 Tired, bro We are here hella black. We in this motherfucking shit Trying so hard to Be a podcast personality right now. I'm gonna record this shit. I don't even care to be Hella black being this motherfucking We're actually trying to Secure an alcoholic beverage right now. This is raw uncut footage We might cut this out. We might not it's probably gonna be for the Patriots. You feel me? I'm trying to be like so I was thinking of all the podcasts. I'll be watching this shit Yeah, I'll be seeing like people really stepping to podcast personality mode and before I was gonna get on here And I was gonna complain about how tired I was Fucking I'm gonna adopt. We're not much in the drinking house This podcast persona This Malibu, I've seen some Remy on the top of something What shit is that? I'm not drinking on Malibu. I'm gonna have to fight through this fuck it. What is it? What is it? Malibu is a chaser my nigga. It's like a quarter or some shit, right? It's a chaser. That's what you put the alcohol in. I mean, you know, we got the liquor store We got the liquor store on there. It's good. We already started this shit. We just gonna power it Oh, she are over. Yeah, we're just gonna power it through. Hello. This live We just gonna power it through it Man, like I was saying I was gonna get on here and I was gonna fucking What would Joe Budden do what would the Joe Budden podcast do What would all the other podcast personalities do know them niggas just make it seem like this podcast shit It's just like you just got to do it. So fuck it. I ain't gonna complain. I'm gonna step into my podcast personality right now Hello, black. This is the first episode since the playboy feature. Yeah See we got a step into we officially we officially podcast We got a we have a duty to all the other podcast is our duty to fight for our podcast, you know, that's what That's what these niggas be saying, huh? We lose some podcasters So what's your podcast personality now that you've been in playboy and shit? I don't know, bro I guess I can't be my depressing stuff on here. I'm not always depressed, but I'll keep a lit You know, tell them motherfucker when I'm tired or drained Yeah, I don't know I feel the same. I feel we both felt the same About the recording it didn't overthink record. I wonder if like if anyone else that has a podcast goes through these emotions Is it a burden to record if it is maybe we shouldn't be doing it? I don't I don't know also feel like I just wonder if any other Like podcasters feel drained when they're recording or do they feel well, maybe if podcasting is your only If that's your only thing you're doing or like You know, that's the only thing you're doing in the day is doing a podcast like bro We worked a full day. I know but then I've been having talked about that We get on here. We talk about all the things that we do. I know my fuck is like nigga. Oh, well, you signed up That's what I that's what I think to myself sometimes It's like we always get on here and talk about all the shit We had to do before we came here. It was like well nigga, nobody forced you to do this nobody asking us either Listen to hear his complaint. So yeah, so I'm trying to I'm trying to get out of all that I often wonder if there's anyone else that does podcasting Maybe someone that doesn't for a living like I don't really know that many podcasts, but I'll I wonder if podcasters feel Drained before and after recording not every not all the time though. There are some episodes where I feel Where I feel refreshed afterwards, but yeah, I feel refreshed after like in the editing process No, I'm like, all right. Yeah, we did this shit. You feel me? I feel more but it's I feel similar sometimes like after teaching like I just you can't ask me a question after I teach Because my brain is just like I just talk for two hours, you know So sometimes I feel like that after podcasting, but then a lot of times this shit is also like Sometimes I don't feel like doing it, but then after I do it. I'm happy I did it because I feel better I think it's all I know what also plays a role in it is us waiting to like the last minute to do And when I start like waiting to super lay at night, you know, so either like right now it's 8 30 I woke up at 6 30 this morning. I was at the office at 7 30 touches 7 45 Got out of that motherfucker at 5 o'clock. Yeah So a nigga has definitely lived a full life today Excuse me and then come in here and just try to have You know meaningful A Thoughtful valuable conversations that should Takes a lot. I don't I don't I wonder if other people like if it takes a lot of images like to think and craft fresh and meaningful Content for me it does sometimes But what if we recorded it like 9 a.m? But then my ass, you know me bro, or what's the ideal time for you to record for me? I don't know Probably If I didn't have work like my mind works best at like 9 o'clock at night. I'm my most I'm my most creative self and I'm like 9 to 9 a.m. To MP and that's what I'm like That's when when I was doing journalism full-time. That's what I like to write Yeah, even at work when I'm doing something that requires me to be be creative in a sense I like to do it as soon as I get to the office I start every morning. I'll start every morning off with a journaling session. Yeah, that's what I'm most creative I just like to get you that one to the paper on to the document whatever it is. I feel I'm most creative during those times So right now we're recording at probably when I feel the least creative 8 30 at night. Yeah, I started like 9 30 at night. It's not like that's my game Like 9 30 to like 2 30 in the morning isn't almost creative Well, I have like the best ideas or I'm like the most just like alright I need to get you done up. Let's do it. Can you send me the outline for this? Was was like 5 30 probably like that. I look at this shit. I'm like, there's no way I'm reading this right there's no way And there were a link there were there were links to like two articles I'm not I can't comprehend what's being said right now. I've read so much today. I talked so much today What what is this nigga sending me goddamn niggas send me like four or five paragraphs of shit And if that would have been not a fucking the morning I would have read all of it and soaked it all up But is this right now? I Just don't have it in me my hair What I was thinking about productivity and creativity today, and I was wondering like how how often do people really? Even when I'm in the studio, bro there is Like under the influence of nothing. I wonder how easy this people to create I feel like if we were in we sober, right? So if I'm not under the influence of any if anything it's hard for me to just keep crafting fresh ideas I feel so back to the studio comparison even when I'm around artists in a in the studio They're working. They're having 12 hour sessions, but a lot of it is spent, you know Smoking drinking Going back and forth in it out of the booth when I sit down on my in front of my computer for hella hours often, you know Get a little frustrated and upset that I can't keep just pumping out shit Yeah, like damn today. I was working on something