 Live on video what how many overhyped verbs did they use Netflix earnings smash expectations stock explodes except for except for the fact that they missed on a revenue yeah so it's not exactly a smash neither right nor restrained did they did they exceed the profits expectations yeah they beat they killed earnings earnings per share expectations were two cents a share they had 10 and so they killed earnings without meeting revenue which is even more impressive it is that's why it's so smashing and blowing up and stuff probably hence all the blowing up blowing up in blackberry okay that must be so exciting to watch for the people who are watching the video afterwards so I'm going to make it my task right now to entertain those people because everyone's otherwise occupied and I am going to entertain you by telling you a story tell me a story Patrick make sure it's a story it's a what three minute or less story Jenny you have to go old producer I it was it was like you know a good story has to be about five to ten minutes well there you go conflict you know an arc has to have three acts you need to have three acts so okay let's let's try to keep it to even less than three minutes there was a chicken that chicken was living on one side of the road and he was very happy on that one side of the road he had a little chicken house he had a little chicken wife he had little chicken children and and then at some point for no apparent reason he got up left and crossed the road and everyone on the other side of the road was was looking at this and and you know after he got smashed by an oncoming car uh was wondering why did the chicken cross the road and no one could could find an answer my plate of that car netflix earnings yeah that works too i was going to go much darker place but i like yours better uh update chicken smashed thank you uh yes your patron dollars at work don't say that i'll take them away that was a good story that's all i'm saying peep master wants to know if that's a political analogy it is whatever you wanted to be make it your own all right we're gonna get this uh this show and the road oh wait out see now it takes on a holy meaning maybe it was the show that hit the chicken oh my gosh all right here we go the daily tech news show show me the daily i was bored tom the daily to support tom go to daily tech news show dot com slash support okay now you can press the button tom this is the daily tech news for Tuesday January 19th 2016 i'm tom merit joining me today as he does most Tuesdays patrick beija dts contributor and independent podcaster how are you patrick beija sir i am very happy to find out that unlike what i was thinking when you were playing that intro i am in fact not having a stroke uh i always feel very strange what when that intro is playing which i think is the goal and it's very well achieved so i would call it fun the fun of that intro yeah yeah it is as it keeps you on your toes you don't know if your podcast app's crashing or someone has broken into the studio uh we're going to talk about the hottest games coming in 2016 it's still january we still get to do look ahead for the year uh pieces uh and patrick did a great job of looking ahead on the recent pixels episode so we're going to we're going to use some of that knowledge and patrick's going to explain to me why people are excited about games some of them might even get you excited as well i know i know a couple of them will for sure but maybe ones i don't expect so we're going to talk about that in a bit let's start off with the headlines microsoft announced tuesday it has acquired minecraft edu a version of minecraft used in schools minecraft edu is used in more than 7 000 classrooms in more than 40 countries microsoft plans to charge five dollars per student annually with access to the program from any computer previously you had to pay for a server license and then run it yourself uh previously schools uh also had to pay a one-time fee based on maximum users so you can argue whether this is cheaper or not but it certainly will be more convenient for the students microsoft will not acquire the creator of minecraft edu teacher gaming however uh they will continue on as a independent startup and go on to other projects that you know when they acquired minecraft it was sort of a puzzling move but it really seems that uh that game if it's even just a game by now it keeps on giving it's pretty amazing what that that thing has turned into yeah and a lot of people criticize microsoft's acquisition of minecraft or mojang because it doesn't really synergize as they say with the rest of my microsoft's operation and i for one don't think it has to i think it can play the part of of a diverse operation that's going to give microsoft some unintended consequences of a good kind but this particular program does fit right in with microsoft's education opportunities they're fighting tooth and nail against google and apple to get the education market locked up so being able to offer a minecraft product is definitely to microsoft's advantage and also it allows microsoft to get in with the kids when their minds are still malleable and they can impress upon them the value of the microsoft brand yeah i and it's arguable whether this thing actually has any real educational benefits i mean they do cool stuff like recreating science projects or historical sites but the there is no valid research that says playing minecraft increases education for kids i'm not saying it does or doesn't we just don't know microsoft as long as they can get schools to buy it that's what they're going to do hey yeah there could be an entire episode about minecraft pretty impressive stuff yeah android police reports that some android users have noticed an option to install apps from inside a google search without having to visit the google play store so far the feature is only reported in the google app not chrome thanks to motang for posting about this in the subreddit yeah this is pretty cool so you can do this in the google app right now uh on android where you can you see an install button but as soon as you tap that install button it just launches the google play store and takes you over there which arguably isn't a big deal it's a fairly seamless experience but this doesn't even take you out of the google app it gives you a little window where you see the normal options that