 know who set that time I think it was Betsy joining us for the time being and for forever for however long she can put up with this I think she can put up yeah that's right yeah I don't I don't know that Sarah Sarah said she didn't know if she had to work this morning or not so Sarah pops in we'll see her but I don't think she's going to uh because she has to work but so yay Betsy go glad to be here what is it the song from cabaret good evening of welcome and welcome yeah so Betsy's here and Betsy's gonna be doing our um what you call it photo of the week photos yeah uh let me go back so I can see what the comments are going yes somebody made a mistake on the time yeah I don't know who did that so yeah Judy don't leave we're good we're good we're here you're all here pull up a chair Chris is like running around the room trying to get everybody to stay in their seats they're gonna be here in a minute don't leave yeah we're here uh so the very first person Judy was the first person in the room today so good on you Judy then John tiner and uh then John Vaskey uh turns out to 3 a.m for some reason like I said Greg made a big big mistake on that I'll blame it on my my laptop because I had to give away my good laptop the one I've been doing all the programming on for hactober fest but I it um it needed repair but I couldn't send it in until hactober fest was done and wikichu was done wikichu day was done so then this week I sent it in so now I'm using a 10 year old machine which is very slow so you could believe it on the machine but Susan Anderson yeah I'm I'm here and it's it was the machine Greg had to take the the machine messed it up and Greg had to take it in and get it fixed there we go there we go that's the story we'll go with that you know this week has been a great week for veterans yeah Susan Anderson we're on we're definitely here we're here I'm sorry about that folks uh sometimes you know these things question of the week who are the veterans in your family man oh day did we have some answers on this so 87 there were so many answers there were 87 there's like seven five seven pages worth of um of answers and this is vets as not veterinarians we're talking veterans because this was the week for um November the 11th which was armistice day over across the way uh so we had lots of great answers uh from lots of people and what I have tried to do is um what number am I on I'm on the wrong number here let me go back to page one nope anybody gets sick just let me know there we go so uh Roy Boyer voted up his own answer as the best answer and you know kudos to you Roy let's do this let's go Wilbur Hayes Henry Boyer or is it Boye it would be Boye if you were from Canada Dan Pack Warren Boyer Roy Boyer oh Roy oh Vietnam United States Marine Corps Marine Corps birthday was this weekend too pierce Hayes uh there are other uh there are just father uncles and first cousins so that's pretty cool and I'm not going to change that Roy you go for it you are a vet let's let you vote yourself up there I like the gumption um um and some people were uh saying that they are creating some cool uh space pages so Jennifer Turner here are a few of the veterans on my branches that I have remembered to tag into my service veterans category uh this is only a fraction and does not include my grandfather or reservist and my grandfather who is part of the un operations in Egypt following world war too so we have a couple of really interesting let's see if I've got them in the right order or not go away um obviously not so that category I could have sworn I had that category up but I don't uh so let's just pull it up so she's created a category uh a personal category just for just for her family's profiles that are veterans and she doesn't have them all in there obviously because if you worked for the un and you did a un operation that person is absolutely a veteran and you should add them all to it but it's interesting how she uses that as her own personal way of keeping track of her people so these uh veterans are going to have uh down at the bottom they're going to have a category for Turner service veterans and I guess Turner 601 one was her uh just one of her people but I don't see a Turner on here but again Turner is for her her profile name yeah yeah that makes sense so she just created a profile veterans based on her sir or her wiki tree profile so that works um so a lot of people did that and then people were talking about how it was a great idea John Vaskey who's here and other people are picking it up and somebody has something similar to that where they have their wiki tree id and then military cousins and they even have a cool personal category thing in here that somebody put on there so this is an older category look at how many names are on this one wow so anyone can create their own personal category then absolutely yeah like um I do that with DNA work or if you have like I have uh all of my mitochondrial DNA matches when I go and I find the earliest known ancestor on family tree DNA or my dy dna.org I create a profile for the earliest known ancestor and walk back that person not to a living person but back far enough to where I know who the tester is and uh so I create a category based on that and for me it's like h1b1-t I see I can't remember how to say my name but it's my happy name and then it says group one and so if somebody else had uh wanted to create their own personal category for that they would say group two or group three so yeah you can do that that's interesting um so yeah somebody did that and then we have somebody who went to a lot of work to create this list and they put all of the links in here and put in a little bit of information on each one of their veteran ancestors cool way to do things uh and John Vasky's up there asking talking to people and thanking them we thank you John Vasky for that uh Elmo J York