 Board member Sharon, if you could do a video and audio check for me, please? Okay Can you hear me? We can hear you and Okay, made it And vice chair birch, um, we can start the meeting when you are ready We came on camera here. The zoom seems a bit odd, but we'll just see in myself and sort of a blank screen here So and if we're ready to roll I will start We are ready great So reminding everyone that I'm the vice chair I'm a retired chair with some time and distance between me and and I don't share meetings all that often So it'll be a bit bumpy, but I'll be calling on the staff to help me along make sure I hit all the Dot all the eyes and cross all the Ts So call to order this meeting of the city of Santa Rosa Design Review Board regular meeting for September 1st 2022 Pursuant to government code section 5495 3e and the recommendation to help officer the County of Sonoma Designer view board members will be participating in this meeting via zoom webinar members of the public can participate virtually at www.zoom.us slash join or by toll-free telephone at 87 7 8 5 3 5 2 5 7 using the meeting ID 816 117 6 1047 Public accessing the meeting through zoom can provide comments during the public comment periods additional information related to meeting participation is available at SR city dot org slash design review board The meeting will be live streamed at Santa Rosa dot Legistar calm backslash calendar Click on the in-progress link you the meeting Meeting can also be viewed on Comcast channel 28 and at www.youtube.com Backslash city of Santa Rosa, so I guess now is when I actually called the meeting to order Since the September 1st 2022 meeting of the design review board for the city of Santa Rosa Can I get a roll call? Yes, thank you. Let the record reflect that all board members are present with the exception of chair Weigel great Can we look for an approval of the minutes or comments on the minutes from the August 18th meeting any members of the board have any Corrections or illuminations for those meetings from August 8 for those minutes from August 18th Hearing none those minutes can be committed to the record Item three. This is a time for public comments on Items not on the agenda if any member of the public whether on the zoom calling in Or calling in wanted to make a comment on a topic germane to The purview of the design review board, but not on today's agenda now would be the time So if you're on the zoom meeting raise your hand if you are calling in Can I get the what is the appropriate prompt for a caller to raise a star nine Darneine press star nine if you're calling So we will wait a moment here to see if we've got any public comment on items not on the agenda I am not seeing any hands at this time Great. We'll close the public comment and move to board business item for item 4.1 to Make certain that we're all here for the right reason I'm going to share the statement of purpose for the design review board from zoning code chapter 20-5 2.0 30 f Project review the review authority shall consider the location design site plan configuration and the overall effect proposed project Upon surrounding properties in the city in general review shall be conducted by comparing the proposed project to the general plan Any applicable specific plan applicable zoning code standards and requirements Consistency of the project within the city's design guidelines architectural criteria for special areas and other applicable city requirements such as city policy statements and development plans At this time item 4.2 any board member reports Don't believe we have any item anything for item 4.3 Move on to item 5 department reports for city staff to provide a briefing of interest any any department reports today Good afternoon vice chair birch and hello design review board members and members of the public We do not have any department reports today Great Thank You Amy Move on to statements of abstention any board members abstaining from either of today's public hearing items Seeing none We will move to consent items, which none are scheduled for today And we'll actually move into our first scheduled item 8.1 Public hearing for brookwood medical. It's a design review at 101 brookwood avenue dr. 21-058 So we will start with a staff report. Hello vice chair birch and members of the design review board The project before you this afternoon is the first one before you is the brookwood medical building it's Located at 101 brookwood avenue and 884 and 1000 second street It just occupies that whole corner adjacent to the creek. Oh Wait, I have to do my screen share don't I? Come on Suze Uh-oh it just said installation failed so bear with me a sec. Are you able to see my screen right now? You would appear so Yes, but you're not oh there we go. It's in presentation mode starting to jump in here We forgot to do notice so I apologize So start that over again Just a minute. I um I we need to do ex parte disclosures. I think that we Apologies for the interruption. Thanks Any expertise disclosures on the project? Has anyone spoken with the applicants or design team members or visited the site? I had a I had a conversation with uh Carlisle macy at regarding this A particular item But that but no, I gave them no indication is what my what my Feelings were with regard to the project at all And no information was shared that's not available to the public in this forum No information was shared that's not available to the public Perfect. Thank you Anyone else that that's my disclosure as well So I met with Carlisle macy just on an informational basis, but um, nothing that will be shared today I had a social conversation with Kurt Nichols from Carlisle macy. Um, and we discussed a little bits of the project, but um, nothing else Uh, it's not present today was shared and uh, I've been to the site Anyone else be good Great. Thanks. Amy for the heads up Okay, all right Yep, let's move to your presentation Susie. You got it. Okay. So again, it occupies that corner right at second and brookwood The project proposes to construct a 92,370 square foot structure for stories the medical office building coupled with a second structure a six level parking garage and I want to Really differentiate between the stories and levels the parking garage is six levels It's it's it's actually shorter than the medical office building, which I'm sure the applicant team will will explain during their presentation The required entitlements are first this design review, which is before the board today and followed by a minor conditional use permit Before the zoning administrator, which is scheduled on september 15th The reason that we scheduled the uh minor conditional use permit after the design review Is because the conditional use permit locks in the site plan Did not want to tie your hands So here's an aerial view of the site right now As uh, you know, that's that it's currently developed with um commercial uses both on 88 Or I one of the two second street addresses the one closest to 101 brookwood and of course 101 brookwood There is also This little chunk of land on the the east side of the site And that is a city-owned parcel. So just keep that little red triangle in mind. I'm going to bring it up later in another slide um, the project site is located and just to here and um surrounded by to give you some neighborhood context here commercial to the to the east public institutional the police station And residential to the south and of course the creek to that separates those uses and then residential and commercial to the west We had a really busy july or one week in july last year We had the neighborhood meeting Pre-application meeting with staff and a concept design review board All last july and then in december followed up with the waterways advisory committee meeting um in october Last year prior to the waterways advisory committee meeting the project applications were submitted Some of the the comments from the concept design review meeting Um were suggestions from the board to spruce up the front corner a little bit Um, the board was not in favor of the garage location They the board asked to consider increasing the size of both buildings given the downtown station area and um the the intent of going up not out And um add access points on street facing elevations The board also provided compliments really liked the mosaic patterns of windows On the medical office building they like the perforations and the garage structure And um were complimentary of the landscaping and creek path The general plan uh land use designation is neighborhood mixed use and that's identified by that kind of mob color And on the graphic here on the screen It's surrounded by other to the to the west by core mixed use and and then to the to the uh east by office um The medium density residential but primarily office uses and to the north as well with uh retail and business services The zoning is nmu, which is also neighborhood mixed use and they are consistent Some of the general plan goals are shown here uh to maintain downtown. It is a major regional um office financial civic and cultural center in the north bay um and a vital mixed use center um And just to promote new retail and high density uses along the city's regional and arterial corridors We're going to get into to more of the um and of course the creeks. How could I overlook that? We'll get into more of this with the general plan. It's also providing Employment offered opportunities. There are a lot more um goals that were listed in the staff report this Uh, the view that you're seeing here is from the creek um parking parking is a Topic that's come up and this isn't an area in the