 Hey guys, hey guys, happy to have everybody on board tonight. We have a very special guest with us, Tana down. I think she's below me. Will she be below? Yeah, hopefully she's below. And we've been working with Tana for, I don't know, the last two, three weeks, a month now. And we just thought it was a great opportunity this evening just to get her on board for a genuine chat. So Tana, thank you for being with us this evening. Do you want to talk about your challenges throughout your life with, I don't know, maybe dieting and how you found the continued diet? Yeah, guys for inviting me. So, like, I've had weight challenges pretty much off and on since I was about 10 or 11. So, you know, as you can imagine, I've probably done every like fad diet out there from, you know, Jenny Craig, weight watchers, all of them. So I kind of stumbled upon the ketogenic diet during the Atkins kind of like craze. But I think a lot of people misunderstood like Dr. Atkins. And I did a lot of reading on my own and kind of informing myself and realize that he wasn't really saying you could eat like, you know, a pound of bacon and, you know, a half a dozen eggs. There was a lot to the actually the science behind it. And if you really listened to him, there was a lot of good science behind it. So I think that his idea kind of evolved into the whole ketogenic lifestyle that we like know today. So I kind of like have been like on and off ketogenic for about the last 10 or 15 years. And I know we were just talking before we jumped on live there and you were saying that you have had some challenges in the past there with, you know, like being able to get into like a good keto system. I mean, you know, at this stage, you want to talk a little bit about that and then Dustin, maybe if you can tell us like how that happens and why that happens, not just for Tana, but for people in general. So yeah, tell us about those challenges that you're facing on sort of like, I know you're, you're a very informed person and you were doing like blood testing and all that, weren't you? Yeah, I actually one of the first things that one of my people that I was talking with told me to do is go buy an inexpensive meter. Like the where you could test your ketones and I was, you know, doing 20 grams of carbohydrates or less per day and was only poking like a 0.3. So that's actually a blood with my blood glucose meter. I do have like, you know, a sluggish thyroid and they do have like, but I don't have any other health issues. I don't have any, you know, other major health issues other than I've been overweight, like I said, most of my life. And now I'm 56. I know that like weight, weight and age and all that stuff play into a lot of it. Well, I like to hop in here. And first off, I don't, I was looking for my blood meter, but basically it's like a glucose meter, but it's for ketones. So you poke your finger and then you push up the blood, you wipe it off, push it out again and then you have to calibrate the meter and then, and then get a ketone level. And 0.3 ketones is not therapeutic. It's a small level of ketone. So people that are trying to elevate their ketone levels, they, you know, they are going to be 0.3 at parts of the day, but you want to keep them elevated to more of a therapeutic above 0.5, 1, 1.5 or more ideal. And just so everybody knows, I'm not a huge fan of doing that consistently. As long as you have the right formulating results, if you're not getting results, we may have to check in from time to time. But it was interesting, Tanya, I know that after you drank ketones, you drank this amazing product. What did your ketone levels go to after you did that? It went from 0.3 to 1.9. So that's pretty amazing. And I was just kind of messing with it, you know, because you want, as they say, my grandma used to say, the perfect proof is in the pudding. So I was going to like see, like if it worked and I drank my drink in about an hour later, I did my stick test and I went from like 0.3 to 1.9. Wow. So why this matters so much, y'all, is the, what's funny, Liam, I saw somebody was coming in my room and it was your room. I was like, wait a minute, my wife's not here. But what's funny about that is, or what's important about that is that when you get to that 1.9 or above 1 or 0.5, what happens is that it has a huge impact on your cognition, how your muscle preservation is, how your heart functions, how your body functions. So you're going to be more disciplined when it comes to carbohydrate eating, or you're going to feel like you want to move more, or you're going to sleep better, or your joints are going to be more loose, and you're going to ultimately feel better towards your goals. So having that higher number is really, really important. But there's something I want to, I want to mention, Tanya, is this, is that, did you, let me ask you this question. When you saw the 0.3, did you feel discouraged at all or feel like? Yeah, it's definitely discouraging when you're sticking to a 20 carb or lower per day. So you're giving up, you know, some things that you like. Obviously having done keto for quite off and on for quite a long time, I stopped eating a lot of this stuff. There's obviously some things that I would like to have, like I like baked potatoes and stuff like that. So you're giving up things to switch to