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Oh yeah, he was on this, he was on this. But what about when I do this to him right here, man? Check it, man. It's that boy, little Chris in the building, man. Man, how you doing, man? Man, cool, man. Man, it's good to have you, man. Thank you for coming on our show, man. Man, I'm glad to be. Hell, man, you know. Man, hey, man. So, hey, man, just tell me, you know, man, being from down here, man, you know, you hear all the stories, man. You know what I'm saying? You hear everything about what's going on. We going to get into all that. We about to get in your background. This is what we do on Boss Talk. It's just a conversation. We just talking. So, you know, what would you think about it, Miss Jamaica? How you liking Chicago, man? We down here. No, I love Chicago. Yeah, we've been down here before. So, you know what I'm saying? But we never had Boss Talk when we was down there before. So Boss Talk is just a year old. So when we, man, when we started Boss Talk, we never knew it was going to take off like this. And it just, bam, just took off. So what I love the most about Chicago, this trip around is the people. Everybody has been just talking to us and having us, you know, feel welcome and stuff like that. So that's what I love the most about it. Yeah. Other than that, of course, I love the water. Well, the people talked to us the first time. It just was the white people. We stayed at the W. We stayed away from the nigger. We had heard all these horror stories when we came back. We came to Naperville, you know what I'm saying? We are. We really wasn't trying to hear this in the city stuff. They got scared to come in on the south side and on the west side. This time, I just happened to get some of that chicken. What's the name of that chicken place down there? Harold's Chicken. Yeah. I had stopped by Harold. And CC, it is not the best. OK, so you said they better than Rudy's better than Rudy's. Check it, man. At all. Texas, man. Not even better than what you call it, the one down there. And is it Mississippi or Alabama? Green Acres down there. It's in Birmingham, Alabama. Touch Green Acres much less. No, I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna just hate on them because I'm going tomorrow. I'm not hating on them. The one we went to today, we there's a chain of these things around here. So we want to make sure we didn't just, you know, jump off in the wrong one. So we got to hit that right one, man. Look, Chris, what's up, man? So what are they banging at? Nigga, nah, I'm just kidding. No, man. So, man, being from down here, man, growing up as a kid, man, speak right up to the mic. What part of Chicago are you from? South side. Oh, that boy from the south side. So how is it? Yeah. How is it, man? You grew up here, born and raised. Yeah, man, born and raised, man. I mean, if you don't go on the wrong street, man, you would be smooth. That's all. Really? You just got to be cool. That's all, man. So you say going on the wrong street. Explain, like, what's the wrong street? Nigga, I don't know. No streets, nigga. It's a lot going down, you know? So you got to be on your piece and cues all the time. You feel me? Like, man, you got to cue somebody with you at all times and, you know, be watching your back at all times. You feel me? I mean, if you ain't in there, you really got nothing to worry about. You just got to look around yourself, you know? Watch those serenades. Is this gangs, gang related? It is gangs. That's all. That's all it is. OK, but it's gangs out here is not like gangs in LA. No, man. It's totally different. They both different, but they got their own poison. Where did gangs out here originate? Is it just from out here? Because, you know, you had, you have, you have a history of stumb down history out here. You got the gang's disciples. You got the vice lords. You got the what they call that black beauty. Yeah, yeah, all that. So, you know, you got that originated from here. Yeah, that's that's that's here. OK, yeah, you I wasn't sure it originated from here. Because that's how you have Bloods and Crips that originated from LA, but it has spread all around the world. That's why I'm trying to figure out was it originated somewhere else and then start, you know, came here. It ain't really yet. No more people making their own games. So it's a lot of man, it's funny, man. Like you grew up here, right? Did you grow up in your house with your mom or your dad? So how did how did you what you didn't have parents? So what do you mean by now? I'm my auntie. Why you don't know your dad? Yeah, I know my dad. I'll be around my post all the time. He was just locked up, you know, OK. How old were you? I was like, what? Seven. Seven. So you remember him being there for you before seven or you don't remember that? Oh, yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember a little glimpse of, you know, I was young. So how long was he young? About what? From nine, it was like a couple of years, like 10 years. 