 Put on your clothes people put on your clothes. We're live. Yeah Believe that Len would fire the coach. It's terrible. Yeah, why'd you fire the coach of the Cavs? You know what? I Just was not happy with him. You just wanted all the Russian hats to yourself. That's well You know, I thought it was really cruel to have him stay for Russian hat night and then fire So we just got rid of before Russia before you didn't want to build up his hopes Right, it was just you know, I mean you have a big Russian hat night on a Saturday night in Cleveland And then you got to let someone go. It's just not Both of those things. Yeah, you got it. You got to make your decision. So we decided your battles. Yeah Beatmaster is in the blizzard seems I'm so glad we've we've missed a lot of these terrible Terrible winter storms It's winter storm watch on Daily Tech news show. I don't see anything out here in California. How about there in Ohio, Len? right now it's cold but but clear and You know, it's actually a very nice day. How about you doing what's what's going on over there? Everything was fine until a moment ago. It's like a packet storm in here and the Wi-Fi is just oh Oh, someone's microwaving a burrito. Never mind Yeah, so you're also in California So, yeah, no snow here You know, we've got intelligence amplification. So by the end of this episode You will be smarter. Yeah, we could use my your intelligence. We could use that to actually avoid snowstorms Yeah We see some heartless no storms. Yeah, right. We could use the intelligence of moved, California People that avoid snowstorms Hawaii. I think they call those Canadians. I Love you guys by the way Love you loonies. Yes All right, he Jen on to oh Yeah, that was that that was Rogers doing I was all all credit to Roger getting her in here And it was great having her on Shall we begin the show then that's make a podcast? Good one. Bye Tech news a daily frontier to explain advancing technologies and how they affect you to seek out new Gadgets apps and pics of the day. These are the continuing missions of the Daily Tech News show But Tom and the crew can't do it alone to help keep DTNS on the cutting edge of news and lovable goofy Curmudgeonly commentary visit Daily Tech News show comm slash support to show your support. Now, let's hear that other theme song This is the Daily Tech News for Friday January 22nd 2016 I'm Tom married joining me today. Mr. Darren kitchen hack 5.org a check a 5.org How are you sir? Mr. Tom merit? It's so great to be here. I'm so excited We are doing so many fun things around here and I missed you man Yeah, I missed you too. How was that was your? Things fake def con was so much fun. I can't wait to tell you guys about it in nine months So def con does that what you're calling it? Oh? Hashtag fake def con Well, Len Peralta is here as well Len. We made sure to pick a real abstract concept for the show today Thank you so much for that. Thank you was it's a these are tough I like that you throw these challenges at me. It shows that you have some sort of You know you believe in me that I can do these things. Oh, yeah I actually I do I'm no kid all kidding aside like I never I never doubt that you're going to come up with something All right, well you you might get a chance to see Len and I in Seattle I convey you X will tell you about that a little bit later in the show, but let's start off with some headlines Bloomberg reports a transcript of court proceedings from Oracle's Java copyright lawsuit against Google Stated that Apple received one billion dollars from Google to be the default search engine on iOS Or at least that's how much they received in revenue sharing Oracle also claimed Google generated 31 billion dollars in revenue and 22 billion dollars in profit from Android Now here's where it gets interesting the magistrate not not the judge overseeing the case but the magistrate presiding over the testimony Initially declined to block the transcript from public view even though it had this confidential information And that's how Bloomberg got a look at it So Google and Apple asked the judge over the entire case US District Judge William Alsop to seal and redact the Transcript and the transcript disappeared from electronic court records at 3 p.m. Yesterday without any explanation So presumably he said yes Thanks to Abituele Kundal say for posting this on the subreddit I don't know. I mean the billion dollars in revenue just means like oh well Yeah, they people make a lot of searches and the 31 billion dollars in revenue from Android seems like a low ball estimate to be honest But you know, otherwise, it's just curiosity stuff. Yeah, but that 34 percent. We don't know which side that's on You know if it's Apple getting 34 right right 34% but like the whole idea that okay, so hey We told you something but we now want everybody to forget it that that's not you know next time Google goes to negotiate With the mobile provider to use their search engine by default. I'm sure they will legally forget the 34% thing Well, that's the thing and 34% that Darren's referring to is there was another mention of a 34% rev shoe share number in there as well and that's what the billion dollars comes from but Maybe what they can say is like well, that's not real That was a misinterpretation by Bloomberg show me the transcript The Financial Times reports Apple has hired Doug Bowman Not not David Bowman. He was from 2001 Space Odyssey Doug Bowman Who has been the director of the Center for Human-Computer Interaction at Virginia Tech? At least we think he was Apparently he's not anymore Bowman focuses on three-dimensional user interface design and the benefits of immersion in virtual environments is hiring follows Recent acquisitions by Apple of augmented and virtual reality outfits face shift Mateo and Emotion I think it's not surprising Darren that Apple would be working on a virtual reality product I guess my question is do we see the pattern of people are making MP3 players and then Apple comes in and makes a Really popular one repeated as phone repeated as tablet. Could they do that with VR? That's Tom You read my notes exactly I was about to ask you the exact same thing if because you've seen this them go from MP3 players the iPod and smartphones the iPhone and tablets the iPad I Was actually hoping you know just deep down inside I'm like rooting