 Delegates, we have spoken a lot today about mainstream and social media, the conflicts between them and the alliance between them. The next session discusses something similar as we talk about the conflict between mainstream media and social media and its impact on media education. I would request all the delegates to please settle down so we can start with the next discussion. Attendees, please settle down. I would like to call upon stage the panel chair, Mr. Abhishek Mehrotra, Deputy Editor E4M Group and Editorial Head Samachar from media.com. Mr. Mehrotra, joining him on stage, we have an eminent list of panelists. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the DG of my alma mater, IIMC, Sri Keji Suresh on to stage, please. Joining him is Mr. Alok Mehta, former President, Editor's Guild of India, Mr. Rajesh Badal, Senior Journalist and Filmmaker, Mr. Rahul Mahajan, Editor-in-Chief, Rajya Sabha TV, Mr. Saeed Ansari, Executive Editor, Ajatak, Mr. Dilip Tiwari, Editor-Z, UPUK and MPCG and Dr. Anurag Batra, Chairman and Editor-in-Chief, BW Business World and E4M Group. Audience, can we have a big round of applause for our panelists, please. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Abhishek, distinguished friends, dignitaries on and off the dice, all our friends here. So, great. First of all, my congratulations and compliments to both Anuragji and Dr. Surbhi Dahiya for making this happen. I mean, we have been having conferences where you will have media persons. We will be having conferences where we have media educators. But this Sangam, you know, that is something rare and in media schools we have been doing it. I mean, off late we had the national seminar on language journalism. We had people from the industry. Aalupji was there. And we have all these friends, Rajesh Kams, Rahul Kams, Saeed Kams to our institute. So, industry interface is always there. But that industry and media educators come together on a platform organized by a media institution, media organization. You know, that is something unique. Compliments to Anurag Bhattra and Dr. Surbhi Dahiya for this great thing. Okay. Now, friends, let me begin on a positive note. I just want to give you a couple of good news. Now, this is source-based. Now, please don't forget that at the end of the day I am a journalist. So, now this is based on sources. Okay. But reliable sources. And the report is that, yes, the HRD ministry has issued the letter of intent for IAMC to be a deemed university. And this is breaking here, breaking news. Flash with all the anchors sitting here. Second is that, yes, once again IAMC has been interested with the responsibility of setting up the National Center for Excellence in Animation, Visual Effects, Gaming and Comics in Mumbai. And so IAMC is going to set up Asia's biggest institute of gaming, comics, graphics, new media. So that, again, reestablishes our, you know, our image as India's premier media training institute. We have been interested with this responsibility. And that also points to the new area, the new, you know, horizons to which media is going. This institute is being envisaged for the simple reason that there are, annually, there are thousands of jobs coming up in this, in these areas. But unfortunately, we don't have the manpower. On the one hand, we complain that, you know, there is an unemployment problem. But on the other hand, there is an absence of skilled manpower in these areas. So that's why we are setting up this institute to, to what is you call the deficit in the, or the gap in employment and education. Now, today we are here basically to ponder over, deliberate on media education. And that is why some of the biggest names in media and media education have assembled here. I just would like to, because I'm sure that during the whole day, I just landed during the whole day. And now we are going to talk about a lot of issues and many of these issues at the cost of repetition. I may be, you know, raising it all over again. But nevertheless, I want to, I am concerned for the simple reason that teaching shops are mushrooming all over. Keeping in view the fact that, you know, a large number of students are still attracted to media because of the glamour quotient. It's glamour of being part of media, you know. So you have civil service aspirants. You have a lot of people who want power, you know, that attracts you. And that is being cashed in on by, you know, fly by the night operators who will open a shop, teaching shop. And then they will have few cameras and give them some training. And that is spoiling not only industry, but also media education as a whole. That is something as media educators we need to be concerned about. We have to insist on some kind of benchmarking and standardization in media education. That's very important. Because we are not talking, we are talking about a lot of things about content and all that. Yes, they are all important. But then there has to be a benchmarking, legal education. I mean, no law degree is recognized unless you are the bar council accreditation. Unless the BCI gives you a license, you don't become a lawyer. Unless the medical council gives you a license, you don't become a doctor. But here any time we can Harry can open up a teaching shop and there is no standardized curricula. UGC has for a couple of courses, master's programs. But beyond that, we don't have. We cannot emerge as a discipline unless we have standardization. I mean, even today in Delhi University journalism courses are being run by the Hindi and English departments. Not by journalism departments. Why is it that happening? I think we need to ponder over this. We have to talk