 And if we can have all of our board members turn on their cameras for quorum. Looks like, if I'm correct, we have the numbers Macaulay. Awesome. You are correct. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. Thank you for all being here calling the committee of I do board meeting to order and roll call this evening is Madeline or Macaulay. I'll be taking roll call this evening. Thank you chair graves. Member Baldenegro. Here. Member Barnett. Thank you. Member Bartholome. Here. Member Lang. Here. Member Ram. Member Richardson. Member Rodriguez. Here. Member Square. Member Steffi. Here. Member Weeks. Here. Vice chair Anasincio. Here. Chair graves. Here. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Let the record show that all members are present except for member Ron and member square. Great. And we're moving right along to item number two, which is public comments. Next item on our agenda is number three, the approval of minutes. Does anyone have any comments, questions. Edits for those minutes. I see none. Do we have a motion. For the minutes. Motion to approve minutes. Those member Baldenegro. And a second. Second. That was member. I'm going to do it again. I was perfect today. Totally on the ground with you not here. So there was a second right there. And we will. We need to take a roll call vote with that. You will. Okay. Member Baldenegro. And you can abstain if you were not present at the last. At the last meeting. I was there. Super. Thank you. Member Burnett. Yes. Member Bartholomew. Yes. Member Lang. Thank you. Member Richardson. Sorry. What was that member Richardson. I said yes. Sorry. I thought I was muted. Thank you. You're good. Number Rodriguez. I believe you are not here. I was. Oh, I'm so sorry. Okay. Sorry. Member Rodriguez. Yes. Member Steffi. Upstate. Thank you. Member Weeks. Was. Here. Yeah. Thank you. Vice chair. Yes. Thank you. And chair graves. Thank you. And just a note. Member Burnett. Your. Audio is just really, really, really light. Having the discussions just so you know. Barely barely hearing. And lastly, chair graves. It looks like we do have a. Member square just joining us. Great. We want. Those approval of minutes is already closed out. So we'll pick up member square with the cab announcements, I believe. Yes, I'll work. Great. So you're right there. All right. Number four on our agenda is our cab announcements. This is where we, the cab members may share community news of interest to the cab as a pool. And it may announce upcoming community events that may be of interest to the cab. And remember the community is watching as well. And announce any departure. Or need to depart the meeting early. This evening. So. Are there any announcements? Don't see any hands raised. I see a few heads shaking. No. I just want to take this time right now. To welcome our new members. We have two new members this evening. Member Lang is joining us. Thank you for joining us. And congratulations on the appointment. And we also have a return member member weeks. I was joining us as well. So I would love. To give you both just a minute to introduce yourselves. To the rest of the cab. And you, you're running. At this point. If we want to go back through all the announcements that everybody to introduce themselves, but it might take a little time and we have a full agenda. So we might just add those in. And the meetings coming for. So member Lang, would you like to do intro? Sure. My name is Kirsten Land. I've lived in Santa Rosa for the last 10 years moved here by way of the East Bay and originally from San Diego. Grateful that an opportunity has finally presented itself for this commission. I've been watching it for the last 10 years and happy to be of service. Thank you. And I will now correct our pronounce your last name. So thank you so much for that. And number weeks. Don't worry. I mispronounce it all the time as well. And I'm her friend. So. Hi, everyone. My name is Cal. Or Cal weeks. Yeah. I was on the board. I think from 2015 to 2018. And it's a. I left to do my master's program and it's a. I'm very happy to be here, but I'd like to, to take a brief moment to also honor the fact. Remember. That it is a, it is a little tough to fill this role. Knowing that it was once held by. Our beloved Vince Harper. But I honor that fact. And I very much look forward to doing what I can to. To help the community in his stead. Can't fill his shoes. Not even close. But I'm happy to be here. I'm glad to be back. Thank you. Member weeks. A good transition right there to talk a little bit about filling shoes. And if you have one announcement. Just to make everyone aware that. The interviews for city council. District three are coming right up within a couple of weeks. And that's going to be on February 8th. So. Board members that represent district three as well as all of us. Hopefully we'll be watching that and be somewhat involved. And. Sharing on folks giving them a lot of support. It takes a lot. To put yourself out there. To not, not just run for a district. Council position. But to have to be appointed. And to be under the gun with all those city council members. Six of them right now. Looking at you and asking you questions for the evening. So I can imagine that's a little bit of a hot seat. And they'll be going through rounds and rounds of questions. With folks in order to determine our next city council representative for district three. So that's February 8th. Just want to bring that to your attention. And that is it for me. No hands coming up for an announcement at the last second. Doesn't look like. So. We'll move now to public comment on cat announcements. There are no hands raised for public comment. Thank you. We'll close that out and move on to number five, which is staff updates. And then we'll go. You have those words. Yes. Hello and good. Good evening, everyone. My colleague, Dave's here, director of community engagement. And I have two very quick announcements. One, as you all can tell, Danielle Galunio was not here this evening. We've had some staffing changes. We are down to staff members. And so she will be filling in some other roles. And so we'll move on to the next meeting. And then we'll move on to the next meeting. And then we'll move on to the next meeting. And she will be filling in some other roles. However, she still will be available to answer. You know, some of the questions pertaining to the cab grants, and we're actually going to bring her back in. I'm going to pull her out of her class later, later this evening to talk about the cab. Grants that will be discussed. And also just wanted to mention. I'm sorry to interrupt, but I'm sorry to interrupt that. And chair graves. I apologize if I, I missed your email on this, but regarding the choice grant review committee. There is a position that traditionally is open to cab members. And for those of you who are not familiar with the choice grant. It is part of measure O and we're talking about $750,000. And we're also talking about, you know, some of the benefits that are serving the community in different capacities that are assisting in violence, different violence prevention efforts. So that grant has launched. It does close to February 17th. But so if you know of any. Org local organizations that. Are working on pro social activities for you. Mental health services for youth and families. This is definitely a grant to look into. And we're also talking about, you know, some of the benefits that provide more information as well. On that. So that there is an opportunity for a cab member to join that grant committee. There are three designated dates already that we would need. The cab member to be sort of locked into to help us with that process. And then another quick reminder about cab member bios and photos for the website. And that is all I have. Thank you so much. Thank you. I can submit if you have not done so. Your photo and bio for our cab website. It's not a requirement, but it's a really great way for the community to know who you are. And that is all I have. Thank you so much. Thank you. And so. Questions from a golly. And they're also regarding the staff updates with the. Grant app panel and remember that she did say that there is a position there for. A cab member. The bond had emailed me about that. I would rather. Open that up to everybody. See if there's some interest by anyone. If there's not any interest. but I don't want to take that opportunity away from someone else or if you have a question about those that is member bios and photos for the website, this is the time to ask. So member Rodriguez. Well, can you share a little bit more about the graphs like what is there any dates or times when that commitment needs to be fulfilled for reviewing that grant applications? Yes. Thank you so much for asking that. And we do have one of the most important dates is going to be April 5th. That is when we will go through all of the applications collectively with the whole grant review committee. The two dates prior to that, and I'm going to phone a friend here, Madeleine, because I don't have it right in front of me. I'm so sorry. It is February 24th is the orientation for the grant review team, which is only just one hour and we'll just kind of go over the process with everyone. And then on average we get about 15 applications. It should take you about an hour to review each application. So then there's sort of that other time commitment of like on your own time going anywhere from 15 to 17 qualifying applications. So we may actually receive more, but those that actually meet the qualifications are somewhere around 15 to 17. I just have a quick question. Are those what are those grants due from organizations that are pursuing it? Thank you. That's a great question. And they are due on the 17th of February. And Madeleine actually, who's our host, is going to be receiving those. So if you have questions, she could definitely send you more information and she will be the person in her office receiving all those applications by the close of the day at 5 p.m. So. Correct. So they are due on the 17th, February 17th by 5 p.m., both digital and hard copies delivered to me in person. For the CAB member who would like to be a part of the grant review team, you would be receiving the RFQs on the 25th of February. And then your final recommendations for what organizations you would like to award the grants would then be March 18th. Those are the primary dates that you would need to keep in mind to be a part of the grant review team. And we can also send those dates out as well, the crucial dates to this group. A number of weeks. Do you have your hand up? Yeah, question. So why is it only one person from the CAB that reviews these? That's a great question. So traditionally the grant review committee has been sort of composed of somebody from the probation office, from police, somebody from the Santa Rosa City School. So there are certain organizations and entities that have traditionally participated in this process. And this year we're going to be bringing one of our young professionals. And that's going to be joining the panel or the committee, I should say. Thank you. And then there's where you have a question? I think it reads something along the lines of can someone put the link to the grant in the chat? Because it seems like there's some interest in this and people are asking about dates. So maybe there's something that people can go to a link or website that people can go to to get more information about this. Yeah, we can certainly do that and also put a link to our website so that if you want to learn a little bit more about the choice grant measure O and kind of how all of that links together, we can certainly put that in the link. Danny, can I have you put that in the link please? In the chat link? Thank you. Thank you. That was a great question. And it looks like he is on it to get that link up there. So it sounds to me like there may be interest on both getting this information out to potential applicants as well. Maybe there's a potential interest by a CAB member to serve. But I want to distinguish between those two things before you just send out everything. And I realize everybody could use the information to get potential organizations to apply. But is there anyone that put everyone on the hot seat right here? But is there anyone interested in being on that application in the new committee? No. I don't need to raise your hands all at once. I'm open to it. I just need to know what those dates are. And as long as I know what the dates are advanced, I'll be open to it. I've been a part of something like this before in college. But yeah, so it'll be interesting to do it again. Okay. Thank you. And we're going to work on emailing those getting the link on here and then also emailing the specific dates. Great. And just keep me in the loop. Number Square, understanding the time is super valuable if this doesn't work out for you to serve on that panel. I'll be the backup. I realize right now you're not committing yourself and just expressing interest as well. So I don't mean to tie into it. So thank you for all of that. I do have a question. If I don't see any other questions up there, is there still a need for participants in the Multicultural Roots project, you know, that was announced last meeting that there is a need for people to join the Multicultural Roots project and serve on that? Is that still needed? Danny, do you want to clarify that? Yeah. So I'm in contact with Grace Chung. She was actually someone I'm going to be interviewing for the Multicultural Roots project and she was someone I was following up on that. But technically it is open as of now. There's still a spot for a member on the advisory group. So I'll put it as that for now. Yeah, that there is an open spot. Great. I just want to repeat that information so that everybody hears that we've got new members on the board, as well as kind of a little bit of a public announcement that there are those spotters who open on that advisory panel. And my last question, actually too, mentioned earlier, Ben's Harper, we talked last meeting about potential memorial ideas for events and I didn't know the status of where that is right now. Is it still under review between staff? Yes, I think I definitely will check in with Danielle on because I know Danielle started doing sort of some research and talking to different staff about it. So I'm happy to check in with her and see if she received any for their information on that. Thank you. And the last one is Open Government Task Force. I couldn't find a date and I know that it's coming