just how he feels kids are raised and you've got to handle yourself a bit even at that age then why would he keep putting him back on the ship then why would he keep putting him back in this thing whenever he gets out well I mean he knows that it looks like he can get off the ship whenever he wants but from this episode he does think the ship would hold him in but his following so fine come along with me anyway he could have just locked him in like the somewhere but he just says come with him I know that would be interesting to find out why he like we're not giving anything as to why it just seems to me that he's incompetent that seems to me I think that's an uncharitable way of looking at it well I mean why because think about it Baby Yoda's point Baby Yoda's following him is like we're laying low you want to come sure come along in episode 5 he just leaves him at like he leaves him at the spaceport hang on there are points when it is like you should have been looking after him more there are some of the same things he knows and this instance right here I don't think it's incompetent it's just like you want to come along sure yeah but then afterwards he tells some woman like look after him and it's like you don't know about you don't know who she is also I want to I don't know that it's wise to devil's advocate every single thing that exists like I mean pick the bowels I suppose because if I said like 2 plus 2 is 4 then you go well what if numbers aren't real I should be like okay come on guys when you say something that's indefensible I agree with you and I've done that multiple times already I'm just saying I do want to challenge things when I think there is a valid enough defense that's worth putting towards it I know sometimes I haven't where I've gone too far the tough love defense seems shaky at best and it's not mentioned at all yeah I agree um it is weird to see how new planet he was walking through the forest he doesn't carry baby Yoda with him he's like just walk and it's weird to leave him so open when he's checking this planet to see if it's suitable to be here so for all he knows anyone could be here right now that's dangerous in fact he ends up getting into a fist fight very soon okay and I agree with you there that I think it's it's fine to have Yoda come along but the fact that he is not protecting or cautious of him very much at all and I'd say yeah you're right the tough love thing doesn't really explain especially with Yoda's value kind of thing and he doesn't know that there might be others on the planet it's one thing for him to check the town out and then bring him in later but just right off the bat display him so openly and irresponsibly very like oh I thought this thing was you like you gave up a lot for this kid like you should take care of him um uh Navarro Dune we know that she's in hiding and later on she has to cover up her uh her arm on Navarro to avoid people detecting that she's used X Rebel or whatever I'm just like why wouldn't she always have that covered if she's in hiding she covers it up what they have to do with I don't know cause she said that she's on the run she's got life sentences to deal with if the Republic ever found her yeah she said she's done things that would put her in a life sentence we learn this I think at the end of this episode no we learn this uh is at the end of no it's it's when he comes back for her the second time yeah that's when we learn about it but this is still knowledge that the characters have it seems weird to shoot because it's you know it's very advertised that's I guess that's what I'm going with mm-hmm it's funny that the waitress offers to give Mando broth and alcohol I assume it's like a flag into something and I just like does he have a bendy straw or like how does he and ironically maybe there's a small thing that will like you can pull down from underneath the visor that he could just I mean I would if I was a Mandalorian I legitimately you what like it's silly sure I would want a straw that I could just stick up my helmet you know I think they just wouldn't show us that cause it would just it would be hard to take it just offer him a drink when he clearly said but it's odd but also he gives her he gives her money and she doesn't tell him anything and detrusted and look after baby Yoda's like damn dude that's insane careful there and she literally doesn't like yeah just walks off and and you think that if he did that like he would be really cross with her he'd go back in and say give me my money back or something but he's not he just like oh well I guess I just wasted my money for nothing with this person and they put the baby in jeopardy and oh well I guess yeah and I know that Fringy can attest to this because he literally did it while watching the episode if I remember correctly but when Mando's chasing her footprints he takes a really long time to assume the first thing would have happened which is she's above you he's like hmm where could she have gone like it's like she disappeared into thin air it's like dude just look up like also he doesn't use his wall of vision to also yeah when I'm not sure if you just said it I think I might have zoned out but like when they point guns in each other's heads it's like you you know you can just shoot her and she can't kill you right you've got this big Beskar steel helmet just blow her brains out she can't kill you well there's a lot of issues with this fight this is the thing we might just machine gun this episode because there's so much wrong with it so to clarify first she punches a wooden panel when he dodges a punch and she's like I've got the screenshot right now yet she punches his helmet four times in this fight and she's fine yeah Beskar steel that thing to the point where he gets like punted straight into the ground and it's just not gonna bother because a lot of people were like she's wearing special gold let's like nah hitting wood hurts her but hidden stuff is stronger than doer of steel doesn't okay it's funny all they needed to do was not show her getting hurt by hitting the wood because I can get how punching a wall that solid would hurt but like come on you're still punching like I know that armor will you have a little give on someone's face it looks like they're just panels yeah it's like someone said that Mando didn't want to kill her why not she's a bouncy hunt to try to get baby yodo I just think it's funny that she's aiming her gun at his fucking Beskar steel yeah it's like they both pull it's like it's one of those things where they both pull guns they're pointing at each other for some reason Mando isn't like oh she can't hurt me because she's aiming at my Beskar and he just kills her right there and they have that pause so that then they could go then they could hear baby yoda next to him something that rags pointed out when we were watching this so there's several points where he's grappling her which would be a fantastic time to activate the flamethrower instead he chooses to activate it when he has like no way of aiming it at her and telegraphs it usually so she can just stop it immediately yeah like this whole fight is relatively frustrating and I know a lot of people really enjoyed it I just I don't get so many things that happen in it it's just like someone's saying weren't you in someone say Fringy weren't you in rags literally a sniper lady should have shot Mando in the head to kill him but her doing it wouldn't she has a blaster that we know just bounces right off of him yeah whereas she had I'm pretty sure you advocated or his head would possibly kill him because of the amount of damage it does to the chest plate yes and also she's a lot closer now so it's a much more powerful rifle yeah like we kept saying it was aimed for the neck because there's no armor there at all yeah you did you did clarify neck as well so you can't get us on this one give it up you're not gonna get us on this one this is not a good one at least you're paying attention sort of um so it's I guess I shouldn't do it very even just gonna do it for fun what if he's attracted to her and wants to flirt oh yeah she's definitely hot what if she's not even real what if you snuck rags you don't know his type okay I guess I don't I imagine he would be attracted to the strong type okay I'll take I'll walk that a little bit back she's not ugly she's fine she looks fine I think she's beautiful rags you're a racist the rebel scum um so something I appreciated just to point out even if it's a small thing I like that they decided to cast a you know a woman who's got a bit of muscle on her to reflect the characters but yes that helps that yeah like a bad day beating everybody every strong man up it's like it's believable from a yeah it's believable from a strength perspective but I still think especially in this fight I think Mando should have whooped her ass I would like to he's got the how strong like it's implied that she's physically stronger than Mandalorian I don't know why I would assume because they arm wrestle later and she doesn't beat him she one punches him to the ground yeah but they arm wrestle and she can't beat him maybe he could punch her to the ground you don't know maybe um I was just gonna say though so when the Rhino is about to charge Mando baby Yoda saves him when he's having the arm wrestle with her baby Yoda quote unquote saves him when they're having this fight and she even pulls a gun on him baby Yoda just doesn't seem to fucking care oh I'm not saying the actress is a cut I'm saying the character like just like with Rose Tico right the actress is actually really good looking but what they do with her in Star Wars is like how did you do this how did you manage this what black magic wizardry is this how do they get that bad yeah the reason I brought this up is because I actually quite like that baby Yoda was always going to assume any harm coming to Mandalorian is a bad thing but then in this scene baby it was just like this is fine just like okay because baby Yoda chokes her while they're arm wrestling I know yeah that was anything like man odd it's inconsistent yet it was a funny scene as well I chuckle that and just slip and it was amusing it's it's a it's a fun scene in that sense I like baby Yoda better a lot I like baby Yoda I really do yeah I guess just moving moving quickly the planet isn't big enough for the both of them apparently the strange they have completely different reasons to be hiding I haven't listed here let's see she says that one of them has to move on Mando doesn't even ask why he just says he can't stay here anymore even though he explicitly stated that they would be safe here in lay low he just completely acquiesces to her demand instantly just like that she says the planet is taken he doesn't haggle there's no pushback he just totally cucks out also it's a planet I think it's framing in a more critical way but I ultimately agree with you it's like yeah it's not explained why or it doesn't make sense that he now needs to some chick is like there's not enough room on this planet for the both of us it's like what are you talking about then we're jumping into the he doesn't get startled by the two guys who seem to care which we covered that we'll just move on it's very strange this scene the way it sort of runs and this happens again in episode 5 that we'll go over just Mando being convinced of something that he's clearly against of like so in this one he's like no I'm not gonna help you and then he's like wait you guys came from a village so you have lodging right and then they're like yeah and then I'm just like well wait but you already have lodging on the ship and you were planning on leaving to find a better place why would that convince you to go with them I guess yeah why is living in a shack a deal breaker or I guess the opposite of a deal maker I suppose very strange especially because at least on the ship he's like well if we need to leave we could just leave any time we're right here on the spaceship we could relocate whenever we want pack this up really securely him doing random repairs to his ship is very lucky because if he had just left they wouldn't have been able to get him in time because he was in the daytime and he said they have to leave and then it's night time and he's just doing stuff and things and it's like oh man because obviously they established it takes a day to get to Mando's ship from where they are so obviously they couldn't have them turn up a daytime for that to be true so they had to delay Mando just fiddle with the ship it was like okay it's not that big of a deal it's just obviously allowing things to happen and I just don't believe that you would have gone with these people under the promise of some way to sleep you could sleep in your ship you don't really care about it there was one other thing doesn't justify it more a little bit but not fully there was in the middle of nowhere specifically but the ship can go to the middle of nowhere whenever it chooses it that's true but if lodging implies food and resources to live off for an extended period of time he was there for several weeks and so even if he can take his ship to the middle of nowhere he would need some type of food resource or whatever to help him keep going I know but if you're wanting to lie low you would want to fly around as little as possible doesn't he have access to that bar or whatever it is restaurant is right next to him anyway but that's not in the middle of nowhere that's where people will obviously go to when they come to this planet regularly but the village is close enough and people are aware of it and I thought he said that the planet like he has to leave the planet yeah I know I'm not saying it fixes it I'm just saying there are some things that make it a little bit less bad how do you find Cara so quickly had a tab on there or something he used a fob let's not open that counter where and I don't think he did it normally I'm being an idiot yeah he just found it because plot just catch up with minutes luckily we've covered some of these things ahead of time let's see he will pull okay we're not there yet I think we said the next thing I have is he is not at all startled when he is approached at night in the woods out of shit by two men who do not announce themselves yeah he'll pull a gun on arms safely yeah that's his concern levels and reactions are extremely inconsistent and illogical let's see one thing I notice is he says the payment isn't enough before he knows how much the payment is a little strange let's see we did the lodging thing he goes to her to tell Mando to help Mando goes to Cara finds her to tell her to help him so alright I guess he thinks that he does that I mean it's lucky that she's willing to work with him she seems very against him she said he had to move on to a new planet but she's like oh yeah I'll do this job with you I'll go to the village with you she's got the hots for him okay alright alright that explains everything done so now they have entered the village at this point in my notes he's introduced to his quarters he spins and nearly pulls his gun on a child in a village that just goes with the inconsistent alertness from earlier he lets baby Yoda go out and play without a supervision and he acquiesces when the village woman just says they'll be fine about the tough love thing he's very against the idea of baby Yoda being out of the same room as him until the woman says it'll be fine and he's like oh okay it's a very strange moment because I think it would have actually been better to just not have him freak out at all considering the other stuff we've seen but at this point it's just like wait so you do want to have baby Yoda right next to you at all times and it's like well no no really because she just says no it'll be fine and he's like oh okay like I don't his attitude towards baby Yoda is very confusing well in this case why doesn't he just say sure but he has to play in front or where I can see him out of all the locations he's been in this is probably one of the safest ones if I just jump in I'm saying it's fine that he just likes baby Yoda golf like I said I would have found it much more smooth if he had just said play in my line of sight that's all I've been like yeah okay yeah minor but there's a lot of what I would call death by a thousand cuts for episode four for sure and then and then comes the taking the mask off in front of like three meters away from several people and if he is seen by any of them he cannot put that mask on all right all right so no response the window is looking is he even looking through a window what if the window the top cell cut off at his neck and so his head was still blocked behind like the top cell of the window oh I think I know what you mean but no like I can now here's a picture of the window yeah I can one picture also what if somebody just walked in as has just happened moments ago that he freaked out about there's not a door there's no door here foiled again and I'd heard a lot of people didn't like this like this isn't not well known from what I understand yeah I'm very weird that he would take his helmet off easily being seen cause he makes such a big deal about it in the episode and even later after this big deal about it but I'm like man we know you're not consistent about this one-way mirror yeah this is uh this don't work man frustrating to say the least then well I was just gonna say to kick on we got um for some reason the villagers didn't tell them about the thing that was shooting at them and you might be like well they wanted them to come and it's like yeah but that's like the whole thing they need them for so it's just weird they highlight to the villagers it's like you didn't tell us about the enormous monster beast ATS to you cause they were like what even is that they were like the thing you didn't tell us about I just thought it was weird it was like cause that's the whole reason they're there right um they have this line right so the idea is uh when understanding this difficulty the first thing you might think of is like relocate the village right and then they're like no we can't because it took generations to seed this ground um I'm not an expert in farming or fishing but I don't know that's how that works they seem to just have pits for like alien shrimp it's alien fish in order to have alien fishing you need to seed ground for generations yep I'm glad you understand you know what the line is for it's designed to say no they have to win this ground because this ground has to be won you're like okay fine if you say so we would rather all get blowed up and killed than our children destroyed than have to move like okay I guess one is more important than the other unfortunately Mando says there is nothing on this planet that can damage the legs on the ATST that is I guess the ship can't blatantly not true yeah uh blatantly like what about two logs tied to trees that would swing in on either side for some reason I suspect that works I don't know why yeah well you must yeah but to rig a trap like that you must be big and strong and ugh be small and furry I ought to furry have to that's just disingenuous freeing the amount of time it took to train the village to be able to defend them while they try and shoot the ATST is the time they could have just gotten his ship I don't know why they didn't I mean I'm just going to go in further and say the idea that they try and train these is insane like they were that's why they did it like a practice is okay but why the sticks they literally have shot I still think giving them just guns randomly is stupid I think they're going to be more likely to kill themselves especially with how hazardly he hands them out but they literally have Kara training them with pointed sticks one of them even is holding the pointed stick with a pointy and facing backwards like you're sending these people to their deaths uh yeah it's all very very bizarre the plan is to bottleneck the enemies into coming from one direction Kara and Mando will take out the ATST while the rest of them need to keep the raiders away from those two and they're going to do that with guns and sticks and it's staggering to behold they make barriers and stuff well the barriers are to bottleneck them but also they won't actually like have you seen pictures of the barriers actually because they don't actually do that yeah they have nothing like they're so pathetic and widely spaced apart and they cover so little of the village that knows like the idea that they think this will work is laughable it is this plan this whole train the villagers make the barrier those barriers are pathetic they're basically fences with large holes in between they don't account for the they account for the idea they're going to have to try and trick the ATST into falling over and killing itself but they don't account for what's going to happen up till that point like what about all the times the ATST is going to shoot at us up to that point they don't account for that and lucky for them they don't really need to because it doesn't shoot at them it shoots at the houses in the background I think two or three times it just doesn't yeah and there's no guarantee it would even walk as close as it did it could have just hung back at the tree while there's no reason for it to come close in fact when Kara is shooting at it it decides to try and get closer to her to shoot her which is precisely the opposite of what it needs to do we're skipping way ahead we've been doing that all stream we jumped forward and back I was about to say that in the first and the opening the ATST doesn't even go to the village it doesn't even appear when it assaults the village okay there was shots from it are you saying it from the tree line huh you're saying there was shots from it from the tree line in the opening yeah it's shot from the tree line it didn't even come into view yeah and they weren't even like oh the big thing yeah it doesn't even come out like last time it didn't I have been made aware of a defense Chad I was going to ask you what you think about this the ATST shot the houses in the hopes to kill innocent hiding people in order to demoralize the attacking defending team uh no I wouldn't say that's a good defense because if there are people well actually it depends I guess it depends how I guess how much of a threat it considers all the people anything and honestly by not shooting at the people who can shoot back you might feel safe in your ATST but all your other buddies are getting shot and so by not shooting at the people shooting back at you you're just giving more time personally I feel like you should prioritize your targets I think it'll demoralize someone more to kill their allies in war than killing their families and you know what demoralizes somebody if you kill them for real then they're properly demoralized because they can't demoralize anyone they can't experience moralizing but yeah this the I this is I don't think we would get any resistance from especially you Shad on this plan because it's just so this is probably one of the it's tactically inept like this is insane there's a lot of dumbiness this comes back to the idea that this is Mando's plan and hers like these are both veterans of either wars or trained in tactics and all this stuff they forget also like just to reply to someone in chat they're saying complaining about the distance of the ATST that's this is a valid one okay it actually is like when you have a tank you don't want to put the tank in any level of vulnerability you want it to hold back and to blast the target to hell from a safe position where was this guy when we were talking about episode 3 of game of thrones those trapezees are you really complaining about the trapezees come on yeah this is what this is being consistent right because the placement of the ATST you're like oh you're just nick picking about where it stands it's like no no this is integral to the survival of our protagonists in the village like this is a huge deal it is it is I think a good distinction between something that's lesser to something that's like either a super contrivance thing is if the entire plot is hinging on this thing happening and that's very much it is the whole the ATST is destroyed by being used in such a dumb way and moving forward when it could have hung back and just play no more to hell and I mean the fact that when Mando and is Akara doing or whatever when they're sneaking in that they don't go for the ATST first thing to either boil it up or to steal it or any number of things is like yeah there are problems a lot of problems in this episode so I will say there are some things I was able to enjoy I mean I enjoyed the production value still I enjoyed baby Yoda and out of like even though the ATST was used in a very poor way I did find a silver lining that I was able to enjoy I enjoyed the fact that they showed it being so menacing and threatening because usually they were just throwaway pieces of junk and I just found it refreshing that oh good at least they're showing it as a true threat and danger and it's not just some comical oh no logs awful I mean like well I don't know because they act like it is but then one shot disables it well no it's hard to get that shot off though she has to get rid of it no that doesn't make any sense though what do you mean like this is a rifle that has a scope it can kill things at long distance this thing is standing still with too bright Legend of Zelda weak points right on the front of it and he just doesn't shoot it from where he is yeah good point good point he could have ever aimed for that earlier and I think that any defense to say the angle was better getting close up is undermined by the fact that being so close and you fire through one of those eyes you're just gonna hit the canopy top of it yeah and also you could it's not covered because we could see the red lights from the inside like with those openings the thing that Mando did to throw the bomb through the isolate to blow up the people on the inside he could have just been hanging up on one of the trees and as soon as what yes there was nobody on the inside oh what it was auto well there's still discussion on this yeah that's the thing so either or that's the thing we have plenty of references for ATSTs with people in them there are no people in this ATST it's just red lights on the inside I always assumed there was you just didn't see him looking through those isolate no that's no no there's no one there we don't see anyone there but the natural assumption is that someone would be because these things are we can see in there and those are where people sit in ATSTs people are arguing to this day whether or not it's an AI ATST or driven by like a really short person at my point I don't think it matters because those eyes are openings that you can throw bombs through to take out the entire cockpit and if the Mandalorian was just on the tree waiting for it to granted you wouldn't know where it would walk underneath but if you could climb up on top and throw a bomb through the window why not attach them to his leg honestly yeah well honestly this is solving a problem that shouldn't exist because and this isn't even going into how does one shot up into the top of it disable the whole thing it doesn't make any sense but also this is why is the why didn't they because we haven't even gotten into the whole what was their plan in the radar encampment why didn't they just find the ATST and put a sticky bomb on it and blow it up hey that's what I said before yeah like this is all because all the grunts like those they're nothing because we don't have to worry about them the thing is the ATST so why they start blowing stuff up and causing a commotion in the camp instead of alright we need to find where the ATST is let's just follow the tracks because I have like literal thermal imaging that can find tracks that could off that wow that could come in handy so I could track down this ATST and blow it up but they don't if anything the ATST surprises them and then decides not to blow them away and then they run for it and it misses all of its shots and oh yeah misses them like seven times frustrating and everyone's like red lights better for people at night is like I I understand but there's nobody inside we can see inside and there's nobody in I don't know about the nobody inside thing if there was a very