 Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk. We're gonna have fun. We'll be on fire. We'll be lately It's a unique husband. Check it. Check it. Check it. It's unique house. It's your boy ECO and no money modes by the way And we're creating content every damn day man. Check it man. Hey man. We back in the city man Like we never left. You know what I'm saying and I ain't gonna lie to you man I was ready to get back to this temperature. I'm playing games. It's 50 up there and 50 seen cool in the Windy City, man. I was just getting just getting back from Chicago and guess who we got on the panel again Man, this one more game this guy right here, bro Like I said, man, this dude is one of the most dopest artists that I really rock with when it come down to real Ain't gonna turn on nobody Gonna be solid from the day you meet him to the day he leave this serve. I really believe that man twisted black Thank you for coming on the show man. I appreciate you having me man Say, I'm sorry. I didn't make it to the blue me mess blue me Apologize Listen, man, I don't get much out on the town Okay, but what I do I do and I'm gonna get on to a video or something. I say I'm getting on something with it But it's coming. I can promise you You got your chance coming November the 17th. What you become this doing the versus me and chief, you know I got to get chief on here I want to hear his side of the story too because I already know I don't know how you won't get around the Blows of them eat greedy volumes, man. Man, listen, I'm about to crush you. You hear what I just said That'll be hard Yeah, that's my guy should have brought in the night that would have been hard we could have talked about some stuff I'm gonna 17 and it would definitely man. I'm so I'm ready for it You know what I'm saying? I want to see like I really want to see like like Nobody's ever done learning like that. How did you guys even come up to say, you know what? We're gonna do something that's gonna make an impact differently than what we've been seeing man chief forgot at me You know because they know my situation, you know, I'm shout the session words for you know, come up here with me. Okay He knew my situation. No, I can't really you know move and shake like I want to so we just start coming up with ideas You know that we hustlers, you know how to you know, push this music and and bring the town back together You know, I mean it's for worth in Dallas and you know, what better way than a battle, you know, man What you think about money most you ain't never get to meet you ain't get to meet I'm going with you cuz I don't know his mood like did that's cool Say man, okay So when you think about just just just the music and and and everything that you've been seeing since you've been home We don't get into the album But I want to know what you think about the music that you've been hearing and and and seeing you know happening I hear since you've been home Man, I'm proud of you guys, you know, I mean the one thing I said about these younger artists is they continue to push Yeah, I mean when you when I first came home when you told me to beat me over the head like Content content content. It's true day on it. I'm saying they added it every day. I'm watching you so much I seen you drop a video was today that video drop today or either yesterday on have paints channel Okay, I was upset about that Why cuz it need to be on your channel Well, I'm gonna tell you why if it's his music if it's some heels then that's different Right, but if it's if it's something I just know the grind is real and you and it's gonna it's gonna pay off And it's gonna start off looking a certain way, but it's gonna grow into something that's gonna be greater later So what the only reason it wasn't on our channel is because the situation I mean we use vivo Okay, so it's gonna come out on Vivo so it'll be everywhere and We usually let Vivo take get a hair start on it and then we'll we'll push it. Okay, okay I mean, you know some of this is education, you know Education for the old boy, but then you know, but I am watching hey But eventually you write because you know as my numbers continue to grow then everything will start up low into matcha I know but right now she's happy. I got the following half time doing this tiny love. No, that's my boy He just he just left. Yeah, you know And he had another hard-working guy when I talked to him he was out of town. He was man He works real tough. I can tell you right now, man I went through and listen to federal guidelines man ain't gonna lie to you man I enjoyed it, you know, I'm saying I had my my core moments You know certain things that you know hit hit with me and you know Most of it's part of the prison stuff to be honest with you Right some of the things about about that sticks out for me, you know what I'm saying But you have some known some people on there. I want to say oof. What's his name? Man, this nigga That's my young animal. I want to say that nigga had like a David No, no, no one that was plies in that hook the hook the way that Okay, okay in the hook go back and listen you go see what I'm talking about you heard it too You didn't that's what I heard No, different the way he wrapped versus the way that bird sound was different to me Yeah, he just the way he rapped versus the way that that that hooks the hook sound You were rocking that whole like rough and then he'll come in smooth on so he maneuvered Oof ain't gonna do on his job. We're gonna eat. Yeah Move ain't oof. I can't I'm talking about for is the way the way the way the way the way the bird Waffle he was more gritty on the hood. Yeah, then that's what I'm saying focus, you know, like So how you nearly we actually met through some prison ties. That's real one of my partners I was in prison with then every prison I went to that asked me about oof I'm like where you find like for what I'm like, man. This ain't nobody before over me. They're right There's me being there. Good. Just talking shit. Yeah, and uh, and finally I Started asking about is he there already like man, like he heard, you know So eventually we ended up linking, you know by phone and locked in man You know, he helped me through some tough times. Wow. We kept the link so soon like I home immediately You know, I'm like, let's ride Wow spot my camera crew I think that's I think that's that's that's heavy man because But but yeah oof man, like I said, he killed that man understand me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that went in man Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Like I said, you guys Working on the project now. Oh, yeah like Tom Brady and What's my man Aaron Rodgers? That's what we call ourselves. That's hard. That's hard man So, I mean the welcome home was the one that you had already it had that been out yet And it almost made me I guess cuz the video you did when you first came home the first day out It made me think of that not not not in your person to the the sound or nothing Just the way the way it cuz it seemed almost like he was talking about that's exactly what you see You're on point. That's what made me come with the song man. Man. My city up hit me with open arms man