 Hey everybody, welcome to the Zelda Informer Podcast, my name is Adam, thank you so much for joining us this week. That opening was brought to us by Brandon and Company, who usually provides our opening theme song and this Closet Week's closing theme is The Hero of Time Remix by Gish. Thank you so much to everyone who emailed your fan topics and theme song submissions and everything else of that nature. If you have any of your own ideas or any of your own topics or anything else you want to share with us at the team, please send us to zeldinformerpodcast.com once again at zeldinformerpodcast.com. But first, here's the most interesting news from this past week. This week reports of a possible strike by voice actors made headlines, Persona 5 and Star Fox saw delays, and my own lack of interest reached a new low today when the Angry Birds Movie Trail was released and I've already forgotten what I was talking about. Once again, my name is Adam, thank you so much for joining us, this week I am happily joined by... Hey guys, it's your coolest recognizable guy from the podcast, Chris, who is actually recognized from the podcast this week by a friend of mine who didn't know I did it. So that's kind of cool. Oh god, I'm stuck in this box, someone helped me get out of this tiny little box, Adam is keeping me stuck in the box in the basement, oh jesus. You keep quiet in there, Colin. Why are there so many spiders, I don't get it. Adam hit the box with a stick. You have to hit the spiders from behind, you have to wait until they turn around and get them. Why? Why do they have to turn around? This is so counter-intuitive, it's like playing a PS4 exclusive, oh jesus. Hey, we like PS4. Oh, oh yeah, I forgot, we can't talk ill of Sony systems or elsewhere. Oh man. I like PS4. We get the sack. Last but not least, we're joined by... Hey, what's going on guys? It's Josh Thomas here from the BitBlock and I am really excited to be chatting with you boys today, let's get this going. Yay! I have air horns. I would be more excited if Chris wasn't here. Oh. Yeah, go to hell! I mean, there's an equal other place I could go to, but it's not hell. Hell, I was going to suggest the same thing. But yeah, what have you guys been playing this past week? I turned back on Metal Gear Solid and I enjoyed it. I also went back and played Ground Zeroes because I didn't enjoy that as much. I went and turned on my Nintendo system, played a round of Splatoon and that was cool. You know guys, stay fresh. You know? It's just good life. Thank you, Jared. Oh God, don't call me Jared, what the hell? I couldn't play much since I've been on the road the last two weeks. Like the novel? No, like the Willie Nelson song. Oh, okay. But yeah. There is a difference. What? There is a difference. I've been at two different cons. So for the most part, I've just been on my 3DS playing the Ace Attorney trilogy. Very cool. And I love the Ace Attorney games so God damn much. It's hard not to love those games about lawyers and their melodramatic sort of actions and their cool hair. Yeah, it's so well written. I mean, some of the early ones have some weird translation issues. Yeah. That's pretty much it. So I guess I'll go next. I actually have not played a lot, but I did. I am actually really proud to say that I recently picked back up some GoldenEye 007 action on the Wii. Oh, that's awesome. I've been playing that with a friend who just recently picked up his own copy off of eBay. Did you like not tell him about the whole odd job thing? You mean we're like, oh no, trust me, he knows everything like we've played it locally a lot. Okay. So the online servers for that are still actually up because it does not run on Nintendo Wi-Fi connection. Really? Yeah, so it's definitely. The GoldenEye remake. You know a surprise to hear, Colin, you were talking about this a few weeks ago, how if you play Quake 3 on Dreamcast or on any other system that has the online capabilities still, you can play with people online right now. Yeah, you can still hook it up through Modem and you can still play Quake 3. That is so cool in my opinion. How many, what are the odds of somebody also playing Quake 3 in 2015 at the same time? Surprisingly, there's a whole community around this. Seriously? Yeah. Is there really? That's like. Because the Dreamcast had the keyboard and mouse attachment and you can hook it into your computer monitor through VGA. So it's basically a tiny computer. It's so good. I love it so much. Yeah. So yeah, I mean that's basically all I've played with. As I was saying earlier, the GoldenEye remake is or at least the reboot, reimagining, reinterpretation, resurrection. Yeah. We get it. That was the. It's really good. It is. Yeah. I love it. It's a shame that 007 Legends ended up being probably one of the worst 007 games ever made. So you know, it's funny because I remember when that came out, I didn't get a chance to play it because I didn't have a 360 or PlayStation 3. So I was a little sad that I couldn't play it. And I curd based on what everybody who's played it said, it's actually pretty terrible. I got excited because I loved the remake so much. Yeah. It's the same team. GoldenEye and they put it on PC and I was like, holy s**t, finally a Bond game on PC and it got some bad reviews and I was like, you know, even the most mediocre of Bond games are still pretty fun, like Quantum of Solace is great. Quantum of Solace is my favorite and not my favorite, you know, James Bond game or 007 game, but it is one of my favorite movie games. Yeah. No, it's it's well made. Even bad Bond games are still good, but 007 Legends is like a whole new level of all. That's great. I have never played a James Bond game or a 007 game at all. 90 or 90 for the Nintendo 64. I didn't own an N64 growing up. Play here. The two games you need to play. You need to play. Oh, no, three. Night Fire from Russia with Love and GoldenEye Reloaded. All right. Night Fire is definitely great. I think that's my favorite game. Yeah, Night Fire is probably the best one out of all of them. Did you did you guys ever play Bloodstone? That was the one that came out like in between the movies of Quantum of Solace and Skyfall. Yeah, I have it on the PS3. It's it's OK. It that's what I heard is because it wasn't based. They didn't make any movie or anything like that. It was just really OK. They and they still use Daniel Craig's likeness, which I thought was funny. Unless he mo-capped it or something. Yeah, no, it was kind of a picture of the two. It was interesting. But anyways, did you want to tell us your story? I remember you had a story that you wanted to tell me earlier and I stopped you. I well, I mean, I sort of did it in the intro. But yeah, I actually so today I was at my I was at my job. That wretched thing. And you love your job. Don't say bad things about it. No, I mean, if I could do other things full time, that would be great. All right. So I have a co-worker that I've known like pretty much all my life. Him and I have been friends since we were like little kids in elementary school. We kind of just went to the same school and, you know, started working together later on in life. And the other day, I mean, he's always known I've done internet stuff. But like the other day today, actually, he came up to me and said, Hey, man, I was I was googling some stuff about like Zelda. And then I googled Zelda podcast and I clicked on the very first link on Google, which was this place called Zeldin former. And I just realized that's you. I'm hearing on the podcast. I was like, wait, you didn't know I did that? He's just like, no, man, like that's awesome. And I thought I was like, oh, my God, my friend googled my own work without even like knowing it was actually me. That's great. Or having me tell him. Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm glad he enjoyed that. So it was I forget which episode it was about. It was one of the more recent ones. It was maybe like two or three episodes together or something like that. I'm not sure. Yeah, that was my that was my little story. That was my irrelevant story for the night. Well, I liked it. It's always it's always cool. So like, you know, when people that you randomly stumble upon the stuff you do. Yeah, especially since there's no face attached to it, it's like, this is all audible, you know? This is like people don't see me when we say the things with their voices. You know what I'm saying? Josh, how has that ever happened to you? I've actually had people come up to me in public and recognize me from the bit block, which is really strange and flattering. What do you tell them? Like they come to you like, oh, my God, you're Josh from bit block. You tell them the universe is a hologram and then you walk away waving your arms. Well, it was like, can I get a photo? Can I get an autograph? Can you sign my baby? Like what is I've I've signed a few babies. She's shaking a few hands. But ma'am, you don't have a baby. Give me a few months. Yeah, the lady, a woman actually went out and got pregnant to have a baby so I could sign it. It's really that sounds awesome. Yeah, it's very it's very nice for actually. It is. Yeah. I actually didn't say what I was playing this week. Yeah, you get you guys in mind. You've been playing Hello Kitty Roller Derby for the GameCube and you just didn't want to admit it. Josh, I told you don't tell anyone. Yeah, I thought you could just skip that, huh? Josh, you're telling everyone my secrets. I mean, Adam, you don't you could just you could just tell us right now. It's fine. We're not. I really like Hello Kitty. OK, I'm just really excited. No, my mother loves Hello Kitty. Really? Yeah, she does. That's like the one Japanese thing. I mean, I'm sure she likes the culture, but not like the culture that we know, but the one thing that she loves about Japanese cultures, Hello Kitty. Yeah, she's. Coincidentally, so that's Avril Lavigne's favorite. Oh, yeah, I love that video. Do you really? Yep, it's it's perfect. It's perfect in every offensive possible way. It makes me laugh. Kawaii. But this weekend, I actually went to a Project M tournament for the first time. Oh, and how is that? Long time. I did not win a single match. I mean, a single set. I won. I won some matches. I didn't win like a full game. Well, you know, Adam, you kind of suck at Smash Brothers. Sir, I will have you know that that is entirely true, but I will argue it vehemently. Well, listen, I'm going to I'm going to surprise you guys even more here. I actually play. You ready for this? I mean, if you're going to tournaments with Project M, that's going to blow your mind. Well, I'm a firm believer that the only true way to play Smash Brothers is with items on, on very high, any stage, any characters. So you start getting worse. Josh, I'm looking at these pictures that you sent me of you and your Zero Suit Samus cosplay and I just feel betrayed. I'm sorry, I saw on the Lord himself. The Lord is an item player. So there you go. And in the year 126 of our of Nintendo, our Lord Sakurai Dotsay. Yep. Let there be items. Yeah. It said, I bet you also want Ridley in the game. Uh, I take Ridley over some of the others, I think, but I'm not actively who would you take Ridley over? Like name the first character you take Ridley, are you ready for this? You guys are you guys are going to regret having me on. I would take Ridley over Shulk. Any day. All right, someone get this guy out of here. So wheel him out. What other ones? Let me let me hear him right now. I mean, Shulk, I mean, Shulk isn't bad. I just like Shulk, because he's the first from Xenoblade. He's the only from Xenoblade. The first of many, many, one other character. Who's the the the female version of Marth? What's her name, Lucina? Lucina, Lucina. I think she I'd want her in there or out of there. To be honest, I don't even want Ike in the game. I just want Marth. All right. That's your top five. Top five. Favorite characters, top five characters you don't want to see. You didn't want to see. You had to get all the rage out. We're just going to like paint you as a very angry person this week. The comments on this podcast are going to be never have this guy on again. Why did you bring a mean person for a bit block? I didn't know Big Plot was so angry. Well, they know that I think a lot of people know my stance on the Smash roster. I don't know. So it sounds like something to me and the stance. OK, well, I'm seeing you guys know, like I'm the item wacky Nintendo kind of a guy. So I want like I'm more leaning towards like duck on dog is crazy. Awesome to me. I can't yell at you then. God damn it. You like I love those wacky crazy characters. So like the fact that there is I think five fire emblem characters, that's kind of as far as I'm concerned. Are you picking up the retro three pack? Yes, that I know I am. That yeah, that looks amazing. When does that when does that come out? Two days from now. Oh, my God. Wow. I really have not been paying enough attention to 25th, I think. All right. Let me check my GameStop app because, you know, I'm a real gamer. Power to the players. But not all right. So so top five new characters you just don't want in the game that are in right now. Who are they? You're going to get me in so much trouble. If that's not on your list. Dark Pit is on the list. Yes, Dark Pit's on that. OK, good. Good. I agree. Because he is. Shulk can go. OK. I'm going to get a lot of credit for Shulk. I mean, if you love Shulk, I listen. So you've already gotten rid of two of the pretty boys. Two of the cuties that I like. I admire that Shulk runs around his underwear. I'll give him credit for that. Oh, it's it's fabulous. Um, like I said, female Marth, Lucina. So mean. I think there's I think that's kind of there's maybe not five that I'm like actively against. You just just think of it. OK, well, I'm just throwing two. Just think of the ones that I'll get you in the most trouble with the fire and throw out every one of the fire emblem characters. You cannot throw more than Roy. Just keep them, please. We'll keep Roy. You know what? Just make it Mario and Rio. That's it. Everyone else is gone. I all cast. I've always hated. I've always hated it because I felt like ever since since we're all like they tried to replace Roy. I'm like, how do you replace Roy? He was such a great character. He was completely cloned. But I just like no, he wasn't a clone. He has a lot of different moves. Well, he was like mechanics. Now, actually, even even in melee, he was he was balanced very differently. His entire like sword styles is played differently. You can't really play Roy like you do, Marth. Roy's got the best. Roy has the best crowd chant, though. Roy's our boy. Come on, you can't you can't beat that. No other characters got that. I mean, I think spotless. I think I can only think of three that would really want removed from all right. Let's hear a smash for. And that is Dr. Mario. OK. Yes. Dark Pit. And Greninja. I would not be upset about any of those gone. Those are the only three that are just I honestly feel like are kind of a waste. But I mean, the rest, I think are OK. I think anyone who complains about Pac-Man is needs to just get the Pac-Man's awesome. Oh, Pac-Man's awesome. Yeah, I love Pac-Man. Pac-Man's the best. And of course, Pac-Man was in that game. It wouldn't be as raw as they added Pac-Man. I love that they added we fit trainer. I love that they added Duck Hunt Dog. If anyone, if anyone who's ever listened to the first episode of the Zelda Informer podcast and then somehow still listening knows how much I love Duck Hunt Dog. I think Duck Hunt was good. It was and even if it was just like a gimmick. I just feel like we need more gimmicks. But we are I mean, it's a creative play style. It's a totally different kind of character. They really did try and like express creativity with it. I think Duck Hunt is a fabulous addition. I thought he I love playing as him. Not to re-hash what I said four weeks ago, but I would love to see Phoenix Wright in Smash. Oh, yeah. Dude, I want I'm not going to. I want Professor Layton over finish right since the since the deadline for the the Smash battle is coming up, Josh, I think this is a perfect time to ask, you know, what characters would you want to see in Smash Brothers added? And who do you think is likely to get added? If you can give me like top three or top like top one. I can give you I can give you top four. Really? I really would like to see not to know how likely these are. But number one, I've been a huge fan of the WarioWare series because it is so absolutely insane. I really want to represent it in from WarioWare and I can think of nobody better than nine volt because he's obsessed with Nintendo history. So what better game to put him in than Smash Brothers? So that's all right, well, especially this one that is so retro dedicated. Yeah, and he's just a really cool looking character, I think. And since he's obsessed with Nintendo, we could use like peripherals as part of his, you know, combat. So much WarioWare as a kid. And I mean, doesn't Duck Hunt use like the the gun? The does he use that or was that just in the animation? I thought it was in this final smash or something like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the zapper. The zapper. I don't think he physically shows the zapper, but you go into like that Hogan's alley sort of cut. Yeah. I also want to see Professor Layton. As you guys have said, yes, that would be we've talked about that. We talked about that in detail. Paper Mario, I know some people might not want that, but I would love to see you want to go to Mario Mario, but you don't want to take up another Mario. Well, I think he could be like Game and Watch, which would be really cool. I'd want to see Paper Mario is an amazing series. It's literally like the only time I've genuinely adored an RPG. So personally, I want to see Paper Mario RPG guy. If it's got Paper Mario in it, I am. Well, no, we're going to get along famously, I said, sarcastically. Like, actually, I can't even really get through the Mario and Luigi games. So that'll give you an idea. Really? Yeah, there's I think those are great. Very