downtown station area plan where there is no parking requirement There's no minimum and they have they have provided a six-level parking garage as well as in surface parking Um, it's at the project while the project exceeds the parking requirement It's supporting by supported by a Traffic analysis or a parking analysis prepared by w-trans this type of use medical office building I don't know if anybody else has spent any time driving around the Kaiser parking lot looking for a parking space But I have several times and so I think that just out of some very local experience I think the w-trans um analysis is is Is real as well done lot coverage floor area ratios setbacks building design and the ground level design elements are all In compliance with the zoning code Here's the boundary of the pink line shows the boundary of the downtown station area plan This project site is shown here with the the star is on the eastern edge of the of the downtown station area plan Because it's in the downtown station area plan as I mentioned earlier that the concept review meeting that the board suggested that the The the buildings be um higher made higher The top elevations shown here are what was presented to the board There were also some other design considerations like elevating that that front glass element And I'm going to let I'm going to defer to the applicant to talk about all that But here is now what's in front of you today is the um is the are the elevations on the bottom Specific plan goals again. There are lots the specific plan downtown station area specific plan the design guidelines and the um General plan have a lot of crossover in terms of goals and policies I tried to minimize the crossover as much as possible here um The downtown station area will be economically viable and resilient A balanced supply of parking that supports both quality of life and business vitality And a diverse range of public spaces At different scales and sizes throughout the downtown station area to provide outdoor recreation And relaxation opportunities for the residents workers and visitors one of the benefits of the Of the site plan is the creek path They will be extending the creek path From brookwood and as you see it kind of cuts through here. I'm going to try and get my cursor here Cut cuts through over here and then wraps up with a public access season so that somebody walking along brookwood Can cross over You know walk along the creek path and go to second street. There are also some seating areas Which can I'll defer to the applicant to explain to you. Um, there's an accessible path of travel here It gets uh, uh visitors from the garage and the parking lot to the building and of course these two Red triangles denote entry areas to the medical office building can um The project has also been conditioned To um, give us an easement for this section here So if when more development happens to the kind of southwest there Along the creek, uh, that pathway will be able to be extended Some of the design guidelines I'm highlighting here is to locate entrances and upper story windows such that they look out onto And at night cast light onto sidewalks and pedestrian paths Corners corner buildings should have distinct architectural features and defined building entrances on both street frontages And or um architecturally distinct corner entrants Um incorporate creative elements into buildings for both functional and aesthetic purposes such as vertical gardens Which would provide aesthetic interest while aiding in temperature control Select landscape materials and plants that are Appropriate in scale and function to the locations in which they are placed And to design sites including buildings and the parking lot such that vehicles are not the dominant feature So a few issues that arose uh during um during staff review um Were resolved uh first the applicant agreed to extend the sidewalk along brookwood From the project boundary to the bridge. So as I told you earlier that little red triangle the that city property um There's no frontage on that but the frontage starts just just kind of at the end of that where it crosses over the bridge So we have we have a pedestrian path of travel there So the the project or the developer has agreed that they will extend that pedestrian path of travel all along the brookwood frontage To the bridge including along the city's property frontage um, there were some some struggles with the um You know with low impact development features. We've had Uh some changes with allowable BMPs with the water board. Those were all resolved and um Of course, I already mentioned the justification for the parking structure Which this is kind of a new thing. Um, we've always had Justification for when we didn't have enough parking and this is exactly the opposite. So There are no unresolved issues There are seven required findings. I am not going to read them all to you. They're shown on the draft Resolution and they were also listed in the staff report has also shown on the draft resolution staff's analysis has um Resulted in the the findings can be met We received um Some actually not a lot, but some public comments um First relating to a six level parking structure should not be placed adjacent to brookwood brookwood avenue the downtown station area Specific plan encourage burn encourages vertical construction The design review boards suggested an increase of height for both buildings It's a very challenging site to develop if you can see there's a very narrow Um distance between the parking structure and the creek just wide enough for the um for vehicle access and of course to achieve the above midpoint floor area ratio The site has a floor area ratio of four and just for people who don't really understand what that means It basically means you can build a Build a four-story building on the entire site And so they they are required to meet the midpoint of that which they achieved by going up taller in these two structures so um Existing tenants may be displaced before their leases are up I I don't believe that that's the case But this is that is a matter that's between the leaseholder and the tenant And the project. I'm sorry. Yeah, the leaseholder and the tenant the project will eliminate derelict activities that have occurred on Property for years. So this is somebody that was very much in favor of the project And I just like to point out that it doesn't Eliminate the problem it just shifts it. Um, and we're working on that with other other Means So the project has been oh, you know what? I also want to mention to that late today or not late today, but this afternoon we received another set of public comments from I received an email and I'm just going to it was posted as late correspondence In case people didn't have the opportunity to read that. I'm just going to give you the highlights of it The first issue was that the project would overload our adjacent parking lot. It's from the business owner from across the street across brookwood Next, uh, the hospital access Will hospital access Will happen across their property meaning people from this building going to the hospital Will will walk through their property if there's concern about Pedestrians versus parking lot cars Or cars moving the parking lot This high rise project will alter the density and character of the neighborhood The market does not need this additional amount of medical square footage This project would prioritize large practice groups over individual local doctors And that's it. So many of those comments are related to the use there. Um, and We also don't we don't regulate concentration for medical office buildings Um, and I I if you have any other questions, I'm happy to respond to them If I can Environmental review the the project has been as has been found statutorily exempt from CEQA pursuant to public resources code 21166.4 and 15182 It's these are statutory exemptions for projects that are consistent with station area plans or I'm sorry specific area plans and um And for which uh, um environmental impact report was adopted Which this project is the floor area ratio is greater than 0.75 on a commercially zoned property It's consistent with plan Bay Area 2040 um, it's within the downtown station area priority development area and within a transit priority area um, it's consistent with the downtown stationery specific plan for which the environmental impact report was adopted So with that It is recommended by the planning and economic development department that the design review board by resolution grant design review for brookwood medical project located at 101 brookwood avenue and 884 and 1000 seconds to eat And for anybody who's calling in and can't see the screen My name is susie murray And you can call me if you have questions about the project or the upcoming Zoning administrator meeting. I can be reached at 707 543 4348 And my email address is Is uh smu r r a y at s r city dot org And that concludes my presentation And um, I know that we have a couple people here from the applicant team that would like to give you their presentation Um, unless you have questions for me first Let me uh, let's I wanted to hit something at the very beginning and susie. Thanks for the great presentation and it was Uh concise and quick. We are under a little bit of time pressure today as we've got We're going to lose a quorum at 6 30 So we're trying to squeeze these two public hearings in so i'll share that with everyone the applicant team to the to my other board members and As we go forward here, uh, what i'd like to do is first off run through The board for questions for um susie questions for staff, uh, any any