 As many of you probably know, how me and Rassus got started in this whole online business entrepreneurship journey was with self-publishing. Back in 2016, it's allowed us to live in a place like this, give them a little 360. Crazy shit. Every time we talk to someone and they're like, wow, I want to do what you guys do, we always recommend them to also get into self-publishing. But one of the most common questions now is, you guys did it two years ago, two, three years ago, and it worked for you. But if I get started now, will it work? People don't know if it still works and just, they're afraid of the big thing called saturation. People think that publishing is saturated and we're about to sit down here in Gavin's room and tell you why saturation does not exist right now in publishing and why right now is actually as good a time as ever to get started in publishing because of audiobooks. So let's talk about that. Is publishing saturated and can you still make money with publishing in 2019? That is the big question we are going to cover in this video. Okay, keep going on vibing with it. That was a nice set. But is that a really nice healing sound? I can fucking feel it in my balls. Is this static? Okay, okay. Whoa, that was a trip. Here we go. Is publishing still saturated? And specifically audiobook publishing. So let's just get out the way and say our opinion and that is that right now is a good of a time as ever to get into publishing. Fuck no, it's not saturated at all. At all. And the people that have that mindset, I'm just like, oh god, like what do you... You think it gets ruined in like two months? Yeah. Like what do you expect? We just went zero to 10K in five months. But not everyone knows that. So we're also talking to people that don't know that. Well, we just did that. We started from zero back in September and made over 10K here in January. We'll get the Income Report. In audiobook royalties. Not profit in audiobook royalties. Because money goes into creating these audiobooks. But yeah, quick background for people who don't know. I started publishing back in 2016. Rather started a little bit later in 2017. We're doing it for over two years now. It's what has created this life for us. It's gotten us into the online business space. Got us into Lifeline Entrepreneurship. We both have a lot of success with publishing. And we're both very passionate about publishing. And spreading the message about how great of a way it is to get started online. And have the freedom to be able to quit your job. And actually live life your way. This will be a whole other video that we talk about. But yeah. And also, why now is as good of a time as ever? The reason is because of audiobooks. Audiobook publishing being mainstream. Has only been around for like one to two years. But traditional publishing. Traditional publishing being e-books and pay-re-back books. Has been around since like 2010. No, before that 2008. Wow, so it's like seven, eight, ten years now. Okay, so that's been around for like ten years. Audiobooks around two years. And even traditional publishing. E-books and pay-re-back is still super profitable. Even that is super profitable. And traditional publishing literally has ten times as much competition as audiobook publishing does. Meaning like the amount of books that you are competing against in the store, the Kindle store, where you're selling your books. There's ten times as many with e-books as there is in audiobooks. It's a ten percent fraction. Yeah, you know what's weird is that I talk to my friends and it's myself. And like everyone I meet, we get into another conversation of publishing. And I just ask like, how do you consume information? Everyone is like, it's audiobooks. I don't even know anyone that reads e-books or pay-re-back books. More so fiction, but not non-fiction the way we would. Like the sort of shit that we're into. I listen to audiobooks myself. Like I know, and like everyone we talk to as well. We were sitting at dinner the other day. And we were like, who here has an Audible account? Everyone did have an Audible account. Eight people at the table, everyone had an Audible account. And everyone listens to audiobooks. So we have multiple videos talking about why audiobook publishing is better than the traditional publishing. But that's not what this video is about. It's talking about like, is it saturated? Is publishing saturated? Audiobook publishing is saturated. Because a lot of people have gotten into it recently. And then these other people, naturally, I mean, I don't blame you. They always think one of the first thoughts is, am I too late? Yeah. Am I too late to the party? And it's a fair thought to have. So this video is just to reassure you and explain to you why. No, you are not too late to the party. And if you're interested in learning more, just first link in the description down below. We have a free training. We do audiobook publishing. We show you how to do it. And secondly, get straight to the course if you want to skip all the bullshit. Yeah, if you want to skip all the bullshit. No, I don't want to rant on why audiobooks are so great. But goddamn, it is a good ass fucking opportunity right