up soon as to their first meeting, I believe. I just wanted to make sure everybody was aware of that. Maybe we can circle back around later to get that information when we're talking about the charter review. We do have our Open Government Task Force meeting on February 28th at 6 p.m. There's a Zoom link and we will add that to the chat box as well. Thank you so much. That's all and I don't see any right hand being raised for questions from the ball. So I'll open this up to public comment. There are no hands raised for public comment. Thank you. And that's all closed out. Moving on to scheduled items now is when we will be going into 6.1, the Capital Improvement Projects Overview and Discussion. We have with us this evening, waiting patiently in the wings. Thank you so much for waiting patiently. Jason Nutt is the Assistant City Manager and Director of Transportation and Public Works. He'll be providing the tab with an overview of the Capital Improvement Projects known as the CIP program. So Director Nutt, Assistant City Manager Nutt, what do people call you nowadays? It must be confusing. I'll respond to it all. So you're all good. Thank you very much, Chair Griggs and members of the board. I appreciate the opportunity to come and chat with you today about the Capital Improvement Program priorities. And let's go ahead and move to the next slide. For those of you who are new, this is always the question is why the heck am I here? What is the role of the Community Advisory Board when it comes to the Capital Improvement Plan? And what type of feedback am I going to be looking for from the board as we work through this? So as you can see in section 10 of the City Charter, there is a component of the CAB's Charter requirement that says that you'll review the CIP budget priorities for each of the districts during the course of each budget season. And so that is the primary reason that I'm here. I will tell you having been with the City for a substantial period of time, the question, and I know that Member Barnett and I have talked many times about this, the question comes up is what does that mean? What does it mean to talk about budget priorities? And is it project specific or is it council-oriented priorities or is it generalized criteria that we should be addressing and scoring our projects by? We've gone around and around over the course of the last six years to try to really hammer in on that. And realistically, we've done a little bit of everything. Ultimately, what we came up with was really focusing and thinking about priority, thinking about how do we rate and contemplate how capital investment occurs with and around the city. And so I wanted to just take you through sort of how the city currently does that. Last year was our first opportunity to really talk in this framework to the cap and we did get some great feedback and we'll talk about that in a second as well. So if we can go to the next slide. So our current program for evaluating, oh well, let me just I'll step back and look at this. From last year's meeting, as I explained, we got some great, great feedback from the Community Advisory Board relating to, you know, when we talk about criteria and I'll go through our standard criteria that we usually use, the cab reported back that they really wanted to see us contemplate a quality of life element or looking at the equity of how the equity of how infrastructure investment is is placed throughout the city. Not necessarily focusing on district equity, but the idea of ensuring that there is some level of district equity. So we're not we're not only focusing in certain portions of town for long periods of time. And then there was a focus that came up talking about historic preservation and whether or not that needed to be a lens that we looked at our set or set of criteria that we should be contemplating as we're evaluating our our capital improvement program criteria. In addition, the other piece that I asked was, how can we better solicit this type of feedback? And there was definitely an interest and focus on small format meetings, thinking about going out into the neighborhoods. There was a question, there was a comment about creating more of an open media format, a place where we may actually have the ability for members of the public to comment on an open public website or provide feedback through a survey and then really providing the community with better information about the criteria. So so I took that information and tried to determine exactly how would we incorporate that into our standard process. And, and you know, there's a couple of challenges with this one, we're in the middle of a pandemic. So a lot of these components and an additional outreach ideas are really challenging for us to implement during the course of this timeframe. But but we also had some substantial changes in our city leadership, which caused us to alter and adjust our focus a bit. And so we did take this into consideration. And I will show you how we incorporated that here shortly, if you can go to the next slide. What our current criteria is to look at our asset condition. We look at our mandated and requirement and our required improvements. We look at safety, generally public safety. If we have a location that has a high level of accidents or we have a component of equipment that is in a hazard zone that requires replacement in an effort to ensure resiliency. Environmental hazard mitigation, if we know that we've got the potential for environmental hazard due to spill. For example, out of our treatment plant, if we have a particular location that requires shoring up to ensure that we maintain our environmental conditioning out there. And then a concept of funding. We have a number of designated specific funding sources. If it is money that is identified for the water enterprise that money can only be spent on water enterprise projects. Or if we have money that comes in from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, it can only be spent on the project that's designated specifically for that or a grant project. And so that does create an aspect to our criteria as we do our scoring because we'll have to put these projects in potentially different buckets and score them independently based on our funding source. But then there's also the concept of whether the project is fully funded. Some projects that we have aren't well funded. They've got money in there for the initial stages of the project, but they don't have money for the actual design or construction and implementation. And therefore that can also have an impact, especially if there isn't adequate funding available for us to invest in that for the upcoming budget season. Project readiness is one you would expect. Project needs to be ready. And if it's not ready, funding it doesn't really rise to the priority. We want to make sure that projects that we are spending our limited funds toward are actually ready to be released and put out into the streets and other infrastructure. And then lastly, it's fire recovery. It's how are we recovering from the 2017 Tubbs Fire, the 2020 Glass Fire. And that is quite frankly been a fairly all-consuming program over the last four years. And we're finally going to see some substantial improvement occurring here over the next 12 to 18 months. Next slide. But when I take that information and I try to incorporate the feedback from the community advisory board, we started looking around to say, well, who else has been doing this? Who else is looking at equity? Who else is looking at distribution of infrastructure? Who else is thinking about historic preservation and other more socially oriented criteria? And in our investigation, what we found was the City of Oakland had done a fairly significant program in 2018, mostly because they invested in a $400 million bond. But the bottom line was they wanted to see if there was a better and more organized and equitable approach to incorporating and scoring their capital improvement program. I spent some time talking with their implementing manager a few months ago, had a great discussion. This does take about 12 to 18 months to implement something like this because what they did is they actually went out into the community to try to understand what criteria like the cab provided me last year are the most important. When you take all of these things into consideration, is equity, should that be scored greater than condition of the asset than public safety, than a requirement to construct? And they heard some really important feedback. Generally speaking, their program turned out fairly similar to what ours is. However, there's a very specific focus on equity, health and safety, and the economy. And as an example of a well-functioning prioritization plan for municipality, it seems like a great template for the City of Santa Rosa to use. And I briefly had a discussion with Ms. Tejas about how we might be able to do a similar community engagement strategy. And I guarantee that I'll be having more conversation with her as we move deeper into this. Now that we've got a little more structural stability with our upper management and the organization at the City, I think we have the ability to be able to develop this level of focus and start to really create a prioritization plan that when I come back to the Community Advisory Board in future years, you'll say, hey, okay, I understand this. This makes sense. I know where you came from and I know how this came to be. And here's how we might make adjustments moving forward in the future. To continue with the example from the City of Oakland, next slide, please. You can see the way they've organized this. When they went out to the Community and they ranked and scored these, equity, health and safety, those were the highest priorities for their community. They wanted to make sure that certain aspects of community were incorporated at the highest possible levels for the funding program. What that meant is if you had similar and like type projects, a project that was in an area that may be underserved, that may have received less funding in the past, that may have a more diverse community that you're attempting to service or a more challenged community, depending upon the mode of transportation that they're required to have, you might see that score higher than a like project in another part of town where you have a far less diverse community with one of more means than the other, or one that may have received a far higher level of investment in the past. Each of these criteria that you see, Oakland has developed into a very detailed list of what they mean. There's definitions. There's criteria within those definitions. It's far more complicated than the very simplified table that you see in front of you, but the concept that they created, where you're actually taking the criteria that we have, which as you saw on the slide, each of them are evenly scored. Everyone gets one point if you check that box. Here, scoring is not equitable. Scoring is based off of the highest level priority for an organization to the lowest level priority, and that will potentially shift how we in the city do capital investment spending. Now, for those of you who are new to the Community Advisory Board and quite frankly, new to learning about how the city invests in our capital improvements, we do have a very tight and challenging capital improvement program. For the most part, out of our typical $50 to $60 million request for council, only about $2 million of that is discretionary. All of the other, the $38 to $48 million generally has a very specific group of projects that are eligible to receive those funds with roughly about $36 million of that as part of the water enterprise and therefore can't be spent outside the water enterprise. Another $5 to $10 million may be street-oriented. Most of that is focused on very specific projects or on our annualized pavement management program. The challenge we have is when we think about how this lens, this Oakland-style scoring criteria would be implemented, for the most part, it doesn't have a wide open palette of potential projects that could be incorporated. So that's something that's important to know. That doesn't mean council is not contemplating an increased spending, that's more discretionary. But at this point in time, I want to make sure that you realize that there is some limitation to how broad we can look at our program. So for this year, just to give you an idea, it's our intention that we to likely see somewhere on the order of about $140 million worth of programming, either where we're starting a project from the design phase or we're beginning construction. This will be one of the most busy years we've had in the long time. About 70 million of that is focused on fire recovery. The intent of this is to be at the end and to try to finish up projects that we hadn't anticipated previously, to try to restore those damaged communities so that we can get back to a pre-fire condition. We also have about a $50 million project associated with replacing our ultraviolet sanitation system out of the treatment plant. We expect that will go out to bid here very shortly and that will take several years to complete. But a very large project, probably the largest single project the city has invested in in several decades. So there's a lot of important and exciting projects that will be coming forward. And at this point in time, those projects were all listed and they were all, they were all scored through our traditional styled criteria. My hope is over the next 12 to 18 months, we'll be collecting feedback. We'll be collecting detailed information and we'll be creating a more complex methodology for evaluating and scoring our capital improvement program. Part of what that will include is the creation of a multidisciplinary team within the city that would allow all departments to provide input and to assist in the scoring. That's something we're not currently doing. Only departments that are investing funding are currently at the table. And we want to make sure that by broadening that out, that not only do we see a more balanced strategy on the scoring criteria, but potentially a more collaborative mechanism to ensure that public and private investments are being more closely tied moving forward. So that is where we've come from as far as trying to develop a prioritization program. That is an explanation of how we are currently prioritizing our capital improvement program. And so I would like to now if you go to the next slide. Well, yeah, I'd like to conclude and just say thank you and I am interested