 Well, hello, what's up? What's going on? I Feel like the news finally dried up this this this has happened at CES the last several years even during the COVID stuff Avalanche of stuff on Monday too much to fit in one show Big press events Massive announcements Tuesday is filled to the brim as well. You're like, how can I possibly get through this? Wednesday starts to feel like okay, there's no more big massive press announcements But then you slowly like oh wait I missed that and there was that cool thing and here's another thing and it starts to build up Thursday You finally say all right. There's no more new stuff but there's a few things we want to get to and then Friday is like everything just evaporated and and Companies are tired of announcing things journalists are tired of writing things you start to get everybody's like here's a look at this year's CES like summary stuff So, yeah Yeah, I see a lot of people Publishing stories that we talked about earlier in the week because they're catching up on those stories the way we're catching up on Other stories because everybody everybody can't do everything right like TechCrunch is just reporting the hurts selling EVs so Yeah, it's a Heck of a time heck of a time. How you doing tectonic? How's the UK? Hope it's not as cold as it usually is but it probably is hey Samuel. Hey Clinton. Good to see a Clinton Zoe and Ryan, I hope Minneapolis is also Super unnaturally warm. I know it's probably not Alright, I just want to do Today's show and then sleep Lamar was just asking me on text. He's like was it was it good was it worth it? I Do feel like it was worth it to go to CES Especially if we're able to like it's time to be real Especially if we're able to cover it properly next year if things get back to normal and all that Then yeah, I think it might be be really okay No, Samuel, I didn't eat any good food Actually, that's not true. I did eat very good food on Thursday or wait what day is it on Wednesday night? Thanks to Katie data But most here here's my food at CES in the morning Eat something that I had bought in advance. So I didn't have to leave the room while I worked on prep So I had a couple of croissants a thing of Cheerios some instant coffee like mixed coffee That was my breakfast. I bought some bananas too. So it's bananas then lunch most days was run downstairs because there was a The central hall broadcast Sweet is what I was in in the middle of the central hall of the Las Vegas Convention Center and That block has bathrooms Convenient maybe not lovely but convenient to be super close to the bathrooms That has bathrooms and it has two restaurants downstairs. So there was a quiz nose and a barbecue place So quiz nose was the most affordable option. I would run downstairs grab a turkey sandwich and usually a coffee and then that would be my lunch and Then dinners during the press events were whatever free food. They were given out at the press events So CES unveiled showstoppers digital experience Digital experience was probably my favorite. They all had decent food, but digital experience was probably my favorite because they had chefs making fresh hot pasta for you, I mean Fresh hot pasta. They're sort of reheating the pasta that was already boiled and made but it was made pretty recently So it's pretty fresh, you know, and they heat it up in a pan with some garlic and stuff. That was really good So those are my meals until Wednesday when there was no press event And I was able to hook up with KT data and he took me to Island style Which is an off-the-strip little family restaurant The the guys Hawaiian the woman is Korean So the menu is Hawaiian and Korean two of my favorites. So I had spambasubi and dendron jigae and It was really good. That was the best meal I had yesterday I Had dinner at the airport because I had an evening flight with Shannon Shannon was flying around flying out around the same time as me so we we grabbed a little pizza at the airport and Yeah, I had no bacon. So we can you imagine This is the reason we need more patrons so I can afford bacon next time. No Yeah, I never I never went anywhere for breakfast I just I just ate breakfast in my room and I did not encounter. Oh wait, hold on hold on There might have been some bacon wrapped chicken in one of the press things so maybe there was some bacon Maybe there was some bacon in there They had so did they have some Gibson? Actually, I just went for the dendron jigae and I don't remember that jajangmyeon. They had a lot of Chinese stuff jajangmyeon jampong Palo, but I don't remember whether they had some Gibson over Thank you Adam 12. It's good to be back home Safe and sound. I hope you all got a chance to look at the tick tock and the Instagrams and and all of that I had a lot of fun doing shorts Being around all those influencers, you know, like Shannon and Trish inspired me to do more of that stuff and What was it Someone asked me to do something here when I got back. I Can't remember what it was. It was RWDash who asked me. I'll just have to go look at the comments. I'm sure I can find it Because he said thank you Why don't they show you the comments? So weird. Anyway, oh, maybe it was on Instagram and I said, yeah, I'll do that when I get back. It's Everything, you know, they say, you know, the old adage what happens at Vegas stays in Vegas, which isn't at all true But Sometimes what you do in Vegas you can't remember after you leave. All right, there it is. Thank you More on your setup audio hijack Audio hijack. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right Yeah, I'll do that. I'll do a video on that. I'm not gonna do it right now Yeah, I'll do I'll do a little video on the on the laptop setup That's why I couldn't remember it because it wasn't I was like it wasn't something I had to be home for What could it have been? That's what it was. It was, you know, I use audio hijack for this and this is how we record and this is It honestly, it would be better to have Joe do that because he does more of the stuff than I do these days Ryan says just watch the unpacking video Makes me miss doing events like that. I should do that when I go to VA in March and NC two weeks later, Virginia, North Carolina Hey beatmaster, I won't see any of them because I don't use tiktok only reels Well, okay Then you won't see them You will see the reels then and the shorts because you're on YouTube right now Jason Howell, what are you doing in there? Says hey can't stick around but welcome home Tom look like you had a solid CES trip from the Socials. Yes. Yes, I did good to see you my friend. Thanks for dropping in I hope you're still around to hear me say that I Killbot 404 how does home feel after CES? Welcome. It feels very welcome feels good feels comfy feels Soft and fluffy and all the things that make you feel better I'm very much looking forward to finishing today's show so that I can just be done for a weekend because you know We had you know, we had a holiday break the holiday break was a little busy as it is for a lot of people for me And then we you know, we did a week of shows I had a Saturday and then boom off to Vegas on Sunday, right? So it was a travel day early. I left early was there pretty much all day and Then was going hard CES for me is Hard work and I don't say for me to meet it's not hard work for other people's hard work for most people who are there But yeah, the way I do it is not I Do get the sense sometimes that the people don't quite understand what I'm doing because they don't see me anywhere I don't go to appointments. I don't have meetings. I just I just hole up in my room in the morning and I try to write and Wade through the thousands and thousands of things being announced But it's good to be there because you can see stuff and I have a better idea of the kind of stuff I'd want to do. What did you think of the walk-through videos the sort of silent walk-through videos that I did? I think they could be improved, but did you like the concept there? I'm curious about that. I got some good feedback when I first posted them But I was thinking about doing more more of that kind of thing Maybe even on the on the main show floor not just at the press events. That was kind of a an experiment Seeing the new Wi-Fi 7 devices gives me buyer's remorse for my Wi-Fi 6e. Well, yeah, I get that man I always try to tell myself like but I don't have a ton of Wi-Fi 7 devices So if I got a Wi-Fi 7 router, I'd have to replace all my devices. So I'm good for a while. Oh Samuel wants to know how far the Best Buy was from from CES where I grabbed the splitter. Uh, I mean I don't know how far in miles, but it took me 10 minutes by Uber to get there It took me longer to get back because I had to wait for a car to agree to come pick me up and take me back to the strip Adam says he knows how it used to be the same when he covered Toy Fair in New York had to come back after three days Days and dive into the work of coverage. Yeah, totally All right, good. It seems like enough of you liked the walk-throughs You missed them. I don't pay enough attention to YouTube. I did those sub to the IG account in the wake of CES Okay, cool. Awesome. Well, a we should probably cross-post those to multiple places and be They're still there at the YouTube You you it's not like they went away so you can go check them out St. Clair says I haven't got to see them yet, but I generally like those I'm among the media who couldn't make it here this year will be nice to see some of what I missed Yeah, I figure it gives gives people a good overview of that kind of thing. I like that too Thank you Dica 30 so far so good knock on wood Let's see What you can just dive into anyway, yeah, you do you Ryan whatever you need to whatever you need to do and Yeah, we can certainly there's always Back of me up we can certainly cross post That kind of stuff. Is there anything of those of you who did see it? Thanks, Ryan Is there any anything that you're like I I would like more of this or it'd be cool if you did something different You know, I was wondering if my pace of walking was good I was just sort of going by instinct of like I'm not going to spend too long on any one thing But I want to give you enough of a sense where you can look at something and identify. I'm not whipping by so fast You can't tell what's there And the other thing is the longer you stand there the and then you probably heard this those of you watched it The more people are like hey, can I talk to you about my thing? Yeah, and if the pace that's true I could err on the slow side because you can always speed up the video. That's a really good point be master Yeah, and I don't we're we're also, you know, just experimenting with the mix of having a little background sound in there So it's not just the the sound of the hall But not having it so loud that you can't hear the natural sound because one thing while I was recording it I was hearing the snatches of conversation as I was walking by I was like those to me are almost the most interesting thing You know hearing hearing the little snatches of questions or explanations or comments I thought that was just as a fly on the wall kind of fascinating to Yeah, that's a good point Zoe. We can't cross post more than 10 minutes on tiktok. So we can cross post to Instagram For the longer stuff maybe But we'd have to cut it down or do it in parts. I guess we could do it in parts part one part two part three I've seen people do that before Those are fun. I I definitely had the idea because I got over to the Venetian to haul G and the Eureka Park set up there and I Was I was thinking like oh, I could do this. It's bigger than those showstoppers floors It would be a longer video or it would have to be broken into parts, but it's small enough scale I don't know if you did a walkthrough of the central hall whether you'd really get it. It's possible David says I'm watching ace to tech live on YouTube on the TV Which chat are you reading replying to twitch both? I see him both. I see the twitch chat and the YouTube chat both and the discord Because I was paying attention to discord. Hi, David You look comfy But yeah, I I think I Think I want to do something in that Eureka Park area because that's where all the startups are that's where all the international companies are and I knew they had it organized by country, but it's like very visibly organized by country That was one thing I didn't realize until I was actually there like there's a big sign that says, you know the French Pavilion and the Netherlands area