 Coming up on DTNS, Amazon Ones Palm Scanning to be used for concerts in Colorado. Internal Facebook research shows how Instagram affects teens. And Nika and Terrence from Snoboes are here to talk about new Apple iPads, watches and phones. This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, September 14th, 2021 in Los Angeles. I'm John Merritt and from Studio Redwood. I'm Sarah Lane and I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. As I mentioned from Snoboes podcast, Nika Monferds here. Hey, Nika. Hello, Tom. Hello, all. And Terrence Gaines, welcome back. Hey, how's it going? How's everything going? But you guys, it's good to have you. Good to have you. I'm all I'm all brushed up. We all watched our Apple announcements ready to talk about those those Apple products. Thanks for joining us again. I love having you all coming in every time Apple has something to talk about. I guess if you could call it Apple has something to talk about. I mean, they continue. Yeah. In theory, Apple had something to talk about. Well, we'll get we'll get to that. Yeah, that's a good question. We were just talking about spoilers, like what makes a spoiler on Good Day Internet? If you want that wider conversation, become a member at patreon.com slash DTNS. That is where you can join top patrons such as Mike Aikens, Norm Physicus and Chris Allen. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. Well, South Korea is not taking it easy on Google. Earlier this month, the country passed a law that it also affects Apple, but targeted at Google that stops large companies from requiring the use of their in-app purchasing systems. Now, South Korean regulators have fined Google one hundred seventy seven million dollars for abusing its market share and bargaining power to eliminate competition. The Korea Fair Trade Commission said Google anti fragmentation agreements or AFAs with manufacturers like Samsung and LG prevented use or development of modified versions of the Android OS. The watchdog banned Google from forcing manufacturers to sign AFA contracts and ordered that it modify existing AFAs. Yesterday, Apple released security updates for every Mac, Apple Watch, iPhone and iPad. Apple credits researchers from the University of Toronto Citizen Lab for finding a zero click vulnerability and I message zero click, meaning if you got this, you got it. You didn't have to do anything to make it. It was allegedly used by the NSO group to place Pegasus spyware on an activist's phone and it has now been patched. India and Singapore both have nationwide digital payment systems that make it easy to transfer money online. The countries announced that they plan to connect India's UPI system with Singapore's Pay Now system by July of 2022. So users would only need an account on one of those systems to send money to users on either system. A press statement said, quote, when implemented, fund transfers can be made from India to Singapore using mobile phone numbers and from Singapore to India using UPI virtual payment addresses or VPAs. It's the beginning of some kind of worldwide system there. Big for remittances. Xiaomi announced the Xiaomi smart glasses concept, just concept with monochrome micro LED displays that are 2.4 millimeters by 2.02 millimeters about the size of a grain of rice that are projected towards your eyes. They look bigger. The brightness is 2 million nits because it is so small. It needs to be that bright to be seen by your eye, especially if there's daylight. Concept would be an independent Android device and not need a phone connection to work. Amazon's Kindle devices are getting a new user interface design for the first time since 2016. The update is rolling out slowly to Kindles released from 2015 and up. The changes include a search bar at the top, replacing the row of buttons and two tabs, one for home and one for your library. Settings can be accessed with a swipe down from the top of the screen. Speaking of Amazon, their palm scanning technology is finally branching out. See what I did there, palm, a different kind of palm. Yeah, right. Amazon One is technology that scans your palm to verify your identity. We've talked about this on the show before. Amazon launched it a year ago. And so far, it's been used for paying at Amazon stores and more recently, Whole Foods stores and select locations. But it can be used for more than just paying for groceries. Amazon announced it has licensed the technology for use by ticketing company AXS. The system is now available for concerts at Red Rocks Amphitheater, that's west of Denver, Colorado, with more AXS ticketed venues to follow. So small rollout, but a rollout nonetheless. You'll need to find an Amazon One kiosk if you want to sign up for it. They're available at Amazon stores, Whole Foods stores, and now outside and inside the Red