blew my show just tripped me out for real for real, so Because I ain't know who you were till you got up. That's cuz you'll see there Yeah, yeah, I definitely I definitely yeah, I definitely Man just when I think about how you guys, you know, you guys put that together. It didn't take you no long time either I mean you you know the David and Goliath track really like Certain things I see. Did you do that when you locked up? Yeah, who sent me that record while I was locked up That's what I thought and I just I just poured my emotions on that one at David and Goliath I'm talking about you play that in the club. She's gonna have a hard time here Hard time before work man David and Goliath She's gonna be rough. So you bring it before work. You coming up. Oh that you got home home feel advantage Fly it out and I may use it. You better. I better man. No, chief got his oh chief gonna bring it man You know, he got that cushion a bow. Yeah Never he never he never get he not gonna be shook I can promise you that And I'm talking my crap, but at the same time, you know, it's really 50-50. Oh, yeah, man Like if I get to hear too much of his music, I go to rule another way, you know, you love it for music as well Man, I mean, you know, I gotta you know, I'm gonna we're gonna go back into that But you gotta bring up the fact that you seen when I don't know if you've seen it But when we I did put it out to Bun be when I sit down with him. I brought you into that conversation. I didn't see it You didn't see it. I should have sent it to you show so much. Yeah, but I spoke on you know, what I'm super proud of him Yeah, yeah, he's just done turned the corner, you know for you. Yeah, he'd be sitting next to JZ Did you see where he also shot out there? I'll be 300 when you reach out to LD. I didn't see that on phase time said he wanted to be on his album Yeah, so I love me I'll be like man, let's cause a boss talk everybody When I first came on do boss talk now, you know, I'm like who told you My manager Like do it. This is gonna be beneficial. So we talked and you know, I felt his spirit and came and man He been connecting that's me That's where I do Everybody we and then he won't tell you just what you want to hear. No No, I'm gonna be fun enough movement I just feel like it's a what as a wheel there's a way we can figure it out We might not do it on the level we want to do it, but we gonna be able to do it I just know that man long as you work. You already you are a star You as my boy shout out to a minister Seymour said you're a superstar You're a superstar. So I think you just got to walk into your destiny and then doing so if you're working And you go to extra mile because that's what I go by the extra mile concept Yes, I mean I just told you I get up every morning three you like what yeah Because I know everybody else ain't doing that better say and then I got to talk to my connect in Europe too Because I got different people that I deal with out of the country. So it's like I'm trying to figure things out And if you get up late People in New York, they are our head people in California. They are our behind So I'm looking at all these different in you and those trying to figure out a way to maneuver our Algorithm into the midst of what's going on when it comes down to time But you know man you just took that From over there and brought it in this game, bro. I always say the best That's totally what it is. I know you go with All glory to God as long as I got sound mind good health and you know, I don't put out no bad Man, so you put you put my boy No shame on that thing man Say and the boy went down through that but that was that was a touching one though, wasn't it? Yeah, that would have mama, but that's your mama on there for real in the beginning. Yeah Don't that man. I wish I had that boy. I'm jealous right now cuz you know, I lost my mom in And so I ain't got nothing but I just said I just showed my my son the picture. I got two pictures. No, mm-hmm Three I got three pictures. Wow. You see what I'm saying That's why I go so hard with this cuz I want to make sure I leave something behind Just it just a moment just anything you could you doing the same thing? Yeah, you know But that song was touching man, and it seemed like you know, all of your song seemed like you going at somebody That's what I like about that. Yeah, you're saying the all of them so and it's based on some it's somebody on the Internet Well, I hear it. I say, oh man, he's sending them some blimms out. It's just like whoa Whoa, I think is there you killing it. I'm a subliminal type of guy. Yeah. Yeah, you and Drake both you people need Yeah, you know, I'm not really gonna I'm not with the caddy type stuff the back and forth because I ain't you know, I'm really not a controversial type of person But I will get you back. Yeah Well, I mean like I said, man I know already man like I said, I hear things, you know Your name your name pop up in a lot of things, you know, yeah, I definitely heard Charleston white The other day he was in back of a Ambulance or something. Yeah, and he talked about somebody said something to you and when he said something he Hugs you or something when you when you came home and He got pistol weapon. Wow. I'm just telling you what what he what he tried to equate to this Situation too, but the thing I look at is the internet. Yeah, I don't trust nothing on the internet not even so even even so far as Don't trust him because he ain't get pistol Well, I don't know church young man Anybody know if you get pissed with you gonna have a scar in type of metal hit your face You're gonna have a little scar scratch or something. You have no scratch through my hands You got put on I think and I want to be honest with you. I believe he's you know He's real crafty and when he comes down to it What we're doing right now is exactly what he would like what he won't because because this is the game that we're in And and like I said man, he figured it out when he come down to getting that attention to be honest with you Yeah, yeah, look if I wake up, I can cut my throat. Hey in that area in that arena He did it and he doing it. So yeah, yeah Well, some is Biggest interview probably ever in life one of them is at the top of the list is when old G's ran him up out of here And they got into it right here in this store. That's probably one of the ones man that If they were giving out Oscars and Grammys for a podcast and other and they was being fair I got one the first year because I'm the only one stuck them niggas up in here like that All of them California Emotions yeah, it was it was going down so but one thing I want to say to you is like why maybe just ask you like like How do you keep your composure when when when you being trolled? Being trolled, you know the terminology cuz you've been gone. Yeah, I'm here now. Okay. Yeah That's light work. I Be lying and trying to put on if I say, you know things that people say don't buy these sometimes Especially when it when it's to what your loved ones, you know that can bother you but I Got a lot to lose. Yeah, and I've been through a lot. Yeah, I just did 17 years in two months in prison for really doing stuff, you know