that's Iwo Jima Iwo Jima yeah yeah my grandfather um I'll show you my Facebook posts let's go over here this is the post that I put up for my grandfather um he was a transport commander during World War II so he did 17 round trips of carrying people back and forth and equipment and supplies and reading his service um his service record burned up but I have his copy of his package and he he shows that he was really important and integral and carrying people from point A to point B and he cared for the men as if they were guests in his home with morale boosting activities and support for long stressful voyages then he delivered them to the doorstep of violence and death with great care and bravery that's my grandfather wow what a service yeah and so I was looking I'm looking through here and I'm seeing all these people who served in the same areas like Iwo Jima he was he he has bronze stars for a lot of these battles and I mean he may have carried some of these people yeah and I'm like who was on his ship yeah yeah yeah the really fun thing about that is um let me see if I can get this up the I created he had two ships that he commanded um and one of the guys sees the very first thing that pops up amazing yeah so here's the first ship he commanded and the grandson of the captain of the ship actually contacted me and gave me information um the ship though and there's my here is the crew of the ship not the people and there's my granddaddy right there and there's my granddaddy right there and these are the the executive officers of the ship this is from Life Magazine now this guy piloted the ship onto a pinnacle in the Aleutians and ripped a hole in the ship they had to beach the ship this was in Life Magazine they had to beach the ship and fill the hole with concrete and mattresses to get it they were being strived by um Japanese planes while they were trying to get it repaired they got it repaired in Hawaii but their their patchwork repair worked to get the ship back to Hawaii so isn't that funny and there's another article about the ship's captain what they did was they took over these ships and said you're gonna your ship you're a mares captain but now you're gonna be captaining this ship for the US government because they they you know took those ships in so poor guy he had to go to work when he wasn't even planning on it anyway so that's my my my guy do you think there are our um ship manifest records anywhere you know I don't I don't know because I know all of the records on my grandfather burned my my father's records have burned I can't find any of their information on cold three like burned where in St. Louis where the archives burned for the army so yeah he was also a merchant marine he was a major at this time he went out of the service of the lieutenant colonel but he was a major at this time uh and the other ship was the US ATC Barb and another person who sent me they had this um certificate that they had that they would give to you when you cross the meridian where you went from one day to the next day and so they got that there was all sorts of reading his service stuff and the letters that he got from people was all about him making people feel comfortable and giving them things to do activities above and beyond training and whatever on the ship and I said to my brother once yeah he was just a glorified purser but that's really not the truth um yeah so we have some more really cool um wiki tree profiles to look at like Russell Herman Macklin uh was Ontario died in Ontario uh really good profile for him Lisa Gervais are you here there's Lisa here yeah Lisa Lisa the only the only thing that that bothers my eyeballs on your profile is that you have this sticker up here and then his military service sticker is down here I went in and I was going to change it and move it up to the top of the profile but I didn't I kept my grubby hands off of it but what a good profile what a great picture oh Lisa Gervais he was a mess sergeant I know a mess sergeant uh here that was with the air force and he's an interesting fellow to be around let's see William Carlisle Deckel this guy uh West Palm Beach Florida so I mean West Palm Beach hmm he lives down the street from Mar-a-Lago right oh really yeah but guess who this guess who this belongs to I was really impressed when I saw this click to navigate my chromosome map and DNA painter that's gotta be Peter Roberts excellent that he's got lots of great pictures of this guy and he's got all of his DNA stuff written up he doesn't have any uh stickers on here for him being in the military though um so fun anyway that's Peter Roberts if you don't know Peter Roberts he is he is responsible for a lot of the stuff that you see on wiki tree uh let's see I have Pam Patty Richie I have family members who served an aunt um one always comes to my my my uncle Lloyd Hans Roda Roda Roda enlisted at 17 about one year before I was born and was killed in Vietnam the year I graduated from high school only months before he had planned to retire I hate those stories I knew him primarily from his furlough visits because he served his whole life in the army and those visits were the only time I really saw him we had family reunions each time he was home on leave one day I went through my mother's scrapbook and read all of her letters to him from him to get to know him better and I decided to do a memorial page on him uh on my google family genealogy website uh but I've since transferred most of that to wiki tree so here we go gonna take a look at this he looks very very happy um nice uh staff sergeant worked his way up Ho Chi Minh Saigon uh but a really good biography great pictures of the family and I mean you can pick him out pretty quickly um nice you know great pictures there he is again he's always got that smile going on yeah yeah check out the bike when he was a kid I'm trying to figure