 What's going on guys? I am here with the lovely young Tayla and like other vegans. She has had Very similar experiences almost like a cookie cutter story these vegans tend to fall into it the same way they suffer from similar symptoms and it's Incredibly interesting how This hasn't really been uncovered more. That's why we're here. So I'm going to let Tayla tell us her story and Her I guess negative and if there were any positive experiences from veganism Hi, so I Suppose I'll start with when I went vegan. So I went vegan in 2015 Kind of the usual way everyone goes vegan at the time. I had a really atrocious diet And I was looking for something to be a bit healthier and to lose a bit of weight and to look good so I was researching all different types of diets and and First of all, I was going to go with the Okinawan diet. So like fish rice vegetables all that type of stuff, but I came across Vegocated and I watched it that night and The next day I became vegan I didn't do any preparation like I didn't buy any groceries in or anything I literally just decided the next day when I woke up. That's it. No more animal products from here on out Before I had been kind of having some issues with dairy. So I figured if I'm giving up dairy, I might as well Just give everything else up so I Did that the first day I was vegan was probably the most miserable day of eating I've ever had in my entire life so I There wasn't much like at the time there wasn't much in Ireland For vegans to eat. So I think for lunch that day. I had couscous and a banana or something for lunch It was the only thing I could find that didn't have animal products not to so what was the actual main selling point? Was it like this documentary did it reinforce the conventional wisdom? You've been told your whole life about fruits and vegetables being healthy Yes, give you some sort of like moral or ethical belief environmental or was it like a combination of things? It was a combination. Yeah, like I mean It seemed like the healthiest diet that was around at the time it made sense to me You know you eat all your vegetables and your fruit and you get healthier And also like I'm a big lover of animals. So there was the ethical side of it, too So when when you say it was healthier, do you have something you were thinking in your head about why it was healthier? Was it maybe Did you view just vegetables that they were healthy? Did you think they had a vitamin and mineral content to them? Did you think that? Because they were lower calorie that they were healthy like well, do you remember or was it just like really just the conventional wisdom? Oh, yeah, of course, who's in vegetables make you healthy, but then what's the definition of healthy? Well for me, it was the usual thing like I mean if you have you seen vegetative like they kind of that's literally the only like I've heard of a lot of people watch what the health they watch Caspiracy watch forks over knives. Yeah, a lot of documentaries they watch a vegetative. I'm assuming is Well, I know like in vegetative. This is one girl. She's from like a Latino family and basically She she eats all of all of the the home meals that her mother cooks and they all have meat and like pork and everything in them And she just gets slated by the girl who's presenting the show being like this is full of cholesterol and and that's gonna You know your your heart's gonna give up and your digestion is good You're gonna get colon cancer, you know, like she scares this girl into becoming vegan So there's like four people who I think they do veganism for a month or something like there's one woman and she has Young kids and she does it and you can see her bragging halfway through it Like I've everyone's converted to soy milk now, you know, this kind of thing Collesterol so bad. Why does our body make it right? Yeah, exactly. So Yeah, basically it was a combination of the ethical side of veganism and the health side being you know, I'm thinking Okay, so it's better for your digestion. It's better for your heart I'm gonna live so long just living off vegetables and and you know I'm I'm gonna be like an old Japanese lady. I'm just gonna be completely healthy and thriving off of this diet and So it was a better week into My first miserable day of after my first miserable day of being vegan that I found freely the banana girl I was researching vegan veganism then after that and I decided to follow the raw till four So I thought that that sounds great. She looks great, you know, she she looks super healthy She's super thin her skin looks fantastic, so The first thing I did was I went out and I bought all of the fruit all of the bananas the dates the coconut sugar and In the morning, I think I would have like a smoothie about that size Like about the bed that size just fucking jam packed full of I think I would put in a handful of Mediol dates and you know medial dates are like that size like they're huge And then I would put in like five bananas Some coconut sugar although even then even then even though I was going into it the coconut sugar like adding sugar to everything Seemed a bit mad to me. Even then I was thinking this. I don't know sugar is bad for you, right? It so it was kind of click and then So I did that for about four months Where I would have a huge smoothie in the morning salad at lunchtime and work and then I would come home and have a Bowl about that size of either potatoes or pasta with tomato sauce Did you ever supplement at that time or at that time I did not supplement, okay? Yeah, so God knows what was going on with my body at that time And that's the big thing though you you got convinced and you guys might be thinking oh This girl didn't supplement. She didn't do it right Well, she came across all this vegan information and it wasn't clearly laid out to her And this is