to me or Whether I did it or not I took the leg so I Hear a lot of people say they're gangsters in a street niggas and all of this but We don't let we don't trade soldiers for suckers man, you know, I mean, so I'm not going to trade my life or my freedom For this sucker, you know, I mean because he wanted to talk in the TV Now when it when he get too close to the fire those lines in a connect Didn't get his ass whooped in barbershops and stuff like that So I'm gonna make sure that I don't do that. I don't want to get nowhere close to the street stuff and in all of that So I just play my position if we don't, you know, he don't swear over my land. We straight man, you know, we had a big Situation here people was you know, it was a time when everybody was coming man Why I never did speak back to anything that he ever said about boss talk one-on-one Everybody was like why because God man, you know, whether I love God and and there's a God for Charleston white There's a God for everybody, you know what I'm saying I look at it from that level when I even dealt with him for early on. I had my heart in the right place You know what I'm saying? So I don't never be shook by nothing because you know Man listen, man, when you're an Eagle man, you definitely don't you don't eat with with with pigeons or ducks You know what I'm saying? You don't fly. Y'all don't even fly the same way So at the end of the day, I never did see a reason to do that because I seen his kids and his family They used to come here and I never I never would do that because they never done nothing to me, bro Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I would never talk down on his family I never talked down on on this situation because I'm supposed to be bigger than that. I'm older, bro I'm gonna be honest with you and the things I've been through. I never the word of God Say no man grab a plot and look back without running into something Right, so I'm on some whole different level trying to figure this whole thing out man God been too good to me man for for everything we've been through and I swear ain't no way I supposed to even be here So I never turned my back on what God done did for me, bro And and for him, you know, and hopefully at some time it can be a change of transformation or for the better Everybody should wish to be a better person brain life. Yeah, because right now if if you sit here and you you go on different shows and And you have these bipolar moments to where you say hey, I'm with my community. I'm pushing the black agenda I'm an advocate. I'm an activist Then you have another bipolar moment another episode because you're raising me adept or whatever and you say I'm gonna put it here on DN. I sound the same. He should break whatever, you know Yeah, but I'm pissed on twisted black mama grave or whatever, you know, you know, I'm sitting What gets me the most is He looks directly in the camera and say nigga, I'm gonna send you back to jail on the line Why why would you want to send me back to do what I do to you? But you don't want to send me back to jail because you say I did a diss song about you Wow, you did what I'm saying. So yeah, you hide up under this cloth, baby boy Like you for the people I'm for the people, you know, I'm saying when these guys come to home But when even in prison like a lot of the young men want to come and hang around me Did you get your GD? Are you in school yet? You know, I will have guys that reach out to me and prison a my son in there Ask him has somebody to call and ask him Now I got him, you know, long as he ain't no bad young man that night when I say bad I mean won't listen, but I'm gonna try to get him in school I'm gonna try to show him how to take the programs the better, you know better So I ain't saying I'm better than nobody. I'm just saying the things that I'm doing for my people is better, bro Yeah, I'm not out here with this foolish man. I remember we went to some juvenile If you go back and watch the early episodes of him being on here You see me giving the kids clothes out of here Right that that had connected with me through him. Actually, we went to the juvenile together and spoke and all kind of stuff That's the way that whole thing started, but then it spiraled into something else man That famous to something else that famous to get you. I'm tell you Gucci man said that Especially if that's how you making your cash, yeah, he gets it appointed where he just say anything. Yeah, so I've never seen a video Believe it or not I never seen I never watched not one video where I heard he was talking down and all that But I never entertained it because at the end of the day, I know my truth I had no choice. So I can't he was watching them I don't know I had no choice is because everywhere I go here about bringing to me They know but they told me yeah, but they told me something I just know that I've been in places where and you you could relate to this where you Get the scrapping or whatever you mind your business You know, I'm saying you that you don't you don't never even focus on nothing else No matter you you got to have tunnel vision man when you when you got some you going toward and you going somewhere I mean you think about it That was probably at about what? 30,000 subscribers 20,000 subscribers now we had a hundred and sixty five thousand subscribe You know, we never did stop and we went in, you know, a lot of people saying man Charleston man that that was he he made that show and all that and then then you had phase-on love and you had Mike bless country one in them you had I saw he didn't eat. I'm a hustler. Yeah, so I'm gonna just every time Motivation bro. It's motivation. It really is motivating to me. I love the hustle man Anything that looks like it's gonna down for some I'm a hustle harder in this motivation And I think that's the thing that we should take in the hornest whenever somebody gives you something and and and you should turn Lemons in the lemonade You understand what I'm saying? So anytime I need to give you anything any kind of hate any get turn it into something God said to Joseph he said what y'all meant for me for evil God turn it to good man You can turn evil to good Every time we get up there and blast me Somebody else to go tune in and listen to the music and be like once you listen to the music you locked Especially if you got any affiliation with the street prison or just a struggle Yeah, if you go listen to the to the music you lot you don't even think about him no more You know at all that's out the window at all. You said man, dude. I think he's mine He know what you're doing will be doing it Yeah, you always say yeah, I think y'all we don't know when you charge it out with your name for my debt He really don't even alley hoops. So you wait man. Hey, hey, if you want to throw me Hey, get together with me and let's discuss the alley. Oh, man. That way I can dunk the ball You're right now. They look at much like I'll you did you reason why I say that because it like if I hear here He'll be big name person Yeah, oh here big name person So if you say your name everybody's gonna look you up either way go Even if you doing good doing bad something they're gonna