now. To just show you the potential, last month in January, we had one audiobook. One do over $5,000 in just audiobook royalties. From one audiobook. Okay. About a month or two ago, we made a video about one audiobook that made $4,000 in two months. In two months. In two months. And then we bundled it and now the bundle did over 5,000 in one month. Yeah. It's insane. And we also have videos talking about why bundles are the greatest thing ever. All this stuff. That's a whole different subject. But shit has obviously changed in the last year. Yeah. Apologies not to say when it was a year ago, two years ago. No. Years ago. So the thing is, right now you can't publish shit books and expect to make money. Yes. The fact that that was the case before was bullshit. It was not a good way. It was too easy back in the day. It's just not a good way to do business. To come out with low quality shit. Yeah. And then actually get paid for it. And then be like, oh shit this is working. Let me just do more of that. Yeah. So that's how it was. But now, with traditional publishing, even without audiobooks, you can make 10K a month. Like I have multiple friends doing it right now. We're more just into audiobooks. But so yeah, back in the day you could publish shit books and make a lot of money. You could still make a lot of money now. But no, it's not shit books. You cannot do it with shit books. So you have to. If you do that, they will not make you much money. I bet you'll make your money back within a year. But of course that sucks. Yeah, you can't produce shit books. So right now the importance is in putting super high quality into every step of the publishing process. So yeah, to make a lot of money with publishing right now, you also need to know what you're doing. So you cannot just, like we said, push it out there. You have to know AMS ads. You have to know... Not for audiobooks. Not for audiobooks. Now I'm trying traditional right now. You have to know AMS ads. You have to know how to make a book actually stand out from the others. You have to... That's something that we're learning now. That's something we're learning now on our own publishing account. After two years, over two years of doing this. We're still learning. I've been doing it like, not every day, but it's always been my thing. I've never taken any time off from it. I'm still learning every day. Every single day. Like from we have booster calls. Booster call is this group coaching program that we have with like 20 people. We live stream and we just like talk audiobook stuff. And then after every call, I'd like a shitload of notes and like, fuck, I learned a lot. I've been doing it. So basically I think you never stop learning. Yeah. Which is an important way to be. Always learn, always optimize and implement. And never just think, oh, I know everything. But yeah, that 5k in royalties from one audiobook in one month really shows the upside of what can be done with audiobooks right now. Then I want to go into just the fact that having thoughts about saturation and does this still work. Thoughts like that will never help you. They will only ever self sabotage you. So you need to do everything you can to get those thoughts and that thought pattern out of your head right now because they will only ever hurt you. Cannot help. Is competition increasing? Of course it is. Of course it is. Just like every single other online business out there. Dropshipping as an FBA. I've named them all before. You know what they are. Competition is increasing every single day. The more you like have analysis project, which one do I start with? The worst position you're in. It's like that case with everyone but it doesn't change anything. People are still going to be making money with all these methods 10 years from now. Yeah. If you're asking yourself is the saturated, does this still work? The only thing that is going to do is one damage your confidence and when you don't have confidence going into like a business venture you're not going to go all in. You're going to half acid and then you will fail. So which is why it's important to go into it with the strong mindset. You can't go into it with this. If you're unsure then don't do it because it's not going to work then. You cannot be unsure. And so we're here telling you don't be unsure and this shit is still everything you needed to be. It's still such a silly way to think. Can I still make money with it? Oh no. I think it's fair to ask the question when you don't know. Oh you're right. When you don't know. But when you use some logic it's like well of course you can still make money with it. But for enough. It's not everyone. It's more like beginners and don't know how it works. It's more like people who have been in publishing for like over a year and they're like oh my business isn't growing. Does it still work? Then it's like no it has nothing to do with the market or the business itself. It's all fucking you. Yeah I was just saying that's you trying to put the blame somewhere. Yes and not take responsibility for the lack of your publishing business growing. Yeah exactly. I had one final point. I also have a point. I also have a point. So these thoughts of is