you get for installing an android app like permissions etc and then you press install it installs it goes away you're still in the google app and if darin was here he would wonder how long it would take for hackers to exploit this new convenience to install you know side load apps or something i guess that's an interesting question because i mean it is still using the google play store so theoretically it would have to be some kind of really bad cross site scripting vulnerability to hijack that but i bet you could fish people by making them think they've done this whether you can do that from the app though versus this isn't just the web those are all good questions yeah amazon announced the first group of dash enabled appliances today remember dash is the button that you can press to automatically reorder things well now the appliances will be able to automatically reorder supplies as soon as they run out first group includes brother printers you know reorder some ink ge washing machines that dole out exactly the right amount of detergent so they can tell you when you need to reorder detergent and the gmate smart blood glucose monitor which can reorder the strips and and lancets and things that you need to use that most work by authorizing automatic reordering through the manufacturer's website or app and the printers are ready today and the others will be working by the end of the month the api is now available too for other companies to implement besides just the launch partners so anybody who makes an appliance can conceivably do this this is something that is extremely easy to make fun of and i'm sure we've done that as well when the dash button was first announced it's still uncertain though i mean it it could be great it could be kind of annoying in the end i think the only way to find out is to just start using it and see if it becomes an annoyance or if you're just you know happy you pick it up when you i guess for companies it might work better but even for yourself you pick up the stuff from the your mailbox when you need it and you just don't even notice that you have to order it it's the kind of slight you know in a world where in a world where apps are better when they're installed from the google search you know that kind of reduce me reducing a friction is so small that i don't see why it couldn't be a good thing in the physical space as well yeah my hesitations are i like to have control over what i buy so when i buy detergent i'm always looking to see what's on sale i don't stick with the same brand all the time necessarily especially for ink on my printer i'm definitely not sticking with the same brand i'm trying to find the cheapest one i can get that that looks like it's going to be reliable so it takes away that ability to shop around and that ties into my other concern which is and hands it right over to amazon so that you're you're now just relying on amazon to provide you everything rather than being able to encourage competition yeah for sure and and i think it might also put it in the hands of the manufacturer which is probably going not going to be selling you the cheapest one but the big question is does the convenience of this whole thing outweigh the the ability to go shop and i think in certain cases it could i'm not sure that that these are for me those particular cases but bridow water filters i'd be like yeah you can't really find those much cheaper usually and and not having to think about going and buying them and reordering them that and they're one of the partners i could absolutely see that i'm looking at these other ones and there's really nothing else that i use on here yeah but that's what that's where i was i was going with the we really have to to try them out and see which ones are annoying and which ones end up performing a service Verizon announced its freebie data 360 plan today that allows companies to pay the data charge uh the data charge for customers on a per click basis businesses can sponsor up to 30 seconds of video or 30 minutes of audio the Verizon plan starts january 25th with beta trials by Hearst magazine aol and game day full availability is expected later this year and AT&T has sold sponsored data for a year now uh yeah and AT&T was among those called in by the FCC to talk about this sort of thing it's not prohibited under the open internet guidelines but the FCC likes to monitor it uh T-Mobile was called in for the same reason for their zero rating of music and video and it sounds like after that meeting Verizon came back and said great we're gonna do this too so the meeting must have gone well is my guess you know what irks me in all of this it's the new speak level of naming convention here freebie data 360 this isn't a freebie someone's paying and you know this is even more cynical it's a way for them to get you know someone else someone to pay on top of what someone else is already paying i am i am leery of this sort of thing because it can be putting the power to pick winners in the hands of the carriers right if if only the people with money can get video delivered to you that that would be a bad situation on the other hand we have just enough carriers that you could switch between even though it's way too hard to switch between and the idea that Verizon itself doesn't want to allow you to sponsor more than 30 seconds of video means this is really about letting people pay a little extra so their ads can be viewed without guilt so if i'm like okay i have to watch the ad but it's paid for by the advertiser then i'm not going to be as upset as with when autoplay happens and i'm on a limited connection so i i don't love this but it hasn't quite crossed the line for me yeah i even myself i'm an adamant defender of net neutrality this is definitely irksome it feels very dirty and it's an overly complicated system that is put in place to sort of take advantage of and go around artificial or semi-artificial constraints but yeah i would agree it doesn't it doesn't it isn't a major concern for me either there are bigger concerns if we want to start attacking these issues yeah uh dj sycani wanted us to note that amnesty international says apple samsung microsoft wall way zte hp del and sony are among just some of the companies using parts that contain cobalt mined by children in the democratic republic of congo or the drc the drc produces half the world's cobalt and