a different lifestyle, but you're not really seeing results. So yeah, you do start to get kind of frustrated with it. Right. And then what happens is people then quit and they stop because they were like, what's the point? Why do I keep doing this? And it's not going to result. So I want to take everything really quick in the chat if you can put down on the chat, if you had one of those sticking moments where you feel like things aren't working the way they should be. And I'm not going to get too nerdy here, but just a little bit. Yes, you're 55. Yes, your hormones have changed. All those things do matter. They have an impact, right? But there's something that's really important that I expressed. And there's some new research that's come out where, because what I'm going to share with you might have started when you were 10 years old. So it's like almost not even your fault anymore. I mean, if it happens to us when we're kids, because our parents' choices, like my parents' choices were not great for me when I was a kid. And some of the challenges started when I was 10 or eight. So I'm trying to correct them now, but I'm holding myself this as a high standard and not getting results. So there's a thing called the glute 4 transporter. And it's a mechanism that if it's not activated or active, you can't metabolize body fat even on a perfectly formulated ketogenic diet. So the best diet in the world for you to get healthier or burned fat, you may not be able to get long-term results on it because this thing isn't activated. So they studied our product. They study a lot of things, but one of them was our products. Well, our product actually activates that glute 4 transporter. This is roughly anywhere from 40 to 60% of us watching this have that as a deactivated transporter. So as a trainer, I used to tell my clients to get mad at them like, it's your fault. You're doing this. You need to do this better. That glass of wine, that piece of chocolate messed everything up. And the reality is it probably wasn't any of those things. It most likely was this activator. So we have to keep it activated. So you're now in a path to activate that glute 4 transporter and balance out some of those hormonal things that are going on to ultimately get the results you're looking for and sustain it. And maybe you won't even have to follow a full ketogenic diet to do that. Maybe it's going to be a hybrid down the road with drinking ketone. So I just want to show everybody if you feel sometimes that you're fighting uphill and not getting the results you wanted. I was going to say to keep on that sustained path, what sort of things should she be doing or continue to do or add in to keep getting those results? Now, I mean, obviously it's not all about just getting a high ketone level. What are some other things that she could add in or start doing or changing along the way? Yeah, well, one of the things that people don't realize and I know Tanya has a little bit of a respiratory thing going on right now is where you're encouraging or move your body. But when your body metabolizes and burns body fat, you have to excrete out the aftermath, right? The exhaust of the fat. And there's three ways that your body does that. One through urine, one through sweat and one through your breath. So what's important about that is stay hydrated and physical activity because you breathe more and you're more likely to sweat. So physical activity will be very, very important. Now, that doesn't have to be crossfit, which Liam and I are all for. It doesn't have to be running marathons. You have to just start moving your body if it's starting to start with walking. But you do have to advance that as you get in better shape. You're going to want to challenge yourself a little bit more because otherwise you're not going to get as much breath or as much sweat coming out. So I would say those two water and exercise or activity is really important. We can talk about sleep in there is really important too. And then the last thing is fasting. Fasting has been proven now to be one of those key components to not only short-term success, but long-term success. And what does that look like for you, Tana? Are you someone that's sort of fasting at the moment, would you say? Or are you a breakfast person? Or let's give you some skills and tools that we can maybe help you with that. One of the things I started doing when I joined that 10-day challenge that you guys had on the Kato Beginners like page. One of the things I did was because I'm not much of a breakfast person, I'm a late riser, is I just started intermittent fasting. So I get up in the morning, I drink my Kato drink, and then I don't eat anything until 12. And then like I'll eat at 12 if I'm hungry. Sometimes I don't eat until two or three because I'm not hungry. So I just kind of eat when I'm hungry. What you'll notice when you're on the, when you do the Kato or West like is that you're not hungry. Right. So what happens when your ketone levels get higher, it has an impact on hormones, granulogrelin that actually triggers hunger. So what's happening is your body now it can be more sustainably tapping into your fat stores that provides the energy you need. So that's why we like the intermittent fasting. And in long term, we do teach some cycling fasting, meaning that you're