of the staff of the city When we wrap those up we'll go to the applicant presentation Uh before we get to um discussion with the applicant. I'll open the public hearing on this item. Then we'll go to the Questions of the board to the applicant And we'll hopefully at that point be able to get to the point. We can make a motion. So let's start with that questions for staff From the board and I will start with board member Sharon Um, no questions for me for staff Great board member staff No questions from me. Thank you Board member mcqueen No questions from me Great nothing here either. Let's jump into the applicant presentation Okay, and I'd also like to let um our uh folks in the Uh chamber know that um that we're looking for uh, daren at adkinson We'll be doing the presentation contrary to the names that I sent over to you earlier I'm going to go ahead and um Share my screen again and daren when you're ready to go you just tell me to advance slides Okay, great. Thank you So, um, I'm ready to go. So thank you so much for giving us an opportunity to show you the uh developments that we've made over the last uh since the last meeting And susie did an amazing job of uh introducing a project so I can kind of I can hopefully uh go through this more quickly So we can kind of skip past this given we kind of really know where the site is and I think most of you are familiar with The site itself. These are just images of the existing conditions on the site and uh, maybe you can move past this Just an interest of speed The development here this plan really represents how we plan to use the site I think what's important to note is that there are three entrances and exits onto the site to try to expedite the uh access to the project and the flow through and on and on and through the space The building is located right on the corner of second in brookwood per the downtown station area requirements That's why it is where it's located. It also helps us kind of make use best use of the space as you mentioned It is a very challenging shaped site to develop And then the parking structure is a long brookwood and you can see that it is kind of pulled away from brookwood a bit To try to accommodate some of those statements about the proximity and height and the appearance of it along brookwood Main drop off in front or to the south of the building Where you have multiple entrances the lobby space and then access easy access to the parking um, we can move to the next slide And then we're providing these images because during our last meeting you guys provided some thoughts about Buildings that we might want to look at that had some elements about them that you thought might help us and these were certainly someone that we found to be Helpful and inspiring really kind of helped us address the sense of how the building is grounded How we've created a bit of more of a base than we had before thinking about breaking the building up with The kind of a feature glass element and how that becomes a special element with a little bit more patterning And then kind of expressing the stairs as individual elements themselves So these were helpful in kind of getting us to where we are today So we can move past this one next So just starting with kind of what the building looks like this is an aerial view aerial view from the north you can see the The building itself nestled in at second in brookwood The main feature of the building at that cross Section is going to be the glass element of the brow and frame around it And then as you extend past that the the parking garage beyond The patterning is intended to be similar so the two relate to each other even though they are different types of Uses so if we go to the next view you can see this same image, but from the street level So you can start to take um, kind of see how we try to address the corner Yes, um, one of the some of the main changes we made here would be to change the color and push of the ground level The side pushed it in a little bit to create a bit of a shadow line and give a little bit more area to our landscape along the street Make it a bit more pedestrian friendly the big obviously the biggest feature would be the the metal frame with Varied colored glass so that there's a bit of playfulness in in the glass on the corner Yeah, and then We also address kind of how the building really touches the sky at the top by creating a bit of a cornice at detail there to make it I have a little bit more of a Called it a base middle top Thing that's if you want to go to the next view And then this is the view across from brookwood and you really see from here How although susie when when susie talked about the levels and heights of the buildings We have four levels four stories of Medical office building, but it is taller than the six levels of parking and that just has to do with The the math the floor-to-floors are much less And we have been working to make the parking garage as low as we can And so that we can try to keep that scale as sensitive as possible Again, this image helps you kind of see how we're using some Articulation on the parking garage that you don't normally see I think That helps tie it to the development. So it starts to tie the office building window pattern to the The parking garage There you see on the far left some kinetic art that we're proposing that would help kind of create some interest during the day And break up the pattern of the long garage. So next A view of the building on second street as if you're driving east And again, just kind of expressing how the ground level has kind of recessed in a darker color to kind of anchor it to the the ground plane and You know a window patterning and and breaking the building up a little bit with glazing and kind of expressing the stairs Okay, next you And a view from the creek Looking at it from the property development You can see again how the main entrance has a lot of glass with a frame around it Breaking up the long facade with a little bit of different texture and color of materials as well as expressing The stair on the left Next And then this view is from the other side of brookwood driving a bit north And you can again see the the pan the kinetic art panels Relating to the window pattern and then shows really the main entrance into the site between those two So the garage and the building really start to frame the main entrance onto the site So it's there's some clarity of a way finding there Okay, so next And then a view a little bit further back and up so you can see more of it Um, that's okay. I thought you were maybe rushing me there, but that's okay Um, the this one is just expressing on the garage. We were actually using some planting Uh, some green screens where we're planting those up the side of the building will have some vegetation So that there's a bit of a a natural break Of the natural you know over the hard architecture And then we also are placing a photovoltaic array on the roof which will provide a lot of energy For the building, but it will also shade the cars at the top level. Okay, so next Again below are some images of the materials we've chosen. I think um, we don't have to Dwell on this too much, but we can we were using stucco A combination of stucco some phenolic panels that have a wood pattern to it And then some metal panels so some very rugged Durable materials that will last and I think will look um great for a long time say next And then just a simple plan where the lobby space entering off of the Drop off on the south stairs to the south and then space planning hasn't been done because the there's not a tenant yet Okay, next Upper level free open space for tenant So next And then this is just showing kind of the our our approach to both a roof Roof mechanical screen as well as the trash and equipment and enclosures on the ground will be Painted metal louvers consistent with the tones of the building next Parking garage is a unique garage because of the site conditions. It's a it's a single bay garage. And that's why it's the six levels And tucked up Against the the properties as best we can to pull it away. We tried pulling it away from brickwood as much as we can You see there's a little bit of a wedge of planting there on the left side to try to give a little bit of relief And then we used the two different materials on that side to break it up as much as we could Okay next And this these images illustrate a few of those ideas We've just expressed on the one on the far left We've got the green screens where we have natural vines growing up the building to try to break up The scale of that building And then in the middle is some kinetic art Which I think you guys all have some experience with because I think you have a beautiful installation in your downtown area It's quite similar to this So the idea is that it has some movement during the day in the wind and creates a bit of interest on on the garage And then not to forget about what this Development feels like at night the thought is also to use some lighting on that parking garage so that that that patterning stays Consistent even in the evening And has some interest as people kind of experience the building at night Okay next And then this is the landscape, but I don't know if Breanna if you were going to jump in here I think we can if Breanna can jump in and talk to it We'll let her do that. If not, we can kind of maybe open this up to questions for landscaping, but Yeah, let's um, we've got a We're member we're member Sharon in particular is probably looking at the landscape closely. We could we could jump into questions about the After when you wrap up the presentation Okay, so let's