unicef estimates about 40 000 children work in the mines cobalt is used in lithium ion batteries apple samsung and sony all say they have a zero toleration policy toward child labor and apple sony and microsoft all told the c net variations of a statement saying they are investigating they haven't determined for sure where the cobalt comes from but they would not use cobalt if it could be determined to come from the drc panasonic was not on the list and they make lithium ion battery or they make products that have lithium ion batteries in them you know these are always a little bit of a there's the cynic in me that says but of course they knew and they or maybe not of course but they probably knew and now that it's broken they're gonna say they're gonna investigate and then go get away from it and the other side is is thinking they're they're genuinely trying to make an effort to to not use these kinds of uh uh you know these materials obtained in that way and it's good that they're being made aware because they can do something about it and the the the problem is we will never know ever which one is right so i don't know you have to take it at face value i guess when 50 percent comes from the drc you gotta guess that a lot of these are going to have cobalt in them that comes from the drc uh and with 40 000 children working in the minds uh it's probably mined by a child that that said i think there's a bit of plausible deniability on the sides of the companies where they're like look we just buy the lithium ion batteries from a manufacturer who makes them we don't make them ourselves and we ask them where they get it from and they say it's not from from uh you know the democratic republic of congo so i guess we have to investigate further to make sure they're not lying to us there is a point at which it is difficult to ask companies to trace all the way but that's what amnesty international does is they put the pressure on say no you should trace all the way and you should cut off the supply of people who use child labor i guess that they are the ones that are there to do that or at least to point the finger where things seem to not add up so the system is working yeah yay yeah tindex says it's kind of the same argument as blood diamonds right exactly yeah yeah uh bloomberg reports that general motors has purchased the technology and most of the assets of ride sharing pioneers sidecar for somewhere close to 30 million dollars about 20 sidecar employees will join gm but not the co-founder and CEO sunil paul gm recently invested 500 million in lift and the sidecar employees will help support that and other riding ride sharing projects at gm yeah so this is uh gm picking up a little cheap technology and talent it looks like uh to help them out as they take a different tactic towards autonomous cars than forward is taking forward is looking like they want to create their own system gm's partnering to make a system but now they've got a little bit of expertise on their own side which certainly won't help won't hurt with partnerships and it gives them a little flexibility to try some things on their own yeah i just take it as yet another example that uh car companies car manufacturers are really really don't want to be uh the 2000 and something smartphone companies or phone companies and that's good on them the verge reports elliptic labs is showing off new software called beauty that uses ultrasound sent from your phone's earpiece to determine how near your head it is without the need for the actual proximity sensor elliptic claims its software is at par or better than infrared sensors currently used but it doesn't increase power consumption and it does take away a component that adds to the bulk of your phone elliptic hopes to have devices integrating the new technology out sometime this year so it's more than just a firmware upgrade apparently you do need to tweak uh you need to integrate it is is the way they put it somehow but it would allow you to get rid of a sensor which could make phones lighter and possibly even a little thinner interesting in ganning sent us the news that frustrated developers wrote a letter to github saying that the company isn't addressing flaws in the open source coding platform quickly enough and that the company is difficult to reach the devs are requesting a template system for feedback and a way to upvote a project without having to comment yeah this is one of those things where you could look at it and say as i think somebody on our subreddit commented uh devs are always fighting with each other but this one is getting a lot of attention it was upvoted very quickly on hacker news um people are signing up uh for the letter at a rapid pace so it sounds like it's more than just the background grumbling uh that that people have sometimes it does seem as if github really isn't reacting with enough alacrity to a widespread number of developers not just the the loudest people and git lab itself has even responded to this saying we know this what letter wasn't pointed at us but we want to say this is the things we're doing uh to listen to people so one would expect uh github needs to get their act together that's it that's all you got yeah yeah you know yeah i was i was trying to see how long that uncomfortable pause could go uh and gadget reports chip company samsung has a new type of DRAM called hbm 2 that operates at 256 gigabytes per second seven times faster than the best ddr five chips the 20 nanometer chips are initially aimed at server manufacturers samsung will start with four gigabyte modules with four layers of eight gigabit cores and plan on introducing eight gigabyte products with eight stacks by the end of the year samsung also claims a space saving of 95 percent over gddr five in graphics cards and that means cooler and faster gpu's for you to put in your gaming PCs and that is where i get interested suddenly you're like wait what was the name of that hbm 2 again good good to know uh yeah this is this is blazing fast ram here it's crazy it's yeah i mean it seemed like gddr five has been the fastest type of ram we've had for ever you know it's been like what three years and um it's it's funny because i'm sort of i know we always need more speed but i don't think the the cpu's are getting that much faster in you know clock speed so i'm not sure we need incredibly faster rams except for