in hearing your feedback as to whether or not the potential example that we put on the table with the city of Oakland is a direction that might make sense for the city and whether or not that seems to align with the feedback that I received last year as well as the concept of what you're thinking this year. So with that, I'm here for questions and to listen to your comments. Thank you so much, Assistant Manager Net and Director Net. It's just amazing. I saw that presentation in our queue for the agenda and looked it over before this evening and was very excited to hear everything you have to say on top of that presentation that was available to us and I'm more excited now. I'm hoping that we have some questions from our members and I realize that some of our members weren't here when we met last year, but this will definitely be through to the thought a number of weeks and then the end is up. Yeah, thanks for the presentation, Jason. Related and unrelated, quick question. Thanks, Cherie, for for putting up the link to the Capital Improvement Projects List. I'm just looking over this a little bit and I just wanted to clarify real quick. Are these projects or the proposed projects? Are those ones that have already been vetted by the city and that they've gone before the city council? Because I see the bike overcrossing here, which I know has been talked about quite a bit. Yeah, so the list of projects that you're pulling up are the projects that were approved during the last fiscal year. I should say the current fiscal year fiscal year 21-22. And so what we're looking at right now is trying to develop that that same process for fiscal year 22-23. And that's why in the current fiscal year, you're not going to see the bike that overcrossing incorporated, even though it's a high priority for us, that is now that's a funded project that's moving forward. And one of the challenges that we have, if you remember in the presentation, I talked about funding and wanting something fully funded and something that shovel ready. I'll give you an example of where we've run afoul of that in the past. There are two critical projects in the south part of town. One is the Herne Avenue Winter Change. It is a $30 million project. I have about 50% of the funds in hands. And trying to find an additional $14 million has been very challenging. Since it's not close to being fully funded, it's very difficult for me to take the little bit of money that we have to try to invest in that because I have other high-priority projects in the queue that need that funding that can be spent in the next 12 to 24 months. And so while Herne Avenue Winter Change has been discussed for two decades and we've been struggling to get that across the finish line, it's just not something that I can incorporate into the plan. Similarly, Colgan Avenue reconstruction in the south part of town is one that was originally incorporated back in 2004-2005. It received funding right up front. They started the design. I'm actually at an 80% design completion. And I now at this point have zero funding to invest in its long-term improvement. And it's 20 years later. So the question is, should I put money towards that now? And this is where we have to look at, well, who's it serving? What community is it serving? What's the volume of that road? What's the safety aspect of it? How does that compare to what projects that I've run out recently, which is Pacific Avenue, Sonoma Avenue, Piner Road, and Calistoga Road? The volumes of those streets are higher. They take a higher and more regionally complex traffic. And therefore, those tended to score it with higher marks than Colgan Avenue. Doesn't mean Colgan Avenue is not on the list, but that's just an example of how we're running through things and projects are sometimes getting lost. I have asked staff at this point that we will not only complete and purge all old projects, but we will commit to fully funding and completing projects moving forward so that we don't have things like Colgan Avenue that are still sitting on our books 20 years later. And I don't know what the community feels about that road by comparison to other high-priority transportation improvements. So, Member Weeks, I hope that answered your question a little bit. Yeah, no, that's great. And ironically enough, that takes me back to my earlier years on the cab, and I think I was harassing you on a regular basis about Fulton Road, which does look better, but still some work to do. I have good news for you then. Fulton Road will be released for bid this year. That is a $14 million project that is consuming almost all of my transportation funding for fiscal year 2022-23. We're adding about $6 million to that to make it come to fruition and get that out the door. So Fulton Road between Gernvill and Piner will now be the full width that you see for the rest of the segment within the city limits. Wonderful. Thank you. And Member Rodriguez. Hi, Director, I'm a water nerd, so any water projects are close to my heart. I love that. But I did have a question. I'm going to your presentation, you're talking about equity and getting that equity lens. And I was really happy when you talked about a multi-disciplinary team. And can you just share whether or not that would include the City Equity Officer having Sucuro part of sort of providing feedback through these projects? It very likely could. To some extent, the SEED Collaborative is going to be providing us with a report that talks about how we would insert diversity, equity, and inclusion into our process. I would expect that they will identify our Diversity Inclusion and Equity Officer as a member of any review board that would see equity as a lens. So, yes, I would expect that's the case. But I'm really going to be focusing in on what the SEED Collaborative can tell us about what the makeup of these types of boards and commissions should look like from a review perspective. And so, more than likely, I will be working with Sucuro quite a bit to look at these projects in the future. Thank you. Do I have any other hands I see? Remember weeks, do you still have your hand up or is it coming up again? No, I'll see to the other members and tell other folks about a chance to speak. Thank you. And Vice Chair Innocentio? Yeah, thank you for the presentation. I was at the last at the meeting a year ago where we discussed some of these things. So seeing it come back around, it's pretty cool. I like seeing that, especially looking at things through the lens of equity and diversity. And so, is the proposal would be to, not proposal, but what you're thinking is kind of to use what Oakland is doing as a foundation and doing something similar here? It would be using their community engagement templates to determine if the way Oakland organized their criteria and scoring methodology makes sense for us here. To me, it looks good. I would expect that when we go to the community, we would find a lot of support for that type of measure. It's possible from a simplification standpoint. Again, I'm still getting to know Marikisha. And she may say, hey, that looks really great. Why don't we just go ahead and implement their template and their scoring criteria? And instead of asking to create our own, ask the community if that looks good. And so that's a discussion I have not yet had with our new city manager. But my expectation is to try to utilize that template to engage in our own conversation, to try to build our own scoring criteria. Because there may be things that are different here in Santa Rosa that aren't as, that are not lining up the same way as it would in Oakland. So that's why I don't want to say for certain that we're just going to go ahead and procure theirs and implement it. I'd really like to gain feedback from the community to see if there's another way of compiling that type of scoring mechanism. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's great. Because I think to the point you made earlier too about places like Colgan Creek or like Colgan Avenue. Another one is because something like Corby Avenue, right at Colgan Creek, there's no crosswalk there. And it's, I think from what I've seen in the community, it's when projects are long, long overdue and get lost that people, the community I think becomes discouraged and a little bit cynical. So I think if there's a way to call that out in Oakland's plan, it seems like there is for whatever plan we end up coming up with. I think that's great because we need to address some of those long standing infrastructure projects. But thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. And I think I saw member Barnett's hand up first and then Baldenegro the next. Welcome back, Jason. Good evening, member Barnett. Good evening. I'm like, I have, I'm like, I feel like it was an eon ago. We were talking about alligator cracking. What is that? And did you know that there's an alligator in your neighborhood and all the other cab members are going, what? So I am always appreciative when you come to present to our board for one of the main reasons that you take a very vast complex issue that is CIP and take it down to digestible bites for folks to grab ahold of. And in the criteria questionnaire, I don't know if I may have just not read it in the presentation, but something that came out of 2017 and the disaster recovery that was brought to this board as well as, I think, I think you were at the presentation, but social cohesion. And it was something that our former community engagement director was pursuing and it turned into a neighbor fest for this board. But I think that if we're talking about scoring and criteria for CIP and getting public impact and input, I think if we're going to talk about it, we're going to include disaster recovery. I think it's worthy of looking at social cohesion as a metric of measurement in the sense of, will this project, will this product, whatever we're working towards with the project and we're going to put a priority around it at completion, does it create opportunity for greater, stronger social bonds, social cohesion with the neighborhood that it interacts with is create opportunities for the city to create stronger bonds, social cohesion response. That is something that I'm just not willing, I'm not going to let go of because I feel like that is one thing that is very distinctive of our community that we can't ignore. Because I think that there's a climate reality that we're all facing and I feel like we got to talk about it and we got to talk about it when we're talking about things that have to do with our list of assets and our long-term strategic planning around projects. We've had this discussion before around Prince Memorial Greenway and the struggle that is the Prince Memorial Greenway and that there's all this opportunity around it and it was never funded with a long-term funding plan and we're paying for that now and so that's something that I think that if it can be thrown into the matrix of what you're looking at, that would be that would be my one piece. You know Member Barnett, I think that's a great point. Actually thinking back to some of the definitions that I read when I was looking in more depth through the Oakland materials, they just phrased it differently. Similar concept which is neighborhood building and ensuring that you're not creating barriers between neighborhoods but they are allowing distinction and uniqueness and so that's definitely something that I want to make sure gets inserted and I appreciate you making that statement. It's also an aspect that we're starting to hear from some of our large regional entities. This last year I served on Technical Advisory Committee with the Metropolitan Transportation Commission and this is exactly the type of concept that they're asking to insert in some of their grant programming for funding. It's a demonstration that you're finding a way of building bridges, not physical bridges but social bridges as opposed to re-establishing and entrenching communities in their own silos. So I appreciate you bringing that up and we'll certainly work that into our conversation as we go deeper into this. That great history, bringing up history right there with the CAB and the CRP program. Member Baldenever. I appreciate all the information you've provided to us tonight. I'm just wondering if there's a city that's comparable to Santa Rosa because the city of Oakland is roughly the size of the county of Sonoma and the city of Santa Rosa is about 180,000 so could you provide us with the city that's comparable to Santa Rosa in the research that you're doing and I've been in this community since 1975 and I've seen all the things that have happened and I'm hopeful that we can continue to move forward. So if we could find some comparable cities and that we can work forward to in a model, I would appreciate that. Thank you very much for those comments Member Baldenegro. I will tell you that I promised the council back in 2016 that I was going to deliver them not only a five-year capital improvement program but one that had a prioritization methodology to it. I have yet to deliver either of those two. Over the last five years I've been focusing on trying to identify a comparable organization with a methodology that made sense. I'll tell you I've developed three over the last five years. They are all extremely complicated. The models for some of these other cities don't work because they're not full-service cities like we are. So we started with that and to be frank we're very unsuccessful finding a program that we felt we could implement feel good about and that takes into consideration a broader more socially sensitive type of a valuation process and so when we I recognize that Oakland was big and I also recognize the reason they did this was because they got a $400 million bond passed and they had to demonstrate to the public that they were going to invest that bond money in a way that was consistent with how the voters approved it and this was the way for them to do it. We're in neither of those situations as much as I would love to have $400 million to invest. I do think that the general social concept and the construct of having equity as a lens is one that that we're being asked to contemplate. I expect that the SEED Collaborative Report will come back and make that requirement of us that we take not just age condition and mandate but that we broaden that to include that social aspect of our community so that we're not you know we're being more inclusive all the way around. So I know that it would be great if I had another city between 100 to 250,000 that would