different from Paper Mario. I just they're too like long and drawn out. I mean, they're they're definitely an expansion on the Mario RPG, like the first one for the N64, I think. No, that's wrong. I think it's I could be. I'm not even going to remember right. But yeah, the first Mario RPG is the same kind of style with the blocks and, you know, timed button mechanics and that sort of thing. Uh, I don't know. I think it's I think it's a great game. It's the newest one, Dream Team. Yeah, it was a little bit too handholdy. That one, that one was really painful for me to play through because it like the tutorials were ridiculous. Rad and Paper Mario on 3DS are really big. See, I would prefer Sticker Star over Dream Team any day. I don't know. Sticker Star is great. That I'm one of the island. Yoshi's New Island was kind of like I didn't think Yoshi's New Island was offensive, but it was OK. It's kind of a realization I had the other day. There's a lot of 3DS sequels to previous games and the 3DS versions are not very good. Luigi's Mansion is another one that got a sequel to a game. Yeah, but that one's good. That's like one of the lone exceptions. But do you think it's as good as the original? Like not not as much, but it has more content. But this more content mean better game. I think that's a perfect example of who? No, sometimes better. More content means too much game, too complicated. I don't know. I think it was cool. I mean, it's not like the original Luigi's Mansion was a masterpiece. Anyway, oh, I listen to them. Oh, I mean, I'm getting ready to play that game soon. I said it a while ago, but I didn't really like New Super Mario Brothers, too. The the new one, you mean as well or number two? No, the number two. Oh, well, who did like that game? Exactly. I think I think Mario Maker was definitely like a nail in the coffin that they're like, we're not going to do that kind of game anymore because we know nobody's going to care for it. But New Super Mario Brothers, you were so good. Are you being serious? It was really good. And it spawned Toad's treasure. No, that was 3D World, 3D World. Oh, my bad, my bad. That was 3D World and also Zelda. Oh, yeah, that's true. It was originally a Zelda game. That would have been really cool to get some DLC where it's like Captain Toad dresses up like Link and goes through Little Zelda Dungeons. I love treasure chests. Or how about they actually put Link in the game, you know? You can do that, yeah. Maybe. We never finished your list. Oh, so the fourth one would be you guys are going to either hate me or agree with this for the craziness. Wait, wait, you only said Paper Mario. You know, I said Paper Mario, Professor Leighton. Are you talking about the Smash game, just as I said? I am sorry, yeah. No, yeah, no, I was thinking. Yeah, Nine Vault, Professor Leighton, Paper Mario and Captain Rainbow. Yeah, Captain Rainbow. That game is I'm one of the biggest fans of that game. Like I know that it didn't come out, you know, outside of Japan, but it is like true amazing skip work where it's just got so many crazy characters. It's kind of a little bit like Zelda in a way where you level up and you explore new areas and not level up, but you get like new items and powers and it's just so cool. And I think Captain Rainbow is a character would be really fun and Smash Brothers. He could have so many interesting moves and stuff. I really want him. I don't think it'll ever happen. That will never happen. But when I look at him and I mean, it's aesthetically pleasing. Yeah, it could be good. I am unfamiliar with the game, honestly. That's really disappointing. Now I want you to hang up the Skype call and I'm going to come into your this podcast. Oh, no. Now I do first. Hi, I'm Colin. Oh, no, all right, all right, let's stop it. I feel like the captain who woke up in the middle of the night and like everyone is planning a mutiny, but there's like eight mutinies going on at the same time, so now the mutinies are fighting over it. And I just go back into my cab and I just go to sleep. Yeah, I'm like, if anyone's taking over this podcast, it's me. This is going to become the Kristen former podcast. I'm going to form you guys about my life. I woke up this morning. I had some toast. I went to work on the toast. I'll just break off and make my own. Sir, I'm a cream cheese fan and I will defend it vehemently. You get cream cheese on bagels, Adam. I didn't say you put cream cheese on toast. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah, I like I put cream cheese on every toasted bread that I eat in the morning for breakfast. So Adam, there's a reason for that. What is it? Does it have to do with my heritage? Oh, that's just a joke. Come on, go for it. You're saying, oh, happy Yom Kippur. Thank you. You're welcome. I think it's time to move on to a new topic. Yeah, you cut that out of that. That's you know me, Adam. These people don't know me. I know I have something I want to get you guys. Go for it. Let's talk about video game delays. Let's talk about video delays. Recently, Star Fox Zero, which was a game for the Wii U was which was a game can confirm it has been delayed to next year. And so now numerous websites. This is not like a general opinion by most people, but I've definitely seen a few websites report on this. How the Wii U is now doomed because it doesn't have a big game this holiday. I mean, they're not wrong. But like. The Wii U is no concern. Yes, there's definite concern. They're not going to make enough money this holiday season to get things. I mean, it's not like anyone was going to really buy a Wii U at this point, and I really don't think a Star Fox game was. No, no, it's not about. It's I think 2014 buying the Wii U. It's about people buying games for the Wii U because they buy one game for the Wii U. They're likely to buy several. I mean, I feel like especially in the holidays, 2014 is probably the year that Nintendo had the most Wii U sales just because of Mario Kart 8 and Smash Brothers like that. That is literally the reason why I got a Wii U. I got it. I'm sure there's like a small percentage of Star Fox fans that would go out and buy a Wii U just to play the new Star Fox Zero. And I think they'd enjoy it. I think they really would. I think I enjoyed it. I did. I loved it. This just might be my opinion. I think, first off, there's enough games that have come out this year for the Wii U alone that I'm sure not everyone likes the tune. And there's still a few that are coming out the rest of the year like Fatal Frame and Mario Maker just came out. So I'm there's enough niche going around that it's. Yeah, and I doubt every single person who owns a Wii U bought every single game that came out in the last two years of the system. I'm sure. Yeah, definitely. I have a fan or Hyrule Warriors now that they're cheaper. Actually, here's a question for you. Now that you just mentioned Hyrule Warriors, you know, Hyrule Warriors Legends is being released on the 3DS. It's pretty much I don't want to say it's not a port, but it's just a 3DS version of the game. Do you think that Nintendo might start going on the route where they're going to make 3DS versions for a lot of their console? I think that'd be interesting, but I don't. We have 3DS Smash Brothers. I mean, Mario Kart 7 isn't the same as Mario Kart 8. It's it's an add and investment and they could be spending that making other kinds of games and I don't think Nintendo is really interested in doing that. I think with the Hyrule Warriors Legends, it makes sense because they're adding a bunch of content and they thought, you know, instead of making the entire deal, I mean, when it's not a big factor, I don't think split. So it would work at the 3DS itself, at least technically. No, I mean, the reason why I bring this up is because, you know, they're not they're not cancelling a lot of games for the Wii U, but like everything's being put on hold for the Wii U while the 3DS is still thriving. You know, 3DS is the best selling handheld console. I want to say like, well, because it's the only pretty much. Sorry, PS Vita, like I want to buy you, but I just need a reason. I need a reason. But that's why I'm thinking like, all right, they can support this handheld for like at least a few more years now that they have the new 3DS out, you know what I'm saying? Mm hmm. So I mean, it's just interesting to think that that could be an option. I mean, I mean, I know for myself, there's enough games coming out solid season for the Wii U that I'm interested in. Fatal frame, Xenoblade, and hell, even. Oh, it's it's Xenoblade X comes out, right? Hell, even even with its bad reception, I'm still hyped as hell for Devil's Third. It it I forget, there was a there was a reason why it got bad reception. Uh, there was like a specific reason why it was more in a subjective it has to be because I mean, it had a really good reception in Japan and in Europe. It like, right, that was what I mean. I remember we had a few conversations before. It looks ludicrous enough that I feel like it'd be a great ride just for how crazy it is alone. Probably