short man inside it maybe but like it's just weird the whole things portrayed as if it is an AI I don't really understand um yeah there was like and they could have made it work like if um the ATST was used to patrol their camp all the time so you couldn't sneak into it to blow it up when it's not active that it's always used in defense so they have to deal with it and yeah but they executed this was very poor and someone brings up a good point why the red lights if it's controlled by an AI that's the thing that's why it doesn't make sense because again like we can look it's to make it look menacing yeah that's right but we can see inside of it where people sit in an ATST and there's nobody there hang on could you do that in um last return of the Jedi I don't remember seeing people through the window only when they looked up like I thought you would naturally looking through a view screen or something when you're piloting those things and we're only the backup you open up those hatches so you can look through manually that's what the hatches are for for people to look through manually for the two people sitting inside to look yeah but therefore that would mean it's not necessary to look through them to pilot it there's nowhere else for them to be that's where they sit that's where you sit you can see but you don't need to have the better picture of it if you're sitting your head wouldn't be in line with the window but you stand up and then you'll throw it well no no that's that's what the windows are for to for people sitting down to look in and see this isn't yeah you can look at through the return of the Jedi and then you could also look at all of the models and all of the supplementary materials of where it is and there this is how it works which is why it's so confusing that there's no one there and I will say it would have been better if there were people there so that when Kara Jade or whatever shoots into there to hit the guy he like slumps over or maybe he could have disintegrated him but maybe he slumps over if he gets hit and it hits a control and the control steers it over and it trips the thing or something like that well yeah I've looked up the cockpits and sitting down it's perfectly in line with those window openings and so the only way you wouldn't see someone is if they're actually sitting in between those window openings yeah which would be a little bit weird well there are screens in between that would give you your field of view and that's probably what you're supposed to look through normally and the hatches are supposed to be almost like backups yeah I mean like we have that in real life on tanks and stuff there are oompa loompas inside the ATS okay well I mean that would that would have made for an interesting episode oh my god this planet is loompa land oh my god the lore expands but we've jumped ahead of it just again all through lots of things there's a quote where they say cut down trees and build barricades that are strong enough that they can't be broken or he says they can't break it an ATST shot to any one of those three collected logs it's just gonna obliterate it yeah can I just say this isn't a side but ATSTs and ATATs I've always thought were retarded in Star Wars because they have hovering things and having things on legs is just stupid yeah I will say I'm wondering I will agree that they seem stupid I'm wondering if there is some limitation of hovering that we're not aware of that would make it a certain way I just don't know but it does seem like that is indeed kind of dumb because we have the imperial or the the droid federation tanks those hover but they also have the ones that have those weird wheels that spin at an angle so I'm like man that's weird it does seem that hovering would just be the best in almost every scenario exactly yeah I've never liked them Mando unloaded all of his gear but he decided not to bring his ship he took the time to get all of his gear out in the case of needing to arm the village I guess but instead of just being like I'll just bring my ship he'll be faster to get there you guys can come with me and I'll have all my stuff and my ship will be in the field of view so I'll know that nobody's stealing it or fucking with it it's just a weird thing to me someone saying weight is a problem hover tech can be jammed well I guess and dare I say it in the rise of skywalker they confirm that speeders can be jammed yeah maybe that's they can fly now maybe there's a reason I'm not sure but to get a height advantage that's actually a good point yeah so that's strange because they have spaceships where entire starships can fly through shields into the interior atmosphere of landing bays anyway this is getting off the topic it felt weird that he was risking his life baby Yoda's life all of his gear in his ship just everything from what I remember again this is season 3 Mandalorian man what an altruistic thing for you to do buddy you're gonna help him be free of this horrible menace when you've got really big issues for yourself to be taken care of but okay that's his character I think at least we're supposed to believe that I do think the show is trying to say that he has got a heart of goldenly goldenly gold he would help an old lady cross the road I think he's a nice man yeah so the size of the ATST I'm not convinced that the puddle would have been able to down it it's like enormous the thing is only so deep that Kara is like waist deep in water and I'm trying to get a shot of how big this ATST is yeah it's really really dumb that they think that's such a tiny distance for an all-terrain walker will get knocked over by that like that's insane for them to think that it will do that so what you'd expect to happen with the drop being I want to say like a third of its lower leg at most is that it would bend its other leg to compensate right and it would be okay yeah because that's how legs work I mean maybe I'm wrong maybe they're really poorly mechanized I don't know should we use the knee walk tactics like a heap of rolling logs that it can't balance on or something because this thing is big and also like one of the reasons that people trip a lot when all of a sudden they take a step they don't expect is because their biology gets surprised which doesn't apply to an ATST I guess so we can move to the original like the initial assaulting the area plan so you have two guys by a fire that seem to be like scoutish and Kara and Mando knock them both out at the same time cool with me then they spot seven dudes around a fire and so their plan from what we can tell is that they're going to walk into the nearby tent plant a bomb and then either just wait for them to walk in they seemingly wait for them to walk in fist fight them and once all of them have been alerted to all of this they're going to hope to just jump out of the tent while it blows up and kills all those guys that seems to be their plan now I'm trying to I'm really getting my noggin joggin as best as I can to try and come up what the hell they are thinking and doing yeah this is a huge tally mark for how retarded those two characters are for this whole plan I cannot believe this is what they went with I have several suggestions for better plans first of all being shoot the seven dudes around the fire you both can do that well before they'll be able to defend themselves but if you're really concerned about not being able to do it throw a bomb at them as soon as it goes off start shooting anybody who didn't manage to get blown up by it just put a low counter on it or whatever but their plan is ridiculous the whole like the obvious thing that they should be doing is we have to disable the ATST before it gets up and starts walking around and blowing things up so that needs to be our priority first and foremost and what do you know I have trackers that will find footprints and I can see in the dark and I have thermal vision and I have all of these gadgets and knickknacks and doodads that will allow me to do this and they just don't and all of this with the assumption that he doesn't just blow it up with his starship he could have just flown over and shot him all to death I mean the ATST could have fired back so the logic of like do you really risk his ship it's like he's risking his life so yeah might as well also that ship takes a beating from that other starship in the episode after this also there's no way that ATST can aim straight up yeah well it's not shown but I'm less concerned with that the idea that it's got a gotten Kara to bait it out and then they hide the ship a little bit further back he launches it and the ATST is there's lots of ways to do this a lot of this is indefensible very bad and a lot of stupid decisions overall now as to how much I feel it should reflect on the character is this a dumb or smart character it's going to be determined about how consistent things are in every other episode and also honestly season 2 as well I guess because for instance especially with TV shows I always expect there to be one or two episodes it's going to be pretty lousy because that's just the run of the mill I've never seen one whole series where there hasn't been horrible episodes with terrible writing and so then I'm general because of that I'm generally reluctant to take on board the actions of characters making episodes that are just bad because someone bad wrote them as to a reflection on the character as a whole and I guess my comparison would be like there obviously must be bad episodes in Buffy speckled around them there's a lot of them ones where the characters make really dumb decisions but I would assume that because everything else is so solid and especially if actions of characters are contradicting how these characters usually perform because overall with all the other previous episodes and I admit I haven't looked at the later ones but there's really one indefensible stupid thing has done and everything else was mostly defendable well this isn't one stupid thing but it's a bad episode this is a long series of terrible decisions well hang on because I would need to take every single decision I want to discern if I feel it's really indefensible and we have found one that I'm more than willing to admit that that was bad and that's you know they give villager sharpen sticks to defend against an ATST but this is very much the result of a stupid writer and so does this mean the character is stupid because of the stupid writer well it would depend on the larger body of evidence I'm giving you a saying evidence indicates the character shouldn't be this dumb well the previous episodes say this I would say I'm not convinced I'm certainly not convinced that his norm is to do intelligent things well I'm yet to give my call on that the moment I feel he is not wholly incompetent which is I'm willing to admit that he is not perfect and he certainly fails to make mistakes and makes wrong decisions but has to be completely incompetent in this episode there's a lot of problems but again for me I can't really say that this is the problem of the character but more so this is just someone they got the wrong person to write this episode because it's bad but if it's consistent in the next episodes then I would probably agree with you and chat yes I know what his point is so when we say stuff like Han Solo is a deadbeat dad that's fucking disrespectful but the only reason we're annoyed is because that's what they're saying it is people can say the sequels aren't canon it's like the reason it annoys us so much is that it is canon this is canon to Mandalorian all of his decisions in this episode are canon he's an idiot in this episode Ryan Johnson was just a bad director that's not really as for Buffy for example the characters are usually pretty solid it would always be contextual and I'd have to go through the episodes if we were to point something out about it specifically but it's usually the plot in the world that suffer in the bad episodes and in this one I haven't watched the whole thing yet but I'm very confident there's at least going to be one blatantly brain dead thing that the characters have done probably multiple times but with series especially I have to take it as a whole and not judge it by it's weakest point if that makes sense I would probably concede that there were being an idiot in that instance I wouldn't want to be like no it's a bad episode we don't count it what if it's so brain dead stupid that honestly it contradicts how the character is established in the context of the rest of the series I would say it's the flaw we have to consider it in the totality of the character I suppose I can't ignore it as being bad when the whole thing is that's consistent but for me I would say it was a bad episode and I got the wrong person to write it I mean it's certainly a bad episode but these are still things the characters do in the universe and their actions they are taken into account within the world that they're in can you recap this argument because I obviously missed a decent amount because I was dropping in and out you were all tis me there to the connection so the idea is that the episode itself is so awful that we shouldn't really count it as an example of Mando's character as opposed to just counting it as no I don't agree with that I could see an example my justification for it I guess I could see an example being when the writing is so outrageously bad and inconsistent with well like if you had an episode where Homer Simpson just got a hatchet and started chopping people up it would just be like ok so we're not going to treat this as real in my head canon you know something this is episode four it's so early on that at this point yeah you're right like I said it needs to be taken in context with everything else but if I was just to look at these four episodes this one would be the outlier for me I would want to clarify as well it's not like he made a bad tax decision or he made a poor decision in terms of cooking something this is like his bread and butter yeah this is like what he does this should be his thing yeah so it's interesting you're saying he shouldn't have made it by these decisions by the context of would you also say by previous episodes it's portrayed him to have more intelligence than what is showing in this episode this doesn't seem like it's a huge betrayal of his character based on previous episodes though see I don't know if I take the things that he did he's done in the past that he's done in the past and now he's in this situation why would those stupid decisions not carry over well one of the things is that I only agree that one is legitimately stupid I don't see a possibility of evidence to indicate is incompetent up to this point I think decent most overall in the previous episodes the big issue is that this is canonical like this happened I made the point because somebody made the point like does that mean we ignore Lucas you can't really you can choose to but it's canon so like this is why it's really important when you add stories that's the issue is anytime that's why we're all pissed at the sequel trilogy is that it's canon yeah exactly it's canon it ruins it and in this instance every episode you watch afterwards you're like man remember that really bad plan you came up with on the forest planet remember that really stupid plan you came up with that was really stupid like you can't really ignore it because it happened even though we I don't know I think it's always going to be a bad writing I think it's a balance as well because if you consider Mandalorian to be incompetent and then in season 2 he's really really competent it comes out better writing everything to me that's obviously a reflection of bad writing and inconsistent writing and stuff and what should be the norm in considering this character did you just get better or and so it's a more complex kind of I guess argument way of trying to determine the way especially you have different writers on a series because it annoys me when characters are inconsistent and stuff and stuff and so yeah yeah this is really really bad to the point where I like the defences for this have been like legit it isn't just that the Mandalorian is stupid is that a lot of this is all stupid overall I agree with that and so this isn't them actively saying we're going to make the Mandalorian make some mistakes in this episode it's just someone wrote this that was bad at writing okay and for someone in chat we never said that he is a tactical genius or should be this is not like a layman can come up with a better idea than him like it's this is insanely dumb like you don't have to be a tactical genius plan I got the thing taking our argument to get to the absurd version yeah like don't you think he should be probably better than average don't you think he should be at least better than average well I guess my point is that I feel like they have shown him better than average until this episode that's why this is the outlier for me at the moment I would say it's an outlier to me in that it's like incredibly stupid compared to his other decisions in scale but for instance like in the mudhorn he didn't use his thermal vision here he doesn't use his thermal vision it's the same mistake just in different circumstances he just keeps forgetting that he has things that he used for some reason he forgets his thermal stuff he never makes decisions about what he should pull from his armory to use for the best in the right circumstances I would have liked to have seen him use a couple of different weapons and stuff but he uses his grappling hook cleverly and consistently except when he tries to hang there are two points of sorry what except when he tries to hang a scene it all comes to that one also it well yeah keep going nice little nice comment here we want him to be better than average but we want him to be human and not a Mary Sue that is definitely our position 100% yeah we want him to be if you don't think that there is a huge grand canyons worth of space between being better than average and being a Mary Sue I don't know what to tell you also we've always been okay with characters having a specific trait that they're actually very good at that would be kind of crushing to see actually yeah it's one that's good at everything that becomes a problem yeah generally it's no problem if they're really good at one hyper specific thing and look Mandalorian is tough he can take on multiple opponents he's generally good with his grappling hook and stuff and with the first three episodes again needs to be contextualized with everything else but yeah I think he's perfectly fine at the moment except this episode the thing is the clue for me is that everything is dumb and so I think I mentioned it before but it's just the ATSC just doesn't shoot at them for ages and then chooses to shoot their houses it's just bizarre like I was just like this whole thing is over if it just nails Mando I'm not saying it should it's just that it doesn't shoot at anyone so many people could be killed here and it's just like doot doot doot it's like looking around like I don't know how do I kill and she's like stand to stand your ground because obviously the light goes over some people and so you'd think like oh no they've definitely spotted us now and she's like no no no stay there even if it's gonna shoot at you you need to stay there but it just doesn't and she calls people with sticks to just stay there die don't know what's going on because the ATSC could have fired so many more shots and it just sort of doesn't yeah and I know there's someone in chat it's dumbplanned they won after all it's like the reason they won it's bad writing it's something stupid to fix something stupid I shoot myself through my mouth it goes through my head doesn't kill me and shoots the guy who's trying to kill me behind me and I'm like hey it's almost like I was playing against someone in a video game and they lagged and disconnected for a moment so I killed them while they were AFK I mean see I won it must have been better great right I mean I won after all but it's all consistently stupid as well and so it's not it's like yeah they win in Game of Thrones if we remember it doesn't mean their plan was smart I mean it's all consistently stupid yeah yeah is that the outlier well that's just why the example wasn't a perfect comparison because technically they're all glitching and so just one being good and then taking advantage of a dumbplanned area Para takes the rifle drops into the water she shoots at it she doesn't reload and takes a second shot and also out of anyone who should be risking you know running forward it will be Mandalorian because it's got the armor another weird choice yeah I also I'm curious why she thinks getting closer to it would like you have a long range rifle man by the setup they needed it to walk in the pond and so by jumping forward and getting underneath their field of view to see her and fire at her it needed to step forward no it would step backward it would step backward in that scenario no no no like she was sitting lower than the ground above her in the pond and so from the angle of the AT-ST it needed to step forward to look over the ledge I guess in that case I'm a smarter pilot because knowing that the blasts from the AT-ST essentially like grenade drops whenever it hits anything I would just back up aim in her position if she's hiding behind a foot of soil she's still gonna feel this next shot yeah you're right it's terrible cover for the fire power at bay but that I'm just pointing out that was the logic they were trying to pull off yeah and the AT-ST does shoot at her and basically hits within like a foot of her and the soil blocks it and so when it's convenient to the plot soil can block you know cannon and if you if the actual goal was well no because she had to get close to it in order to get under the flaps to shoot inside it there's a shot that I'm showing right now that's just like nah you could have done that from where Mando was yeah I mean again if you can see red that's looking inside of yeah just shoot it man just shoot especially because it's standing still for a long period of time yeah I thought she was only shooting at it to goad it to get it to walk forward to take her out so she again feel the fire see her over the ledge not that she was actually gonna incapacitate it with a blast through the window yeah man they really needed that roof is where the CPU was and she ruined the roof of the inside of it and it took it out someone says in chat wet dirt is very good at absorbing extra energy I wouldn't say grenade explosive equivalent yeah AT-ST is not gonna and besides it's not like it can only fire once like that thing is gonna fire again also I'm gonna be I'll be a little it's strange that so Mandalorian he shoots that rifle at the exposed backside of a sandcrawler and it does nothing but the same shot to the roof of a AT-ST disables the whole thing it makes it drunk it's the weird thing it goes whoa it's like what's happening well if there was a pilot in there and there was an explosion they could have been stunned can cast or whatever there wasn't a pilot in there though wow there's a question honestly people are still talking about it it could be a pilot in there but you're right it's a strange and even if there was a pilot and it hits the top you're like oh okay well no no if there was a pilot in there those rounds seemed fairly concussive and explosive and that could really disorient someone if they're inside I know it doesn't do anything to the back of a sandcrawler yeah because it doesn't penetrate any armor she literally shot inside and the explosion went off inside the cockpit so if there was anyone in there that would really ring their head around I reckon so that one I can and especially because I'm willing to believe it could bounce off the wall and actually hit the dude who's in there assuming there was one which I don't really there's just there's I don't know why they did it the way they did it like it really gives me the impression it's an AI which is just odd I am if I had to gamble I would say it's an AI as well but that seems really strange because the the ATST is like painted up and it's it's a little bit of disrepair like it's kind of dirty which makes sense that they can't maintain it as you know up to super standard but you have an AI piloting in it and not just guys sitting up there it seems odd but also I would like to make you aware of this this this little bit shattered in relation to the fobs and Mando being maybe not but maybe stupid let's just assume it does work in the way of proximity or whatever but once you're on the planet it's not really the point I just want to get to um he says Takara after they've killed this ATST and made some done some stuff he says words travel where's gonna travel fast you might want to cycle the charts and move on implying that it may not be safe for her here anymore now that words gonna get out about this happening and yet he's happy for baby Yoda to stay here very silly man yeah at this point yeah in this episode yes yeah but what about this we'll see that later episodes I think at least I feel I was able to defend most of his action in the previous one bar 2 there were two legitimate ones that I don't think has any excuse but you know how in episode 5 he's gonna do a lot of really stupid things too though add 6 we'll go the assumption was that episode 1 2 and 3 still had a lot of things in there and I think most of it is excusable except like I said 2 so I guess we need to go through it with my analness to see um yeah I also think it's doubly weird that because after the fight weeks have passed no one's still come yet including the empire hasn't come well the single bounty under does come because that's weeks later also if you go to I feel like all of these people look in and all of these resources and especially the empire don't buy that they haven't been here yet honestly though I mean they wouldn't be able to tell the empire baby yos there just that one of the one of the gangs got blown up and maybe the empire takes over in Navarra the Navarra towns they would have access to if you guys are able to pull my stream up I really this one shot that they show I really think there's no one in there like you get a nice big clear view like it's not a particular screenshot just look at the way the the head part of it moves around it's like this I don't think there's anybody in there I don't know what we're looking at that I've got Disney plus up I can quickly oh so the time stamp is around 2855 I've got on repeat right now which luckily for me does not get me in copyright trouble right and yeah I just I don't know looking at it's like how could there be a guy in there and we still can't see them with that shot yeah I mean we know we know what the interior of an ATS where are they they're ducking down it's piloted by by E-Wax they got sick of people shit and they took those ATS T's and they went to their own planet ATS T mercenaries try themselves out from the ones that they they kept from return to the Jedi um play creation said they forgot to add pilots to the CGI that's possible but I doubt it that's like legit like would be like that actually might be the reason they could easily we just watch it you know a couple of years later and suddenly there's on the extended editions when they come out and the blue rays and everything there's all of a sudden pilots there and I can actually believe that um the last thing I have on my list unless you want to continue to develop well I was just going to say because I think I know what you're going to say and my one I think is right before it pretty crazy that both Mando and Baby Yoda were like a split second away from dying there uh with the sniper like a lucky Karatid did Karatid yeah did Karatid up like just to bait him saving from you know someone jumping offscreen it's yeah I hate that crap very close if you pulled that and they show him pulling the trigger almost like woof yeah man woof Karatid cut it closer next time alright and I assume what you were going to say Rags was just like how did Karatid know she just okay I guess she just did I was talking about how the widow wanted him to stay and tells him to pack up his gear and do the normal life and he like almost lets you take off his helmet and he yeah he legit considers it and almost does I remember when I was