 Okay. Thank you, Ben. So we've had good success so far, and we can see that we have a lot left to do. So how can we scale our work? How can we move that yellow tipping point line to the left so that it happens sooner and faster? That's where you come in. Represent us works to scale your work with training that shares successful strategies and tactics from the campaigns that have won to date. We can be in the entire movement at American Democracy Summit so that we can learn from each other and be motivated by each other. We also have a dashboard of active reform campaigns on our core issues across the country. You can find this dashboard on our website under how we win. You can check out this dashboard and see how you can be involved. We'll connect you to these campaigns if you live in that state. If you don't live in the state, maybe you can donate or you can volunteer with the Action Brigade and do phone banking and text banking and other actions to help the campaigns. Every little bit of help really matters. Speaking of these campaigns. I am excited to introduce Bo Harmon, who will lead a discussion with a select set of leaders from some of these active campaigns. Bo, take it away. Thank you so much. And it's been, it's so cool as I'm looking through the chat of all of the people who are logged on. I saw Florida, I saw Virginia, Delaware, Kansas, California, Arizona, really all across the country. It's fantastic. And I think that that is so important because one of the things that has been so motivating to me since getting involved with rep us almost three years ago, is that every week I find out about a new organization that has started up at the municipal level, at the state level, or sometimes even at the federal level. That's trying to do good in some way. Some of them we work with veterans and we do this with students and we do this with rural voters and we do this with independence. I don't have a slightly different strategy and a slightly different constituency that they're working with, but all of those people are raising their hand and saying I want to try to make things better in my country. And all of you are doing that by being here tonight. I am thrilled to be joined by four of the best authorities on passing pro voter pro democracy laws in your state that I've come across in all of my work. I'd like to introduce Scott Muller, Andre Bumgardner, Scott Turner and Kelly Potter. And I'm going to ask them to introduce themselves and share a little bit about how they got involved with this work, but I would like to just give them the opportunity to do that. Scott Muller, why don't you start us off in Connecticut. Part of what we're looking at here is each of these states, Connecticut, Utah and Georgia are each trying to pass ranked choice voting laws through their legislature. One, very Democrat state and I say very Democrat, meaning the both chambers of the legislature are Democrat and all statewide offices are Democrat. And two, very Republican states Georgia and Utah, where that same dynamic is true in the reverse, both chambers of the legislature or Republican and all statewide offices are held by Republicans. So, I'm really interested in the compare and the contrast and what sort of problems we are seeing as we try to pass these reforms in red states and in blue states and where we're finding success that we can get that done wherever we happen to be. So with that, I'd like to kick us off and we'll start with our blue staters and Connecticut representative Andre Bumgardner. Could you lead us off and introduce yourself and share a little bit about how you came to some of this work. Absolutely. Well, first and foremost, Bo, thank you so much for having me this evening and a big shout out to my counterpart, Connecticut counterpart Scott Muller, who is also one of my esteemed constituents in the 41st House District. I have the deep honor and privilege of representing the southeastern corner of Connecticut, which encompasses the southern half of Broughton, also known as the submarine capital of the world, as well as mystic and Stonington. I am currently a Democrat. I was elected to my second non consecutive term in the 2022 election cycle, but I was also had the honor of serving in the state legislature and elected back in 2014 at the age of 20. Which made me the youngest state legislator elected in state history. I still have that distinction today. I was actually elected as a Republican. And that's a certainly a story for another day, but I think, you know, it's no doubt that hyper partisanship and politics has always been a huge source of consternation for me. I'm someone who loves working across party lines, someone who believes that it's so important to have a pragmatic approach to policymaking, rolling up your sleeves, solving the difficult challenges confronting our communities. And it is no secret that in the last six to eight years we have seen our state, our whole country become more divided. And so, you know, as I fundamentally believe that ring choice voting can serve as a tool to break that partisan divide and very much look forward to engaging in that discussion of course. And with that, I will pass it on to my dear friend Scott. You might still be muted Scott. Yes, that will help. My