10 years. Yeah. And so what was your mom at? I mean, I ain't got that to you. So you never seen or never met in your life? I mean, yeah, I've been around when I was younger. I mean, but was it drugs? No, I ain't want no drugs and nothing like that, man. It's just, I mean, the relationship just, I mean, you feel me like. So you never had a relationship with your mom from the job? No, I did. How old was it when? I don't know. I'm going to tell you like, tell you like this, man, you feel me like when I don't, you don't want to come and say what people you feel me like when you, you can't find nobody that don't want to be found, you feel me. So that time, man, you can't be chasing people when you get a certain age. You like, man, you can't feel me. So you basically, you were young and she really just wasn't there. Like she should be as a mother. I mean, yeah, she was at the time. Like, you know, I go over a crib and all my auntie would drop me off over there. You feel me like. So your auntie had had custody of you? Yeah. So your auntie really raised you? Which is your mom's sister or your dad's sister? Oh, my dad, auntie. That's my great auntie. Oh, your dad, auntie. Okay. And so you, what would have caused parents to disconnect from a child like that? You see what I'm saying? I know the system will catch you up. 10 years and definitely, yeah. So did you ever have to, did you ever... Are you the only child though? Nah, I got like, I like seven, seven. Yeah, seven brothers and sisters. I got five brothers and three sisters or something. By a different mom than that. But are you the only one by the same mom than that? Yeah. Okay. So you weren't the only one going through this or... Nah, man. Like all my sevens is shit. How did that make you feel? As much as you had your grand aunt there for you, giving you support, how did it feel not to be able to have your mom and your dad in your life growing up as a young man? I mean, I just had to deal with it, you know what I mean? I was forced to, you feel me like grow up, like you feel me like fast. So I had to take on responsibility quick, you feel me like I had to go out there and get it, you know. You know, you be everybody on, I grew up in the air, everybody on their phones and shit. So, you know, I mean, my bad. So I'll do it. You know, I'll be saying, you feel me, you will see, you know, look nice, everybody with nice stuff and you know, design and all that. So you feel me, I wanted that. So I had to go out there and get it, you feel me? Yeah. So you liked to have to do what you like. What you, what's the, what's, you get to say designing me, what's that B.B. Simon, what is that? Nigga, what you wearing, Gucci, Fendi, that Dochi, Dior, Prada, you like all that designer? No, not now, man. But back then you did. Yeah, back then I really wanted it. You know, I think people sometime now like kind of back off from like designing like that. It's kind of like people beginning to wear their own brand a lot, bro. Like people like, I'm going to go create this myself. I don't want stuff to feel like that. I've been seeing that way for a minute now. Yeah, I have been, but that's good. Or they'll promote other black owned businesses that promote other people's business, their friends, people that they really support. You know what I mean? Well, back in the days they did that. You, y'all was too young to remember, but back during the Africa Bambada and like the African flags and stuff, people were more prone to wear things to represent our people. Our culture. We would stick their hands up, power to the people. And it was, there was a real, we embraced each other more at the time. So I hope we're getting back to that. But okay, look, Chris, you in Chicago, what side of town are you on? Are you on? Okay, I'm not from here, nigga. When I think about this town, I think about Little Dirk. I think about Chief Keef. I think about Kanye West. I think about Obama, Michelle Obama. I'm trying to figure this thing out. You know what I'm saying? I'm here in your city. You from the South side, you basically, you don't, I know you're doing your thing. You love your music. What made you jump into music, man? And how old were you? I was like, I've been into music. Like, you know, I was at lunchtime, you know, like free styling and rapping and stuff, you know what I mean? Or my cousin, you know what I mean? He started, he was like, man, he might as well take a seat. You know, I wanted to play football, like real serious, like, you feel me, like go pro with it, you know what I mean? What position? Running back. You want to put you running in the 40, nigga, stop capping on my show, nigga. What you running in the 40, nigga? What you running? No, I ain't no dancing. You ain't running on pole too? I ain't do none of that. I just ran the ball, man. But when you hit the pole, when you hit the hole, would you, I mean, would you hurt your walker? Or would you, you know, I'm from Dallas, well, I live in Dallas, I'm from Texas. So were you, you Chicago Bears, who was that? Oh, would you refrigerate a pear or something? You wasn't even born when that nigga was running the ball. Who the hell was you, like, like, you was, who was that new nigga that ran off and left your team? He quit on your AB, nigga, nigga, Lee, y'all. Who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who? Who do you think, who do you think, who do you think that, my boy played for the Bears? My boy Taylor Gabriel, shout out, man. That's my guy. Yeah, that's my, he grew up in my store as a kid. He, before he got to y'all, he was with me. Yeah, man, but I don't, you be hurt behind him when they be losing. Like, damn, man. I'll be trippin'. So let me help me understand, man, like, like, what is it, what is it that makes you wanna rap and whose style would you say you kinda, like, they would compare you to when you, when you rappin'. When you drop in lyrics, who would they say you, like, he run like, say to have you heard that, people say? Mm-hmm. Me? I got my own stuff, I don't rap like nobody. So you different from everybody? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? So I'm versatile and all that. You go hard in the pain? So I don't really rap like nobody. I don't feel like that. I mean, I ain't really heard nobody feel me saying, oh, you rap like somebody else. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm out. A lot of people usually end up tend, have tendencies to rap like the person that they look up to most. The person that they, when you first started listening to rap music, the songs that you like, that rapper, that man. Man, I swear. So you didn't just like anyone? Keith. Oh, okay. So you have a Chicago style of rapping? Yeah. I mean, that's what I grew up listening to, like, feel me like, or if I'm in that, like in my auntie car or something, you know, she put on the jazz, you know. She put on her jams, I mean. But when I, you know, I run with my cousins and you know, my uncles and them, you know, they put on them, they put on them. Hip hop, feel me? You know, shit. So where do you see the rap taking you? I mean. What do you want to get out of it? I just want to feed my family out of, like, get everybody out of the struggle. Man, they don't feel good to struggle. You feel me? Like, it's a lot of people that's trying to make it for real. You feel me? I just want to help me. You know, people like, you feel me? Get to where they going? Already. They feel good, man. We already got life hard, man. You feel me? You might as well as how I have money. You know, help everybody else. What are you doing to get there? I mean, right now I'm trying. Other than just rapping, but like, business-wise, building a team-wise, research, I mean, just anything. Like, as far as rapping and stuff? Rapping or being a brand, because that's what a rapper is in today's society. You have to be your own brand. I mean, I'll be rapping, like, you feel me? Like, that's a hobby. I don't really, I don't even take any serious for real. I'll be, like, putting stuff on YouTube, you know? I know how to put it up, I don't even feel me, like, all the platforms and stuff, but... What's been your biggest impact when you did that? Something like, damn, this is getting good traction. I mean, like, when I, like, started, like, posting on Instagram and stuff, and, like, people started, like, like, hit my phone, like, damn, like, you cold, like, you know, like, and then there'd be a lot of views, and I ain't think I'll... I seen the views go up. Yeah, I'm like, damn, what the fuck? I swear, you know, I ain't never had, like, I wanted a thousand views of Real Bad before, so I ain't never had that before. So when I hit a thousand views and then kept going, I'm like, damn, I keep doing it, I'm just keep doing it, damn, yeah. Y'all ready, man? I'm gonna try to find you a beat. Step, mess with them, with a little bit for me. Hey, boy, I say he gonna drive me 16. Let's see what the boy got. You all boss talk 101, man. Let's go, boss talk 101, man. Look, quickly, get it. Rico, got that fire, got that fire. You don't wanna smoke with me, let's get this understood. Counting all this dirty money, it's straight out the mud. If you ever ask what's wrong with me, I always say I'm good. I release all this pain, then one thing, and that's this wood. If you ever say what's down, I'm coming rushing, we know coming out. I got those rap, so you come in and splat. I know some niggas come back and they, yeah, I'm on the back, I'm on the back and I'm front end. I'm free to back and I'm front end. Baby, she come in, she runnin'. I'm on the top of the back, trumpin' up on my floor. These niggas know how I go. These niggas know how, these niggas know how I don't talk. Yeah, these niggas know how I come back. I got the rap, it's come back and I'm slat. I got the rap. Yeah, man, hold up, man. Yeah, man, hold up. Hey, man, I love the flow. Hey, I love the flow, man. You just like to keep going. I'm really freestyle. Isn't it? Really freestyle, let me say, man. I got this young nigga in there fired up. We gon', yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the one you like. I like that shit, man. That's cool. Man, how you feel when you be rapping, man? You be lovin' to just rap. Yeah, I just be throwin'. Yeah, man, I mean, that's what when I be gettin' fired up with my homies and stuff, feelin' me out at the beginning. So we be rapping and shit in the car and we be freestylein', man. Just sayin' anything, man. Yeah, let me ask you this, man. You mentioned earlier that you had brothers and sisters, man. How do you ever, do you ever try to look out for them and they're younger than you? Yeah, I mean, I tell them, keep their head up, man. Feelin' me, I'll be around like, you know, a brother. You feelin' me, like, I'll be around whatever they mean. I mean, some of them, like, what, 12, my sister, just turned 