Rocks Amphitheater. You can then link your Amazon One account to your AXS mobile ID account for your tickets. And then after that, you'll be able to scan your POM to enter an event that you have a ticket to. Makes it a lot easier in theory. Amazon says that it stores the secure digital signature of your POM scan, and third parties don't have access to that data only whether it's a match or not. So that's something that privacy folks would care about. Amazon also says you can cancel an Amazon One ID and it will permanently delete your POM signature. It won't be stored anywhere. So if Gas South Arena gets this, Nika, are you gonna sign up for POM scanning? No? I was gonna say POM's back. That was my first response. And I was like, oh, maybe a different POM. What about you Terrence? If this were to speed your way into an event that you wanted to go to, would you sign up? Speed, it would have to be speed. Clear, you think of the airports, you think of pre-check and clear. If it's speed, speed, even faster than Disney, I need to get in, then I would consider doing it. I don't see a major inconvenience of just whipping out my phone and scanning a QR code or whatever the case may be. But if this is going to guarantee that I will get in three times as fast as anybody else, I would consider it. Yeah, it's all in the setup, right? You gotta find one of these kiosks, which, sure, if you go to concerts a lot, you can do it at one concert so that you will be sped up the next time. But I don't go to enough concerts that I, you know, I'd probably go to a grocery store. I'd probably go to a grocery store and register it that way, because I haven't registered it to pay at an Amazon store. Yeah, the concert part of it, I think is, oh, go ahead, Nika. Not to say pre-pandemic, I went to a lot of concerts, but I mean, if you have the ticket in your Apple wallet, it's nothing for them just to scan. You already have it pulled up. They scan it. I guess it could make it a little bit faster, but I don't know how much more faster it would likely be. I don't know. I don't go to concerts at all. In fact, when I heard this story this morning, I was like, who's gonna get excited about this? Like, no one's going anywhere. But that's not really true. There are concerts happening. There are sporting events. People are going through airports. They're all sorts of ways where I see this down the road being like, oh, remember when we had to fumble through our purse or backpack or something to get our phone out to scan our digital ticket, whatever it may be. And now we don't have to do that. That's where I don't see this happening tomorrow. It's, again, a slow rollout. I don't live in Colorado, so I'm not gonna go to the Red Fox Amphitheater anytime soon. But yeah, I think in the future, this will just be the way. Yeah, and I would just challenge you on the people not going out because money and football NFL is back and those stadiums were packed. So people are going places. That's true, I know. Yeah, I went to an outdoor concert, what was it, two weeks ago maybe now? That was my first one in almost two years. And the people were there. People, especially, I don't know how it is anywhere else, but particularly here in Georgia, people are out. They're out, yeah. Dodgers games are packed here too. And the Rams, so yeah. I'm with you Terrence, if it's fast, if it is actually fast, not I have to keep it in my palm in the right place or something, like if it's actually fast and convenient, yeah, I think I might do it too. Wall Street Journal has seen internal Facebook studies that examined how Instagram affects young users, the researchers were conducted using focus groups, online surveys and self-reporting or what they call diary studies. And it doesn't mean they studied their diaries, it means they had people write down what they were doing. And then they paired that with Facebook's actual usage data from 2019 and 2020. So these were Facebook studies done for their internal research. The study, according to the Wall Street Journal, found that 14% of UK teens and 6% of US teens who reported suicidal thoughts traced the issue to Instagram in some way. So of everybody who had suicidal thoughts, that percentage said Instagram was a part of the reason they were having those thoughts. 