going to want to feed every once in a while. But as a whole, intermittent fasting is a great way to start fasting approach to get make, to maximize your experience and results. And they show people that, you know, might only eat one meal a day if they have enough body fat and they're tapped into their fat stores. Some people do two a day. William and I probably are primarily two a days. Some days I do do three, but most of the time I just do two meals a day and every once in a while I just do one. Yeah, usually I either eat two or just one. A lot of times if I make it till three o'clock, I'll just eat a snack, a goite snack and then wait till dinner time and then eat my dinner. Also, I did pick up your eye, one of the packages of eye fast. So I'm looking forward to doing the eye fast. Yeah, I get mine and soon, Tana, we're going to do it together. So I'm really excited about that as well. Yeah. And I know you've had some really good results lately because I saw a little post here on social media. Tell everyone about the results you've got in their head in just the last while. Like my first goal was because I told Liam that I was at 388 and when you weigh that kind of, when you weigh that, you can't like buy a treadmill. Like they want you to buy like a bow flex or like 1899 because the weight ratings are they're not very many weight rated treadmills out there that aren't like $2,000. So my first goal was to lose enough to buy one that I could afford that was, you know, in a decent price range. So I had to drop about 40 pounds to do that and I did that pretty quickly. And I got my treadmill and now I'm just working on my next goal, which is another, I'm just going to do it. You know, one of my, it's not really pertains to weight loss, but it does kind of pertain to weight loss. My favorite programming teacher used to say, how do you eat elephant one bite at a time? She was talking about computer bites, but it's still a good analogy. I mean, seriously, like if you, and I think Liam and Dustin, we were all talking about this. You can really self-sabotage yourself by making the goals paintable. Right. And then like the negative self-talk. I was talking about that earlier. So you have a bad day and then instead of like just brushing it off and worrying about the next day you beat yourself up. Yeah. And consistently do that. And then you give up. And it's super important as well that when things do slow down or they do stop, you know, lean on us to maybe ask the questions of like, so why is that happening? Right now, once again, I'm doing this right. I'm doing that right. I'm doing this right. And I'm doing that right. And what I find all the time is people don't know what they don't know, right? You could be doing something that you think is, you know, tip top spot on the right thing to be doing. But where you're at in your journey, you may be thinking or doing it a little bit too early or a little bit too late or not in the right place. So, you know, Dustin, if we could give Tana maybe some, give her three tips for the next three months of her next journey that are going to help her stay sustainable, stay on the road. And I guess the main thing is just be happy where she's at. Yeah, I think the number one tip you want to have is what is one thing that you're excited to do or see or be in three months? Like what's that one thing? Maybe it's you're looking forward to a trip. Maybe it's you want to fit into a certain piece of clothing. Maybe it's you want to go for a 5K walk. But do you have one thing that you're ultimately looking forward to achieving or doing or seeing in the next few months? So like, not necessarily in the next few months, but I do have a lot of stuff I want to do like that I can't do. Like, so I think I shared with Liam that I had knee replacement. So like, I want to get like back to where I can walk in, you know, like ride a bike and do hiking, which I did before and, you know, ride or stuff like that. So in three months, right, let's set a goal. Let's set the let's say let's say that there's a hike you want to do, right? I want you to write that hike down, take some pictures if you have pictures of it, put it up in your house. Because what happens is if there's not something drawn you to moving forward, it's easy to slip back, right? So then what we can do is when you're on your treadmill or you're on your bike or you're moving your body a little bit at home, we can set a goal that moves you towards that destination. I would put that I would put that picture right up on your on your on your workout machines so that you can see what you're working towards. Same thing with clothing. I like people when they put their clothing on is like put a piece of clothing on there doesn't fit very well. Hang it up in the back of your bathroom door and every two weeks I want you to try it on and you're going to go until it fits. And then when it fits, you go celebrate do something that celebrates yourself moving in the direction of where you're going. And I want to interject like that one of the videos you guys shared in during the challenge, I think it was on the in one of the emails was about the non scale victories. And that's really important to focus on because like I just posted a picture of me like in a shirt like this one size smaller than I was wearing. So those