name is Scott Mueller retired partner in a large law firm as an international law firm came to all this and been in and out of federal government during my career and law professor as well. I came to all of this really starting the day after Election Day 2016, because I didn't want to spend the rest of the time yelling at my TV which I'd started to do starting in April 2016. I learned about rank choice voting during the course of work that I started doing right after Election Day with a group of others. Some work in rank choice voting had already been done in Connecticut by the time I got involved in the fact I think one of the people on whose shoulders we stand Jonathan Perlow is on this call. There was a group that started all this in 2019 independent of our efforts. I formed Connecticut voters first in 2018 with a former gubernatorial candidate by the name of Oz Gribble. And I've been working really since then, and very actively since we got the support of the governor for rank choice voting in the fall of the 2023 as 2020, 2022, excuse me as he was heading into his election cycle. So I can describe later what we're doing here, but it seems to me as background that that's probably what you need. Fantastic. Thank you guys so much and Connecticut voters first. Scott helps lead is one of the premier grassroots advocacy organizations in the country. Another is Utah rank choice voting which is led by our good friend Kelly Potter. And so Kelly, could you share a little bit about yourself and the work you're doing there. Thanks so much, Bo. It's so fun to be here with all of you and I'm so excited for the work that we're doing here and the opportunity to collaborate with so many more people. So I was a high school government teacher and I got recruited to be the state director of elections in Utah many years ago, and I got to take a deep dive into the world elections and found it to be fascinating. I took a lot of years off to be a stay at home mom and then ran for office in my city and became the mayor. And while I was mayor, I went to a league of cities and towns conference and learned about rank choice voting. And after that they asked me to help with rank choice voting because Utah just had this new pilot program and we had a couple cities that we're going to try this new way of voting. It was so exciting but we want to make sure everyone was educated and the election officials knew what they were doing. And we started with two and then we went to 23 and 12 and so that's why how I got involved and I'm really seeing it make a difference in Utah. That's great and the work you're doing there in Utah is really just tremendous. Our final panelist is one of a good friend of mine, Scott Turner. He is the founder and president of Eternal Vigilance, a non-partisan nonprofit organization in Georgia that is leading the rank choice voting effort there. So Scott, if you could share a little bit about yourself and the work you're doing. Sure, thanks both. Thanks for having me. It's exciting to be here. I was elected to the Georgia House of Representatives in 2013 in a special election that required a runoff. Here in Georgia, we use runoff elections extensively. We're the only state that uses them in both the primary, well, there are other states that do it or have it on the books now, but we're the only ones that have used it in both our primary and general elections. And in a special election, it was during your Christmas time election, it's a great time to run for office, by the way, highly recommend it. Where you have a political mail coming at the same time as your Christmas cards. And the turnout was just absolutely miserable. So we had a five-way race. My vote total in the first round equalled the vote total in the second round. And that was an indicator to me that that's a broken system that needs to be fixed. And now I've been searching for the answer to that and found it in rank choice voting. And that's why I'm here today and trying, there's some specific problems we're trying to fix here in Georgia that rank choice voting really does provide the best possible solution. Thank you. And Scott, while a lot of our listeners are familiar with rank choice voting, could you outline, like using the runoffs in Georgia as an example of how rank choice voting or instant runoff voting, as it's sometimes called, just kind of how that works? Sure. We thought it might not be totally familiar. Yeah, sure. Our runoff system requires that somebody gets 50% plus one of the total votes cast. And if nobody does, the top two candidates move on to a runoff. So we see this oftentimes now in our statewide races where or in a contested primary for a local or state legislative race where we have the spoiler effect, if you will. And there are three major problems our current runoff system creates. The first is that the local governments are required to pay for those additional elections in the form of these runoffs and it costs about $75 million in aggregate. Those are dollars that are in competition with our police budgets, our fire budgets, our filling pothole budgets, right? Those are the local dollars come out. And so our local government is really taxed to the brink here with this huge cost. Now, some people would say cost doesn't