article. That's about to be published in this education Website or some shit. Well, so where I'm see I can't even think of the fucking word dry this by this education publication Yeah, it's gonna be published later this week and I got some notes back from the editor And I was having hella trouble writing because it was two o'clock in afternoon I don't have anything craft any messages right now. Yeah, so I was just wondering if that was something that I experienced Or do you have like times? Yeah, we just kind of talk about it But are you able to just keep pumping out fresh shit like throughout the day? Like can you just sit down and just type type type go on the meetings all day. Yeah, I mean I don't think it's like it's that capitalism Capitalism can't eight hours of just students like I can't sit down for a long Like I'll be in the office. I'll be on my desk for like 30 minutes and I gotta get up Like I can't it's very hard for me to sit for two hours. I got a coworker money good I can't do shit like that. I really think she works the entire time if she's not in the meeting She's on a phone call. She's not on the phone call. Yeah, she's on her computer I've just never seen someone be so productive and yet so efficient. So I know it's possible. I know she'll do Adderall I know she's she for sure not doing it or I know she's not. I don't know what she's this coffee do that to you Some people fuck I need whatever she's on I want to ask her how to fucking she was also like a fucking rocket science or some rocket scientists or some shit She's elsewhere Let me know what y'all do with y'all creativity All right y'all are able to be so productive because I'm trying I want to be productive as shit, but you are productive though Yeah, that's productive as I want to be yeah, I feel like that's I Feel you we we both have high high standards for ourselves of what we can do Yeah, I think that's part of it because I feel like In my opinion you're the most productive people I know in terms of like all the different things you handle Yeah, then to be able to handle it all Not a lot of people could do what you do. Yeah in my opinion. I just be feeling Yeah, I just sometimes I wish but it's only natural, you know I think it's also like that inner critic of us. Yeah, that comes in and being a former athlete I feel like part of that at least for myself. I'm always trained to like be held critical of yourself You know, I'm like, all right. I could have done this better. I could have done this better But like Actually, it's okay to like I did what I had to do today That's fine. I don't know how to approach life that way When projects or problems or situations are presented are presented to me I think about how to solve that issue right then and there and that's hella detrimental. That's hella I know that's not healthy. Um I feel that's just the way it is for me. Like something's presented to me. I'm like, okay, take it Take I was we were just talking about the um, fundraiser that I'm planning right take the fundraiser That's I'm trying to knock everything out in one day. I'm trying to think about all the steps of one day It's like bro, that's not possible. I think it's like Stoic yourself out. That's just how my brain works. I fucking hate it. I think it's one of my biggest flaws I'm similar. Yeah It's like if a problem comes up I'm like, I just gotta fix it I feel because it gives me anxiety too. So I think part of it's my anxiety It's like, all right, if a problem happens or something comes up I just want to deal with it right there. So I don't overthink it I know I have a tendency to overthink things. I'm like, all right Nah, you just I definitely have an overactive mind. I'm always overthinking some shit always I think a lot of creative people have that though too, you know, we're both pretty creative in Different ways, you know, but I haven't got to talk to that many people about their creative process even As someone that works in music, I don't really get to talk to people I've witnessed it sometimes, but I haven't really Talked to people that much about it in the studio is like a whole different I don't know. It's a it's a different vibe. It's a different I feel like that's just I also think it's a arena that like Breeds creativity or also just like harnesses it and yeah, it's a lot of different vibes Yeah, office space is not a space that Yeah, I don't know if this is the most creative space in here We're gonna record anything Fuck I got snakes behind me and shit We hear though regardless how you like what episode is this 26 26 Is it? Yeah, bro. You sure because the last one was 25 with rise. Yeah episode 26, maybe You're fucking here. I'm excited about that Yeah, but this is actually a great place to record It's more or anything around the sleeper. I don't give a fuck I wonder what the pot like what do podcasters do to get creative? You know, like What are these podcasts do For their space? Do you think they like how would they go out their space and they're like, I don't know I mean, I feel like you when we were recording that youth radio like an actual studio. Yeah, I feel like I was Used to put me in his own kind of you know Like you in a studio, right? Yeah Like I'm drawing the blank now. I'm pretty sure it's 26. No, we are on episode 26 I just saw for show episode 26. We hear Hebbleback podcast all the way tapped in. Thank you for listening to our rant We're gonna drop that whole rant on y'all because I think we should just put this Total raw It's like even the intro part should go on youtube. I think that would be late They don't like go good as a fuck at this point. We should get back to doing it for us For real So like it's on soundcloud I need people to like subscribe on youtube to bear We got some subscribers, but we ain't got enough. I'm like, we don't really promote the youtube channel though Like it's not like we post them like, oh go follow us on youtube. I've never promoted. Uh, I've never posted Promoted I may be did it for like a promote and posted it I've never posted on any of my social media shit like go follow on the black or go subscribe to our youtube channel I think we need to start doing that shit Do we really? That just seems like another job That just seems like another job that I do not want to do Bro, I just want to keep posting this raw content is what in the go-go It is what it is. Maybe we can get somebody to do it for us. Give us a white slave a white a white intern It's my white slave, bro Friday reference for those that don't know But yeah, like this shit on soundcloud Subscribe on itools. Subscribe on youtube. You feel me? Open that itunes right now and give us a five star rating if it ain't five stars. I don't want it. Thank you We need that five star rating on itools for sure I appreciate everybody who's supporting hella black podcast, you know Who's been supporting us for a minute now? You feel me? I definitely do. I'm grateful. Yeah Hella grateful and I'm hopefully you learning something from me If not, I'm sorry. I'm wasting your goddamn time. But at least we ain't wasting your money Unless you're a patron Good segue subscribe to us on patreon.com slash