maybe specialized hardware but i don't know maybe i'm wrong i i hear the person who's like i want as little latency as possible so i absolutely yes i mean there are people who always want more for sure but i think you're right it the the it's a diminishing return at this point right yeah yeah exactly uh netflix reported revenue of 1.67 billion dollars up from 1.31 billion a year ago with earnings of 10 cents a share analysts have predicted 1.83 billion so they missed that but they crushed the projected earnings analysts and only projected two cents a share of earnings so they they multiplied that times five uh miss on revenue big beat on earnings and missed expectations with 1.56 million new us subscribers they expected more themselves but they beat their own expectations with 4.04 million new subs internationally and that's become the tail the last couple of quarters for netflix they're still growing domestically in the us but not as fast as they want to but they're going gangbusters internationally there've been a couple articles i've read saying netflix is going to become an international focused company and the content is likely to reflect that over the next few years which honestly is pretty great everything they've produced has been stellar to this point and it seems that at least for some countries i know that it's the case in france they have deals with the authorities when they get into a country to participate in the cultural life of the country maybe that's just a french thing but they are producing a series a tv show set in france in marseille in the south of the country and i've recently watched narcos which was amazing and leveraged a lot of local talent so i'm very excited about this if only because it might mean that we're going to see high quality productions with american know-how and mixed in with local expertise so that could be super interesting yeah it's on the just what i just wanted to say on the financial side they beat earnings by an incredible margin while coming short on revenue which is is pretty amazing yeah it shows that they they're not wasting their money yeah definitely and finally ibm beat analyst expectations on sales of 22.1 billion dollars in q4 and on non-gap earnings per share of four dollars and 84 cents analysts were expecting 481 uh 4.81 on sales of 22.04 billion so they they just comfortably beat both this marks the 15th straight quarter of declines in sales revenue for ibm though but it was as expected and that my friends uh is thanks to you at the subreddit dailytechnewshow.reddit.com you help keep us healthy uh and well-rounded and knowing what kinds of things uh a number of you want to have in the show the show gets better the more of you participate so head on over to dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines all right we're gonna look at the games of 2016 the games that are coming in 2016 patrick and you've broken it up into five sequels and then five new properties right yeah the thing is so it's just going to be some of the games i'm sure not all of them are going to be represented and some people are going to be angry we have time to do all the games yeah exactly because i'm not going to talk about final plant c15 or you know whatever other game that they they're excited for um but yeah sequels are always super exciting because you already know the base product and and it's very easy to get hyped for the next one of the the next uh version of the thing you already love but it's also uh very exciting to think of new things so i couldn't quite decide which ones i would be the most excited about so i just decided five of both would work well uh we have a lot to get through then that's 10 games and we usually only give 10 minutes to our discussion section so so to keep us on target i will announce the game what platforms it on and if it has a release date and then we're bringing in our producer jenny josephson with the timer to keep us to 60 seconds per game for patrick to explain why i should care yeah so 10 games in 10 minutes i can do it it's a challenge jenny are you ready i am ready all right here we go with the first one you can start the timer when i when i finish with the explanation our pressure is on uncharted four a thief's end coming out april 26th on ps4 take it away patrick so uncharted four is uncharted the uncharted series is incredibly successful and it it has a know-how of a naughty dog which has been doing basically adventure games that are easy to get into but incredibly engaging they have amazing um voice support voice actor support and motion capturing and the scenes are basically played by real actors and captured and into integrated into the game these are a type of games that you can just enjoy as much by watching them as you could by playing them they're super fun good streaming games good streaming games but mostly good playing the game with someone you know a spouse or friend sitting by your side and enjoying it with you the acting is breathtaking and this one seems like it's going to be just as good very excited for that one done wow under time street fighter five february 16th for ps4 and pc from capcom street fighter is currently i guess the only name in the fighting game genre it's super exciting the fifth one is super exciting because street fighter is a name i think everyone remember most gamers remember from the 90s and their childhood or or college years and it sort of went away a little bit and then came back in the 2000s with street fighter four that was just a little bit too complicated for everyone to get back into but the fifth one coming out in just under a month is aiming to make it just this tiny little bit more accessible so that everyone can get back into it so if you want to play ryu or ken or dal seam or zangief and crush your friends with it and have those uh couch fun evenings where you're yelling at your friends for beating you that's a game you might want to be looking at keeping your eye on definitely a nostalgia play yeah for sure under time again no he's under time i keep waiting to make some finish him uh persona five coming sometime this year we don't have a date yet ps3 and ps4 from altas so it's coming uh in the summer probably in japan we're hoping it's going to come in the west in uh in uh in this year as well persona is a very strange series this is a japanese rpg so it's very peculiar not everyone