 Telephone conversation between President Johnson and Congressman Les Arons on November 29, 1963, at 6.15 p.m. Please do, and I've just waited most of these boys are going to be leaving here, and not later than 6.30, and I've tried to get in over an hour. Do you want to make this release tonight? Well, I'm going to make an announcement tonight. It's just a question that I'd just like to be able to say that I had consulted with the leadership. It's a presidential commission, you see, and I just want to work with my friends. That's why I called you back, Mr. President. What I want to do is I want to try to get someone that's pretty familiar with the defense picture and the foreign relations picture, and also the CIA picture, you see, the Hoover picture. That's why I'm trying to get the man that handled the kind of high-up on military over in the house, but a Russell on Armed Services in the Senate. Cooper's a former ambassador to India, you see, and McClure is a former ambassador. McClure and Dulles is former CIA, and I don't know, I have no particular reason for interest in the Republicans, but the hell of it is, you can't clear these things. You can't even talk to them, you can't get them. Mike Mansfield's in Florida, Dirksen's in Illinois. Well, let me see if I can get him, but in the meantime, I didn't want to be in a position where I put an OK on something and then find out that Charlie was jumping or something. Well, I have no, what I was just going to do, I was going to try to get him for another 15 minutes and then have to decide what to do about it because he was... I work out, too. I try to call you back with him. Fine, just tell him what we'd like to do is have men with the military background, the CIA background, the appropriation background, see, we're doing a good deal in this field, that I think you are on the committee, aren't you? On the office. You're on the office, subcommittee there, and so we're trying to spread it out and we're getting a chairman of armed services, one group, you see, and we're trying to go to appropriations with the other that handles appropriations and we're trying to go to somebody that has a good deal of foreign service like John Cooper, Ambassador. In Dallas, you see the CIA and Hale's been talking about this thing and he talked a little too much today. You know, members of Congress. Well, that's trouble. They all talk, you know, and you tell them, he called down here and said this fellow was talking, and I said, well, I'm trying to work out things like that. Yeah, that's right. Well, you're doing the right thing on this. But if I talk to them, they talk to the press, so you try to get back to the 15th. We'll do it quickly again. Bye.