out which one he is in this picture this guy and then other pictures here he must be the little guy here what a great great profile and a great um memorial to him 16 with his go ahead Betsy I was going to say having those letters is such a treasure like if you read like a sequence of correspondence over time you really can get to know someone you can absolutely and here um he you know he gets his badge I don't know one of you guys has your volume on for from the youtube channel just might want to check that um it they've got this series of madras soldier wounded during vietnam but battle in 1966 and then down here condition is serious and then down here he's passed and then she even has the letter wow oh wow from his commanding officer and then a commemorative stuff and then full military honors at the funeral how cool is that and that's not a free space page that's his like profile profile yeah that's amazing that's a lot of stuff on a profile page but I don't think it's too much no some people can have way too much and and that's when that stuff should roll off to a free space page but that's really good so I'm up to 1018 um a lot of a lot of stuff on here for showing um different people lots of lists love this one it's the last one we're gonna look at uh this is the only known photograph of my grandfather great great grandfather george alexander neal now pipp you and I probably connect through my stepmother's family because she was a neal and lived over you know gaston mecklenburg and all that so he lied about his age to enlist in the confederate army and was assigned to the famed bethel regiment he was only 15 at that age he was wounded on the first day of battle of geese gettysburg and lost an arm just below the left elbow george was captured four days later returning to his home in mecklenburg county north carolina he married and had three children before he died at the age of 29 in 1877 lucky man to have only lost an arm and be sent home after your first thing i mean sorry hard hard knocks to be that lucky for him but um i love that this this last comment i have a drop leaf table made by him oh wow he's a one armed woodman he's working in the wood with one arm that is just the greatest story pep that's amazing yes intense eyes i wonder what happened to him at 29 why he did well let's see uh we could try and find him let's go to pips uh let's go down here oh we can't because pips got everything private so can't do that so that was it we can we can uh did he have the profile listed anywhere no yeah there he is here we go yeah uh park rick mecklenburg boy that's a great profile too yeah well done i don't january park rick doesn't say why he died well lots of illnesses that could have gotten you in 1877 yeah yeah typhus is a big one see live how he's got all of his stuff up there at the top of the biography page and just saying just saying just saying all right so that is the question of the week is do you have any uh veterans in your family great great great excellent and i'm gonna move it on too we're moving on to the well the profiles of the week which also lead um follow the same theme which um which military hero is most closely connected to your family was the question and where are we here so um so the first the first one is is adi murphy of course of course so you i'm betting the both of you knew who adi murphy was that name's familiar to you yes not sorry well it totally was not familiar to me at all and yet um he is known as the most decorated um war hero so um from which war here we're talking we're talking the second world war um so you think that someone that famous someone who's like the most of anything is something you would think that would be um a category you'd know about but i didn't so um adi leon little texas murphy was born on the 20th of june 2025 in kingston in currently in texas um and passed away at the age of 45 on 20th of may in 1971 but uh he was the son of poor texas sharecroppers um but he became a national hero during world war two as the most decorated combat soldier of the war uh among his 33 awards was the congressional medal of honor the highest award for bravery that a soldier can receive in addition he also was decorated for bravery by the governments of france and of belgium and was credited with killing over 240 german soldiers and wounding and capturing many more um interestingly he tried to enlist in the marines and then the paratroopers but he was rejected because of his size he was only five five and 110 pounds and allegedly because he was too young but apparently his sister helped him to falsify his age on the on um on some records and then he was enlisted um just after his 18th birthday or supposedly after his 18th birthday um in fact actually if you look at his profile it says he was actually born the 20th of june 1925 but on his gravestone the government still or the uh military still had 1924 down which was what he enlisted as so so greg you're 22 from oddy murphy and betty co is 21 from oddy murphy and you're that's your closest that's the white no lu lu wallis is your closest at 19 greg your closest is i think it's going to be oddy murphy and alvin york it's interesting your your closest oh wait wait wait wait what about the ontario guy boost off the second adolf vasa your closest to him wow who's the ontario guy sir artha curry we'll get to him in a bit uh lu wallis too now i haven't even looked at mine i'll look at mine while you keep going so he had a obviously a very very decorated military career um and when he came back after after the war uh he did do some he did do some acting um the story caught the interest of superstar james cagney who invited him to hollywood and he was in a number of different movies i guess the one the red badge of courage um which is considered a minor classic but there was some politics behind it apparently at the time so it didn't