is going to like it however if you do uh this is the the the best version of that and one thing that i really enjoy is the fact that it plays in uh tokyo in the modern day it's not you know some fantasy world or some futuristic sci-fi thing it's current tokyo and uh it's it it has incredible art direction and incredible design so that the quality and the popularity of persona four might make persona five a game that is going to be uh a breakout in the west as well a pretty game yeah it's pretty and and especially different uh mass effect andromeda coming in december pc ps4 expound from ea so mass effect is basically if if uncharted four was indiana jones uh and it kind of is mass effect is the space opera uh version of a game it is uh franchise that started not so long ago maybe five years ago um and basically came back to uh real fun uh role playing game with a lot of possibilities a lot of uh endpoints and a lot of freedom for you to do what you want become friends become lovers with whoever you want but in the setting of that grand amazing uh uh space uh world that they created and i think it it's not certain it's going to come out in 2016 but if it does i think it's going to be a great uh opportunity for people to get into that series because it's a completely different uh uh universe i guess not universe but a different setting it's not the same heroes and uh they're they're changing the change of the plot ah ah uh some kind of game in the zelda universe without a name probably on the we you maybe on the nx probably coming this year so zelda we you has been planned for uh last year and now is planned for this year and the the funny thing with zelda is that we really don't know much about that specific game uh we've seen maybe a couple of minutes of footage that didn't show much but still it's zelda so everyone is incredibly excited about this myself included yeah yeah and uh there is the added benefit of the drama or not the drama but the wondering of whether or not it's gonna come out on the we you only or on the we you and the potential next nintendo console that we don't know anything about it's probably gonna be that case um but we'll see but yeah i i couldn't mention at least one of those incredible unicorn games that everyone's waiting for so zelda is going to be the one not last guardian not any other but zelda i think it's going to speak to the most people in this audience still under time i think i just have a timer i know right i i i do have a timer all right uh the new ip because zelda is probably the the biggest sequel that i'm excited about let's start with horizon zero dawn sometime this year from on ps4 from gorilla games horizon zero dawn is another one of those well we're getting into new ip so it's not there there are no guarantees here uh but that one was the breakout title of e3 last year it's a setting of uh the the buzzword for that game is post post apocalyptic so it's basically after everything has broken down uh how does society rebuild itself in sort of a tribal way uh the hero is a young female that hunts dinosaurs made of robot parts yes the whole world is basically wild uh a wild uh jungle of some kind of uh or tundra with populated by robotic dinosaurs and it seems like it's going to be an action game with a little bit of uh uh storytelling a single player experience we're not sure it's going to be great but it certainly looks like it's going to be great and again dinosaurs made of robot parts seriously come on what do you else you need uh no man's sky coming june 2016 on ps4 and pc from hello games this one's the one i'm probably most excited about in this category yeah this one is it's the buzz and the the hype is starting to die down a little bit but they're taking their time to make sure that there's something to do in that game which we have not seen an iota of gameplay from everything we've seen is basically a huge universe made of millions and hundreds of millions of of systems and planets that you can go explore and land on as a space explorer and discover the different uh wildlife and fauna and flora and and planets themselves they're going to be attributed to you when you land on it it's going to be you know uh tom uh honky 27 discovered this planet and everyone is going to uh sorry everyone i'm looking at jenny uh who's laughing now everyone's going to know that you are the one who found it and the art direction is pretty amazing as well so it's an exploration space game that seems to be arcadey enough for everyone to enjoy for honor uh sometime this year maybe on ps4 xbox one and pc from mooby soft this is a big question mark uh they basically ubisoft uh asked the question can we do a sword fighting game uh competitive sword fighting game with uh controllers that works well and it seems like they have found a way of making it work the control scheme seems like it works so you're gonna move your controller to parry and to attack in different directions and different sides of your character so it's not a shooting game it kind of works like a third person shooting game except you're only using swords uh the big question is is this actually going to work is it going to be fun but it certainly looks like the best attempt at this that we've seen so far um we've only seen some footage i don't think a lot of people have tried it so it's still uncertain but if they pull it off it could be a very interesting take on um you know the competitive uh versus type of games hat tip to neil stevenson and subutai uh fire watch come in february 9th pc os 10 and ps4 from composanto fire watch is a storytelling game it seems um it has a very peculiar type of uh art direction it's very beautiful it's really beautiful but beyond that we've seen a couple of two minutes trailers and what struck me was the storytelling seems really masterful um they managed to get you interested in that in what's happening in that world uh with just a few a few lines it's basically a forest uh guard i guess um who goes away from his watch tower and explores the things the land while talking with someone on his walkie-talkie and just one little piece of story from there he's exploring he's talking he's having fun and then she tells him hey are you back at your watch tower he says no i'm just i'm walking around you you're hearing me and she says then who is it's jack carowak and he's riding desolation angels possibly