like a deadly premonition. So I. Okay. Um, do you guys want to switch subjects? Get in one of our fan topics? Sure. Yes. All right. So James asks, what is your favorite type of gum? How does that? Anything with spearmen. I'm sure you go. Um, actually is nice. And I like their advertisement because it's wacky and funny. I personally like winter mint or winter fresh blue one. I don't like, you know, I don't like the green one restaurant in New York City. And they had a mint lemonade drink and it was like a drinking winter fresh. It was really weird. Oh yeah. In Israel, whenever I visit, they always put like a mint in every beverage and I hate it because I don't like mint. I love mint. You don't like mint ice cream. Then mint ice cream is different. That's ice cream. Do you like thin mints? They're okay. I mean, you're not American if you don't like thin mints. I like other Girl Scout cookies, sir. What are you like? What are those called? Lemon somethings, lemon surprise. Mint is weird when it's like lukewarm. Yeah. Yeah. Josh, what about you? What's your favorite gum? You said your favorite drum was blue. Yes. That's not a type of gum. That's a color. Well, okay. So a lot of spearmen is what you're saying or it's winter mint. Winter fresh. God damn it. I just said it. I'm sorry. I actually don't really often chew gum as boring as I'm going to be here, but one time. You take care of your teeth. Oh my God. I do. I'm pretty obsessed with that, but I did once try this gum that was banana flavored and it was amazing and I've never seen it since. I think it was just too good. They couldn't sell it anymore. Banana flavored gum. It was the greatest. I just want to say I hate watermelon flavored gum. Why? What's your beef against watermelon flavored gum? I like watermelons. I don't like it beating down to a pulp to get into a gum stick. You know what I'm saying? You know it's not really a watermelon. I know. They don't take a watermelon and squeeze it into a stick. It's just like the powder from concentrate crap. I don't care what it is. It's just as nasty to me. You know what's my least favorite flavor of gum is citrus. I hate citrus gums. I mean after a while it just gets messy in your mouth. That sounds... You can cut that out. Sticky. We're talking about gum here, right? Right. What's the topic? I understand why he asked us this now. Thank you, James, for sending in your topic. If you guys have any of your own, please send them to us at Zeldinformerpodcast at gmail.com. What if people just start like... Zeldinformerpodcast at gmail.com. Which sock is your favorite? The left or the right one? These people got to ask good questions. It's a decent question. It helps you to know someone. Now know that I shouldn't buy Josh an entire pack of gum for Christmas this year. Throw it right back in your face and I'm going to say get me a toothbrush instead. Yeah, or Hanukkah. There you go. Yeah. Do you guys want to get into another fan topic? Another fan topic that's less about gum and more about something. Yeah, actually it is more about Zeldin. James also asked us, in all that brawl between all the psychic characters in the old series, which one would come out on top? Sidekick characters being Navi, Tatl, King of Red Lions, Etsy, Oh my God. Eslo, Midna, Linebeck, Gozelda, and Fai. I think that's all of them. Okay. Now let me just say, as much as I would like to bet on Eslo, he is a hat. He cannot win. He can eat people with his mouth, but that's about it. I'm not going to lie, I'm probably going to go with the boat, because he's a boat, and he can just crush people by being a boat. King of Red Lions? Yes. Well, yeah, I mean, he's from Wind Waker, and Wind Waker is, I think we all agree, the greatest Zelda game, so naturally anything from Wind Waker. Sir, you get off my podcast. Anything from Wind Waker. I think Master Chief was win. Who sent you? Do you hate me? Who sent you? Have you listened to this before? Legend of Zelda, Wind Waker HD, greatest Zelda game ever, drops a life. I played BS Legend of Zelda the other day, and I'll have you know that that is... The BS Legend of Zelda? BS, broadcast to Tel-Aview, Legend of Zelda. I have no idea what that would even be. It's a remake of the first Legend of Zelda with a new game plus on the Super Nintendo. Okay. Oh. That doesn't sound like it would even come close to competing with Wind Waker. Does it have tingle? What? Does it have tingle in it? No. Oh, well, then what are you even talking about? Can you travel to the past? Yes. Can you travel between dimensions? No. Can you even travel? Yes. Can you smash yourself up against a wall? You have a whole world to travel around. Can you turn yourself into a painting and then walk on the wall? That's my favorite. Because the answer is no. Josh, what? What? I said, because if you can't, if the answer is no and you can't turn into a painting up against a wall, then there's no way that Zelda is the best game. Yeah, exactly. There's no boats, there's no paintings, there's no... There's no gimmicks. There's only the video game. Video games are gimmicks. That's what makes some video games. Hey, you know, they said the same thing about TV. Oculus Rift is going to change everything. Okay. And Oculus has changed nothing thanks to Facebook. Also in practicality. That's what happens. But yeah, anyway. It's funny because usually when it comes to favorite companions, people are always asking this, who we like the most, and we usually agree on Midna. So the first time I was asked this, who would beat up who? I don't think I've ever said Midna in my life on this podcast. I want you to take that back. Alright, I think the king from Zelda CD. Well, you might have me there. I might agree with that. There you go. Who would beat up such a lovable oaf? Oh, speaking of kings. We learned more about Triforce Heroes recently. Yes. Yeah, we learned a lot of new characters. We learned their names, what they like. The major players in the series. And I finally saw a picture of the princess trapped in tights. She's pretty funny. It's like this entire body suit. So you know the plot of Triforce Heroes, right? That a king is crying and he needs a new pair of pants. Those are nice pants, sir. They do not reach his ankles, but they are nice pants. No, no, I thought the story was... What is the story behind the game? The story is that the princess has been trapped in a pair of tights that she can't get off by a witch. And the king needs heroes to lift the curts. So he looks for some legendary heroes. And he finds three kids and he kind of pushes them together and says go on an adventure and defeat the witch. Which is maybe the strangest, most random plot a Zelda game has ever had? Yes, and I love it. I love everything about it. Trapped in tights? Yes, there is the witch subdued corpse led by a man named Sir Orubaku. There is a witch with a name that is harder to say than Sir Hasrila, which I never thought was possible. Okay. What about the modern cheerleader costume? Have they explained that yet? Do they need to? Oh, actually they explained that the clothes designed by Matt and Taylor are all magical. They'll have special powers within. Wasn't there a time when people were really upset that a train could exist in the Zelda series? Now we're just ignoring a modern high school cheerleader costume on Link? Sir? He rocks it. Whether or not he rocks it or not doesn't explain how such a thing exists in the universe. That also is true. This is very true. I guess fans just care more about locomotives than they do modern clothing on Link. We're talking about a game that has magic jeggings that are trapping the princess. Jeggings are pretty magic in real life, okay? They are pretty magic. Is it pants? Is it tights? I don't know. We weren't meant to know. And we never will. I wonder if anyone's still listening. They're captivated. Hopefully. It's totally nonsense at this point. It's been 45 minutes of just rambling. But yeah. If you want more info on that or how the costumes have souls in them, check out the link down below. That's also where you can find some more information on our friend Josh, who runs BitLock. Josh, what can they find when they go to your channel? They can find a whole bunch of Nintendo-related video game coverage. Can they also see some fabulous cosplay? They can see cosplays. They can use their eyeballs to see what might be the first time a male has officially cosplayed as Zero Suit Samus. I guess I can't. Cosplayed and rocked it. Okay, I'll take your word for it there. We'll go with that. So, waiting for that pin-up calendar. The posters and the cardboard standees are already in production. Sweet. I've ordered about 1,000 of them. 2 units, my good sir. Alright, you'll get them. My own little Josh army. But yeah. Let's talk about the... Something that really got my interest this week was the voice actor strike. I'd like to talk to you guys about that because I think it is very relevant to video games. Yeah, I want to make sure my games still have Steve Bloom, so they need to pay him more. Or they gotta play Nolan North. I'd like to