part of the problem of the vegan diet. You guys are you people keep claiming? Oh, you just didn't do the vegan diet if the diet is so difficult to do properly Yeah, why are so many people doing it differently and why is there no clarification and no concrete things that people hear immediately? Like when someone says oh, you know people don't come up to you Oh take a piece take a B12 supplement and go on a vegan diet. They don't say they don't say it like that No, it's like do this and everything will be covered. Yeah, and then and then you're into it You realize oh, I was supposed to be taking me tall But why did no one tell me that because it doesn't make the diet look good Unfortunately, so you're doing roto for how long do that? Yeah, so I was doing roto for I remember I actually used to but I used to have my pasta in a fruit bowl My mom had this fruit ball in the house. That's how big Yeah, it was in a fucking fruit bowl I remember I used to brag to everyone being like look at how much food I can eat and I'm still losing weight and I look great and blah, you know But uh Even still though after I would eat that food my stomach would expand to like a beach ball size. It was Huge it would be like that for about a half an hour and then it would go back down but I did that for like three and a half months and I gave it up because I just couldn't digest the food the amount of food that I had to eat and it was Every hour I was hungry like my stomach would be growling my my limbs would feel shaky and weak Because I had to just keep replenishing my energy stores every hour And I said this doesn't make sense. I think I need, you know more cooked meals I need something that's a little bit more You know Satisfying to have during the day uh So I gave that up and then I continued to eat just kind of like a balanced Balanced vegan diet, you know, so uh, I started having soups during the day and toast Lots of avocado toast with pepper and salt and all that type of stuff Uh, and fun fact, did you know that avocados never yielded as much food as they do now another product of modern agriculture? There you go But did this did incorporating the cooked foods help at all like in regards to that? Yeah, I mean it helped a little bit with satiation So I I was I wasn't as hungry when you eat a ton of raw food like it's crazy how much Stuff you put in there and you never feel satisfied. I was never satisfied Yeah, and like and as well, I just constantly farted like a dairy cow like all day during during work I remember like a new girl came into came into the job and the first thing I did when I said later I was like, hello. I fart all day. Nice to meet you and that was That was my life like that it was just I had to accept that because I was vegan, you know um, so Yeah, I I stayed on the cook foods and then we can fast forward a little bit then to 2016 and I went to Berlin for like three weeks and it was like a big Party every night that type of thing. It was just a holiday. Most people are familiar with Berlin Yeah, it's totally hedonistic. Like it's have you ever seen that painting the garden of earthly delights I might have but I'll have to top my head. I don't remember. It's just like a bunch of like naked people rolling around with people That's brilliant So I went to Berlin. So it was just it was just basically three weeks of partying and the odd time I would have some schnitzel to recover after uh Drinking for probably up till six in the morning, you know, uh, what was your drink of choice? Sternberg 20 Cent a bottle. It's about that size It's a beer german beer really good actually really good and then the the next day you'd get a it's called a club matta Or something. I don't know my my cousin. He lives there and he always slags me for the way I say it But it's meant to be a recovery drink. It's like green tea and all of these minerals. So that's like the number one german hangover cure But that Yeah, so I I partied for like three weeks and I came back and After that holiday was when my health started to go downhill so I thought So you've been on like a three week bender Maybe it's just your body recovering so Uh, I'm sorry, but did you party like before you went out to berlin? Like you were maybe like once or twice a week Well, maybe once or twice a week, but not consistently. So it's not something like I mean you were doing it, but yeah, you just did it a little more It was like that was it's not like you never drank and then went out to get you know To kill to try to kill your liver in three weeks, you know, that's not what you do I think it was It was almost as if that trip was the catalyst for whatever damage I had done to myself by eating nothing But raw vegetables for three fucking months like a little while before you know so When I came back I was Starting to just feel shitty on a daily basis And the only way I can describe it. It's like the hangover never cleared from berlin So I constantly had that hungover feeling then I started in drama college in September of that year and I was passing out quite a lot like I was Getting woozy all the time I had no concentration You know, I used to have this great sharp wit And that was just disappearing like I was becoming this zombie version of myself My skin started to just break out all over I was getting pimples on my forehead On my cheeks on my nose on my chin like just really bad hormonal breakouts and I didn't put two and two together. I was still following vegan diet then And I then started working in a health food store And then the health food store my consumption of processed vegan foods as opposed to home cooked You know vegan like meals with with good vegetables and stuff Started to go up And I used to have to go home quite a lot from from work like take sick days Because I would just get like I used to get these My whole body