 very popular song. Morning Sun and Memories. Now it gives me great pleasure to welcome these two gentlemen into the studio. The legendary Shunni Krampsey and Patsy Kavanaugh and these two guys are two of the finest songwriters that we are so lucky to have in not indeed and only our country music scene but in the music scene in Ireland and indeed further afield because their songs have been recorded by everyone from Daniel O'Donnell to Mick Flaven to Mike Denver and you name it these guys songs have been recorded and we're talking about huge hits and I suppose for me on a personal level it gives me great pleasure to welcome the two guys in because I would have grew up listening to some of their songs that they have written down through the years and it's just lovely to have the both of you in studio so you're very welcome Patsy and Shunni. David it's a real honor to be here and thanks for having us. Lovely to be on your show. Well we're delighted to have you both then and you know when you think about the songs that you guys have written down through the years you know you've homed it on EGALL the old schoolyard the hard times lovin' can bring and morning son of memories as we've just heard I wish you well and blooming over my world you know you have a serious serious catalog of songs there and Shunni I guess we will start with you you got an idea then that maybe it might be nice to go out and showcase these songs from a songwriter's perspective. Yeah the students myself and Patsy have been life-long friends and when we keep on touch and when Patsy writes something that got there sometimes we come in and we demo them and stuff like that we've been life-long friends and we have been doing this for a while every now and then we do a concert where it's exclusively songs that we write we do a sort of a two and a half hour show it's a very unique thing where people that come we don't get huge massive crowds but the people that come know exactly what they're coming to hear yeah and they hear the stories behind the songs of why we wrote the songs and you know how they all come but so it's very rewarding and it's something to do from a songwriter's point of view and as well as that we do find that the people who do come really enjoys our shows where we do this and we tell the story about the songs and we do exclusively all songs that we've written you know in a concert where people can sit and listen to the story and the lyrics and stuff. It's a very nice thing to be to be able to do and you know obviously a lot a lot of talent within the two of us to be able to do something like that because not many people can and you know Patti I was thinking about this earlier I was thinking about you know some of the the bands who I would have grew up listening to and started going to the dances to whenever I was younger maybe when I was about 13-14 and the likes of McFlaven for instance and when you tick like say three of his biggest hits Hard Times Love and Can Bring, Home to Donegal and the Old School Yard they've been written by either one of you at some point and you think about the likes of McFlaven and tick those songs away from him at the time that he was starting out maybe he mightn't have had the success that he was lucky enough to have of course he's incredibly talented but without the songs without a doubt but the truth of the matter is that they bring your songs to a much wider audience I think it's important to stress to a day that our shows our concert there's plenty of humor in it as well as the thoughtful songs you know we both would have a fairly what's the right word for it a dry sense of humor as you can see me and Patsy's a laugh a minute well we can be quite the role when we do it you know but it's the song some of our songs might you know they're fairly contemplative for whatever they're basically story songs I suppose so long but we tell plenty of stories as well to lighten the mood so yeah so it's something that is gonna be really really unique and it actually kicks off this Friday war where Patsy and Shinny ticked to the stage in the very famous McGrory's of Kildaf that's this Friday the 25th and then on Sunday on to the Austin Lock Alton and that is the 27th and 8 30 kickoff with only a tenor cover charge so a great night of music in in store for you there but Shinny I always was sort of curious about this and I never got the chance to ask you before of course you're out in the road with the bands the likes of the the Great Brian Call when did you start writing songs was that something that you know the music came first and your love for writing or when did you start writing your own songs well David the funny thing is I was writing songs from a very very age but music when I was starting out and I'm sure lots of people can see you're nearly ashamed to say you know we were going to dances and school wasn't very high on the agenda but we were chatting about who are the best track there would be a Dexter or a Massey or you know all the boys I ran about with and if you start to tell the boys I ran a bit with that you were interested in music they've been quite embarrassing you know the word is sort of but I was writing songs for a good while before I let anybody hear them you know and then I got drunk on a pub one night and I sang a song of four o'clock in the morning as you do and then they were out there that's how