first watching this episode and I was like please don't take the helm off please please please oh thank god it's way too close I was like damn he almost was like yeah sure yeah abandoning his entire life just to stay in this swamp yeah that's cool he's very consistent with his uh accelerated years of his character development yeah like that's like that's something if it happened at the end of season 2 season 3 I'd be like maybe maybe after all when he's done he's ready to just this would be the end of the show honestly if we were at this point like he's done four episodes in like man a couple days of past or something like chill and then the only other thing I've got before the end for this episode for me was going to be the it's just lucky that nobody fucked with his ship while he'd been gone for weeks question mark I guess they were no Jawas yeah lucky no Jawas on this point alright yeah lockdown mode guys has a turret that most definitely pops up and shoots at people when they get close that's a thing that's it that's it someone made the get out of my swamp joke because as soon as I said swamp I'm like oh yeah like Shrek yeah what are you doing do you have um anything else no that was my last note for this episode what a travesty dumpster fire and I guess I'll show this so let's go from one dumpster fire to the next oh wait I was going to say that photo I've just put up as well so that's um why we assumed you'd see the pilots like how would you not have seen one or two of the pilots yeah definitely I would have especially because what's doubly weird too is that this is an ai allegedly but it is using a flashlight to look for cara I don't know man episode four is a fucking disaster if it is an ai usually star wars never has ai piloted things the very most they'll have a droid piloting but not an actual computer I assume that if a droid can do it you can program it to move itself I mean it's just it's the same thing it's like a tool assisted speed run unless there is like an in cannon you know thing that says no computer ai piloting stuff I don't know yeah I rule might exist but I think it'd be more reason to have yeah absolutely an ai can do things it would be more convenient it's just an extension of we know autopilot exists it's just an extension of that yeah it's just such a consistent thing in star wars that droids are the ones piloting stuff except for in solo when they uploaded the robot but she doesn't she can't pilot it even when they upload it I think I agree with you like star wars has always had it where it's like droids will do it not the computer itself yeah but if this was a really universe I would absolutely in reality in star wars not so much like even in the first episode when you got droids you know driving the cars some of the tanks in the droid army it looks like AI piloted yeah it's either way it's an odd way to introduce this or to have this be in the show here of all places but yeah moving on to episode 5 then episode 5 yes so 5 from what I've gathered is the public people's most hated episode I remember a lot of people saying this one felt like a cartoon in terms of like how yeah I don't care about that argument yeah no I don't care about it either because cartoons can be amazing but unless they're referring to because a lot of people use cartoon to mean sorry he directed episode 1 too I was going to say like to give leeway though some people can use cartoony to mean a lot of things not necessarily is the quality of a cartoon yeah I mean cartoon is a style cartoon is a style not a line of logic but we know what you generally mean when you say that so it's so good in the hood we open up with space battle space battle weird obvious thing first of all it's just like why doesn't he hyperdrive is it damaged or does he well all we got you know if I was to argue this myself I would be like maybe doesn't have enough fuel maybe hyperdrive's not working maybe it's just like they don't really account for it but alright I mean it would have been so easy to solve with a simple one line it's like well damn I yeah I'm sorry it's one of those things just open the episode with the engine damaged no but they need a battle they can still do that with the engine yeah they can do that with the show the engine obviously before his engine is shot I was curious why he wouldn't have hyperdrive to get out of the way of the sky but yeah that one's very defensible with a lot of reasons unfortunately then nothing is given I needed a throwaway line there's a lot of reasons why hyperdrive might not work and it would have been cool to have accounted for it but moving on first out is the guy who's chasing him he says hand over baby Yoda but then for how you gonna do man be careful dude you're shooting a chip with your laser blaster it would have been really funny for him to blow it up and he goes out in a space suit and looks for baby Yoda baby Yoda Mary Poppins itself to his ship also why I guess bringing it in cold or bringing it in warm is like a thing bounty hunters say not because he says that's my line is it that guy yeah it doesn't seem like it's like a unique line I thought it was really cool that that was his line but it's like I guess a lot of bounty hunters say that okay yeah it's not a it doesn't seem like a very I bet a lot of people would have thought of that and use it in any event he this episode also confirms that the ship in one blast he can destroy spaceships so it would have obviously destroyed the ATST with plenty of damage the powerful cannon which will be relevant in the next episode in terms of the firepower on his ship you might even say it's quite a dangerous ship wouldn't you Rex maybe an attack ship might you refer to it as an attack ship I might I would say that that ship if that thing was flying at me with those big fuck off cannons in the front of it in a place where this particular tractor beam thing was activated not a tractor beam tracer track or whatever oh yeah we'll get to that oh shit this thing's going around anyway I have so Mando ship is damaged he's close by the Tatooine I'm fine with him being around Tatooine but at the same time I just kind of wish it wasn't Tatooine that's all it just seems like we know Tatooine and the kind of people who are on Tatooine and more sizely where he goes having Baby Yoda with that tracker fob that he knows is active like man what a place to go we are assuming that everything on Tatooine is the same as when return of the Jedi was around I mean a job of the hut was killed and there's a lot of huts though how many yeah this is a couple years after return of the Jedi right it's like two years after return of the Jedi there was seven I remember someone saying there was seven still not yeah still not still not very long Moss Isley is not going to no longer become a hive of scum and villainy like it just doesn't it's just dangerous like yeah like he just he goes there and I understand it's probably out of necessity but man you gotta go in there thinking what really what baffles me is that he seems to forget that baby Yoda's a thing like he walks off his ship tells her to repair it without droids and then goes and finds a job and it's like dude there's a baby on board I know there is a motherly like character right there who ends up being out of take care thank goodness really well and he and he could have asked for you we should have made a lot more sense they already established that she's willing to do it and capable of doing it and they just needed to do that earlier than later but they don't okay and call back to the first episode I still think is an issue he won't let pit droids fix his ship he will make deals at once immediately with assassin droids yeah I agree that's an inconsistency I wouldn't say it makes him incompetent but I'd say this is definitely an inconsistency I'd say the choice with baby Yoda makes him incompetent droids out of necessity the whole not mentioning baby Yoda and letting it walk around willy nilly was extremely incompetent on his part especially in Mos Eisley dude in Mos Eisley yeah like um anywhere really Mos Eisley just makes it doubly so he just leaves the ship door open doesn't tell the mechanic about it and so it's obvious like at least with children he is very incombinant with but honestly even as a bounty hunter and this is such a valuable you know target and everything the fact that he's not treating baby Yoda with more concern and protection is very odd I'll add that to my list definitely an issue with Mendo I like the reference to the droids from the prequels there I said it yeah they're fine I mean that's where you'd expect a pit droid to be a nice little detail that they're on Tatooine as well you're gonna throw some some pluses in yeah you gotta be like yes yes um look the next thing that I have is again he doesn't mind talking about the droids I kind of think it's ridiculous that he has this droid racism because it gets to like you can't have a droid that's designed to repair my ship repair my ship because I don't trust droids question mark what does he think they're gonna do it's like how far does this go Mendo when someone makes him a piece of toast is he like nah I don't trust toasters it depends how deep the bias goes I totally get it with IG units they're literal assassin units or whatever he's like a mechanic droid that's the only point is to fix things and he's like nah don't trust it and all I'm saying is right this can be a part of his character I'm okay with it if I was in the room with him it'd be like you are rational as fuck that's all I have to say about that but fine he has extreme droidism sometimes so like again the next thing that happens he goes up and chats with a droid at the bar he doesn't go to the person he hates droids a lot he doesn't go to the person goes straight to the droid at the bar try to get info he's like alright I thought he hated droids a whole lot didn't trust him the lady pulled a gun on baby Yoda by the way what if she had just shot and killed oh my god Mando would have been like oh damn it just ruins everything but you shouldn't have left him alone yeah yeah someone said droids can be hacked or in like in episode 5 when they sabotage the ship it's like well why does he trust her if you're gonna talk about how someone could be like as quill points out in the last episode a droid is like not good or bad it's just according to whoever programmed it in the first place and if they heard droids then surely he trusts her enough to fuck with the ship so surely he should trust the droids and if we're using the droids can be hacked thing what about the IG unit we literally know it can be reprogrammed the show tells us that can happen people can just decide to sabotage your ship I think they could have done a better job explaining to us his position on droids it seems strange to really figure out exactly definitely could have been done with more consistency I actually really like it the idea that you have a diversion to droids in general because it kind of reminds me of Ripley and Aliens she like hates the androids but then draws on a nice little arc with the bishop could have done that with Mando they kind of try it in this they tried to pull that off because he ends up liking the droids not wanting them to die alright so I say the droid says the guild doesn't operate here anymore and he's immediately summoned over by Toro I believe his name is who is trying to do a job to get in the guild it's kind of funny to think about this is a job that the guild is okay with what do you mean? the guild doesn't operate here I guess he means that there's no HQ here maybe that's what it means but the guild clear it's okay if a known job because it's okay if there's a known job here and someone's here wanting to use that job to get in the guild but the guild doesn't operate here I think you're just reading too much into it there's no guild HQ there but if you have a target there you can go to the planet to grab it yeah that's not funny that makes sense to me I just find it funny that there's a guy who's got the perfect setup for Mando to join him sitting two meters away from him when he asks publicly how do you do it? I don't think that one's a fair quiz to me because assumedly he might have gone to many planets and found nothing and then I guess it is convenient that it's the one he broke down on that he finds work well I'm not even going to go that far I would just say all I need is for you could be like as anybody got work here and then that's how he finds it as opposed to the one guy to overhear their conversation is like oh I do good obviously it's to facilitate the story moving moving moving I'm just like oh okay he stands out like a sore thumb in his Mandalorian armor all he needed to do was not even have the conversation have someone walk up to him and say hey yeah Mandalorian I think that would actually be better that'll do it so moving on to Toro when he has Mando come over he's Mando declines the job to bring in the super deadly galaxy known assassin which is a wise thing that Mando does to decline that it's a very very dangerous job but when Toro says he's new and has no experience he agrees to do the job yeah this would be another moment of Mando being ridiculously stupid like if you say it's a suicide mission and he's like if he feels sorry for the guy and wants to show him the ropes a bit and stuff and you know alright I'll help you out because you knew wow where'd that come from didn't you just say that he said no but then it's because he says yeah he's not looking for that wait so let's clarify right so the stakes of this proposition are Mando a pretty experienced dude is talking to Guy neutral at this point who's claiming that he's got a bounty to capture Mando is very strict in saying that I will not pursue this with you because she's incredibly dangerous the guy says hey I'm completely inexperienced yeah I'm completely inexperienced so that changes Mando's mind and if someone wanted to argue to me it's the fact that instead of getting half the pay you could get all of the pay Mando's point isn't about the pay it's about the danger yes it's the fact that he specifically says I don't need that kind of heat because this is when he remembers that baby Yoda is a thing and he doesn't want that kind of attention that this high profile target brings so I think what they were trying to pull off is that they're trying to show his compassion that he feels sorry for the young guy is probably going to get killed if he tries to run his own and when he finds out his news like alright I don't want to see you get killed I'll help you because ultimately under his helmet Mando is a really good guy yeah but if he thinks that it's going to kill him what good is it to help you just both die why wouldn't he be like no don't do it he doesn't think it's a suicide mission he thinks he'd be able to take it on but he first I'm willing but then I think he said that he wouldn't even do it did he? well he declines of course he wouldn't do it yeah Mando said no he leaves he walks away he's gone he says no I'm not looking for that kind of heat it's super dangerous oh you don't have any experience let's do it oh let's do it yeah yeah I'm just reading the subtitles he is fairly explicit that she's an elite one who's used to taking out she made her name by killing yeah he's looking for work but he's not looking for that kind of work okay yeah alright well then they just they just made the mistake of making it too tough because he clearly is looking for work yeah what's weird though is that the fee that it takes to get his ship repaired is apparently the money that someone carries around in their wallet I mean we can bring that up later if you want cause that's the end we will bring that up later but it's have the money for the repair and so forth nope nope he takes it from Toro which and Toro didn't get it from any bounty that's just what he has on him yeah he just pulled it just Toro's wallet that was enough so yeah moving on so he's got the the thob and Mando's like give me it and then he breaks it in his head how the hell does that work how that doesn't make sense you can't memorize the thob it's a homing device you can't memorize the thob he didn't break the thob he broke the thob he broke the thob I'm pretty sure he didn't even have a thob yeah he did have a thob but he broke the thob I will double check just to make sure but I am I can promise he broke the thob take a little look see oh yeah he says give me the tracking thob and he holds out his hand yeah and then he breaks it but this makes no sense you can't memorize the thob you can't memorize the thob it's a tracker also I have no idea why he broke it I guess because he assumed that Mando could kill him I guess he could memorize the location it was pointing because I guess he didn't want Mando to take the thob and run yeah and go with the bounty on his own I guess even though it's been valuable to the operation which I kind of understand but how the hell do you memorize a thob that doesn't make sense yeah if she moves you're fucked like this is insanely dumb he ruins the whole thing still goes along with the plan even after he breaks the thob in front of him he still goes with the plan he still goes with it and then again this episode is pretty damn bad so immediately after right his knowledge that this guy is desperate to get into the guild he's aware of the guild he got a job from the guild and he allows him to see baby Yoda while also being a Mandalorian I can't help but assume which is confirmed later actually but there's a story going around right now that reaches the port that he ends up in the next episode and it reached the assassin lady thereafter that there is a Mandalorian that did not well that took back his bounty that's a baby and he's on the run like why would you let anyone see baby Yoda why are you not saying hey lady keep him in the ship don't let anyone see him and of all the people you would have to see him why a guy who's directly evolved the guild and again like this is just mando being an idiot hey guys unfortunately I'm gonna have to call it quits that is absolutely alright over 60 hours oh my god it's fucking 10, 20 oh my goodness it's been heaps of fun and you know it was a good kind of relaxing thing to do before I head off to surgery tomorrow so lots of fun guys appreciate it sorry I can't say for the whole thing though well do you want to talk about what's coming for your channel even though technically speaking you're taking a month off sort of yes a lot everyone kind of already knows where I'm from so there's not much to say we post an update didn't we appreciate you guys appreciate the chat well yeah thank you for coming on and giving us quite the conversation to have I wish mando I know the thing is why I gotta go now with all the episodes I easily go for another 6 hours and I should really spend some time with the family yeah absolutely man thanks for hanging out for as long as you did and good luck with the surgery it'll be fine be the best patient you could be we look forward to your speedy recovery no sudden movements alright yeah so the surgery itself is the easiest part the damn recovery is gonna be miserable so anyhow I hope you're a good listener alright guys I'll catch you later see you later bye bye should we just try and machine gun these out yeah we can machine gun these out um yeah we got all these bullet points we can go through them I'll try to pay attention for chat to get some potential counters to a lot of these so we can go through so there is a delay on the stuff we say and when chat scrolls up so give it some time but if you think you have legit counters to some of the stuff we say or just funny jokes then buy all me and send them through yeah we're in EFAP after hours at this point we're into 5am britain time midnight almost for a lot of Americans if you're here with us tonight that means you're in the spooky after hours for EFAP you're a real fan this is real loving hours so we are at him seeing he lets baby Yoda be seen by Toro apparently he doesn't seem to care if people see him yeah it's very weird next up I only got a small thing which is the Tuscan Raiders magically appearing they like know where to be seen they only magically appear well I'll say they only magically appear to him who's inexperienced Mandalorian knows they're there but like I'm not sure where the hell they came from I guess they were just beyond the ridge um maybe the show does point out that they only surprise the green guy they do not surprise Mando he probably sees him walking up and is like gonna talk with him so I think it shows the skill gap between the two they're like behind him I'm willing to let that one go anyway um I have the do-back with the writer it's a fucking obvious ass trap it's just man just walk up to it I guess flip him right on over yeah and Mando relying on rookie man to defend him he's like okay instead of saying hey you go do it I know he has the armor but it just surprises me he's not he seems very trusting he's more trusting in humans and droids but I guess that's a part of his his character you think a guy in his position would just be really resistant to trust people very hesitant to place that kind of trust in strangers he just met but I guess he's just a really trusting guy you know those bounty hunters just just be trusting too wild and trusting guys that was racist whatever you just did you didn't get the reference I guess someone said why do you think his thermals would detect the mud horn when there's the predator movie so a mud horn is really big and it's inside of a cave that's fairly close to you and when it come to the predator Schwarzenegger specifically and the people who do that they are sapient and intelligent beings who are specifically trying to hide from the predator so I understand what you are saying I don't think that they all apply but I do understand what you're saying Rags has to love Mandalorian now take Shad's spot I'll fucking do it I'm sure he gets hit by by the second shot it seems to hit him in his bum and make loads of sparks I don't know what this means for Mandalorian it means he's got that fucking ass like fire he has a best car butt plug I managed to hit that yeah so they established that there is a sniper lady she hits him in his armor twice and they decide they'll wait till nightfall the weird part of this is that they want to wait till nightfall so they can flashbang her on the way to getting to her which would work in daylight I don't really know why they need to wait for nighttime because it's almost like an electrical because she's looking through a scope like a thermal scope essentially so they could have done that during the day I'm not going to count it against them though because it's a risk that he shouldn't take to assume that the scope is electronic and not optical so I'm fine with him waiting till night in that regard but my issue is why are you not taking these speeders and zooming all the way around to get to the to get to the stone why are you remaining out here until night time you need to be playing with your speeders behind the dunes immediately that's how it works in Star Wars you can only go forward you can only go through the hut you can only go through the desert to get to the place I gotta say this is another part where using his thermal vision would be very useful and he does not use it because he can see the do back with his thermal vision later in this episode from where she was sniping so he asked her where is she instead of him even making the attempt to use his thermal vision to try and spot her on the ridge so I don't know who Steve Martin is it's because I did the two crazy guys reference and you didn't acknowledge it I don't think I've seen that it's really good it's really good he had white hair for 60 years yeah, he's been panther yeah, Steve Martin and Dan Akroy too he's like a patchouli white hair he's one of those people who just never seemed to age because he got white hair early I guess this is more real life tech being applied to Star Wars no, I'm using the rules what they show they specifically show him in her spot where he can see using the thermals, the do back yeah, to which you would immediately think, well why didn't he use it earlier when he was trying to find her it's like he never gets fully aware of his arsenal and what he can use he always seems to be oblivious to what technology he has it is very strange because I play armor and all sorts of video games and rarely am I forgetting shit like thermal vision and grenades and equipment that I have you would think that if your life depended on it you would be really well attuned to your armor especially you got time to kill you might as well it was kind of weird that he concluded what make of sniper she has as of being shot by it yeah, how can he possibly know I guess that's how that works I don't know, I just thought it was like I like the idea that in the real world you shoot someone with a gun and they're like oh fuck, 17 there's gotta be times when you have tell certain things about certain guns it's a rifle blast like I don't really only a something something mark be your modified rifle could make that shot is like that's fucking bullshit this is star wars, do not tell me that only one rifle can be a sniper rifle fuck off there could only be one in the universe where there are apparently 70 million inhabited planets, therefore countless numbers of people in different weapons someone in the chat makes a good thing Mando should have used the thermals only to have them not work because the assassins clothing anti material that would have been nifty it would have made her more menacing he would have been like I can't see her on the thermals maybe she's using such and such fill in the blank tech that makes her more dangerous but then they sneak up on her anyway that's the worthwhile thing to think about with a lot of the flaws is there's always an opportunity to do something better with even with a little bit extra work like a little extra you know explanation and someone said they shouldn't have given him this much tech to begin with I agree because he doesn't use it anyway like if they would have given him a bunch of tech and he actually used it in logical ways I would have loved to see him using all his gadgets Andreas Edgewood said he gets shot in his armor a lot so he's learned to know the feeling is that real that doesn't bode well for him he's been shot a lot he can tell what guns are being shot at him like I'm so shit I'm really good at being shit I mean it would have just been easier if he's like shit he got hit and he's like hmm range tries to figure out range or something and tries to figure out you know what I mean it needs to be so specific or if he just said he's like did you hear that sound that sounds like a deathed rifle yeah exactly as opposed to the way that felt when I got hit it makes me think that it was this right oh he said it was a joke okay for a second there I was just like Jesus yeah and I would have been thinking if I was directing I would have been like it would have been so cool if in Star Wars that the blast hits him or the blast lands next to him and it's quiet and then you hear the laser going off that would have been a nice little detail that gun lover in me would have loved they let like a whole day pass while he's sleeping in front of a guy he's just met with baby Yoda so far away on its own I just it all seems so like wow he's so casual about all of this it just feels like he should be a little bit more concerned but he's very confident man it's nothing to do with his lack of I don't know intelligence it's all to do with the fact that he knows what's up and he's in control someone said he could see the heat of her gun that would be a nifty detail I'd have an issue with that that would be nifty it would show that like he knows to look for it or he knows to really zoom in or like she shot twice three times whatever so he's like he's looking for the hot bug there's all these rooms for these cool last little details that would give us an insight into all the tricks he's learned all of the training he's processed all the stuff that he's processed along the way to get him doing stupid shit all the time when assassin lady is like she knows the guy is behind her with a gun she like flips around throws it and it hits him and his gun knocks it out of his hand which happens