just skip past these Images go to next you can start to see some materials of the landscaping the landscape plans And I think if you have some more questions about this we can get into more specifics about what type of Plants for choosing that are all very I think drought tolerant plants Inconsistent with the region so next I think that might be it I think that would be our presentation I believe that's the end. Yeah great. We tried to we tried to make that as fast as I could so super Let's uh, let me go ahead at this point We'll come back to questions and I and I think we can talk about landscape a little bit in the questions But I want to open the comment or the the hearing the public hearing for public comment If you are on the zoom meeting you can raise your hand at this time if you're on the call Uh, you can uh star nine is the prompt And I will look to staff to see if we get hands raised We'll give it a minute or two here to make sure we can get people Give people an opportunity to get in for public comment Okay, it looks like we have pat Pat you should have a prompt allowing you to unmute and if you could please start by stating your name for the record My name is Pat St. Clair And I want to say that this project is too large and out of character for the neighborhood Um Except for it's close to the housing project on force street which blocks views down forth to courthouse square Um, it's disruptive to animal habitat being where it's at The habitat uh as turkeys river otters birds deer and other things and this is um A specific thing for you suzie The ads in the paper are too small to read without a magnifying glass Very very difficult to read Um for the parking garage It being too tall also for the site um The handicap sites And I suppose this is a federal law It usually only has um this the crosshatch lines on the passenger side and It needs to be taken into account that handicap people also can drive cars There is not necessary a limit to mobility And so they need to be striped on both sides And egress on both sides of the car And that is what I want to say about this Thank you. Okay. Thank you next we have um Eric Eric you should have a prompt allowing you to unmute and if you could please start by stating your name for the record Indeed i'm eric chazanken uh my family business is bay tree properties and uh we own 95 montgomery drive creekside medical plaza which is directly across brookwood from this site We've owned that property since 1976. I was really my father's baby for many years and We lost him sadly in 2018 So it now falls to me as trustee of our family trust that owns the property to take care of it We don't only own it. We manage it So i've been in and around that property since I was in elementary school And I am a commercial real estate broker and attorney Uh, unfortunately, we didn't have awareness of this design review process prior to this point I saw the sign of the property I got this postcard recently But we did not have an opportunity for input at earlier stages where I would certainly have provided it I know a lot of What you're doing right now is just evaluating whether the project as presented fits with the design review guidelines and the general plan for this location um And the comments I have are on a little bit more practical level from that first of all, um People don't like to use parking garages given up a choice. They're going to park on surface parking before they'll wind their way through a parking garage We've got a parking lot the parking lot for our property our 23,500 square foot medical office complex directly across the street from this And my feeling is that with the size and scope of this project and six levels of parking We're going to have people all over the place in our parking lot leaving no space for our tenants and doctors to park. It's already sometimes been an issue with the Memorial hospital projects when they were going strong people were parking there all over the place Um, we are also the direct path between this project and Memorial hospitals So if you look across the street try to see Memorial Hospital You can see a corner of it But in order to get to it you got to walk through our parking lot Nobody's going to walk around two blocks down the street, etc to get to the hospital I think that's going to be an ongoing problem that we're buying ourselves Uh, the high rise nature. I understand you're doing that per the guidelines. This is at the very edge of the zone that you're talking about And our project I believe outside our properties outside that zone where we do have parking ratios The notion that there'd be no parking ratio applied to this project for medical office is to me outrageous We're all used to having very strict parking ratio requirements for medical medical needs a lot of parking It needs good convenient parking um We already have medical office vacancies in the area There's no need for this size and level of property And the large plate structure of the design prioritizes large medical practices Versus small local doctors we need to support. Thank you Okay, thank you so much Um, and vice chair birch it looks like there are no other hands at this time Okay, great at this point. I'll close the public caring. I'm so sorry to jump back in it looks like, um Pat is raising um her hand again Pat we're going to unmute you, but you do have three minutes to make a public comment Um, but I'm vice chair birch if it's okay with you all unmute to confirm that there's not another person Um with them that would like their three minutes. Yeah, that's fine. And you know, I'd be open to I think pat took a minute and a half of her time I'd be happy to give her another minute and a half if she'd like and and uh If it is someone else at her and that's fine too. So All right pat. You should be able to unmute again. All right. All I want to say again the project is too big for the area and Believe it or not. It is uh spectacularly ugly and out of character for the City of Santa Rosa. Thank you very much And with that I will close the public hearing and we'll bring it back to the board So at this time what I'd be looking for is questions Uh from the board to the applicant team and I'll start with you board member sharing Excellent. Thank you vice chair birch and uh thank you planner murray for um, uh great presentation as always and for um providing All the materials is very thorough packet and um, thank you to the applicant also for your presentation And also for a good thorough package and a great iteration of the design as well you guys have all Put in a bunch of work That's apparent in the in the the package you presented Uh, just one question, um to make it quick. Um, I was just wondering, um With the corner of brookwood and second And uh street trees in particular. I know you've got the um the smaller trees, uh In right in front of the building the japanese napal, but just wondering why street trees weren't wrapped. Um Around the corner. I have an idea why but I'd like to hear some of your design intent I know brianna didn't get a chance to speak But uh, I just like to hear that Hi, this is brianna, uh with carl all may see the project landscape architect With the street trees at the corner We were trying to keep the view towards the The sort of jewel box the raised jewel box that corner to really frame it with the trees And instead of putting trees at the in a planter strip Bringing them closer to the building To really sort of frame and highlight that that corner of the building We're all right. Thank you. Oh go ahead. Go ahead. I was gonna say we're also we have to do all of our storm water treatment in those planter strips. So we're limited on the species And so it it it's easier to get the the trees closer to the building rather than on the the planter strip side Okay Okay. Yeah, I figured that was going to be the answer, but thank you for I'm eliminating that that'll do it for my questions Great board member step No questions for me Board Member McHugh I just want to compliment susie for her comprehensive presentation also for the applicant A vast improvement over what we did in concept review. So thank you very much I mean, I think it's an attractive building It is Something that I think that over time and particularly your your attention to the John We're gonna back around for comment in just a minute. Okay. Well, then I have no questions. Perfect With that with and I do not have any questions either I would be interested for those of you who aren't aware we operate under Rosenberg's rules We get a motion to the table and then the board begins discussion on that motion So it it's it's a bit of a different. It's it's a bit of a different process. So the motion pops out and then we I'll say deliberate So I'm not sure if there if we've got a a member of the board here who is ready to make a motion on the project I'll I'll make a motion I'll make a motion To Grant's design review approval for brookwood medical located at 101 brookwood avenue 884 and 1000 second street Um, so that's just parcels numbers 009081052 009063019 and 009063019 file number prj21-024 parentheses dr21-058 and parentheses and I'll wave the reading of the text And I'll second great. So we've got a motion on the table to grant approval to approve the motion To approve the resolution Now Back to the board for a comment on the project and I'll start with you board member with you You can pick up from where you where you were headed Well, thank you. I just wanted to again. Thank the applicant. Thank the susie for a very comprehensive A presentation all the data that she included And uh, very well done. I mean, I think that the project