to the higher ups. We have to talk to UGC. We have to talk to the HRD ministry. These are issues which we need to raise. That why we are not being recognized as a discipline. So for the first time, now I'm not taking credit for that. But yes, I'm now part of the ICSSR research council. For the first time, the Indian Council of Social Science Research over the last two years. We are now giving ICSSR scholarships to for research in media education also, in media also. Because still now, all these years, this was not recognized as a field of social science. So I would urge all of you, including the industry, you see, we belong to the generation which did not require a degree in journalism or a diploma in journalism. We became journalists just like that. Then subsequently, we acquired degrees or diploma out of choice. But today, the specialization has become so important that you need to have to go to a finishing school. Even though your writing may be good, many other aspects of being a journalist would be certainly good. But whether it's television, whether it is so new media, you need to have some training. That's important. So first of all, that's my question because there is a positive of time. I'll just quickly go through some of the points that I feel are important for us to deliberate on this. Second is the training of trainers. I'm sorry to say that. Particularly, maybe in Delhi, some good schools are there, media schools, maybe one in, say, in Chennai, one in Bangalore, in Pune. But if you look at the standards of teaching in many of the state-level universities and even central universities, they're not up to the mark. So what is important is that they need a training, very important aspect. We have to highlight, flag the training of trainers. TOT is very important. That's why at IMC, last year, we set up the National Media Faculty Development Center. The whole idea is to train teachers from across the country and the world on how we can improve media education. That is something, again, we have to really talk about how to improve the skills of teachers and at the mafousal level, at, you know, at the state level, how we can do it. The third aspect I believe is that more and more people are now reading, listening and watching media in their respective languages. Language media is growing like anything. How are we catering to that as media educators? In the last two and a half years, we have upgraded the Urdu program at IMC to a full-fledged diploma program. I've started Marathi journalism from my Amravati Maharashtra campus. I've started Malayalam journalism from the Kerala campus. What is the whole idea? The whole idea is that for this growing language media industry, you need trained, skilled manpower. So that's why we are working on this direction. So that they also get the kind of manpower that earlier was confined to only English and to some extent Hindi. So this language media needs to be taken care of as media educators we need to talk about. The fourth important issue I believe is that the great paucity of publications, Indian publications on media. Today a lot of us are writing some for API scores and some coming up with really quality. So what we need are quality journals and quality books. I mean we are taking why I am repeatedly talking about IMC not to tom-tom about IMC, but because when we speak, one should speak with some credibility. I'm only talking about things which I have done. We have revived our publications division. Our journals are back with a bang and our publication division I am happy to inform you is again back with a bang. Our first book is back on the shelves. We need to encourage people from the industry, people from the education media education sector to write quality books which can match the best in the world. Even today if you look at the bibliography or the suggested textbooks, 90% are western, not Indian. And Indian journalism has evolved in a totally different way. So we cannot be teaching them the basic parameters or the benchmarks of western media. We have to teach them about Indian media and for that you need good Indian textbooks. And that is something that I believe we as media educators should ourselves write and encourage others to write. One more thing before I conclude is that because many eminent people are here, you know I think that this is regarding recruitment. Media is one area where we need to have and I would request UGC and I think all of us should request UGC because many of us in the media education are people who have come from the industry. And I would request UGC to with regard to media education they should have flexible norms with regard to recruitment of people from the industry as assistant, associate and professors. That is very important because they come with a rich experience. That also has to be taken into account because this is an industry where as I always say media education. Education in media is incomplete without media and media is incomplete without education. So it's a very complimentary term. So I think that this aspect should also be taken into account and last but not the least, I think that when we talk about content what is important is convergence. Now you cannot segregate, isolate print journalism, electronic media, digital media. I think that we need journalists who are total media persons who can work equally at ease with print, electronic and digital. We have to prepare such journalists. There are days of only preparing a print journalist. Today even in print media if you look at the statistics, I mean today a whopping majority of Indians go to website to watch videos. And today thanks to this mobile phone everybody has the potential to be a journalist. Big channels are using mobile phones. So let's train our media persons as per the requirement. Let us train them in terms of electronic, print, digital. Let's not keep them segregated. They have to have holistic training. That's very important and I would suggest once again that this is the beginning of a great collaboration and I'm sure that these deliberations would not be just confined to coming together to release a book that is the starter, Dr. Surbhi's directory. But then let this directory inauguration give us some kind of a direction also. I'm sure you know we will all succeed in that. Thank you very much for being patient. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Keji. Media education. You have made us proud of some bitter truths. We had very good things in the morning. Now we come to our first discussion. Mr. Harug, it's a pleasure to meet you because you are the most experienced in our panel. Is social media actually a platform or is it just a distribution platform? Thank you, Davishak. I don't think I will ever believe that there is a challenge. First of all, Mr. Anurag should congratulate us. As you said in the language, he encouraged us to increase digital media through the exchange for media. And secondly, he encouraged us on every forum. That's why we are gathered here. I believe that they supplement each other. There is always a problem that we are talking about right now. First people used to say that what will happen if the TV comes? The TV came and the video came when they said what will happen to the cinema hall? What will happen after the video came? Even after the television came, the channels came and said no. After the digital media came, what will happen to them? I have to say that they supplement each other. But yes, there is a challenge. And as we said in the previous session, there are such fake news and fake news on social media. As I told you, in 1821, when I was working in Patna, there used to be such fake news. Not in Bihar, but in many parts of the country. They used to publish anything without any responsibility. At that time, there was not as much defamation. They used to publish against the income, they used to publish about the minister, they used to publish about the social service. Something was right. It was right that we believe a regional newspaper or a language press that a small newspaper should be published. We all came from small parts of the country and reached Delhi. Social media is wrong in that way. I am also afraid of it. People will say that this kind of information will be published. You did not say that it was like this. It was like this about the politicians. You do not say that. You do not publish the news. You must have seen it even today. Many people said that the news was not published. By promoting on social media, but gradually people digest it and understand it. Whether it is paid news or fake news, they do not have credibility. Even after coming to such a channel, even after being on YouTube, people think that what is your bias. If you are a bias. We do not have much time to meet. That is why I think you have started the conversation. I will definitely say that. There is always a problem. You are all here with so many difficulties. You are all here with media institutes. You are all connected with universities. The thing is that our new students who are coming through social media and Facebook, I have been going there for many years than I am C. I have been going there for many years. I think that the general knowledge that should be the background of them, they feel that we will put it in digital in Google and see when the Suresh Ji was. I want to say that about them, about the wealth, about the industry, about the news, about the background of the leaders, what will they say? Many times Suresh Ji sent some children to me. They felt that we should work on Facebook. We should work on this. They do not think that we will directly do political journalism. I think the social media has one thing that they have believed that information is available. We have to pass it to others. We can generate news. That is the subject of the media. In major education, you should pay attention to to read them. As mentioned, there are no books. But you will ask them to read them. If I have written a letter, 20 years ago, the people who have written it said that if there is a book about it, then they did not pay attention. We should think about the code of conduct and social media. We are also in the writers guild. They say that the government should not pay attention to it. But those who do not pay attention to it, whether it comes in print, on TV, on some social media, on YouTube. You should create hatred from it. It is very dangerous. You will say that Mahatma Gandhi had written in 1928-1939 that do not believe. Many times this news is wrong. Freedom was going on. I have it. I have it. I do not remember the year but because the language is wrong. They have opposed the right to inversion. It is dangerous. They did not deny it. They said that it is dangerous. Social media is the same. When we came to RTI, I think that our new generation if we balance it and tell them that do not immediately think of becoming Rajdeep Sardesai and Barkha Dutt. When people came to us, I was like should I write on Africa? Our Rajid Mathur was an editor at that time. When there was no news in Indore, he used to write very well on Africa. He was an editor and he used to write columns. But even then there was his information. Today, after being whispered about the information, I feel that where should I go? Write about Chandni Chowk first. Write