again in the next episode if you remember yeah there are two consecutive episodes where someone comes up behind someone else with a gun a woman specifically and she turns around throws a knife and knocks the gun out of their hand and I'm like oh is that how it works I just watched the clip it doesn't knock it out of his hand it knocks his hand really far away and before he can re-aim it she kicks it out of him very strange yeah no it's effective the same thing no if someone throws a knife at your your gun it's not gonna be like wow that's what I mean I don't understand why he flips so far back it's like his gun was hit by a fucking pudge it's like she threw a knife at you mate calm down it's one of those it's almost like throwing star sized as well it's not very big also like it's really weird that these people have all this incredible training with throwing knives in the Star Wars galaxy yeah like that seems like a really specific skill that like man alright like I get it she's an assassin but then the person in the next episode she's good at throwing knives like man everyone knows how to throw knives in space they're not even like space knives they're just sharp metal they glow blue in the next episode she has blue knives ranks they glow blue that means they're space knives fucking space knives was a heavy knife so what Fennec has apparently got so Fennec is the name of the assassin by the way Fennec has a rendezvous point to get to why'd she stay here yeah it's just a good good place to shoot people who are coming after I guess also he doesn't take his because someone brings it up I don't want to forget the point for later someone says Mando probably has the gun and knows what equipment goes with it don't know if if he had it why does he use why does he not use it ever why is it never brought up it isn't shown on his gun rack or anything like that also I think it's really strange that a bounty hunter who wants to have very non-lethal options especially at range carries a disintegrating laser that leaves no body behind comment if necessary I was distracted by vibro blades apparently that's what's being used is vibro blades many people have said it apparently it's a thing um and I know this is taking video games into account but I know in everything from dishonored to Metal Gear Solid to Splinter Cell and all that stuff non-lethal takedowns at a distance are extremely valuable but he has a disintegrator rifle which just seems like a bounty hunter who would want to if he kills somebody it could be the mark he has to kill he might need confirmation of the kill so a disintegrator leaves no body and even earlier in the original trilogy Vader says no disintegrations to Boba Fett right because bodies need to be confirmed or brought in I mean it's weird I'm not sure what how that works it doesn't bother it doesn't bother me much I just think it's really weird um someone says utilizing throwing knives makes some sense rags normal people do not have access to lightsabers in universe that is an interesting therefore like I know I understand that it makes like logical sense that it's a thing that is done but like like back to back we have two people who are so good with throwing knives they could spin around and specifically throw the knife to hit guns out of people's hands it just seems like a very specific skill Fibro Fibro blades can disable lightsabers oh uh so yeah they capture um yeah they capture her he shows up Mando trusts this guy enough that he's going to go and retrieve the do back and leave him with her and a speeder that could easily take them both away um a lot of trust to put into that guy and it's not rewarded because the guy decides that after what he finds out from the girl that he can go and get the bounty by taking baby Yoda hostage and using it to try and kill Mando he kills Krennick can whatever assassin it's not Krennick because that's a rogue one um yeah he kills it and he doesn't sling her body on the back of the speeder because you can do that uh to collect the bounty he just leaves the body because he thinks that it's much more worth it to just set up this whole Mando killing pose to you know just putting her on the bike and potentially getting double the money no yeah yeah it's it's really strange and here's the thing it's really strange that rookie guy doesn't do it that's the whole reason he's fucking out here in the first place no he's a rookie he gets really he thinks he's biting off more than he can chew ranks he thinks like yeah I could go for the silver medal but I want to go for gold oh boy even though getting the silver medal he can also get the gold medal too just two gold medals but also it's super super weird that Mando doesn't take the body either he specifically took this job for the money I'm guessing he needs money he legitimately just doesn't bring the body that's worth a lot of money well so let's do some logistics shall we uh they night full they go to attack her and they go from where they were hiding around where the do-back was uh all the way to her and then Mando immediately goes back to get to the do-back right so the time it takes him to get to the do-back and back to them it's day how long is it going to take him to get from that spot on that creature all the way back to Moss Isley someone say he's not after the money it'll be an immense amount of time we're talking like a week yeah someone say he's not after the money is like but it's like he's basically turning down money it's free prestige it's not even about the money yeah this is free prestige and free money like the whole reason that um the whole reason like because remember both the new guy he needs the body for the prestige the money that comes along with it I mean he says he's not in for the money but like that's free money that comes along with it at this point especially if he's planning to double cross Mando how is he going to give it to the guild actually how is Mando going to claim the money if he's on the bad side well he could probably hire someone to do it I'm sure that there's yeah I'm sure that there's not just there's a way right like like the guild isn't the be-all end all of bounty hunting in fact he could make a deal with a bounty hunter he could be like pay me now and I'll give you this bounty for free well not for free obviously it doesn't lose anything by taking the body anyway and there's potentially very good rewards and he needs the money that's the important thing also gonna say really really bugs me that they don't take her amazing rifle and scope and helmet yeah mine as well like I am and we have this problem in a later episode but man you got this new green guy and he's learning the ropes he wants prestige probably would that make an excellent trophy because you took it from this specific person but that is an incredibly valuable useful tool that you will need like this rifle is probably worth a lot of money he could use it in the future the fact that they just don't take things that are super useful bugs the shit out of me um so that pushes it all the way up to when he actually gets back I guess um uh yeah they mentioned guild rates because in the first episode he says there's a lot of business but not everybody wants to pay guild rates there's plenty of places to get bounties and turn in bounties that don't involve the guild also there's no way that's the only guild there's no way if there are 70 million inhabited planets then there's more than one guild yeah don't tell me that Carl Weathers runs the whole galaxy's guild from this one the one guild in the galaxy I can only pay you in flam from flanville in real credits that's all I have he's like yeah there's no way there are many guilds there's a flan guild trade exclusive flan uh so next to me was just when he's like reveals himself to Bando he's like here I am Amanda's got like a clean shot of his head and he doesn't take it and it's like okay I guess he thought it was too dangerous to try but he does later when it's essentially the same scenario except not really like the the guy still holding baby Yoda yeah he waits for a worse time to shoot instead of that's the thing how you want to make Mando badass Toro walks out of the ramp with her and baby Yoda in his hand and remember Mando's already pointing his gun at him they're having a standoff he just fucking pops him in the head just right there just doesn't even say where a 28 04 ish the guy is like taking aim and he looks like he's gonna fire and I'm just curious what is he aiming for it looks like he's aiming for Mando's head just gonna do fuck all why does everybody keep aiming in his head it's like a stab it is very weird I guess because we know that his best car armor will stop blaster bolts he's seen him get hit twice but he's like I'm gonna hold you up with a blaster like okay it's really lucky he didn't just execute baby Yoda when he does this whole flashbang plan yeah but um yeah looks like he wins he takes the money off his corpse and it's enough to pay for the repairs we mentioned earlier I'm like we covered Mando doesn't shoot Toro Toro threatens to shoot Mando despite knowing his armor Mando shoots Toro after the distraction I'll be standing still with the gun already raised at him so Mando gives her money taken from Toro so the amount of money as I said before with Shad the amount of money that he needed to get in order to fix his ship and pay her and be on his way it was the amount of money that apparently the guy carries around in his wallet like he literally wins down the wallet and just doesn't even count it he just dumps it into her hand I guess it was a sign of him saying this is all I have hopefully it's enough I guess so okay let me see the majority criticism from fans in general this kid was invented for this episode and he was killed the assassin was invented for the episode and he was killed the ship was damaged for the episode and repaired and Mando leaves and so it's like inconsequential nothing's accomplished by this episode nothing's accomplished by this episode gosh shows up right at the end gosh shows up right at the end well here's the thing that doesn't actually that's of no significance if anything it hurts because shouldn't you then have access to oh baby Yoda where are you it doesn't solve anything there are other tracking fobs on her body of course other bounty hunters would show up and I guess a bounty hunter just gets a freebie so it's lucky him I guess which is fine but it's of no surprise that someone shows up to her body you would expect that but this is an episode where nothing happens that's meaningful and one of our complaints is that they breeze by a lot of stuff that really needed a lot more development and you have episodes like this and the next episode where just stuff doesn't happen like next episode is completely filler yeah it's total and I'm fine with filler but the problem is that it's at the expense of rushing other stuff they're rushing other stuff that needs to develop before I feel should we uh what critical episode yeah I was just gonna say because like we're at seven hours we need at least try to get some super chats done before we hit the timer and theoretically if we got six seven and eight should we just do this again once Shad is back or I'm fine with that because episode like these I have a lot of notes for these mm-hmm we are not going to get through I don't actually yeah I was gonna say I didn't even realize this but apparently half of my notes are episodes six seven and eight so yeah six seven yeah they are they are a big chunk six is really I got a lot of issues there's so much filler in this show there is yeah I think we'll have to save us for the next time we talk about it I guess but like filler isn't inherently bad or anything just when the plot is already being rushed as it is and half of the episodes superfluous stuff doesn't happen on the middle like stuff doesn't happen that's meaningful in these specific episodes like he begins and ends with nothing having been accomplished that they are filler episodes like the plot is not advanced in any way cause you think about the plot of episode one when the plot starts so there's obviously a lot going on episode two is maybe Yoda knows the force but that's not that's that's sort of like not important to later then episode three is obviously really a plot important episode four totally a tangent it's a complete tangent lots of stuff happens but it's not directly tethered to the baby Yoda thing episode five happens and it's over and nothing's changed episode six happens and it's over and like five and six are the real filler episodes yeah and we're fine with filler as an idea we're fine but you have you only have eight episodes here like you don't have a lot of time for filler there are only eight episodes here a fourth of episodes that are in there a lot and not even 40 minutes long a lot of them are less than 40 minutes this is not a lot of content yeah this one is like this episode is let me go to the credits the credits are at four minutes and at least nine four and that five minutes in so yeah this is like a 25 minute episode yeah again it's a problem because so much is really rushed before this and after this that needs to be developed for it to be impactful but instead we're fucking around in the desert and so I was going to say like hopefully we have provided a lot of food for thought about Mandalorian perhaps people won't take it that seriously and that it seems more like nitpicks or it's exploring some stuff that maybe people weren't as aware of who knows because we'll find out in the comments I have a feeling that this one is going to be controversial but we will return I suppose once Shad comes back we'll try and organize an episode for the remaining three episodes and I was going to say I just I'm happy to kick all my super chats and this is anything else anyone wants to say not right now now no all of our complaints have been on a spectrum we've talked about stuff that even we admit is nitpicky but we're just bringing it up anyway all the way to really really impactful stuff that's huge and everything in between not all of the criticisms we have should be placed on the same scale and of the same importance and I think a lot of the little stuff really adds up into a big pile yeah we still have six seven and eight which are bad set and kind of piqued my hope in the first half but then right at the end yeah completely plummeted and yeah I don't think anyone can say it's a circle joke on EFAP at least with this episode for sure I don't understand what you can say that yeah just like I said there will be a lot of motivation ascribing people avoid it as best as possible but um I know we're gonna get the whole you just don't like anything Disney alright yeah well we were on record of that not being true so we want it to be good like guys we want this to be really good I want to be excited in the same way I'm excited for the next Batwoman episode like I want to be like oh sweet the next Mandalorians out I can't wait for the kickass amazing character to just be doing stuff and watching his exploits and seeing how the story progresses like guys I want good shows to watch especially if there are Star Wars and we've had such terrible Star Wars stuff yeah it'd be good to have some good Star Wars content and of course it's not as bad as the sequel films it's not and it's not like maliciously bad and like I'd say it's not insultingly bad it's not it's just incompetently made yeah we're incompetently written I'll specify incompetently written and I'm not sure who that I guess it comes down on John Fabro because he wrote a lot of the episodes and here's the show run because I know that I saw in the comment people like oh episode 4 Bryce Dallas Howard directed this like how much blame can you square on directors for television shows I don't think you can do a lot I think it's mainly the writing team that you got a hold accountable to the show it's John Fabro and Bryce Dallas Howard and Dave Filoni to a degree right I just hate Ben someone said wait what six seven and eight is bad then by definition you consider the entire season bad he's like buddy where have you been I mean yeah what do we we'd rather give it a three at the beginning of this so I gave it a three man I gave it a four I think you're showing good as much as I wanted it to be yeah and there are good arts yeah trust me guys like if you saw how I was reacting to the show you would have seen the disappointment on my the disappointment I had as it deteriorated was really even after episode 4 I was like oh I still get better it's a better episode now but it could get better and by time episode like how worried we were when we watched episode 3 like we were worried and then 4 came out and we were like well I think there was a logic of like that was one that was sort of fillery though like it could be ignored like hopefully they kick it back up with the plot episodes that plot didn't come until 7 it was like yeah it's way too but you could have stretched out the material this season for a while you could have done 3 or 4 seasons with this material and it's funny because people sat in it like let's just want it to you just want it to you know meander along but it's you know you need that time it's valuable time someone said Tycho why did he ruin episode 10 hands down or whichever one he did that's episode 8 and yes he did 8 is terrible what do you mean like in that episode you like oh do you mean because you like Jojo Rabbit and he made that so I love Ragnarok and I love Jojo Rabbit yeah he directed episode 8 and it is terrible he directed episode 8 who's John P. addressing it says so you're arguing it's as bad as Batwoman Rise of Skywalker last Jedi and Captain Marvel you're high on cracks like does Eddie would actually think that no like I look forward to Batwoman it's terrible it is yeah like no way zero on the scale is Tism Infinity Tism's right Batwoman's like a one yeah and that's where the Star Wars sequels are about one to one and a half range yeah maybe it's worth what's at the scale here zero is yeah like Crysis on it that's one is the Star Wars sequel I think that's going to be the bottom of my scale I don't know there's anything worse than Crysis they break every possible rule you could ever have like it's incomprehensibly bad I couldn't believe that the plot is actual nonsense the CGI is terrible the writing's horrible it's just everything's bad whereas in Mandalorian like at least the production values everything is really good but and the acting's good as well but whereas yeah with Crysis that's gone I mean yeah but the scale I guess like someone saying oh come on it's a six at least it's like six things good you know six is good yeah I don't see how it shows a six it's above average is the Mandalorian above average from a writing standpoint absolutely no way no what was the question sorry oh it's just because someone that was basically saying really it's at least a six the Mandalorian did Ragsay wreck it Ralph instead of Ragnarok did wreck it Ralph I like to wreck it Ralph though but did he do wreck it Ralph no I wanna watch Thor Rack it Ralph I wanna see Thor Rack Thor Brick season well he was playing Fortnite maybe he did yeah it'll be a perpetually promised episode as in the next time we do the second half of this but we'll get there eventually though it looks like it'll be at least a month though crap in I guess but uh yeah you guys good for me to start reading out these super shorts yeah fucking do I will skip ones directed at Shad and save them for the intro to the next time he is on this show we'll save them all up for him this one just says oh my god what's your biggest issues with Pirates of the Caribbean at Will's End I can't even fucking remember which one that is that's the third one normally you have to go upside down to exit Purgatory I can't even remember it's been so long since I've seen them Davey Jones locker I guess I would have to rewatch it the last time I watched it was I wanna say a year ago and for some reason I have forgotten a lot of it like it wasn't even that long ago uh and why do people never my head together like a blender and why do people never mention Elizabeth Swan as a strong female character I suppose because of how bad the later Pirates movies are that people kind of forget about it um most people don't remember Will Turner as a character I guess the issue is that because we always default to Ripley and Sarah Connor because they're such great examples but people now think that there's insidious intent when someone says those two they're like oh of course you would so now we need to find different better examples they're really good examples people have ascribed political motivations behind citing those two now around that you have to cite different people yeah we use those examples because they're so good yeah it's kind of funny how good a lot of 80s movies are on the object committee scale like Die Hard's really high on there uh Terminator well Terminator 2 is the 90s Terminator 1 even Predator yeah sorry I've distracted are any of you going to watch the Sonic movie yeah I figured we would say the free movies or at least some of us will I was gonna just go watch it what if the reviews come out and it's really good well the thing is because of course initially my reaction when they fixed the CD I was oh no instead of having a meme bad movie it's just gonna be bad but there's some clips coming out and it doesn't look too bad I'm sure it's probably just gonna be accurate best if I could but yeah I mean I will want to see it but I'm not gonna go to the cinema to see it and I'll be interested to see what the reviews are like numbers see what everyone's saying should be amusing um and so it begins also the wills of the wisps are shown in Clone Wars season 6 but you stopped watching for that long time ago didn't you Mola I did stop yeah I will do my best one day to restart I suppose the Mandalorian is some people's last hope in Star Wars can't wait to see you destroy it I mean I think you know season 2 could be good yeah it could be good but I could you know I have it is a new hope but you know it's not gonna be the only one they're gonna be making more and more stuff hopefully one day they will strike gold you guys like how Gideon needs baby Yoda alive so he sends flamethrower trooper into Burnham alive yes it's so stupid and none of them choose to shoot the flamethrower dude they all just allow themselves to be killed but then baby Yoda's like nah I got this bro such a weird moment because he's just it like even goes to like slow mo of everybody just reacting to him in the room like even if they have guns in their hands you take it one by one you're like IG11 would obviously insta kill this guy but just doesn't Mando despite being injured has access to his pistol can see the guy come and he's just like well we're fucked Cara dude he's got this gun in his hand he's got two it's such a stupid moment that episode is really retarded it's unfortunate we couldn't get it tonight but honestly if Shad had stayed I don't sure if we could have gotten through like all of it before the stream cap it took surprisingly long we had a big old conversation about the fobs but I'm really curious if season 2 is just going to shut that down in terms of what they actually do I wonder if it'll like be definitive or not because I think that I just think they're avoiding explaining it on purpose because it's really tough to be definitive about what they do well they work themselves into a corner yeah the fobs are just a bad idea and I think they're yeah I agree I think they're a bad idea they shouldn't have had the fobs um I'm just going to read this one out U U Pickle P Pickle P Me Me Pumperum alright just want to make sure you guys hear that so they try to make a magic aids I mean school bus episode of Star Wars I mean I guess coming out of my bum would be a great climax I don't know what to make of that yeah alright I messed up a super chat last time I have to say you should EFAB one of his movies like you did with Chris his? as I'm referenced so um uh oh right yeah we could I mean I guess we watched parts of it it was offline but we were looking over so doing the people get very upset when you review a youtubers movie because that's like mean even though you know that's like what you don't like Chris Duckman's work uh no I don't none of it wow um yeah maybe I don't know do do do uh I got really drunk one night with some friends while watching the Mandalorian and called Mando the Matadorian because he's played by Pedro Pascal huh nice have you seen cinema wins new video he says every movie will fall apart when you look at it objectively then says Lord the Rings is full of contrivances yes full? sure depends uh you have to give me some references wait what do you mean full sure uh yeah I say that like dismissively like I don't buy it like you have to like you have to make your case on that one that it's full of contrivances I mean we I don't think I don't know if Fringy has I guess he can speak for himself but uh we have watched the cinema wins and sins videos on Joker they're both very well cinema sins videos very bad makes those mistakes cinema wins is one quite a few good points in there quite a few that are like wow you're reading into that and reaching and then this weird shit he goes on several rounds about how the film is being made political uh which isn't necessarily untrue it's just like it feels odd in his video because he's like look how good this movie is also it's not making people kill each other you're like alright um yeah yeah and then he he like concludes like yeah there are problems in the film but every film has problems when you look at it objectively and it's really weird because he dismisses it but he's also conceding then that that's what objectively would mean that you look at those flaws he says there's a razor thin line between amazing movie in a terrible movie and i'm like it's a weird weird weird one yeah hit the second half of his part two is just just just fucking autism but um it's a really good candidate to have our very first episode where we cover a cinema wins and sins video back to back yeah um well yeah because a lot of people don't like cinema sins but they like cinema wins because he's positive being positive in an accurate is fine being negative in an accurate is well that's wrong this is it's funny right because this is an opinion that a lot of people actually hold right where they're like you know you know it's the same thing of like you're opinionated and that's something they'll say if you say something negative but if you say something really positive you're not opinionated you're just nice you know like it's kind of the double standard of being nice and negative people just dislike negative well hit the tagline for his channel is like because loving things is more fun than hating things or something like that okay i mean i like to bang movies yes uh are you guys going to go through the leaked scripts slash how jj got screwed by disney in depth all i plan to do is to read a like script summary of what colin trevor's script for episode nine was and that would be uh next week uh also i got to admit first few times you guys reference shad i thought you meant a different shad yes yes a lot of people have i don't even know i don't think there's another chat out there there may be one or two the only one we got them on lockdown speaks in sheave i have waited a long time for this by the way watched john wick to the other night the best part of it was ruby rose's lack of spoken lines woman should only speak when spoken to a women should only speak when spoken to i'm just thinking the reason she's fine in that is because she has she doesn't have any lines i was going to say she's downright uh neat in that film she's fine but it's probably like if anything when we watch the episodes 10 11 of batwoman which will be coming eventually people uh i really couldn't help but notice her acting like i was just like oh oh it's so weird um the oh by the way you guys are going to love the videos episode 10 11 real doozy yeah they got infatisms 5 and batwoman and 11 uh coming to moola eventually uh no problem exactly they are wild i mean we hit the ground running ladies and gents but we lost our shit within the first like minute of the first batwoman episode it was so wonderful oh yeah because