do the honors and explain what happened this week with the voice actor strike. It started a while ago. There's not really much to say. It pretty much was that video game actors want to be unionized or at least get the same benefits as they would of being that they would in TV or film but for acting in video games. That's pretty much all there is to say. There's a lot more to it and when you first kind of glance through it it's kind of really fishy some of the things they kind of bring up but I actually had a chat with a friend of mine who is a voice actress who works in the industry and she cleared a few things up. But there's still generally one thing that kind of bothers me about it but otherwise I agree with it in full and that is there's now obviously voice actors should get royalties for their work. They do put a lot of work into these games but the strange thing is that they put down that they should only be paid like the it's really weird how to word this. They want to be paid on certain levels of royalties as opposed to like slow percentages. Let me just read it off. I don't think they were getting slow percentages. They proposed a payment scheme in which the actors would receive bonuses if the projects they work on sell upwards of 2 million copies and they would keep bumping up these royalties until it hit about 8 million and it's kind of weird because 2 million is their idea of a successful video game but a lot of AAA games you might have heard of recently that they need a lot more before a game can be deemed successful. Metal Gear Solid 5 has been rumored to need at least 6 million units sold before even it can be considered successful and actually get its money back so the only thing that's kind of weird is that pretty much while the union would be considering that game to be a success of 2 million copies the company would just be paying out just for something that's essentially a flop but I'm sure there's more to it and that's probably something they can work out. I remember when I first looked at it I was very concerned about indie studios and things like that because it kind of felt like non-union actors were going to get kind of screwed over, people trying to make it into the industry for the first time did you find anything that kind of clarified that? I don't know. What I've pretty much learned is that if you are running a smaller company and you are not signed up with that guild, that union to hire actors that are in that union you don't have to really worry about that. Non-union actors can still get non-union jobs and non-union jobs can still get non-union actors. Okay. It's important to be part of a union though I went to a con this summer, it was super con in Miami, Florida and I went and saw a voice acting panel and so up on the panel were people that a lot of not more TV stars in video games but each of them went on to tell their own stories about how it was really important for their career to get for them to kind of lift off in their career by becoming a part of the union and getting an agent and all these things because that's pretty much how you get jobs it's really tough to get jobs when you're not a part of a union and like if you don't have a manager or some sort of representation then they're going to look for you after the fact they've already looked at all these people that are already a part of a union and stuff. Alright. And so like right now it might be the time for those kind of people that they're going to get more jobs if this thing carries on like this whole lawsuit and everything and it'll be great for these people to start off their careers in a way but like it's going to suck for some of the existing the existing talent that people like you know they know and they love I saw a tweet from David Hader today talking about this and he posted a photo like a screenshot from Metal Gear Solid that he was in and I'm like that's in a way I kind of laughed because I'm like oh that's funny because Keith or Sutherland is a is a big boss now. You know what I honestly I started to break cut off topic but I don't like Keith or Sutherland's performance I just don't. That's fine. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Me personally I don't see anything wrong with it but it's just an example you know like he I'm asking this I have no idea why he didn't get the position you know why he didn't get the position of Snake again. Yeah big boss actually that has to do probably with the fact that they wanted the game to be a little more marketable and attaching a big name Hollywood actor to the games would definitely boost sales yeah I mean I could see that at least at least in the eyes of investors it does look a little bit more enticing when you're able to get better actors. I guess during the the during the development the beginning development middle gear solid 5 or ground zero is even like Kunami was thinking a little differently back then but I could I could see that from like three years ago Kunami I couldn't see that now just because of we know. Well now Konami has completely lost their mind so who knows. Yeah so I don't know who's running that company right now probably a Pachinko machine yeah that would be funny if that's like David Hader becomes like you can hear his voice telling Pachinko machine? Yeah you hear his voice telling use as a Pachinko machine pull my slot exactly exactly that was just my two cents on the subject matter I think a bigger issue is programmers not getting royalties developers developers and programmers and all that they're still just like a cog in the machine but I feel like that's a whole other discussion for everyone deserves bonuses honestly that's the biggest part of the game I understand the marketing and the publishing it takes some time but they're the only ones sort of reeking the benefits other than the developers sort of being able to get the games they want sort of and that's like not even the case for companies like EA and Ubisoft smaller studios or studios that have a creator's name tied to the work like you know Hideo Kojima production or directed by Hideo Kojima KG and Afune or the guys who did Shubham Knight, Nick Walsh and something they're in their own right celebrities as game developers we've definitely put them more in the public eye which does kind of benefit them for a lot of reasons I think that's probably why the strike is coming up because it's like now that we all know that the little guys can make it, we need to make it too like it's got to be the same all around it's good, I feel like we needed this strike the industry itself, they needed this so they wouldn't it would change standards all around maybe, I think that video games definitely need to fix a lot of the if they're going to have voice acting, if they're going to have writing they should definitely improve the quality of that because I've been very underwhelmed by a lot of the what is considered to be high quality video game writing for years um and I think it really is what about the case of acting why I said what about in the case of acting oh yeah that too, but that's that's part that has a lot to do with the writing available because you can deliver lines that are bad really well but they're still going to sound bad sometimes it's just working with the material in the case of the Sonic Adventure people those voice actors went in with no knowledge of the game no knowledge of the scenes themselves and we're just told to read lines by people that barely spoke English it's really that like video game writing has to become better before video game acting can get better right because there's it's hard to pour and invest in material that's not worth a grain of salt like beyond two souls is a game that has two really really good actors in it, William Defoe was phenomenal William Defoe, Ellen Page, really great but what they had to work with was godawful ended up becoming laughable yeah they're such good actors that the writing quality almost becomes subpar what do you think about that in the case of obvious what do you think about that in the case of the new like the PS4 game until dawn with Hayden Panatier that's different because that was meant to be like cheesy bad well I mean right I'm not saying it's bad like slasher game or slasher film turn slasher game like it's sort of awesome and I feel like that's good writing I think until dawn is the only game to have done what David Cage has been trying to do for three years and somehow has done it better than all three combined by not taking himself seriously and letting the medium sort of blossom out of the idea it's also that the story is a lot more fun and there's a lot more to do and there's a lot more choices like it's not there's no illusion of having choice like what you do actually affects what happens throughout the game multiple times right it's it's definitely something I really want to get into I really want to get into that game because I've only heard good things about it and every time I hear someone describe the game to me and every review I've seen has only enticed me more if you have