 Still on the constitution matter. Why do we advocate for the total scrap of our present 1999 constitution? The constitution does not provide for acceptable fiscal federalism which means that states cannot generate sufficient revenue on their own because all minerals, mineral resources are vested in the exclusive control of the federal government. States do not need to depend on or be controlled by the federal government. Besides Lagos, Rivers and one or two other states in Nigeria, most states depend on the Federation accounts for as much as 80% of their revenue. So in what way will such a constitution promote autonomy and intentionality with resources, areas for revenue generation and sustainability internally? In one breath, the constitution gives the state government control over local governments. But in another breath, it makes local councils subordinate to the federal government. Thus, while the state government can create local government and determine their structure, their powers and their function, it is the responsibility of the National Assembly to incorporate any newly created local government into the constitution by way of constitutional amendment, which is quite cumbersome and in most cases unrealistic. I feel this process can be usurped by powers that be, for new dominance and ultimately control. The constitution in furtherance of its centralizing tendencies has no place for state or local police, whereas security is better handled at the local level. The issue of banditry kidnapping and the general insecurity is local and is therefore better handled locally. However, there is no provision in the constitution that allows government as chief security officers of their respective states to create and manage security outfits in their states. Because by constitution, there can only be one police force for the entire Federation and all individuals and persons of the police are prohibited from creating any other police force or security outfit to coexist with the current police force. State autonomy and policing is a huge plus on peace and development. The constitution also fails to state the specific functions of state and local governments. But it takes time to elaborate the powers and functions of the federal government. This tends to subordinate the state's government to the central government and puts the federal status of the 1999 Constitution that it debates. How will the local governments and states function in their fullness when the constitution is not clear as to what exactly their powers and functions are? For us to have a brand new constitution, there are some steps to follow. Number one will be the referendum where representatives at the legislature should be tasked with meeting their constituents and detailing every desire of these constituents for what the constitution should look like. These meetings can span months. All points must be properly documented in the most transparent and painstaking manner possible. Then there is the constitutional convention where the same representatives from the National Assembly and other stakeholders will publicly meet and debate on what should be contained in the constitution and what shouldn't. Every representative must be allowed free speech just like the constitutional convention assembled in Philadelphia in May 1787. Then there will be the documentation process. After debates have been properly weighed and analyses derived, decisions should be put in writing by a committee and then compressed. All parties will then sign an agreement if and when the document satisfies the needs of their constituents. Finally there will be approval and implementation by the president. What do you guys think? Well if I mean three things stood out for me there that I would really like to look at. Number one is the issue of the exclusive and the concurrentists which limits the powers the state government have to you know explore and all that stuff. Number two is policing and number three is the power of the local government and the state government. Now regarding the exclusive list I'd like to address that by quoting this biblical verse that we all know the parable of the the talent where the man gave some out and one kept it and at the point it said that you were not faithful in little and it took it from the guy that had one and gave it to the guy that had ten. That was happening in Nigeria now. Yes we know that there are limitations to the ability of states to explore the natural resources but when Nigeria had its boom I mean the success of Nigerian states or Nigeria's estates did not come from the all these so-called natural resources it came from agriculture. In the north they were exporting highs and skin or what's it called in the west cocoa in the east palm oil and all those other things. The state's government still have control over all these resources. What have they done with it? Nothing. Rather they sit down in their states and go cup in hand to the federal government and lament and get every citizen worked up demanding for things to be migrated from the exclusive to the concurrent. Now I'm not saying that is wrong. No we need it. The states need to have control but I'm saying even what you have control over right now why wouldn't what are you doing with it? Why wouldn't a boy say or let's say some states in the north okay I grow pepper I grow this I grow that. Lagos you are a consumption state. Now let's come to the government of Lagos because yes we have a ministerial about Greek in Lagos but we can't have time to grow anything. I'm sorry why won't you look for collaborations like it happened on that day and we had the is it kebbey rice? Kebbey rice. If we do more of that our states will grow and I think it's time for states like Lagos to also say okay there are too many people in Lagos. I'm taking my money partnering with Anambra or Eboi or emo state. I'm coming to set up a palm oil plantation just do that 30% or 50% of it comes to Lagos the remaining we export. We're creating jobs for the people there to stay there do the same thing in the north we rise do the same thing in the south west and you will reduce the pressure on Lagos that is the problem of Lagos. Now when it comes to policing it's another fairy tale that yes we need again it's good to have police in your state that you can relate with but to say everything goes back to the IGP for approval is not true and I'll give a very simple example. Governor Wike, yes Wike and his arc rival. What's his name? The former governor Rosimiamechi. Rosimiamechi was an his was an inviscid to river states blaring his convoy is a federal minister has that federal capacity. Governor Wike was also coming blaring his in his convoy a state ordinary state governor that doesn't have control over the state police. Supposedly. You know I'm using what everybody says doesn't have they meet and because it's the governor of the states the policemen that were with the federal minister had to calm down for him again when the federal government sent DSS to arrest a judge in his states it wasn't in the state house it was in the house of the judge he went there and told them they don't have the capacity and they pulled out. You know you know I need to add this part here. Okay. Governors become selective with when they achieve Thank you. That is what I never and let me bring out another case if you remember the case of this in most states yeah where the president governor is turning on when when they want to they can activate state apparatus especially during especially during elections state governors control everything even the way state electoral commissions vote and