32% of girls and 14% of boys who felt bad about their bodies reported that Instagram made them feel worse. The research found that aspects of Instagram, quote, exacerbate each other to create a perfect storm. It's not any one feature, it's that they feed off of each other. And also that quote, social comparison is worse on Instagram. So it's not like, well, social media, that's just the problem with it. TikTok focuses on performance, Snapchat focuses on fun and your face, but puts jokey filters in front of you. But Instagram focuses more on bodies and lifestyles. On the whole, most young users can manage the effects. These percentages are not majority, but those who can't are having a hard time stopping. The research from Facebook said teens told us that they don't like the amount of time they spend on the app, but feel like they have to be present. Have a hard time quitting. Instagram doesn't seem to cause problems based on this research. It just seems to make existing problems worse. Associate professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins, Angela Garda told the Wall Street Journal, it's the ones who are most vulnerable or are already developing a problem, the use of Instagram and other social media can escalate it. The research was shown to executives within Facebook, including CEO Mark Zuckerberg in five presentations over 18 months, most recently this spring. And it's difficult for the researchers to get their fellow employees at Facebook to understand the gravity of the problem their research shows. One former researcher told the Wall Street Journal, we're standing directly between people and their bonuses. So it's not just the greedy stockholders and the greedy executives, it's also the rank and file employees who are like, yeah, but my bonus is tied to how well the platform does, so, dot, dot, dot. Instagram has tried ways to reduce harm, like hiding likes, though Facebook's own internal studies did not find that that project in particular improved life for teens. Instagram launched it anyway because it would be, quote, received by press and parents as a strong positive indication that Instagram cares about its users. So they did it for the PR. Instagram is developing ways to identify people in trouble and nudge them toward more positive content. They're also testing a way to ask users if they wanna take a break. Researchers also suggested promoting fun filters over ones focused on beautification. And researchers suggested reducing the exposure to celebrity content about fashion, beauty, and relationships, and increasing the exposure to a user's close friends. Terrence, I know you're a father and I don't know if your teens that have dealt with anything like this, but what did you think about this research? It's off the rails. It was what I was gonna say. I don't know if they're gonna be able to put the genie back into the bottle because speaking about Instagram specific, the word lifestyle jumped out at me, which a lot of teens, late teens, late high school, maybe even college age, are really turning to Instagram for not just feel goods, not just being a part of it FOMO, actual being influencers and lifestyle leaders on Instagram so that feeling that need to being present, that need to getting the likes is may not originally start the feelings, the negative effects, but that need to, okay, I need to do this in order to build my brand in order to maybe even, they're seeing artists, they're seeing influencers who are making money on Instagram, you see all the reels, you see all the beauty stuff, but a lot of stuff that you also see is people showing you how to make money on Instagram by being an influencer. And I think that is where kids are the gateway drug to where kids are then feeling like they need to be there. And then that's where all the stuff from this research comes into where body positivity and FOMO and negative feelings, things of that nature, that's where it then kind of takes off from there. Yeah, cause being an influencer, that's a career path now for kids that are in middle, even as my nephew, he's nine, going on 10, he has a YouTube, he wants to be a YouTube person. They see this as traditionally as, what do you wanna be when you wanna grow up? I wanna be a doctor, I wanna be a police officer, I wanna be a fireman. Now I wanna be a YouTube star, I wanna be an influencer. So it's not just, like you said, Terrence, just one of those things where I wanna make myself feel better. It's like, this is the career, this is a career that I wanna pursue as a way of to make a living for myself. I also would love to see this supposed test of a way to ask a user if they'd like to spend less time on Instagram. Yeah, and I'm not saying that it won't happen. And listen, this research, Facebook could say, I throw it out. We're here to make money and that's what's going on here. But assuming that there's something to be done that's going to help, especially the younger set, feel better about themselves and feel like this is a positive place to be and wanna hang out there, really. Cause what's the alternative is you have a bunch of unhappy kids or you have kids who wanna hang out on Snapchat instead or TikTok or any other place. It's like, both of those situations are bad for the company. So yeah, how do you encourage your most active users who aren't happy to not use your product? Yeah, and Adam Massari, who