batwoman forgets the momentum exists it's wonderful you'll see soon enough it's incredible yeah and that ends with other than that it was shit um john mc2 was shit i don't know what you mean uh john mc3 was definitely shit and metal commander will happily explain that to all of us in possibly like two weeks to a month's time very excited and then he's going to make a john mc2 video uh so that will prove that it's bad that's going to go out of real well i feel like both of those are going to be controversial videos to start with well the john mc1 is definitely controversial there are a lot of people who still think john mc is really good yeah but not john mc1 is really good but two and three yeah yeah one is great i love john mc awesome yeah uh there's a reason like again there's a reason why we hate the things we do and you could all tie them back to pretty consistent you know criteria oh hate the thing i thought you meant hate the things we do is in the actions we take rather than hate the things that we hate oh no the hate the things that we hate yeah this one says try dark souls too if you've never played it don't listen to mohler he's being a complain boy it's a good game just level adp and have fun i mean i would recommend you play it if you're a dark souls fanatic it's just that uh don't assume it's your fault when the things go horribly wrong that's all that's good game design yes green man good also rags how can the dragon demands get in touch with you he'd love to go on e-fab and he believes in objective standards and has many long man documentaries uh best way would probably be dm on twitter or at me on discord or email yeah these has he tried any of those yet because um i usually catch a lot of what comes in i do miss stuff i um and a lot of stuff ends up in spam i really hate that about email it sends a lot of useful things to spam but i mean it's just trying to protect me so you know dude dude hey guys love your work for those of you that play it how are you guys enjoying halo on pc and do you think an e-fab gaming on it could be in the future halo on pc has been fun but i they need to add in halo one two and three i'm kind of sick of reach i need to add everything i want forge i want theater and it's not right it's not reaches fault as a game it's not 343 like somehow fucked up a lot of stuff about it which is inexplicably incompetent the spawns the you the user interface is a mess yeah the changes to the progression and unlocking the dmr starts no forge like there is just some baffling apparently there's some bad audio issues going along like man they took a game that you didn't have to do anything to and changed it and made it worse it is so frustrating it's one of the problems with 343 in general i seem to think that their ideas are all great you know it's like i know the bungee had these ideas we can do it better and every single time it's worse like just leave it alone just don't touch it and and yeah it's taking a little bit too long to release the new games can you add them in and add in forge and you know theater mode and these other features and yeah no theater mode so yeah i forgot and i mean there's split screen is there split screen support on our pc i do not know i'm gonna look that up cuz like man surely they know that nobody thinks about four and five as like first off let alone good but definitely not nearly as good as you know one through reach nobody think everyone thinks bungees is better and 343 is just making all these changes is like what do you stop stop like you're killing halo in some respect it must be weird to be a studio that has been created solely to continue a series that you didn't make um that must be a weird position of being where for the rest of your existence you're gonna be making a game yeah like when you haven't done well and you sort of got halo infinite and they're being weird and quiet for a game that's coming out at the end of the year i wonder if they're gonna talk about it soon cuz they have to it's time is short the xbox series x is coming out like october or november and we don't know anything about halo infinite we don't know what it plays like we don't know what the story is but yeah um so yeah um if you if you think halo infinite will i do not know why you would think that yeah you have no reason to really believe curious why you would think that that thing that you think doing like a maybe halo reach on legendary with four players on e-fab gaming is totally a possibility uh i'm i'm down for it it's totally doable um so no sure and it ended in also high rags ah hello first live e-fab got my viagra lube and tissues oh my god uh did you hear the leaked audio of johnny depp and amber hood she confesses she hits him and tells johnny to stop worrying about it hashtag johnny depp is innocent yes and she's she's under more and more fire as time goes on um well did you guys listen to um there was a video where it was an audio recording of something on the session that they were having mm-hmm yeah it was bad it was really bad yeah he's um people are very sorry for not uh believing him at this point i think which is uh interesting with all of the like believe women stuff that goes on it's like maybe believe people sometimes depending on maybe maybe believe evidence yeah mm-hmm in e-fab two you use palpatine coming back in a hyperbolic joke and that was months before the trailer for episode nine came out also high rags but i feel like a lot of people would have joked about that like oh yeah they'll bring poppy back lol there's like oh they brought palpatine back they ran with a joke okay i guess somebody lost a bet at lucas film i don't even know react to snar wars three revenge of the sif please revenge of the sift i'm guessing that's some kind of like parody video i don't know but uh if mola would you consider replacing wolf spot um yeah i guess i mean i'll also be replacing my spot at the same time sense no one can have my spot i'm a guest i've heard brexit happened congrats on the uk regaining its independence also when fobs appeared in mando i was like the writing will be shit here i mean you are correct i just think that uh they didn't want to have to explain how he could possibly find a lot of targets that are galaxy wide i guess but you still didn't necessarily need the fobs you could just just been good at his job yeah you could do the you know you have montages and talking different people and tracking different things and just give us some nice calls and effect for how he would have been able to find certain things and i mean this is the thing i'm changing the entire season at this point but i really would have been settled but you know the payoff of him killing the robot and rescuing baby yoda that could have been the season finale for me and um it would have been a really great mix of genres because bounty hunting would be like part detective part heist part action you know these are all you know aspects of it that kind of mix together boy noir in space yeah but uh you know we'll see what they do with season two hi rags season two hello thanks for turning me on the masquerade it was phenomenal love you massives oh god you like it appeals are coming up february 18th for vik minyana fair enough best of luck hopefully justice is served also yeah if anyone feels like they're not having the thing read but it had somebody do a shad in it like i said i'm just i've stolen and kept all of them so far we've got 11 already so they shall be savoury for him uh they're not one of the e-faps about movie circle jerk it's disheartening to know that the film community is so negative to discussion and differing ideas anyway keep up the good guys keep up the good work guys sorry yeah they don't like us we will keep up the good guys they do not like us they don't like you movie circle jerk they uh they don't like us no no no they spent eight hours talking about half the mandalorian god why did they just say it with shit or good just say what you think and don't standshed it at all and then just yeah uh dp dp is now proudly sponsored by raid shadow legends they sought out the sponsorship themselves i there enough and i hope that they keep the show going with all the money i hope that it keeps them i don't know anybody who isn't sponsored by raid shadow legends except e-fap everybody in this cold yeah oh well yeah uh that's kind of what i bet by e-fap i guess well the regulars of e-fap like jay hasn't been sponsored by them yet right not me yet um yet oh that's for shed e-fap sponsors raid shadow legends rhino milk um i would allow them to sponsor us if they had models in game that were a long man and a dog and a frog and these kind of things like doctor come on okay but alternate skin big frogo all right uh if e-fap was a theme park what rides restaurants and stands would it have which hosts would have what kinds of rides also high rags hello i think i would just be a big roller coaster the entire thing is one arm that's stretching all the way across the whole thing um i don't know what else what else guys spooky and e-fap ride a spiky oh i know it's a haunted house where people jump out and say stupid things like there's no such thing as objective all all words only have one definition yeah that's cool in my subjective opinion and then you just scream in horror and then they come out rocking in like a position rags could have like a brothel or something it could be his theme park ride we're going there huh yeah let's do it i mean you can make the suggestion yeah everybody e-fap world e-fap world yes we need lots of things to be kept alive but the only thing that's not long here are the lines yeah that's a good yeah e-fap world yo fring boat with my favorite honky long boys toot fring boat uh fring boat hi fellas have you seen that there's a new stars comic revealed how mas canata got the lightsaber sent you a meme about it on twitter i've heard about this so they have provided they've kicked the can down the road as we would say apparently when the lightsaber in empire was falling down the in tebespin a hooded figure caught it no okay okay uh they get it to mas i guess apparently more of the story will be revealed across the comics but that's the biggest thing about it so far it's just like satisfying answers i don't know what you need i would have got it just like the kind of thing we want um okay hey fellas have you seen that there's a new oh wait i read that already we got that one oh boy bracing myself for this one like i also think season one is jankers frick especially the finale how do you have zero knowledge of the force you survived the clode wars but i know i like it a lot more than rags yeah i think i have it brought up as well in a later episode one of my points is people like there's no way the universe forgets about the jedi there's just no way it'd be like even in the 1970s they're like so what's a Nazi it's like this is not gonna happen um yeah no i completely agree with that as well the clone wars would have been majorly impactful to him and uh the clone wars ended with all of the jedi being killed so wouldn't people be like wait what are the jedi and be like no nothing uh hi rags if you go outside but you shit with the door shut how do you get back inside the house hmm that's a trade secret and mules lee any thoughts on ford vs ferrari i need to watch it there's still a couple oscar movies i need to see i'm behind on that i've been uh distracted with oh yeah i best so i have completed one of two april fools videos i'm very happy with the state of one of them the other one is being edited by mr. das bullshit so that's one his way right now i am two thirds of the way through the next redraft of tfa part three which has been interesting i've had to cut lots of bits and bobs to do with uh things that are no longer accurate uh definitively instead like speculation i speculated what um all of it could mean about kylo talking to vader's mask and we have all the answers now so i can actually be definitive about it the brilliant answer yes i did it so uh i should need like one or two more days to finish redrafting that recording it editing and sorting it out and then once that one goes out my next plan is to actually go for joker so that is what should be happening uh unless i'm i'm hoping 2020 will be the year where i catch up with all my stuff because nothing new and shocking will come out but that never seems to be something i can rely on unless black widow is really bad and ret cons for war in a negative way yeah yeah i like how these are things we have to think about now with movies what if this new movie comes out and ruins the old life that's the thing like we love joker i am terrified for a sequel i am sorry i know i am terrified for obi one series yeah like you know like it feels like rolling a dice and and well rolling the dice and you only get like the only good answer is snake eyes as in the likelihood of getting it good so i'm like just don't roll it i don't want to risk the other results i just don't want it um but fuck if we get those snake eyes though it's always associated with a loss you know what i mean though double six is whatever just i don't know um when i get my book published in a few years and become the next shakespeare i'll be sure to give you boys a shout out uh thank you i guess also there is a hmm not going well there's a thing that says uh scala grim versus shad sword fight save that for him very funny got my pocket pussy and mini bullet from amazon today going to use it while watching this later tonight baby gonna be a lot of self discovery for the next few hours hashtag blessed i can go for it gotta go go with the flow at that point uh more say my name in a welsh accent was that michael and andriotti so be like michael andriotti be a nice and well any of you seen sargon's black panther video if so what did you think i think i might have watched it but i can't remember it now if it came out i saw it but it's been so long i can't quite recall it uh i thought it was real good in the context of the framework you used to analyze it i honestly can't remember what the video is um um greetings you massives my birthday was a few days ago long man my birthday wishes for you to sing the birthday song in your best gadel voice can you do that for me also high rags i don't want to sing the fucking birthday song stupid gadel voice there's i'm just gonna say happy birthday and happy birthday to you happy birthday to you that's probably what it would sound like mark frown happy birthday to you to you to you happy birthday to you yet this is weird pauses the time uh rags which moran not sue character would you ah moran sue character thank god auto fills all right images what is oh these are animal people um let's see i am gonna go with they like that gray wolf there and the bear they are both yeah i guess those would be the that's tied between i i don't know their names or what they're from or anything about their personalities going straight from the looks there there you go uh rags do you have any musical talent because i want you to play me like a trombone oh my god we would play such sweet music um but i do i played i haven't played it in a while but i uh took piano lessons for like nine years and i was not to toot my own horn uh but i was rather good i can't hear you you're tooting your own horn what are you saying oh my god you see that's the thing i didn't actually take two horn lessons um but uh yeah played piano pretty good at it just grew out i just not grew out of it i mean like i i grew to just not care about it anymore i just didn't interest me things where parents make you do it and you don't want to do it so yeah maybe you're good at it but your heart isn't in it and once they say you don't have to do it anymore you're like i don't want to do it anymore mm-hmm i want to do something fun interesting that i care about it rags yo you're going to try getting willed of darkness to sponsor e-fap or do they only endorse streams with nazis oh my goodness i hope that world of darkness if we can't get world of darkness to officially sponsor in the claws of the eagle then yeah maybe e-fap is the a next good a good second place um banned for the discord from the discord for posting femboy luke skywalker hashtag no regrets femboy luke skywalker all right uh that's a sad one e-fap have any of you seen the edge thoughts the edge i don't recognize that i'm afraid the edge movie it is from 1996 this is the one with uh or 1997 or 1990 yeah 1997 i do not know what this is looks like it's uh like a survival action kind of movie wait who's an anthony hopkins alec Baldwin yeah i don't know about this oh my god bart the bear is in it he plays the bear well that makes the most sense it's on the cast list uh outside of the sequels what is the least practical star wars ship slash vehicle in is the in theory the tlj bombers have some use was it outside of the sequels oh outside of the sequels oh outside of this most impractical space ships outside of star wars outside of the sequels outside of the sequels um i don't know i don't um i'm just trying to think of ships and stuff you can choose a ship or a vehicle um i feel like the um the yeah the the trade federation like tanks that have the two wheels that spin at an angle um or a fed which ones are there ships i'll get you a second um images i will get one for you here if i can find a picture of it it's showing me all the ones from episode one which are actually probably perfectly fine tanks in fact i don't have an issue with them at all those are the death star uh there are a couple people who criticize the 8080s so it's this one here i'll put it in chat outside of the sequels that oh hellfire seems to be yeah the hellfire droids i don't know what they were called but yeah those seem super impractical we just hate wheels rags is that it but yeah 8080s i think are very impractical they're very imposing sure but you could be imposing and practical yeah they look cool but they're impractical um but generally by the way one of the tanks that generally pops up are uh are these ones and i really like these tanks these tanks are actually kind of cool i think they're really practical in the 80s yeah the way that they're shaped they kind of deflect a lot of shots they got all kinds of stuff in the bottom the turret can swivel all around they got turrets on the side i think these are kind of cool in fact i remember them from battlefront too yeah you guys know the uh the old like see-through books and stuff that had all of the yeah all of yeah the for star wars those were insanely good i loved those books those cross-section books man you could just read those for ages that's awesome look at that those are so great maybe if i can get some high res pics of these but i remember like everything from the republic cruisers to the uh tanks and stuff these cross-sections how it works on the inside i'm like man especially if you're a kid that's the thing the prequels they weren't good movies but man if you were a kid especially your imagination would run wild with all the stuff that was in there it really expanded the the universe in a crazy good way um hi everyone except rags also hi rags oh hello hello i never got why if one taps into the dark side they are better lightsaber fighting more aggression doesn't make one better just different style the impression that you were better because you tapped into the dark side yeah i never i never knew that the way that it worked was that it was easier to tap into the dark side not that it was any better if you know i mean like it's easier whereas being a jedi is a harder path but it's a path to greater power i don't know that true considering the amp the emperor yeah but remember Darth Vader beats the emperor he throws him off a thing no yeah that's right no he didn't ah yeah alright maybe um well i guess so because it was the dark side that killed palpatine because he couldn't stop shooting lasers electricity out of his finger how like he would just melt himself wouldn't he just stop shooting electricity shooting electricity stop it speaking of epic fights doom eternal is looking fantastic i'd also like to apologize it is i would also like to apologize for telling you guys to watch jojo rabbit again i missed the beginning where you guys mentioned it in efap 70 what are your thoughts on it um i enjoyed it a lot of jojo rabbit i really liked the performances i quite enjoyed what you called the message of the film a lot of the jokes had me laughing and the drama hit quite well too um though very much deliberately they play with tone quite a bit in that movie like comedic to dramatic is swapping in and out regularly yeah i think it works really well and dare i say it it's kind of a theme and it works really well because they do it well despite making up just 13 percent of all dc comics i represent 50 percent of more or less favorite heroes bill nigg yes the steamboat baggins oh my gosh i cannot was that them trying to get you to say the follow-up one from this person says i cannot believe that went through well i mean remember that the one that the one that gets through at least if you've seen wings of redemptions rage rage compilations or troll name compilations is nick go that's that's the one that seems to go read that too fast no you got it you go deliberately or say nicolas go that's probably the way to get around it rags have you got your albion yet i have if so what do you think very very oh it's very impressive i think it is a fine piece of work i love it i take it out of the closet where it's temporarily resting and i swing it around half hazardly all the time it's great i love it it is so cool to have it huge fan just saving up more for shed oh my god opinion on internet historians game of thrones last episode i don't think i watched that i know about that video though do do do i guess that's a message for shed okay they fly now they fly they really were probably hoping that would be referenced when they made that joke but not in the way that it ended up being referenced i think um because it's embarrassing but hey well you know whatever um i thought in the original they used light sabers like that because the technology available to them at the time that's why they look heavy um i mean i thought that the whole heavy comments were more about the sequels rather than the uh but i will you know i'll save that one there's a lot of shed questions uh that are delaying my abilities not a lot of free questions though well what can i say man do you do you have a sword channel i don't think so yeah you're gonna write that in your ideas thing maybe maybe do swords yeah maybe do swords yeah uh mary fuck kill ray padme layer um mary layer and then yeah it's probably obvious mary layer next question sorry ray so uh well it was it was mary fuck kill ray padme layer so you mary layer the rest is pretty obvious mary layer fuck padme kill ray yeah pretty much i feel like that would that would answers itself doesn't it this is like yep uh rags don't think i don't catch all the references to the best show ever what sound does an arctic turn make backstreet boys oh what a good show oh my god ha ha ha ha ha oh my goodness people have made the observation that you can't kill ray which is true no according to the rules in this game we were allowed to she can't beat the rules of fuck mary kill she can try uh ringy did you receive a set amount of n-word passes at birth or you give an additional ones periodically wait sorry you got to say that again i was lagging oh this is a very important question uh ringy did you receive a set amount of n-word passes at birth or you give an additional ones periodically what passes for me or like passes for other people i don't understand well an n-word pass can be for other people right because you already you have a permanent pass yourself well i mean from what i yeah i guess so um and they ask if you're able to create your own passes uh oh right okay i mean the whole topic is so stupid it's just so dumb wow you're not even choosing to answer this incredibly philosophical question yeah i don't i don't have an answer i don't understand uh me need to get an extreme amount of school work done before working all of today and tomorrow efap let me stop you right there also star wars breath of the wild when what am i reading britt star wars breath of the wild i mean when i see sw i think star wars then cola b o t w i think breath of the wild i don't would then yeah like sw v o t w what is that why what am i i bring a little melty someone in the chat has made the fatal mistake about the the word um this you gotta you gotta ignore the american centric aspect of it america is not the only country in the world where black people exist all right lies you gotta remember that um all right then uh ah sorry yeah i just don't know what best w oh star wars best of the worst is that i don't know i don't i don't follow um backstroke of the west that's probably what it was yeah um at some point uh no promises right now efap jinn and a bit of gaming hi rags love you all hey uh evening fellas and rags what do you think of sc-38 reimagined i haven't seen it i haven't actually seen it it's pretty good i don't know what it is what is it sc-38 was the obi-wan reimagined fight with uh oh yeah i have seen that okay yeah mm-hmm mm-hmm how was this cool fight i'm not sure that it would have been better in the movie but it's a cool fight outside of it yes very dynamic for new hope you know um as a one for shard uh my tithe to the shad man rags list your top 10 art slash surrealist films justify your choices my top ten fuck that's a he's a tough christ talk about making up a list on the spot um uh legend the lighthouse probably in there with tom cruise um that is from 1985 uh wow what a film i love i love the critics gave that a 36 what the fuck anyway i love legend it's so great i don't even we need to watch legend sometime that's up there um i like the imaginarium of dr parnassus i like the lighthouse that's really good we saw that recently mm-hmm um let me see um gosh i like there's probably more that i just can't think of uh this is your list ranks this is your list you have to see the film i can only think of a few does gattaco count as an art film i'm not sure it's an art film art is like art or what was it art or like trippy sort of surrealist uh like anti-void i imagine my i guess at the turn of these gate would be an art film i like that maybe a lot but uh i'm not sure if you see art or surrealist does the barbadoo count what about which which might be one yeah which um that could definitely be one let me see the room surrealist yeah surrealist oddly enough in a way uh monty python in the holy grail yeah yes you could say so yeah um of course le fromage that's pretty good absolutely um anything from down with thrust anything from down with thrust let's see let's see i'm trying to think um um i am mandy a sport of fair choice are i i'm almost tempted to say blade runner i don't know if i pull that in a strange way i would say that blade runner is an art film yeah um it's an great movie let's see black dynamite uh let's see event horizon no way no that's not that's pull w.s. anderson wow you're saying you can't make art ruby rose is australian i didn't know that oh i did her accent breaks constantly in batwoman you did this i thought yeah i thought you we i thought i said i made you apologize for her remember oh what is that how it works yeah and you did let me let me look up let me look up bed welsh i don't know any welsh act i'm not going to apologize for christian bale or anthony hopkins they're uh they're also christian bale welsh is anthony hopkins i don't know that oh wow so you've got two really good actors yeah he is also why a black moon and tetsuo absent from the list you just came up with i don't know if rags have seen those yeah i haven't seen those why are we talking about lightsabers stick like wait whoa why are we talking about lightsabers and then no just just stick like weapons are coming out armor there okay how am i supposed to work with these conditions but yes true there is a part in clone wars where obi-one had to impersonate mercenary sniper and he is best shot among all of bounty hunters that gather for mission yeah that's a really weird arc and it's one of the reasons why i selectively view the clone wars in canon because they just do a lot of goofy things in that show maybe using the force to be accurate