matter if you're delivering a majoritarian winner. But the second problem our runoff system creates is a massive drop off and turnout. We've seen 500,000 to 700,000 people not return for the second round. So we really get a plurality result delayed by a full month, and it's costing us $75 million to do so. That's a huge problem. So bad for democracy all around. And the third problem is that the runoff creates a scenario where we have to have these additional months of campaigning. It goes into the holidays. So when America and Georgia are trying to come together around things like the SEC championship football game, we're bombarded with ads in every break about how horrible Raphael Warnock is or how terrible Herschel Walker is. And that's another type of problem that we would be solving if we could move to an instant runoff system. And it's important to know that rank choice voting or instant runoffs is not a massive tweak to what we do in Georgia. Or a massive overhaul. It is just a tweak as opposed to a massive overhaul because we're taking that runoff process, the thought process of if by first candidate doesn't get 50% plus one that in they're out, who's my second choice. That's already something that is familiar to Georgians. So replacing runoffs with an instant runoff makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways. Thank you. That's super helpful. Kelly, help. The other folks on the call understand kind of the political dynamics that you're working with in Utah and, you know, what the path to victory is. What is it? I mean, because God is trying to save money by ending runoffs and having majority winner still. What's what's kind of the focus in Utah and what's the what's the path to victory. Sure, you bet. As you mentioned earlier, we have a, we have a super majority Republican legislature and all statewide offices are Republican. And when we, when the Utah legislature approved this pilot program, the legislature said, Hey, yeah, let's try this out. Let's do it for four municipal election cycles and cities can opt in. And it was for municipalities to buy it if they wanted to. Yeah, just cities could try it. And they had to opt into it. And our biggest year we had 23 cities opt in. And after that, the political dynamics change to where the far right. Some of the election denier people decided they didn't like ranked choice voting. So what's happening now is we have a bill in our legislature to end the pilot program. We should have one more cycle. And of course, we want to extend it as a permanent option for cities. But we have legislators who are trying to stop it at this during the session, which is happening right now. And the challenge that we're finding is that there are legislators who say that people will come to them and say, don't vote for this ranked choice voting is terrible. Why? Well, I don't know ask so and so. So it seems it's just a classic example of this polarization where people have learned that their team doesn't like ranked choice voting. They don't really understand it. They don't really know why, but they have been told to go out and lobby against it. And in the past, it was sort of like people weighing out the pros and the cons. And now we have a whole different political dynamic where we're trying to stop it from being eliminated. And our goal is to do a much better job at the grassroots organizing and get people to tell their legislators why they like it and why they want to keep it going in Utah. Thank you. That's really helpful Scott and Georgia. Are you seeing some of that same pushback from within the Republican Party. Oh, 100%. We're fighting off a ban bill similar to what Colleen has seen there. It's like we have a pretty good handle on that, but anything could change at the moment at any moment. The political realities from the fall of the Alaska result has really changed the dynamic here in Georgia. We took the Utah pilot program and modeled it here. We got two years ago, we had a bill that passed out of committee unanimously, both Republicans and Democrats led the bill was sponsored on a bipartisan basis. And both both parties seemed okay with that Utah model. And it did not pass out of the legislature that year, because we have been the center of the political universe when it comes to election reforms and SB 202 and other things. There was just no real appetite to start tweaking elections the year that we were able to get that passed. Then Alaska happened and instantaneously the mood change. So it went from being very receptive to both parties to being a really a partisan issue. We still have Republican champions here, but they're under extreme pressure from the right to dump the idea all together. And so we're having to do some triage and also support them. We have a couple of really good Republicans who have sponsored a piece of legislation called HB 200 that they've just been absolutely slandered and defamed and they really need our help. And so we're working to try to not only fight back the narrative that we should ban ranked voice voting but also support the people who see the value in it regardless of the political pressure that they're feeling. Thank you. That's really interesting without that pressure from the right and being in a solidly democratic