possibly uh and then finally overwatch uh coming the summer amazon says june 21st i don't know whether to believe him pc ps4 and xbox one from the company patrick used to work for blizzard so this is uh latest possible release day june 21st it's probably going to come out a little bit earlier uh it's a game i played the beta for late last year and i adored that game i probably talked about it a few times on this show i can't remember but i talked about it on every show um it's i thought i was going to like it but i really loved it it's the approachable first person shooter game uh competitive first person shooter game it's very easy to get into and it does what blizzard does best which is take a genre of game and take the essence of the fun of that game remove all of the complication and the tedium and make that fun accessible to quote unquote normal people and certainly in that game it works at least it worked for me um i had huge amounts of fun playing the different characters i love the art direction uh and i think a lot of people who are who think they're not into fps's might like this game so keep an eye on that one as well i didn't enjoy the beta but only because i wasn't allowed in to it um i did enjoy the little bit that i played at blizzcon though and i am not a first person shooter guy and i really i really had fun with it so i think you're right about that is that and that's it we're we're done yeah ten games i feel like i feel like we should have tried to trick him into going longer or something like we barely needed the timer i know patrick we really admire your broadcasting discipline standing by clap thank you for patrick thank you all right i'm bowie all right uh let's get to our pick of the day oh but oh i should i'm remiss if i don't mention uh if you want more about those games and more discussion about why they are anticipated uh check out pixels at frenchspin.com that's the latest episode with you and garret and yeah and that's it that's it just you and garret windsow from the anger chicken uh hey that charlie dude sent us a pick he said hi tom and guest and jenny and roger and everybody else i wish i had installed my pick on my wife's computer since it auto updated to windows 10 last week oh well gwx control panel from ultimate outsider dot com will allow you to block get windows 10 ad pop-ups delete windows 10 installation files and more all from a gooey interface so there's no need to open the registry i'm currently running it on my laptop and i find it easy to use and did i mention that it's free uh so if you don't want to bother the diy fix that microsoft put out here's another easy way to do it especially maybe if you want to put it on somebody else's machine i think it could be interesting at some point someday to discuss the pros and cons of having windows 10 pester you all the time to install the latest version or install windows 10 yeah it's a gwx control panel ultimate outsider dot com we'll have the link in the show notes as well send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com you can find more picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks and one email harry is an airline pilot who is skeptical about autonomous cars now he makes the point that an airplane's flight is much more predictable than a car's uh you're you're in the air there's less traffic you got one place to go uh and it still requires an army of pilots air traffic controllers maintenance people etc to keep it flying safely and planes still aren't fully autonomous they do have autonomous aspects but you still have to have a pilot there here's what he writes here's the bottom line level four autonomous cars are 20 plus years away in my opinion no matter what the pundits tell you level four autonomous cars in the next five years is pure fantasy no matter how much you want it and then he cites an article from new york times uh that kind of fleshes out a lot of his views he says who is going to buy an autonomous car after the first cell phone video makes the news of a helpless driver going off a cliff not being able to stop the car because the steering wheel and brakes have been deemed to not be needed unless you believe hardware and software made by man is flawless something like this will happen and with 300 million drivers on the road every day it might happen often he says this will happen often uh i i don't know that it'll happen as often as he's implying but i this is a really good point i don't think the autonomous cars that will just do everything on their own and don't require human supervision are five years away i i think he's right if not for the technical reasons he's right for the social reasons uh because there will be an accident and and hopefully not but probably will be a fatality and it only takes one to be covered for a lot of safety provisions to be required or if the safety provisions are already in place to be strengthened so patrick i i think harry's right we're going to have autonomous cars with human supervision for a while before we get to what he's calling level four which is the car just doesn't need to have a human interacting with it yeah i'm not exactly sure anyone is saying that we'll actually have level four autonomous cars sort of did which is what i think harry's well so well again i'd like to separate two things i think there's a difference between the the capability of having those and he's sort of mixing this and the social component of it which we won't be allowed we won't be ready to accept it because yeah yeah and death by an autonomous vehicle is not going to be accepted ironically as well as a death by someone who's driving um and and that those are two different things um i agree that it's probably optimistic to think five years they're going to be able to do it but i'm wondering if it's not going to be in ideal conditions they could do it and yes there would be where do we set the line for example the bar less deaths in theory than uh not autonomous cars that could happen i could see it happen if every car was autonomous i guess it's it's all very complicated and and and muddy i don't think we can say definitively in five years time we're not going to have a car that can drive itself in theory are they actually going to be on the road driving themselves without any issues that's a different question um and also for the for the airplanes um whether or not we have