is the best improvement over when we first saw it And so I am excited and looking forward to it being built So, thank you Great. Thank you board member step On I wasn't part of the conversation last year But it was interesting for me to reach into comments that the board made at that time and see how they were implemented This is a great looking building a great use of the site. I'm excited about that creep walkway And I'm excited to drive down brookwood at night The drb's comments about how to how to make destruction more more interesting at night I think is really going to pay dividends. It's going to be a notable feature along brookwood Um, thank you susie for for your walking through the parking issues. That was that that was helpful Um, and I think that that's it for me. Um, like john said, this is a great looking structure. I'm excited to see bill Super thanks. Thanks board member step board member Sharon Yes, um, and again This is a really great, um iteration and to echo, uh, mark Thank you for taking into account a lot of our um, our design feedback um, really think that uh This has uh elevated, um, you know figuratively and literally, um your your design, which is great Yeah, I think that the um, as you mentioned the Raising the bulk over that that that pedestal has created a much lighter building. It's taller But it's it's lighter and and it appears to kind of float and Um, you know, there's some of the increased landscaping and the pedestrian access and frontages there Um, I think are well thought out and done. Well, um pretty much the entire site Layout is is really done as you mentioned a number of times is a really complicated um and quickly site to do and the way that you've, um You you've laid out um and gotten the um parking the access the ingress egress Is done um very sensibly and well. Um, I was curious to see how the how the iteration would go because We had a really great discussion the first go around. Um, and uh, I knew we raised some pretty Thorny issues for you guys, but you uh, you really rose to the occasion there um Yeah, I really enjoy the the um jewel box design on that corner there. I think that this this will announce itself strongly um as you as you're you're coming by and for this for the site um I was a little worried about the the mass and the bulk of what you proposed and the you know, particularly the parking structure But also the building itself, and I think that this iteration has done a really nice job to lighten things. Um As mark said the you know, thanks for taking into account my my thought about nighttime lighting I think that that's going to be really great. Also the the um The echoing the rhythm between the parking garage and the windows of building is really nice. Um, I think that it's it's going to do it's got that kind of That razzle dazzle that that that you know the motion breaks up the massing and I think that you've you've um all Worked well together to to really break up that massing Um Yeah, I thought I'm excited to see what the the kinetic art is going to be Um, I'm excited to see the vegetation growing on the the um The far side of the you've got a really nice um diversity of materials and and movement there um A couple of uh quick feedback things. Um I did have that question about the street trees and I I I knew that there was the framing of that jewel box and the jewel box is important and that in everything You know the building is beautiful on that corner there So I would like to see street trees kind of wrapping around um that that corner. Um, I'm a huge fan of street trees I'm in urban areas and um, you know There's a lot of asphalt around here in roads. Um, I think that there are ways that um, you know, potentially it It the the rhythm of the trees is a it increases as it goes towards the corner something like that Where you you have more spacing um from the the far sides of the of the site to the actual corner of second and brookwood Something like that. I think that it could further soften the building. Um, you know, maybe it switches to something columnar or Um, you know, but that's that's just a consider not a shall. Um, I uh would would like to see more urban street tree canopy And I think that that's an opportunity and it's a it's a bit missed at this point um uh, I think that the the um The diversity of materials and the colors that you've gone for are are are nice and muted. Um, and and uh understated, um, I think which is a good way to say it. I think this will it with a building of this size Um, that'll serve to have it Um recess as you as you you know your design intent to have it recess into the creek frontage And I think it's gonna do a good job I do think that the um I might reconsider the sand dollar as your your main um your your main color um, I could um, I'd like to see something a little Um less drab a little more warmth to it. Um You know, again, it's a uh to consider um I feel that you could you could uh really soften the building even more if you're giving some some warmth Warmth and or vibrancy, you know, don't paint the building teal, but um, there could be something that could be um You know some more thought that that could be added to that um, you know two two considers, um, but other than that, um job well done Great work over the best almost year and uh, thanks for thanks for bringing this to us Great. Thank you board member Sharon. Um, I'll share my comments on the project that Uh, one of the things that I really really appreciate about this project is it's really evolved into a truly foresighted um architectural sort sort of gem including not just the the medical office building but the garage And I think that the garage as a as a as a truly, you know foresighted I know it's very long building. So it's sort of two long sides. Um It provides an opportunity For for a great number of people to enjoy the creek landscape And I and I don't think that many people are necessarily enjoying the creek along this stretch right now So in terms of creating that park Uh being being really sensitive to to these buildings showing So handsomely from the creek side Um, I think it's a great opportunity for the number of people that would move through a medical office building like this and for uh, the neighborhood And bicyclists and folks to ride that creek path and enjoy a part of the creek that nobody's nobody's looking at right now Except maybe some some people very local to the to the to the property um I I will echo the sentiment of most of the board members here today The sculpture the sculptural uh, the tech sculptural panels and the green screen And the lighting on the garage are really really a key part of this approval So really looking forward to that coming together. That's going to be really critical. I think that What may happen is is I think that there may be more attention paid to the garage and it's interest in the level of interest in the garage for for Traffic on brookwood, uh, then maybe there may be the office building and maybe that's a little bit of a glib statement but I do think it's going to be a very interesting facade and I think it it actually adds adds quite a bit to the neighborhood. Um, I would I want to back up. I'll thank the applicant team and the city staff for As I've watched this project mature in a couple of different presentations and comments have been taken very Very very much to heart by the applicant team. I know that when we start these processes we get a bit of a You know throw the first rock over the wall and see what happens But as the project has developed and matured it's just been right in step with our Interests and I think that those of us on the board who really see the opportunity for growth in the downtown area Rolling up a lot of this single story parking lot Parking lot desert of medical that exists between memorial hospital and in this area rolling this up Stacking the parking up stacking the offices up No disrespect to the gentleman who owns the property across the way. It's very well done project There's a lot of very informal out-of-date Medical office in the area as well as we roll up those parking lots as we as we have more efficient buildings as we have more Energy efficient buildings. We have buildings that are built with On-site water retention in mind around these creeks Uh Really the environment of santa rosa the visual environment that the the environmental concerns are very much addressed so development isn't Getting taller perceived as a bad thing There's a lot of pluses and I think this project really addresses those and I'm really hoping that a tenant Comes on the scene and that this project can be built I would make one additional comment that will add as a condition and that is That I do think the colors are just a little bit drab behind the jewel box and perhaps the excitement of the garage facade and and the kinetic sculpture I would encourage the applicant to look at Punching the color tone up just a bit As as board member Sharon said it's not about teal But it but it could be about creating just a little more Variety in the color palette that highlights the Building body just just a bit and I do think some comments were made early on about maybe And maybe I think maybe there was some more color variation at one point bottom line The top band that touches the sky the little thin cornice. I think that's great But some additional variation and maybe it is maybe it is the sand dollar. That's just a little bit Grazy to use a term that I could see playing with just just a little bit. So we'll add that as a condition as we go What I would do at this point is Share that I'd like to ask Our motion or board member Sharon If the