would just shake Did you start the supplementing at this time? At the health not straight into it not straight into it So I probably started the the supplementing about About a month in So I remember actually explaining to some of the girls that work there my my health problems. I was like, you know I feel so weak all the time. I'm so tired. So they give me iron. They give me b12. They give me D3 and they give me The vegan dha supplement the on water. Yeah on water. Yeah So I had started all of that but but nothing really improved and I found myself craving me like If someone was actually I remember one day I Got up I got dressed and I made my way across town about a half an hour across town because there's this place that sells Like phenomenally good quality steaks. I got across town To just buy two of those steaks and a bag of broccoli That's all I could think about for the whole day was I want two steaks and broccoli And this I had meat and red meat in like Three years or no two years. Sorry two years, but at stage. So I brought that back and cooked it straight away and devoured it Two steaks after two years of not eating and it was just an intense craving like it moved me across the city center and So Yeah, one night I was in work And this is about You know, it's funny that started over people there was a recently on the plant-based news youtube channel They had this doctor on and he's like, oh, yeah I saw him these people have a meat fixation and they never get over it And it's like they catch this meat virus that they need meat and they just It's it's insane that this is a grain into human biology. Yeah, we need animal foods You would take health advice though. He looks like a scrotum stretched over a knee like he is so He literally looks like a zombie like usually when I call vegan zombies. I'm exaggerating, but this guy He is a zombie Use the word ghoul Possibly goblin as well. He's a bit of a nose for that too Did you notice anything when you ate those steaks? Oh, I felt so good Oh, I I I felt I actually I called my boyfriend straight afterwards and I was like, I feel fucking amazing I was like, I feel great. I just say two steaks and I am ready to kick the world's ass right now But take a take a run through some drywall. That wasn't enough I went back. I went back to veganism After that after those two steaks, I went back to veganism. This is what gets really crazy to me Yeah, these people have all these health problems on veganism Bonnie Rebecca And she starts eating eggs and it fixes everything and she's still like, oh, but vegan is still good It's still good. Vegan's fine. Vegan's good. It's just the brainwashing. It's just I just don't I mean, I'm missing that part of my brain, but I don't It's crazy I think I think a part of it is the the fear of the Attacked I'm gonna stab you with a piece of asparagus. Yeah, but you know, who gives a shit about people I don't care about the type of people who would give out to someone for looking after their own health I don't care about those people, you know Like their pieces of shit people like that are really bad. What was the you said? Did you have any experiences at this health food store? Hi, because I actually spoke to a young lady yesterday and ironically She worked at a health food store and was surrounded by happy vegans too. Yeah. Was it similar? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I remember one day this woman came in and she had this three-year-old child And she was just slumped over a shoulder So when you think of a three-year-old you picture this excited little bean of energy just running around the place and fucking shit up That's what they're meant to be doing. That's what three-year-old was on the subway yesterday And this little kid came in just screaming like I was like, oh my god, I wish I had that They're they're terrors, but that's great because they're full of life. They're meant to be that way You know, but this kid was like like a sloth just slumped over her her mother's shoulders And her skin was Gray like that's the only way I can describe it. She was fair. You know, she was a little blonde girl Her skin was gray and under her eyes. She had these deep purple bags She just looked so unhealthy. Her lips had no color to them. They were completely pale and she Was so limp and floppy She just did not look well. There wasn't a child that was tired It was a child that was unwell and the mother was asking for I think it was a b12 supplement For the child and she was like, oh, she's vegan. So I just want to make sure she's covered You know, she's covered in in all areas And we didn't do supplements for children under the age of six In the store at that time They just don't exist because it's it's taken for granted that A toddler should have a healthy balanced diet and shouldn't need anything unless prescribed by a doctor Unless they have some sort of a condition or whatever, you know and But yeah, when I saw that That was really a smack in the face about the vegan diet. I'm like That child looks so Lifeless. So what the fuck is it doing to me? You know so Yeah I used to get a lot of crazy vegans in there. Um But yeah, one nice I'll tell you well, I tell you the story of what kind of Got me into hospital and Yo, we could go into that. So basically to sum things up so far you get in dog You watch a vegan classic D vegan documentary vegan the next day do it for two years very similar things to other vegans. You've tried You know various versions of freely world to four what most people consider a whole foods plant-based diet And yet they'll still insist you're not doing it, right? You start taking supplements and the supplements that they make any significant difference or You didn't really notice anything Yeah, so I mean the guys just because you're putting something into your body doesn't