offer us a comparable and reasonable option but I will tell you I think using Oakland as a template and creating our own that fits the city of 180,000 I think we'll find that that we're very pleased with the breadth and the potential social equity that will come with with that process. Thank you. Give a thumbs up for member Baldenegro right there. Thank you. And up next which I do see three hands up right now the same guy saw member Bartholome with a hand up first I'll bring her forward. Thank you. Hello assistant city manager net and chair graves thank you for giving me the floor. I am interested in the part of your presentation that discussed Oakland's high level of community involvement. I would love to hear more about that because I think if we're looking to try to implement projects with a lens of equity the more participation we get from the higher number of people the more apt that is going to be to happen. And correct me if I'm wrong chair graves but at the last meeting we discussed a little bit about how how difficult it is actually to get the community to participate in in identifying these community improvement projects so I would really like to hear more about that maybe not tonight I don't know if you were prepared with that but I think that would be really important to bring forward to the board. Yeah I can't give you a whole lot of detail about their program but what I can explain is is I was informed they did about six months of directed community outreach where they went to the community where the community exists. They didn't necessarily always host a meeting and invite folks to come to them. They went out into the neighbors and the neighborhood. They received a decent amount of feedback. I wouldn't say it was overwhelming for a city that's twice our size. I would say that we could very easily accomplish the same amount of feedback. It was in the thousand range not in the in the massive numbers. And the community engagement that they did was was specifically and focused on the creation and development of the prioritization program. Once now that they have the program in place their community engagement is far more similar to the program that Santa Rosa offers right now where we go and meet the community at various events. Talk to them about projects that we have underway. Collect feedback and listen to community members identify other projects that we may want to consider. And we do our best to incorporate that feedback into an upcoming capital improvement program as long as it meets the criteria that we have. And so they're on their second year of going through this process because they do a two-year capital improvement program approval at council. And so their process now is almost exclusively internal. They do two touches once the plan has been vetted and they have a project list. And one is at a board similar to the community advisory board and one is at their council. So that's we can contemplate other mechanisms for gaining feedback and gaining community acceptance of our plan. But the primary community outreach effort really is going to be focused on the creation of that strategy that the community believes best fits our needs for capital investment. Thank you. Thank you for bringing that question up from last time as well. And now a member of launch is that you're not saying this practice. You're going to have to correct me so I can hear your last name and I can put that in my brain. Land, strong A, very German. I have a couple questions or things I want to bring up just based on your presentation. Thank you for pulling us together. I think it'll be really important not to wait on seed collaborative and or SACORO to apply the equity lens, but to look at the ways in which through your work you could be integrating an equity approach and a community centered that approach that could really help manifest the goals you're looking to achieve. It's my understanding that the seed collaborative's work will not be completed through the end for them until the next quarter. So that would delay an opportunity for you to make those explorations for yourself. Solano County's close in size to us Fairfield, Vacaville and Vallejo are three big cities, similar size to us that I think would be good models to take a look at or partners of lateral roles that could probably provide some insight and model close to the diversity and the disparities that we have in our community as they do in theirs. And I think that might be able to provide some solutions that could be scaled down from the larger scaled model from Oakland that could be applied to our community here in Santa Rosa. Having lived in Oakland for a few years, the living experience is very different. The community engagement is very, very different. And here I think because of the trauma that people, especially people of color have experienced, there would need to be a centered lens on a trauma informed community engagement process to encourage people to come to the table to know that their ideas will be safely held and executed. Instead of the traditional model that we've been seeing, which is thank you for your ideas, go do some more research. And so I think those are the pieces of feedback and suggestion that I would offer to you in trying to find a way to mold a large city model in conjunction with living in a smaller community. Thank you very much for that feedback. I appreciate it. That I will definitely take looking at that trauma informed lens to heart and we'll figure out how we can incorporate some of that thought process. I will say I'm an engineer. I'm a linear thinker. I try to believe that I can think outside of that line, but I am an engineer by trade. I work with a ton of engineers who are even more linear than I am. And we are problem solvers. And so when we think capital investment, it's the fastest point from point A to point B and the most rigid line you can make so we don't crack or fall apart. Over the course of the last two years, especially as I've been working with MTC on their program, I've asked staff to take a far less linear approach to their thought process. And let me explain an example of what I've done with them. Hearn Avenue Interchange, we've been working on trying to get federal grant funding. It was built and designed as a standard highway interchange. We promoted it as a bike and pedestrian corridor, even though it's now instead of a two lane wide, it's a five lane wide with five foot sidewalks and a class two bike lane. It's not necessarily, even though the facility is there, it's probably not convenient. And especially not convenient for a community where you generally have lower income, non-native residents who are not necessarily fully English speakers. And especially in the Latino population, there's an interest in having a more broad corridor to operate in because of the way the family units function. And I asked the staff to work with Council Member Alvarez and engage the community to try to understand if there's a better mechanism for providing that service. Because just because it shows up great in a manual doesn't mean it works for every population. And so they actually redesigned the overcrossing to include a class one multi-use path, something that's 10 foot wide that would accommodate families at a much different level than a class two bike lane and a sidewalk. And the idea being that that will connect us to the communities directly and make it more convenient and easy. So while I'm still an engineer and I probably don't speak the language quite as clearly and cleanly as I will in a year, we've tried to incorporate equity and inclusion and utilizing social diversity concepts into our linear thought process for project delivery. So I'm trying to incorporate that, recognizing we're still in the process of gaining our training on how to do it effectively and efficiently. And so between Magali's role and the role that we're going to be learning from Socorro as well as the SEED Collaborative, we're trying to educate, we won't take, we won't wait for the end, but it will take a while for us to be purely efficient at it. And I hear that and I appreciate that as a child of an engineer, I totally understand the line of thinking. But I do think it's important to think about the solutions and how they impact people and then designing from there. And I think it'll be really important as individuals outside of your professional roles to do that exploration, to help your thought process and not to task the folks of color to lead that way, but to partner with them to help guide you, to inform your learning as you're doing this design process. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Thank you. This was great information. And Magali, I see that you went up there in no number of weeks and still have a question, but I'm wondering if you have some information to share with Magali. Thank you, Chair Grace. I just wanted to quickly say and appreciate the question posed by a member, Lange, to get that. And I just wanted to mention that our entire, our community engagement division is very much in line with learning more about trauma-informed care and also race-based traumatic stress as it pertains to community. So we're trying to educate ourselves and our entire team so that when we are partnering and we are going out into community, we can sort of do it in the most sort of, in the best way possible, that's in line with community and what the most current research is, right? So I just wanted to mention that. Thank you. Thank you. And member Weeks, thank you for your patience. Yeah, no, it's totally fine. I was actually going to sort of touch upon what member Lange actually so eloquently just commented on and I appreciate that contribution because it is really important and far better job than I would have at addressing it. But one of the things I just wanted to add just kind of dovetailing on that is I know in the process of redistricting, we're definitely soliciting or encouraging people to identify as many communities of interest as they possibly can. And I'm sure this is already baked into our process or baked into your process rather, but I would just strongly encourage that we meet these communities of interest where they are. There are a number that have popped up over the years for better or for worse. And I think it's just really important that we try to engage at their location and in a sensitive nature that also takes into consideration what member Lange just provided us. So that's all I have. Thank you. Thank you, Member Weeks. I'll just mention that with the with Magali's role here at the city. I believe that our community engagement has increased significantly. I'm looking at the feedback that we've received on critical projects that have occurred and are occurring in the Southwest in particular. And we wouldn't have under our traditional methodology been able to do it without the addition of Ms. Teyes and her team and the angle that they bring to the conversation because they are bringing an angle that we would not have traditionally been able to identify, locate or connect with from the public works perspective. So I think we're getting there and it's really starting right now with Ms. Teyes and her team. Yeah, thanks so much for that. I'm still a little bit rusty on the San Rosa landscape, haven't been gone for for two and a half years, but I'd like to think I'm getting up to speed. And yeah, I really appreciate you guys going to, you know, a concerted effort to make that a priority. It's a little bit overdue and I'm so happy that we have Sikoro and, you know, other members of your staff actively working on this alongside with our communication folks. So it's great. Thank you. And I don't see any further hands, but I wanted to once again just thank you from last year and that meeting and being able to digest the information that you've was thrown your way and come out of it with a really clear process and a clear direction and also doing the work and the research that you've done and you put into it just is just kind of amazing for me to see it all kind of come back and you'd be able to share that with us. I have two questions for you. One is and I'll just say them both and you can do with them what you want. One is about that discretionary funds and I know right now we're just kind of comparing and contrasting with Oakland as far as that scorecard and you answered a little bit that they have gotten this grant, but what is their usual discretionary funds? I remember that you mentioned ours right now is about two million out of our out of your budget that you are getting. And the second question is really kind of a little bit a little bit farther shot at you. What is Cabsville? I know that you said that you've been speaking with Mugali and I appreciate that and respect that, but what do you vision moving forward that Cabsville is in a system you are getting that community going? Yeah thank you very much Chair Graves. I will say that I think you know in response to Vice Chair and in Asensio's comments the challenge with Oakland and the way with which they created this program is part of their focus is on a component of participatory budgeting where they actually have a section of funds that are set aside that make the community's perspective on investment strategy far more real to the community. We don't have funds to really do conscientious participatory budgeting process and so while we are looking for a mechanism to score that may be more inclusive of the community's needs and thoughts, our ability to be dynamic, flexible and really open to new on-the-spot projects is fairly limited. And so that's why that's why I lead with what you know for me it's bad news. Having two million dollars of flexible is very small and when I say flexible that's money that's specifically general fund and not designated by any other funding source such as gas tax or water enterprise or measure and parks so on and so forth. So because each of those come with some level of string and box that you have to work with them. So that's part of our biggest challenge and when we think about when I think about how the cab will be involved my expectation is that rather than trying to create some type of new engagement board or committee while we go through the community engagement process my suggestion would be and Magali and I still have to chat about this is that we would I would be looking to the cab to assist us through this process as the Council's designated board because it is in your charter to help us create this program that makes the most sense and one that we believe can have a life moving