runs Instagram for Facebook, talked to the Wall Street Journal about this. It was one of the interesting things about this story. It wasn't a Facebook didn't comment because it was a leak or Facebook denied it or disputed it. He's like, yeah, this is our research. This is what it says. This is what we're doing to try to combat this but there are no easy answers. So I mean, if you assume bad intentions then it really doesn't matter what they say. But if you, for a minute, imagine like, okay, what would they say if they wanted to make this product better? I don't know what that would be. And I don't think anybody does. I think that's the problem is nobody really knows how do you make a product that's still useful and therefore can make a company money but is also not aggravating problems like this. It's not a problem that's been solved. And not kudos, but at least they don't pretend like they have the solution. Right. Hey folks, what do you wanna hear us talk about on the show? We'd love to get your feedback and one way to let us know is our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. Apple announced new iPads, watch and phones and slipped in an announcement that iOS 15 iPadOS 15 and watchOS 8 will come out to all users, at least of qualifying phones on September 20th. So let's start with the iPad, sir. Let's do it. The entry level iPad got a spec upgrade with a faster A13 Bionic chip, a 12 megapixel camera capable of Apple's center stage tracking for videoconferencing. And base storage starts at 64 gigabytes for $329. Again, that's the base price. Order now and you, orders are open now and this will be available next week. So if you're looking at these specs and you're wondering who's this for, kinda feels like for schools, right? Cheap, capable equipment. You got the A13 Bionic, you got the 12 megapixel ultra wide camera. You've got the home button, lightning port, support for the first gen Apple pencil. And yeah, oh and also for schools, $299. So there's a discount there. So that's another incentive. And Nika, Terrence, what do you think about this? I think they were trying to level set the regular iPad with what they have going on with the air, with the mini, well I'm sure we'll talk about next, and the iPad Pro. I think it, like you said, it was an upgrade. It was to me a level set to bring the most probably used, probably most purchased iPad up to where the other iPads are. Yeah, absolutely. I definitely, we're gonna talk about it again in the iPad mini. They had to do something to really set up the mini, which is next, which you can make arguments, which one is the better device. And I think a lot of people point to the mini, even though it's smaller, it's got a lot of features. So they needed to, like Nika said, level set this. Okay, we really are going to approve that this is the entry level model, and then everything goes up from here. Let's talk about that iPad mini. They upgraded it to USB-C. It has 5G, the Touch ID moves to the top button so they can keep more screen real estate available on the front. It's got a bigger screen and basically the same frame. 500 nits brightness, wider 12 megapixel camera can do 4K video recording. Stereo landscape speakers now. So when you set it on its side, you get stereo. Second Gen Apple Pencil support and starts at $499. Same as the iPad, you can order it now available next week. So I don't know, iPad mini gets USB-C and 5G. Is that the headline or is this just a big phone that can't make calls over cellular? As I've seen some people describe it. Now I made a comment on Twitter that this device, I think would be ideal for photographers who want to lighten their load. They don't have to carry around the big iPad. It has USB-C that should connect to most of the newer cameras, rather. And it has 5G. So these photographers can do some editing and upload to Adobe Cloud. If they've got all the Adobe Creative Suite is the name of it. So this is a perfect idea gadget for them. If, like I said, they want to lighten the load. Yeah, and like you said before, I think it's really just to distinguish between the typical, I guess, base model iPad. And you now have the mini. And I don't know if it's trying to compete with the, which what's the new Samsung? They, you know, the commercials with the fold. So I think it's probably around the same size, not from the flip phone, but the fold phone. It might be around that same size. So maybe it's kind of trying to make sure they have the market share around a similar device with the other guys. So the note that Tom, you mentioned, but I also saw it from a lot of other people is this is just a huge iPhone. And it's not exactly right because, yeah, you do have that restriction of not being able to make calls. But if I were going on a work trip and I was going to be away from my house for more