two items that we would add as Conditions to the resolution would be consider adding street trees At the medical office building on both second and brookwood and that's a consider so that the applicant understands It's not a it's not a shell, but it's a consider and it's a thought to take to the next step And second condition would be consider a warmer or more varied color palette To add interest to add additional interest to the stucco portions of the medical office building And I'm hoping that some on staff was writing curiously while I I'm trying I'm just going to repeat those. Uh, I thank you by the way for summarizing but that just let me get uh palette to add interest to stucco Okay, let me let me just try to So they're both considered consider adding more street trees at the corner of brookwood and second street Is the first one is that is that good enough adam? Are you a board member Sharon to be a little more specific to to address board member Sharon's comment was consider adding street trees at medical at the medical office building On both second and brookwood. I think that there was it wasn't just the corner. It was really Yeah Okay, consider adding adding more street trees at the medical office building along brookwood and second street That's good. Um, you could also say, um consider continuing this line of street trees because there are street trees, but continue to the to the corner I the what I understood and I can I can go ahead with the consider and if we can she they can get them in there And not compromise their storm drainage. I think that yeah, we'll see it. So I'll go ahead. Yeah, I see that So that's kind of that that's right in front of the building. It is in the area because it's continuing them. That's I'm looking at the plan as well. So consider consider adding more street trees along the frontage The second street frontage and the brookwood frontage of the medical office building to continue the pattern that's already there Um, yeah, I think that works. Okay Good, okay, and then the second one I can read my writing consider a warmer a warmer Hold on A warmer color tone pack or I'm sorry a warmer more varied palette To add interest to the stucco portions of the building of the medical office building It should work add um, um more vibrant and varied Vibrant you want vibrant? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. We do Okay, more vibrant and very varied. All right, got it. Can I ask uh the Motioner to uh, except let me see do we I'm sorry. Here's where I got rusty. Um, who makes the friendly amendment? I think there are two friendly amendments to be made Uh, I don't think it has to be john, doesn't it it has to be it falls to john Are you feeling friendly john? I am feeling friendly. I'm happy to add the two friendly amendments the motioner agrees Those amendments i'm i'm good with those amendments in the second I'll say I think I do I get to second that you you get to agree I get to all right I I second I agree. I second whatever the language is great Great with that. Um, I believe unless there's any further comment. We're ready to take a roll call vote on the on the motion Okay, great. Thank you um board member mcqueen hi board member sharon hi board member step hi and vice chair burge hi Okay, and that passes with four eyes with um at chair weigel being absent Excellent. Thanks so much to the applicant team and the staff. Let's uh, hope that you guys are back in front of Doing all the work you need to do soon and better construction All right, so with that. I think we are ready to move to um Anybody need a two-minute bio breaker? We good to jump right in and try and wrap this up by 6 30 I could use 60 seconds to drop my dog outdoors. Okay Let's take this right back. Let's take a 60 second break. You bet vice chair birch Looks like Oh god what I was muted. Sorry about that. We'll wait for board member mcqueen There he is great We are ready to roll for item 8.2 Let me get back to my agenda public caring for 38 degrees north phase three apartment homes design major designer view at 26 60 petaluma hill road dr 21-026 And we will look to staff for a presentation And that would be christenade Uh, sorry for the interruption again. Um, we want to do the x part a disclosures on this one I'll get this right at some point It's going great. Thanks Ex parte disclosures from the board anyone visit or contacts. Nope. Nope neither man Perfect. All right christenade take it away Thank you vice chair birch and members of the designer reboard christeningtonian senior planner Let me share my PowerPoint with you So the project before you this evening is 38 degrees north phase three You've seen some iteration of this project over A few years as they've moved on between phases Uh, 38 degrees north phase three Is a 30 unit multifamily residential development consisting of A 120 unit building 110 and 110 unit building on a 1.29 acre portion of a 10.87 acre parcel known as 38 degrees north phase two site A phase three is designed to operate with phases one and two as a single community And the total units on site with all the phases if approved is 322 units And here's the project site. It's abounded by um brands, uh, Kafka Avenue and petaluma hill road On the um South east side of santa rosa Sort of near um the cosco shopping center um Here's the corner that would um The last portion of of this site that that um That is currently vacant at the phase three site. You can see the two The buildings that are proposed the other phases that have been approved and that are um either occupied or under construction And here's a um site plan showing the 20 plex and 10 plex and the surface parking A little bit of project history of of the entire project july 17 2017 the designer view board approved phase one And it was 120 units on A 5.03 acre site There were some affordable units that allowed for density bonus and some um concessions There was an mnd that was adopted for phase one that bays is fully built and occupied In august on august 20th 2020 the the designer view board approved phase two and that was 172 units of multi-family on 10.87 acres it included 2.54 acres of open space and A community there was a area preserved for the community shopping center Um, there was an mnd for phase two that was approved and adopted And it's entitled an in-plan review for public improvement plans and grading plans Now that 1.2829 acre shopping center um Was subject to a general plan amendment and rezoning Um, so just to give you a little project history of this phase There was a neighborhood meeting held in may of 2021 concept design review was held on may 13 2021 The designer view board reviewed the concept item. Oh, sorry. It was submitted in may the designer view board reviewed the concept item in july of 2021 And as recently as november 18 2021 the planning commission recommended approval of the general plan amendment and rezoning which altered that requirement that there be a community shopping center at that corner and december 14 2021 the council adopted The addendum the general plan amendment and rezoning which allowed for this project to continue with the design review So here's the general plan and zoning And they are requesting a parking reduction um Code required parking for phase three is one and a half spaces per one bedroom two and a half spaces for two and three bedroom units For a total of 60 parking spaces The project proposes to introduce a total of 46 parking spaces on site Consisting of 21 covered stalls in the form of garages and 25 uncovered stalls The applicant is requesting a parking reduction of 14 spaces, which is a 23.3 percent reduction as allowed by the muni code section 20-36 0.5 0 Um sequa uh guideline section 15164 provides an addendum to an approved EIR is appropriate when only minor technical changes Or additions are made but none of the conditions Described in section 15162 has occurred The addendum to 38 degrees north phase two Mnd concluded that the proposed project would now cause new significant environmental impacts or substantial increases in the severity of significant effects Beyond those previously identified as part of the city's environmental review process And none of the circumstances under section under sequa section 15162 were triggered Therefore, no additional analysis is required With that the planning and economic development department recommends that the designer view board by resolution approved major designer view for 30 degrees north phase three project Which is a proposed three-story 30 unit multi-family housing project on an approximately 1.29 acre portion await What a 15.82 acre site located at 2660 pedilumeco road the applicant has a presentation. They're available for questions and comments as is staff Thank you Great. Thank you Kristen a will that Again, I'll just lay out the roadmap here We're going to go questions for staff at this point And then we will see the applicant presentation We'll take public comment on the item And then we will move on to questions of the applicant from the board So at this point, I will ask board member staff if he has questions for staff No questions Okay, board member Sharon Uh, thank you Planted two means for laying out the the whole story for us In the presentation great presentation, and I don't have any questions. Thank you Great, uh board member McHugh. I have no questions Great. Yes. No questions from me either. So let's jump into the applicant presentation if we could Shawna brine here with kennedy wilson. Can you all hear me? Yes, excellent. Thank you very much christin a for that presentation and introduction to the project Today I put together a short slide deck of