 I like to back them through the middle of that turn because the further from the cow you can get, the slower it is, the closer you are to the cow, the faster the cow's going to go. So if you can create some space with that cow, easy that cow's going to slow down on the cows we've cut now, Dave. See there she stopped better. It's okay if this cow travels a little bit, I don't mind that. I can pull them back and go through there just like that. I don't take them across, I just bring them to the middle and back them. It just softens everything up and soft and like when I knock that hip out and back them through that turn what happens is when they stop, next time when they stop and draw, they kind of draw through the middle of the turn rather than straight because not all horses can stop and draw straight. Not all have physical ability to do that so if you can make it a little easier for them they they feel comfortable and confident and they think they're they think they're doing what their mother horses are doing but they're just I'm gonna work a shell horse now just so you can see maybe the difference in the three-year-olds and showers which there really isn't. I don't work it much different. I kind of do the same same preparation. You know you walk and draw through the middle of that turn. If they want to turn a little bit fast this one way, I'm gonna turn them around even though that cow went and I'm gonna go like one thing when I drive off when that cow goes like a horse. When you pull them around there are you worried about what foot goes where you just want some softness? I just want some softness and let you know where they pick that front end up move across there. I'm not worried about what foot goes where where this or that but to me if from their withers back