you never know yeah see silence no there was anything i could say in response to that uh i make it my first ever video on civil war because my favorite mcu movie i made a pole and evan munro smud boy the fandalorian and a bunch of others helped me out efap fans are best fans they're pretty damn good as fan bases go i think it's pretty solid and yeah good luck there's lots to say about civil war for it's writing but it gets discounted because it's a it's a cape shit movie it's a it's a okay it's a superhero movie superhero movies can't be well written fringy my girl no wait fringy my girl and i hate joe such a douche hello wait what i said again i don't understand fringy my girl and i hate joe he's such a douche i don't understand what this i don't well i mean both of you reacting to i was like is this something i'm missing i don't understand like i don't i don't get it alright then this one just says d's nuts i don't think i don't think any of us disagree with that thanks jay uh 3415 the sith homewild in eeu was caraban it's canon it's maraban forget poaching that deserves a youtube copyright strike alright then oh so now in the candidates maraban not caraban anymore that's just plagiarism yeah though right it's not caraban it's maraban just keep the eeu already like jeez we gotta do this um beetroot and pizza is the best beetroot sounds like an interesting hmm i've never had beetroot and i only know it exists because of minecraft minecraft teaches people about all kinds of things great yeah there you go i'm glad my month old question was answered and that corvo and emily aren't entirely screwed because of the folding sword someone should tell jay i think we're yeah and i think jay is okay with not knowing stuff he's very used to it's fine um so quick question 3po can read ancient with language was that just sitting around in wato's junk pile when little anakin was scrounging around to make him and he said this will help mum uh what i think the assumption is that it was just like a standard operating system that was given to see 3po something i don't think we're supposed to assume that anakin uploaded all of those languages himself um is that to be weird do do do how repugnant would someone's political views have to be for you to consider or actually stop being friends with them after years of friendship uh i don't know it probably has to be like a fundamental moral disconnect like some really harsh and often brought up racism slash just bigotry in general like a strong hatred like you know who i hate black people i just hate him if it just keeps showing up and you're just like okay all right every day you just like hey uh what do you want to do today run over people at that point i'd be like how the hell were we friends that even start i'd probably be cool with the police at that point but yeah like fundamental value differences if they shifted uh significantly there's actually a Jedi with a red saber also trolled cosmonaut variety hour with obvious bait and he sent his fan base at me discord and i had a laugh at his hypocrisy oh yeah i don't know if you saw it for any but rags on on twitter um he quote tweeted somebody who said that trump you can't just impeach somebody because you don't like them he quote tweeted them from a year ago and said sometimes i like to just look back on my haters and like fuck with them or some shit like that and he um he scrubbed out the name but you can see everything else in terms of like his cosmonauts tweet right and his what he said and what the guy said and so someone uh commented on his thing saying like i'm a fan of yours but didn't you call mauler out like not a couple of days ago for doing stuff like this and then he was like uh it's different because one he blocked the day mount and two uh this is more for funnies while mauler like does it because he can't take criticism um first of all like him blocking out the name doesn't stop anybody with two brain cells from going to find that account it's really not hard you just literally google what each of them said and you'll find that thread yeah uh secondly he was like oh it's just funny and it's like wait so what about if i'm doing it to have some fun like i think these people are funny and then people will highlight this like you saved this from a year ago like how do you how is it like this doesn't come across as petty and then um yeah he he got into like an i guess an argument with some people and at one point you put out a tweet saying um listen if somebody's talking down to me i reserve the right to clap back no matter what the like follow accounts are and like i just collected up some tweets i was like i literally said that in response to you like you copied my argument after saying like you should find a better way than responding to people while I will say is he saying like i get to respond to people if they say so probably like oh i was kind of annoyed i'll say such a hypocrite is beyond but he's comfortable i guess so that's all that matters um asoka left the Jedi after being framed for murder in the clone wars i yeah that's right that's just reminding me yeah that's what happened mawler heavy sword shad ree I remember that that was like eight hours ago um yeah that was a while ago saw an ad for arc nights where they say the game is objectively better than your life have you seen it I have not I don't know what arc nights um no idea I guess it's some Anna I guess it's some anime game uh it's a mobile game not interested uh asoka was forced to leave the Jedi order at the end of the clone wars so when she says I am no Jedi she is telling the truth all right yeah but she but if you're forced do you have to be in the Jedi order to be a Jedi at this point I don't know raise a Jedi yeah and there's no water it's all shambolic she sits on a throne of lies I I'm just here for the memes you guys are great enjoy the meme memes will be coming next episode plenty of memes um in rise of skywalker is no shields in atmosphere only on exe goal uh they don't specify that but uh that would be the only way they could actually justify it but even still how would that make sense what what on what on exe goals atmosphere would prevent a shield from behaving as normal I have no idea yeah it's evil sith atmosphere it's lots it's carbon dioxide there's lots of it you see you're like oh the ozone the global warming we're evil so lots of global warming the ozone look look at that man over there pouring out his chemicals it's a guy like a little big toxic side of the barrel rivers with our sludge shadow where I'll save that one what is everyone's favorite war movie also hi rag oh hold on hello I feel like so what what was it they said about um uh that's not gonna work I wanted to do with a joke but it's not gonna work uh what was it with the on exe goal with the navigation what do you mean what was it they they couldn't they couldn't know the up was down right wasn't that the whole idea you just didn't know how to go up without a tower right and now that's not gonna work hello and this could have been a good joke I wanted to do a stone cutters joke Simpson stone cutters joke now you know that I tried and fails I'm so sorry to come up with a good joke my favorite war movie is still probably saving private Ryan but runners up would be anthropoid 1917 black walk down I like all four of them along what about everyone else favorite war movies a war movie saving private Ryan 1917 1917 yeah black walk down yeah those are bitter ones yeah full metal jack is very good the tune apocalypse now I assume we'll pop up as well oh no I got it what makes spaceships fall to ground what keeps I don't know spaceships shielding down we do for exe goal wasn't very good I appreciate the effort Simpsons reference is always good thoughts for a plasma bayonet on a rifle plasma bayonet on a rifle that seems really dangerous so I think they have that actually in Halo 5 now it gives you a one hit melee kill is fucking broken shit so let me see so the positives would be that you could turn it on and off it didn't always have to be deployed the bad news is it's another move like I just it seems like it's a lot of work and effort to make something that probably wouldn't be useful in almost all scenarios and you could just put a knife up there I mean why not put a knife up there you said put a knife up there I was just thinking of bum bums are you going with that but yeah I mean it'd be spacey and nifty maybe there could be practical use for it seems like it'd be more of a tool than anything to cut things to open stuff up to get through doors and stuff I could definitely see how police forces and SWAT teams in the future would have stuff like that like to cut chains and lock doors and stuff but as a standard issue thing now I don't see it Fringy the use of the periodic table of elements as powers is in a trash anime manga series Psycon No Quasar where random people get the ability to control an element on the table okay that's kind of interesting but you said it was crap so I guess it's not alright um the trash part was their powers were fueled by breast milk okay that's a bit weird that is a bit weird I think you're right how cool would it be if women's boobs only inflated when aroused and were otherwise always completely flat half cubs would only mean one inflates I think he means chubs and uh that would be weird that'd be very strange but that'd be bad because you would have to like think about the sizing for your shirts that you'd have to have and they'd get stretched out and then they'd get loose depending on how aroused you were and you wouldn't be able to hide it at all which would be super awkward especially if you have big tits um yeah that'd be a shame it's funny but imagine they were huge and so when you get aroused like slowly inflates it's like and then something really horrible happens and it goes like deflates this is dumb but funny anyway uh columbus sucks that was from Ferdinand Magellan hahahaha hahahaha ah Moly you just don't like it because you're a massive very true oh well and he also was saying shad you just like it because you're the ultimate neck beard which I think he would own at this point uh pass this along to oh that's shad again whether you like the Mandalorian or not you have to agree the biggest problem is that 85,000 children died in Yemen of starvation oh I don't think Mandalorian can I even do that but y'all the dead kids in Mandalorian were because Mando and they yeah hmm toss a coin to your moopa oh yeah moopa's doing alright he's uh clicking away what is the what is the stream length limit by the way what is it like 9 hours 11 50 or 59 is what I would say to be safe ah right oh so we can still be going for like another 2 and a half 2 and a half you mean 3 and a half oh right okay alright well 3 and 20 minutes something like that but yes uh the visuals good no the CGI was pretty bad oh about Mando I don't know CGI seemed pretty good I disagree I think it was pretty darn good but I'd be curious what you think is good CGI then controversial take baby Yoda is a Mary Sue I don't know baby Yoda gets tuckered out quite a bit and uh close to killed I mean I see why people might think that but I do think that he does that is like the redeeming aspect of it is that like after stomping the mud horn he's just like out for at least a day so that's something the writing is so bad I feel like this is the only place on the internet where it's okay to just like it can't wait to hear the arguments you guys bring me joy like none other can truly appreciate you hey rags hey um yeah I mean we got through the first six was no five we got through the first five we got three left they shall have their time um TV for all the hours of entertainment gentlemen oty um no problemo um every father pause fobs are just McMuffins yeah cause fobs were talked about for a while but at least we know where in the stream we are right now right right trackers take away the intellect of the bounty hunters they use to find clues and hunt their target now anyone can follow a beacon makes them less unique I mean yeah not much stopping you from signing up to be a bounty hunter quite quickly like give me that fob if you've got enough money to buy straight up armor and a blaster you've mostly got all you need you think yeah imagine the first guy who's like guys you could buy armor and they're like what it's like yeah down the street they just yeah hell man why didn't I think of that why didn't the Imperials just do it themselves with special recovery teams and lots of fobs well that was something see and that was something we brought up in the first like selection of discussions and I'm pretty sure Shad conceded that especially when considering the finale and yet like he would look back and be like nothing hugely significant in terms of flaws have really been discussed I was like isn't that doesn't that destroy the entire season the idea that the Empire just really stupid like they didn't just go get baby out of themselves hmm like oh but they need to protect their bed outside of the ones they murdered god damn it late so y'all might have to cover this but I think fobs are significantly limited by range hence trying to hide in the middle of nowhere also we know AA capabilities of ATSD's what are AA capabilities anti air so it looks like they're just they seem to be slow firing blasters and they only have two of the cannons if you wanted AA capabilities and you want blasters for it they needed to be and all you need to do is park his ship like a while away well not too far away but away enough that once it's drawn out you raise up the ship and just immediately go for an attack it without it realizing it's a thing as long as you fire off one shot that would be and besides we've established he's willing to risk his own life so of course he'd be willing to risk the ship also high rags hello movie fob yeah an ATSD taking care of taking down that ship is like no way it ain't happening the Mandalorians contradict Filoni's retcon of the law in CW they they took off their helmets in it the Mandalorians in the old Republic were better because they weren't all fairies on jet packs these Mandalorians are kind of shit when you guys that's more of a that's more of a point we bring in later but yeah when you get beaten by the guys who have a specific seem to let you know how stupid they are not looking good hello long man from a Quebec Quebec city listener do you and Fringy feel vindicated to always wear a mask since the beer virus started to spread obligatory high rags hello I feel like my mask is going to be more effective than Fringy's but yes I think we'll both be fine yeah I guess who knows fobs are the biggest plot hole since Ryan Johnson's anus it makes the finding of bounties irrelevant what if they don't have DNA to lock onto does the person get away also seven too many montages yeah there's a in seven you get the robot becoming a friend montage and don't you get the flashback montage as well where he where's that eight I think that was eight because he learns that it's Moff Gideon yeah yeah I don't disagree with that and yeah we don't know exactly what the fobs track yet they've been nice and vague on it or at least vague enough but we can't be sure movie Bob bounty hunter name is Boba fat nice I enjoy the Mandalorian let's see if that lasts I mean I'll be paying attention to season two I hope it's better to say the least Ari fobs let's assume they're 10k hunters in the guild how many planets do you think there are in the galaxy 10k hunters covering billions of planets one per hunter per day would take decades well I guess it's just this entire as he said before this entirely depends on what if it uses range it depends on what the range is like that's the entire crux of the whole thing you can't have it both ways if you want to establish it's going to take them decades to find and then how come that dude found him on the episode four the Randy found him didn't take that long apparently and I don't know man like it's just that they're playing fast and loose for sure they just don't seem to care too much and I just feel like once season two locks down exactly what they do which I assume it will who knows maybe they'll just avoid talking about it it's going to fuck up season one even more potentially I just got into an argument on why ruby is badly written and I thank you massive for showing me how to accurately break down how something can be bad hope it's been useful for you I've never seen ruby I thought a lot of people were of the opinion that ruby has been bad for a while I don't really know much about the show yeah I've never seen it planet hopping the way you guys are talking about isn't feasible there were over 70 million worlds in the galactic empire and more than that charted again then how is it that he got found so quickly what is the this is what I mean like the rage seems to just be whatever the plot allows it to be at the time in terms of just like it was it was however much it needed to be for that guy to have found them and when we're just sitting here like so what then it's like like um the guy in episode five he knew that the assassin lady was on Tatooine I guess and the fob only activated once he got there question mark I don't know how long have these trapping fobs existed seems like it would have been useful for tracking down the rebellion I don't even know what they lock on to we didn't even manage to figure that out exactly if it is because they're the two halves of the problem what is it that it's locking on to and what is its effective range assuming it uses range yeah we don't don't even really know because remember we're using like if we can communicate across insanely vast distances with each other like the technology is incredible so who knows that's the thing who knows oh my god I haven't watched the show yet so I'll just say hi to all that includes you rags good luck tomorrow shad made the light brighten your the light brighten your fall um we'll save that I suppose but I don't know what you mean light brighten your fall do you have any advice for writing scripts I'm looking into doing my own series like tv wow we can't clarify it I mean it's quite it's quite hard to give decent advice that's generalized something like writing a script I know that we usually stick to the whole like you know stay true to everything you write down from the moment it's become a rule uh work to try and make things feel natural I suppose uh redraft redraft redraft send it around to different people see what they think I remember um smud boy talking about when he was writing some stories that he would have friends of his write dialogue based on how they would react in a situation after being told the basic like the skeleton of what they'd be wanting to say and stuff just to see how they would say stuff and change up the dialogue I guess um oh it probably is a reference to Shad's book actually that's a good point like I said I've saved that message I'll read it to Shad as well but yes without going into too much detail it's tough to give strong advice for writing a script so it's a very complicated process yeah man give me the big corona daddy rags I love the content of two of you that'd be corona that was when all four of us were here and they said it just says I love the content of two of you well mola chat has some things wrong chat is messed up oh no crap are we gonna end up debating the morality of adoption again sad face perhaps we will perhaps we will oh no I'm literally in the middle of writing a script for a breakdown of the show outlast part 5 11 50 to 11 54 and 20 50 to 58 what does gratuitous mean uh gratuitous means like yeah I would if let me check it because even as necessary overly you know I feel like it's the perfect synonym is excessive um gratuitous apparently is primarily that a primary definition is done without good reason or uncalled for interesting um more than is required so you'll often find it associated with violence uh sexual content that sort of thing when they put it in because you like oh I see why you're doing this because it's not to do with the story it's to do with you wanting to see this stuff bringing if fobs have a system size range oh yeah you did respond to that one yeah I have a response no worries about specificity and devil's advocate shad and the rest of you explicitness is the point of efap and that's what I love yeah we like it when there's definitive references and they don't have to be overt as long as you know their information why are you talking with shad the ultimate neck beard is coming out and can we get some slownold in here mando debates are boring as fuck the show is mad best oh well you know we had a super chat in the last one didn't we that said like when's the next debate happening they're my favorite kinds of episodes hopefully that person is satisfied with this episode who knows yeah I hope that works out um good day moorla finished your soma amnesia videos in the last part you mentioned you finished uni you were stopping youtube all together what did you study at uni what were you going to be and what made you push on prior to TLJ's release um so I figured the I was getting a new job at that point that was uh extremely taxing in terms of like I wouldn't be free other than maybe the saturday and sunday of the week and I figured that I'd be spending my time having fun doing normal things instead of like working on videos and stuff but I decided that I really wanted to keep making videos um I was uh when I finished uni I was doing illustration um I liked it but the course was awful and I really hated it and I kind of wish I never did it but I did two years and then I didn't want to do the third because I had pushed through on the second when I didn't really want to and uh what were you going to be I had no idea I did illustration because I enjoyed drawing but I didn't know what I was going to do with it um but I knew I kind of wanted to always get into YouTube in some way shape or form um I really liked lots of people's videos that were like analysis of uh media and I was like I'd like to do that in some way I tried out a bunch of other sorts of videos and um I settled on making reviews long form long man long form uh I meant in charted space ringing not the whole galaxy the star wars galaxy is actually slightly bigger than ours um I think we have more planets right but apparently it's like bigger in just general size uh but yeah it's just too tough to figure this stuff out because we don't have enough information on how the fobs work like all this stuff is extrapolation from just assumptions I just figured the fobs pretty much worked at infinite distances like I didn't really have assumed any other reason uh anything other than that I guess who knows uh hyperspace is like highway with gravity points as junctions planets etc that's why some planets are dead ends and others are high value for travel very well talk about all the great montages and I assume they're referring to when he's flashbacking is the only other montage I can think of is when maybe he's talking about all like the great montages of movie history oh yeah I got the tools you could give at the best and you've got to reach your something you remember that one from our team America and show us the passage of time you're gonna need a montage montage you know that's a good one I'm so talented in Kotor it's implied that Tatooine is Earth oh my god I thought it was a galaxy far far away well maybe it's not so far away at all maybe that's the secret because when it's far away but it's not yeah I got nothing my brain is dying here I think I might have to call it it's funny because I woke up for this but like I'm really tired now well that's alright would you like to tell chat about how you're totally bringing out loads of new videos soon yeah maybe video but definitely I've done some streams on the switch hold on I need to the link hold on hold on hold on even though I haven't done one for like a week at this point you may have noticed it during this stream but the internet's been real spotty today I'll be honest with you I did notice that I'm sure you do I've been doing streams and I'm working on things but I'm not going to say because I don't want to give people expectations hopefully there will just be something that comes out maybe and then you'll be really surprised like with the Christmas video oh wait bringing isn't the thing it's dubious yeah that's the one but there's freaking ones there too because I hosted through there anyway so either way either way that's fine come along whenever my internet starts working again I see me playing Halo mostly and XCOM 2 I was going to play before my save file corrupted I like XCOM 2 a lot I know top hats doesn't like XCOM 2 but I don't care I like XCOM 2 but yeah that's it this was fun discussion I guess I'll be around for the part 2 right yes that shall happen eventually one day it'll be wonderful I guess yeah thanks for popping in for the good Nia 9 hours it's been fun yes absolutely yeah we did wait only 9 hours I'm pretty sure that's my longest oh yeah for Nia you remember that mission impossible one we did that went for 7 hours and we were all like wow this was a long one now I'm like we got 3 hours to kill what do you guys want to talk stars alright I need to catch some z's but it's been fun I'll catch you later see you later everyone alrighty yeah I'll see you later bye are you leaving or we do the stream okay alright I didn't know I wanted to kind of do like a goodbye just and cake I didn't know if he was leaving or if the stream was cutting so I wanted to make sure this goodbye would be both applicable to him and to everybody just in case that makes sense I wonder I think chat is staying they're not leaving yet so we'll hang around with that I guess we can hang around a little bit I'm tired but I can hang around push on this EFAP is cursed very well hi rags hi have you heard about JTEC TV I have alright then yeah there you go check out it's a Gundams video on JTEC TV oh I'm not interested in people's personal drama of that kind I have no interest in it it's not something I want to not something I want to delve into it's not my business it's probably due to how inoffensively the show is that I actually enjoyed it although it definitely has problems baby Yoda is adorable as well yes he is how do you think the Mandalorian compares to Rise of Skywalker and The Last Jedi the show has been propped up by how bad those movies are it's better than those yeah it's better than those I don't think that's an achievement those are so bad I miss Wolf you would have called anyone who liked the show an objective retard would have ripped them a new brown table can we go back to ripping on TLJ I mean probably there's loads of TLJ videos it will happen well the Mandalorian wears best car the only thing about best cars is it's actually supposed to be invulnerable to Blastifier but extremely rare to get yeah I have no doubt that it is extremely rare to get of all the armor it seems to be very high and effective shag marry kill work for befriend enslave they are our options I'm gonna have to paste this to you in case you have to keep track of all these options yeah let's take a look our options are Leia, Padme, Kira, Jin, Rey and Rose who's Kira well Kira is the one from solo oh yeah that's right and this is fuck marry kill I'm gonna marry Leia immediately yeah marry Leia enslave Rose I imagine well that way then again we gotta kill somebody maybe enslave Rey how powerful is a slave you know yeah if she was enslave enslave Rey kill Rose marry Leia yeah plus you could fuck Rey if you needed to we got shag we got shag Padme probably befriend I shag Kira well I guess it's between you gotta be friends with or shag between or Padme because she's like super rich so she probably works in really nice upscale places she's like a queen and everything senator queen lady so probably really nice working for her go to some nice fancy senate parties on place planets um befriend hmm I'd probably befriend Kira because she's ruthless kinda I mean she's gonna be our friend then yeah yeah and we shag Jin we shag Jin okay let me see Jin Urso she's a good looking chick alright so she looks fine yeah she looks good not my first choice for shaggin but you know I think that we came out I definitely see this as a I absolutely see this as a win all of you are great keep up the great work high