13, my brothers, I ain't seen them in a minute. They like, what, seven, eight? I got one, like, another sister, she a little baby. That's my, I know my momma got a baby, so, you know. Wow. Yeah, it's me and my sister. So what do they say when they see you? They be happy. Yeah, they be happy to see me, yeah. My big brother, right? My sister needs to be up on me, man. They feel me. Oh, yeah? Yeah, she be smiling every time she see me butting, man. She be puttin' a pause on me. She be puttin' a pause on you? Man, that's the way it be, man. Like, you the family, you the big brother, man. You gotta stop through there and check them out whenever you get an opportunity, man. That right there, you know, help them so much, right? Don't you agree? Mm-hmm. Because they goin' through it. Sometimes people be goin' through it, man, and at the end of the day, just to see you is somethin' that'll make them feel so much better. Right, and then you might be goin' through it just for you to see them. It makes you feel better as well. Definitely. Yeah, man, I'ma chop that up. But I got a question. Tell me your top three artists of all time down in the live. Any genre. So it doesn't have to just be rap. Did or love. Mm-hmm. Chief Keef. Why be givin' them niggas? Hey, all black. Shot time, really, Chief Keef had this on lock for a minute. Y'all niggas tryin' to act like y'all don't know but y'all know what a deal. Yeah, for real, nah, but he ain't done that. So who's your number one? Probably good, so. Pop. Okay, number two. Give me somethin', nigga. That nigga said, Pop, nigga, Pop birthday tomorrow. Niggas stop playin', nigga. You niggas better respect Pop, nigga. Let's go. Number two. Biggie, man. Biggie, right behind it. So in the past, you know, felt that torn feelin' like I have to pick Biggie or Pop. I mean, I went in that arrow and it filled me. I don't know too much about him. I just heard a story about him and stuff. Listen to that music. Listen to that music and you feel me and like really hit a story for real. So, man, but Pop, man, I really feel me. I can relate to a lot of what he's saying. You feel me a lot. What he's saying, shit's still happening today. Man, you know what that nigga said on the song. He say, I smoke a blunt to take my pain out and if I wasn't high, I'd probably try to blow my brains out. I'm hopeless. They should've killed me as a baby but now they got me trapped in the storm. I'm going crazy. Forgive me. They wanna see me in my casket and if I don't die, I'll be a victim of them bastards. Y'all not ready, man. Y'all don't know the pocket real, bro. That nigga ain't nobody to play with. You know what I'm saying? And who was your number three? Number three. Biggie say, I'll let my, hold on. Biggie say, I'll let my tape rock till my tape pop. You don't know what the hell that's talking about. At the time of when that cassette tape go all the way to the end, they go, that big go pop nigga. You have to flip it over to the other side. That's an old school nigga. That's an old school nigga. That's why he said that. He said, I never thought it could happen. Just rapping stuff. I was too used to packing gats and stuff. Y'all, you know, these niggas was rapping, man. When it wasn't even nobody was doing it like they was doing it either. So who was that number three? Number three. Chief Keith. He said he was in there. I knew it. I knew you were gonna say Chief Keith there by the nigga. I just asked somebody did Chief Keith create drill, didn't I? And yes, guess what he did? Man, so. That's the creator of that, man. Everybody rapping, man. Everybody rapping. Everybody drill rapping, man. But what about Lil Durk and Lil Durk, man? Do you listen to them? Yeah, definitely, man. I listen to Durk Harlem. Everybody does, you feel me? Lil Durk is one of them guys? Yeah. How did it affect you when King Vaughn got killed? You know, how did it affect the city that you think, you know? I mean. Because he was in Atlanta, right? Yeah, I ain't from over there, I feel me. I know a couple people from over there. Yeah. All the homies and shit. Did you listen to him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be listening to him, but you know, I mean, it had definitely affected the city. You feel me? You feel me? He cared about this. You feel me? It's blocked, so, you know? I mean, he real, he's Chicago legend, you feel me? So, you know, he want no bitch out of the rapper that he ain't giving back to. You feel me? It's community. So, you know, he a real nigga for, you know, splitting that check, man. He getting for the rap shit, man. You feel me? Like, that's some real nigga shit. Like, a lot of people don't come back to the hood and be like, oh, you feel me? Give y'all some bread. Got niggas giving sandwiches and shit, man. I never was in the room with King Vaughn. I've been in the room with Chief Keith, you know? But I never been in the room with King Vaughn, you know? So, it's just, but I definitely shout out to Asian Doll. Asian Doll is from Dallas, so that was his, that was his, you know, his girl when he passed away. So, you know, that's the kind of stuff that I do know that she probably, when I do interview those questions will come up, you know what I'm saying? There's another guy down here, Duc, what's his name? FBG Duc. FBG Duc. Was he from