forward that meets the needs of the community and which means you'll likely see far more of me over the next 12 months as we begin to do community outreach whether you are out there with Ms. Tejas and I on this at a meeting meeting members of the community or whether I'm coming back to you with specific designated information as we start to formulate components of this program. So that's my expectation of where cab goes and then moving forward I will this is a specific and direct question that I have asked the City Council and City Attorney's Office to incorporate into the Charter Review Committee is is this really a long-term program that the Community Advisory Board should be a part of because it's been so poorly defined over the last couple of decades that the cab has been active it's hard for I think any of us to really understand what cab's role is what it should be and how it should be implemented and so my ask to the Attorney's Office and the Council is to either help better define what cab will do moving forward or to remove it from cab's requirement which doesn't mean I won't come back to you and talk to you about it but it just relieves you of the responsibility and the duty of providing me every January or February your feedback on our prioritization program thank you it's great to hear those conversations are happening and those questions are happening and looking forward to being part of the process and on all fronts so thank you for that at this time I don't see any other hands raised by members if we have any public comments Erin no hands raised for public comment thank you so once again Assistant City Manager and Director Nutt thank you so much for your time and not just tonight but really all that you do throughout throughout the year with all the challenges and information and just really really happy and really enthused moving forward so thank you so much thank you very much I really appreciate you all for allowing me to do this presentation and for all the feedback and I'll be you'll be seeing more of me over the next year have a wonderful rest of your evening thank you Chair Graves I believe you're on mute you're on mute thank you so much 6.2 we have community improvement grant updates and you know I saw that you have been with us for a while and you've been waiting patiently and missing a lecture probably while you're at it so thank you for joining us you're welcome a really really bummed that I'm missing the lecture on adhesion contracts right now so I'm going to get through this quickly I'm just kidding hi everyone it's nice to see everyone this evening Madeline if we could share that spreadsheet please so this was in your packet and I'm sorry it's it's small I think it's a little difficult to zoom in I don't know if we can zoom in but Chair Graves had asked for an update on where we're at with with the grants before we move into the quarter four decision making so we so here is just a quick snapshot of all of the grants that were funded in quarter two and quarter three which have been completed and which are still open as well as which CAB members have signed up to be a project liaison so I will just make a quick note that in quarter two for the quarter two grants the community matters safe school ambassador project and the L C L in high school campus and mural project have both been completed and they have submitted for reimbursement and as most of you may know for our new members the CAB grant program used to run as a reimbursement program so we would approve the grants the different community groups would implement their projects and then submit receipts for reimbursement we got approval from the city attorney's office to start issuing the grant funds ahead of time once the the grants have been approved by the CAB starting in quarter three so quarter two is that last group there that is going to be submitting for reimbursement moving forward all community groups that get CAB grant funding will receive a check up front to implement their projects so then moving along quarter three grants we actually have had a couple grants our projects already completed and that includes the food for thought COVID-19 nutrition program grant the historical railroad square association their holiday horse and carriage rides and then on the move Santa Rosa Dia de los cuarentes projects all three of those have been complete so again they received their funding already they have submitted their final reports and the receipts to backup you know is backup documentation in the columns for assigned CAB member I think we're good on the quarter two grants those ones already have an assigned CAB member to be a project liaison we still have some actually quite a few that are open for members to sign up for I know member Barnett you'd already signed up for the the railroad square one but they they beat you to it they finished their project so if you would like to take a different project open to that this is not a requirement you do not have to sign up to be a project liaison some groups don't need one it's only if they're open to having someone and it's really to be that connection between just between city you know the city and the whole process so if they have questions regarding filling out their final report or any paperwork you know we don't have the the invoicing anymore so you wouldn't have to help them fill out any of that paperwork but just making sure that they have all the documentation turned into us and then if they want assistance with implement implementing their project you could potentially help out with that but that's up to them to decide if they'd like that assistance so that is an option if CAB members want to sign up to be those project liaisons that is that's up to you guys so that is all I have here for this and I'll turn back over to chair graves to see if we have any questions great thank you thank you for the update and do we have any questions from members and member Bartholomem how do you how do you sign up do I just contact you chair graves or Danielle do I contact you you okay just contact me okay yeah we got one I love to see liaisons to these I was going to mention I think that it's also a great way to build relationships to potentially have groups be able to talk about their grants experience to other groups get more groups to apply and to bring back the information and report it to the CAB and the greater community so with that and a member Stepney yes thank you hi Danielle I just wanted to reiterate that it's so important I think that we have a liaison for all these projects I know for me I joined CAB last February and I really felt like I was just kind of floating on the ether or not doing anything helpful at all for my city mainly because of COVID so thank you COVID for that but when I actually became the liaison for the mural at LC Allen Weaving Cultures I went down there and I connected with them and now we're connected and I feel like I'm actually doing something tangible as my member of me being a member of CAB so I'm just like a cheerleader for I think we should all sign up and because of my signing up I'm helping with weaving cultures now I'm doing the FOMO project also another another project at LC Allen so anyway I think it's a great idea and it's made me feel like I'm actually part of the CAB so for the newer members I think it's really important especially during COVID to have that connection with with part of the city that they were helping out so that's my two cents worth yeah and you also just reminded me that one of the other things that is super helpful when we have project liaison so member Stephanie was able to go out to their their mural unveiling and take photos so you have an opportunity to go out arrange with the project leads to go out and take photos or videos of the project and we can utilize those in outreach materials for the program exactly and it was cool on my behalf I was able to see it during the process and also the final unveiling I got to start I went and took photos a few other times again I was longing to get connected with the city because we've all been home for so long so thank you for the opportunity thank you thanks for following through with that and member weeks I didn't know I don't know if these are posted on the website I suspect they're not but is there any way I could get you know essentially the applications or the information surrounding these projects sure I will forward you and and our new members all of the applications that we received we have a google google folder whatever it's called I don't know I'm not technology savvy we have a we have a google folder for all of the the grants so I'll forward you the links for that you might have you might have sent that to me I just don't remember so I do apologize if you did okay yeah I could definitely share all of the previous applications there is a list on the website of all of the funded projects and actually I take that back well there is the google folder but they're they're also all linked in previous cab agendas so I'll send those as well thank you I was itching to say that but it was in previous agendas because I want the public to know that they're all there for public information always so I don't see any other questions just again to reiterate if you see a project that you want to be a liaison to just contacting y'all with that information and she will have that up there and hopefully as we have we as we have had these liaisons going for some time now maybe in each agenda when we have our cab announcements if you do have any information about your project that you are liaison to you can share that information with us during cab announcements I just want to remind everybody of that if there is any I know I'm a liaison but my projects haven't gotten off the ground quite yet so I'm looking forward to it though and without any other questions we're moving this to public comment there are no hands raised for public comment thank you we'll close that out and bring it to Danielle once again for item 6.3 and the q4 grant application selection right so this quarter we received two grant applications um so uh you may have a little easier of a time I don't know we'll see we have first one from the common ground society they are looking for a thousand dollars to fund work that they do in hospitals for families who are have members who are hospitalized they'll be utilizing these funds to purchase gift cards to local restaurants and gas stations and as well as hospital bags with supplies for those families and then the second application is from generation housing and it's for their pro housing yard signs project and they're looking for funding of $2,500 to print 100 yard signs in full color double-sided and this particular project is it looks to me like it's a we'll call a will-building campaign to kind of generate just you know public will positive public will around housing so just the one note that I want to make about this is that we have never had one of these types of applications before as far as I know um we the cab in the crap cab grant uh there is nothing listed about um public will building campaigns being eligible um so that is a decision this evening that cam will have to make as to whether or not um they would like you would like to um to fund uh such such a project if that is the case then please note that you will have to open that up to uh future applications for any other public will building campaigns so just want to make that note um so with that our our recommendation is definitely yes on the common ground society application and then again I turn it over to the cab to um to talk about and make a decision around the generation housing application thank you Danielle I hope everybody got a chance to really look over those applications um and I see uh two hands raised right now and some member weeks first uh hi thanks um so procedural question for Danielle Magali full disclosure I am an employee of generation housing so so what's the process here you need to recuse yourself from voting on that application now do do I have to like leave the room can I stay here oh okay I wasn't I wasn't sure what the process is for this okay um you should also sorry you should recuse yourself from voting on the item as well as any discussion pertaining to the application you can still be in the room you just can't talk about it okay good as long as I can still give people that you've lied we're good yes thanks for that I appreciate it um and then the second I do see a hand up but I think the member more all the member might have a similar question I'm a new generation each uh proposal I would thought you I thought you were a board member so I thought that was a similar question to member weeks sorry for assuming I made a bad assumption right there um thank you for for already posting your opinion member steph yes thank you um but just FYI on the common ground society I'm familiar with them because I have a family member who's used at youth services and I'm really glad the city has suggested that we say yes to them on the um the other one the housing I totally agree with the mission of that organization but I feel like starting to pay for things like signs is a slippery slope that we probably don't want to get into um and also just because I care about the environment these signs can't be recycled at least not with our our provider here locally so I just feel like while they have a great mission and vision it's just I think signs are just not a business we want to get into funding my opinion thank you thank you and vice chair in a sense here so I'm a board member for generation housing so just wondering if there's anything that I should or shouldn't do there um I think this has come up before but I just want to ask the question again so I think that this is an interesting question did the board have a hand in um filling out the application or any any part of putting the application together I can answer that to my knowledge no it would have been completely under our operations director okay and were you aware Jorge so uh this is the first time I've been made aware okay okay I think that you're fine I think it's if you had a hand in um if you have a draft staffing position and you had a direct hand in um and actually creating the application so okay thank you can I just uh make us adjust and then Danielle that we maybe look further into that just because in terms of other um granting processes that I've been a part of um when someone is a board member that also is you know sort of taken into account in terms of if folks need to recuse themselves so um let's