do very well at the box office at the time um and uh anyway see he made 244 films altogether until they changed the structure of how films were being made and then he was out of a job um but he recognized he himself apparently suffered from ptsd and understood the importance of uh fighting that and so he helped the campaign vigorously for the government to spend more time and money taking care of vietnam war vets when it came time for that that's fantastic so that was good yeah um but sadly he passed away he was aboard a private plane on his way to a business meeting that ran at the fog near ronop virginia and crashed in the side of the mountain and that's where he that's how he died he was buried with full military honors in arlington national cemetery according to cemetery records the grave his grave site is visited by more people that the only person the only grave that's visited more often than his was president john f kennedy's wow yeah so pretty impressive but look at um one of the that's etching that etching of the family tree is breaking yeah very cool um one of the comments in the in the profile which is very well written um is about that he always had a boyish face even though which I guess was one of the reasons why he was always being rejected initially when he was trying to apply to a trying to unlist but even later on so so uh moving on charles grows right win anderson victoria cross military cross born in south africa and passed away in red hill australian capital territory in australia so he was a south african born kenyan um and obviously because he became australian later on and a soldier and a politician there he was awarded the military cross for gallantry during the first world war in mozambique and he became the only australian battalion commander in the second world war to be honored with the award of the victoria cross there's gallantry in malaya he was a prisoner of war in singapore and in tailand on the infamous berma tai railway so he actually served in both world wars um was born in 1897 um in south africa um and then they the family moved to kenya kenya um i'm not sure which the what is the proper pronunciation is it kenya or kenya these days but um uh then he was sent to england for school and uh as it was said he fought in mozambique in the first world war and then he married an australian moved to australia in 1931 and then fought for australia in the second world war in malaya in the south uh south asia area and there was capitalism but he was in charge of a number of men when he was in captivity and did a lot of things apparently to to reduce the privations of his men i guess to make conditions a little bit better um and he was beaten for that often but and like legendary has helped to help sustain prisoner morale and then he joined he did take part in politics later on there's all of his awards and i like that something they ended this profile of thank you for your service i like how they did the the background with his metals yeah that's neat eh yeah bring me um thomas william brown 1925 to 1945 so he died way too young uh uh born and died in north shield's north um blend lind uh 16 year old military hero tommy brown um so his famous because uh when he enlisted he was uh uh he joined the navy army and air force institutes uh and again another one who enlisted too early like falsified his age to get on on board or to get to to get into service um but he was part of um he was he was one of three men to board a sinking submarine a german submarine and was able to retrieve documents and he was the only one of the three that actually survived but he brought the documents back and that helped uh fleshly park to crack the enigma code do you think yeah and that was huge do you think that that these kids who are so gung-ho who want to get in early do you think that they exceeded or excelled at the at being soldiers because they felt like they had something to prove i i think that's probably a good good theory i would say yeah that they really wanted to do that it's not like they're a force to do it or they were called up and you know right you know i guess it's my turn to serve sort of thing no it's like i'm i want to go in safe world yeah also just sort of the the sense of invulnerability of youth oh yeah oh yeah yeah you see that every day don't you bet see hi i love it it is my life and along with that a one says such an innocent face i know audi murphy and yeah i'm not sure alvin york had an innocent face no maybe not as much um unfortunately he died in 1945 from injuries sustained while rescuing his sister marine so it wasn't even through it wasn't because of the war he was on he was at home on leave um and there was a house fire and he was rescuing his sister from the house fire and that he died from injuries from that so isn't that sad great space page project yes so arthur willian curry from canva actually born the 5th of december 1875 in adelaide middle six county on ontario so that's in southwestern ontario um in the london area london ontario area um died at the 30th of november 1933 at the age of 57 he was considered one of the ablest generals of world war one and led the canadian corps to several important victories including hill 70 passion dale and amion and vimmy ridge what an odd odd turn of phrase ablest ablest able to able keenest uh yeah it seems yeah you're right ablest is an interesting word um he grew up on a farm uh in middle six county and then he joined the the canadian garrison in 1894 uh start of world war one just given command of a battalion and then he advanced steadily through that winning distinction at various battles and then became a commander of the four divisions so in england he was conducted into the knight's grand cross of the order of st michael and this and st george and knight's commander of the order of the bath by king george 1920 accepted the