go look at you regardless because he said your name right when everybody like they like Missed right so he said they gonna look at your goal is so I think it's a lot of movement. He know it but it's definitely it's an alley But it can be something else too cuz when you started when we were dealing with the with the gangs and all that you I was getting a lot of death threats and everything else from California. They was talking about you seen it you But at the end of the day, I was like I'm the hustler Yeah, so when I he when I seen that and I seen how California looked at him I turn around and when got Mike bless with country way them and all these Christian folks and I start flipping it that way Cuz I now want to do it this way. I'm and then I I think Mike bless I almost went to a million million views like that When I got him on the show and then phase on got on the show then Bubba dub and all these people was coming on I thought dealing with the comedian world And so I was flipping the people making them look making them look. I got these niggas. Let me make these niggas I'm a hustler. So it's just like a nigga hit the block with some work nigga. Oh, he's selling this. Oh, he cut he whippin It's why I'm not doing that. I'm gonna keep him over here with me with with quality. You see I'm Nothing and they gonna be we have some drawback So man, man, no, but we but definitely man, I just know that don't let nothing trick you out your position, bro It's you bless, bro. You man. I'm super blessed man. I Was 233 man. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, I gave about 10 years It's too much the right way. Wow. I mean, that's all guys. So now, it's not even it's not even tempting not even a question I'm a question. Yeah That's why I did some of those songs on federal guidelines and that's you know, I slipped them over the none design on it You know, so when you go back and you play this album when you play saying too much Oh, that whole going in, you know, you know, this is just that's the way I get you back That's entertainment world for me. Yeah. Yeah, and the one thing is not to get out of your element That's what people don't understand. That's the whole game. Like if I'm if I move and change my elbow I lost the game. Yeah, you can't get out of your out of your character. You know, we talk about character all the time I'd never lose. There's no way I'll get out of character. I enjoy it man. The hustle is real Listen to success For being able to be in the race Right. I'm talking about scrubbing just being able to to wake up in the morning and figure out the Yeah, yeah, I can't move and travel like I want to because of my situation But once my situation, you know, but it allows me to I got it. I get a chance to figure it out Go. Yeah, yo go. Yeah. Yo is coming home here pretty soon They say at the top of the year like are you guys gonna link or are you are you link with go? Yeah, yo I would 100% sure that we gonna link really. Yeah, man You know the only way that that we wouldn't is we just had different agendas. Yeah, you know That's it, you know cuz at the end of the day we both artists But we have to be able to mesh on a personal level, but I can't see why we wouldn't that's nephew. The nigga He know the internet game He knows the game man, so I mean I actually you know, like I said last time I know Bob Supreme came on He was wearing the go. Yeah, yo shirt and it was nice to like to see somebody was communicating with him And then I had my boy Mike fresh Mike fresh say man He made him have words on the show and it was you go back watch the episode I was like he was like man, we were cool But this man when I got through the interview I was like nigga, you better put some money on a nigga books The next time they came back to the show he said he man I thought about man I went put money on his books and wrote them in there I said man, that's what this about because at the end of the day, man You could it ain't nothing too big none too hard for God, bro, right? Let that go I say I'm in prison and you didn't visit me man. You got to visit him. You knew him. Yeah, you know, I'm saying So how did you make it through them tough time them nights, man? And then them times when you when you just felt like you couldn't go no further And probably early on yeah, man more so early on but I'll be honest with you my last 18 my last three years of prison was the hardest really yeah, because I lost everything Well, you know everything really you name it. I lost the relationship. I didn't lose my children Physically like that, but the relationship with him, you know stuff like that, you know so I can come on all the podcast I want and smile and cheese and all of that but Some of those things, you know, hard to repair if they could be repaired, you know what I mean? So To ask you a question on how I got through it God, you know, I was laser focused though. I'm institutionalized now, you know So I was laser focused, you know every day was just about getting through the day getting to you know to the next one So I think I just kind of accepted that was my world right then And and I could see just to be the light and I'm like laser focus on that light anybody getting that light I'm getting you out that lane any of you in my way. Hey, watch out. I can't see my life You know, so come to that food since watch out. I can't see my life. Yeah, so, you know, you know what I'm talking about So they gotta skate through it too cuz they being that people think just cause you get locked up that that It's criminals in here and they trying to come up with different They try to come up with things to break the codes in there If you trying to stir clear the trouble in there and I tell people all the time if a person say, oh man, uh Man you niggas say when he go to jail and in it. No, he don't you can watch these niggas activity They don't say yeah, these niggas is in that writing good letters home, right? You know, but if he do get say No, I can't stand here and say no, I got say so I know Okay, I had a drink of smoke since that I was baptized in the bathtub You know what I'm saying? So what I'm telling you is the other niggas that was in there around me. That was right Right, then they were kicking. Yeah, look at everything. You know niggas were getting everything in there in the facility So what I'm saying is sometimes niggas don't date some niggas train like you say but in there's a and if they do decide That's a good thing. Even if they make the gesture Hey, but I tell you what though, you know, like I do the ones that do get saved and they walk in that walk in prison And then it's a certain respect that we give you But the ones that's faking when the moment that you get out your lane We gon blitz. Yeah, you gonna get checked. You gon get checked or blitz, or blitz. You know how I ever go because you're faking That's right. I want to go back to the album though Say cheese man, like we talked about that a little bit the last time he was here I think I even you know showed it a little bit, but that was early on That's one of the first records from from the project like and in solo lucha is my guy like out of all everybody on the whole thing No shame