a PS4 buy until dawn it's the only game you can actually buy for the PS4 so right I mean you know aside from Collins bias there's a lot of games you can give the PS4 they happen to be on other consoles I just happen to think they're better on the PS4 but that's just me also from software makes good games anyways Dark Souls 3 coming to PC anyway continuing Blood, Bloodborne Bloodborne I think there was something I wanted to talk about like really badly and I keep forgetting what it was two more fan topics maybe I could go into more fan topics until I remember Sean from New York asks us I recently saw the video of Kakariko Village made an Unreal Engine 4 and it blew my mind I wanted to know if you guys think they should have graphics like this for the next Zelda game thank you for asking your question Sean well Sean do you think that Nintendo games would profit or benefit from better graphics yes they would everything would benefit from looking prettier I mean imagine Mario that's more reflective and yet your favorite game is Wind Waker well but that's just it like to me pretty is not how many polygons you can cram onto a screen or how clean the textures are I don't know Wind Waker HD looks pretty bad you what they turned way too high no no it's the ocean it's the ocean in the summertime and it's a sunny day you're gonna see even more than that aren't you guys in Florida I'm not Adam and I are Collins with Sean in New York that game should not have as much bloom as Battlefield Bad Company 2 though see I don't think it did have a lot of bloom in the original screenshots I think it had more bloom lighting than what it ended up having in the final game but I think if you're out on the ocean you're gonna see some I don't know why it's gonna be a lot of reflective elements I do agree that I mean kind of play with the medium you kind of have an option there to lower it I guess also with the tuning style I don't know maybe they could have overall I think that's just in the case of Zelda I mean if you guys remember I think we talked about this on a few podcasts ago or I brought it up I know I did the the NX is planned to have like the technology to be able to run the Unreal 4 engine on it they wouldn't have it on there if they couldn't use it the Wii U can run Unreal 4 just no one wants to put Unreal 4 on the Wii U I'm pretty sure the Wii U can't really do that well if Unreal 4 can run on an iPhone I'm pretty sure it can run on the Wii U no alright it run on an iPhone but does it utilize all the tools that it needs to utilize you know what I'm saying I know what you're saying you can make a mobile game out of Unreal 4 but it's like it's not utilizing everything I'm just sure that I mean alright they can make a game on the Wii U but it's not going to use all the the things that kind of max out Unreal 4 I think the question I think the question more is do you need to do you need to use Unreal 4 on the Wii U that's the question I think a lot of people have been asking is like is it matter you know do you really need do you really need like fancy wheels and rims on a a go-kart or do regular Nintendo is not going to do it Nintendo has their own engines and stuff they're going to be using those based on technology from the 90s whether it's based on technology from the 90s or not that's just what they're going to do it's actually funny because one of the games I'm excited for coming up in like the next year or two or whenever it hits which is Kingdom Hearts 3 they swish it from Square Enix's regular engine to Unreal 4 and the game looks fantastic so it's I think they'll only switch over and use it if something happens to there it was a problem because they were like having issues they were trying to fix problems that have already been fixed in other engines it just means they're making Kingdom Hearts 3 a great ass game and so they realize the engine is crap and they need to use a better engine to handle a great ass game that's all I'm saying so I know about web design but there is a whole thing about you could build your own web host from scratch or you could just use one that already exists if you're making a restaurant website well a host or the code for the website a host or something if you're making a restaurant just use a website builder one of the ones you can buy or one of the ones you can get for free instead of trying to write the code yourself you're not going to need to redesign the entire idea of how to make a menu on a website it's already been done so many times that it's easy it's like you know point and click you're done it's already been kind of set to just go anywhere you need I think that in Kingdom Hearts 3 they kind of saw that same case where it's like we could have in interviews or in press releases they had problems and they could have fixed them but it was a much easier transition just to swap over the engine and get focused on getting it out quicker I mean not even that I don't want to say they were taking the easy way out no no no not the easy way out but there's a precedence of like development times are very very very tight synonyms they don't give a crap about development times we've been waiting for this game for more than 10 years the fact that they were willing to show off tech demos means that they're getting more comfortable with the idea and they know that as soon as they did that a little bit more publicity than they were before just leaving everyone silent so they want to rush the game out as quickly as they can without leaving major bugs and switching to Unreal 4 might let them keep the production speed that they were hoping for while also addressing the bugs that they needed to be fixed immediately and not to say that they're rushing the game but they're just trying to keep deadlines and deadlines are important because it doesn't necessarily mean the best engine people might be just switching over to Unreal Engine 4 because it's already been like compiled a bunch of times and resources are a lot easier to get for it but I mean I understand why people use Unreal actually you bring up a point because Unreal Engine 3 is used everywhere but that engine was ass I don't want to say I don't know why people are using Unreal Engine 4 but after Unreal they decided to do this thing where they they released the engine for free Epic Unreal same stuff their engine is now released for free anyone in the world can get the full engine on their computer I installed it like a few months ago their only thing is if you're going to sell a game after the power you make two grand off the game they're going to start collecting a percentage and you're going to have to pay back them so I mean won't that get expensive for games that use Unreal to like not as much as I mean licensing any other engine really but I mean you don't pay that many royalties the engine is only as good as the people who are coding it and utilizing it like idtech 5 is a fantastic engine but the problem is that so far the people that have been using it have just what do you the people that have been using it have no fucking clue what they're doing with it rage evil within they run terribly they're horribly optimized and they have like I enjoy evil within and I think you also got to think about so I'm saying the new order and the old blood prove that idtech 5 is a fantastic engine but no one knows how to use it properly Wolfenstein is probably the only soul exception of that game of that engine there's only like 5 games using that engine I'm surprised Fallout 4 doesn't use it well Fallout 4 is using they've been improving the one that they were using for Skyrim and it's the same one they've been using since Morrowind that was a terrible system but is it because the game trio engine is garbage what are you talking about there's such a charm with games like Fallout 3 and Skyrim yeah I like not being able to use ladders yeah that was alright no no but then you got to think about things that just happen in the game that you just can't explain and that is because of an engine that is sort of broken are we going back to that conversation we had about bugs of being charming I mean I like glitches and bugs in any game but when they developed Skyrim I feel like they saw the bugs they absolutely had to see them and they just missed certain things but they were just like you know there are things that are I think the exact term it's something about like ashipped I think it's called where it's something that they recognize as a bug but because they try to keep deadlines they will ship it out anyway with the bug I don't think it's like that at all I think they think it's funny they're going to put it in and that's exactly what I think they're going to do those same bugs are stopping me from enjoying a great game like a newer operating system because I can't run it if it ruins the immersion of the game or just totally stops you from playing it overall did you guys ever see like those flying bear things for Skyrim like the flapping stuff that is because of things that are happening and aren't supposed to happen you know but is that you taking