position of principal and vice chancellor university retain that post until he died in 1933 moving on the choice of the profiles this week was really well done because it's really spread out across many nations um so that was very very cool a lot so this one here ferdinand fosche um born on the 2nd of october 1851 in table urnay france um and passed away on the 20th of march 1929 in paris in the 7th arrondissement i think is what that's referring to france uh he was a oh here we have a uh a profile totally in french um so i could read it gordon france at the militaire français général de division chelle commandant chelle de force um but uh let me just translate some of that for you he was a french general um and then later the marshal uh commandant commander in chief base of the forces of the in the grand war so world war one um he also uh founded the academy the french academy in 1918 um so he's a very um very impressive uh war leader from france in the first world war um and in fact there were there streets in in uh in paris and other cities in france named marshal foch marshal means marshal french and that was his title marshal foch so um very impressive moving on uh we have a dutch entry here cibrin eric sold out van oranjo hazelhoff wilfzema now i'm wondering if he's related to david haselhoff no no mag says no i have no idea there you go how common is haselhoff is it like smith or is it like a more unique name uh anyways he was born in 1917 actually in sor sorbaia indonesia um and he was a member of the patrician genus haselhoff wilfzema so now what do you think that means the patrician genus like are we talking like different different set of animals like i've never heard of a family grouping called a a genus people are yeah i mean that makes me think of biology class exactly exactly it looks like there aren't any great matches for your your search let me get rid of haselhoff and see if that helps okay but um um i'm wondering if it's here we go here we go what wikipedia says certain gents g-e-n-t-e-n-e-s were classified as patrician others as plebeian some had both patrician and plebeian branches so it's a class or a caste system um a caste system good isn't that interesting and is that particular to dutch families or i would i would assume but i you know what happens when you assume and chris fariella is doing some digging for david how to help her no parents okay um so in indonesia he grew up in java which was part of the former dutch uh east indies his father was successful in rubber and coffee pre branch um coffee branch and then they moved to from from there to the netherlands um he took some time to travel but when world war two broke out in the netherlands they thought netherlands would stay neutral but after the invasion by germany not so much and he continued he worked as part of the dutch underground um finished off his his law degree and signed uh signed the wall here for the sweat room but anyways his his contribution during the war was uh as part of the dutch underground there we go his story became a movie named sold out van oran soldier of orange hmm lewitt oliver is next and uh yeah yeah yeah navajo codetalker right yes so uh he was speaking of the enigma machine exactly yes so he was one of the 29 original navajo codetalkers and served alongside his brother who was obviously one of the other ones um served in the military from 42 to 45 so they were instrumental in in getting messages back and forth what's that people couldn't understand what they were saying and nobody knew what this code was yeah nobody could break the code it was it i think it's one of the best things yeah the code was they were speaking navajo yeah the problem was there's so few navajo speakers in the world no one could break it which wasn't a problem if you were a codetalker in you so um it's interesting here the very first paragraph sort of talks about his lineage um and i but i'm which is interesting because it mentions four different clans so he was born into the and i'm not i'm probably going to butcher the differentiation because i'm just guessing john tiner can you give us or what who was it that that is the person who always did our checking on our or yeah who was that oh was it john or was it steven tomas i don't know yeah uh anyways he was born into the batani which is the folded arms clan born for the traditiony the red house clan his chai was nakidene the mexican people clan and his nali was codetini the bitter water clan cool hmm so what i'd be really curious of and i'm wondering if anyone in the chat knows what does that actually mean he was when he if he was into a certain clan born for another clan and what is chai and nali i wonder if he was given those um those memberships as he progressed through life's you know things once he reached a certain age they had a ceremony to induct him into some other part of the family that would be so cool to find out yeah great what's the the source type source citation number two that's linked to that what what is that loyde over a uh over your um or all of her it's probably oh it's obituary it's obituary which if we open it up there it goes we died of pancreatitis and that's actually the type it was just taken directly from that born into born for his chai was and his nali was doesn't say what that means i'm i have a friend who is kind of an expert in all things native american and genealogy i'm gonna send them a note real quick let's see oh we have some comments in the uh chat that that tries to if born in four or into is his parents family well there you go is that a guess or is that which is that true because i was wondering my theory was that the chai and the navi were like the maternal side and the paternal side that's what i thought at first too but i have no idea well and she may be identifying that but just didn't specifically say that lana she says she's learned a