mean you're absorbing it. Um, you know, if I You know, if I drink A cup of flaxseed oil and my liver fails. Do you think I got my dha? Do you think I got my dha guys? So that's something to keep in mind blood levels are not correlative of tissue levels and this is very persistent in d3 supplements because Unvegans take d3 supplements They can't actually metabolize it in the body. So despite how much they take their blood levels will always be low So Definitely something interesting there. So, you know, you're vegan for about two years the first year was You were pretty much strict vegan Yeah, and I was relying on the plants And then the second year was When you had the cravings, right? And that you acted on that craving with the steak But did you have any other cravings that you acted on did that happen again? Sometimes I would crave fish or eggs So, I mean it would be very rare and it would be with a lot of guilt that I would give into those cravings So like every two or three months it would be like you just you were craving it so much You just literally ran to the store and bought it Yeah, or like if I was hungover and everyone was having a big Irish fry up in the morning And those those rashers were in front of me and the sausages and the pudding and all that type of stuff. I yeah, I couldn't resist And what vegans think is when when they look at that plate of meat, they think guilt shame That it's bad for you that there's some polar ethical What you're literally doing is depriving yourself of vitamins you need to survive Yeah When that you have that poor little girl with gray skin that's about to play an extra in lord of the rings A smiggle, you know, like like at what point do you say? This is insane, but so Then after this two years of veganism things just started really going downhill Yeah, the main catalyst was that trip to Berlin though. Was it I think that might have been the catalyst I mean, I didn't look after any of my nutrition when I was in Berlin. I just partied and I ate whatever I could eat Uh But yeah, it all started to fall apart after that with the dizzy spells and passing out and stuff like that Uh, but one night I was in Work, so this is when it really kind of came to a head I was in work and the week before I had been trying to be really strict about my diet And really strict meant really vegan So I had been making all of my food from scratch And I'd been trying my best to be healthy that week drinking water I've making sure I got my water for the day and I was making like ginger Turmeric squash soup, you know anti inflammatory all of this type of stuff. Uh So tax boys. Yeah, so I was really strict that week and We were closing up in work So getting to the last hour when I was messing around with some essential oils That's what you do when you're in a health food store Uh, and I thought that maybe accidentally I had gotten some of the essential oil on my lip Because my lip had started to go numb For those of you guys that have never gotten like clove oil or peppermint oil on your lips and like it is It's one of the worst things you could put on your skin. Yeah Now this I think it was black pepper oil black pepper oil that I was messing around with smelling. Oh god So I thought that maybe I didn't I said, oh no, I didn't like I I can't remember touching my face or anything So then the numbness started to spread from my lip then down to my jaw and then across to my cheek So I asked my boss if I could go to the bathroom and check my face As if my face is going numb so he kind of looked at me and he was like, yeah, so I went in and my whole face was just like completely slouched to one side completely droopy Which is quite scary. This is not like this is not a This is a b12 deficiency nerve damage. It's very this is a high correlation And you know, just like my grandma has been taking a statin for Month and I keep telling my parents, you know, it's not um, excuse my grandma I can't you know, I mean she's got four kids herself So I'm telling like my uncle my mother like tell grandma to stop taking the statin And like my grandma's dementia is slowly getting worse and the second she stops taking the statin Yeah Back to being sharp and if you look up and her she was getting tingling hands and feet and if you google statin Tingling hands and feet if you google vegan Tingling and face. It's a b12 deficiency. These people are literally five seconds of googling answers your question So what are they seriously thinking? Yeah And to me the worst part about this is and and not to give away your story, but you know, if you go to a medical doctor They're not diagnosing a possible. They don't they don't think b12 deficiency because how many vegans do they see? You know, they're thinking what what the hell could be wrong with this girl They don't have an understanding of nutrition. So And I had told them that I was vegan as well when I went into the doctors I told them and they just kind of brushed it off like diet doesn't mean anything With your health. They they thought that I had a neurological condition So when I went to my doctors, I went to the doctors the next day and he thought it might have been temporal lobe epilepsy so To kind of explain further the numbness got worse. It went down into my arm and it went down into my leg So it was like the whole left side of my body And uh, he sent me to the emergency room So I went to the emergency room and I was there straight in got a CT scan and a chest x-ray Which I think is just procedural And then they said that they wanted to keep me in overnight Uh, and I was there for a week So I was there for a week getting every test under the sun and I had said a couple of times. Look, uh, I'm I'm vegan and Is this a b12 deficiency? You know that there's such thing as a I think it's called peripheral neuropathy Which can happen