in solo lucha. They're my guys But solo lucha is like this nigga can call me right now and I'm gonna say yeah, whatever you need me That's just how I am with him. You know what I mean? He got a good heart You know what I'm saying and he'd be trying to help people you trying to help being give information good game He's trying. You know what I mean? Yeah Men is dad cool. That's hard. Yeah real talk, you know, I mean he really just like a good genuine young man See like to me, you know, so how did y'all come up with the name and what was that all the whole concept? That was him. He's a genius. That was him He said that to me and and now and I argued him for the track and then once I got it You know what he told me He told me say man everywhere. I go they telling me man I'm one of the hardest of my heart is that he said but then they said but black but black So he said my family get a chance to kick your ass on the track. That's you. You know what I told you What did you don't take this ass with me personally? You know, we went at it man We he helped me out, you know just make sure that I did the best me on the song Wow You dig so we got that video out. That's that video hard. You was in that drop top. Yeah, that was a cutlass Wasn't it? I can't I don't think that was Easy even though you can't mess with me look easy nigga. Don't make me put a Chevelle out nigga Don't do it. It better be right. Oh, is it right? He got work. Is it right? He got work In the cut cut down couple of I ain't worried about that. I'm talking about that damn cutlass I'm you they always tell me like did you see the seats in the color? I see them I'm ready, but I do something a little different, you know, I appeal to your cameraman type like my stuff is about that money Like it's got if something happened with me the kids go sell it He's gonna go go quick. They're gonna match the numbers and everything in your nigga. Like, oh, yeah, give him what he won't Yeah, so how was it the energy was right you was driving that thing too. I said look at the nigga driving at that Yeah, well, you know what I'll tell you what, you know my I'm really kind of laid back. Yeah, I mean so He was trying to come on man. Oh gee bounce a little I'm like listen I try to do a little something you feel me but I you know, I that's really not my thing I said it only matched the words that's coming out my mouth for me to be too energetic, you know, I mean So I'm just kind of laid back, but he's his energy is infectious him and Little running. Yeah, yeah, we drop it Monday. I can't wait and I'm kind of I'm really upset a little bit because I felt Like when the project came we should at least have five that was ready Yeah, well, we got three they can't four in the can right now They wanted to give her like a money some time I get it I get it because I Agree with you me and bun talked about I said bun go But when you watch the interview, he's I say how many video do you think a person should come out with it? Would he say every song should have a video? Oh, definitely He's saying this day and time with the way it is right now every song man, and I agree I said that's exactly what I tell me ask you this How much space in between? Do you think you should drop one video to the next? That's that's it That's something that you have to do. It's got to be something you feel Okay, so whatever you feel on the project you lay out then I you it's a chemistry It's like anything else you do I deal with electronics certain things have a chemistry and that chemistry that bum between you and that music and the way you lay it out come from you Okay, does that make sense? Yeah, I understand. I just couldn't put my finger cuz you know Yeah, you know because you know what you put where and how you put the puzzle together Right, right. So ain't nobody else gonna be able to do that like you. Yeah, no recollab no I just don't believe nobody else could ever set it up and stage it now You can have people to come in with a mastermind concept right where y'all talk about it But ultimately that decision boils down to you what truthfully I took a backseat. See that's a problem with that What I understand Because I'm one of the hardest things for us to admit when we've been in prison a long time is that we don't know Right, yeah, that's how I was a man Especially when you you don't want to use usually knowing yeah people look to you for the answer Yeah, and and I really want to succeed because I want to level up and start to bring my artists through that's that's my whole goal You know do my movies and do the documentary. Yeah to prepare the movie And so I just I just want to put my best foot forward and if I'm dealing with people like drew or people like Whomever he points. Yeah point me to you. Yeah, you know I'm saying I have to go with they know because mastermind concept Yeah, yeah, I don't it's the mastermind concept. That's why I took a backseat this time Did you ever just say it is and then because all y'all together, but That's how you learn to walk falling right, you know You yeah, that's how I don't want to you can cry But by the time you stand up and you doing it and you can set cuz I Forsee a lot of work from you, right meaning project at the project I'm looking for something every quarter to be honest with you something quarterly and I ain't gonna let you down I'm just being real because that's the type of temperature we in I believe I ain't seeing nobody that's making music to send back They it's something always going on you can't do that no more and that's the That's because it's so much. It's over congested with Different music different people coming out with different projects You can get lost in the sauce the one thing I do look at like the city and all the people that I I'm friends with a lot of people, but what I look at is When I look at certain artists they I think they put the people on the back burner too long Right because when I I'm from the old school, so I'm used to seeing okay. You do a project I'm gonna let you do something and we gonna do it together. I'm gonna jump on that old you you got to have trust to do that I don't think they have a trust that they used to have and in the connection with these record labels They used to have made them do that more because they could rely on the record label We got to have some stomp down dudes out here that feel comfortable in their own skin That'll let other people come on so you can make that movement happen. Does that make sense? But they don't want they want to hold the lights everybody for self. Yeah, I'm alright Man, I just told somebody I just had this conversation yesterday. I say man Guy I can say what they want to about me But go back to the beginning when I was doing the hustler go broke volumes. I was bringing in nobodies Just guys that had talent because when you do what you do on the track when it's my turn I'm gonna do what I do you can send me the verse first or I can send you my it don't matter I'm gonna do me and I'm gonna eat on every track like I did on that That's hard and you think about it when you go back to like Jay Prince. They were selfless, bro They were putting people in position And they was moving out the way they