are those non scale victories that you need to focus on. And then yesterday I had to order a I had to order a what do you call it self adjustable belt because I just bought like a whole bunch of jeans and now they don't fit. So I figured I'm just going to like buy a horrible problem. This keto thing can be expensive. You have to buy all new clothes. I would say find a tribe, you know, we're going to help you do that too and find a tribe to do this with others. What I can tell you is having a goal or a vision or a destination, assessing yourself with with a clear mind and clear vision with your clothing and then having a tribe to go do it with will ultimately lead to your greatest successes. And we're here to coach you be the coaches behind the scenes and help you guide you to that journey. But to me those are the secret weapons for the long term success in the next three months as we do that you get 510 people doing this with you. And you're now accountable to them. You're becoming their coach. It brings more power to you to help you stay accountable. I was going to say I have one friend doing it with me now. So like it does really help if you have other people around you that are that can encourage you when you're having those days. And that's the reason I like the Kato for beginners website too because we all kind of like are on there trying to support each other. So you know when you have that bad day, like you can shrug it off a whole lot easier if you have somebody to talk to. And then if you're just kind of talking to yourself and like I said, watch out for that negative self-talk just kind of pull yourself off and tell yourself, no, I'm not going to listen to you. You can be challenging sometimes, right? Like everybody does it. You know, like everybody does it. We're enemies. That's why Dustin and I always like, you know, try and get people on board like programs, coaching programs, free groups, whatever it is. Because you look at a professional athlete, a professional athlete is the best athlete in the world. But they've got coaches and they've got nutritionists and they've got all the team on their side. I can say to anybody out there right now, name a professional athlete that's done it alone. Yeah, there isn't one. There isn't one, right? But you really do have to watch out for the negative self-talk because you can really self-sabotage yourself. I know I've done it, you know, a lot in my lifetime and that's what I was telling you in the beginning. Like you can really self-sabotage yourself and like you lose your momentum and then like you get disgusted and then you just quit. And then 10 years later you find yourself in the same place. So, you know, like learn from my mistakes and don't like self-sabotage yourself. Every day is a new day. Shrug it off and go forward. Dustin sees it all the time, right Dustin? What percentage do you reckon the mindset is? I say it's 70%. I sometimes fight between 60 and 70%, but I think the mindset of it is, because people know what to do, they just, something interferes with it. You can really be your own worst enemy, honestly. Usually that's the case. I've been there, so like I said, my motto is like every day is a new day. So, like I just approach every day as like a new day. Like so yesterday was a bad day. Today is going to be a better day. 100%, one bite at a time, right? One bite at a time. And my only other advice would be to track what you're eating because you really don't realize what you're eating until you become accountable for it. So, I track what I eat and eventually you won't have to do it because you'll be aware. But in the beginning it's really important because you don't realize all the stuff you're sticking in your mouth until you have to write it down. Right. I know when I started fasting longer I realized how much little food I would put in my mouth for my kids. I was like, I didn't realize. I didn't even think about that. You know, there's a lot of these little things that I was doing that I didn't realize I was even doing. Even if it was low carb, I was still doing it not thinking about it. Some things we need to think about too that are like low carb things we're picking up are not necessarily the greatest. Right. Like I know I was chewing a lot of gum and one of the people I was talking to was like, ooh, that's one of the bad ones. Like did you look at the sugar alcohol they're using? So be aware of what you're putting in your mouth that's low carb necessarily isn't, you know, make sure you're reading the labels and are aware. You are an amazing coach. Like we don't need to be on this live. You can do it yourself. I do want to answer one question. It's more fun to work with other people. It's nice to have that community sense and like the people like to help you along the way. Well, I want to just answer one question the lady dropped in there and I thought it was really good question. So I'm going to pop it up here. I might do a live on it a little bit later. She said because you're not hungry, do you need to worry about the calories you take in if you're not getting enough in? And I thought there's a really good question because you want to think about two things. The more that you're restricting your calories, the more that you're fasting, the more important the quality of your food is. Just like