it saturated and all that I feel like often comes at least for me because I've had the thought too myself. You just had the thought. It's okay. Often comes when you're doing cured research and when you're stuck in your own head looking for kinds of books of publishers like fuck I don't even know like I don't know what to choose. I figure I'm stuck in this box of keywords and I can't seem to find anything else. I've been there. But last night when we did cured research together as a group it was me, you and two others. Group cured research I learned is like really productive because you just get new ideas. Things that you wouldn't learn or think of on your own. It was a cured research party. It was a cured research party. I highly recommend if you have other Kindle publishing friends do cured research together. And it was like we like the best notes we've ever had and we're about to make a big order and like I can't wait. But what I want to say is after that session is like really reassured me like fuck there's so much out there that we've never tried. There's so much out there. So I have this document with over 100 keywords that we found and like I got support like okay I just I can't look anymore. I don't need more than this even though there were way more to go through. So many topics I want to make books on and so many that I know are just going to absolutely smash it. So what we're doing right now we're trying a lot of new things which I really am excited about. I think people are stuck in the... There's Keto. Paleo books. Vegan beginner's guide. A meal plan book. Cookbooks for vegetarians. Cryptocurrency. What else is there? I can't think of any more than that. If that is how you think then yes you will run into problems. And can I say why? Well because those are the ones we talk about on the course mostly. Those are the examples we use because they're just examples. And so many people have gotten into it for that reason. Never underestimate how lazy people are with shit like that. There are people that have found out our books and they're copying the fuck out of them. Yeah, exactly. I guess if you know ours are doing well then why wouldn't you? But still I can tell you why you wouldn't because you're a piece of shit. That's why. I have two fun things I want to get at before we end this video. First one is like what is saturation? People have the wrong idea of saturation. Saturation is not when there's more competition than there was last year. There's more people competing. That's not saturation. Like oh you actually have to put in work now to make money. That's not saturation. Oh I actually have to be good at it. Know what I'm doing and come out with quality content to make money. That's not saturation. That's how a fucking business should work. I want to hear what you guys say. What saturation is, is literally when you can't make money in the space even when you know what the fuck you're doing because there's just one million sellers of the same shit. That's when, and there's no way to stand out. That's saturation. And then the final question. P is when you know what you're doing it's very easy to still make money. Very easy. Just publishing is so easy. What's the last one? What's the last one? Send the final question to piggyback off of that. How long until I think or we think or anyone thinks that we will experience some saturation in publishing. Like for true saturation to occur it'll be 20, 30, 50 plus years. But like the saturation for the sake of is this still the best opportunity and is it worth it to get started? If I had to put an arm around it, five plus years. Five plus years? Five plus years. Well, traditional publishing has been popular for five years. Exactly. That's the thing. For ten years and you can still make shitloads of money in traditional. And you'll still have plenty of people saying, oh it's saturated, you can't make money with it. No, but they're just fucking stupid. Yeah, they're stupid and wrong. Yeah. Because there's plenty of people making a lot of money. Like that's what more do you need other than that? It's not an opinion. It's right versus wrong. We are right that it is not saturated and you can still make money. The other person is just like fucked up or something. I don't know. Or they just want to think that. So yeah. And then audiobook publishing five, ten plus years. Like do not ever have that thought. Because that's what this video is for. Now you know. Now you know. To just go all in. And that basically sums up this video and you probably forgot what you said before. But I remember you said at the end of this video you would jump off the balcony into the pool. Because I know my word. You know I'm doing this. Yeah. We are all doing this. In Gavin's room. We got a little balcony. We got the pool and the unicorns down here. Take off my shirt. Let's go. Let's go. And then. Now take your wild game. This button. Maybe we'll fast forward this. But yeah. And then we also need a magic emoji of the day. Something that goes with this. Are you doing a cannonball? Is it like a cannonball emoji? Or a dive? Give us something good. Or the exploding emoji. The exploding emoji. All right. We'll go. All right. Go.