state, Scott Mueller and representative gardener. I'm sure that ranked choice voting must be just sailing through with no no problems at all. Help us understand the dynamics that you're seeing in Connecticut around the bill and what kind of the political landscape looks like there. I wonder what I might start with that and maybe turn this over to you. So it's probably worth starting with what our proposal is, which is actually narrow and intentionally narrow. We are proposing essentially enabling legislation because our statutes are written in such a way that without the enabling legislation there's already a ban. Not because it was intended, but because our statutes require plurality. So we're seeking enabling legislation for primaries and in particular for the presidential primary and options for the parties to use rank choice voting if they wish with one exception. And that is a mandatory ranked choice voting ballot for presidential preference primary. We have a bipartisan bill that's been introduced to do that the support of the governor lieutenant governor and others. Why do we choose that what I'll call narrow enabling path in part because and we now actually have a brand new opinion from our attorney general saying that ranked choice voting for the general for the General Assembly and the state office is unconstitutional it's unfortunate that that opinion came out but it just did. We anticipated that as an issue and tried to navigate around it. The Democrat Party is, you know, done well in this state. And we didn't want to prevent a bill that we thought would be threatening to them. And they're, and they're sort of power here. And we sell and I think have had some success in selling ranked choice voting in primaries as being helpful to parties to get better candidates in the general election and to do better. So, Andre, maybe I'll turn this over to you but that's sort of the path we're proposing and why. Very interesting. How, how is it looking from the inside of the legislature representative. Absolutely well as Scott mentioned, this proposal has to pass the legislature. You know our legislature is heavily Democratic in the house we have 98 Democrats 53 Republicans so nearly two thirds majority and then in that state Senate, 24 Democrats and 12 Republicans and so two thirds majority so, you know, we're near veto a total of proof majority in both chambers and also Democratic governor that has voiced his support for ranked choice voting in the past election cycle. I would note I think Mr. Mueller played a huge role in getting the governor to sign on this proposal in large part because of the party that previously endorsed us. Who was one of the governor's opponents four years earlier, campaigned heavily on this proposal. And the very interesting thing about elections here in Connecticut is that, even though we have pretty much a two party duopoly, you know, Republicans and Democrats, there still is an art. There still are opportunities for minor parties to get on the ballot and so Ospreyville did have a ballot position that ultimately endorsed that the party endorsed the governor's reelection campaign in large part because of his endorsement of ranked choice voting so I'm a good friend of the governor's you know I support a good chunk of his proposals, but rest assured I will be holding his feet to the fire to ensure that we can get this over the finish line especially in the sense that this proposal is a lot more narrow scope, more focused on presidential primaries and municipal elections, actually in our in our communities that I represent and Scott lives in in Stonington. I actually just saw the election of a or the first select man of Stonington was just reelected on the forward party. She previously ran as a Democrat, two election cycles and actually ran on the forward party went in large part to break that and divide. And despite the fact that it was a four way race, she still won the majority votes, but a lot of folks were very concerned about the outcome of the election, you know what would happen if the individual for first did not get 50% of the vote. And I think again, this is where ranked choice voting could very much matter. So I again think this more narrowed proposal, I think in has a lot more. We have a great opportunity to get this over the finish line again with a more narrow bill. I should I should just add that that recently reelected first elected is a huge fan of ranked choice voting and if we get the authority to get municipal elections using ranked choice voting Stonington will be high on the list of the first candidates to do that. Right. What I mean we heard, you know, Kelly and Scott Turner talk about some of the challenges of the shift in the Republican Party or at least some wing of the Republican Party and its orientation towards ranked choice voting. And I'd like to ask you, are there other challenge Scott and Kelly. Are there other challenges that you face kind of besides the party shift. What else are you seeing. And I guess what I'm kind of trying to tease out is what sort of similar or similar barriers exist in red states and in blue states. What are we running into in Georgia and in Utah and in Connecticut regardless of the politics of the state. I could take a