than a few hours, you know, it would be really hard for me to just bring my iPhone with me and get everything I wanted to do done. Could be, could be done in most cases, but it would be pretty cumbersome. And I'd miss my laptop. And yeah, the phone call thing aside, this is, I feel like we're getting to the sort of in between gadget where that could be something that gets you through the day or perhaps more if this was the only device that you had on your person. And they got 5G versions. Just give me that, give me that phone app or maybe I just use Teams or something. Yeah, even a lot of other options for phone calls. Yeah, I was going to say the new FaceTime that you can send out links for Android and Windows. There you go. There you go. That's right. Good point. All right, let's move on to the Apple Watch, which is now the Apple Watch Series 7. Gets a 20% bigger screen. The always on screen is 70% brighter. Apple made a big deal about that. Uses the bend in the edge of the glass to make the screen look wrap around. One of the rumor mills about there being flat edges did not come to fruition, not today anyway. With the bigger screen, it now has things like bigger buttons and an actual on screen keyboards. It charges 30% faster. The charging cable is USB-C. And the Series Watch 7 starts at $329, coming later this fall. Also a point of contention for some folks, especially developers of WatchOS. The Series 3 Watch is sticking around at $199, and the SE is $279. So the bigger screen, getting a full keyboard, seems like a pretty big perk. What does everyone else think? Any standouts? I was, I'm not sure how I feel because I did not follow my own rules and did not listen to the rumor mills and they sucked me in. And I was just all but convinced. And it's my fault. I completely agree. It was my fault that I was just all but convinced that it's going to have a design change. Now they did all the things where they wrap the screen, goes closer to the corners. They made it appear like, not appear, you actually get larger surface. Like Sarah said, with the keyboard being able to actually even attempt to type maybe even more feasible. Again, like I said, I was so all but convinced that this was going to be a design change to where the rumor mill turned out not to be true. And I don't know, should I be upset? Should I be let down? Or should I be like, you know what? This is right in line with what Apple normally does. So I should be happy with that. I don't know. And see, I thought I would be, my thought going into this, we talked about it on our show, is that I was going to buy a new Apple Watch. I didn't get the six because I was like, I'll wait and get the seven. And now I'm not so sure if it's worth my, worth the effort right now. It's not such a huge change from, you know, the current watch that I have. So I'm leaning towards no, but you know, it's always still an option, but it did, I did get sucked in as well by the renderings for the more square, bezel. So, and the expectation of additional sensors. And none of that really seemed to happen. So. And I was going to say something else popped out that I was surprised it's not going to be available until quote unquote later this fall. So I'm, I'm curious, it was there a supply chain issues that people actually are rumors, kind of substantiate. Yeah, yes, it's alluded to the fact that they're the watch may not be available immediately and it's not. So, you know, that's a surprise. At the very least it gives me some time to think about it, to where, whether or not I actually want to get it or not. I don't have to, I don't have the trigger trigger. Yeah, yeah, I can wait a little bit now. I may end up getting it because I've thought about it and my high came down from the rumor mill. And that supply chain may be why you don't see the new sensor. They've been putting a new sensor on it every time. And this is the first one they've missed in a while. So I could absolutely see that. It's all going to be in the series eight, don't worry. All of the square edges, all that, all going to be in the series eight. They also mentioned in addition to the watch, Apple Fitness Plus getting Pilates guided meditation and workouts for snow season later this month. They're bringing group workouts along with 15 more countries and six language subtitles later this year. Anybody, anybody excited about Apple Fitness Plus? I'm looking forward to them adding more music. I do use Apple Fitness Plus. I have a roaring machine. So I kind of use that because it's low impact, full body, all the good things, right? I'm looking for them to add more music, which is weird because you think Apple Music is tied, integrated, deeply into this. But the type of music I'm looking for when I want to sweat, Apple is kind of lacking. That just could be my personal experience. But when