how they vote then selectively when there's ban G3 they are not in control and I tell people okay if there's any armed robbery case now like for example what happened in what is the state's offer yes I doubt the governor needed to call the IGP to release his voice you know you know the you see the breakdown of the police systems but the police structure Nigeria is such that you know you have the state's commander you have the is it regional or local government kind of commander then even within local government you have subunits that's why you have the subdivision etc etc now if things are happening for example let's say in this kosher fair area and there's crisis the commander in charge of this division doesn't need to call the state's commander for approval it takes charge the one in the local government doesn't need to call this divisional commander before it takes charge so if there's anything happening what I believe is a problem with policing in Nigeria which is something really need to address is that number one the people are under equips given the emoluments do not exist I wouldn't go kill myself all the policemen that have been killed on the street what has happened to the family and we're humans if my fellow policeman goes on one mission dies in Nigeria and you say sorry and all you get is a letter to the family why would I die for a country however two days ago a few days ago there was this thing about a just anyone for the four policemen to Somalia it's a it's a it's an international mission they are catered for they are paid well policemen will kill to go there and when they get there that is when you know Nigerian policemen are professionals I need to add a point before I now go about the same you know voting my own with my own version you have less than 500,000 policemen policing 200 million people and half of them are with VIPs or vital assets meaning banks CBN etc so we approximately have 210,000 policemen policing 200 million people you know that you're asking for does that so this is not even a problem now states they make me laugh you're talking about removing this from concurrently is too exclusive this now I'm going to number one states kidnap the entire local government which is this problem with with democracy in Nigeria yes so you can't ask for more control of resources when you are even kidnapping the resource of the local governments under you now federal government pays directly to local governments states have ingeniously come up with a very brilliant ministry which is ministry of so-called intergovernmental and lifting LG funds affairs no I just added that so they conveniently did that and then ensure that the funds are kept in the intergovernmental affairs then they disboss what they feel like governors are not as rich as they're supposed to be as regards policing we must be honest any governor that opens his mouth to discuss restructuring is one of the enemies of democracy and here is why if you haven't provided autonomy and even after the presidential the presidential executive order 10 of 2020 which instructs the autonomy to the judicial and legislature and governments are not full governors are not following which restructuring are you talking about you want it from the federal I do not support let me finish I do not support a state police with the present powers on the state governor as it is example we don't hate football because I'm not because of some governors no I'm being honest with the powers conferred on governors by the Constitution if you hand them a state police number one nobody will suck in that state number two nobody will be able to run against them there will be no opposition because they have kidnapped the legislature usually and you now want to give them enforcement simple create local police police should be restructuring in a new constitution what we are saying is it can be local it was yes so it shouldn't be states it should be you know one of the things I think we should consider when it comes to policing is this the reason they give for policing is that okay we want to have control the federal men is controlling everything but this is what they forget if you have state police and you still have a bad federal government the federal police still has more power than your state police so it can come into your state yes and take over because what you're saying now is abuse in the system because what is happening now what they claim is happening that the federal control everything it's an abuse if that is what is happening so if you're running away from abuse you don't create another avenue for even bigger abuse the Constitution will be clear what to do in such a situation and then we're forcing so many things that written a constitution that we're not enforcing right now for example local government autonomy judiciary and all which which are already provided in the constitution you know the major problem of the constitution in Nigeria is that it is not even implemented to 40% exactly that's where the major problem is and that's why a lot of people are scared to talk about a new constitution because we have a new constitution then with the improved Senate that we have the 10th assembly the night assembly is most brilliant assembly as I've ever seen of course I'm speaking such but you know if you have that caliber of people in the house the federal house with a new constitution we're doomed I'm being honest and I cannot show you 50% of them do not even know Nigeria's constitution that's true that's in itself I agree so I think one of the key things in trying to get a new constitution will be as Nigeria is trying to get a new constitution we also should try and get at least 48 senators into the house and like 160 house of breath into the houses so that we know that while we're creating a new constitution it's with a new crop of minds that actually know what they are doing and now this should not be ah this person stood during and says ah the person will probably make a good later no the person will not make a good later that is a big mistake may not obviously in times in my political experience 70% of time will not make a good they will go through the electoral college as well we wouldn't show that happen so we can't be careful we are solution providers here we can just be talking about the problems we are also provide preferring solutions so if we pick someone who is able to speak we just say go through the process to learn like you said you don't become a doctor so we teach you what you do so that you can add it to all the other solve it but you know I think what will also help solving it best is that when we finish teaching those who are aspiring for office we also teach the constituents what to expect from me that is key because and that is what we need before we can introduce a new constitution because you see I always say I believe there are a lot of people that are vying for the seats of the precedents I'm sorry let me just say the philadelphia is all I mean it I feel I respect and in terms of their success rate and all that I believe rather than go to the presidency we need to get them into the the National Assembly because if we get a lot more of them into the National Assembly it will be easier to then speak with the president our conversations here will never be complete and they will not be complete without you at the positive professional says way to go Joyce you're such a confident positive inspiration keep impacting and imparting positively thank you so much do well to follow us on our social media platforms on Facebook plus TV Africa 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