the game seriously is that you treat they're trying to tell you you're taking video games so seriously look at this you're in a game and back me up on this that game has silliness and also seriousness and it does both intentionally it doesn't leave bugs in it just does things it makes funny dialogue it makes funny scenarios it throws things at you with the intention of trying to make you laugh or to keep you lighthearted while also giving you the serious gameplay bugs are fine and all that but I mean I should be able to reload my last save and the game should work fine and if that doesn't happen then I'm going to be pissed those things I agree with those fixes and issues I agree with but like there's just some things that are wrong with the engines the unexplainable things I just feel like those are things that developers don't need to fix CryEngine is probably one of the best looking engines ever made and yet no one uses it isn't it because it's really complicated what was the last game used in that one the last game I could think using CryEngine was enemy from and that's a budget World War 2 shooter actually you said earlier I wanted to bring this up about tech demos trying to get back on the conversation with Zelda you guys remember when the Wii U was first releasing and then they had the legends of the tech demo yeah the Wii U tech demo looked fantastic so that actually by the way I don't think that was running on an actual engine I think that was seriously a video that was playing between layers to change the lighting and what not and then they just applied like a fisheye kind of camera lens to it to make it look like you were moving it around is that what that was like what happened to that engine is that what we're going to see it doesn't exist that was like Pixar have you guys ever played obviously Pixar was going to be a weird question have you guys ever played the tech demo application that Nintendo made for the GameCube no but I've seen that that's cool they made when they were first showing off GameCube hardware they made like a disk full of all these different tech demos and like renders it's like a big render of like Peach's castle and you can float through and it shows off how the thing can do anti-aliasing and transparency and reflections and like 30 other things and it's really cool yeah that's cool you can play it on like a golf ball later but no I did not know that I've never gotten into emulating the GameCube it's very easy I just bought a GameCube this year and it was great and I like it it's the first time you own a GameCube well I've always my cousin owned the GameCube growing up and I own my cousin's house all the time so I got to play GameCube games with him the first time I actually owned one I decided to purchase one this year I'm going to just buy some of the games that I want and I'm not done buying I still have like maybe five more on my list and I really like having it and it's just like man I wish I had this in my house growing up but instead I had the PSU in the Xbox and N64 and then I got a Wii and then the 360 and PS3 and all that jazz I remember when I was younger my neighbor like across the street we both had GameCubes but he had Luigi's Mansion and I would always want to go over and play it and I ended up bothering him like every other day to just play Luigi's Mansion Luigi's Mansion is awesome that's a great game oh and by the way I just want to say I just looked it up and what you're going to call it Evolve Uses Crayons and so oh battle cries yeah a lot of modern games yeah but not like a terrible like great amount Sonic Boom Rises Weary oh yeah that does use Crayons I completely forgot Sonic Boom Uses that's the best advertising for it ever also the Rise of Roman the Frostbite engine that EA used I thought that was strictly like I mean that's what Battlefront is going to be using yeah but they should license that out more no I mean yes because so other places can use a good ass engine yeah well I mean Plants vs Zombies, Cartoon Warfare is actually really good I have it I'm not going to say it's not you know I don't play it as often it's more of a game that like it's a good split screen co-op game it is but it's not something that you know you won't get I would shooters definitely need to look at that I don't think Call of Duty should have their hands on that any day though I would never let Activision have their hands on that Call of Duty is still using the Quake 3 engine and there they go they don't need to touch that Battlefield as a game that like would you prefer a better Battlefield or Call of Duty if you say Call of Duty I'll stab you in the throat okay well all right here's wow you're really back in the corner with that answer I'll go with it depends on what like era of Call of Duty and Battlefield we're talking about if you talk Modern Warfare 2 and like Bad Company 2 I mean Bad Company did you enjoy Bad Company 2 it's not you did I mean no because there's there's two eras of Battlefield there's like up to 2142 and then there's Bad Company 1 and on and if we're talking about pre-Bad Company 1 I totally prefer Battlefield because 1942 and Vietnam and 2 and 2142 are like some of the best games made for PC on the other hand Call of Duty really picked up the slack with World at War Black Ops, Black Ops 2 and Battlefield 3 and 4 you think Battlefield Black Ops 2 was good yes I will say I enjoyed the single player sort of but the multiplayer just kind of bored me and the zombies the what they do is zombies zombies in Black Ops 2 was terrible but overall I mean to try our Call of Duty are printing out a much better package than any of the newer Battlefield titles well Battlefield or Call of Duty Battlefield titles I mean Battlefield 3 and 4 Battlefield 3 was okay but it's the single player was the worst Battlefield 4 is overall a terrible package and Hardline was a complete mess so I played the Hardline was definitely the Hardline Beta I never touched any single players of like any of the Battlefield I'm strictly multiplayer I'll play the single players on the Call of Duty except for Modern Advanced Warfare Advanced Warfare I did the multiplayer and I enjoyed that just like this last month oh yeah no it's fantastic we're fair as multiplayer there's nothing like I'm just gonna say this right now there's nothing objectively wrong with Call of Duty or liking Call of Duty there are too many of them and some of them take themselves way too seriously and they lead to them being awful like ghosts but for the most part I mean if you just play the Treyarch ones they are fantastic in a total 80s action um I wanna switch gears let's do this Josh how do you feel about esports how do I feel about esports he said that it's like trying to it's a really fantastic update recently that fixes the hitboxes finally calling stuff being such a nerd it's not bad yeah I literally know next to nothing about esports how do you guys feel about that I mean I've watched little to no esports I have such a fascination about wanting to know more about it just because it's really interesting in a way that gaming is finally getting sort of it's on the footsteps it's on the stepping stones to getting recognized in the sports community as esports I mean Starcraft has always been like big tournament wise and even broadcast I mean hell it's the national sport of South Korea um like it really is I thought that was League no Starcraft man Starcraft definitely and I mean Quake 3 has been like the go to competitive shooter since it came out in fact there's still a whole convention around playing Quake 3 Quake Con which I've been to and it's okay didn't this last Quake Con they give out a bunch of stuff they showed off a lot of Doom 4 and I was really sad I wasn't there no but the reason I mention is actually first of all this weekend that Smash tournament I actually tried commentary for the first time oh boy were you good technical skill but the guy I was commentating with and knew like everything he was like he knew hitboxes he knew percentages he knew strategies so the whole conversation was just me asking him about what the players are doing and what they should be doing or like how they should be reacting and just figuring out how they were understanding each other during the gameplay so this is what I see Adam you know how to be a host you're a host man this is gonna be your guy on the inside you be like I didn't pay to be like alright so I'm here with my special other host who knows more about this than I do alright so you're gonna walk us through these players what's going on their head right now well no I would ask him like alright so how should Greninja or how should Lucario approach the stage again you know Sheik is edge guarding but they have pretty decently high percentages what should Lucario should be doing this moment like you know what's the best strategy or like would throwing out aura balls be good I would just ask about strategies that I thought would be good and see if they worked so you're now gonna use these things to your advantage you're gonna win every Smash Bros tournament