hella black pot The link is probably in the bio. If not search patreon hella black podcast that shit will show up Give us some of that coin, especially that white coin. We really love reparations The white dollar stress is further than any dollar any dollar But have you heard about the black dollar? Have you heard about the Harriet Tubman's they got coming up the blue face to keep the black dollar in the black community If only these niggas just kept the dollars in the community Do you know how long it takes for a black dollar to leave the black community? The black dollar circulates around the world three times slower than the white dollar Just means if you keep the black dollar in the black community It will grow three times faster than the white dollar. You have three times the profit Three times the people three times the job three times the houses Bank black go get you a rush card Tap in tap in with that rush card. I heard they got you Shit is just so natural. That's how you know we used to really be them, bro Because it just comes to fucking natural Fuck man, so speaking of like My past asheness Is something that like kind of got brought back into my mind because the brother nature niggas Shit to happen with him. I've seen you had some pretty spicy takes on bro. What was the spicy? I don't we could we could just we could get into it But for me what what made me think of what it made me think about a conversation that I have of myself and others um very often but It's I don't know for some reason people think Growth means not being held accountable For past actions or words or whatever. So it's like I've definitely I don't it may be hard to even it's not hard, but I would try not to I try to be cautious of how I say this because I've said it to you, but it's like I feel like You know where I'm coming from, but I also understand that intent Doesn't it also understand the importance of intent versus impact. But for me, it's like I've said Some very homophobic definitely some transphobic Some massaging the war type shit, you know, just being a trash ass cishit Niggas, you know like not Definitely not since I've been like really learning and I'm learning right But I've definitely said some things in the past as a result of just the patriarchy and white supremacy, right? um but If I was if people wanted to hold me accountable for that that's just what it is I can't use the The lazy excuse of oh, I didn't know any better. It's like yo, I didn't know any better But I don't expect you to put up with my shit while I'm learning like Especially if you're saying things that resulted and like, you know, we saw say this all the times like words mean things, right? like Arth the way the way we think the things that we say for most for the most part lead to actions and If you know, I've had I've said some violent things Whether it was in joking whatever it is, bro I don't get to determine how people respond to it, especially those that were affected by it. So I just feel like as we continue to Learn your unlearning as more of this shit surfaces because most of these niggas just trash like Ourselves included, you know, I think we're at least compostable Like at least I am what I used to be, you know, you can post it It goes back to the earth or whatever and it does something beneficial. I don't think we ain't landfill We still trash if someone brings like say if I have a classmate that I said some homophobic shit to in high school I don't think I was that foul I always had like some type of I've always you know, I think I was pretty decent, but I've definitely like said like Some foul shit, right? Um, if somebody like held me accountable for it and told me, you know, or whatever the situation is I can't be like Excuse my actions. I didn't know any better I can say y'all I didn't know any better But if y'all don't want to support or fuck with me while I'm learning I respect that like that's not your Why is it that motherfuckers have to give people a pass? Why they Why are they learning? We don't give a white folks a pass. I'm not giving the white person a pass I think people give somebody a pass if they like what they're doing Like oh, if you're talented like oh, I really like this shit brings me something, you know what I'm saying Like we make a joy from it and we'll make people make excuses for people they like You know And people just rush. I don't know this is why I have to see how fast people will like rush to defend somebody Saying shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Then it's the whole fucking y'all don't give people room to grow What does letting them grow have to do with not holding them accountable? It's not the like not being held accountable and growing or not synonymous my nigga And I don't think everybody was fucking just tweeting Nazi shit out when it was 12 Like what the fuck like I don't know for sure. I was not Awesome fucking a hell of a shit. I'm probably saying some weird shit, but not some shit like that. Yeah, so But yeah, I think it's interesting how fast How fast black people will cancel other black people, but then just rush to Cape for white folks Always cancel the white niggas didn't cancel or Kelly. That's true niggas still haven't cancelled our Kelly So we can't say we cancel all black folks niggas still talking about talking about bill cosby was about to buy cds Yeah niggas. Yeah, so we don't always cancel black folks Yeah, that's just from what I've seen I've seen us make a lot of excuses for black folks I just For I see I see a lot on my not on my timeline because I'm very cautious about who I who I follow a lot of motherfuckers on me But like actually like in the real world right like being around like black folks and shit and hearing them talk You can't always protect yourself from that shit or any any human beings already any group of people I say black people. That's why I hang around so like hearing them speak and hearing them make excuses like all like My fuckers gotta learn they were only boys or whatever the situation may be. It's like fam Come on. That's not an excuse, bro. You can't use that You can't use that as an excuse and also my fuckers like teenagers and young adults It's like why can't I just be like, yeah, dude was saying some stupid You know or some wild shit, but I'm not trying to say it stupid, you know Saying some wild shit He was saying some racist, you know, like you can start with that. You don't got a rest to defend them at first and You know, yeah, and it's like holding someone accountable does not mean you're you don't Excuse me I feel like People are afraid to hold people accountable because it means, you know You don't really fuck with them anymore But it's like bro, you can still I feel like holding holding someone accountable is the deepest like one of the It's a it's a it's a lot of love. Yeah Because you know, it's one of the most real things you could do as opposed to letting them do some Shit that's detrimental to them and others Yeah People don't see shit like that. That's a lot of like people just One of the fan people, you know, like you said, like there's a lot of like yes man and shit, you know, we also hate women