autonomous airplanes right now um i think might also depend on the kind of technology that's required i would argue that possibly in the past 10 years the bounds the leaps and bounds that technology has made have made autonomous cars possible and maybe if we applied it to planes it would be somewhat possible a little bit as well i mean autopilot all but flies the plane uh now but i i think the the main point harry's making is probably the social one he seems to be a little more skeptical that the technology can perform as well as people may be implying it can and i think that's that's worth having a discussion about it's all about percentage success right cars technology right now can be entirely autonomous a car can drive around without a human in it right now the question is how often will it have a problem they can't i don't think they'll ever have an autonomous car that will drive 100 without a problem ever because we don't have human cars that can do that i don't think we need to have it as 100 percent just an improvement on what we have now which with humans driving is pretty bad i i think the question is have we reached a point where autonomous cars are good enough that we could make the argument that they should take over from humans and i think that's where harry's point is the strongest which is then it's about perception and it's about comfort level and you know are we willing to give up control and is it safe to give up control and and what kind of rules we put in place there and i that's that's where i think he's right because the technology can do it right now especially in ideal conditions uh it's that's really not the question the question is can it do it well enough to let our minds rest easy but at the same time if you push too much in too much into the social question i don't know that you know let's say you get a thousand deaths a year with uh driver cars and a hundred deaths a years a year with driver less cars still when those happen and you point the finger at that robot that was driving you and that the manufacturer couldn't so it could it could also be argued that we would never have them because people will never accept them so i don't know i i don't think that's true i mean air travel is a great example of where perception changes safety requirements right air travel is much safer than than auto travel right now but it's the perception and the fear around it that causes us to hold it to a higher standard than we hold automobile travel it's it's very much a psychological issue yeah so anyway thank you harry for sharing your experience with us really appreciate that and thank you patrick masia for sharing your experience with us well done on on the the the lightning round game review i found that very helpful personally well i hope that the listeners also found it helpful i you know that gaming is one of my passions and i hope that if you are not into games or if you used to be and you you're thinking maybe i'm going to be interested that one of those games might have gotten you into it and if so i have done my job and my mission is accomplished frenchspin.com of course to find pixels where you can hear more about those games and and gaming in general and of course there is the 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child of the late 80s early 90s when did that song come out 86 late 80s i thought so but push it real good um so that's my favorite uh what title should we pick oh i officially won the next door dot com game yes you want to know how how by having the best ever next door update okay hold that thought yeah are we picking amazon dash push it real good i mean i i kind of think or i was born gaming patrick you make the call oh my god i can't choose between jenny and someone else i feel too guilty i can't access show but oh it's uh it's at a different address today well the amazon dash has one more vote in the the show about it so done okay go ahead jenny okay now most of these are regular like normal ones like cherimoya school tour stolen bikes uh casting for a home renovation show pretty standard stuff in my neighborhood but here's one post title exotic animals should not be party props live signatures tonight live signatures yeah that's the part that really got me like what are you signing and you have to sign it live i know i thought it was kind of amazing live but the idea that like that's my neighborhood where they're like seriously concerned about exotic animals as party props makes me want to investigate more oh wait sorry there's also sketchy man we call red what i don't understand the yet there's like a whole post that's concerned about some sketchy guy named red which i think is very disrespectful to morgan freeman why is that uh offensive to morgan freeman isn't that his name in shashank is it red i don't remember yeah maybe he just looks like him maybe that's what they call him that yeah red nandy i don't know yeah i know wouldn't it be weird if i was signing endangered animals let's look at that one what stop the practice of allowing exotic animals like the lion and elephant and giraffe being used as party props someone is using a lion as a party prop oh i know what they're doing is like when they uh hire out exotic animals for a bit yeah that seems like a bad idea anyway well i guess for some people who hire them out it's like oh it's like hiring a pony for a little kid's birthday except it's a lion would you hire a lion for ellie's first birthday that sounds like a very bad idea any any any quick perusal the internet will uncover a million humans that shouldn't be allowed to do much of it that's fair point it's like oh what was that one where the um like this grandmother was killed by a pet elephant and the guy the the guy who owned the elephant and who was the son it's like well i didn't think it was an issue because i always met my like little baby girl play with the elephant it's like it's an elephant you keep you kept it in the trailer part what did you think was gonna happen elephants are animals of high taste you just can't stick them anywhere very refined yeah you are an animal of excellent taste you know it's not referred to their peanuts creamed others like it well i for one think uh i'm in agreement with jenny that that was an excellent successful show it was a great show it was really you know what i i really like the element of the timed bit where you