for the underdog basically anyone not Apple that this will be the first major consumer electronics like Superstar to go Mainstream it with adoption despite Apple. Yeah, it seems that you know, they got to get on that bandwagon So maybe we'll see you know the enthusiasts pave the way and then Apple come out with the one that's white You know a lot of folks have been wondering when the next test of Apple post Steve Jobs would be and I think this is it I don't think the the Apple watch was already in development while Steve Jobs was alive and it also isn't I Don't know. I don't know that the wearables market is the same as as the phone market No, the wearables market is like the e-tablet There the the e-inc you know reader market Especially the watch market like not everybody wants to watch and not everybody wants a VR helmet But there's a lot more excitement the VR helmet market just feels like the MP3 player market did at one point We're hoping it is. I mean at the same time we've seen this every year. We see yes Like I don't feel like anybody was really hoping 3d TV was going to be that next major thing either So but I do feel like especially from our prediction show everybody Wants this to be the next big thing. Yeah, actually, maybe you know, maybe we're damned either way We need Apple to make it the thing to drive it forward the I view I There's gonna be an eye somewhere in there the IVAR the four eyes Microsoft has begun shipping surface book and surface pro 4s with a terabyte of storage Boom, you could pre-order them before but they're actually shipping now They also come with a core i7 processor and 16 gigabytes of RAM in the US and Canada Surface book runs three thousand hundred ninety nine dollars surface pro for two thousand six hundred ninety nine dollars at those specs Microsoft also released a sixty dollar gold version of the surface pen that ships with the surface pen trip kit I'm sorry tip kit Available in the US Canada Denmark Finland Italy Norway Poland Portugal Spain and Sweden That's just supercharged surface, but to be honest I've been waiting for the surface book with a terabyte drive to take it seriously You know, I have been waiting for that as well as other things and this is Still not enough to make me take it seriously Because it seems like Intel did such an amazing job with our marketing with the core series be i3 i5 i7 That we forget that like two different i7s can be vastly different and i7 and an ultra book versus one in I don't know a gaming piece a laptop or a desktop is like, you know apples and oranges So I went looking to see how cool they upgraded it Maybe now it's a quad core and I can actually do editing on this thing and no from from in fact The only thing that I could find today when I went looking for it is a pothorats amazing blog where he Basically came out about what he's calling surface gate the quality control issues namely the fact that it won't go into deep sleep and Microsoft's kind of like mum on the matter. So maybe they fixed it in this version, but they're completely mum on it So good on Intel for marketing that makes everybody forget the fact that there's dual core and quad core Versions of the chip and updating my prediction that we'll see more gold crap that you don't need this year That's true man gold surface pen Okay, the tip kit actually seems interesting and I'll be honest for this size of a book I'm not going to use it for video editing So I'm less concerned with the processor than I am with the terabyte Well, so Adobe Adobe updated premiere to have gesture controls and touch and stuff So as I actually do like as a laptop. Hey, you know I need to be able to edit remotely and the fact that I could like in the hotel room kind of like Legally embed scrub through footage and edit that that's I don't know especially at $3,000. Yeah, and not at $3,000 But I do have techno lust for it regardless Australian Stock Exchange operator ASX announced it has purchased a 5% stake in blockchain developer digital asset Holdings ASX managing director and CEO Elmer Funk cupper believes blockchain tech from the company will help them reduce Cost time and complexity for post trade equity market trades In other words, they're going to use blockchain stuff in the ASX the United States NASDAQ is also testing blockchain tech on its private market where private trades happen They might make it public eventually Deutsche Burst and London Stock Exchange also building applications that use blockchain Or similar distributed ledger Technologies so this this is the wave. We are going to see blockchain like Technology in all of the stock markets is my project prediction within the next couple years probably what? Banks using blockchains Tom that's that technology the gain notoriety for its involvement in illegal drugs and prostitutions and assassinations on Silk Road Next thing you know, you're going to tell me that steam is going to use BitTorrent technology the stuff The gain notoriety for circumventing copyright of just about anything that can be digitized. It's crazy, isn't it? It's like it's like telling you that VHS won because of porn No, it's like telling me that no matter how wonderful the technology is that it's completely agnostic And as I know nothing in the world can be agnostic It's either black or white Tom the technology of the black blockchain is only used for Bitcoin And as we know that's only for drugs muggling so my prediction Banks are moving into drugs We're technology that's a whole that now we're going to do it in the territory, but Bring it bring it back Bring it back to people who are like wait a minute. What's the blockchain again? the idea with blockchain is that For Bitcoin what it does is verify the transaction happened without having to have people involved That part works really well forget about whether Bitcoin should be a currency is a currency What value it is the blockchain part? You know with a few exceptions like anything else works really well at verifying transactions So which is why these stock exchanges want to use it because they're like we pay a lot of money to have this complex old-fashioned System for verifying transactions if we could just have a piece of technology that does it automatically Score yeah, and then let the banks get into creating their own currencies So they don't have to deal with some nation-state