I got the songs out there and the first man to put me on the map was Mike Flavin when he recorded on the Traveling Night album hard times and love I can bring you know but it's difficult for anybody that's songwriting it's difficult to get your songs out there it's a lonely for all but you know but you have to keep plodding on and I remember sitting in here in this very studio with Paki Keeney years ago and I was making wee notes to see you know you know when you go on there doing the view yeah and I was writing down and it wrote down about 15 different artists that recorded me songs and you know you don't find it creeping up I'm sure Patsy you find the same you know and Shunny you you you must have been a lot more comfortable doing interviews now because I see no shade of paper sitting there the day with all your notes on it you keep me right but you know Patsy whenever you write a song I guess you look at the likes of Home to Donegal which there's not many people that don't know that song and it's so simplistic in its nature but whenever you were writing that did you ever envisage the heights that it would eventually reach no I did not it's funny Shunny mentioned the Mcflavin album there I think that's for Home to Donegal because it's first airing as well I had it recorded on a cassette myself but I think Mcflavin was the first one to cover it after that I'm sure it just took off yeah and even still I have 93 versions of it that's incredible and you know it's probably been recorded in a few different languages as well is it it's recorded in Danish and it's recorded in Dutch that's recorded in Irish that's amazing instrumental version and you know it just keeps it's great yeah there's open doors for me you know it's funny we were in England at the weekend and it's course it always be done ten times and all the shows Home to Donegal and there was young people who didn't know Patsy Kavanaugh was around they were singing away they didn't know when they were singing about the song and I said was able to tell them that it was written on the 20th of August 1988 there you go Patsy was reading it out there really made me wonder and I said that song was written on the 28th of August 1988 1988 yeah what a song it's been as well and you know the thing about it is there was a song that everybody can identify with you know you know people that are away from home and come on home for holidays you know I think that's the big point in it and and Shunni I suppose a lot of the songs that you guys have written as well have really stood the test of time and of course they're great songs but why do you think all these songs that you guys have written have really you know they're still as popular today you know if you're at a dance in hard times love and can bring comes on you know the floor fills up in morning sun and memories when you're at a concert it's just why do you think that these songs have stood the test of time as well as they have well I think songs you know a song that actually can touch on somebody's feelings or meaning you know what works its way into society sort of thing yeah and I know that morning sun and memories has actually written on two gravestones you know it's it's going to be round there for a while and around blue moons written on a gravestone and things so the the morph the way into society you know and become part of everyday life and it's a great honor for the legs of myself and Patsy you know and by the way I would like just to see when we're on here that congratulates Patsy and Daniel whose Daniel's new album has reached the British charts is number 10 Patsy is it how many years is that my 35 years or something yeah and of course the title track I wish you well is a song that Patsy wrote. It's funny it's something you know from the word go you were mentioned there about when did we start writing at all has it been an ambition to see one of your songs listed in the album and there it is now a title track of an album of probably the biggest star arguably that Ireland has ever produced so that's a great honor Patsy. They nearly left it too lit. Yeah listen lads the two shows are coming up this weekend and you know if you're a fan of music a fan of country music a fan of songs and stories and as Patsy quite rightly mentioned there'd be a lot of humor in there as well it kicks off this Friday night in Margaris of Kildaf and then on Sunday they have to take Saturday off these two men now to recover from. Yeah we'll count the money on Saturday. And you'll still do something else with the other 23 and a half hours. There are also there are more shows coming up just after that and as usual I have forgotten to take the dates with me. I think it's the 11th and the 3rd. December. Are you confident of that? There were in the beehive you'd see where they are. Yeah well one is in the beehive in Ardra and the second is in Fanavolti Hall in Fanad so if you are in those localities you'll be fit to check those dates out but the two dates this weekend are Margaris and Kildaf on Friday night at 30 kickoff and on Sunday. Actually Margaris is at 9 o'clock kickoff. 9 o'clock kickoff. And the Gortha Hark one is at 30 kickoff and they say that you can pay at the door like we put out some tickets for some people want to take us but certainly come along and you can pay at the door and you'll be more than welcome we would love to see.