shot of that or Kelly and go ahead, whichever you prefer. Let me just do this very quickly, putting aside the party politics and candidly I think our, our proposal will help us get past the party politics to a certain extent. There, look, there is in this state it's new, not that many people understand it and the general reaction to things that people don't understand is I'm not sure I want to do it. We have a hurdle to get over with respect to that in this state. We're surprisingly pretty backwards in terms of electoral law, and then we've just moved to early voting we're about to get no excuse absentee voting. There's a certain amount of fatigue. And only the Democrats have done, you know, been in control for a while. There are many who perceive that things are going well and I must say I think they are going reasonably well. But there's a little bit of a sense that is our is ranked as voting a solution in search of a problem. And I think in in primaries, given how how our primary and candidate selection system works, this will help a lot, but that's at least a part of the problem. So newness reform fatigue in this state. The recent attorney general opinion didn't help obviously. But those are that what I would perceive as them as the major. And they're not partisan. They're just the reality of bringing something to. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Kelly or Scott, do you see those similar sorts of problems? Yeah, I would agree with the newness. I was kind of blaming it on being conservatives and that people don't want to try something new, but sorry, my camera's freezing, but I think that is one of the things I also think in our country right now. People are really easily led to believe that something is bad or someone's trying to trick them or there's some conspiracy. And we had an election in one of our largest cities. And I read through a survey they did and some of the responses were. I, it was a non-partisan municipal election and people would say, I don't like ranked choice voting. We should be able to know their political party. It was almost like they were saying, I don't like ranked choice voting. It rained that day. Like there were things that had nothing to do with ranked choice voting. But because the people who are against ranked choice voting were able to kind of get the message out that it was bad. People just hopped on the bandwagon without even understanding it. And I've had, I've talked to even a legislator recently, very conservative legislator and talking about the polling that we've done and showing that the majority of Utahns really like ranked choice voting, particularly those who have tried it. I don't trust that polling. Like they just dismiss the facts and the data because they think they know because their friend told them. So I think that's a really hard hurdle in our lack of trust culture right now with our political system. And I think I'm sure that's happening everywhere. It's bipartisan. It's absolutely right. The real issue. So I am currently fielding the Q and a section and I just wonder if I could highlight a few of the questions that I will then turn it over you to weave into your next engagement. If that's okay. Of course. Thank you. So, so father Gil here, director of organizing and we see a question about whether there are studies or other information other information available to us that helps us know if ranked choice voting is helping address issues like polarization or increasing engagement from voters or reducing feelings of disenfranchisement. And just to tease in a few more of these questions. Are there any concerns with ranked choice voting and and I want to and how would you describe opponents to our CV. So, with that, I'm going to turn it back to over to you all, but thank you for considering the questions in the Q and a. Okay, that that is really interesting. Scott Mueller and representative bone gardener. What sort of objections are you hearing kind of on the policy side. Andre. What I failed to mention is that in Connecticut before anything hits the House floor or the Senate floor for a vote. It has to make its way through one of the legislative committee so in this case, any election reform bill has to go through the government administration and elections, which is actually a bicameral committee so it is co chaired by a House and Senate member. There are many members from each each chamber as well. And in most cases a good chunk of bills do pass on a bipartisan basis, which is, which is great. However, when it comes to election reform measures that you, as you can imagine, like many other states at this time, very few bills do pass on a bipartisan basis. What's unique about our proposal is that it does have bipartisan consensus for. So it is that that is important to know, however, still need to work some of our GA co chairs on the issue. And so that is a conversation that all of us will be engaging in in the next few weeks today actually we commence the beginning of our legislative session our first day of the short legislative session course. It's been a very long day. But nonetheless, it is so important that we continue to articulate reasons for, you know, passing a more narrow bill for with with respect to rank choice voting in