the more like, remember back in the day, if you exercise a lot, you thought you could get away with not eating as well. Well, I exercise a lot so I can eat crappy. No, the truth is, if you exercise a lot, your demand for high quality food goes up because you're putting higher stress on your body. So if you're a person right now that's doing some intermittent fasting or doing OMAD or doing one meal a day, I have some different fasting cycles that I like. The quality of your nutrients are really important because you need to still get a very good balanced diet even though you're eating less. Second thing is that I don't encourage people to go low calorie for a long period of time. So I like people to cycle their calories, meaning that once a week, maybe twice a week. At the beginning, you can go a little further with low calorie, but long term you're going to want to cycle your calories, not carbs necessarily calories. So I have a couple of days where you eat more than you would otherwise. And this teaches your body not to slow down your metabolism. What would your recommendations be on calories? What's a good range, I guess? That's a great question. That's going to vary based off of size, activity level, male, female, muscle mass. So you're looking at the average, they say women, 1,500 men at 2,000. I rarely ever find that to be actually that accurate, but just keep that in mind is I would look at it this way. There's a really good calculator out there if you just type in calorie counter and it gives you a pretty good judgment based off your activity levels. But don't ever hold that as true because if you've been on diets your whole life, you may not actually fit the mold. You might have slowed your metabolism down. And what happens when you do that and you start eating their amount of calories, you start gaining weight because your metabolism is slower. So what I always tell people, that's why I like starting out lower and start moving towards fat burning because psychologically, if you don't start losing, you quit and move on. So I'd rather start lower and slowly work your way back up. And then once you find like a maintenance and you're not losing any more body fat, then we kind of know that that's probably a pretty safe place in your metabolism based off your current body type, your activity levels and your muscle mass. Now if you increase your exercise or if you lose a bunch of weight, your calories may have to fluctuate a little bit, right? If you lose 100 pounds and you're the same muscle mass, you're not actually burnt. You're not using as many calories to the day. If you're not, if you're doing the same activity, does that make sense? Because your body does have to carry 100 pounds everywhere. So your calories have to be adjusted off of that. Most likely your calories will actually go down after you lost 100 pounds just naturally because you're carrying less weight. There's a lot of factors in there, so I don't like to overthink that. Typically, if you're following, especially if you're drinking ketones and you're following our plans, you're going to kind of solve the problem in itself because you're not going to be super hungry. When you are hungry, feed the warrior because your body's telling you it needs energy. And if you learn how to listen to that, it gets really good. Even on ketones, there's days that you're going to be more hungry with ketones that tells you your body's looking to be fed, not necessarily binge eat on pizza, but eat higher quality foods at a higher amount. I don't know if you saw that comment down there. Doctors call so, is it? He's done some research of his own on the keto products and I'll say they're really amazing and unique. I must applaud you guys for your work. I wish I had made it. I wish I made those products. I helped launch it. I got that one, but yeah, it's been a great journey and to have bioidentical peer therapy to ketones with the most natural products out there. I mean, I think it's going to be the biggest breakthrough of our, maybe of our lifetime, if not the century. And I hope not, at least to help them all in this space, but right now it's just pretty amazing what it does. I just want to jump in real quick because I've tried a bunch of different keto products. This is the first keto product that actually lives up to what it actually says it's going to do. Like you take the keto pills, they say, oh, you're going to go into ketosis, not. So this is the first product that I've actually taken that actually said it was going to boost my ketones and actually did. So it's pretty amazing, honestly. I think that's amazing. And I think it's a great Z-Gway because we've already been going for 25 minutes. I think what needs to happen, guys, is I want you guys to all jump on board and give Tana a follow. Because the next three months are just going to be amazing for you. I can't wait to work with you along the way. Help you more in your journey and just get after that three month goal of let's get your hiking. Let's get your bike riding. Let's take one bite at a time and then get after those results. And I'm super excited for you, super pumped for you. And grateful to have you on board, Dustin, running tonight's call and just spreading the word. That's what I'm going to do. Thank you all. All right, guys. Get you later. All right.