lot from tony illerman okay interesting next we have harriet ross tubman born her she was born her name when she was first born was a given name was a era mint or she would go by minty she was born into slavery in 1822 um on a maryland plantation um in the south of madison in the parson's creek district of dorchester county she was the fifth of nine children her parents who married about 1808 were enslaved on neighboring maryland plantations in 1849 she escaped enslavement and worked in philadelphia she saved her money and repeated the return to maryland to rescue others the actual number of trips and people she led to freedom is unknown that's believed that she made about 13 trips over an 11-year period leading about 70 to 80 people to safety into the free northern us states as well as canada she also led a revolt uh off the coast of charleston and rescued like 300 people at in one go wow yeah so she is she was somebody that they had like that um they were looking for her yeah yeah she led the raid on uh is this the one you mean here the colby the river ferry she rescued more than or is that a different one yeah yeah yeah 750 i would lay off on my number oh and lanette says regarding the last fella um is clan members can't marry each other oh so that that would make sense that they would identify the clan that they were a part of so that they wouldn't have endogamy wow that's smart thanks for hobbling yeah that's what lanette lanette lanette that's lanette jester not more haven't no well she thinks she is right now but it's really lanette oh okay um anyways harry tom and davis uh very important conductor on the famous underground railroad that's cool yeah gustav adult veys vasa um okay we got two two left uh he was the king of sverga king of sweden born in 1594 so this is the oldest profile we have this week um preceded by carl the ninth and succeeded by christine is that his daughter yes his daughter um king of sweden from 1611 to 1632 and is credited as the founder of sweden as a great power that sweden the military supremacy during the 30 years war helping to determine the political as well as the religious balance of the power in europe he was first born he was given uh he was the seventh child so that's wow he was the seventh child of carl the ninth so you'd wonder you know the seventh person pretty far out there you wouldn't expect the the person's seventh in line to eventually become a king in some some uh cultures though the seventh child of the seventh the seventh son of the seventh son is like a lucky thing too that's true so you might have raised but there you go king of sweden and then the last one because this is oh we didn't do it all so we have two more lewis walis major general lewis walis uh born 1827 and dearborn indiana and passed away 1905 in proffersville montgomery and indiana uh he was the 10th governor of new mexico um but also a hero a hero from the us civil war and the author of ben her wow a one are you related to him because i know that you are related to some pretty high muckety mucks in new mexico so he was a general during his military service he's a general during the civil war and distinguishes a leader and a fighter was credited with saving cincinnati from the confederate army uh following his defeat at the bottle battle of monocracy in mariland he slowed the confederate advance towards washington dc giving the city time to ready its defenses so even though he technically lost that battle he slowed them down enough that it did good in the end so good stuff general lewis walis and the last one is elvin cullum cork york uh born in 1887 paul maul in tennessee passed away the age of 76 and 64 uh also in tennessee he ended the first world war as one of america's most famous soldiers with fame and popular recognition assured following our remarkable act of courage and coolness in october 1918 so let's see if i can find where that is um once in uh here it is once in france the semi-literate york earned lifetime fame for his part in an attack against a german machine gun positions on the eighth of october uh he was an acting corporal he led 17 men in action against the german stronghold um initially successful without coming under fire the small expedition took a number of prisoners before the germans launched a heavy counter attack 11 of york's men guarding the captured prisoners and the other six of them killed york resolved to proceed alone and tackle the german gunners ranged against them having shot some 17 gunners via sniping he was charged by seven germans soldiers who realized he was on his own but he killed them all with his pistol so jimmy stewart does a good job of portraying him yeah so it became a hero overnight after that's incredible there and do there he is and he does not have a baby face he does not have a baby face no no i don't know how number you'd want to be but i would not want to brush him in any quarter so there we go that's the uh and so betsey welcome to greg talks too long on profiles it's a used to it i'm sure did everybody see erin's comment just to hop in back to loyte oliver for a second yeah yeah what was that uh oh gary cooper oh my gosh i'm so so wrong okay photos of the week i share my screen um theme was um musical which may be happy because i'm a musician um and we have just about just about 12 of them um first up can everybody see my screen we get yeah i got you yes we can yes we can good um first up from mags you want to zoom that in yeah okay i will okay how's that that's great there we go and that on the back row left side is mags's grandfather you want to tell us about him a little mags well it's the same guy that we just heard about my favorite veteran who did the 17 trips around the pacific he's the second one from the left on the back row holding a cornet nice that i played all through middle school high school and university bands so wow that's