 Let's talk about when to stop the bulk or the cut with a bulk. Once you stop gaining muscle, once the body fat percentage starts to climb on its own, like muscles not going up, body fats going up. That's a pretty easy sign, but here's another good sign. You just, you can't eat that many calories anymore. This is one that people run into. It's like, Oh man, I'm eating 3,500 calories. This is like a total chore. I'm force feeding myself. Like if you start to get to this mental state with your bulk, it's probably a good idea to reverse out of it because you're not training anything good by doing that. Now with the cut, when do you stop a cut? Well, if your performance really starts to decline in the gym, if you notice low libido, if you notice lots of fatigue, if you feel ravenous, not just like normal hunger, but like all you're doing is obsessing about food. And, and if you've never really done a hard cut, especially competitors, bodybuilders in particular will tell you about this, they'll have dreams of apples and strawberries and stuff like that. Like you start to obsess about food. That's probably a good idea to come out of it. That's who you know you're getting lean.