about Nalikidnalli that there is dirty water at that place. About plants. I feel that one of the needs of our young generation as you have said there are such courses. There is such integration in them that where should I go? What is your information? What is your knowledge? Tell him general knowledge or I am telling you even today you will see the people who are looking for a job you tell them what is the code of ethics what is the press council of journalism what is the address guild they do not know. In such a situation, I feel that social media is going to benefit each other you get information from that and also tell the people of the media that if you have written something good Abhishek has written someone else Rahul Majani has written a good story then give it credit What is the important point? I have worked in the media you teach your children to give credit if they say that Suresh has done a good job then you will not get smaller it is better that there is a problem that we do not want to give credit even in that print it was dangerous they thought they would take the copy from the PTI and print it directly I gave the first desk to the journalists that later they will not get the report of the agency so that the copy of the agency gets the credit I feel that we need to work in the media even if we are working in PR to give the credit we came to this summit I had a program with the architect and I was not in the pioneer so I said that I will leave it but sister, I am a little concerned about such subjects so why not everyone will give credit and tell the conference about them I feel that your media education is a mission it will come out we will continue to make mistakes but as I will say it will be more like their awards and their programs make it a cannibal feature if needed then do it in Raipur in Hyderabad in Kolkata thank you very much thank you as you said I do not wish I believe that after every month 15-20 days we take a lot of wishes many people get upset with them after these we always take wishes because the awards go away and wishes are left for us I am talking to Rajesh sir you were in the morning you were listening to education so you asked me directly what has the impact of social media on media education today when new students become journalists what is the difference thank you social media and television is different for us challenges are increasing our challenges are increasing we have talked on many issues since morning many courses are old they have not been renewed I go to 20 universities and I am seeing that if we want to re-create the Pathikram then how difficult is this I have felt that even after many years the Pathikram does not change so for those who are already working but social media we have a tool for which there is no need to be a journalist whatever you think whatever you see if you have checked without cross-check if you will put it on your tool then it will be viral in one second in social media that is why there is always debate that is why this is a weapon that becomes a boon that becomes a boon that becomes a boon Mr. Rajesh I will come again Mr. Rajesh I will tell you I think there is a Hindi anchor who is far away from Fatiar neither on whatsapp nor on facebook where anchors stop social media every anchor tells I have so many retweets how are you anti-social no anti-social anti-social media you are not on whatsapp you are not on twitter you are not on facebook why is it important anchors here for their popularity for their followers for journalism for people's news today Mr. Hamare this is the problem Sonia is also here Rahul brother everyone is here Mr. Rajesh Bhaialuk everyone is here our generation and our friends are worried that if they choose any discussion then they choose social media from facebook they choose for watching tv in the evening they have influence we think this is the biggest problem and this is the biggest problem because credibility Mr. Aalok and Mr. KG said that credibility is a big thing you can use whatsapp for your family you can use facebook for your friends but how can you use facebook for journalism how can you be influenced how can you decide from someone's personal twitter handle that our country's 130 crore people will be influenced by that or will be influenced by that Mr. Bhaialuk Mr. Bhaialuk you said that how can you be a news maker never and our mistake is we are using credibility believe me there is a trend do you believe that we are asking you if there is a trend on twitter then it is a trend if there is a lot of likes or if there is a video on youtube which is giving millions of views so are they genuine people are they in Indore or in Balwaha in Madhya Pradesh I am being chosen there is a person who is following him or watching that video Mr. Abhishek Mr. Abhishek do you believe that there are big media houses which are big politicians who are running who are funding and all those offices their job is to like them promote them viral their videos are they not and if they are then please stop Mr. Karid you have said a lot in Ishaar and Ishaar how we become makers Rahul Mahajan RSTV's platform is very Sanjida platform and social media we see it as a fun tour so I am going to tell you how you get the impact on social media on social media see as far as TV is concerned we are very active on social media especially on YouTube and I don't want to say that where TV we believe that 25 plus people watch TV news all the people and many if I can give it a number we have 26 crore hits and what we see is below 25 all the people who are studying and preparing for competitive examinations we see it in a very Sanjida way but the