clea my uh grandfather how special and you still have the cornet i no i don't oh okay we don't want to talk about that okay um he this is from wall holla high school in wall holla south carolina up in the mountains apalachia look at all of those good fiddlers out front i'm surprised somebody doesn't have a banjo no no no no wait what about this young lady here she sure does 1927 folks who love it all right right and this is a lexus nelson's aunt uh who is standing in front of her uh childhood piano with her husband she was a piano teacher uh this was one of the first ones posted the floutest from 1939 a colorized photo from yeah i can't remember who posted it but they noted that it had been colorized at that time um from kingston in canada oh right um love this one this is uh from a production of mid summer night's dream in the fifties uh and the poster was related to this little cutie in the middle of the right hand side uh i posted this this is me and my band oh nice excellent yes this the small but mighty little band we have a fiddler quite a few fiddlers this week a production of the music man 78 drums okay good bass yeah this one i had to admit this one uh so cute yeah yeah oh that is excellent this one i want to pinch those cheeks so um and then i think we had a few ones that were different we'll just hop hop over to uh this one is the size okay see see what we if we missed any um oh yes there's one one of roi clark oh wow yeah who was somehow friends with uh john's grandmother i think john is john is here yeah very very cool nice same one am i right mid summer night stream yes i was right about that um up we have a oh marching band life and drum five yep and that might be it that's it okay all right cool stuff wow let me show you mine okay there you go this is an album that my high school band recorded when i was in high school so that's me playing in the where we're there playing berry sacks that's baritone sacks for those who are baritone saxophone yes right when i had a bonding moment about that yes they did because they both played berry sacks yeah i'm also there playing clarinet in the bottom point of that picture right nice anyways that was a high school band so now you all know that the three of us are music geeks that's right true so one week we'll come in singing but i wanted to before we leave i did want to just share for those who weren't able to be part of the wiki tree um presentation i did on the latest game that i've added to wiki tree and you get to it from any page you go to the the wiki tree id menu down to dynamic tree and click on that and it's called fando ku um and if you if it pops up with another the dynamic tree remembers where you were last so obviously i was last on the fando game but if you were on somewhere else you just click on the list and you choose it from the list of of views and these were all things that were done during hectober fest and i've gone over some of these in various various places but we're going to look at the fando game and i'm going to actually change it to my profile but i have a better chance of actually winning but i encourage you all to go to your own profiles and choose fando so you can play along or whatever but um oh wow this is really large since i've enlarged it so much but what a great game to get your kids involved yeah and you know i've had lots of positive responses in the g2g post and about just that about um someone said they played it with their granddaughter already and one made a comment about you know setting this up at christmas time when the family gets together reunions it's got a time element so if you know if you like the little pressure if you're competitive oh good you added that um so basically um what it is it's a combination of a fan chart and sudoku basically you have to fill in your um your the ancestors where they go in the fan chart so it really has nothing to do with sudoku i'm just saying that well it does if you go to sudoku mode so initially if you just use if you just choose the exact options that are there it picks um it sorts all the ancestors in regular fan chart methods so um this uh right here called well actually i know who belongs right there so and then you just you pick you pick an ancestor and you put them in where it belongs and you can see uh whatever you can see at the top here so there's the time is advancing it's 30 seconds now since i started the game and i placed four out of the 14 ancestors i've missed none of them but if i try to put dona right here that's wrong um and it says miss now i've turned off the sound oh yeah i love the sound uh or i have it may not come through your speakers very well though let's go in please so if i turn on the sound then you hear oh you don't hear maybe the sound's not coming through yeah no it probably won't especially since you're on your laptop right yes that piece of crap yeah anyways there's a ding that plays and when you do something really good you get cheered that's right when you finish the whole thing you get the cheer yes so well i really like the the yay and correct the mundo oh oh here are the messages yes nice touch i tried to i had i think i came up with 18 different variations of positive affirmations um but let's uh here now let me change back to now if you go into fandoku mode so this is where it gets a little more tricky uh mags um instead of having your oh well let me just show in traditional mode if i show the gender colors what that means is so the the men go in the light blue squares and the women go in the light pink squares and on a traditional fan chart it's always the ancestors of any person when you move up and outwards it's always male female so male female male female and it's always in that order so you always know where everyone fits right um but when we switch to fandoku style then that ordering is more is randomized so in this one so the