ever I did not win a single set well now that you know this information so yeah maybe but yeah afterwards he came up to me and he was like you did good and I'm like really it was just me being awkward while you explained to me why I was right or wrong and he's like no but usually what happens with commentary in Smash Bros is they both go oh that was a nice DI oh and that was a good up throw and that's it so that was comforting that's really good but anyway the reason that I was really excited about esports this week is that a popular fantasy league site that does a lot of sports draft kings has actually started to sign partnerships with esports teams to open an esports fantasy section on their site that's awesome so an official esports fantasy league has almost started in the US and almost in Canada it's gonna be starting in October right around the start of the league they've partnered with about 6 teams so if you are into fantasy like leagues and you like esports if you like league it's a good place to start it's a good fun way I can't wait to start my own esports team sponsored by draft kings and foreign hub so but no I think it's interesting I think it's really cool that video games are being recognized as like a more acceptable thing to be like a fan of not only by you know the general things you know Comic Con your gaming conventions that sort of thing but also by you know the sports section of our community you know we're seeing um esports become more of a viable thing for a lot of people you know esports athletes are getting accepted to colleges and getting sponsored by colleges to be a part of their esports team and that's pretty much it heroes of the dorm yeah yeah you're seeing a lot of stuff like that I think it's I don't know I think it's really cool and I think it's a huge step in the right direction but uh do you guys do you guys think I'm overreacting to that or no no no I think that's incredible that's like that's almost I don't want to say that's not groundbreaking news but that's like these are the first steps it's going to be until like we see we we walk into bars and we're going to see like there's going to be crowds people in sports bars for like oh they're wearing like they're wearing like evil geniuses or like when they start like jerseys yeah when they start selling jerseys of this stuff that's when you know excuse me that's when you know it's gone watch much like tournament footage but man like I could watch quake 3 and counter strike go like it's competitions all day like counter strike competitions are especially quake 3 because quake 3 everything is just a blur everything is a constant blur and you know what I would love to see animal crossing like competitions where like you speed run through the game how would you get speed party like e-sports that game is great competitive but josh can you imagine this for me you know it's two players they start out they're like sitting in like a thunder dome style thing and they have the three s in their hands it's like ready go and they have to like maximize like the size of their house before the other player does and they have to do it like within a certain time frame I don't know could be cool it could be a special game designed specifically for the maybe I don't know animal animal crossing e-sports animal crossing e-sports perfect what if it's like it's competitions based on who can make the best happy home designer crap there you go official that game literally doesn't judge you though by the way that game doesn't even that game never tells you whether or not you did a bad thing you know it's just like yeah alright really yeah coming soon to zelda and former first ever competition of style savvy trendsetters oh my god Adam would so want to be a judge on that I'd be a judge on that because you're so like that just looks like crap that is a thing I say that is in a way that I sometimes say it that just looks like crap I did see recently that like the hardest level in mario maker so far finally got beaten there you go it's really interesting to see because I was I'm surprised by how many difficult levels are in mario maker already like how much that community has grown and how rapidly it's grown uh in like how passionate people are about it I really hate the uh I shouldn't say hate because I don't want to offend people that make these levels but I don't know what the appeal is behind the levels that just play themselves where all the levels are just like don't touch anything and just like watch the characters in the game games for older right but those are like those are incredibly rampant on the like top levels for the game for some reason just seeing like how you can just take everything in the mario universe to make it play in just one sequential sequence you can you can literally stack things and mesh them together in weird ways you can have like Bowser Jr. riding on top of Bowser and on top of him have a hammer bro I don't know I don't think I'm such a I'm a fan of that because it's like I mean what's the point of this game is create awesome levels and like do awesome crazy things and like try to do it not just you don't just sit there in a regular Mario game you know you don't you don't just like wait for things to happen you gotta go out and get them yeah I feel like if I'm gonna play the level I feel like I want to actually be able to play the level novelty and I mean if you want to find the weird like super hard levels they're there too now there's some that are like the throw a lot of stuff at you and other ones that are just very precise there's even one that if you guys want to play Zelda 2 again the first dungeon has been remade in Mario maker and it's fantastic I made a Wind Waker course did you did you and should should we link the should we like put down the code down below like they did little big planet and start remaking like Wolfenstein 3D in Mario maker that would be funny they add like weapons yeah just just find out how to I think we mentioned this last week I would be I'm interested to see if anyone's gonna like try to break that game and crack into the code and add other like items and stuff and make the the amiibo costumes actually like with power ups so you know you get link sword you get we fit trainers like hula hoop thing I don't know it'd be it'd be pretty neat or you get pacman's ghost ability and every enemy turns blue that'd be cute yeah is there anything else you guys want to talk about this week um oh what do you guys think this is kind of a random sort of thing but PewDiePie and the no man sky devil appear on Stephen Colbert show coming up in a few weeks late nights give weird because they do that they've been doing that on like Jimmy Fallon and Conan for like a while yeah I mean though I don't follow either of those shows didn't Jimmy Kimmel have uh yeah Markiplier Markiplier did he? that was with the whole Jimmy Kimmel um thing that happened or he said what's gaming what's gaming on the internet but and so they went to explain to him exactly what they do for a job and make it valid and he was like okay I remember Conan has this pretty bad series where he does like video game reviews oh my god there yeah but they're so great because the people the dude that he does it with knows a bunch about video games isn't it so funny I love their Super Smash Bros video because they got the demo before the game came out like the thing that was at the best buys and everything it was just so funny he was like look at Kirby he's got like gross growing on top of him he can't even clap his hands he doesn't have hands and it was just so funny alright guys uh I guess that's it for this week I want to thank you guys for joining me Josh from BitBlock for joining me thank you so much it was a dream of mine to talk to such a handsome man uh if you guys these guys don't do it for you they're not handsome enough for you be quiet you're like up here and they're down there you can't see my hands but I'm like making a big gap in between them uh wow how do you guys put up with this guy we don't yeah we don't they don't talk to me outside of the podcast I talk to Adam everyday because I have to so we can talk about things I don't talk to Adam I only send him Papa John's in the mail he did send me Papa John's send me Papa John's okay it's here address we'll do it right anyway we'll do it we'll do it off screen thank you guys so much if you have any of your topics theme song submissions anything like that feel free to send that to us at Zeldinformerpodcast.gmail.com if you want to follow josh and bitblock check down below we'll have his twitter his youtube anything else that he wants to have do you want us to put that level down there that code that they can use to play your level your windbreaker course the windbreaker course was made on the review server so unfortunately I need to remake it make it again video is still up follow him on twitter so you know when that goes up I've been Adam this has been Zeldinformerpodcast episode 55 have a good night guys I can't drive 55 you can drive can we end on that we just did