 Could we have a local team? Chair Shifrin? Chair. Vice Chair Spellman? Here. Commissioner Conway? Here. Dawson? Greenberg? I'll note Greenberg absent. I'm not sure Chair worth or without notification. I'll check in with Tess upon her return. Commissioner Maxwell? Here. Commissioner Nielsen? I'll do the same for Commissioner Nielsen, Chair. Thank you. We'll move on to any statements of disqualification. We'll then move to oral communications. It's a time for anyone to speak about an item, not on our agenda, but appropriately before us for up to three minutes. Is there anybody here for oral communication? I raise hand, Chair. If anyone has raised their hand, please identify yourself and you'll have up to three minutes. In spite of speaking on behalf of dozens of my Seabright neighbors, at the last commission meeting, we finished the brief discussion of the status of 418 Pennsylvania and the We Hours. I cut my response then short and would like to amplify it today. That night, Commissioner Spellman asked if it makes any sense to this two-step process. First, you get the permit for your multi-unit project with plans showing garages. Then you build the project with the garages. Then you apply for a new permit to turn some of these garages into ADUs, and then you tear into those garages and remodel them into living units. And this is a reasonable question and it explains why the planning department came up with this policy. But now, thankfully, they are looking for some state guidance on the matter and for good reason. Consider this other two-step process, which is equally illogical if we accept this department policy. First, you apply for your multi-unit project with the garages specified by the zoning code, an objective standard that you need to meet. You then carry this project through the Planning Commission hearing and maybe through the City Council hearing to get approval. Well, that is step one. Then step two, after the hearings, these hurdles and the dealt with, you submit a simple plan revision and turn some of these garages into studios or one-bedroom units, arbitrarily calling them ADUs. Does that make any sense either? If this was what the state wanted, why didn't they write the law that way? They could have eliminated some portion of the off-street parking requirement right away, allowed the project to have some of the units be designated as ADUs and most importantly require that these ADUs not be counted against the general plan's density limit for the property. They could have written the law to accomplish this and thus avoid this other two-step maneuver if that were their intent, but they did not. The state laws have shredded so much of our local planning process. I'm sorry, but are you at the clerk's table and the minutes are up? I'm sorry, I thought he had three. Thank you. I'm hoping that you will consider the situation in future planning commission hearings. Thank you very much. Okay, I didn't want to cut him short. I did. That was a 30-second reminder chair and the time was accurate as he ended. Okay, good. Thank you very much. Welcome, Commissioner Greenberg. I don't see anybody else listed as a participant, so other than, I assume there are no more oral communications. Okay, thank you. I'll now move to public hearings. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I'll move to the approval of the minutes. It's sort of somewhat embarrassing that we have to re-approve minutes that we approved last time because they were not accurate. I want to thank Steph for going back and pressing the error. Are there any questions on the minutes? Commissioner Dawson, did you raise your hand to say something? No, I'm sorry, I didn't have a question. I just wanted to move with the suggested corrections by staff moved for approval. If there are seconds. Second. Question Greenberg, seconded. I'm not sure Commissioner Maxwell, you can vote on this because I don't think you were there. This wasn't the original. Okay. Well, Commissioner Greenberg, it's fine. But you definitely vote. Is there any discussion? Can we have a roll call to approve the corrected minutes of October 21, 2021? Commissioner Conway? Aye. Commissioner Dawson? Greenberg? Aye. Maxwell? Nielsen? That's unanimously. We move now to public hearings. This is the public hearing on 109 E-Priate Avenue and appeal of the administrative approval of a minor variation. The coastal permit, design permit and variance permit. I understand that this has been a request to continue this to our December 2nd meeting. Is there anything that staff would like to add before the commission takes action? No, we wouldn't. It's all in the memo that we attach your practice. Would anybody like to move to continue this item to our December 2nd meeting to continue the public hearing on 109 E-Priate Avenue and appeal of the administrative approval of a minor variation. Is there anything that staff would like to add before the December 2nd meeting? Yeah, I'll move to move this agenda item to the December 2nd meeting. Is there a motion in the second? Can we have a roll call? Is there any discussion? Can we have a roll call? Can we have a roll call? Thank you. I'll move to subcommittee about your body oral reports. I can report that the housing committee is scheduled to meet tomorrow. Hopefully there will be a report at our next meeting. Anybody else? Any items we refer to future agendas? Yes, I do have one announcement related to I would have to do is be small units ordinance. So that has been continued to a date uncertain as of now. And it will have to be re-noticed when it comes back formally to the planning committee. Okay, thank you for clarification. Is there any other business? Thank you all very much. Nice short meeting. We are adjourned. Hey everybody. Hi. Good night everyone. Take care. Bye.