rags hello okay I understand it's convenient he's constantly shot in the armor but he has way better coverage than captain america and cap goes against trained soldiers who almost always hit his shield yeah it's part of one of the issues with winter soldiers they never shoot his legs they always shoot the shield and I think that um they comment on it in civil war um vitamin says so something like that because that's the obvious weak spot but um yeah don't ever assume that just because me and rags like something that means that we don't recognize a fault in it that we are pointing out in something at the time like there's a good chance that we agree because yeah we're fine with saying that this other thing also is bad maybe not to the same degree but we're absolutely fine saying yeah other things can be bad too we're not talking about those things now we hate it when people do this on videos we cover any fat so don't do it here after episode one I had so much hope for this show god knows we could all use some good Star Wars again yes ma'am a hundred belly rubs for rags yay I'm going to bed see you in eight hours because I'm certain you'll still be streaming we might very well be he might be right yeah for example when you're playing halo games on legendary you're not going to run into a horde of enemies as you'll die very quickly even with your armor agreed exactly that's the thing and like the way his armor even covers his body landline was being generous too let's say it will stop 90% of blaster bolts from hitting your body that's a one in ten shot that um uh you know it hits you like that's not something I'm risking uh empire had laser proof metal but use it for money is that one more time the empire has laser proof metal but they use it for money I guess they're referring to the best car it's like they're not using that for their own armor they just use it for exchanging for goods and stuff I mean it's yeah it's still yeah even if you don't use it as armor it's still like super valuable mm-hmm as a material yeah mola makes good objective critique of tlj chat I like mola objective critique of Mandalorian gay idiots in chat re I mean I can understand in chat I can understand it though because it's just it's hard to get used to because it's like but this is so much better than sequel trilogy why are you ripping into it in the same way it's like I don't know we're just using it with the same standard we judge the other star wars stuff and it took a while to get to references hopefully with what we piled out in each of these episodes uh people are going to be relatively satisfied but there's a lot more to come for episodes 8 7 and 6 so we'll have to get to them when we get to them as well but uh the season as a whole is just it's very flimsy also would you you're probably going to be able to do most of your video by the time we get to a stream with those remaining three right how maybe depends on what depends on what order I do stuff in but maybe that's very possible episode 5 and 6 2 is just dumb episode criticism of don't apply to the rest of the show it's not nearly as bad as some moments in 5 I'm not sure what to make of that one uh getting hit in an armor is still should be extremely painful with at least couple broken ribs or worse I'm willing to understand that it bounces the standard blasters away from it but the ones where he gets hit and he actually like explodes on him and he falls over like the sniper shots in episode 5 you'd think that would do some permanent stuff to him maybe I don't know I mean it's I see it as like a really heavy punch or getting hit with a hammer something like that can't be good can't be good and again when you take it's not just the amount of times he shot in 8 episodes is like it's almost like every time he's fucking in combat at all he gets shot snipers aim for the largest part of the body so if you play in a video game and I'm like against rags and I see him in my sights shoot him and it sparks off and he survives and zero damage and I'm like what the fuck I do it again and it's just yeah his body armor protects him 100% then I see him standing still in the open I'm not going to shoot his chest again yeah and I mean like watch the episode he is right there he's just still as can be she has him dead in his sight like he's taking up like half of her scope she's an expert marksman to argue that she's obviously going to shoot the biggest portion of him it's like I think she'd rather shoot to kill at this point yeah especially because he's getting that close and she could tell he's a Mandalorian like come on like this of all the things to defend you're trying to defend this like come on quit love the streams and I'm currently marathoning all of EFAP not sure it's been said yet snipers are trained to aim for center mass like the chest I mean we pretty much just not here it's still yeah we just just explain that yeah uh 0.5 mower groups at a distance a kilometer are impressive at a kilometer it's 26 centimeters even more at longer range good luck aiming at a neck I mean she literally just had to move up slightly it's all the screenshot yeah and then she pulls a trigger and it hits him right in the chest where she was aiming like she clearly could have hit him anywhere she wanted but she just chose to shoot him in the chest again and once again it protects him fully again for the third time like quit defending this guys come on um just she didn't even try as well as she was aiming for the chest again oh well uh used to be with it but then they changed what it was and now what I'm with isn't it and what it seems to be is weird and scary to me abe baggins that is a good Simpsons reference approved nitpick EFAP bad I'm so sorry that these are considered nitpicks uh shed as far as I remember the distance is larger than just one kilometer in this case so the fact that she can consistently hit him is impressive in yeah she is an extremely good shot yeah very good and as far as I remember the distance uh oh wait yeah the Mandalorians lose because as good of warriors they are they have no cohesion they fight as individuals what do you mean they didn't do that in episode 3 uh yeah what was the team and even in the flashback they are clearly communicating with each other yeah and besides like they're in like tight hall tall uh sorry tight hallways and tunnels and stuff and how much cohesion do you have to do you need if you're a Mandalorian to fight stormtroopers they literally make a point about how worthless and shitty they are what teamwork do you need exactly I miss OT stormtroopers ST stormtroopers look bad I mean I don't I don't really mind the redesign in the ST the DT as they call it uh I just I just I'm just getting tired of incompetent stormtroopers so much of it now yeah it's like cause now we know in the episode whenever they say oh we can't fight them or oh we can't do it we know that that's just a lie just throw out literally like a duck a duck will kill him a duck with a blaster will kill you know not even the blaster just a duck what if joker was a piston of color rather than a white male the performances and everything else was the same how do that change things for movie blob and jabby types they'd love it they probably prefer it to say the least like if joker was trans they would think it's the greatest movie ever made the proper term is fandalorian rags not mandibu you silly furry I was reading someone else's thing in the chat so that one is not on me this guy said what's a y-wing boo not everyone knows what a y-wing that's for sure tlg bombers are do-wings I get it do-wings blurgs are the dumbest looking creatures ever invented with a dumb name to match biologically how does such a constructed creature work I have no idea I am not gibas I do not know how these species work I'm so sorry very mysterious he should have milked it and gained its trust that is true scopes need to be zeroed in fire scares animals it filled his scope you remember this part they were talking about episode one again yeah like it filled you can't miss he just had to fire he couldn't miss it was right there it pops up right in front of him pretty basic firearm safety is to not have a firearm you don't intend to use loaded it's a bit odd that the rifle wasn't loaded but not unimaginable he wouldn't have loaded it when leaving because he didn't plan to use it apparently he does yeah he does need it if anything he knows why he's going there right there's no reason not to load it I don't see why you wouldn't have it loaded yeah who's the afraid of shooting exactly out there by himself yeah I don't know about that also they have like safeties and there's the whole finger on the trigger thing I'll have to watch Mando now so I'll watch this eff up later in the meantime you dumbos have to watch Hardcore Henry it'll be perfectly balanced one day one day it just says s dash was too drunk to respond the first time so I'll repeat I guess this is about directed at you he's wrong about armor in fantasy needing to be practical fashion over function rags oh yeah it's like an MMO to me it sounds like Will Smith's Robophobia in iRobot is more consistent yeah if I remember that in iRobot a robot decides to save Will Smith and not save his family member maybe his daughter because the likelihood of his survival was higher and so from that point on he just hates robots because they're too cold and calculating that sort of thing and obviously it associates directly with the death of that family member and stuff but I'm pretty sure even Will Smith is like in that movie willing to talk to robots and deal with them and stuff he just kind of hates them because of that scenario in his life and he ends up being friends with one in that film I think but they do it weirdly in Mando they just it's weird to clarify the 70 million point because I got a bit inconsistent there it's 70 million worlds in the empire millions of independent but charted worlds beyond its borders then a huge chunk of the galaxy unexplored which means that they would always we're almost advocating that fobs are useless because you'd have to know what planet the person's on for the fob to be worth anything right? can't go around jumping between them so again it's like lots of arguments happening at the same time when we don't have enough information to be definitive but I seriously doubt they only work within the range of a planet or a system gotta be more than that at least I would imagine so I just came home from the hospital as my mother had a heart attack today damn for those of you I hope she's alright for those of you who believe in such things could you send your prayers or wishes she's very important to me of course dude I think she's at least getting taken to the hospital where they can take care of that man sorry to hear it hopefully she recovers there's a question for Fringian Shad just watched your surgery video Shad does anyone else who feels like it do your best Wesker impression we've done that before where he says complete global saturation total global saturation seven minutes seven minutes is all I can spare to play with you to play with you crap crap are you going to cry Wesker maybe shit and come ah found you Resident Evil 5 is a strange game yes it is oh what happened Yoda's OP powers are okay if he's some kind of special force thing like a species powerful in the force I like he's sleeping for a while so they need to pay this off when they explain him I mean we'll get more info on him in season 2 I imagine women of color some bunch may refer to as a female Ewok along with the delightful dwarves still deserve the proverbial unbridled peen Brigidius that was a message of some kind Anakin was literally made by the force he couldn't match anything before training and he couldn't do much of anything before training I'm willing to bet people can do something to a degree without you know like like off instinct I guess yeah like self-taught sure I totally believe self-taught but lifting and stopping a charging mud horn is just pushing it a bit too um it's for Shadaruni Danny DeVito should voice baby Yoda if it happens agreed rags pooped with the door open while in Vegas you proud of them wow that's uh wow that's uh oh I guess if you're gonna do it do it in Vegas that's that's the place to do it nice bathrooms in there oh and they're Vegas like at Vegas like in Vegas like in general around the Vegas area good luck with the surgery oh yeah I'll save that how was Luke able to learn force choke in return of the Jedi was he taught by Obi-Wan or Yoda to use a power like that also baby Yoda so force choke is an interesting one because force choke shouldn't even be a thing it's just telekinesis which is something they already know to do yeah you're just using force push to push their throat closed like calling it force choke is a specific ability to me seems kind of silly we should just assume that he's performing odd that he knows force choke odd that he knows an application of that is to choke people for a baby right you'd think you would instead try to pick her up maybe yeah push her over lift her in the air who knows also using force heal was awful would you guys be interested in reviewing the leaked duel of fate script as you did with the TROS leak yeah we're gonna look into a summary for it and probably talk about it a bit um chat has put on their retarded hat for today I don't agree entirely with that I think we got to explore a lot of counterarguments I think a lot of people this thing about Mandalorian is loads of people hate it loads of people love it, loads of people are indifferent it was a full selection today because like Rise of Skywalker, it wasn't exactly a fucking surprise that the people who hated TLJ hated that film too but Mandalorian's a bit different and it was cool to have something in this community that isn't definitively agreed upon or at least 80% agreed upon you know it's quite the diverse set of opinions and once we get through looking a bit more about the last few episodes and maybe some stuff about it as a whole and once season 2 comes out we'll be able to definitively say some more stuff about Mandalorian the discussion goes on and who knows what's gonna happen when we get an Obi-Wan series if that actually happens oof do you know of a response to your DS2 vids from a small youtuber named Modi it puts into question your objectivity I've been told about quite a few now that are responding to lots of different videos of mine um I just don't have time to get around to each of them but I'm happy that it's happening good to get that discussion rolling I know I made mistakes in the DS2 one if you go to the comments on a selection of them I'm in there trying to explain how I made certain mistakes or I didn't mean to obviously the easy reference is the gesture robes which I still don't think really matters that much because I showed so many other examples of the backstab not working but there are other things as well there are droid scavengers showers aren't rare it should be common knowledge that they would have they would have shock based weaponry especially if you care enough to learn the language I don't know I felt like that was a bit grassy and strawsy like um I was letting the argument run out between you guys but I was listening to all of it and I just think his approach with the sand crawler was retarded I think that there's a lot of other things he could have done I don't exactly know what he expected to do I think he just hoped that they wouldn't have hit him with the shock guns and that he would have killed all of them killed the driver managed to find all of his parts and take them back to his ship I guess I think that's what he was gunning for it was always going to be tough Mando move on you're spending too much time on this why do these people watch eFAP and not expect examination and discussion that's the whole premise yeah I mean everybody has a limit right on how long anyone can spend on a on a topic in some field I mean we spent a while on the fobs even I think so there are in fact frog species that live in deserts their life cycle pretty much involves hibernating until a rainstorm then eating and breeding and then starting to hibernate again interesting I can't believe that Molo when do we get an unbridled rags from you bridled rags I don't know if that means rags being angry unbridled rags I'm excited to know what that means I never wear a bridle also I don't have a bridle but if you were to have one of those I could create a video in which you were un of that totally makes sense yeah the Mando's in the 90s comics were like on Predator okay you don't even know what race of aliens he is from he can have powers that we don't even know about because he was saved by the Mandalorians and adopted maybe and if they explain that later on I'll be down with it I hope they don't pull that out of their asses like 1315 rebels made fun of stormtroopers first the rebels had a strike team led by Vader's former clone commander using stolen st uniforms he kept missing until he took off his helmet in anger and then he gained sniper level aim oh so the rebels show the fun of stormtroopers first I don't care who did it first really I just don't like it I think it's dumb it really only gets in the way when stormtroopers do good cause you're just like wait I thought they were a joke and I did see people commenting that it's just those two stormtroopers at the beginning of episode 8 but it's a bill beer comment as well he says he wasn't a stormtrooper in relation to having good aim like he's like I wasn't a stormtrooper he says I don't like it I don't like it either night vision and thermal are sensitive equipment wouldn't getting shot by ion blasters fry them apparently not no, apparently not future me remember you parked at lot A alright there you go ah there you go I miss full metal alchemist brotherhood characters could bleed, break bones and be out of action for episodes except alphons obviously very true muller have you ever thought of doing an unbridled praise and unbridled rage on the same movie pick apart what lifts it up and what drags it down I think spider-man far from home would be a good candidate for that it's um it's got a lot of good stuff in there but a lot of it is half baked which is the kind of film that could work for that sort of thing what parasite would be a good contender yeah to a degree what do you think of abstract film they don't know what you are referring to specifically it's something like films that are primarily allegorical or interpretive and um I can like them a lot depending on execution yeah I'm fine with the idea he's going to be super artsy but do something hi there eFap what is the best way to get a hold of any of you for business I'm the weirdo making the fighting game and I would like to make some inquiries about the characters if at all possible oh my god discord message me or email me on my youtube website email our discord messages is the best way to reach me that being the fd let the uwu flow through uwu also slam's fob and puck on desk what you bring me hello hi on wukipedia it states the dango fet was a Mandalorian who was adopted by them after his family is murdered in the shitty new canon he is nothing more than an impersonator lame disney that's all good isn't it well I hope the story is still kind of interesting at least there's an account called baby yoder that says you talking poop about me yes what are you going to do I'm just having a fun time and enjoying the ride I even made a meme for you guys but it has godzilla in it so you'll probably hate it I'm just messing with you either way I'm glad to listen it was funny that our godzilla eFap movies still is it out yet jesus I was thinking do you think it is risky to try and do a premiere for the lord of the rings fellowship of the ring eFap just like copyrightisms and stuff I don't know if it's not been detected while it's listed then theoretically streaming it should be fine right ah theoretically could crash and burn yeah could crash and burn or you'll get a strike tism on the channel and who knows it's a difficult thing but I need to use the loo so I'll be right back did they finish all the episodes we did one through five jay we've got six seven and eight to do hopefully we will do them in a part two style thing once uh once shad has recovered Toriel critics eFap are just bigots who won't let people have opinions critics the right opinion I hate everything just right you're watching movies wrong my god maybe a few of the show's logical issues could be fixed if Mando was a talented novice with lots to learn instead of Mando king of the bounty hunters yeah that's the thing like I wish his mistakes were more uh say reasonable compared to what we expect of his level that makes sense his mistakes were more comparative to what we would expect a man of his ability to be making this was my first participation on eFap love ya well thank you love you too she's hot you massive fig trees Sam's is in smash that's very good I believe she is attractive actually that is in reference to Gina Carano I believe that means we'll be talking about episode 4 at this point in the super chat it's not bad uh frog lives matter mohler I apologize I'm off to bed but I've been enjoying the debate so far excellent in the episode with the defense of the village it is clearly a ripoff of magnificent seven the entire show is a garbage ripoff of a classic western I don't 100% mind if it would have been a ripoff if they had done it well though you know what I mean like I think a lot of people feel that way as long as you copy it in a way that gives it a new skin and sort of maybe explores different things with different characters of their own but also kinda you know feels a bit of the um bit of the plot if not all of it just but just but in any way that's believable and consistent you know they didn't really do that unfortunately well teach villages to fight back thing was done way better in clone wars season 2 episode 17 the same plot just done much better well clone wars hasn't beat as well uh lol short man inside the ATST lol what a garbage episode so contrived yeah episode 4 is probably the worst one I don't know what they would do with that like episode 5's poopy as well for sure but I mean oof one of the greatest flaws of the show is that mando never uses his ship in tactical situations it's as if his ship is treated as a horse would be treated in a B movie western I mean he'd probably use a horse more often than the ship at that point is er ever coming on again more or should do a sci-fi episode with bozoi and sven from the right stuff biz I have no idea who they are and as for er coming on again yeah probably um actually on the last e-fap I believe the super chat section I remember correctly good ol misty ya um just because it's a 7 samurai reference does not make it good watch clone wars for a decent 7 samurai homage they did it okay the way that they did it an epic line from an incredible philosopher er my favorite part is when the other mandaloreans just showed up out of nowhere for no reason just in time to save our heroes ass great writing I think it's reasonable to assume that they were vaguely aware of what was happening up there cause lots of dramas were going on maybe they have some kind of informant that came down to tell them about it but um yeah they got ready quick I don't know chat is doing an excellent job of mando apologetics bless his heart I mean he felt he would try and counter the arguments um as best as possible with each of the arguments that were provided I suppose um it's a thankless job a tough job but he did it there are so many desert planes planets in the show it's ridiculous and feels lazy they even all have jawas at least geonosis was distinct yeah I agree it's very distinct all the ones that uh people remember wow rax must be taking an old dumperoo I suppose mando ah you're entirely inexperienced in matters like these this changes everything sign me up yeah it's a weird moment all these criticisms are good it just hurts to hear them really like this show I want it to be good I mean there's still good stuff in it as we did discuss it's not like it gets a zero just that uh there's a lot of stuff that I think does not work sad loser reads super chats all by himself 2020 colorized I'm not gonna be alone forever rax is totally on his way back may shad surgery oh I'll save that for him we've got a lot of shad messages I don't even know if we're gonna be able to read all of these in the intro for the one when he comes back it's gonna be crazy mola how do you feel about being free from article 13 that is pretty hilarious that if article 13 goes forward I will be saved because of brexit I suppose I don't know what to think we'll have to see how everything goes mando is the gedel guy of space wizard characters I can see the connection can mola be called Britain man not British man Britain man well upon your Celtic Britonic ancestors screw the Anglo-Saxon invaders very well Britain man it is that can be one of my AKAs nothing to say but I always run ad blocks so here's your ad money thank you hyperdrive requires calculation time c episode 4 mando is engaged in a space battle while waiting for calculations and before he's ready to jump he manages to destroy the other ship also high rags well thus we did say there's lots of ways to explain it but they don't bother with uh any they just uh we're just meant to assume that for whatever reason he was unable to do it and I'm like alright then be cool to know what it was so this is a selection of superchats all in a row I'm gonna read them is uh 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 it's quite a few but uh here we go pee pee poo poo pee pee poo poo pee pee pee pee uh sorry mohler it's cortosis blades that can disable lightsabers not vibro blades vibro blades can just deflect slash parry lightsabers my bad very well I am back they were too they were too for you that you had missed oh my god I'm sorry rags buff chicks are hot not everyone is into pregnant chicks like you man her personality is okay but I definitely agree on that though I mean yeah the actress is hot sure absolutely I do think there's definitely some appeal to be had in you know strong buff chicks absolutely uh rags is scared of a strong woman I've seen in my rl a lightweight no one to two beers make him drunk oh it takes important too um if you have you see old pictures of me and stuff sure but those were years ago and I have uh folks up a fair amount I'm not really scrawny anymore I think I've been uh taking pretty good care of myself hey well I think Dave Filoni's episodes are better ones you can tell how inexperienced he is with live action shows uh which ones are his Dave me me direct and right Lorian oh he wrote episode 5 the one that everyone hates so that's awkward and directed episode 1 and episode 5 how strange oh man that's weird I think that we agree that episode 4 is worse than 5 but like I said most of the general public seem to think that 5 is the worst yeah I I think it's I think 4 or 8 are kind of up there for me just give it a 7 out of 10 alright have a happy 0202 2020 guys oh yeah it's a palindrome at least that's what I read online Moola what do you think of Luigi's Mansion 3 I haven't played it I'm afraid uh Moosley what's your favorite corruption of your name Moola, Mulebsley etc also highrag what I said hello didn't hear anything oh that's weird yeah but just in case it didn't come through hello yeah my favorite is probably the Mulebsley one because it's such a crazy nonsense version but I guess the more insane and crazy it is the funnier I find it but then again there's a balance there's a balance so Mulebsley is quite the amusing one watch J Longbone's new video it's fucking great uh are you talking about the one she did for CinemaSins or has she done something else oh she's got one called Bids of Prey Looks Great I will check that out after this stream uh halo 4 and 5 were ok games just bad halo games in my opinion rags your standings yeah I didn't play 5 4 was fine I guess but you expect better from halo baby Yoda asks do you like me though I'm gonna go ahead and say yes rags do you like baby Yoda it's fine he's fine fine I just don't like babies in general so but he's fine I'm so glad he's not just like whining and crying all the time and just being an annoying little asshole does anyone remember halo forward unto