 First question is from Lake Josson. When is it more advantageous to use a supinated grip over a pronated grip for tricep exercises? It's obviously riskier when doing exercises like skull crushers, but does it hit the tries at a different angle? No, it doesn't. You know, I remember when I thought that it did something. Because it feels different. It does. So I would do press downs, and now would change the handles, right? So I'd go press down with the straight bar, the rope, and then it'd have a supinated grip, and I'd be like, oh, I feel it in different areas. And then you learn anatomy and biomechanics, and you realize that the triceps really has nothing to do with the wrists rotating. It has nothing to do with supinating or pronating the hands unlike the biceps. But then people would say things, and I would say something like back then, but I feel it differently. Well, the reason why you feel it differently is supinating or pronating your hands tends to change your elbow position a little bit. So if I supinate my hands, I'm more likely to squeeze my elbows in at my sides rather than allowing them to flare out a little bit, and elbow position makes a difference with triceps. So that's what you would basically want to pay attention to. You think it's that? Do you think it's the elbow positioning that makes it feel different? I've actually never thought of that. You're driving it in more when you supinate? I mean, that makes sense. Yeah, it's like you're squishing your triceps because your palms are up and you're doing like a reverse grip pushdown like you're saying right now. You're right. It actually feels awkward to let the elbows flare out. It feels more comfortable to keep them more turned in. That's why it feels different. Right, and when you do a tricep pushdown, one of the most common things when you're in an overhand grip or pronated, you see people flare their elbows. So maybe you're right. I'd never even thought of that. That's why it felt so different. I just thought because you're holding onto it and actually just the tense of you gripping it. Because when you're on top of it, like on a pushdown, you don't even have to grip the bar. Like you could completely relax your palms and push down. I was thinking the tension might be another factor, right? Yeah, because then you can squeeze a bit harder and more intensely sometimes when you're in a supinated grip just because now we're like squeezing versus just pushing is a different type of stimulus. But again, I think the elbow position is definitely, you know, that's gonna be the meat of it all. Well, that was one of the bet. We did a video, maybe I'll have Rachel's been going through our old library of YouTube videos and she's been posting like things that we did a long time ago. We did a video that it was all about buys and tries and it was all about elbow position. It was a long time ago that we did. So maybe she'll post that up on the main IG. But that was the biggest, you know, trying to get better about saying game changer. We say it all the time. It just fits so well. It changed the game. It just fits so well there though. You know what I'm saying? Because it was a game changer for me when this came together. Like I too would do, you know, on tricep day I would go over to the cable machine because I felt it the most on cables more than anything else. And I would do a regular tricep pushdown, a supinated pushdown, I'd do the rope and that would be like tricep day. And I got more gains on my buys and tries when I learned the importance of manipulating my elbow positioning. And then I started to look at every workout and go, oh, okay, I'm gonna do an exercise with my elbows by my side. My elbows out in front of me and then my elbows above my head. And then whether I did cables, dumbbells, all that stuff didn't matter as much as long as I manipulated the elbow positioning. Oh my God, my arms blew up after that. Absolutely, yeah. It's the things you wanna focus on exactly what Adam said, right? Elbows by your sides, elbows in front of you, like a skull crusher, elbows overhead, like an overhead tricep. All three of those stretch and work the triceps a little differently, especially if you look at the attachments. But there is a little bit of a difference in changing the wrist position. Now it's not really, it doesn't really have anything to do with the triceps. However, your recruitment patterns, you can get better at practicing a movement with different position. Now I can't think off the top of my head what the value would be at getting good at a supinated grip press down. But let's just say you were in some kind of weird sport that required you to grip something in a supinated grip and use your tricep. In that particular case, then it would make sense. So when it comes to sports or movement or patterns, then you're not necessarily looking at your body like a bodybuilder would, right? This is a bodybuilder question. Does it hit the triceps differently? But if you're talking about a movement, as a movement, if you're playing, if you're doing a sport and even though the hand position might not affect the targeted muscle, it may be a good idea to train with that hand position because that's the one you're using so much. That's Michael Hearn makes the case for this. He does a lot of like weird, odd, like angled exercises that are very similar, like as far as getting the gains on your tricep or your bicep, like him doing this exercise versus this other one that he would show, it's like, I'm looking at that going like, neither one of those are gonna make that but give a difference. But the case that he makes is that it's, I wanna be strong in all positions. So, and I can get behind that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like, I mean, in real life, you're rarely ever in the perfect skull crusher position, the perfect overhead, you know what I'm saying? So having your elbows flared, laying in a weird position with your out in a different way. I feel too with those, you know, those added grip. Fat grip. Fat grip, thank you. Yeah, it's just the same. It's, you know, just getting strong with a different grip is valuable, but it's not like- Right, that's not everything to go. The game changer, the panty dropper, whatever you wanna call it, right? I don't know if we're gonna change that. Do we say that? I don't know if I can say that. Do we do panty dropper instead? I tell you what, when I changed elbow position, it was a panty dropper. Right, it kind of works. Hey, I'm with you over here. That doesn't work, I don't think. Wow, man.