in Game queer and trans folks. So that's There's that that's a society. So yeah when I say we I mean society, right I think people get that by now. This is episode You never know sometimes people take some of our words and try to twist it like oh, we like people don't Did you hear what hella black podcast is by now, you know, where we rockin, you know where we're coming from Yeah, but it's just I just want people to understand that You can hold people accountable while giving them room to grow Facts and also understanding that brez is sys head male. Like I think it's gonna be okay If anything you don't get a bigger platform like people ain't tripping off that People ain't gonna cancel not gonna watch the show anymore. You know, yeah and If brez like genuine in his growth because also I think about it from the perspective I will be sick if People told me I couldn't do like people's breakfast anymore Because I was hella homophobic when I was in high school Like even though my homophobia didn't look like beating up gay or queer people It definitely looked like using gay slurs, you know what I'm saying? Like it definitely looked like that and I just don't want to make excuses. It's no no way around it But I was definitely a product of my very patriarchal and sys head environment, you know, I'm saying But I'll be hella mad if they told me I couldn't I'm not I'm not um I can't do this anymore because of some shit that I did or it's not even did some shit that I say When I was 16, I would be a little frustrated, but I just have to accept it or I can still do it I just don't have to listen to it for me It's just like I do fly people should be given the opportunity to grow But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to count. Right. I think accountability is the first step to grow. Yeah, you know And I think people are just rushing to I don't know defend when they should be like, okay Brett says some problematic shit. Is he gonna own up to it or not? Is bro gonna grow from it or not, you know, what does so I seen he did an apology on Twitter where I felt I don't know I can look it up Honestly from what I remember I think bro did Hold himself accountable. So What is so what does holding yourself accountable look like to you? I think it first thing is just admitting admitting you did wrong and then Asking or like making those steps to move forward, you know Like what do I need to read to learn, you know, or what do I need to do to move forward in a better way? You know Yeah, I think it looks we can't I don't think you can really just generalize it You know because accountability looks different in different situations. I mean so for you if Somebody was like, yo when I was 13 Blake don't Craig Blake don't crack fucking like don't my fault Blake don't crack says use the homophobic story towards me What would it look like you holding yourself accountable? I think the first thing I'll do I'd apologize That'd be the first thing apologize for what I did and Try to explain that I've grown over the years and I'm not to justify what I said Those are what that's what I did there, but this is me now. I'm a different person You know, and I could hope I hope that you could forgive me for what I said. Fuck you. That's what they're gonna be saying in your app You know, I think that's all you could really do is apologize genuinely and then a part of apologizing is also Making sure it don't happen again and taking actions to educate yourself You know and not just being so stuck in your ways like nah, I didn't do this. No, I didn't do that That's like that's why the council me culture is so dangerous though because everybody was trash at one point Literally Literally it especially man I think a lot of people think that I feel like people aren't people learn something And then the next day they like criticize the people for knowing it and that's why you know, and I think that's the issue And that's why I often think it's important that when we're holding people accountable I think We do a good job of saying like yo, I also did this so I'm not excluding myself I think a lot of the times folks like to exclude themselves from the critiques that they're that they're you know that they're given like nigga You're not excluding. Yeah, and I remember like it was my junior year in college and My homie my homegirl. She was just saying day And I was like who like what is day? I didn't know what pronouns were at that point, right? They were talking about their partner And I was like what is they like what does they mean you feel me like because I just didn't understand it Then they educated educated me on it and I'm all right for show I'm yeah, I'm gonna just ask people pro their pronouns. Yeah, you know And I think it's like I'm just I don't know why but up that situation But that's the first thing that came to my mind is like, oh, I didn't know But then I knew and I was like all right once you know then you have responsibility to Keep learning and to do better. You know You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it does I have a question as to where like the whole council meeting came from because there are some of the fuckers who we should not support Because there are some people who know or who won't even who won't hold themselves accountable Or they will hold themselves accountable and still do the same things, right? So that's when you stop just stop supporting someone, right? But I think the whole council me culture is just how the reactionary From the from the get-go. It's like, oh, this nigga did this when he that does seem a little nuts Like of course, I'm not I'm not down with the hell he was shit like that I don't know where this nigga was raised. He could have been around a whole bunch of white people And this nigga brown too, like what the fuck is like it's a he put the fucking nazis in there But there also was that like copy and paste that shit What you think about there was that one time period if you think about What our future came on to the scene And the niggas like was just spewing like Bro, and I definitely fell into that impression of what I shit and I was niggas 16 17 I was definitely older than him. I'm assuming I'm older than bro, but like Think about that time period niggas like those niggas was saying the most Wild shit, you know what I'm saying? So I'm sure there's a bunch of black kids in that era Who fucking were saying homophobic and like they were talking about rape and shit trigger when it's a content morning Hey, they were hella foul brush, you know what I'm saying? Yeah Shit, I mean when I was in high school the way people talked was hella foul You know and the football players you already know how that go Yeah, thanks So shit even in college. I didn't college. I was like, but that's what I I started out like why y'all motherfucking saying this I feel like I I feel like I just stopped using Like homophobic And transphobic slurs Probably within the last few years. That's not that That's hella recent. You know what I'm saying? Like there's definitely some shit that I said I was an adult That was just trash as fuck. Yeah, maybe I never said it directly to somebody, but I've