letting people be great in their own element Geez money and real talk But then I'm talking not only him but even mouse opinion would say they got it They're blueprint from Jay Prince and then a bird man, of course did the same thing and they all put people in They didn't they didn't shy away from giving people a front row seat when it came their time And they didn't wait long like these dudes doing now They was putting Pete projects out and that consistency and that unity Form something that we can we'll never stop talking about till we leave this earth, right? Am I right? We still talk about you're gonna talk about it because they didn't hold back on these Man So man like like which one what song sticks out for you on the album like what which one did you really like you think? That one. Yeah the one with no shame problems. Well, you know if I had to pick like a favorite. Yeah, but that's the one, right? Yeah, because bang bang Bang bang went hard Got some type of you know, this is different Lot of people don't know man. I was a man. A lot of this was done in prison. No, that's real You know, I miss it because the quality is so good. They think in you know, I was out already I mean I put this together by my thinking was right I was right there sitting on top row reading glasses on my nose so I could see the page in the dark Try to figure it out. Hey, young niggas passing me by like I'm trying to round like I'm fire So long story short but to answer your question, I really think the one that's going on pop is to cook my way Cook. Oh, you like that one. Yeah feature in love Jess Laurent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and and the video will be out Monday So tune in to check that out but the way that these young guy like young guys like him and Solo luchy the way they just attacked the beat and don't let it breathe. Yeah, it's just you know, it's amazing to me And they don't write No, I know that. Yeah, but guess what I tell them anytime But you're no writing Good ass against this piece of paper that I'm fitting right on Any day, you know, I mean we're gonna make we're gonna make sprites going down It's going down. Well man like like when you think about just just The video you just put out what's the name of that song for the video you put out today or yesterday, what? You talking about the welcome home. Yeah, I see you got show you got show on me Cook my way cook my way. I've seen that. Okay. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, that's the one already out It's out not a video ain't had the full video. I'm not the full video Well, that's just the promo. I see you trying to be a school teacher nigga. Yeah We just hey, that's the one that you may man That's when you know what y'all some go on these interviews you say how big a dummy I was because he's telling everybody that I put out A song car cooked my way to the top and I was selling drugs and then that's what made the agents come get me Boss fake news. Wow when I got when I got picked up boss I'm gonna tell you somebody told nobody on now other interview and you do your homework I had been out the dope game for 13 months. Okay done. I Just got caught up in somebody. Yeah, I was trying to sign an artist man. Shout out to that I was trying to sign it do what same when he say the told on me. He did and that's my partner shout out to that For not even going crazy when Charleston attacked him. You did I'm saying but It's a lot that I want to say. I just don't say no and I think Just let your work lead the way. Yeah. Yeah, you know I'm saying let your work lead the way Is he just he just he just make it up as you go. Yeah Yeah, yeah, but I like I said that the main thing is to be honest with you man. There's so much more What happened in the garden when they just focused on the one thing the one tree There's one fruit that they shouldn't have focused on then they took him off the game Right, so you there's so much talent in you right that you can't do that because there's so many people that's Depending on you and there's so many people that want to see you in So you really can't really get caught up on nothing nothing that Don't really it ain't gonna make a break you. You know I'm saying there's so much bigger stuff going on with twisted black man I'm I promise you and I know that so I'm right I'm wait I like I told you when you came on the first interview I can't wait to see you keep going because like I said, I know already with consistency It's just gonna make you think faster get better the hustle everything on go You know what I'm saying and I didn't know I did gonna call me. That's my nigga, man Then you got it. Don't what Never so much game before I put the album out. I was like so every 300 man every time like I already do a song like okay Did you check out some of his music, of course I think y'all I think you guys got a collab y'all gotta come together do some idea one with him when Me and him and look is it on which product is on his project. I can't wait No, I think and I want to say he told me okay, but I don't think we both told nobody else So I might have to cut this part out. I have to ask it first. Yeah He told me hey, don't take no breaks. Oh, that's a no music. I love him, bro Yeah, don't take no breaks don't hold no music. So I got like four videos in the can Yeah, that's right. He's ready to drop like you say once we you know, yeah, once we feel like one sliding down The other one coming out. That's all it man. Like like and and what how's your son? He's doing good. I've seen him in the video. It's like him in the boxing gym right now But not literally I'm just saying far as what is with his pen he getting that getting ready because he Performing on the versus 17, okay, okay LV He else but yeah, he's gonna do his thing. So, you know, I'm excited for him. Yeah, cuz he you know, he felt like he ready You know, I mean sometimes we'll hit heads on What's good and and what's not yeah natural. Yeah, you know in the day I'm a professional Wow, and he's a What do you call you the newer the younger generation? They know what they know They they you can't tell them much. Oh, no, so I just tell them I say here's the deal buddy versus you and I Going back and forth about it getting into these heated discussions about what's good and what's not. Mm-hmm Just do it. Yeah, it works. Then you were right if it don't then I'll be still sitting right here telling you what I think You can't live with me, but now home, you know, I mean do what you want to do. Let's get it D&D Best show egg. So man Dope that one gave me his his his hook gave me a David Banner vibe That's the that's the one that I was saying gave me a David Banner. I'm just telling you what I be here They better ain't been doing a lot like that, but I'm just going back to what cuz everything listen, man Well, he please I keep going back to the word, but there's nothing new under the sun, bro You better say I've been trying to people this talent is just it's evolving all day long Yeah Once Jane brownies were way back in the gap and now if you look back they fly and they get back flat You know, look, I'm in I'm in plug here. Shout out to my man. It's like shout out. Yeah, you know