from a beach and they're like, oh, no, your b12 levels are normal. They're fine They're there's nothing to worry about there. So they were looking for either uh multiple sclerosis Or I think it was myasthenia gravus which are both really serious conditions and When I got my MRI results back the first time there was tiny t2 hyper intensities Which are like Small lesions, but they couldn't explain why they were there. So my brain first brain scan showed abnormalities and so They had no idea what was wrong with me. I got a lumbar puncture as well So lumbar puncture is like a needle into the spine. They take a spinal fluid and it's really nasty It was like the worst thing I've ever had to go through When I got out of hospital, I went back to work for like a day or two, but I just couldn't do it because I was so weak Uh, I was progressively getting worse now at this stage, I wasn't Maybe strictly weak and after I got out of hospital. I had no energy. I had I was basically bedridden Um, whatever was going on with my body. I couldn't sit up. I was Just like I mean b12 is required for energy metabolism. It's as simple as that. It's yeah people don't understand that the metabolic pathways with vitamins are so broad It's it's too hard to comprehend how important they are literally Like it could be as big as every cell in your body requiring b12 to be made. It's it's really down to that So for I was out of work for six months. I was sick for six months Um, and I had no idea what was wrong with me. I went back into hospital again About five months in because my leg was completely paralyzed. My left leg just didn't work Like I couldn't move it. I couldn't walk And it was like that for about two weeks and the third week it started to clear up And I was left with a weakness on that side So at this time, were you still like mostly plant-based? Mostly plant-based, but if my mom was making foods I was going to eat it because I had no energy to cook myself I would just eat whatever I could get my hands on but yeah, mostly plant-based And I was still really trying even though I had no energy to make an effort to be plant-based Like I was I was writing my shopping lists for other people being like, please go and get me almond milk Please go and get me couscous. Please go and get me hummus. You know Yeah, I don't want to eat meat anymore I was convinced that the fact that I was eating bits of meat was actually going to make me worse Like convinced that that was worse for me than eating a completely vegan diet So yeah, a couple of months Down the line being really sick having no idea what's wrong with me. No diagnosis And and no treatment because they can't treat you for something which they don't know what it is So I couldn't get medication. I mean I was at the stage where I was thinking maybe I'm going to have to get a little Cruel intention style vial of cocaine and just cart myself around on a wheelchair every day because that's the only way I would have energy and the only way it could be mobile so Yeah, I was out with my boyfriend one day and he He watches the Joe Rogan podcast like religiously And Jordan Peterson was on talking about it's that famous Clip, you know where he's talking about his daughter and the carnivore diet So he starts telling me about this And I go crazy out of my flip out and I'm like, oh, yeah, so I can feel better but I'm gonna have colon cancer and I'm gonna die of heart disease Is that what you're saying to me? That's that's what's gonna happen. Those are my choices feel better or You know Feel better and die of cancer or feel like shit And have a healthy colon. That's what I thought it was But he he kind of incepted me He planted a seed in my brain because I started to research it then and I researched macaela peterson's story And I thought fuck it. I'll try it. I'll do anything for a month I can do anything for a month and see how it goes So I was like, sorry piggies and cows, but I got to come first in this situation And and I did it and a week It was a week. I think when I'd say 98 percent of my symptoms cleared up Like 98 completely gone. I'd been bedridden for six months and it was a week into eating Just meat. I was I was eating maybe Spinach as well. I was eating spinach and avocado. So it wasn't completely Totally just me got to get those calcium oxalates in from this Yeah, and I was having eggs. So I thought the meat and eggs and but yeah The majority of it was meat and no no gluten or anything like that like no No couscous anymore. No, uh, no sugar. Nothing like that. So yeah a weekend and I felt like a new person like I felt Better than I felt when I was 16 Like I had more energy Than when I was a young teenager So it was just it was just incredible to me and there was a lot of similarities as well between myself and Michaela Peterson I remember Jordan Peterson was saying that he noticed Michaela used to get a rash whenever she ate strawberries when she was a kid Which I was the same. So my my whole life. I've always been kind of allergic to Lots of different foods always had reactions and there was I wasn't allowed to eat cream when I was a kid. So which cream wasn't allowed because I would be up crying all night with stomach cramps and uh, so yeah, I've always had food allergies Growing up. So it kind of makes sense that if I cut everything out, I feel a hundred times better and I'm also kind of Bombarding myself with nutrients. So yeah, it was just spectacular the the transformation As soon as I started eating meat And now we're all driving Mercedes from the meat lobby, right? They all paid us So much money for making this video that I have a Mercedes in my driveway. It's not actually a 2001 four tourists You know that that just the water pump just fell off the other day. That's not actually what I'm driving. So Yeah, I mean, uh, so carnival diet