definitely said it around people Yeah, I'm saying like with my friends for sure. I just stopped using the b-word Like niggas in the last year and I still sometimes use it when talking about white women and I'm trying to see I don't I'm trying to I just I realized that our first thing to do that's like a disrespect thing to white women I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, I knew what the tournament and I did use it as a term of disrespect to white women Especially the white women in like power. Yeah, like you think about like Hillary Clinton Then I realized there was no room for any misogyny. Yeah, and I'm just trying to eradicate it for my That's what uh, yeah Khadija talking to Khadija definitely because I remember I stopped saying it when when speaking about Like I haven't used it for black women in a while a fairly long time, but I was still using it for um Yeah for white women mostly Yeah, I feel trash even saying that out loud niggas are trash. Damn. Should I edit that out? I don't want to be trash But then it's like I also what I think it's good to be transparent for people This is what we said, but it's about I feel like this is a Being public about it and speaking about it. It's also for my accountability too We ain't acting like we're better than people. We're saying, okay, we've done these things. We said these things Yeah, you know, there's room to grow. You feel me and we're examples of You said it I know but I just because The whole playing around it, but it was yeah, I feel like the whole playing around it was like Well, I was trying to say that I just got better like not using hella like harmful and disrespectful language And then I'm like, yo, but I still do be using the beware when I'm talking about white women because Why I used to be using the beware when I talked about white women because it was like, you know Intentionally trying to be disrespectful to white women because I feel some type of way about them. Um But yeah, Khadija told me that there is room for no misogyny. So I don't do that to white women anymore That's growth Hopefully it'll lose your job words words means thing words mean things y'all Let's try to be better with the language that we use. We do not try to be we have to be better with the language that we use Um, but yeah, back to the counseling culture thing. That's what it was for me. It was just like fuck I I'd be feeling I think we should hold people accountable But I also don't think we should just be counseling people especially for some shit that they did as kids And that they're actively trying to be better That's what I think because then I'm like getting there moves a bunch of us from the movement Probably myself included That just removes a bunch of us from the work. Yeah Yeah, and then people try Yeah, no, I feel it You got to be accountable and then move on I feel like in productive ways and showing that you're doing productive things You feel me facts So, but I've also never seen brother nature tweet about like You know supporting trans rights or gay rights But you know the bars You know the bars the floor when you're trying to be a leader of the movement the bars the floors as long as you you know As long as you uh, what would you say or something like the standards? Don't you speak in some like black first shit? Good. I don't yeah, honestly in this era right now All you have to have is be eliminated your bio But he got he got he got famous for like animals like I don't know if he does like animal rights But he got famous for like, you know being a dark-skinned person. That's like in nature. Like that's holy right now He likes him. He also. I mean a brown person. I mean like not white That's what I'm big. Um, but I feel like He also like showed a different side of you know a brown person Then they see where when it's yeah, you know, like it was it was lit to see that Yeah, to see a nigga. That's like in nature. That's not a white person But yeah, I think I think cancel culture is a part of capitalism too. It's like What do we just canceling people and then like disposable? You know, I feel like that's what capitalism and like neoliberal. I'm counting down today to cancel It's like you just throw people out type shit You know and then people aren't redeemable or people can't grow Not to say everybody can redeem themselves from certain things because I think there's certain things that You gotta suffer the kind, you know, right probably one of those things just like I'm a nigga. That's I'm just gonna stay away from that for right now. I'm on the right hand space to talk about that Yeah, I've already said that I called the white woman a bitch in the last few months some school Straight away from that topic um Yeah, there are some things that you kind of can't come back from and again It's about, you know Actively trying to do better while accepting that, you know, a nigga made a mistake Yeah, because I feel like both of us our politics we've grown a lot Hella in the past three four years, bro For sure. I think I've done the vote not I think I know I've done the book of my work in the last three years Especially since meeting people like you, Khadija and yeah ab I've definitely got a lot better Who else has helped me shape some politics? A bunch of people on twitter Like the folks we've interviewed So it's all about growing everybody You know, I think sometimes a lot of people are very privileged to to have access to knowledge as well To these things, right? It's like Especially like I feel like amongst college students. That's why I feel like cancel college culture is the biggest Like you said one theory wrong or you know, it's like, oh So, okay, nigga, you just learned that theory yesterday, fam Like come on Like you just learned the word intersectionality yesterday And now you're criticizing other people for not knowing it. Yeah, you go back home for Thanksgiving Like dad, you didn't know what the fuck intersectionality means. What the fuck? It's like no educate your dad or educate your mom, you know educate your grandparents around it Facts, you know, because I guarantee you they know what the theory is. They just never heard the word Because they know about shit. You feel me? So So should we talk about the past breakfast program? People's Breakfast Oakland? Yeah, we can for sure just to update people on a lot of people, you know Listen to this to hear what's going on in terms of the organizing work we're doing Yeah People's Breakfast Oakland. I was like, was that two weeks ago? Or last weekend? It was last weekend? No, last weekend just last weekend was Monday. Yeah, so the weekend before that It was like eight days ago or something like that. Yeah I don't know. I have mixed emotions about it because you know pulling up and seeing all the people already in line Was like, oh, we about to help a lot of people today, but also we about to help a lot of people today Like that's some bullshit. Yeah Like this shouldn't be the conditions that people live in like this was definitely the first program Where like as soon as we had tables set up people were waiting in line You know, and like we didn't even have the food out and