stuff. What I got me some Bank of America coin Can I trade it for your Wells Fargo coin? Oh, no But then we go back into the 1700s where you're like, oh, I only have Chase Bank coin hold on I'm gonna take those here. We don't serve your kind Supey 777 wanted us to note that Melbourne based VPN provider Uflix says some of its users have reported an error when trying to access non-Australian content on Netflix while using their VPN The message read you seem to be using an unblocker or proxy Please turn off any of these services and try again and within a couple of days of noticing this Uflix says it has a fix in place I mean Tom how many times do we have to say this IP addresses on neither people nor locations? I mean don't get me wrong. It's good on Netflix for now being available in what 190 countries Some like that. Yeah, seriously though fighting Right, that's like that's like whack-a-mole though and then I I totally get that would have flex has to do the due diligence thing and you know show the Content right holders that they're you know taking this seriously, but seriously. Yes, that's just you're asking for some whack-a-mole So well Netflix has been speaking out of both sides of its mouth on one hand saying like we can do this But people will it'll be a it'll be a game of whack-a-mole. They've said that And and yet they've also had to come out and say but we're going to do it because we have legal agreements That we have to to abide by and and a lot of people have talked about this In fact text message with Nate Langston had a great conversation about this on their last episode the thing is Even if I'm traveling like if I'm a US citizen and I want to access my US Netflix while I'm in Italy the license holder doesn't want me to do that because they're only getting paid for the rights in the US if Netflix is able to show me the that film in Italy but but a different provider Let's say Amazon is paying for the rights to show it in Italy even though I'm paying Netflix the fact that I'm watching it in Italy Violates the rights it gives Netflix the right to show the movie in Italy somehow if I'm able to do that And so that undermines the agreement with Amazon who think they have the exclusive rights to show the movie in Italy Now if you're sitting there already saying yeah, but what does this show me in Italy? It's the internet you can do everything anywhere and that goes back to the fact that IP address is not a location Yes, that's what Netflix wants They're like let's get rid of these artificial distinctions that no longer mean anything on the internet But in the time for the time being they have to play along with that because they haven't been able to achieve that goal yet Well, then it begs the question You know if you went to Italy and used your VPN to get to a network share that you had in the United States To play a movie is that different than having an on-demand service? So like is Netflix your big hard drive in the cloud where you can play but back the movies or is it an on-demand service, right? No, if I own the movie I own the right to watch it wherever I want But I don't I may not have been able to purchase the movie wherever I want I can imagine it doesn't matter because at the end of the day Sony pictures in the meeting with I'm just picking on Sony but in the meeting with Netflix is like Yeah, so we want you to implement the system and they're like, yeah, but that's not how it works It's gonna be my whack-a-mole and then Sony going cool. So whack the moles Yeah, whack the moles so that we can charge Amazon in Italy or whatever The first installation of Google's high-speed public Wi-Fi for India goes live in Mumbai in a Mumbai train station today The next city is on the list for the partnership with Indian railways and rail tell our ilahabad Patna and Ranshee hundred stations are expected to be hooked up by the end of the year on the way to a total of 400 so, you know municipal Wi-Fi we thought it died in the mid-2000s, but it's taken the rails by storm in India No, it's making a huge comeback. I'm really happy for this. I first one I read it one of the things that that jumped out at me was the idea that at this train station You would only get one hour of high-speed Wi-Fi and after that it would kind of slow down to kind of encourage you to not Just like leech there all day long and it reminded me of what they do at many airports like SFO here You can get 45 minutes of free Wi-Fi and then after which oh, that's right. You just have to change your MAC address So I was like, ah, you know another fun thing and but no they're actually Google's really stepping it up taking another step forward It seems like their captive portal requires authentication through SMS which is like wait Why would I need a second factor of authentication to get on a public network? But no it seems like that's done just so that they can verify like oh well. We already texted you today, you know You know take the train to the next platform or something. It's pretty cool I can't wait to see what security researchers find of this as we've see more and more public Wi-Fi being deployed like in the Lakes of New York City There are obviously inherent risks in any unlicensed spectrum technology where anybody can be both a station and a base station Yeah, good good thing to pay attention Yeah, yeah state back Japan display announced it will begin mass production of OLED panels in 2018 Japan display you may think what that rings a bell. Why do I know that it was formed in 2012 by combining the display units of Sony Toshiba and Hitachi and it is majority owned by the Innovation Network Corporation of Japan And that is the innovation fund that is attempting to purchase sharp and we told you about that on a previous Daily Tech news show Why this all matters is there are rumors rampant that Apple will need to buy a bunch of OLED screens sometime around 2018 So Japan display would love to have that contract and sell a lot of OLED screens to Apple Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure how I feel about this Do you think that sharp should join or hold out and how do you think that would affect? Sharp's got a cell sharps in bad shape. So somebody has to buy them Japan display is trying to keep the company Japanese as we talked about on a previous episode and so Hanhai the Foxconn folks are also trying to buy