definitely look a little bit into just to make sure we're following all the rules yep yeah I and I do remember there was a board member question previously that we that we didn't recuse um but that doesn't mean that that was necessarily a standard operating procedure we should be going by so just acknowledging that right now um and uh I I don't see any other hands raised I'm going to make this suggestion if there would be a motion I do see member Burnett uh would you like to go before I say what my suggestion uh Danielle my question when I read the grant application so I know the city of Santa Rosa is very explicit in that we cannot be in any way promoting a political campaign and the grant specified that it is not about a campaign it's just about the conversation around housing in Santa Rosa my only real concern as a cab board member is that there's no sample of what the sign was going to look like there's no graphic so I don't know what they're going to stick on people's lawns and if it's just a conversation piece around housing or if it's just branding for the organization or just the website with some branding okay but my that was the that was the thing of like not having a sample I was kind of that was my one thing of like okay see what they're doing totally within reason it's conversation campaign I can pull this to that that could be neighborhood building sure without having this sample that was my one thing of okay but that was my question of usually when you have something like this they give you a template or a proof of design or a concept that tells you this is what it's going to be so that there's no question that it's not directed towards a campaign or a particular thing that we're campaigning for you know you know i'm saying like that was my one question about like that they didn't include the sign so hold on just a second here I am going to see if I can do this oh I can it was hidden in the application and I apologize that it didn't it didn't stand out so they did put a link in the application to the website you had to go to order a yard sign to see the actual signs at the bottom of the form there these are the signs right here so you've got one for artists one for caregivers construction workers first responders fitness instructors instructors was I think it's interesting this is my former Zumba instructor grandparents there's a couple in their grocers hairstylists musicians nurses servers and teachers so those are there's 13 options there um so I apologize for not pointing that out and making it really clear but it is it was there in the application well that answers my question thank you you're welcome and member range um I think it's in close you'll get there you have to excuse my okay my language abilities here it's okay um I I think it's a good cause but I do the thing that stuck out to me is that it would create a new precedent and I don't know that that's something we want to set or like go down that rabbit hole given the capacity of what the board already has to do so I just want to like elevate the thing that stuck out to me the most um as far as like process setting and maybe if if not financially supporting if there's a way to elevate through whatever mediums we have um a newsletter or social media to highlight that folks can request it um if we're not in a position to fully support it I just want to break that up thank you I was going to make the suggestion um if there would be a motion to separate these two grants in our voting process so um just in case if there is any other discussion I haven't said my my comments yet um and I'm just holding those back just to see I have I've heard some discussion and some questions around the gen the gen h application packet but no questions um only support for a common ground although um just you know I second your motion chair graves hold on I don't know that it was a motion completely but hold on um you don't have to make a motion to separate the grants you can make a motion to vote on common ground first and then you can make another motion once you get to where you decide you want to be with the gen h one so I just want to say we don't need that first you know a motion to separate them okay thank you yeah I will hold voice uh motion to vote on the common ground application for the community improvement grants at this time second I think we already have a prior hold hold on a second sorry member Rodriguez has her hand up so yes okay I signed in there at the last second member Rodriguez well I did have a question about I had a question about the common ground application and just real quickly if using um the funds for gift cards is like a gift of city funds or anything questionable about that no I love that they provide okay it's allowable um great thank you yeah great clarification thank you so much so my motion stands at this time and I remember Baldenegro had a second but it wasn't a complete motion yet so we'll go with member Barnett's second and then we'll go for a vote prior to a vote I believe correct me if I'm wrong uh Danielle we do actually have a hand raised for public comment that we will need to listen to prior to vote thank you thank you thank you okay Gregory I'm going to go ahead and share the screen here and get you a three-minute timer all right Gregory you can go ahead and unmute your mic thank you um you all know that I'm in favor of housing and you all also know that housing funding and housing production um isn't everybody gets everything they want I have to compete against folks like JNH uh all the time for homeless housing when um they're really looking to fund what I describe as the missing middle or the upper class low income uh there's not enough money to go all the way around and so basically uh we're all competing for the same dollars so if you guys support this I guess you would be open to my putting lawn signs all over the city promoting homeless housing um you know I it's a little dramatic that I'm you know making this point but you know once we start down the road is saying who you choose to give a grant to to promote city consciousness or city will or a city uh enthusiasm um you're making a statement over what kind of housing you support uh and I'd like to see some more discussion about how you can do that without taking sides and I think you know supporting JNH this is the first I've heard that JNH would go after it but they're brilliant people and I applaud them for getting you to give them city money to you know try to bias the neighbors in our community in favor of what I define as you know the upper class lower classes like clearly we're all fighting of the same problem which is nobody can afford to live here but if you're going to say projects supported by JNH and remember those projects are mostly 80 thousand to 150 thousand dollar incomes they're not you know I haven't seen a JNH supported project but it's going to get anybody who's homeless into anything um and Jen Close will admit that they're not going after the same folks that I'm going after uh so I just wanted to point that out all right thank you very much thank you there are no other hands ready all right thank you for that and um I just want to remind everybody that our motion was to vote on the common ground application packet um they we will continue our discussion about the JNH application after this vote so at this time can we do a roll call vote okay member Baldenegro yay member Barnett right as my husband has a sneezing fit yes sorry all right remember Barthalo yes yes member Lange Lange sorry um member Richardson yes sorry I couldn't get the zoom to work member Rodriguez yes member Steffi yes and member Weeks I want to confirm that we can have member Weeks vote on this one for it's it's it's separate shot so I should be in the clear um but yes I am in support thank you vice chair Anasensio yes chair graves yes okay I just want to confirm did we miss member Square did he leave oh I'm so sorry it looks like you left but I just wanted to confirm thank you I apologize yes um member Square is no longer present okay all right perfect so it looks like that vote passed thank you very much yes thank you and continuing the discussion on the JNH application don't see any other hands and I really reserve my opinion until the end um and I'm just going to present that now I saw I saw a number of questions and I'm happy to see other people questioning this as well um but in the JNH application although their mission is stated other places on their website is being different than this um it says on their application on question number one and paragraph number four that the hashtag we are JNH campaign is a mission to build public and political support and it continues on it also does talk about the overarching public will of building of the public will building campaign but that that campaign is under a marketing umbrella um and as we saw those pictures that Danielle shared JNH is is prominent on those that signage and I agree this would be opening up a bit of a a bit of a quantum a bit of a can of worms for future applications I could see others potentially applying not just for yard signs but potentially billboards and other marketing materials um and I think that that while we haven't stated anything specific to not have that in our uh in our grant process in our applications uh it undercuts a little bit of the the good intention and the will of our grants that we are providing to the community for community and I also want to state personally I am all for housing but I want that housing to be equitable so um and I want to serve all of the community so uh at this point in time I would be voting no on this application is there any other questions or comments I vote no as well sure Grace thank you remember Alden and how did you do that with being muted it like you just was so quick on the unmute mute how you do that um so do we need a motion on the floor so that we can all vote yes it's all motion that we cast a vote on the status of supporting this um proposal from dinner h housing thank you I second that proposal thank you thank you okay member balden agro no i'm sorry but at this point do we need a public comment because this is a separate vote I mean we can open it back up but um if if members of the public have already made public comment on this grant they can't do it again correct thank you just in case there's anybody else out there thank you appreciate it there are no other hands raised for the generation housing thank you and now that thank you member balden agro no member barnett yes member barthelot no member lane i'm so sorry you'll get there later later no thank you member Richardson i'm gonna vote no member rodriguez no his member square returned I don't believe so no member stuffy no member reeks recuses and uh vice chair anasincio um I thought there was a little bit of um unknowing from whether I should or shouldn't abstain so I'm just abstain to be safe um we're not safe but just to make it you know thank you and chair graves the motion to fund the grant application for generation housing does not pass all right thank you and I believe that closes out our q4 grant application uh selections at this time thank you Danielle for for joining us for all of that guiding us through going back to contracts see you guys later and our next agenda item coming up here is item number 6.4 charter review update and the next steps for the cab priorities discussion. Magali do you have that for us? I do um there were three questions posed at the last cab meeting and uh we are working with the um charter review committee and our c attorney to to get those answers um so one of the questions was around the timeline um and so the committee the um charter review committee is looking to wrap up in late April or May so um the second question was how can folks get involved how can cab or community members get involved in the charter review and there's um one of two ways that folks can do that um the first way is to attend a charter review committee meeting and they are every other Wednesday evening from five to seven p.m on zoom and so um community members could make or cab members can make a public comment to you know add something to the agenda or add something to the conversation um and secondly if you cannot attend the meeting you can submit your comments in writing to our city clerk uh Stephanie Williams uh or city attorney uh Sue Gallagher uh or um Patty Cisco who is the committee chair um we will put in the chat box um our city clerks um Stephanie Williams her email um so that we get you we can get that information over and then the uh sort of other question that was asked um they're hoping to get the committee calendar the the charter review committee calendar up on the website very soon and it'll have proposed topics identified by date so that uh community can know what are uh what's being spoken on when and just sort of as a reminder the top three um set uh items that are going to be discussed are the direct elect mayor ranked choice voting and council compensation so at the last charter review meeting um there was a lot of uh great conversation about um having a direct elect mayor and what that would mean sort of pros and cons um also including sort of the equity aspect of it so if you have a chance I would really recommend um checking out the link I believe that's all up on our YouTube page because it was uh very sort of lengthy uh great discussion thank you Magali and um um I did attend that last meeting and it was an excellent discussion a very many fine points and the equity lens was was sharp and right on so I really appreciate that and um are there any other questions or did you after we talk about this we're going to go into the neighborhoods and the um community group list did you want to pull that into that or did you want me to say something let me know sure um so the the neighborhood lists um those are on the agenda so if you the the hyperlinks are are on there but um did you want to mention something specifically about those yeah I asked Danielle to include these on the agenda um because at our last meeting we had a discussion about um connecting with neighborhoods and having and you had asked actually um how what would better assist us um what tactics what could be developed our uh the community engagement um department couldn't bring to us and I had asked about these types of lists um so this is what the city has already if you were able to take a look at those attachments a list of neighborhoods community groups community-based organizations and business groups and um Danielle had mentioned that these lists uh thank