I'm closed out hygiene packs out Like people were waiting in line. There was probably a line for like an hour and a half Of people like getting food and stuff like and I've never seen it like that. Yeah, I don't know, you know Can you remember any time where it's been like that? That shit don't be feeling good either. I don't know how people I feel like once you're able to step out of like the savior complex shit And you start looking at the work that's really doing this like yo, this is sick me I don't fuck with it in the fact that it wasn't a good thing that we had a line I felt like even though it felt like all right. We're we're helping all these people It's like it's like it should just get worse. Yeah, and we watching it happen in real time Right like right there. It should is getting worse because we've been at that spot for a minute. You feel me? Yeah So that's that's what that's really made it suck for me. It's you know where we we're We're starting to be more and more of a necessity for the community and I don't fuck with that because it puts It puts a hella on It puts a burden on this bro, and I already talked about you know how I feel about that. I definitely Hey, I don't know I hella want to be there for the community, but then it's like breast motherfuckers who job this is to be doing this shit Like this is we we spam hell Tax pay dollars on my nigga like millions and millions and millions of dollars coming through the city of Auckland The port of Auckland is the biggest port The fuck silicon valley twitter all that motherfuckers all over and you feel me? The bay it's like my name. We are all billions of dollars twice a month, bro So what about the other I mean also though? I have been seeing a lot of people outside. I fuck with that I've been seeing a bunch of other people. I don't know what they Mode it. I don't know. I've been seeing people out there feeding people I fuck with that Yeah, and I appreciate it because I'm like it takes a big burden off of I'll be feeling guilty like when I know like damn. I'm not gonna be back out here for the 14 days I'll be feeling terrible about that shit It's definitely like the worst parts of sometimes doing the breakfast program. It's like fuck There's no one that it's needed tomorrow. And then you can't do it tomorrow Not even tomorrow. We should have needed it's gonna be here in a couple hours as far as the food can sound like Yeah, we close people and you know, we don't just give away scraps like you know, we give away Good meal good meals and also like very valuable like, you know shit that we That I was still aware but I just know somebody needs more than me. So I know like the clothing. That's a little different That could last but the food that shit is good. They're gonna need food Within the next few hours, right? Like we and then it's Uh, I'm not really having like the necessary funding to Fully run up to run a fully functioning breakfast program Because I talked to you about I'm like the pandas is doing this shit every day. Yeah Yeah, you're right And I should be frustrated, bro But it's just as wild to see I mean it's election year, right? So it's now a lot of people are getting Evicted, right? So all these tough sheds Which a lot of people who live in them call them concentration camps. Those are being seen as the solution To houselessness in Oakland, you know, so I think that's the reason why There was so much more people is because a lot of people are gonna push that way because camps and camps are getting evicted You know, like that north gate sycamore like all that is gone now You know all that that whole camp has been destroyed by levy shafts administration So now it's like it's getting more and more concentrated, you know, so that's why I like usually we're able to go To two different locations and we were only we only had enough food in that one location We fed probably 200 people on that one block Yeah, minimum. So think about the and they ran out of food and we couldn't go Feed the people that you know the other encampments that she was Yeah So bro ants and I like then it's also It's also frustrating to see okay. This is the impact that 15 of us can have With a couple hundred dollars Niggas thousands of people working in politics Who got way more time and resources than we have like we know that this can be fixed We know it We know that the homeless crisis the homelessness crisis in the bay area and all over can be fixed can be fixed It can be eradicated very easily Niggas just don't want to do it like we we've shown that us in all us and all the organizers before us Before us have shown That this can be fixed that people can Get food clothing and housing right who've shown it But it's just the government is making a very conscious and strategic decision to not do it Yeah, I mean essentially the actions of liby shaft show That they want a different oakland They want to kick out all the people You know, I'm saying we've had roots here for years And now we're on the streets. They don't want to provide them housing They want to provide them tough sheds and then ship them out on bus buses Literally people are being evicted from these tough sheds So it's like you're saying, oh no, this is a solution to homelessness. Nah, the solution is more housing Is actually building housing like how do you have two million dollars that you don't spend? City of Oakland owns hella properties, but would be shaft sold hella for the properties Those properties could easily be made into you feel me housing niggas open in coffee shops pizza shops How many fucking pizza shops do we need bro? And how much like oh this have a little fucking like open plots in Oakland too like a for of land like The city could show by some of that and build housing for the homeless like I really I don't know I feel like the house there should be housing, you know But medical services within it social workers within it job training programs within it, you know food the things that these people really need to thrive Yeah, I just survived the things like drug rehabilitation mental health services like that should as possible It's like you tweeted something like how much money does the city of San Francisco spend on homeless? Yeah, and that she was wild When they were talking about how when they were addressing how much they were spending on homeless services But a lot of it was going to fucking the police and terrorizing So it's just like they spend millions and millions of dollars to keep the problem going right? And it's like shit. That's why this should this system, bro Ain't no saving it Right all the all this is happening by design. It's been happening And then you have you know twitter like being against the proposition that's gonna like Help rent control and shit like that help stop evictions and shit you feel me so it's These big corporations are the reason why it's happening than these big politicians. Libby chef is enforcing like, you know What the corporations want? You know all for tech essentially And do you have this house was crisis Naked houselessness has always been a crisis It's said in the latest fiscal year san francisco spent roughly three hundred