it because they already have a Lot of Apple contracts So it'd be awesome if they had sharp and can make a bunch of OLED screens And then sell them to Apple along with everything else Okay, so then the competition in that case if sharp went with Japan would just be Japan v. China Well, yeah, but I mean it would be a Japanese owned company versus a Chinese open company But don't forget LG makes OLED panels as well They had Samsung makes OLED panels as well. So you've got some Korean companies in the mix as well Jay Nomadon notes that six US senators wrote a letter today objecting to the US FCC's definition of broadband as 25 megabits per second or higher Senators point out Netflix recommends only five megabits per second for HD video and that Amazon only recommends 3.5 megabits per second for its video Senators believe quote the use of this benchmark discourages broadband providers from offering speeds at or above the benchmark Six senators who signed the letter were Roger wicker of Mississippi whose top donor is Cox communications at $34,500 and Comcast gave him $12,500 Roy Blunt of Missouri Whose number six donor is Comcast at $30,700 Corey Gardner of Colorado his number 19 donors the American cable association at $17,000 And then Steve Danes of Montana Deb Fisher of Nebraska and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Corey Gardner of Colorado I think I mentioned one of those twice. Yeah forget Corey Gardner But Steve Danes Deb Fisher and Ron Johnson do not have major ISPs in their top 20 donors according to opensecrets.org Tom I'm actually I'm getting some breaking news here. It seems that US politicians are in the pockets of mega Corporations I for one am astounded by this new revolution. Well, apparently three of them aren't Apparently in this case in this particular. Well, I mean the Koch brothers are big investors in the other three But that doesn't have anything to do directly with ISPs. So You know, that just causes a lot of people to lose their minds when you start talking about politics, but yeah, I Think it's an interesting point. Let's let's be fair I think it's an interesting point that your minimum recommendation is five megabits per second The Verge pointed out like yeah, but if you get 25 Advertised you're probably only gonna get 19 in practice And if you have more than one person watching a video Then that five, you know might not actually make it and then we talk about Wi-Fi and lag You know need a little bit more. So I don't know I I do think personally that 25 megabits per second seems like a reasonable definition of broadband Yeah, no 25 is today, but it won't be tomorrow and that's Here we could leave it at you know five megabits today, but in 2020 if we're looking back at it That'll seem like dial-up We got an email from Tyler who used to work in Chuck Hagel's office before he became Secretary of Defense And he said it really does help if you write letters To your representatives they they do pay attention They have assistants who who who make briefs of like what people are writing about Which ones wrote actual letters which one sent emails? So if you have a position on what you think the definition of broadband should be you might want to write your senator It's almost as if it's like for the people and by the people it should be and you know what in and all Fairness this has been updated over time. I mean originally or not originally, you know way back when In the early 2000s it was 128. That's ISDN. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing, right? What is acceptable internet forget broadband? Whatever is going to continue to get to need to be faster over time It's because we're doing more with it and that's going to happen for a while still that we also keep Mistaking throughput for speed. I mean nobody's talking about the you know 30 millisecond lag that I'm right What's what's the FCC mandated definition of latency? Yeah, exactly I don't know if you can get a headshot with the P90. I See it's pretty good. I would love to see the FCC to find that that way that'd be awesome Finally le TV the Chinese company that invested in a lot of things including Faraday motors, which we heard about their electric car at CES First of all it has rebranded as let echo for let echo system It also announced Thursday It will bring two of its devices to India the le 1s comes February 2nd for 10,999 rupees it's about $165 us and the 6.33 inch max pro comes February 16th for 32,999 rupees that's about $500 us company will also open a research and development center in Bangalore Just showing after Huawei Xiaomi Apple all and Google all Doubling down on trying to get into the mobile market in India that everyone is seeing that the Chinese market is starting to Stabilize if not stagnate and India is where all the growth is for mobile people Right you've seen more about this The Faraday motors the electric car thing. Do you do you feel like that's is that real or is that just a ploy to get kind of the Smartphone stuff more in the news. No Lay TV has a streaming service. They make televisions. They make set-top boxes Their investment in Faraday motors is because they want to sell technology into that car eventually whether that concept car Becomes a viable competitor for Tesla I think has less to do with le TV's Investment in it and more to do with you know whether there's a market for that sort Yeah, it just feels like I had never heard of this company until the car thing. Yeah, they kind of launched them into the public consciousness That's for sure. Cool. Hey, thanks to everybody who submits stories in our subreddit It is extremely helpful if you're not one of them become one of them Go to daily tech news show dot reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines I'm at Jingran CTO of Apigee wrote an opinion column on wired today called forget AI The human friendly future of computing is already here And he talks about intelligence Amplification now he's talking about it in a very practical way I found an article by George Dvorsky who who wrote for I own I'm back in May 2013 Talking about it in a very futuristic way But there are essentially two kinds of amplified intelligence or I a intelligence amplification Assistive and integrated so what Dvorsky was talking about was integrated where we like put a chip in our brains to make us smarter and have More