the key design elements of the project The design review board at this point has seen this design both in the phase two Concept and final or major design review and now Here and major design review again. So I'll keep it nice and short But uh next slide, please As christin a laid out the application history began in april and we're here today for major design review the The mitigation the the amendment to the mnd the general plan amendment and the rezone Was adopted by city council back in december Next slide This is just the site plan. It shows phase one which is fully constructed and occupied Phase two which is currently under construction And where phase three kind of fits in at the corner of farmers lane and petaluma hill road next slide This is the site plan which christin a showed in her presentation Shows how the parking works the access is off Farmers lane and then there's an additional access off france kafka when you cut through the Those two buildings that are being constructed as part of phase two next slide This just illustrates the amenities that phase one And phase two will share with phase three. There's a cross access agreement which allows any of the tenants in any one of these communities to access the amenities of the other phases so As part of phase one we built a clubhouse with a fitness room and that's where the main leasing takes place Once phase two and three are completed the leasing will continue operating out of the phase one leasing center There's also a pool a tot lot a garden and a dog park there But we're also constructing a new two-story clubhouse and fitness center And pool deck as part of the phase two project So likely phase three residents will Utilize the clubhouse fitness and pool on the open space preserve, but they can also Utilize the pool and clubhouse fitness in phase one Next slide Here's just a Cool. I thought cool aerial of the project Just earlier this month. You can see phase one off to the left of the photo Those are the foundations for the new phase two buildings You can see two of the buildings in framing towards the back left of the photo And phase three is the closer to us on the right side where We're basically staging equipment and lumber at the moment. So Next slide This is just a summary of the related applications which christin a summarized earlier so we can skip this slide And then just we're here on the architectural renderings Just want to reiterate These are the same buildings that were designed and approved for phase two So they'll kind of match What's currently being built this whole community will kind of really look As if it was planned all together and built at the same time even though it was done in phases next slide Next slide These are just different perspectives from different areas. This would be from farmers lane kind of looking towards Petaluma Hill Road next slide And the material boards same materials that we use or are using at phase two next slide And then the next two or three slides will are just the elevations Um So we can just Move through this one to the next this is the 20 plex you can see the garages along the bottom elevation Which face the parking courts and then the front elevation faces the streets with patios and access Um for the residents Next slide And then the 10 plex is just a half of the 20 plex So half the units Same thing garages on the ground floor And the garages face into the interior of the project So the streetscape is nice and has all the resident patios and entrances Next slide I believe that's that's it for the slides of the presentation I just like to close by thanking the staff for their hard work on this project And appreciate their conclusion and recommending approval I'm here to answer any questions The design review board may have Thank you Great. Thank you for the I think the presentation. I think at this time We'll open up the Public hearing and we'll come back around to to board questions of the applicant But I will open the public hearing at this time. So if you're on the zoom meeting You can raise your hand. You'll be granted three minutes to speak if you're on the Call in you would press star nine to raise your hand essentially So we'll give a couple of minutes to see how many public comments we have here in the public hearing Okay, it looks like we have pat pat you should have a prompt allowing you to unmute And if you could please start again by stating your name for the record Part one If you can say that again, if you could please start by stating your name for the record All right, my name is pat st. Clair And I drove over by that site the other day It really looks bad. I was looking at the colors which you think is mustard or something like that It looks like a baby poop Um, I don't feel like any cosmetic thought has been given to how this has Been Colored let's say The Notice that was put in the paper does not indicate how much parking the amount of low income units I think that the open space preserve is too small for this amount of Apartments or whatever we're calling them and I want to remind everybody that the handicap parking Whatever the federal eyes or the state law or whatever governs how you line it up People with mobility challenges are also able to drive and there is no Cross hatching provided on the driver's side of cars were The handicap parking is Place so I think that should be modified to have The cross hatching on both sides of a parking space for handicapped people And that's what I want to say right now Okay, thank you so much And there are no other hands at this time Great. Thank you. I'm gonna comment quickly on pat's Concern regarding the ADA parking spaces from the past two items Um, I was just going to take a quick look here. There's two different types of ADA parking spaces And uh, those are van spaces and they're auto spaces and they're different widths and the Area of protection the striped area is different for the two So I haven't looked directly at it because I know that those items will be handled appropriately through the building permit process and through the building inspection process But I just would encourage Pat to look at the ADA regulations and understand what the difference between two types of spaces are there's requirements for the number of Uh, ADA van spaces and ADA parking spaces and they do have a different Approach to where the uh, the safe area is located. So I I'm guessing that they're correct in these plans. I haven't looked at it directly I know it will be handled appropriately per the federal civil rights statute that is the ADA and by the city of san rosa and um You could you could read up on that a bit if you want. I'm sure you could check in with the city's uh, building department or the accessibility group at the city to understand that Why why you're seeing what you're seeing so um, okay with that said if there are no other Public comments at this point. I'll close the public hearing bring it back to the board for questions of the applicant Board member step I don't think I've got any I don't get any questions at this time comments, but not not questions Okay, great board member Sharon I have no questions. Thank you Board member mcqueen I have no questions I have one question. I just want to I want to address this. Um Just because I I know it's a public interest I don't know the answer. I do know that there's a 14 car parking reduction in this portion of the project um, I was curious because I think over The course of time as we've seen different portions of the project Different pieces have been under parked different pieces have been over parked Is there a good sort of analysis of where we landed at the end of you know, three phases With parking if you took all three phases together Are we are we at the parking ratio? Are we under the parking ratio? Is this sort of a third ask at a discount what I just am curious if between The applicant and perhaps staff we could get a read on all three phases because I think they are so tied together That's the real answer to the question Oh, I see christine. I was going to mention that We could pull up the previous staff reports and and take a look and report back out In a few minutes That that's fine, you know, I mean from my perspective in order to get a project of this, um scale and of this Concentrated amount of housing in a in a in a critical need area. It's great and I'm okay with more parking reduction But I just I just was curious to ask the question as to whether or not there was you know At the end of the day when you take all three phases, where do we where do we land? So But we could move we could move on with our comments, um And Sean just real quick on behalf of the applicant. Um, so At phase two, I know we requested and received a parking reduction It was within the 25. I don't know. It's the exact number Right. Um, and I was not a part of the phase one entitlements Although I was part of the team that constructed it and I believe there was also a parking reduction also within The allowed reduction by code for that. So what I would say is In totality the three phases Do still have a net parking reduction Within the 25 percent what we did do though before we Um entitled phase two is we asked the management company who is going to manage phase one Is this an appropriate parking amount based on The company is fpi and they manage thousands of units across cal mostly california So we asked them based on the projects that they manage in this area and the broader bay area is this an an appropriate parking amount based on what you see In real time and they signed off on the parking that we were proposing and they also Signed off on this parking