thing is about social media and mainstream media I think we are starting to fear that we have run a story what will someone say how will they criticize they will say this is not a thing they will say that you have run it wrong we are starting to fear Rahul Bhai a question has come to you because your channel may not fight for TRP so how do you watch TRP we don't watch TRP because we are not on the market we don't watch but we do watch issues what kind of issues we want to what kind of information we want to give these are different views of our own but I believe that in literature we are giving our views to people I will come to you again Anurag ji my question is business world and exchange for media we run two media platforms exchange for media we run business world my question is because you are connected with the recruitment process so what kind of students you meet how do you engage them I am a sound way contrarian my Hindi is good but my natural language is English I am lying I don't know who said it maybe I am saying it thank you for coming I am very busy I hope so I am not that busy I can tell you that I want to tell you one I am a failed media educationist I started a media school with my friend Sahajal da he started it and he got me in and then I got Atul ji in and he was in heaven now when he died we shut it down we were just sad we didn't have that courage after that so I understand a little bit of media education when you fail at something you actually understand it better than when you succeed at something that's one I want to say something and I hope all the vice chancellors and the teachers the best journalists that come out are not from journalism schools I want to Dr. Roy did he go to a journalism school did Mr. Puri go to a journalism school did he go to a journalism school Alok ji you went to a journalism school have I made my point have I made my point I can give you 25 30 names see I think it's about I told you the incident I was hiring this girl yesterday and I asked who is the vice president of him yes she didn't know I'll tell you when you're 8 years old I knew Chaudhary Charan Singh ji ki constituency Bakpat when my father used to take milk in the morning he would do a quiz with me I would go and buy vegetables and fruits with him he was from Bakpat so it may sound very funny to you but by the age of 11 I knew the constituency of every major politician so I have this quizzing brain I remember everything that that I can even what my wife tells me I used to forget that earlier so one it is about domain expertise it's about knowledge we have to attract better quality of students to media schools for the right reasons I don't know how it can be done but you know there are role models in media there are enough role models in media so that second media schools have to become technology schools you know I sound little and I hope I can take my company in the next 2 years both exchange for media and business world in that direction we have to become video we end the TV I mean I'd say then I'd get in trouble but I think there's something seriously wrong with our rating I mean they get much more traffic on their digital is there getting that how come they're not getting that on TV right so in future everything is going to get consumed on this we are all screen-ager we may not be teenagers we are screen-ager so I think we have to KG Shureji made a very relevant point of retooling the trainers retooling so I don't think we know what to do we have to start doing it and I said one thing at the start of the day if you want to build great journalists we have to have a class in spine building I'm not talking about physiotherapy class let me clarify I think that comes from the kind of person you are who work for it's not about money today you can have a blog and do great journalism you don't have to work for a company you do great content, honest content problem is we've either gone to the left or the right even the me too movement became about who's on the left, who's on the right and it took away from the seriousness of that issue right and we know which are the sides which are on which side and which are on which side now however if you're always criticizing there's something the government also does well I mean I'm not going to talk about GST demonetization but I can say with confidence that ICBC the insolvency and bankruptcy code is such a game changer it is making sure that the employment stays the going concerns stay the large creditors get their money back the small creditors are still not getting but I think that's the next step how many of you have hailed ICBC I mean there's everything wrong with the government but we must at the same time call us paid us paid demonetization it didn't work out as it should have GST implementation could have been better these are real facts now point is I don't know who said we shouldn't be famous but we all want to be famous otherwise we wouldn't be at media seminars it's a human nature will you become a film star what I'll say something bad at one time I used to hire modeling agencies I was a modeling agency you know the truth I'm sitting here with me you should know you should know I'm a junior you should know point is I'm with you Deepak Jaurasi was a modeling agency Ashutosh was a modeling agency it's a little more tell me tell me I'm a modeling agency I'm a model so there's no question that I'm not a model so that's but good doing that's the last point I'll make again KG Shureji in his first thing he talked about it media he talked about launching animation school you know I think for the first time when we started our vision we shut it down in Rupika's school