you think of like a Peloton, they are really promoting these collaborations with these artists. So if I were looking for something that would just blow my socks off as far as, you know, Apple Fitness Plus would be, I want to see some more variety when it comes to the music selection. Completely agree. I have the, I have a e-bike. I was happy to see that they were bringing some new cycle updates. Oh, we haven't got to that part yet, but for Apple Fitness Plus, I agree with Terrence. The music selection is, it needs to be beefed up. I have to kind of scroll through quite a bit to look at the playlist before I select a workout to make sure it's something that's actually going to keep me motivated to go through the workout. And, you know, I love the fact that on the screen you can kind of see all of your metrics. You'll have to keep looking at your watch. That's what I love the most about Apple Fitness Plus, but they definitely, I get they're adding more classes, which is great because I think they do need to expand that. But I think they need to improve their existing, you know, classes before they probably go too deep into adding more if they aren't going to provide any additional types of music to accompany the workouts. I wasn't gonna mention the cycle updates to the Apple Watch, the better detection for e-bikes and fall detection. Cause I didn't think any of us were gonna be into that. So I'm glad you brought that up, Nika. So that's something that you're looking forward to. Yeah, I actually am. Like I said, I did buy an electronic bike. I wanted a Peloton, but I was like, let me see if I can be consistent with a non $2,000 bike before that. And I toggle between Peloton app and the Apple Fitness Plus app. And it's just the music selection and the overall vibe of the trainers, the instructors are a lot better all over on Peloton than they are with the Apple Fitness Plus. Because Beyonce might be in the audience, so you gotta, you know, up your game just in case. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's move on to the iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 mini with 6.1 and 5.4 inch screens, respectively. They have the same flat edge design as the iPhone 12, but some substantive spec upgrades. So let's go through those. The notch is now 20% smaller, although some have noted it's also a little bit deeper. The screen is 23% brighter than the 12. It also does Dolby Vision, HDR10 and HLG support, has HLG support. The battery on the mini is 1.5 hours longer than the 12 mini and 2.5 hours longer on the 13 than the 12, that is pretty significant. Cameras also got some love, specifically will let in 50% more light. That makes good night mode photos a lot more capable. On video you get a new thing called cinematic mode that uses machine learning to simulate what's known as rack focus for cinematographers so it can change focus from one subject to another in the same shot. It can even tell when somebody walks into frame or turns away from the camera and then change focus automatically. Sort of like portrait mode for video, you can think of it that way. And Apple doing its chips, you're getting a six core, five nanometer, A15 bionic chip with two high performance and four efficiency cores alongside a four core GPU and a 16 core neural engine capable of 15.8 trillion operations per second. The iPhone 13 mini starts at $699 and the iPhone 13 starts at $799. There's also a new MagSafe case and new MagSafe wallet case that supports Find My for when it inevitably falls off your phone. I didn't realize this was happening to a lot of folks but apparently according to my Twitter timeline it is. Storage options for both are 128, 256 and 512 gigabytes pre-order start Friday with the phones becoming available on September 24th. Yeah, when you had to find my thing to something, it just to me that means even Apple knows these things fall off. So that's what that told me. Yeah, absolutely. I like the fact that Apple added the battery increase. I think that's going to jump out a lot of people. Definitely the camera features are gonna jump out a lot of people. We kind of talked about it before earlier in the show about Instagram and a lot of these younger kids are turning to Instagram as influencers and they are shooting, starting to shoot some high quality video with these. I don't know how some of these Instagram people are using these effects. I don't know if it's built into TikTok or Instagram or not but all that to say these extra camera features will be definitely beneficial for people who only shoot on an iPhone and are looking for that edge. Yeah, I agree. It's definitely an upgrade. I like the new chip features. Whenever they do a chip upgrade, it's always a good thing because it typically does make things faster. It has two HPCs on it. So that's great as well as Terrence