all the way for you Up to the shoes The snake and Gator shoes Yeah, yeah, so everything like you say it just makes a big circle man. Yeah, so how was it doing that song? Man again People coming together and wanted me to have the best project I could have and and XO is real talented his whole little little gang Best show in town. They from out here. Okay, and Hey, hey, they came with hooks and turn me on the no shame turn me on the Levi Really leave that yeah, he been over here leave our party. So yeah dope dude, too That's what the song is right. Do not disturb is me telling people just leave me alone Let me make it let me stay in his square square nigga Lane and get some money man in this rap They don't disturb the other character. Wow Wrapping on the phone. We'll see it. No, you know, he don't So I had to get a little sick on there. He turned his voice into an instrument, you know So he's impeccable. So that one can't in this and it's got that groove to it You know, I mean, I think I kind of put a gumbo together. Okay, okay And I think anybody listen to it make a fine something like you know Oh, yeah, man Like I said the beats and the production was on the whole another level. I love that Like who was the who how many producers did you work with? I used to feel man. I don't even know all of them. I know I Know a star young star. I know My main man What's his name? I'm boss, but I would say boss Baller, okay ball on the beat so fly productions man People were just giving me a lot of trials mission I want to get mr. Leon there for sure. We don't do a good work before yes, sir So I'm hooking up with him tomorrow. That's my boy. You know that I'm still working man That's my guy right there. He's gonna give you some too. Yeah for sure. So It came out good Fuck you mean I meant that. Yeah. Yeah, you compare you did a verse on there where you said something about Mode three versus who you would mode three or versus trap. What made you do that? Well, cuz I was in prison I know and I thought that's what you don't reflect them back. Yeah. And so when I was in prison you were here Guys talk about mode three then guys talk about trapping and so my thing was I'm fucking with both You know, I'm in here with y'all partners right now and we'll get out there and push this line together That's real if we have to yeah, you can get bad. Yeah, so my thing was a I'm here with Yo and D low from the cliff. So I'm fucking with both. I'm not picking the side Yeah, I'm not gonna press me into picking the side on some fool and no reason to pick us up Whatever happened when I wasn't here man, I want, you know, I just rather see everybody, you know, get some money Yeah, I was looking at I had something about without me and how deep the message seemed to me wait till you see the video Yeah, it's done. Is it what that's hard Benji films. That's all man. The ones that's filming us while you filming me Yeah shot and going in. I went back to jail on the video Oh, it's showing the actual footage of me coming out of prison, too Nobody's seen that. Wow showing the actual footage of me coming out of prison the first time and I did the song from adjust I'm getting interrogated by Drew. Oh, yeah, that's hard. It's hard, bro You said something on there about Your son you left your son, you know, you always refer to son and your mom Yeah, and just that that touch home for me because I know what it is to leave your child and then you know Not for that long But still just to leave them at all and then have to come back and and you see your kid like like that And then you know what all you had to face out here going through all those rough times Yeah, you know and you spoke well to it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I know you hear you Yeah, that's therapy man. You know what I'm saying, but it's hard though boss. It's hard knowing I Just keep it buck. It's hard knowing that you fell. Yeah. Yeah, I've been there But it's hard, you know, but as a man, we have to accept that. Yeah, it's nothing I can do to change I can't get out here and play daddy Because I'm your father and y'all are grown. We're not gonna play catching the yard We can't catch up with the great baby. Can't you better say that? Yeah, I told you that last time you better So that's the good part about it that you got to grant your grandson, man. And and I'm so Happy about that. I think about that. I pray about that. Yeah, that's what I'm really I didn't know but the one because I have to on the picture with you. Yeah, I go through your Instagram Yeah, yeah, and I have to the research. Yeah. Yeah, so I've seen him visiting you and you know, I mean, right, right, right So yeah, two grand babies. Wow Both here. No, no, no, I got my oldest daughter Chelsea. That's all her son. Yeah And she can't stand me half the time because she looked just like me really he looked just like me So you might want to come on around Chelsea and stop playing cuz oh she made what do she she just like me That's all my daughter just like me my oldest dog. It's still my baby You know, yeah, I mean you can't get away from that man You said something in that song also without me you said that these niggas got a 17 year. He had started like that. Yeah they did 17 years And then what gets me And you stop me if I get to talk it to my baby make it be Boss a trick you in to get Good Man I had somebody else to tell me that we did a recent man You know, they don't know what they walk it into when you get in there man You feel like it's just y'all just kicking it in It's just just I think you know the whole street thing the whole we've been through it. Yeah Yeah, you connect with the people the energy. Yeah talk a lot of them you go do interviews and it's cool And they're cordial and they're professional, but And they never been through the yeah, you just don't you don't really let your guard down like that But I think it like I said mine is more of my look at this in my ministry because that's who I'm sent to yeah That's why I just love Chicago Larry Hoover's daddy been locked up for 50 years That was why I went to do the interview was because his birthday he turned 50 But he never been outside the the walls with his daddy so his mom was pregnant With him when his daddy went to prison and he turned 50 and I went to celebrate it with him But it was bittersweet because a dad been gone for 50 years, right? So this is what I do, bro Now we can go fight it fight another country's war, but you won't let the man come home I hear 50 and repeat any on all positivity. Come on man free Larry Hoover free Larry Hoover, man And and he and he not only is he in prison, but he's on maximum security So he and he's 73 years old give you another second chance and all that For real man, that's just that's just cap man. Let's get them what then what they wouldn't make some let him get a second chance See and do prisoners swaps all day long if it benefits this country But but prisoners I'm talking about you gave back you let one of the countries I forget which one it was I mean he was the arms the biggest arms dealer ever. Yeah for them Russia Russia matter of fact But you mean to tell me you won't get this man a second chance, man for making a