 What was it like in practice going against BM Manning? Well up to that point I played with some pretty good quarterbacks but nothing compared to him. He was by far the most prepared. I'm not even going to say he was the most talented you know physically but he knew where to put the ball. He was always a step ahead. You know God's rally around him. He's a true leader by example. He's going to yell and scream and make sure everything's almost perfect. I mean unfortunate for me I was in my 12th year or 13th year by the time he came so you know it is what it is. I relished that time at the at the time. It was you know I think every player should have that privilege of playing with a great player like that to really see what it's like to be a pro.