you yes you know accounting black warrant is missing there are a number of organizations and community groups neighborhoods that are missing and or the information is um needs to be evident enough to date just going to mention that Danielle had told us at the last meeting that these lists were developed in 2019 so a good amount of information may be uh needing some updating so needing to be more robust and complete so I was really interested in how we could one be part of that process to update this information and this information is available with the contact information just for the agenda purposes the contact information for these groups was not included um so that all this all the contact information wasn't just blasted out to the public um and also my other interest was around CAB members being that we are kind of separated into districts and pseudo at this point um before the before the charter review committee is completely done with that aspect for us to take on the role of contacting per district let's say you know I'm part of Mayor Chris Rogers appointments um that I would look for those groups that are in district five maybe even the greater community because I feel greater sense of responsibility there and contact these different neighborhoods and community groups and make sure that the information is correct and also as a vehicle to reach out to them to learn when their meetings are to attend their meetings and to bring back reports and any concerns back to the CAB so I see this as our greater responsibility I think that in the past we may have done more of this when it was in person and now we're still stuck here in the zoom world so I think greater efforts need to be made to fight us as CAB members to get out there and connect with these groups and bring back information from them some of them may not be meeting currently that's fine but for the ones that are to make those kinds of connections so at this point are there any questions or comments about what Magali was talking about the charter review or these lists and inputs number weeks hi thanks I should have actually clarified this with um Magali and Danielle but I have an at-large representative of the CAB that is correct yes that is a great question um I will definitely get back to you on uh on that yeah yeah yeah assuming that that is the case because I do remember Vince being at large but actually he was at large while I was still on the CAB um if that is the case my question then would be you know where would you folks you know prefer to have me focus my efforts um I mean I live you know I used to live in the northwest region represented that for several years now I live um you know downtown area off of Beaver um so I mean it's just really a question of where you'd like me to focus my efforts as the at-large representative so just throwing it out there that's a great question and just to be clear I am an at-large uh appointee as well but I kind of refer to district five because I was appointed by Chris Rogers so um that might be the how I'm thinking about it in my brain might not work for everybody but um so that's a little bit of maybe that could refer to that you're appointed by I would assume Tom Sheldon yeah Tom and that's actually kind of ironic because I used to live in the neck of the woods where Tom was previously but I was John Sawyer's representative it was just nuts but so that that's great yeah thank you that's a suggestion as far as a suggestion and not a rule of thumb by the way a quick confirmation um member weeks is an at-large member and vice chair in a sense yeah yeah just I think on that same note they're the cap I guess the area that you're assigned super cab is not doesn't match the council districts there's like the southwest core and all these other things that so they're not aligned with council district whatsoever um so it's it's entirely different um just FYI thank you yeah I somewhat glossed over that but that was a little bit of my mention of the charter review process and the district thing and that cab isn't completely aligned to districts at this time but if you were um assigned or appointed and I know your your situation is a little bit different than that as well so um I would refer to you as to what you would what you would want to be paired up with and these are this isn't something that's in our charter that we need to be paired up with this um but we are part of outreach and we are part of the voice between the community and our council so I think this is a natural extension to look at these lists and see how we can better represent neighborhoods and community groups so member Baldenegro uh yes I was appointed by council member Tibbetz uh to an at-large post and I was viewed the at-large as just representing the city of Santa Rosa and so that's been my focus yeah and I I agree with that it's just when we look at this list how would we divide it up if we um so that we're not all of us going for contacting the same 10 neighborhood groups instead of dispersing amongst the 38 to 40 neighborhood groups so that that's the question I think that's being posed um oh now I have stage fright I have such stage fright I'm sorry I'm going back to second grade and my and my pronunciation classes that I had to take after school blange okay I just need to be walked through it like three times in a row okay okay um might I might I suggest we get like an updated list that has like what's what part of the city they're located like because some groups don't have like a physical location they function as a collective and I know that makes more gray area but it would help me understand how I could even be of a support um especially when you go down the list to like the business groups or things of that nature I it would help my brain process how to be a how to be a better selector in which groups I could reach out to and I'm a member of a number of the groups so where it would overlap and better be of service too great suggestion thank you for that and um I do think that neighborhood community groups and community-based organizations may be of priority versus the business groups because they already are a representative organization that speaks directly usually to our elected officials um maybe that's just my point of view so I could be corrected on that um and with that suggestion it it might be wise for us to you know have a have a stair step process to this so appreciate that um and member Bartholomey hi yeah excuse my um my my greenness here but I guess I'm unclear exactly what we're talking about we're we're talking about updating that list and and then us individually reaching out to different organizations to what's that um I mean is this something that um that the city staff would get the list updated I mean I I just don't know exactly what we're we're looking at doing here I love the idea of you know getting more involved and out out having FaceTime with people that may not be you know really involved in the community but um I guess I'm just unclear on what we're looking at here thank you um to bring about some clarity I think that you've actually nailed it is that um to bring uh some edits and update information on the lists themselves and then use these lists as a platform and a conduit for us to go out and connect with these groups but I might um change my suggestion based on the feedback right now I don't want to give that suggestion in so we hear from member Steffi though let's go ahead and unmute sorry um yeah I was just um Danielle said this all a note I think it was today or yesterday about from Santa Rosa together and I got the impression this would be an an agenda item for the meeting next month about the whole idea of the council of neighborhoods or forget what they called it so is that where we can have more end up discussion on this or am I confusing those things are they not are we not talking about that same issue or process you are correct we're not talking about that same exact issue or process um this is something that uh these lists of neighborhood groups community groups community-based organizations and business groups about a year in the making to get this list to us I remember asking for it previously in subcommittee time uh and that was prior to I think May or June uh last year so um let's just meet the Santa Rosa together or when that's going to come up on the agenda potentially for next month and talking about future agenda items okay I don't I don't it didn't mean to confuse things sorry but a part of the passage I read there sounded very similar to what you're talking about so we'll wait until that discussion thank you yeah um so my suggestion would be that um we tackle this updating and editing of the information maybe if there would be two volunteers maybe a third volunteer um that would be willing to to make that happen I would definitely volunteer to do that and contacting groups if there's another volunteer there'd be willing to do that and we would just like split the list um if there's three of us we could split it three ways and that way we don't have to talk about assigning or you know which which neighborhoods we would go and contact um in order to have a better um understanding of what they're doing and attending meetings and stuff until uh bringing back concerns until we have that list updated so um hopefully that would happen before the next meeting and I see member Barnett stand up so just real quick Leslie because there's four lists on here so we're just focusing on neighborhoods and what you want to work on updating or we want to tackle all four lists yeah I would say the priorities once again our neighborhoods community groups and community-based organizations but just for ease of use if we just updated the neighborhood group first and then and then continued on I mean I do find it weird under business organizations nine I'm like where's Lose the end um where are the boundaries definitely more groups out there right great well like I said I'm like I mean just my first response was like what yeah well we could have a pretty discussion definitely would tie into that a little tiny tiny bit of who makes the list um which maybe not so tiny um well like you know downtown business association I don't know yeah yeah not called downtown business association by the way it's not called that no it has a different name of course yeah um I don't I don't think they're hurt maybe on a list though um so anyway uh so I volunteered myself so I might be a volunteer of one is there anybody else that would join me in hoping to update this list and as far as answering the I think you remember Barnett as far as answering the question could staff actually do something like this this is a challenging proposition for staff to do with everything else that they're doing so I think that it would be best suited for us to do that member Steffi I saw your hand go out of the slot a fly but I'm going to take you as a volunteer so we're going to go and member Baldenegro is that your hand too yes yes that's awesome excuse me I'm out okay um and I will what I will do is I will initiate a conversation through Danielle so that we don't mess up our rules and etiquette here for a cab in order to make this happen but I'll member Baldenegro Barnett and Steffi and I also want just a really quick thing about what Magali was talking about with the charter review she mentioned a couple ways to be a part of the charter review process attending the next meeting is February 2nd just so you know and so then it would be the two weeks after that two weeks after that so that's next week on Wednesday February 7th and from 5 to 7 p.m. you and I want to make special mention that all of their past meetings can be found on the web portal for meetings for the city so if you were to go to the charter review committee and go to the web portal for all the different agendas for like city council as well as the community advisory board and all the different boards you will find the charter review committee and you could actually watch all of their previous meetings so far and I find that very educational so to bring yourself up to speed um they're also on youtube I believe but it just quick to find them all on that portal um number weeks uh yeah I'm just taking a few steps back I do apologize I should have uh said this earlier do you want me to just go into the business group list and and just fill it out I mean I actually know a lot of folks like go locals Janine Murray um you know I know a lot of folks that are on this list I I'm just I'm happy to help if you want assistance with that just more but that's why number weeks uh since it's just a kind of a direct line if you can there's no way that you can actually go in there and change things and edit from your your home desktop or laptop but you could send that information to um Danielle at this point like I said you are not seeing on that link on the agenda all of their contact information so don't go to work that you that might already be there you might don't don't replicate what might already be shown we're just not showing it here on the agenda links okay so we'll check with Danielle on that um and I don't see any other hands raised can we open this up for public comments yes we do have one hand raised for public comment one moment while I get the screen up Gregory I have unmuted your microphone do you just see the screen yes I do thank you okay your three minutes starts now okay so I've listened to you and I think my takeaway is you've been advised as to how you individually can affect the charter by going to the meetings and becoming knowledgeable and trying to get in before they finish but collectively you've chosen not to do anything you had a discussion at the last meeting about maybe thinking about doing something and at this meeting I guess I'm hearing there isn't enough energy to do any collective recommendation to the charter committee even though you've been I guess told by Jason that at least the process of participating in the CIP he's thinking you should change that so there's some morsels you could actually I think recommend as a group please discuss this but could you you know either have a subcommittee and talk about it and take some action before it's too late and on the subject of all of these commit of these lists nobody cares nobody there won't be people coming to you asking you who the businesses are in the town there are other ways of finding out that I support you're trying to figure out who the neighborhood associations are because we've been doing that and we're investigating trying to do more of it and we're hoping to enlist you