fixes your symptoms. This is something we we've we see and these anecdotes over and over again But we have to dismiss anecdotes because it doesn't fall in line with conventional wisdom, right? Uh, I guess just what like have you noticed positive benefits? That really you've never noticed in your life from the carnival diet outside of the remission of your symptoms Um, so I've always had like kind of stomach problems really bad stomach issues and I thought that I had IBS And and I don't have any of those anymore and The odd time if I eat something like If I have duck fat sometimes if I have duck fat, I'll I'll feel a little bit ill afterwards High high omega six the rendered fat Compromise cell structure oxidized doesn't digest well anyone having digestive issues It's either the high omega six or the rendered fat. It could be an issue. Yeah, exactly But it is delicious and it tastes like gravy That's really good. It is so good Uh, I so I've no no digestion. My skin has cleared up. I actually have a small break out now at the moment But I was in London there the other day and I had poor crackling from marx and spencers I'm pretty sure was that Yeah, exactly. I get I get acne from pork and deduct to I Yeah, pork is really bad. Like if I have a bacon, even if it's bacon, that's completely sugar-free and without any nitrates It just yeah, so Yeah, my skin is better. My energy levels are fantastic. My The leg that went that was paralyzed was weak For ages after that episode and now it's completely healed up. Like I have full strength uh, I'm So much more flexible everything moves better and I'm just stronger All over just completely stronger And how long have you been carnivore now? Seven months. Oh, wow. Yeah, has your body composition changed? Yeah, I've lost 35 pounds. Oh, wow. Um, I haven't done any of those. I haven't Checked to see what my body fat levels are or anything like that. Um, and I haven't gone for any blood tests since I started so I'd be curious to go actually I was anemic That was the one thing that they said to me in the hospital was that I was anemic That's important detail. That is the one detail. So I think I think uh The majority of vegans are anemic and it's crazy how casually they brush that off So, you know, there's a bunch of overarching issues with deficiencies on the vegan diet Most of them do develop b12. It seems like the b12 supplement can help Uh, the problem is that these omega 3 deficiencies these vitamin a deficiencies Most of the population has these so they're not noticing that same especially d3. Yeah, the anemia though that is Almost every vegan becomes anemic animals every vegetarian becomes anemic and they cannot prevent it The only way to prevent anemia is to consume some animal foods I think even just 5 to 10 percent of your calories amount of foods might prevent anemia But speaking of these animal foods you being in ireland the land of I mean I'm I'm dreaming of if I ever get to visit ireland I'm dreaming I'm going to walk into a field and the grass is going to be taller than me And it's going to be like it's going to be like a forest green color. Am I right? Yeah, yeah, it is. It's pretty green. It's really green when you fly over it as well it's just like a blanket of like a A patchwork quilt of green I feel like I would dress up as a cow for a day and just start eating grass And how good the grass looked over there. Maybe some vegans want to join me If any of you guys want to fund frankie's grass adventures in ireland, let's yeah, let's let's start to go No, but no on a serious note You guys are known for very high quality animal products, right? Yeah, we have really high quality beef I mean the majority of our beef is grass fed and and The grain fed beef from ireland is actually exported It's exported. So if you get ireish beef more than likely it's grain fed we get all the good stuff here Unless it's going to like big big restaurants that type of thing and really good quality lamb lots of free-range chickens and Proper free range like in fields not in a slightly larger cage. Not yeah, right? Yeah We gave them two more inches on each side of the cage. Yeah. What else do you want? Exactly like chickens that go around and and they're they're eating groves and they're eating maggots and that type of stuff So they've got a diverse diet. It's not just corn and all that crap And yeah, we've got really good quality animal products here really good quality dairy The ireish milk full fat milk is delicious. Most people will say carry gold But carry gold actually isn't usually from ireland. So what are you gonna do? Yeah, most people don't know that carry gold. They think it's ireish butter. It's not actually ireish butter Uh If I could send you some ireish dairy, I would but I don't think it would fare too well in the post Yeah, I don't think they would uh, they probably cut it open and uh, they wouldn't allow it to be sent One interesting thing that I just just came back in my mind was the I have a theory and I've had people tell me not it's my not my theory Some people told me this that the mad cow disease Craze in the uk was partially I mean well the reason it started hypothetically was They fed sheep that had scrappy to the cows somehow they ground up some bone meal And that's how the cows got mad cow disease There's also a conspiracy that it might have just been A ploy to make it so ireland and uk can't import beef to the united states anymore So that the beef in the united states can take over so And that's and there's also like south america doesn't import beef The only country that imports beef to the us is australia and new zealand And I just don't it's very it's a very like foggy subject For sure like it's not it's questionable Definitely something interesting to know that's why we can't get for those of you guys are like She was