capacity of to have intelligent thought What we're hearing about from Jingran in this opinion column today is Assistive and that's IBM's Watson. I am Watson is not a I It's I a because it actually takes what you know Tries to aggregate it and present information to you that we already know as humans It doesn't think about it. It just presents it and says oh, maybe this is relevant to you A good example would be a doctor making a diagnosis and Watson is used in the health field The machine can keep up on all the medical research being created by humans and then advise when relevant new information is available Something that a single doctor would not be able to do but the doctor still uses that to make the diagnosis They just she makes the diagnosis with more information than was possible before So so Darren this this I think is really interesting because we're focused these days It seems like so much on what is AI what what can artificial intelligence could do is it dangerous? For a I to happen, but it sounds like intelligence amplification just basically assisting us It could be maybe safer and more helpful Maybe I think that what we do is we see like you know the stepping stones in that direction Towards like the completely autonomous pick what everyone driving car and we see like oh, you know the lane assistant all of that stuff those But maybe perhaps I a Stepping stones as like oh, but it's not there yet So maybe really this article is about like a no be happy We have cool things now and don't just like constantly look towards the future and think what we don't have but So in that sense like I'm totally picking that up. I I asked the question Okay, Google are Alexa or Siri assistive intelligence applications and sorry to everybody's phone out there Okay, no, yeah intelligence amplification I don't know if they count they certainly are in the arena and and and why wouldn't they count? Just a little quick history on I a William Ross Ashby used the phrase and popularized it He called it. He's he talked about amplifying intelligence in his 1956 book introduction to cybernetics He was taking the work of people like Alan Turing and making it accessible for people to understand And it's a great book even today Man computer symbiosis was something that was written by JCR Licklider in 1960 talking about more of like a cyborg type of thing Augmenting human intellect a conceptual framework was written by Douglas Engelbart in 1962 and his Augmentation lab was thought to be a crock until he gave the mother of all demos on December 9th 1968 and if you haven't heard about this the mother of all demos in 1968 showed a mouse showed windows Showed collaborative editing teleconferencing and hypertext and that was all he considered examples of augmenting us with computers Hmm. See I hear the the man computer symbiosis and I wonder like okay, so I got my wearable JCR Licklider. I got my Google Glass and my Fitbit got my smartphone Bluetooth headset hollow lens bring it Are am I there? Am I doing it yet? I mean, yes I guess it's the mouse is augmenting our intelligence because it makes it faster to do stuff So I think what this means is if the computer is making it easier for you to be smarter And that's intelligence augmentation and our intelligence amplification But I think the state of computers now is such that it's not just the devices It's what it can do with stuff that you wouldn't have known on your own and that's changed over time We can do Google searches now, right? Intelligence amplification in the 70s would have been the ability to look things up for you, right now You don't have to walk over to the world book and look it up You can do it quickly So now it's being able to look up more things than you could possibly look up and pick the relevant ones Right and actually we're at that point where you know There's there's more information than we could possibly know what to do with so you almost need an AI to well In fact, we are the eyes that filter out the stuff so that we see only you know the stuff that's relevant to us Based on trends that it detects from our personality. I mean you were talking about a while ago I believe with with Beja the concept of a Gmail or Google mail auto response candid stuff like the three candid responses and The question is are those just going to be the same thing as like what you get with like sending a reply on a text message Or are they going to be custom tailored based on you know the rich history that Gmail knows of your correspondence with this person? And it's that it's those kinds of us of intelligent assistance That can take a lot of forms cars that do lane avoidance where they're like ah You're getting too close to that car in the next lane. We're just going to snudge you this way Even though you're still in control. You're still driving, you know We're going to avoid that collision that you're maybe not fast enough to see is intelligence amplification of a sword as well So it's it's a lot of different things and I guess the final question is and and you get different answers If you read Dvorsky who's talking about like putting a chip in your brain Versus talking about assistive stuff. Is this a better idea because a eyes can go off on their own, right? They don't need us and maybe they won't need us anymore whereas intelligence amplification is Putting us in the center and just making us the better intelligence versus creating a separate one See, I think that this is actually something that Hollywood needs to figure out because the perfect fodder I feel like when you get down to that question of and you asked this before and here's my answer it is a is I a more or less scary than the popular mainstream idea of AI and I actually like I a a a little bit better because what we're talking about is some like Robot that doesn't have a soul versus an evil genius with a layer who has motivation and But see that's the that's the problem with I a is that you can program an AI not to be evil And you could say well it could go wrong But the thing is you put parameters in there and that's what the Dvorsky article argues is you know You could you can set the parameter so it won't do certain things you can't do that with a person a person can become an evil Genius and do evil things and intelligence amplification of an evil genius doesn't seem like such a good idea. No, it's