just to give you a context our vision was to create a holistic and we've not given up on that vision I want to set up a media industry when 2 years, 5 years, 10 years I don't know about it I had no plan to lose my hair so I would say I said it this media school conslave media educators of India has become a journalism media school I think when you talk of media today there's a lot happening which is beyond news and I'm not talking I have to recognize that and build schools that are holistic and it will happen but we have to attract better quality of students to media schools for the right reason if the most brightest people go to IT IM's XYZ then I'm not looking down anyone anyone who's coming to IMC is also very bright I'm sure they are and do all other but generally not necessarily the most bright guys come from media schools and because there are no domains they are in journalism for the right reason so I think it will happen technology will make it happen and I agree with KG Shuresh Ji that there has to be a I mean there is a press consulate of India there is a press trust of India but we know they are tuteless tigers they are tuteless I'm talking about editors guild where they are but the point is we have to look at the positives of what exists we can't be cynical the fact is there are so many people in all the organizations that is represented journalism school Avinash Ji was my first media school director I met like 17, 18 years back I can tell you that media he was a journalist before that he used to be a sports journalist so the KG Shuresh Ji was a political journalist for a long time now if journalism schools are headed by it's a good sign that's the last thing I want to say and over to Dharip Ji Dharip Tiwari Ji I have a question from you because you are the member of MP 36 and UP Uttarakhand so the biggest drawback of social media is the fake news and there is a lot of fake news in the reasoner content so how do you deal with the challenges of fake news in the reasoner channel thank you Abhishek the first challenge that people discussed a few days ago that during the election a question was raised that we take a driven agenda from social media and we come under their pressure you have seen Kamal Nath's statement that there is a topic of discussion apart from that there are many channels whether it is our Zee media Zee MPCG channel that we didn't do a survey that's a fake survey so every day we have been cleaning that we didn't do a survey so this is the second power of social media which other people want to use one survey was in the favour of BJP the other survey was in the favour of Congress both of them went to Congress with the election commission that this is a fake survey and we are not a party but in the favour of the party they are happy so naturally you have a positive point of social media but we get to see the negative aspect but we don't have a question of concern the question is the organisation we work for the organisation we work for we have to make a system mechanism and you have credibility credibility is a problem in social media people talk to each other for example if you have a smart phone you become a smart journalist he will write anything he will own it but the biggest question is will we be afraid of social media or will we use social media because your journalists like you are talking about mojo there are many organizations which are in the work of camera men we will only go to mojo so you have to see that the journalist is your stringer he is sitting in a district so the same social media becomes a weapon and it will be your work but we have to take care of the ethics because we are teaching them how to train them they have not gone to any media school nor to any university but they are trained in fields and a Rajesh ji you wrote an article on how regional media is being shown and many times it seems that it is coming from the market I want to tell you that in national media there is no place for regional regional content has been lost in national media I think when there will be big news there will be such news which is important for you then you will jump towards regional media so I will tell you that it is becoming a voice and we should use it positively thank you my producer Pryanka sent me a message Pryanka I will be there in 10 minutes please give me 10 minutes this is the biggest question that we have done I just suggest that media students are sitting for a long time I have their group's whatsapp that no one is saying anything for us please give them one advice which they can follow I always give one advice for you I often give that Vidya Balan had a dialogue entertainment entertainment entertainment in dirty picture read read read you can read in digital media you can print you can read as much as you can read read read read not only one line of thought you can read as much as you can because that will come handy to you sooner or later so please read as much as possible what is your advice for media students I always go to media school I also say there are professors and vice-chancellors I will say that whenever you take children to your school you can give them if you want to become a journalist as they say 24 hours 24 hours we can understand but what are those 18 hours just think that Mr. Modi can wake up you can wake up so it is better that one should prepare that I should see something in my sleep that this is news first tell them if you go on to go PR agency mass communication is also read in media if you want to go to such work but if you want to become a journalist then you should think that you have to stay up all night like doctors doctors go to operation