saying oh if you get ireish imported beef But the reason you've never seen ireish imported beef in america is because it's not allowed Yeah, you know, you know, I didn't know that that's crazy. You know, it's it's I'm a little salty about it, but uh What are you gonna do? It's it's it's unfortunate. They just Well, if you ever come to ireland, I'll show you all the good places We can go and get a big a big uh t-bone. There's a great place over here called The FX Buckley and they do all grass-fed beef and you can get your steak plain The only one I heard of is hawksmore, but that's in uk, right? I don't know if you've heard of them. Oh, I've never heard of that. No, I think they're there in london Uh, what was I gonna say? Now I used to work. I used to bar down at an ireish bar. Oh, really? Yeah Yeah Did everyone get super drunk and rowdy there? It's like I was like I was like That one of the only non ireish people working there. It wasn't too crazy. Um, I mean, you know oscar wild Yeah, it's the name of the bar in new york city Very ornate place You guys school that pretty cool spot. I don't work there anymore, but That's my that's my recollection of ireland Actually, interesting fact about those ireish pubs. There's actually a factory in china That mass produces everything for those ireish pubs. So, you know that all the antique bullshit is mass produced So you you're like, okay I want the the the paddies package and they send you like the package with all of the The old ship wheels and all that type of stuff. Yeah, so it's it's mass produced in china Now I know how they open that rest now. I know how they open that bar so quickly. Yeah It's funny. Yeah I don't want to talk negatively, but figure Did you have any, uh, I mean that was a very clear concise story at the very good. So did you have any like Notes things to tell people. I mean, obviously there's a big message in People really being ingrained into vegan But did you have a message about that and and kind of like what finally clicked in your head about I think when you actually went carnivore and saw that everything went away Yeah, like the one thing I would say to anyone out there who is trying to be vegan I ignored all the warning signs Like I ignored all of them and I I put it down to Like there's a lot of autoimmune diseases in my family And I just thought right. That's my destiny. That's probably just the way it's gonna go But it doesn't have to be You know reexamine your diet See what you're taking in are you having a lot of sugar are you having a lot of processed grains and reevaluate things Before you Resign yourself to just being a sick person. That that's what I would say because Had I not tried the carnivore diet? I would probably now be in the same position but pumped full of steroids actually It was a while after when I when I got a diagnosis as such They they said that it was probably a condition called hemiplegic migraines So it's a very rare migraine disorder That causes you to go numb down one side of your body At this point I was about a month into being carnivore And they asked me if I wanted to go on medication for us and the medication is ketamine and beta blockers Sounds fun as shithole. Yeah Right, so I would have been a zombie like an absolute zombie And I said no, thanks. It's fine. I said I I'm doing 100 times better now I don't think I need any medication. I feel great So it was nice to be able to say that and And so I'm so glad that I don't have to be on all that powerful medication Wasting my life away and killing my liver and killing my kidneys No, it's unfortunate Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things there, you know that Uh, well, you know, Mickey for Mickey Mannell thought he was always going to die young So he just drank and did Fought a poor lifestyle, you know, you know, if you're if your father's a gambling addict Doesn't mean you have to be gambling addict people don't realize that They take a lot of things for granted and then it ties that ties into falling into falling into the conventional wisdom whether it's Um, it could be my great, you know being like my grandmother and getting the doctor tabbing or take a statin Being like my father and being stuck on lexapro and all these crazy medications that ruin your life Or it could be like my great-grandfather who followed a diet high in wheat and used to beat the shit out of his wife You know, there's so you've got aggression problems. Yeah, there's there's problems correlated to modern nutrition There's problems correlated to and as we get more and more modern and go further away from our indigenous roots Things just get worse and worse and worse. Yeah, it's it's it's unfortunate Yeah, like I find it really awful when it when I see uh, oh another thing about the carnivore diet is I didn't realize that I had I never thought that I had anxiety beforehand I was completely unaware of it And then it was about a month in and I said, you know, I've stopped worrying I don't know why but I just don't worry as much and I was like, okay Well, maybe I had anxiety beforehand because I I just felt so free of Unnecessary troubles. So my brain was a lot quieter and a lot calmer and I was a lot more zen Uh, so I feel really sorry when you you see these kids that are really poorly behaved And they're there with like a slushie or something in their hand or they eat cereal cereal with uh Low-fat milk for breakfast. They have a lunchable for dinner They got a couple cool some kool-aid and some gushers thrown in there for snacks and then for uh for dinner What are they pasta? It's We're addicted to sugar since we started and then I spoke to a A Bulgarian woman a couple couple weeks ago And even with their you know, they're they're doctor and their dietary knowledge is almost It's a little old school. So they'll say things that are