not fantastic It sounds like an Isaac Asimov thing that needs to happen all over again. Let's bring it Yes, I mean we've and we have this fascination with that evil genius that's got like, you know all the tech and stuff like that So this is just you know, this is just a really brainy evil genius. I love it bring it We should all be evil geniuses But your series and your Amazon echoes and all that stuff those those those are helping you that more and more to become more intelligent And I think it's an interesting distinction between like Machine learning is the idea that the machine learns but a machine can learn to think on its own Which is what AI's go law is or the machine can learn to provide you with better information Which is what I a's go well I would also argue that I don't think the lane assist is making you a more intelligent It's actually making you more lazy and probably a worse driver, but that that's just a different that's a different whole fair enough Fair enough. Let's get to our pick of the day. It comes from Basam in dusty Riyadh Who wanted to suggest Kareem as a pick? He said I've used it several times in Riyadh Saudi Arabia in that shell It's uber tailored for the specific needs of the Middle East now I'll let you go and read his article or his or it's almost an article his entire email in the show notes if you want but Essentially in Saudi Arabia. It's illegal for women to drive themselves If you have enough money you hire a driver, but if you don't Kareem can be a solution because unlike uber you can keep the car and driver as long as you like They'll wait for you while you go shopping have dinner and you won't have to wait for another car when you're ready to leave This is very convenient for women or families over here since they don't have to stand out in the streets Which can be quite hectic and wait for another car to show up that can go straight to the car They had before rates are based on distance driven and time spent waiting and they're quite reasonable and are not significantly more expensive than Uber which is also becoming popular in Riyadh the cars are about equivalent to the uber black car service with clean SUVs and Uniformed drivers, so if if you're in Riyadh You might check out Kareem. It's on iOS and Android and you can find more information at carem.com Yeah, I love the these services and the innovation that we're seeing in this regard I feel like uber is like tech applied to old-school methodologies like limos and more and more we're seeing stuff like this I just read an article recently about arcade city I don't know if you covered this but the concept of it's in the UK and it's a Decentralized blockchain based uber where there's not a central authority that takes all of the money It's all goes straight to the drivers and provide provides a platform for that. So, you know, this is just really cool I love that we're seeing more and more services like this Yeah, send your pics to us folks feedback at daily tech news show comm you can find more pics at daily tech news show comm Slash picks Komei wrote to mention two ways the show planet money suggested that autonomous cars could be introduced One involves the elevator the elevator refers to the time when the elevator companies replaced human operators with automated systems Does this sound familiar? Operators were driving the elevator without any safety mechanisms and there were very bad elevator accidents But people hated the automated system at first until they eventually realized it was safer And now we take automated elevators for granted in contrast the other way the planet money talked about was the autopilot effort Which allows humans to override the control and they point out that while this is used in airplanes and is very safe There have been incidents where pilots have Overridden the autopilot incorrectly for instance in the tragic crash of airfront France flight 447 So it's also not a perfect system either, but especially that elevator example really Got to me is because even though elevators You know they're not used as regularly as cars and there are not nearly as many accidents even in the elevator operator days It's the same principle underlying it, which is do I want a human to do this or a machine? Yeah, it's almost like we used to you know get around from place to place Using living breathing animals pulling a cart and then we switch to an autonomous version of that Or actually it's not autonomous, but autumn it what does the auto and automobile supposed to mean again? It replaces the horse it replaces the whole poor horse automatic horse No, but it doesn't know how to get back from the pub automatically. I know see that's why I've never I've never believed in these automobiles This is why you take your horse down to the bourbon. That's right. All right Uber for horses. Oh, I'm down. Are you kidding? Horse carriage bring it On us from Syria wrote in and said hey asked you asked if there were other Apple development centers out there So I looked around the only thing he could find was at a venture beat article It said an Apple spokesperson confirmed a venture beat that the company has one other iOS app development center in Brazil Though there's little information about where the center is located or when it opened But apparently that's why Apple was saying it's our first center in Europe Because they have one in Brazil hmm and Then finally since Wednesday Marty Dolan says my Google now has started talking in an Australian accent When I ask for the temperature I now get the forecast for Melbourne not Melbourne I'm sure Brisbane no longer has to be put up with being called Briss Bain Still no news on whether the weather for Briss Vegas or Brisbane land is coming in though You know I always get bummed out when they change this because I love the but I gotta anthropomorphicize the phone as if it has this Personality and this is just a trait of it and like it used to happen with my With my navigation on my phone that it would say that I have reached my desk Oh nation, and I'm like I love this nation the nation of desk. Oh, yeah You're headed to we're all headed to our to that nation I Want to be the mayor of desk. Oh nation Yes, that's fantastic. Thank you Marty for sending that along. I thank you Darren Of course as always hack 5.org a jk 5.org You have to wait nine months Not