dawn and if so what are your thoughts on it as a video game movie and could it work for the big screen I have not seen it I have not seen it but there's nothing about the halo universe that wouldn't lend itself well to a movie so would you call saving those chats for foreshadowing foreshadowing I say um in shads book the protagonist catches a grapist rips his wang doodle off and kills him later would be grapists get decapitated in the street my goodness oh my goodness guys what is the best monster horror movie and why is it tremors I'm sorry I like tremors but the thing beats out tremors in that category why do monster movies not have such creativity anymore it makes me out yeah I agree it sucks I don't know because they made that thing remake they're probably gonna remake tremors right that sounds like something they would do give it time yeah I'm sorry yeah you know maybe we shall have a renaissance in terms of movies a whole bunch of crazy new movie monsters will come out I'm sure it'll happen a renaissance fuck Padme and marry Leia banjo's intensify alright oh boy fringy sword channel when also high rags I guess I'll keep that message for fringy and one day I will read it out and he'll be confused we'll just be like what what what is the context I'll be like maybe you don't deserve the context fringy how about that yeah fringy how dare you fringy though moors was fracking gold even the goofy stuff except except that one bit where grievous was captured by gungans oh that was funny so many people here are thirsty for rags piping hot homo milk alright this is the very first time I catch you guys live and super stoked I'm a huge fan of you guys and wolf love you all also high rags lol hello hello there happy to see you and hope you haven't won tlj's lightspeed tracker was just a fob could be oh my god it could have been you never know oh my god it could have been uh based neosophistry yeah hyperspace is really cool ignoring riser skywalker frack hyperspace skipping civilization settles around and expands based on the hyperspace lanes like real life civilizations did around rivers eat uh will smith wasn't related to the girl and i robot truck pushed both their cars into the water will smith wanted her saved because she's a child and it went for uh for him instead yeah I haven't seen that for a while I just remember somebody died also high rags hello greetings come from frozen wastelands love your work you absolute massives ds2 series was amazing wish you could hook up with tb god rest his soul oh yeah it would have been really awesome to have met him oh yeah man and fucking I can't imagine the amount of shit you would have ripped into had he still been here with all the shit that's happened with the the gaming world for those of you who really like total biscuit um if you don't know Richard Lewis he's uh yeah if you if you like total biscuit you might like him I listen to his uh stuff fairly often he's a pretty decent guy so that might be an option for yeah um of course y'all still going on a side note I work as a domino delivery driver and this podcast will get me through Super Bowl Sunday thank you log man and rags may the dawn bless your souls no and you too be safe and always it's always great to hear people saying that we help them get through work can Jedi use the force to squeeze titties and ass yes yeah boy I bet they have some crazy sex I just took a huge dump and clogged my toilet mohler please say the n word in celebration thank you in advance Ewok uh not sure what the other person is talking about but vibro blades have a cortosis weave which makes a person able to use one against lightsabers I don't know man I just I don't know what vibro blades are I don't know I have no idea what those are is that the thing that Moff Gideon has in the last episode that's a dark blade idiot that's a dark blade yeah they're made of sins they're lightsabers they're dark blades powered by being evil they're stick like weapons if ever it's running out of power you have to start swearing and saying racial slurs and it gets powered up it's a very strange sword design but it works very much so very very does much is the Mandalorian not allowed to have a moment of weakness his ship was broken and he had everything to lose Shadlow Baggins I'm not sure what part of the entire that's referencing probably the Jawa thing if anything that's all the more reason for him to keep his cool so he can get it back negotiate yes like imagine if he had snuck a bomb on board the Sandcrawler ship and it was like listen here you little shits if you don't put my ship back exactly how you found it I'm gonna blow up your fucking Sandcrawler oh speaking of good monster movies what was your thoughts on a quiet place I like the idea the execution was yeah the execution was really bad I was trying to think of what I could do with that I don't think any fab movies would work and I don't think I ever want to make a video on it myself but yeah like I don't hate it it's just a poorly executed idea for a film like the river part just destroys the entire film Mupa what's your take on the walking dead I watched the first five seasons I want to say up to when Beth gets shot in one of the funniest death scenes I've ever seen spoilers if you haven't seen it at all you'll forget who that is I'm sure about it before you finally decide to watch it but if you're like a couple of episodes away from seeing that moment and I've just spoiled it for you I genuinely apologize but I mean it's been out for really long time but yeah I don't know I've always found walking dead to be pretty dumb season one is definitely the best but it's not exactly non-tism and season two is a joke and I can't believe they actually managed to get that to be something that people enjoyed it's impressive to me season two yes the one with the farmhouse the one with they try and I saw like the first two episodes so okay yeah let me ask you a question right so we're in a farmhouse right we're surviving some zombies around the world but we're mostly okay in our little farmhouse yeah I imagine if you're up at a farmhouse there's not that many zombies around and we have a water applied by a well isn't that wonderful now one day you walk to this well and you hear some noises and you're like oh what's this oh my goodness there's a zombie in there there is a literal zombie swimming around in the well water now I'm standing there with you and you're there and I say rags let's get a series of pulleys to get a lasso type rope to wrap around this zombie to pull it all the way up and out so that we can drink the water well that sounds like one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of my life but why it's not contaminated if we get the zombie out right oh my goodness do they do that? yes and the hilarious part is they spend a while doing it and when it finally gets to the top of the well when they pulled it all the way up with the rope it's body splits open and it's bottom half just falls into the well and bleeds all over the place and they're like well the water's contaminated now do they drink it no but it's just funny that they thought it wasn't contaminated until that point I guess the fact that, yeah I guess if they were thinking they could oh yeah like I would have been like this well is now off limits like obviously Moeller please say this same you did for wolf story what does that mean you covered our viewers you covered our wealth your channels fail while we endure what you will find what you will find is our curse our true king will show them we do not serve we roof alright yeah walk in dead a really dumb show and I really wish the YMS continued to rip it a new one but he decided to fry different fish yeah I heard it got pretty bad they watched it and then they just said they just stopped caring and got bad okay so these are the stream labs ones now we've managed to catch up to super chats oh my god love you guys can't wait for you to finish the breakdowns of TFA and the newest Star Wars abortion Moeller your rage on ROS is fantastic well done bud thank you two questions for Shad save those moeller please read in your best English policeman voice oh this is for Shad as well alright I'll have to save it all hello massives on 15 you say limiting artists is bad but on 16 you say limiting artists inspires creativity do you remember that rags we got called out for that way back when we said that so the idea is that we say that forced diversity is bad because it limits abilities to make the stories they want but then we say also that limitations through like say for example you make the force in future episodes of your thing you want to make certain things happen but you've made the force a boxed in thing that can only do certain things means that you are forced to be creative in terms of solving problems or creating scenarios and so people managed to construe from that that we simultaneously said that rules are restrictive and rules encourage creativity but obviously the qualifier was basically arbitrary rules versus rules you set within your own universe yeah within the universe yeah don't like it's just like rags writes his own story and then I'm just like hey all of those white people have to be black yeah it's like you can't have the letter of r in your script you can't have any three-wheeler or four-wheeler cars it has to be six-wheelers you're like what you're like well we're promoting the the six-wheeler fucking car thing I don't know like just arbitrary restrictions versus ones that come with creating universe I agree with the latter and you briefly address this on 17 but I don't feel it was a good justification p.s. I feel like we said the same thing because that's the same explanation I just gave and I use M's avatar for a project I assume M refers to Mauler in which case yes go for it have fun with whatever you're doing um yeah absolutely another confusing element in Star Wars is the color of lasers empire ships fire green rebels red stormtrooper blasters are red clone troopers are blue Padme's handgun fires green clone troopers ships fire blue and red are they food coloring them lol I don't know I think that's a fake confusion I have though I've always wondered if there's like a reason why it's different colors like does it have different properties is it slower but have more mass in the plasma does is it like are there different properties that they have just like you know ammunition and you know the real world has different properties very very curious I wonder if there's anything behind that oh that's what they meant by with a wolf story the wolf sorry the the knight the dragon the king I understand I don't know have you guys played The Last of Us it's a PS4 exclusive so not sure if you would have it's a good game IMO also rags oh hi you massive oh hi I have played The Last of Us I played The Last of Us years and years ago I never finished it I liked it but I was surprised with what people had said about it up to the point of me playing it I was like wow this is the game everyone's going nuts over okay yeah I don't know man like it was fine it was fine they said arbitrary restrictions can result in some great creative stories though you know this because you've seen midnight yeah but you didn't require restrictions to make midnight like so in that case they would have made them in spite of restrictions rather than because of restrictions as opposed to having to write your stories within the rules of your own universe which can I mean any restriction can promote creativity but it's like we said the whole arbitrary one that doesn't mean guessing is a good pathway to truth and midnight is a matter of budget not necessarily anything else like Catherine Tate's Bailey in the episode and they're mostly in one room so if the restriction there is low budget as a writer it just means a story that doesn't go to many places or has many people which isn't necessarily like you know I don't think that's such a harsh restriction compared to something like you have to have this character this character this character or something but yeah any restriction can technically encourage creativity it's just um I don't think you should impose restrictions for no, just for arbitrary reasons especially after the story is completed as opposed to before it started you both need some R&R Ra and rooftops sounds wonderfully relaxing doom annihilation is on Netflix eFab movies when it's on the list we've got to see it we've known it's been out for ages I know but I keep forgetting about it so it's every time I'm reminded of it it's like a new experience apparently Tom Holland got swapped in the MCU what really? uh Tom Holland what the fuck Marvel reportedly plans to replace him really? that can't be real like why the hell would they do that uh yeah I'm just reading a sec this looks like after this when Holland eventually makes his exit from the role the franchise will be in need of a spidey and according to industry insider Daniel R.P.K that new hero will come in the form of Miles Morales um okay I mean this is all like down the line and stuff I yeah we'll see what happens with that originally the color of blasters was dependent on the different types of gas that were used to fire right I can believe it I wonder if they have different properties to them but interesting maybe the use the ship on the ATST means a long trip back to the landing site and spending money on fuel far more expense than he's willing to manage what do you mean say that one more time the use of the ship on the ATST means a long trip back to the landing site and spending money on fuel far more expense than he was willing to manage he puts his life in jeopardy if anything he only survived because of the of luck of the terrible incompetence of the ATST like he's willing to sacrifice all those other people's lives like for what for some fuel and for a walk like that's insane rationalization is nuts to me but they should have just bombed it in the sneaking segment since it was sitting not patrolling agreed should have been their top priority is putting a bomb on it blowing it up the one bad visual was from the transdotions looking more like DS9 Jim Haddad than transdotions in episodes 1 and 2 because they are setting makeup instead of non emotive snouted masks the easy excuse for the fobs is that they only work a few miles range and only on pre-chipped people like Baileys or prisoners assuming Yabi was empire held and need dangerous EMP or surgery if they're just genetic trackers it would be bad I suppose we'll have to find out once you got out of prison you're fucking taking that thing out if you're any kind of ne'er do well if you're any kind of what if they establish it will kill you to take it out of you ragt hmm it's like that just seems like something they would work around and they would know about it and then Mando would say something but again like I said before they never even entertain the idea of how to deactivate it or to fool the system or spoof the system or anything and if it's not possible then like man they should have said it's not even possible or someone suggested Mando's like nah I can't be done I should know no I liked the scout trooper banter scene but hated the marksmanship scene thought they were damn good with their actual main weapon the cannons on their bikes Mando's weakness is going to be concussions Vesca's rare cars and droid tanks with thickness they tank with thickness I mean the thing that he was on in episode 3 didn't seem very thick and yet it was tanking a shit ton um and yeah I hate the marksmanship scene too I hate it and yeah once we get there we'll be able to highlight that they're not even that bad they managed to fucking nail quill but I guess that was because the plot needed them to nail quill um rifle could have been unloaded to prevent negligent discharge disintegrating something he should have used the prod maybe he was worried the charge inertia would break the rifle maybe there's a bit of backblast if you use the disintegrator point blank a lot of I don't I don't buy a lot of that I mean the idea I just I don't know man it comes across as people are really desperate to make him seem like he's not an idiot yeah like who is it out there that he's afraid of disintegrating I don't know but that doesn't even match up because later he just has it loaded yeah he walks around with it loaded and if you're thinking well in that situation he's with baby Yoda and good fucking discharge and kill baby Yoda what about that yeah and also like he knows what he's going to do right to kill a bunch of dudes and there's an outpost and a compound and people have died going there like man that should be loaded also surely Mandalorian whose weapons are a religion to them know things like trigger discipline and putting the safety on like basic stuff given they take 50 years to still be an infant Yoda species would not exist if they didn't have natural force talent to protect them in infancy you mean why wouldn't they just be protected by the adult visions of the species yeah they have like parents right it's consistent dumb but consistent I don't know about that and in new canon the dumber you are the better you are at the force what you talking about Rey that's very stupid I don't really think she's stupid sometimes she does some weird stuff in the third film the Jawa guns are ion cannons most models of which are actually not very good at stunning organics if only two or three hit him he would have been fine other than some armor glitches he needs to fix there were 10 and there were actually a variety of different weapons in this still in fact they actually one of the things that they did was kind of nifty was one of them it looks like they took three rifle scopes and stacked them on top of each other and connected them and basically added a handle to it to make a strange little space ion laser it was kind of nifty but yeah there were like 10 shot them besides can I just shoot more than once you'd think maybe they have to be reloaded significantly yeah they got to pump it up or something there's a frogs have been a thing since return of the Jedi well apparently they're a real thing so yeah sure I'm fine with that absolutely haven't you heathens watched predator mud blocks thermal vision or it's cold blooded even in predator they they like him covering himself 100% isn't I think they cheat a little bit with movie magic in that moment because he goes from being like absolutely mostly covered to just 100% the part that I do love is that when the predator scans the area you can spot him it's just hard to see and uh I like this the iodblast has left his helmet you don't know this shit this is just being made up he didn't get the the baby didn't get the thibbles later once he got the brass plate it's like oh my god so many excuses have to be made because it doesn't make sense on its own uh yeah and also a mud horn is really big it has a lot of body space and when it comes out it is clearly not actually covered in mud like there's no way he wouldn't be able to see it especially in a cave where it's cool and that thing is putting out an immense amount of body heat like there's no way like I get what you're saying there's no way inertial compensators and anti-concussion fields are things in Star Wars his armor may have had something like that in the circuitry to deal with blunt impact blunt impact is always weak in media anyway plus he's just a a tough bastard I guess this is to explain how he wasn't hurt more significantly by the fall man he is really tough inertial compensators anti-concussion fields circuitry to deal with blunt impact blunt impact is always weak in media also he's really tough like wow some reaching right there gotta make sure we make it believable can't have it that he's just extremely protected by the plot now the other upgrade possible to make the lockdown bigger than just a normal lock is maybe a lightening field the way Slave 1 destroyed Obi's Tracker in Episode 2 but maybe but Mando probably opened the door by remote as he ran and Carl was just waiting for the ramp to drop I suppose that's a potential explanation but you'd think that he would have had a straight shot to the ship at that point so we'd see him get on I don't know why he wouldn't he would open it well before getting there you know it's just risky however you cut it there's an issue um I love the Clotunian make up in Episode 4 but the episode was weak as hell the Raiders should also should have been the same Raiders as the second Ewoks movie they have the same mix of melee and duct tape blasters ATST should have patrolled during sneak time alright the crime racket went bust when Jabba died you don't know that you can't just base that off like third party shit yeah and I'm like I don't see how Hutt getting killed makes all the crime go away like all the criminals are just Jabba has like a family what's your name the Huts even if the Huts all disappeared people are still there like they're all there they're not gonna leave I mean it's still Moss Isley wouldn't yeah it would just be a power vacuum or crime vacuum or whatever essentially the crime racket went bust when Jabba died there were revolutions in the Hutt slave species when they saw mere slaves strangled Jabba to death that's why nobody lived to tell that tale everything exploded on that thing outside of our main heroes unless they would run around the universe telling everybody that they got strangled that's why episode 1 Nikto and episode 4 Clotunians were totally mono-racial they no longer had the huts to tie them these explanations man like there's so much that comes from just content that's dotted the made light stuff what up my Jawas hi Fringy have you seen Mr. Robot he has I don't know if he's seen the newest season but he's probably gonna be on it um Gordula the Hutt I know that it was because she shows up in Phantom Menace she's like behind him and just imagine that when you kill a Hutt another Hutt would take the Hutt's place or someone would take his place yeah it wouldn't even need to be a Hutt at that point do you guys ever get tired yes I'm actually yeah I am currently tired mm-hmm you fool killer queen has already touched the super chat have fun repeating the last two hours love you vids good night Mauler good night I made it just in time to spill my shackles on the boys thank you for doing what you do best wishes my guys best wishes to you too alright and that is us caught up with all of today's stuff um how much of an overflow thing do you think we could do rags well I am rather tired as it is so I would like to go to sleep alright well as you were when you were gone last time I collected up all of the rags related comments as in like two weird stuff I'm just gonna read them all out to you in a row okay oh yeah go for it night rags oh good night hi rags oh hello hi rags hello bye rags oh goodbye hi rags hi also hi wags hello let's rub our doggo butts together let us rub our doggo butts together traditional greeting of course also also hi rags oh hello a chat or so back I said hello rags backwards just in case it was confusing sorry if it was on the subject how is rags doing rags is doing good my life is going a okay I guess right now I'm just tired it is 1 30 in the morning here some flies when you're having fun uh this one just says rags oh hello wagas hello hi rags hi also howdy doggo howdy to you hi rags hi also hi rags oh hello also hi rags hello also hi rag hey there what kind of tea do you drink rags also hi hi hi um I just drink Louisiana just iced tea nothing fancy there I don't and unsweet I don't like sweet tea uh it's a really common thing here in Arkansas and the south especially that you have sweet tea but I really do not like sweet tea I just I don't like it I like unsweet tea that's why I that's by the way that's why I take so many after breaks in the stream is because I drink a lot of tea which is basically water yes yeah go for you uh hi rags hi also hi rags hi good night rags good night hi rags hello this also says hi jay but I kind of find that offensive I'm just gonna move on uh yeah I wouldn't worry about that I haven't watched the review what are your thoughts I think that's about episode nine which has been thoroughly done uh oh yeah I think I think your question has been answered once or twice hi rags and hail the god emperor of man oh hello and absolutely um all right and that leads us up to we were out with the overflow which normally I would tackle a bit of that but I am very tired as well and I don't like giving really shlumpy answers instead of giving a more um lumped answers that makes total sense it's proper English uh and and there was a super chat that came in saying hi rags oh hello and then hi rags hi rags mm-hmm someone's claiming to be rags top them oh I think it'll be obvious once they try and pull it off oh nothing like the real deal and uh yeah with that I suppose that brings us to the end uh next week we're going to be doing the one with all of the things I said we've been trying to do for ages we've got a shit ton of memes I'm going to have to spend a while sorting that out in prep uh we're going to listen to that I hate everything conversation I'll probably release it as a separate thing once it's covered onto a mule error it'll be an extended universe mini uh no like so the conversation I actually have with him will be an EU thing and then we will actually play it uh on stream as well so uh alright I got you um and yeah there's the movie bob thing and reading the script thing it's going to be this whole thing it's going to be great I think we'll have I think Jay is the only person I could think of who would want to do all of those things because it's going to be a weird stream I don't know what kind of guests would even want to be on that one but once that one's done we will we will be in a position of who knows what's going to come next for you FAP because we will have done all of the ones that we expected to do like this was one the Mandalorian stream we only managed to do five episodes so yes we should be chastised for that I'm sorry the long man was two longer Rooney um but of course we're very much uh hoping that we can get that all sorted out and yeah stuff is on the way working on TFA part three Admiral Fools is already set which I'm very happy about getting all that sorted out nice and early uh we got Infinity Tismas 5 coming soon and the Batwoman episodes coming soon what else is there oh yeah the wolf part one and part two videos for EFAP minis I'm going to I'm trying to find a good place to release those instead of just like piling a bunch of things out at once yeah I'll figure it out and I guess yeah that's that's about it anything anything else other than obviously yeah I hope that we can get back to these episodes later so we can wrap up the Mandalorian talk and discussion a lot to cover a lot to discuss um whenever we can get back to it man let's do it yes thanks of course to all for watching hope you enjoyed thank you very much for the donations the memes that I can find will be collected and placed in for the next one uh and thank you to our guests who stayed for so long the guest mr rags so that about brings us to the end I will read out um these these other super chats that came in from uh so the last one was i rags then it was rags and aggs and guzz I don't know what to make of all of this oh my god someone's really stretching that one out and yes uh like I said streamlabs and super chats they're all they're all caught up outside of the overflow which shall be dealt with been uh chipping away for a bazillion years definitely gonna get get it down just the um obviously very very tyrantisms right now and uh shall be continued and yeah the the sargo and efab should happen eventually um skeptic said he was interested but doesn't respond to dm's um I'm eventually gonna just fucking tweet at him saying you're annoying like respond keep track of dm's awful awful huber man man um I think like we're supposed to at some point do tldr I think he was interested need to get back to him um obviously arch with with sargon should be playing against elvis the alien elvis the alien at some point it will uh plenty of wondrous things to come and I suppose we shall see you all there thank you for watching and if there's nothing else rags I suppose this is good night good night everybody thanks for stopping by and hanging in there with toodlepip cheerio bye