bad bad decision Yeah, when he was young 20 something years old a kid Like I said he Larry turn to happy birthday getting Larry, you know Like I said, it just sad because it was bittersweet that interview with tough day for yesterday I was I could have been present. Oh, yeah, the problem though, and you know, you said it He doing a positivity. They don't want to see that. Yeah Young man again. You sure that's the play When I keep doing these interviews and slap it down the foolishness and talking about positivity I know they come that's it. I'm on federal parole But guess what I didn't insulate it myself with some powerful people That's what they keep in the big eye on me keeping the cameras on me So they know I ain't doing no bullshit. So when they come for the foolishness, but then, you know You got some people to study got some bosses. That's right some Moses and some other, you know It's just working. That's real and they can do whatever they want to do unless you got the light on That's it. That's that was my mistake in the beginning. Yeah, I'm with the trial Yeah, a new Black Panther party want to come in all of that I told him not to because the judge told me I'm gonna hurt nobody but me That was a mistake because I don't believe they could have tricked me up like that You feel me if I would have let them people come that's right. What system? Yeah, yeah, you need and you and definitely definitely that but I Nothing by chance on mistake, bro Like it was some people that you helped in behind those walls that would never have got that help I know cuz I ran into some of right so that you have to a lot of people Yeah, there's like Larry Hoover helped a lot of people be talking about that. That's what maybe think about it Sending them home. They come home with stories. You know what I mean? You sent a lot of brothers home with stories Yeah, you sent a lot of brothers home that was telling people. Hey, if it hadn't been him I made that life is out of prison. Life is life is outside. I'm telling them. I'm that song is for them. That's yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a bad boy. Hey, you know too. Hey, man. Hey, I've been listening to him a lot lately to do dope man of Super dope that whole little outlining when I think of him down there, man Like I said, it's just I like to pull people together when I look at Greg Street to all the boys down in Atlanta right now Whether it be be high all them boys man all them down there with that inner circle man Even people can like I got people down there that I lock in with you know what I'm saying and and and it's just some dope Don't people to read the shunt man. It's some dope people down there I got to get down there too because it's been probably about three or four months. I'm gonna go back All right, I like to go so I'm gonna go down there and interview some folks I gotta go show some love Yeah, I got to man got to because those guys down there, you know A lot of them been on this platform from quick trip shout out the quick trip It's a bunch of them bro like like these DJs man It's a bunch of them that rock with boss talk man because of the way I always go Houston Gonna do it got to cuz I got to get our people to understand. We got a outlet, you know what I'm saying We got someone we can we can we can voice our opinion and from our own perspective, you know, I'm saying nothing No I Man, it's a beautiful thing man. Hey, man, I just want to tell you man that you know, you you're doing a great job You know keep doing you keep doing the best you can man to stay focused. I am keep keep working I am you know what I'm saying. I think that's what I think that's where it's sad, bro What um, what what what if you need anything for me, you know to call me, you know, I will Early in the morning I'll be up To but don't call me in the morning. I call you sometimes There you go Yeah Say man, I'm a fool with it man Did you like the interview last time when I put them man? I killed that interview I'll play with it. I'll play game with the interview, but listen, I'm taking and I'm not saying it's just because I'm sitting here, man You good at your job. I was having fun. Good at your job. Hey, you didn't see it coming like that though Did you know what we were doing? It was all brand new for me. Yeah You like what the hell all these cameras. I'm like am I supposed to be turned to this? My scar Yeah, you know We don't have a good time every time I we got to get cheap on here Yeah, so if we want to line some out, you know to sit down and talk about the verses to promote a little bit more We can do that. Um, just to let the people know what is going down. Yeah about to go down November the 17th Yeah, I'll be first 200 ladies to get in free. Whoo. Is we bringing OTB fazlain. He just left here Yeah Yeah, we working yeah OTB fazlain Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom. That's my boy little Ronnie little Ronnie chief Man me Hermes the guy Spanish artists. Okay making noise out of Fort Worth. Okay YTV. Okay, my son Yeah, boss Bugatti. That's all I got a sleeper. That's coming out of Fort Worth, too trap money poochie You're gonna see a EP coming from him and I he's one of them was is Talking that shit. Wow Let me let me you cause you you really you come through leading it instruction it to say man, let's get our people together Shit, I love it Because you know why cuz I'm for the people you can tell I'm for the people you don't hear these conversations in these interviews So I know it's hard. Yeah, you got this clown up here talking about this his city and all that man Fuck out of here It's my ship People man, that's all man, man, three niggas need help man listen to get out of the street Man, but people don't know by people love you how crazy that you even being here last time and just how do people react to you, bro They love you, bro. Not just in Fort Worth either don't play He for love you bro. I'm tough mess the street should go all the way around the world I pull up anyway. I said I'm you know And I won't I'll pull up in danger and be cool, but mistress real street guys real guys Man, we love all that's it. You know, I mean didn't they see me then graduated from being in the streets To try to do some positive help my people many rock with me man keep doing keep everything you got going going man I am I love you, bro. I appreciate appreciate you every time you come ready never cease to amaze me man I say man check it man. It's been another hold on hold on hold on hold on because you say you should moves Okay, the first movie you shoot and I'm gonna be on there. I'm gonna get on the internet Okay, I'll be shooting it, you know We're shooting scenes of it now. Okay, man stay on the lookout for that cuz I wrote a book while I was in there It's called bought sense. Okay. That's the thing. Yeah, so I might I might the cash you baby. Can you act? Yeah, I got you I got make sure it's a mean row. I gotta play mean row I was trying to make sure I didn't see nothing. I think I I think I knocked you out. I got too good Then I think I got everything I need. Oh, yeah, definitely. I shook you down. Take it man It's been another great segment of boss talk 101 what a boss is talk