your side of town or no? So, he from, what place is he from? 63rd. 63rd? So, that's a different side of town. So, you know, Chicago is different, man. So, it's got East Side, West Side. So, you couldn't go to his side of town? I can go wherever I want to, but. You got to be just, you got to stay ready, right? So, you got to be ready for whatever, feeling like. Like, if you go to certain parts of town, do people automatically know you're not from that side of that town? I mean, you know what I mean? You on a block all the time, you know, what's going on. So, you see it when a nigga don't, you like, who's that nigga right there? I don't know, like, damn, who the fuck? Like, most of these people are raised amongst each other. So, have you ever been in your neighborhood and somebody get caught off guard by like? Slipping. Like, who is that? I mean, it was like, we, like, we asked him, like, where you from? Like, where you feeling like, where you going? Like, maybe, there ain't gonna be nobody. It was, you know, you guys, you might've been too young to remember. I ain't done nothing to be happening on my block, man. It'd be cool and shit. Well, it's a show that was on TV called Empire. And they had a guy by the name of Jesse Smollett. And this guy said that he had got, you know, like kidnapped, beat up at night, three in the morning. He was, and, but they ended up saying that it wasn't true, you know what I'm saying? And I just was saying, in Chicago, man, you had two, three in the morning, there's people out at night. Yeah. Not too many people, like, as it is, if it's early, but. It'd be people out there all night? Yeah, yeah. Said I'd be out all night, man. It was another little dude that just got killed here about a week ago. What was this guy name? He was, he was affiliated with that duck guy. Oh, he was talking about cash, man. Cash, what's his name? FBG Cash, I'm feeling it. FBG Cash. Yeah. And that was here, no, that was that in Chicago that he got killed? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Wow. So, dude, when you hear about this stuff, because this happening all the time, do you, how does that affect you? It's normal for you. It's just normal, because you've been born into it. Is it like every week something crazy happens? Yeah, about every day, not every week. So, yeah. What would change that? Shit, nothing. Nothing? Nothing. Not even like, say, politicians come up and start trying to do right by the people, try to get everything, no? Why? Because it just don't want to change? Man, it's been going on, past, shit. Yes, man, way before it. So, just because it's been going on for generations in the past, I mean that there's no possibility of change? Because people, man, I mean revenge, people got their own feelings and people were like, if they got that in their heart, they want to kiss somebody, feelin' they gon' do it. Got you. Man, if you go back and change anything that you've been through within the last, say, four years, five years, what would you change? You keep it all to say. Why? Man, it's just because it just made me who I am, it feelin' me like everything, I feel like everything do happen for a reason, like it's gon', everything got a cause and effect. It feelin' me like, so, man, if you come from the struggle, man, a lot of times, man, deep down, man, you carved that rock out, man, you gon' find some decent, man, jewels, shit. So, if you feelin' me like, it's just on how you built, you feelin' me? Crazy part about it is, man, you on Boss Talk 101, man, a lot of people tryin' to get on this station, man, it's crazy how it happened that you got here, man. Shout out to your Ken people over there, man, that may have happened, man. I ain't never did no part, it was my first. Yeah, nigga, we pulled you out of just nigga nowhere, nigga, he did that to you, man. That boy did that to you, you oughta give it up. That's your manager, nigga, you don't even realize it. He definitely said he's your manager. I'm your manager. That's for real, that's your manager, man. So, at the end of the day, for him to make that move for you, that's what managers do. They look out, you know what I'm sayin'? When you ain't even thinkin' about them, they thinkin' about you. So, that's love, man. Big love, man, so you gotta keep them kinda round, man. That's genuine, you know. So, how can people get a hold of your own IG? You can follow me, man, I love Chris, 223 underscore. Okay, and you gon' follow Boss Talk today. You gon' tap in, cause you gotta tap in, and anytime, you know what I'm sayin'? If you ever in Texas, you gon' come see me in Dallas. If I'm ever in the shot, I'm gon' get you back on the show, man. We gon' keep this thing rollin', man. Is it anything, do we leave anything out? Anything you wanna shout out? Anybody you wanna shout out? Some of the people that mean a lot to you? Man, shout out to everybody that been rockin' with me, man. Shit, you know, I shit this music shit, man. I'm finna take off for real in this shit, man. So, I can help everybody else out. That's dope, man. That's what it is. Man. If I ever get on, I feel it. I know if, yeah, no, you doin' your thing. Regardless, nigga, you gon' get it on. Check it, man. Say, man, it's been another great segment. Oh, Boss Talk on the one. What a Boss talk, man. And we out.