in helping build even more neighborhoods so if there's a list of the four that I have a priority for you helping develop more because I think it's your role is the neighborhoods but everything else you know please ignore because it's not your role and nobody's going to be asking you for it and there are other ways of finding them out it's just a big waste of your time what is not a waste of your time is trying to figure out what you think the citizens of this community want changed in the charter and most of it we've been focusing on is trying to get you more effective in ways you can be so I'd ask you to think about that thank you good job okay and after that there are no other hands raised for public comment great thank you um and I'll just follow that up by saying that I encourage our new members and um anyone who was not in attendance at our last meeting to watch that video um also on the web portal for the agendas uh and on the city website and know that we do have uh cow priority settings coming up in February where that some of those discussions will continue so um at this time we'll close out agenda item number 6.4 and go on with item number 6.5 issues of concern to city residents um this is a an agenda item that had been included a couple times again um I became chair last year at the beginning of 2021 um and I remember seeing it a few times and then it kind of fell off the radar so I asked for it to be put back on and this is a time when cab members can report on issues of concern to community members within their cab areas in the city as a whole and if there are any reports and realizing that bringing this back onto the agenda as a standing agenda item you may have nothing at this moment I came prepared with one thing but I'll leave it open. Member Weeks count on you. Amanda? Yeah um I know you are all probably aware of this um last night was uh was it second or third I think it was the second redistricting meeting um for the city of Santa Rosa it's an incredibly important process um especially in terms of as I'm you know kind of alluded to earlier um identifying communities of interest and really make sure we equitably draw these lines um I was very displeased with having to be rushed last time um through this process um especially in the wake of a fire so I'm hoping we can uh get this uh right and and really do it in a manner that um I think really actually uh separates our communities in you know manner that's equitably done uh and then actually I think that's the one thing I'll leave it there. All right thank you for that a very important process and it would be great to to hear comments from more people during that process so yeah and sorry so sorry I should have mentioned the whole point of me mentioning that was to encourage people as as much as you possibly can to really broadcast this so that it is out there um I know the city and the community engagement office is probably I'm sure doing a lot um but in our capacities with our connections it's really important. Thank you and Danielle had just sent us um the links for the mapping tool so if you have community groups and again this would be great when we have those neighborhoods um and other community groups that we built relationships with that are maybe not within your comfort zone um or within your purview right now uh broaden our horizons and get this kind of information out there to more of our residents so look back on that email from Danielle um I saw Vice Chair Innocentio's hand up but then right now I'm seeing Ragali's hand up too so I'm going to defer to you just for a second. Ragali. Thank you just a really quick uh point to the redistricting conversation we will pending uh nothing changes and health orders don't change or worse than I should say um on February 17th uh in the evening there will be an opportunity for community members uh to come in person to the Finlay Center um to Finlay Auditorium um so we'll be holding a mapping session uh with the tools and showing folks how to do all of that in English and I will also be doing it in Spanish simultaneously into separate spaces uh so just wanted to let you all know that that is going to be available um pending nothing changes meaning we are in a better situation as I'm trying to say. Hopefully that better situation as of February 12th because I believe the health orders right now are through the 11th correct so uh Vice Chair Innocentio. Yeah just a short announcement if you have interest in um equity and data um we should know that today the quarter of Sonoma County was updated uh so the quarter of Sonoma County 2021 the first one came out in 2014 and it really put numbers to what many of us have felt and seen for a long time and I've yet to read this 2021 update but um I'm excited to do it and I encourage you all to look at it again it's called the Portrait of Sonoma County the 2021 update. Good reminder thank you for that um don't see any other there's a file that's being shared in chat. Thank you that's the Portrait of Sonoma County thank you for that um um I was going to mention uh I was had a community member that reached out to me um about RV parking along North Street between Pacific and Spencer and I found this I found this uh in the communication really interesting because um great description of the situation that was going on but also a great mention of you know not perceiving these people that are parking uh there are these and using this as as their their housing and as as wrong wasn't villainizing them at all but saying that the situation is they need water they need a place to put their trash and um where can they find water where where can they get free water services where can they go for water um where can they dispose of their trash you know this is more than than a McDonald's bag of trash this is you know a week's worth of trash and we know how that piles up in our homes um and we need a place to dispose of that um so these are kind of you know this is an area of concern right and um it wasn't to say they just need to move it was to say how can we better use resources or how what are the resources in order to provide these community members that are now parking there are these and I know that this is happening in more than this one location I know this is happening all over Santa Rosa and all over Sonoma County in different uh areas so it's something that to think about I what I did is I reached out um to Mayor Rogers for for an answer to that he's still working on that get that information back to me but I encourage everybody just to be open to receiving you know that kind of question or maybe even a feedback or um frustrations because that can come up obviously as well and um voicing that here and then you know potentially that's something that one of us uh or maybe even multiples of us here in Community Advisory Board but hey I know the solution to that or I have the resource to that and I know I know about it so it's a great way to just use our platform here um and or it could be an issue that we think about bringing and highlighting to the City Council itself so I just wanted to you know bring that forth um and encourage everybody to have more discussions with community members and be more open to having that kind of feedback so member Lange wow it's not good you're good you're good there um uh along those same lines I've had a couple community members asked um from this weekend being out in of service um what what available empty lots or spaces that are like let me rephrase sorry right what are the available empty lots for uh buildings that are not being used that could be made available during a window of time for folks to have safe disposal restroom use or access to water trash disposal um that could that people know that they could go to as an option um just so that there's a solution in the same way that people are asking the question why in my neighborhood that we have a healthier alternative um available and and I think the distinction between what does it look like to leverage you know private business owners who have empty lots that are not being used um in partnership with the city to provide safe space I know it's it's a hard conversation for people to have but we know that the housing insecurity is great in our community and I think it's important to really think about the solutions that that could provide some middle ground for people if it's consistent and accessible for folks to tap into thank you and you said all of that so much better than I did um I think that there are some resources out there I know that the city probably there was uh just recently a parking program that was approved or am I incorrect on that it's the safe parking program and yes thank you remember weeks standing in from Agali on that one sorry I love the program it's really great city of Sonoma has something similar a lot of other jurisdictions and and they're I think they're really um really great programs but I don't believe our program is up and running yet though no I don't believe it's uh quite yet um but we we are taking down um these questions and hoping to have some uh some answers um for our next meeting great thank you for that all right um opening this up I don't see any other questions hand raised uh opening this up for public comments there are no hands raised for public comment thank you closing that one out and going on to um item number seven future agenda items this is the schedule that's tentative and subject to change it's also where we can give some input on our future agenda items so just quickly what is listed right now um is cab priority settings which is continued from our December meeting uh would be included in next month's meeting in February uh then the list goes the rest to be determined opposite community engagement strategic plan to be discussed in the future city's diversity equity and inclusion initiatives as well as the county homeless count presentation in the future um and so this would be the place where we would talk about that Santa Rosa together um email that had come forward and propositioned us with putting them on the agenda for next month uh member weeks yeah so I'm I'm uh definitely happy to entertain them and to to hear their proposal I mean I looked it over and initially yeah I do have some concerns and and perhaps they they could address those concerns um if they they present to us in an open forum uh so I I'm certainly happy to to explore having them on next month's agenda it looks like you know beyond the priorities that well priority setting can take a long time if I recall correctly um so whether we can achieve both of those things in one session I don't know about that we might we might have to to kick it to march but that's just based off my recollection although I think um member Barnett would know better than most of us being the the longest tenured member I think on the board thank you and I do encourage you to go back and listen to last month's meeting um so I think that we've done some of the groundwork uh at least come to some some formative understandings maybe not a complete concept yet of um priorities so uh member language in there I'm gonna owe you a dollar for everything I'm gonna go back and watch this and I'm gonna have totally okay I haven't had enough two uncles with speech impediments so my name is Kristen so it's totally fine um I don't take offense to it um in the cab priority settings I'm sorry Cal if you ask this question I actually wasn't really listening while you're talking um is the is the is the uh the section that Danielle sent to us is that going to be a part of that conversation for that initiative around neighborhoods or is that going to be a separate agenda item if I can weigh in on that um I do agree that just setting the cab priorities is going to be sort of a heavy lift and I would also recommend to maybe make them two separate um meetings and also uh I would heavily suggest and recommend um maybe to bring in like sort of an outside person that could help us with that process um because as much as I wish I could do it um I just don't think I I'm not quite yet there to assist in that way for something so important that's really going to set the stage for the you know next couple of months years okay so that's separate from the initiative that was emailed to us about the renaming of community so would that fall in the priorities or is that going to be like a separate agenda discussion in and of itself so I think the the conversation with um Santa Rosa together should definitely be sort of its own uh meeting and and separate and maybe after um you all meet and decide what your priorities are so that there could be more information to share with uh Santa Rosa together okay okay thank you thank you for that information and I took that to mean that you believe that we should have an outside facilitator for um cab priority settings okay any other questions or comments so yes member Rodney just sort of a warm feel good um I would love the opportunity if our new city manager ever wanted to pop into a meeting to say hello and see us I would welcome that time we don't need to be you know a huge agenda item but I would love in her first hundred days if she could pop into a meeting please I second thanks thank you yeah and I think that was mentioned at our last meeting as well so um great to elevate that and hopefully make that happen that would be it would be great with our priority settings discussion um so what I'm hearing is with if there's no objection that the cab priority settings continue in February hopefully with a facilitator that's from the outside and that we have uh make it a priority to have the Santa Rosa Together Group give a presentation in March I see a lot of heads nodding and even a thumbs up so I'm gonna take that as such and at this time open this up to public comment for item number seven there are no hands raised for public comment great thank you I have to mention appreciations to everybody is 833 we shoot for around eight o'clock this went long not as long as some of them have gone in the past but I appreciate everybody's time and energy putting in for this meeting as well as the prep work to this and the prep work for the next one and those that have volunteered I have the name written down so we are now moving on to agenda item number eight which is adjournment uh motion so motion second for weeks and Balda Negro I got you on the thumbs up for the second so I'm gonna sit and everybody is saying yes to this thank you so much everybody please stay safe out there I'm looking forward to seeing you next month in February take care thanks so much