amount for phase three Yeah, so that's how I would kind of summarize That's great. I just you know again again from my perspective I believe that the parking reduction is an appropriate response to Getting these projects built getting more units in and also to go forward environmental concerns and the realities of Of how we're going to do things differently moving forward and I don't want to and this really you know Is an appropriate amount of parking just wanted to hear that there wasn't some you know funny math That uh got us to something below What is the what is the code allowed? Uh, and I think that might be a state A state issue but bottom line We're within the appropriate amount of parking for the entire project and that that was my question So thank you. Yes, you're welcome With that I'll bring it back to the board. We have uh, we have About 25 minutes, and I think we're kind of we're well on back here, but I do want to jump into comments So let's cut to the heart and and not repeat comments But before we jump to those comments, uh, can I entertain a motion? From a board member, uh on the resolution I can Go again double dip tonight I would like to make a motion of the design review center city of santa rosa granting preliminary design review Approval for the 38 degrees north phase three apartment homes project located at 2660 head luma hill road Assessors parcel number 044-051-055 file number prj 21-011 parentheses dr 21-026 and end parentheses and I will waive further reading of the text Okay, can I get a second? I'll second I think board member staff beats you to the buzzer there Oh, I I'm gonna give you the second Yeah, you can have it You're gonna be the friendly amender again. Um, I'll be the friendly amender. There you go So so with that with that I will go to the board for comments Um In discussion on the motion on the table regarding the resolution board member staff. I'll I'll start with you Uh, well, I don't have extensive comments. Um, um, I'm very positive about the project And in in contrast to to public comment I drive by this development Regularly, and I've always been it's always caught my eye This is the first time I've had a chance to review it in this way So I'm coming in late, but I've watched phase one go up And I'm glad to understand a bit more now about what the what the other phases will entail It it comes across as a very, um, a welcoming and clean design I don't have any any specific comments in terms of how they handle the massing or the layout It looks like a good use of sight Um, and just as a side comment it it was very interesting to read through the traffic reports And also the and also the the mass transit addition to this site as well Because obviously traffic traffic and public transit are both key issues And it was just I I was glad to to get up to speed in terms of how that's being handled here Beyond those comments, uh I would just thank the developer for putting together a really attractive project. Um, I'm I'll keep I'll keep watching it being built. Thank you Great Thank you board member staff board member Sharon Yes, thank you vice chair, um And uh, yeah, uh, thank you, uh applicant team for for bringing phase three. Um, yeah as as board member step just mentioned, um you go past this Um development and phase one is looking great. Um, it's really great. I mean it was immediately um fully tenented it looked like and, um It's well used and looks like well loved. Um, yeah, I go to um Both driving down pedalume hill road and hiking at taylor mountain See this, um, there's a very, um, stephane asset to the to the neighborhood over there. So very well done and um I think that yeah with you know phase two under construction and this phase three, um the design Uh, not to to there are really no feedback on it because um, it is going to fit in very well It's it is the third piece of the whole and um, I think you you guys have master planned out the entire site very well I love the those, um cross phase agreements where everyone can use all the amenities And uh, yeah, I I think um, so it's a great development. So, um Really great to see, you know the final total of uh, you know at the end of christine's presentation the final total of Of of housing units that are being added to the stock with with this project and interesting to see that it first came Was submitted and was a june or july of 2017. So even before things we lost a bunch of stock in in in town But it's uh, it's really great to see that this whole um project, uh Being realized, um, there's the one piece of feedback. Um, and I just want to bring it up by that We saw that phase three last year. It was uh, you know, definitely brought up in almost, um, if not unanimous and nearly unanimous uh concern or um Just felt like a missed opportunity with the with pulling out the Any grocery store or any bodega? Um, there was an opportunity there. Um, and we uh We brought that up and and had a fair number of comments on it. I understand the reasons why I was taken out but um still still kind of Looks like a missed opportunity, you know looking at the further development not here, but with other developments Um, we definitely need housing and we need Housing to be to be added in both infill and a new new planned developments Um, but we also need to um at the same time be bringing in support Support services and amenities to um our developments as well um, so that's sort of a general comment, but um Yeah, the phase three looks great and I really look forward to seeing this fully developed. I'm really excited to see Um, you know that open space preserve and the bridge going across. Um, I think it's going to be a really, um A really great, uh addition to this uh this full development. So thank you Great. Thank you board member Sharon board member mckew I am supportive of the comments of my fellow board members and uh, appreciate the fact that uh, the applicant has You know got a great design driving by on pennilomere hill road I too are impressed by the Uh, the design of the buildings and I do appreciate the fact it's needed housing And uh, I am supportive of the project Thank you Thank you board member mckew my my comments echo Everyone here, you know, I I believe I saw the first round of this Going going all the way back. It's been a great partnership here with the developer in the city and a lot of uh, you know, the the the projects have become easier and easier to work through as the We understand the plans. We understand the quality of the outcome. We've seen that in with our own eyes so it's really easy to um Take a look at the plans and listen to this team and and appreciate what they're going to do Say the same thing that that adam said and I know I'm speaking for a couple of other members of the board who aren't here, but um The complete, you know, the loss entirely of the retail still stands out as a disappointment overall in the project It you know that approval That that comment doesn't necessarily come from the design review board. That's a that's a use issue Um, but I do think that I want to just be on record And I think we said the same thing the last time around That I just think there's a number of us who want to be on record that we want these projects to really work And I know it's an inappropriate use of the term. It's not what it's not the true meaning of the term But you know the idea of a food desert or a services desert Where there becomes too much distance to sort of the simplest version of a of a of a of a Convenient of a convenience store at a minimum. We I think we all like to use the term bodega it seems to have a little more personality than a circle k, but Something I know that there was a broader retail Approval originally As future developments come along, I think there's a number of us who are going to be real vocal about making sure that some kinds of services and those things stay in these projects and That uh, we we do add those so really From since 2017 this relationship for five years and the amount of housing built on this site That's attractive and well managed and well maintained and I expect that will go into the future Um, this is a again, like I said a really great partnership with the city of santa rosa And uh, we'll look forward to seeing this phase get built We know it will because you guys have been on the mark And gotten these projects to market quickly every time. So those are my comments and at this point um, I don't see anything that came up in the in the Discussion as a condition. So I think that unless there's any other comments from the board We are ready for a roll call vote Somebody somebody's muted or scrambling I don't hear anything did we go too quick? Yes, are you waiting for me? We're ready for a roll call vote. I am so sorry. I apologize. It's okay You guys are too fast for me this evening and I thought I thought we were stuck on a sandbar somewhere. I don't know Okay, board member mickey I Board member sharon Hi Board member staff Hi And vice chair birch Hi Okay, and that passes with four eyes with um, chair weigel being absent Great. Thank you so much. Thanks. Thanks again to the applicant team and the staff We will look forward to seeing this over on pedal limit hill road soon And uh, with that, um, I my agenda. I lost my agenda here Do I have anything standing between? Um This meeting and and item nine that would be adjournment if that's right Uh, nothing else. Um standing between those two so adjournment would be next All right, excellent So I'll adjourn the meeting of the design review board and thanks to all of you uh board and staff We will see you in a couple of weeks All right Thanks everyone. All right Every holiday