at 7 o'clock and reach home at 10 o'clock very good doctors who work in institutes so in media I am also saying let them come they should work as much as they can what is your advice Rajesh sir what I want to say is in the field in which we are there is a lot of time to make saak but there is not one minute to think about one thing then it is very difficult if it is proved wrong then where will you clean once in the newspaper the next day you will clean but the TV audience sitting in front of you so the wrong information if you have gone or on a social media platform that in a minute you will get all the information that is very important if you get any information do cross check learn to doubt every thought and only then I think it is a mantra what you want to say to the students KG sir it is very important to study you cannot say that I am interested in politics so I will do politics you have sports, politics, science maroof sitting here defense everything should be known and that can only come from studying professors, teachers, educators again after KG sir you have to give quality teachers it is very important and the third thing again for you technology is increasing very fast it is changing day by day something new is coming every day so if you do not change if you do not upgrade yourself then you will give your students degree but they will not be able to go to the industry and get a job it is very important that you say that there is no degree and you have to do things after that when I was going to Mumbai University I was watching you what you want to say to the students I have studied from media school I have studied from Himachal University and I have a teacher sitting here so when I studied we were not taught on TV we were taught on print we were taught in V.A. how to print newspaper so I am from that time when I started I was in private so what I have learnt is what I have learnt so I have adapted the new technology and I will say if social media is an in-think or there are many people who give you a feedback about what you are doing then you have to use it according to yourself if you want to use it then you have to use these technologies Thank you Rahul I have three things to say studying and working there I think they are most but I would say first is don't just be in media for being an anchor there is a lot to media than being an anchor I am not saying don't be an anchor if you are good and yours so one is meet balanced people people like Alok I am sure everybody is also balanced but I have seen him in our jewellery he doesn't get swayed and third maybe little controversial I don't know how journalists will stay away from controversy I run away if someone wants to fight with me I kind of run away this is because we are talking about social media almost all journalists have their social media platforms they are on YouTube, they are on Twitter they are on Facebook I think it depends on their organization I cannot comment for their organization but I think if they are working for a company I run an organization so maybe I am biased but I am very content oriented I understand how journalists work and I am one of them in some way but that content and that platform should be used for the organization or if you are not then go on your own and build something that is good that is what I would say because social media is only a distribution platform content now I know some journalists create fresh content for their social media so that their companies can't but in my view there is a very fine line between thin line between that I think that content should belong to organization and I am saying I am biased because I own a company Thank you sir What would you like to say to students but I think it is most important that in front of a journalist who just said that everyone comes to be an anchor you see some people on the screen whether they are an anchor or a reporter but the people behind the screen actually they are the experts of the screen who run the entire system and I would like to say that don't always run after money and keep a tag when you come to the media I am not for sale tag you can always tag so it happens that from below on top of that there is a ladder in our media for which we are responsible and it is often said that someone will come to be an anchor someone will come to be an anchor I told a journalist that I think I am a BPL journalist he said why? I said your name is not in any list neither in Neeraradia, 2G, 3G this means the entire panel is BPL I hope that in this matter in any diary, in any list in any tape, if your name is not there then you will be the happiest and I think the journalist should decide that why he has come to be an anchor or journalism so whenever you study in media schools I have a request and I hope that you first tell them that you are not going to make money there you are going to do something that will give you a lot of respect and fame people say why should you go to any place in other fields so we should see good journalists in this field who are not able to read and should wait and I have seen that they stay for a long time 6 months, 2 years for a long time Thank you very much Thank you Thank you I think Karthik we have completed our panel with time today's first panel which was completed with our dead end then your watch is very useful Thank you panelist Thank you I request all our delegates to stay on stage please I would like to call upon Dr. Surbhi Daya co-convener of today's summit to kindly come on stage to felicitate all our panelists with the token of our appreciation Dr. Daya Ladies and gentlemen Thank you to all the panelists Thank you Dr. Daya