the weeks to come. Well, let me use that as an opportunity to ask how represent us as an organization as a as a outreach mechanism, all of the people on this call. How what would be some tangible ways that they can support the effort in Connecticut or Georgia or Utah specifically. What would what is most helpful, say somebody is in state, and there's somebody else from out of state so for in state people what would be the most helpful ways that they could get involved to help make sure that this passes. Absolutely, I'll answer this briefly and then pass it on to Scott, you know, we heard some of the, the poll earlier, you know, asking questions, you know, what is your biggest priority whether it's into corruption and gerrymandering ability to national movement, or CV, etc. But really, you know, I think it's so important to bring people together. And how do we do that, you know, but with the pursuit of it, you know, more just and an equitable democracy that promotes fairness, transparency, you know, government and representation and core values that for all of us. And so I think it's really, really important that you engage your legislators, you engage your senators I hope I'm looking on the call we have hundreds of people on the zoom right now. I hope each and every one of you can name your who your state senator is and who your state representative is, and then within the next 48 hours, you write your representative or your senator about the power and importance of rank choice vote, and how that reform measure can, you know, pay dividends for protecting our democracy in the long run. I would note, as I mentioned earlier, Scott is one of my constituents. RCB, quite frankly, probably would not have been on my radar screen, had it not been for the robust conversations I've had with Scott over the last couple years on this policy proposal. So I cannot overstate the importance of engaging your legislators, especially when they are in the legislative session and actually being well versed on the proposals are for those legislators being specific. And so with that, I'll pass it on to Scott. I think I can do this relatively succinctly let me try. So in Connecticut, get to our website. Sign up we have a whole mechanism for getting to legislators one by one. We are targeting specific legislators so in particular locations sort of getting people to both right to their legislators and candidly pass the word is critically important. Number one, number two, it's actually interesting you have on this call a number of people who are obviously interested enough in this general subject of how do I improve my democracy to be on here. But who themselves don't really understand the ins and outs of rank choice voting, not a surprise. Most people are like that. So general education of what it is and the simple arguments that we know all those of us who spend a lot of time doing it know how to rehearse. We need to get them out there. And in there, at least in this case, in this state in sort of a targeted way. And the last and probably the most important, the disinformation that Colleen put it of the opposition. It's very easy to deal with if we just have someone who will listen to it. So in this state, you know, rehearsing the two or three arguments that are made against it, which are easily rebutted with actual facts is something we could use some help with getting people to listen to facts these days as hard. But that's all we can do. Engage your legislature and educate yourself and educate your, your community about it. I love it. It's got Turner about in Georgia, if people want to help support the cause, what, what would be the way to do that? Yeah, so we, we are leading a coalition of groups that are interested in this issue. And I'd point you first to Better Ballot, Georgia, which is the grassroots advocacy group that we are are loosely affiliated with. We don't have a formal arrangement, but we do cheer them on in their grassroots activism. If you're here, you can learn more about them at betterballotgeorgia.org. And then of course, we're at eternalvigilance.us. And obviously, we echo the same things as Representative Bumgardner and Mr. Muller just said about getting in contact with your legislators. And we'd be happy to assist with that. Either group, if you go and sign up with either of us, we'll be able to help. Elaine, I would, one thing that I know that you have talked about is trying to get people to engage, not just with their legislature, but also with the, with, in Utah, with the state party, and with their local, with their local party. If they're Republican and in a state that is so heavily Republican, you know, a supermajority legislature, as you said, that that was a really interesting approach that I would not have thought of necessarily. Tell me a little bit more about that. Yeah, it is ironic that it was the Republican Party that brought ranked choice voting to Utah. And as a delegate, I know all the delegates loved it. We cut our conventions down from 10 hours to three hours and everyone was loving it. Then all of a sudden, the narrative changed. And so that's why it's important because if the parties keep using it and people are familiar with it and they're not afraid of it, then we can continue this