first two are still male female but this last one is female male and depending on it's it's it's all random so sometimes it'll be it'll be just one that'll be different and dependent if you have multiple if you have multiple generations um one of the things i added was the ability to have i just i updated it just yesterday actually and i've added two uh a couple new features one is the ability to go up as far as seven generations which is a little crazy i'm gonna go back up the full screen for that right um because it means a lot of dragging around probably or using have a really large monitor um but if you're at a family reunion and you had this projected against a wall then this would be kind of cool that absolutely yeah and if you had a whiteboard in a classroom betsy yes yep us you know that would be amazing you guys are geeks ha ha ha ha guilty as charged yes guilty as charged uh let me go back down to um let's let's go back to four um the other thing i added uh was the ability to show lifespan because some people were saying that it was it was a little more it was too difficult and they need a little bit hint and they also um people who had ancestors that had the exact same names they were you know there was it was too difficult to figure out where they went now i've got it programmed so that if they have the if they do have the exact same name so if there's two john smiths in your fan chart if you no matter which one you clicked on in the outer list here as long as you clicked on a cell where ad john smith was supposed to go it registered it is correct and it filled it in properly so i could put my father as my my grandfather's father you could if they had the exact same name now if their name if one was listed in wiki tree as joe and the other was as joseph then it went that way but is it joseph joseph and my grandfather is earl without an e and my grand my father is earl with an e so they would not match that hurt he one of his uh teachers in elementary school made him add the e made him add the e isn't that funny that is crazy wow that was horrible do you have you have the the dates the birth and death dates on there right i do i added that as an option so when you um and it's new so it's under hints so it's another hint that you can add it to to make it more difficult for yourself or make it easier for yourself i should say the other thing that i added this this time was um you see how the there's always um there's one person that's highlighted there and that's the person that you um you're trying to find a spot for and uh i believe she goes okay she is uh i think she might go there nope but there there we go so i missed one i got one wrong ding ding yeah it would have dinged it should have dinged at me um um but if there's no one highlighted it used to be that if you've dragged it if you moved it around it would count as an extra miss and so people were complaining that they were getting misses counted against them but they were just repositioning the fan chart so i've changed the code so that if if something's highlighted and you grab the fan chart to move it then that counts as a miss because it thinks i want it to go in that blue spot there yeah okay to see that but so let me position mahi i'll just see and she belongs there yes i should have now there's no one highlighted so i can grab anywhere even in the fan chart but you can you don't actually have to grab the fan chart you can just grab outside of the fan chart boy it's a minute 10 greg you are so slow okay the other thing i did was um i used to have the tab key to go from one to another but i changed that because the tab he also went up into the the url bar so i've now changed it to a the z and the x key and so you can go forward with the x and backwards with the z almost as if you're playing a video game awesome love it there's the fandoku game hope you enjoy it and without my laptop while it's in the shop my good laptop i'm not going to do any more programming this week so i might actually do some genealogy this week and work on my family tree for a change we got some stuff coming up angela landsbury is our wiki tree challenge you can check out the highlights from her time interesting discussion yesterday on in the genealogy squad chris fariello posted that we were working on celebrity people for a challenge this year and there were a few people who came in and said hey chris who cares about celebrities and i was like whoa wait it's not about the celebrity the celebrity is just a fun place to start it's connecting the rest of the stuff to the tree so that was an interesting conversation in that those those naysayers stopped naysaying so chris did a good job of promoting that yesterday um how would you like to see us celebrate wiki tree's 50th anniversary next year are we going to have another wiki tree day in supposium are we going to just have a day of wiki tree fan duke go fan duke go i can't even say so duke and doku and doku so go in and comment on that the challenge 21 for robbie coltrane's ancestors so you can jump in on that and have you seen the wiki tree browser extension that is a new browser extension that uh is up i have not tried it yet but i'm going to today i hope make sure you vote those answers and questions i will check it that out yeah we will be back here next week uh and we will see you uh if there's not something else that somebody else wants to to throw up but uh we'll see you next week same place same channel and bet you go we'll be back but actually i won't be back next week i have you just started and now you're taking a day off i know show everybody your mug real quick canada she she tried to she tried to sweet talk us by drinking out of a canada mug this morning i'm just saying that's great so that is your wiki tree broadcast livecast for the week and we will see you next time see you next time everyone bye we'll see you