mentioned. Everybody is an influencer of some sort now or everyone's a content creator of some sort now. So if you're in the market for a new device then it's definitely probably worth your time especially at the price point. Now, if you're a content creator you definitely wanna pay attention to the pro because there's some real high level stuff here. The iPhone 13 Pro and the 13 Pro Max 6.1 and 6.7 inches respectively have steel bands. So they're kind of glossy looking, little stronger. The A15 Bionic of course is in there except it has a five core GPU, not a four core GPU in the pro. The display is a Super Retina XDR and Apple finally go in 120 Hertz refresh rate with ProMotion. They've had that on the iPad. That's now on the iPhone Pro. That's the one that adapts the refresh rate between 10 and 120 Hertz to help save your battery life. So it only gives you that higher refresh rate when you need it. Camera gets most of the love here to 6x optical zoom across the three cameras, three X optical zoom on the wide. It can do macro photography as close as two centimeters and all three lenses can do night mode. There's also something called Apple Photographic Styles that lets you customize HDR with profiles before you take the photo. Like the non-pro 13s, it can do the cinematic mode but it can also let you edit the focus from cinematic mode after you shoot if you're doing it on the pro. Later this year it will support pro res video format that's used in a lot of professional editing situations. Apple says you'll be able to shoot on the phone in 4K at 30 frames per second and edit all on the phone. And end to end work pro workflow is basically how they're describing it. And they showed professional filmmakers using it exactly that way. Battery life has the same gains as the 13. One and a half hours for the pro, two and a half for the max over the previous generation. iPhone 13 pro starts at $999 and the iPhone pro max at $1,099. Both of them available in 128, 256, 512 and a terabyte storage. So you have that top tier on top of the pro same as the 13s pre-order Friday available September 24th. And in case you were wondering the iPhone 11 sticking around at 499 bucks and the SE sticking around at 399 bucks. But I mean this to me was much more captivating than the 13 and the 13 mini if you need it. Not everybody needs all of this power but this is some powerful capability here. It seems like their catering, Apple is catering more to content creators. They know that people want to lighten the load. They don't want to have to drag all of this equipment out. And if you have a terabyte of storage on a phone and the ability to shoot in 4K and edit from the phone I mean it really trims down what content creators need to put their content out. Yep, absolutely. And then you add the extra battery. You add the pro motion with the 120 Hertz refresh rate up to. I guess I wanted to ask how do you feel about the up to? I know you mentioned Tom it'll only turn it up when you need it but is it true 120 Hertz if you are not swiping fast enough or you're not playing some high level game? Or you're, you know. You could turn it off if you don't care about your battery life. You can just say give me 120 Hertz, turn off that pro motion and just like forget about it. So yeah, it's not like one of those up to specs where they're like, I don't know. Your cable internet speed might not ever get there. Like this is capable of doing it all the time. The worst, okay. So you can turn that on. All right, that's cool. And also the 128 gigs as the base model because I'm trying to decide right now because I have a 12 pro max and I got the 256 gig. And when they announced the base model having 128 I'm actually looking in my storage on my phone trying to figure out is can I go down to 128 if that's going to be the base? I guess it just depends on, yeah, how much onboard storage you need. I have a pretty hefty iCloud storage account and because I just don't need a lot of, I don't know, I'm not taking a lot of high quality video on my phone that's very long at a time. You know, they would fill it up. I'm sure there are other examples but video is always the one that gets me. I've had 256 gigs on my iPhone in several iterations for plenty of time and with my cloud storage I feel like I'm okay. And yet I look at one terabyte and I'm like, I want it. I don't need it. You needed it but now you do. But I want it, yeah. Yeah, I'm right there with you. Man, yeah. So I don't know, it doesn't sound like any of us are necessarily in the position to jump on getting any of these to replace any existing Apple devices this time around. Ask me on Thursday night or early Friday morning. All right, all right. How I feel about that. Stay tuned for the next episode of Snub OS to find out. 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