and eighty million on services related to homelessness What? So a lot of it I think goes to SROs. I was thinking on this panel and they were talking about it some SROs a single residency occupancy. I think like single night type shit um So a lot of that money goes to paying those SROs apparently So like there's not that much money for direct services and then a lot of it goes to like They'll say homeless action teams, but that's really just like cops Like the sfpd apparently has a whole like homeless division And their police department to evict people right? That's wild So it's like you don't see as many camps because people are just getting like evicted evicted evicted, you know, just like that You feel me? So it's like yes, like it's not going to it's not going to um Like the money isn't going towards eradicating the problem of homelessness It's either of like Moving them somewhere else Housing them for one day. It's not going to getting these people from out of homelessness into some stable housing That's where the money should be going and there's not a lot of like sROs type housing like so like This lady was talking about like with sROs. It's like once you're in them like you're in them essentially how she was explaining it So it's like not a lot of them become open Because you're in them until you know, you know, you pass away or something like that, right? So it's like More housing needs to be built. You know, it's just it's simple It really is simple like they make it try to seem like oh, we'll have all these panel discussions when we're bringing all the experts I know niggas need houses and that's that like there's more abandoned food and that's that niggas need medical care niggas need services It's really not like I'd be so confused when you got a wing What we got like you said we gotta have all these fucking talks all these articles being written Where's the action bro? Where's the action? That's where motherfuckers be losing me yet. Yeah at the end of the day there There are people without houses. How do you solve that? There are empty spaces. People don't have food. How do you solve it? You give people food It's that fucking people don't have medical care. How do you solve it? Give people money like People try to make this just so complex and that's that's what capitalism does essentially Like that's why socialism is important because it's guaranteed human rights food education housing like That's guaranteed for all people But fuck not just the people Who are lucky to have it essentially, you know how we can fix all this right? Getting out there and vote Hey voter die voter die this vote this voting fucking this podcast is actually sponsored by voter die. So if you don't vote I've been so I'm like lost with all the conversations around voting. It's it's Hey, your ancestors died for your right to vote the onesie. I hate when people tricked me with that one Oh, they almost got me with that one when obama was running. They almost got me. But um, they got my ass in the gun 2000 was Yeah No 2012 was when you ran for the second 2012. Yeah Um, see that's how I know it's been a long day. It's it's just it's fucking wild bro. How People really want to make this system work for you. How my nigga? How are you going to make a system that was designed? to keep black people in poverty to Colonize indigenous land to keep back black people enslaved. How are you? How do you think the same system that enslaved you is going to be the same system that liberates you that gives you freedom? I just it's not that hard. I think it's because some people begin crumbs from the system. It's they like the crumbs You know It also doesn't help when you have black leadership People who you look up to people who you admire people who are put at the forefront Of the movement when you have them reinforcing that same logic and the state orchestrated activists as well Fred Hampton causal If the state's supporting you you for show ain't no no shit That's going to dismantle it the state will never give the people that could possibly Tear down a platform in power. Why would they ever play into their own demise work? Would you do that? Fuck no, we're never doing anything. That's bad for you. That's bad for your health You wouldn't do that. Come on. I know you so for me I just be getting so fucking lost but We had this conversation earlier right about okay, I understand Voting is like putting a bandaid on it. Let's put a bandaid on our problems until we can actually like, you know Do the things that are necessary for us to revolt But that's like the end of the discussion after it's like, all right people always talk about all right voting is like harm reduction But 364 days out of the year, you know not doing anything else You know I don't know. Sorry. I'll cut you off. No you keep going. You know People want to just act like voting is a civic duty. It's like no actually my civic duty is people's breakfast Oakland Why fucking wait to vote Once a year once whenever the fuck you vote right like To wait for these for these issues to change when you could what do we organize to Make solutions right you can organize to put pressure on the city to stop evicting houseless people, right? And then yeah, I think people need to be getting out of office But like knowing that the system isn't set up. I'm not gonna like spend a lot of time for Yeah, or or if I when I do I'm not gonna act like it's a I'm not gonna act like it's the end all be all I'm not gonna tell niggas like oh, this is the way to liberation like when people say shit like Not voting is we got us president Trump. Okay Maybe first of all, you don't even know All these white supremacist my nigga Like chiral college and if you even in california like california blue state nigga, it don't fucking matter if you vote It's gonna be fucking blue. Hillary Clinton was gonna get that shit Like So why the fuck you oh, you know blame somebody for not voting better niggas better quick niggas better chill with blaming black millennials for this Shit, I know that With this nigga that's an office right now. That's just what nigga. What don't you ever? No, who's I put some up for you the world criminal Hillary Clinton? Okay, my nigga So at least let's let's let's just call the lesser too evil. Let's not act like Hillary's gonna revive my liberation, bro She's still gonna kill me just might be a little bit slower. I might have a few more I'm making my money under this administration that I was under obama. So If niggas want to call spade spade, I'm like, let's just keep it. Let's just keep rocks pouring to obama administration too, bro Keep lit that be a sin, bro. Come on. I mean, but that also speaks to the local shit like bro We live in You know oakman and berkeley like Shit's different out here. You know what I'm saying like local politics This local shit has more of a daily effect on your life. So these voter die ass niggas Rarely ever talk about local shit It's like niggas trying to push me to go vote and of course I'm I'm pushing cat Just because of what I've seen her do and like the the information that I've been exposed to for her But like I don't know what props are going