actually true like oh eat animal foods Do this to that but now what they're doing even in those countries is they're starting to get these kids recommending Oh, give him fruit juice when he's seven months old again people addicted early and it's You know, we know people are aware of this. This isn't something that you know A lot of things that are brought up in these these discussions I have with people You know, most of the time people know these things or they just need to be turned on to the idea We don't have to Uh, it's really just making people slightly aware of these things. Yeah They could always do it their own research themselves and look into it further Like I was completely unaware of all that. Um, I thought that carbohydrates were great for you and fat was bad Fat was the enemy. Uh, that's what I what I thought That's why so many carbs and and never had fat like to the point where I wouldn't even allow myself to have olive oil Uh, I was so strict about it And now that's what I survive off That's the disconnect the disconnect is the disconnect is crazy, you know Carbohydrates didn't exist until a few thousand years ago. Yeah, we used to only eat fat and uh, I just feel like These big hope these big corporations. I feel like they just Got lucky and and people got brainwashed. I don't even think they knew what they were doing at the time You know when the usda department of agriculture in the 1970s did all this wacko stuff They had no idea how easy it would be to brainwash I don't think they they had any idea how easy it would be to brainwash people saying fat is bad Because if you're fat, you don't look and then everyone gets fat eating carbohydrates and they don't put two and two together. It's crazy but Well veganism is starting to get really big now in Ireland when I First went vegan. There was nothing like there was no you could get soy milk in some shops That was as vegan as it was Yeah, I feel like now is the point in time where I mean I used to I used to lift weights for 10 years and when I was working out in the gym weightlifting wasn't popular from like 2007 to 2015 I worked out like two hours in the gym every day 2015 2016 is when fitness started getting popular And same with diet same with all this stuff So diet nutrition health fitness is getting more and more and more popular now and it's going to mainstream Everyone's going to the gym. Everyone wants to be on a diet. It's just uh, it's going to be interesting Say the least Yeah, like when I told everyone I went I went vegan at first No one had heard of it and they all thought that I was mad You know Now he said it in Ireland. They'd be like, oh great. You're looking after your health But at the time Everyone was worried about me and rightly so But it's it's changed now now now veganism has become a lot more mainstream and There's this poster down at the keys, which is like in the city center of Dublin That's I don't know. It's some bullshit It's a cow and a cow and it's like vegan is our dairy Rips babies from their mothers that kind of shit, you know for me If if I know if someone if someone tells me to do something The first thing I always think of is what what's in it for them and then I'm like, okay If it's fair, that's fine. But You know, there's a lot of it's not as simple as that, you know People tend to take things at face value, unfortunately But uh, Taylor, did you have any final notes to touch on? I think we'll wrap this up I think we really conveyed a great message. Uh, okay. Good stuff Uh, I I suppose what I would say is if you are a vegan watching this right now and you Are experiencing anything that I experienced Uh, maybe rethink things Start thinking about admins of animal products. Well, unfortunately for you. I think I think I think any of these vegans are already seething at their Their mouths they're like frank stop tits. I'll put it on makeup. You're lying to people about the convo That's what they're doing right now And that's such a pity because I've nothing, you know, I've nothing but sympathy and love for these guys You know, I just want to help them out and you're the same. I you know, the lesson I've learned is Listen, I made a video on vegan gains. You know, I was I didn't say anything I said, yeah, we've had negative experiences and I don't really like the guy But he shouldn't get his channel take on a you know, he does the second he gets his channel back Makes a video about me. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. As I said in that video suck my fat italian cock I will say again That was honestly when he when he put you know, when he put that in his video critica like a week ago Everyone was hysterical that I said that it was so funny And ironically he makes these videos and like people call it to my channel and they're like, oh, this guy's fucking funny So that's um, but anyway, I thank you guys for watching. I'm getting way too sidetracked today But Taylor, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you very much for having me Let's speak any other languages. Do you No, uh, do you want me to say something in irish? Yes. Yes. Uh Can you hear the fault you wrote? Uh, con as a tattoo So how are you and that's about all I know because the educational system over here is terrible But I know thank you guys so much for watching If you guys would like to support the channel subscribe like share the video all that stuff Uh, there's gonna be a bunch of stuff in the comments if you guys want to check that out Obviously, I've done videos like vegan 2018 debunking it a lot of Stuff on anti-nutrients a lot of stuff contradicting vegans If you guys want to check out the patreon, there's some exclusive videos Instagram twitter i'm on all of that stuff my website For free to check that stuff out, but uh, you guys enjoy the rest of your week. All right Bye guys