like you get under 60 seconds that they kind of added a little excitement yeah a little tension it's kind of like we used to do the speed run on copper help yeah yeah it's fun next time we'll do it with the blockchain okay you've got 60 seconds explain bitcoin no you know what you should do is do it old school and get like a giant hourglass that you put and you flip it over it's like all right patrick whoever you have exactly this much time to you know to do whatever you need to do so there's some sort of if you would actually ever run out of time patrick uh i would have done like you only called time once and it was because i was still commenting right yeah yeah the only time yeah the only time he came near was when you asked a question he had to follow up but it was nice try tricking them good effort um it was it was uh it was a pro move it was pro move uh i have to go because i have to both get a haircut and go have coffee with katie best well i'll tell katie best i said hello the best to kate hi give my best to kate i don't know who it is but i say hi as well kate katie best is just terrific hey katie she's the best i think it's in the name um says it all hi i'm still exporting hey that could be a cool startup business how like a portable hair salon where instead of people coming to you you you can wheel out your equipment to wherever they're at say like oh they're having coffee do you do their hair where they're having coffee do their hair where they're having coffee you know i've just i i made this they made this rather glib comment on uh twitter saying that really they should just relabel rename the apic economy to the middleman economy and that's what i'm gonna try to do and insert myself into everybody's startup clever patrick i should i meant to ask you this in the show and i forgot uh if you could pick just one game could you pick just one game oh wow that is very difficult just one it's a good thing i you didn't ask me on the show i would have needed another 10 minutes to my heart would be very torn between uncharted for an overwatch yeah very very torn i think if i really really had to choose oh my god you're killing me it would be overwatch because i think i could play that game longer um there's less replayable there's no replayability in uncharted or very little but i think that the sheer possibility of a theoretical situation where i wouldn't get to play uncharted four would make my brain software bug and unable to respond wow that's a tough call but you you narrowed it to two yeah are you do you find yourself playing more pc or ps4 or whatever is it all split just depending on the game yeah it's depending on the game it's depending on the game i i i play it depends on the game on my mood um i'll go wherever the game is basically i'll go wherever i go where the games are i play a lot less i play a lot less console games just because it's it's hard when i'm playing and then she'll want to ali will want to try to grab the controller but oh she's doing something really fun i need to insert myself so it's all pc but i'm really excited for mass effect as in andromeda yeah see that's the thing though we don't know anything about it it could suck well did you play the last three i played the first one i loved it second one i didn't like it i played maybe five hours third one i didn't play yeah the second one was kind of a bridge game like like a bridge movie where it just kind of connects the two at the end i i'm really hoping they expand out the exploration aspect of the game so it's not so much a fetch mission that is my problem with the second and the third one the first one the universe was your oyster you could go anywhere look for it you know different things it was very open uh and it felt that you know you felt like you had the universe available for for you to enjoy in the second one the gated you know there was like three planets you had to finish and then three more plant that was that killed it for me yeah so that's yeah i really hope if andromeda is more open i would be very happy and you're and you're still on fallout for playing or no i didn't it didn't work for me it didn't work for me it's a little bit i don't know i i have to play more but i i got into uh heroes of the storm uh involuntarily it's uh it does it does have a it does have a very narcotic like effect like skyrim like you play and you're playing it non-stop for like a while and then after a while you're like okay i'm done well i'm just playing until over what comes back playing overwatch there hasn't been an xbox one game that they've announced that i'm at all i mean except maybe it's a cup or whatever that i'm actually interested in which one oh yeah the one that looks like a 1920s cartoon yeah cuphead it's cuphead it's fun uh i mean it looks fun i don't think it's gonna be you know a console defining game and the xbox one is sorely missing it is it is i'm actually a little amazed at how little work was done for like getting some really iconic i mean you got halo but you can only flog halo for so long and to so many people yeah i i played halo five and i think my issue with it was i wasn't a halo fan before and it obviously it stayed true to the mechanics of the the previous ones and it felt a little bit too old school for me so yeah i didn't i never played halo until i got the xbox one it came with the master chief edition i played all four i mean i like the games as first person shooters but you know overall i mean you just really have to be into that kind of i'm capture the flag or some sort of um three on three or deathmatch or something where you're you know it's a frag game play this thing you played the single player yeah i tried playing multiplayer but i have really bad luck on xbox live playing with other people like i just you know i mean yeah i can very well know what you mean like left for dead on steam is really easy to pick up people to play with and part of it is the game mechanics right like people can vote other people out and it's it it's uh uh it's cooperative it's not you know yeah exactly that's that's the most important thing all right we're posted i'm out of the post so thanks everybody for watching and uh oh if you follow me on snapchat it says detect uh you can see the preparation for this episode all the way to the publishing uh done and i'll save that out and put that up on youtube as well see you later bye