for a baby but for the episode that is a product of what Darren was talking about happened over the weekend But you don't have to wait nine months for the next episode of hack 5 No, in fact it just released yesterday and we're talking about all sorts of fun Things that you can do with TCP So if you would like to know about advanced net cat usage, we will tell you about advanced net cat usage And then you will know about advanced net cat usage Absolutely check it out a check a 5.0 Rg also with us today. Mr. Len Peralta Who is illustrating the show in fine fashion as usual Len? That is the largest brain you've ever drawn. Yeah. Yeah, I want with some low-hanging fruit here with a large brained man who is obviously the name of this print is called real brains win and It's a young woman who is obviously choosing the real brains over the fake brains and she's saying sorry Todd I guess I'm just in the guys who employ a superior amplified intelligence as opposed to machines that utilize an artificial intelligent mode Just call me an old-fashioned female human. I guess so. Oh, I love the droid His name is AI Across these like BB-8 and R2-D2's love. Yeah, I think it was our pre Star Wars talk there It's fired you must have been. All right. This is fantastic see Len. I knew it. I knew it You know plus all the people with big brains out there are gonna want to put this up on their wall That's right. You can't go wrong with big brains. I like big brains and I cannot lie Yeah, the other hackers won't deny Yes, Len Peralta store.com go take a look and maybe pick it up for yourself. 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Sorry. Oh, sorry. I forgot to take it off. No, it's not your fault. That was mine Always lock it on you for the for the view of the oh gotcha the thing and then I forgot to unlock it Thank you for these Show titles. Yes There's some good ones. I'm also hiding behind my logo because I'll be honest guys right now. It's Friday. It's been a long week I'm lying down And I can do that on the daily No one would have known Because you said your camera was broken. We would never know camera is broken because I'm lying down Oh Okay, so we have a Netflix and charge Which is not like Netflix and chill. Yeah, yeah current vote getter Gigabit or get out which I believe is a direct dare and quote Yeah, I was riffing on somebody else that said 1000 g mbps or gtfo mm-hmm There's a whack-a-flicks, which is you know We're talking about a game you played an arcade Let's see. Here's one through oh I see you had my intelligence goes to 11 If any time you get a little tap reference, that's for me. I Like the IA why are you and sometimes AI? Yeah I Netflix VPN whack-a-mole the game Parenthesis what you just lost that was my part. Yeah, okay, which you just lost. Well, you never lose Horses I want uber for horses Horace I Like I like I like big brains and I cannot lie. Yeah, it's pretty good There's a lot of good ones today. I like IA why oh you and sometimes a I I like big brains I also like the title. I like big brains and I can't lie We'll just let you guys vote. Oh good Vote while we level eight. Yeah. Yeah, because that's seconds seconds to spare This is this is the kind of one where we just have to let them figure it out because there's too many good ones I'm just gonna level eight and chill Does that work? Yeah, I don't know That's a pretty That's just gonna go down the wrong. I guess it's Hulu and hang out. Yeah. Yeah for backup. Ellie is beating up her dad Oh, she beats up her dad and she cannot lie She's just like punching Roger in the shoulder wapping him in a face Having offspring so that it can berate you All right, I like big brains IA why are you nice nice? Like big The other brothers won't be an eye maybe walks in put your Roger in the face She's so fascinated by Roger's teeth because she's just starting to get some right They're gonna look like that's gonna hurt Are they so yellow I know I'm not even looking at your teeth I'm just hey Tom on Twitter when we were talking about DJ Khaled yesterday Were you were you referencing that video where he's where he's talking about putting the hinges in the boys and did you know What I was talking about no, I did know who you're what you're talking about But I was referencing just his general snapchat. Okay. See I don't I don't see the snapchat stuff I just saw that that you smart you very smart video. I Watched a lot of DJ Khaled yesterday because of you guys talking about it Was like that guy is so rich and I've never heard of him before he has a chef an Elevator a jet ski and one of his friends has an island. Hey, we almost lost DJ Khaled at the end of last year Water skiing thing. Yeah, well that was the fate the famous one, but I was just like Everybody's so rich Well, well, I was sitting here working in my my little three-year-old son is in the other room saying and another one And I'm like hey does your three and a half year old have a DJ Khaled affirmations Well, he's got a follow call it on on snapchat Even if it's just for like a couple of days I Got the one where he liked his whole day was like down the elevator Whites up the elevator more eggs like They don't want us to eat eggs. So what are we gonna do? We're gonna eat more eggs Yeah, here we go, it's Colin by which I used to say wrong so Justin Corrected me here. Let's let's hear. We I can't see but let's hear He's pressing an elevator Let's see what she got egg whites. Let's see what she got for breakfast Egg whites turkey bacon we toast of course water They don't want us to enjoy breakfast. So have a healthy breakfast You know the man the man And doesn't want you to do us down. I thought like eggs are okay now like you could eat Yeah, that's that's why they don't want you to eat them because they don't want good things for you Hey man, listen to DJ Khaled They don't want you to have those eggs. So you know what you should do have those eggs You know, I'm sure that's sort of a DJ Khaled sort of thing Well, and he's also like seriously really positive like he's Motivate people to like, you know more success just get out there and do it. Yeah, he he changed a lot Nothing is given Is that what you just say to your kids when they like want money for something and you just write all you better believe it Hoodie keep better. They read this. Hey, nothing is given. You earn it around here Go do the DJ Khaled. Yeah Bless up the dishes bless up I'm gonna follow. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna watch him. Yeah, Justin and I littered yesterday's headlines with references to college If you follow him on snapchat at all, you will do will notice them All right, I am going to get going all right, man Everybody have a good Friday night dinner. I will I will try to figure out. I think we're back to spaghetti again tonight Yeah, we're back to it. We're back to it. Yes 2016 yeah first of the year the basics That's right. That's a I was going on before when you guys were talking about some instant. It's some snapchat stuff But now I know that the world is all right. That's right We gotta earn earn the spaghetti All right guys You guys were talking about oh you've got a you've got to take a look Okay, totally worth it even if just for like one day's worth Seriously, no idea how I would even take a look at what Just put snapchat on a phone. Oh, okay, and then instantly weird stuff will happen like that No, just fine, and then you follow DJ Khaled and it's DJ KHA LED Okay, that him as a friend and then just watch his story I'm sure one of the young kids in your office Yeah, oh my god wait There is something Darren does not know oh no, I don't I do not I do not understand Your social network I can social inject your database, but I can't understand it And I only learned about snapchat like a month ago, so I feel amazing. No, I live trust me I listened to all the episodes. I heard you getting on the bandwagon now that you're an expert for your birthday, right? Oh Gonna get a lay on the snapchat. Well, I guess I'll have to get snapping or something. Yeah, it's snapping Yeah, I hey I got on the slack You're on Twitter also identify that it's just IRC so you know you also are never in the slack Oh, I'm in my slack. How do I add to more than one organization to the app? Oh, you just you just add you press the plus sign. Oh I'm awesome at computers. I just thought you didn't really like to use it, so I didn't bother. No, no, no I'm slacking it up. We got a really Organization yeah, you can you can have multiple organizations in the app. Cool. Okay, I Totally understand Darren's kind of mindset though because like a lot of social networking tools are around Social things that you may not be interested in Well, it's like last night was trying to explain to me Twitch and It was like and the particular culture of twitch and it's like I look I've just figured out the culture of YouTube, okay And that's that's no small thing by the way. Oh, yeah, by the way, I'm not claiming to be an expert I'm having had to watch someone. I know The same thing over the last three years. Oh, yes. Yes, by the way, Tom's wife works at YouTube. Yeah, she does Yes, I don't know if you knew that or so says the t-shirt The oh, I haven't seen you in a rel yet Hello, my name is Tom Meredith. My wife works at YouTube. Oh my gosh, okay You know what I was doing driving on the way to Vegas. I'm so terrible I need to get your recommendation on that pod catcher app again because I ended up just using since I have Google Red, I just like downloaded all the episodes on YouTube that works too. Yeah And we'll know it doesn't because I'm downloading video for no reason What could have been a 20 meg file ended up being being you know, they ain't no service on Mojave Yeah, I've noticed that yeah Yeah, no, I use I like downcast on iOS because it allows you to reorder your playlist But on Android, I'm all pocketcasts. Okay, cuz I won't pocketcasts everywhere If it weren't for the if they would allow me to reorder playlists Pocket pocketcast is fantastic on Android. Thanks. I will grab pocketcast then Because your wife would be so busy working at YouTube you'd have lots of time for karaoke Hmm. Oh, you know hang on so with with a snapchat you post videos. I thought it was for photos Is there a length limit on the videos eight seconds? Oh Okay, never mind cuz I was like I just started vlogging again I've been putting like little one two minute videos up on my YouTube channel my personal one But no, I guess that's that it's not eight seconds How am I supposed to pay anything thoughtful in eight seconds? That's like a hundred and forty characters. Well, wait ready bless up What? That's up That's two words Darren wants to know how to convey something in eight seconds on snapchat So I'm doing this snapchat to say hey watch daily tech news show at daily tech news show calm And then you can hear Darren talk about it Boom. Oh, wow You just snapped that up. Yeah, I did snap that chat. I'm adding it to my story Wow, ten seconds. Sorry W. Scott is corrects me. It's not eight seconds. Ten seconds. Man If only I could have the attention span of a teenager You can by watching snapchat. I feel like I'm young again Actually what I noticed on snapchat because I was like soup I was somewhere yesterday, and I was like super bored and I can't remember where it was. I had to wait Oh, I was at the eye doctor and I was looking at the professionally made snapchat my stories Right like the ones for Buzzfeed and and taste made and all these places and I was like those are really great Graphical explainers and I was super curious as to how you would build them. Like is it just a photo? graphics No, they're partners So you have to have their partners with snapchat. Oh, wait, you're saying I can't do video editing and then upload a Video that have all you have to do it live. Yeah That's the whole point of that that majority of snapchat. The whole point is I'm capturing my life live Got it. Oh, it used to be I'm sending you an ephemeral message, which you can also still use it for hmm So it's grown out of like I'm gonna send you a message I'm gonna do a crazy thing that then it goes away as soon as you've seen it So I don't I'm not worried about doing it right because it's not gonna leave a record and your story goes away after 24 hours So again, it's like I spend all that time making something. It's just a real quick like hey guys. What's up? Mm-hmm. I Like how Darren is becoming less and less convinced as we go I'm becoming less and less interested to be honest To me all this stuff is about like are there people there who you want to talk to Okay, well, you know what we're gonna end the video broadcast. Thanks everybody for watching. No lip reading