on I don't these voter die progressive people ain't even gonna give any fucking information I haven't seen nobody tweet no information out yet. I mean, maybe that's why I followed or whatever But I haven't that information is not been accessible. I see what props should you vote like I'm gonna have to go look and You know, there's some prop that's going to affect like trans shit that I'm gonna vote for Once I figure out the correct way to vote on that Um, there's some housing right control. I think it's prop prop 10. Yeah, I seen actually seen take Take go go I seen take tweet some shit earlier and they were saying some shit about prop 10 And that they don't know what they're gonna vote for but they know they're gonna vote this way on prop 10. Let me see I believe it's yes. I'm prop 10 Because twitter nigga jack was saying well, no Basically prop 10 is I believe rock rent control. Okay Look what that niggas said. I don't want to say some shit. I'm just I'm trying to grab my phone that motherfucker up there I'm talking about what we do for these video episodes y'all the niggas Tell you I just posted something earlier, you know, tell you just be like going on twitter and they're just deleting his shit And then come back on type of shit Fuck that's it. I think it might have happened So search is uh, I did it's not popping up. What's up shit? Search of the prop 10 on twitter we can't get information from these niggas But I believe prop 10 it's about rent control See, we should maybe do an episode where we actually study we need to get someone focus. I was really getting this shit And it's a like 12 because it's like Maybe someone from liby's camp It says yes long time for la tenants union. This is they're at That's trust. Yeah Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's yes on time. We should get where's the profit? Um, basically it's like rent control or shit I've never fully understood the concept of rent control. Rent control is basically like I know in the city of berkeley It can only raise every two years by a certain percentage certain percentage, right? But if your income isn't increasing by that, right even your income could increase But I'm saying so like say if boom I got rent control and they raise my shit every two years or whatever But I'm still making the same amount of money. Yeah, or I lose You know I'm saying I lose my job or some shit, you know, right? It's definitely not something that's perfect That's for sure. But it definitely is more it's more pro tenant Right. So like when I moved out of my apartment in berkeley, they raised that shit by two rex Because I was the original like person on the lease But they could never do that when I was living there. They could only raise it a certain amount Because because of rent control in berkeley where you can only raise the certain amount every two years That makes sense Not happy about it, but and I believe it will tax these big companies to To create like money for like I think to help solve homelessness or houselessness. That's why twitter was opposing it But That's I don't I gotta look more into props. I can't speak. Yeah speak on it, but I think those things matter more. You feel me? damn Fucking presidential shit. I just wanted to also at the end of the day This shit ain't gonna save us That's what I want us to acknowledge and I just want us to understand that do not let these people fucking fool you especially Again, I'm critical of black leaders leaders Because that's who I hang around. I don't really I know I can't trust no white person to ever lead me towards liberation I know that the odds are very slim But you know if it's gonna be black folks out here manipulating the masses the black masses like bro, that shit ain't cool And especially it's hella I know I know I know why they do it because it's appealing to the to the white gays, you know I'm saying like and there's a bag associated with it So it's you gonna you're gonna be you're gonna be appealing to white folks You're gonna look good to them. Why you shucking and jiving pushing the same system. That's just some overseer as shit I swear, bro. I don't fucking get it. I understand you. I do understand but Yeah, it's just hella frustrating to see people out here trying to convince and you know Like you said, right a lack for most for most poorer black folks the only the only um The only out that they have to To this shit the only way they get any this information The only way they're getting this education is from black folks and they trust in these black folks Okay, you look like me I'ma trust you especially if you came from some shit that I came from, you know, I'ma trust you to leave me The right I grew up in this neighborhood too, but they'd be on some shit where they really trying to gentrify the neighborhood You know bring more jobs for More jobs isn't the soul like what? Yeah, bro. It's hella frustrating, but I should be pissing you off But he's worried at the black leader that's trying to tell you to work within the same system That's enslaving you because at the end of the day But I feel like a lot of people just don't want to speak the truth Right, it's like people don't pay for them That's facts. Oh, we have to integrate and change it from the inside out nigga Martin with the king said I think I've integrated my people into a burning house Y'all niggas love to quote Martin with the king, but we'll never talk about that quote towards the end of his life He's like bruh. I really integration is not fucking working That's why they popped on because he was also becoming anti-capitalist too. Yeah and anti-imperialist, right So it's like How are you gonna appeal? How do you think your oppressor who puts you in this condition is gonna somehow save you out of the Condition you're gonna work for the oppressive system because that is somehow overthrow It's like, oh be the spook by spook that's out by the door. You niggas ain't spook that's out by the door You niggas ain't fucking organizing guerrilla warfare Like but everyone's like, oh, yeah, we gotta have that attitude. It's like but at the end of the day You're like, no you get comfortable I ain't gonna lie when I worked in a tech for like three months I'm at these tech companies. I'm like, damn this shit. She got a nice hella-free food hella-free shit And I had to be critical like oh, damn This is how they get niggas like man. I was taking shit out the bathroom. They had like free free mouthwash Precious and shit. I was like I'm taking all this shit. Inclusion how you kill a revolutionary Give me a little text to that shit How you kill a foster revolutionary? Yeah, you know, I stay stalled like don't crack my fuck never fall never bend free o3 Do you even know what that think of politics like? People have to edit this episode. I don't give a fuck We're editing this keep all the shit at the beginning. You can't edit this shit, bro What? You said I can't I'll figure it out. I'll pay somebody to do that. I swear to god I will I'll figure it the fuck out Uh, fuck we need to wrap this because I'm tired like I got ready for work tomorrow. Damn. It's hard. It's been like an hour or two I'm tired, bro. All right