program. And I feel like the people who are against it, they're using fear. Oh, it's a democratic takeover and we're, you know, look what happened in Alaska and self interest where they know if they're even on the far wing of the Republican Party and they represent a small minority that will not get people elected. Those are their motivating factors and they're very, they're very organized and they're very loud and people that like bring choice voting tend to use data and reason and explanations and it's just harder to get through the legislators. So briefly, House Bill 290 for those of you who are in Utah, it's in the government operations committee. Feel free to reach out to any of those legislators or feel free to get on to our website, utahrcv.com get on to our newsletter. There will be times when we're probably going to do some phone banking, but right now we're waiting for this bill to get on an agenda. Hopefully, hoping that it doesn't. We had a circus last year and we don't want to repeat it, but it looks like it might show up again. So that's what we're doing in Utah. And thank you so much for the opportunity to be here. Thank you. As we would love to continue this for another hour, but I know that we need to be respectful of everyone's time. I know. Scott and representative of Baumgartner have had a long day with their first day in the legislature. So thank you both so much for taking time on such a busy day to spend with us. Scott Turner is also in the end killing both. I know we're in the middle of legislative sessions in their states fighting these battles. And so very grateful to each of you for taking your time to walk us through the politics and what's similar. And what's different between trying to pass our CV in the legislature in a red state versus the blue state and what we can do to get people involved in their own state. So thank you all very much and I'll turn it back over to John DeVan to close this out. Thank you, Bo. And John, as you come on. Do you mind addressing one last question in the Q&A before you close this out. And I would. Absolutely. Thank you. And so the question is, how can we as taxpayers hold our elected officials accountable, even when we struggle to make appointments with them or get to see them in person. Yeah, interesting question. Of course, the main way is to be active and participate if you don't like what they're doing, voting them out. Then there are oftentimes this is my point about building the movement. You know, we try to organize a lot of groups. The panelists were just talking about and you saw the importance that there are local groups that know the layout of the local area. And know what the important touch points are and the timing is and all that kind of stuff, things that the national group can't do. We can support them by bringing people to participate. So, I would say join one of these local groups. You can, you can also, if you, if you sign up with represent us, I'll get that to a minute in a minute, you'll, you'll be able to be connected to campaigns across the country really easily. So, you know, that's the most important thing in democracy is to be active and join with others that think like you in a group that can apply more resources and have a louder voice collectively. I hope that answered your question. Thank you very much everybody that was a, I think that was a fantastic, fantastic panel. Thank you Scott Andre Scott and Colleen and bow. It's really motivating to me to hear from these local leaders. It's really important that all of you were here to listen to them and hear them and I hope that you were as motivated after hearing them speak as I was. So now we get to the part about, well, what can you do to help? And the first, the first thing in our list of a few different ways is to join the action brigade. This is our team of volunteers that give air cover and support to city and state campaigns across the country. Sign up and you can make phone calls. You can text bank, send letters to the editor. You know, sometimes you text bank to get people to call their legislature to refer back to the panel, whatever the campaigns need. We endeavor to bring volunteers from across the country to help support these campaigns. When you sign up, if you're in a state with an active campaign, we can connect you directly to that campaign. If you're not in the state. You can do all these other activities. Ben, you met earlier runs this program and he makes it really fun and easy to participate. 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And of course, you don't have to pick just 1. You can actually do all 3, which is a lot of fun. You get to meet people that are like minded and make an impact and really make a difference. So thank you all very much for attending today. I hope you found it as valuable as I did and as energizing as I did. The opportunity to hear from these amazing people who are leading the front lines in these local campaigns is, is a fantastic thing. And I love it. I love hearing what's going on. Thinking back to the strategy that I outlined earlier. We know how to win back our democracy. Please get involved today. And help us build the movement that will save American democracy. Thank you all very much and have a great evening.