and the Swiss area So I think it would be fun to I was trying to think of some kind of like Epcot of tech Kind of situation over there, too. And maybe this is for Eureka Park more than anything I had the idea of what if we Maybe you'd have to carry a sign that says it like we are only stopping at each booth for 15 seconds If you want to pass a message say it fast So people get the idea of like we're not stopping but here's your chance. You can make make a quick pitch I don't know. That's probably silly 15 seconds is not much to do anything Tech cop. I like it. I like the ep tech Lot of interesting things and a lot of things that are not interesting. That's that's the jive, right? There's some things that you're like I don't know about that one. I Don't know. I mean and maybe if we just had a different because I use the GoPro the first day And it was way too shaky. I just didn't have the right equipment to stabilize it You need a gimbal for that But if I had a DJI Osmo I could see going through the central hall then because it can it can capture You know big vistas like that because man that SK booth in the central hall was crazy That's I did post that on Instagram It was like it was a an amusement park. I have no idea what they were You know what they were promoting. I don't know if they did they probably did but I certainly didn't But there is it was like a train in their booth That was old-school. See yes right there. Let me tell you Ooh an LED badge St. Clair. That's that's interesting Limited time for a message scrolling on it. I mean professor or two. That's what I was thinking It's it's your elevator pitch, but an elevator usually takes more than 15 seconds So I don't know. Maybe I'd have to expand it to 30 that then then it goes too slow. Oh That's good tip. Thanks, Seng. I'll pass that along to Roger and Joe Maybe we can go through and and do a another pass on that Samuel that's the question everybody always asks what product did you find most interesting and I always have the hardest time answering that partly because I Don't remember all the products. It's it's it just passes through my brain But also it's really it's really hard. It's really hard to choose because they're so different. I Think the rabbit R1 would be my best of CES and And it's so unproven that that maybe is a bad choice, but it It was Innovative and it got people really excited and it's full of potential For some reason it keeps reminding me of the sling box The first year the sling box was at CES a lot of people were like is that gonna work? Why do you need it and Granted sling box isn't still around but it was Fairly big, you know for several years So I I think the rabbit R1 and if you don't know what the rabbit R1 is it's about half the size of a phone It's got a touchscreen and a camera and an LTE sim card slot and a little scroll wheel but it's really meant to be operated by voice and You have to log in on their web portal With your accounts. So you have a cloud version of things. So there's a there's a trust issue in there for sure But you log in and if you log into like say Spotify, you can then tell it like Things to do on Spotify and it can actually do them because it's got a large language model They call a large action model, but it it has been trained Not on all of the world's knowledge to try to spit back anything it has been trained to use apps so it's very good at knowing what a settings menu looks like and and How to read menus and how to figure out how that stuff works I think that's that's pretty fascinating as a concept and it's a shipping product So it's a fascinating concept that isn't vaporware And maybe it's not good for anything, but we're going to find out and I feel like that's that's exciting And that's what CES is about. So I think that's my that's my pick St. Clair, uh, you're with me man, uh, it's difficult to pick just one looking through press releases And there are a bunch of interesting things Yeah, that's why they tend to when you see those best of CES list a lot of times They do them by category because it makes it easier to be like, okay Well, of the laptops, this was my favorite and of the tv's this was my favorite because yeah, I I can I can definitely get The LG tv or tv the LG laptop that has the android Uh tablet as its screen And then you can remove that and use it as an android tablet if that had continuity Where it could go from the windows side to the other that'd be great But the fact that you can continue to use the laptop even without the screen attached just by attaching a monitor I was fascinated by that. It's probably entirely impractical Uh, but I really like that Uh, did you see any products that didn't include AI in the design and description? Yes The I did Didn't I Pretty sure I did Oh, yeah, the in and out flip the Samsung uh Demonstration of a foldable Basically a demonstration of a hinge that can go both ways So it's it's like the flip, right? Where's my pixel fold that's over there in the back? It it can fold uh, it's it's like the flip the Samsung galaxy flip, right? So you got the screen on the inside and fold it flat But you can also fold it this way And then you got the screen on the outside and then you use it as a cover screen Yeah, I I try to avoid saying AI Because everybody says AI. I'm like, what kind of AI is it machine learning and large language model deep learning neural network? What do you got? Probably any of the apple products There were no apple products two screen laptop the zen fold. That's not new It's just that they got better at it. That's what we talked about with Shannon yesterday Quad folding phone saying that's hilarious. Yes, please quad folding phone No announcement for 4k blu-ray players Mmm Really thought with the decline of streaming physical would make a comeback. Okay. Here's my take on this You are right Physical is better. You are right. It looks better. You have control You are right that people got a big scare When sony decided that they were going to have to remove some content because they couldn't get the licensing terms renewed Those kinds of things rarely have widespread effect because most people aren't paying attention Most people don't care that sony library was a very big deal for a very small amount of people Not a lot of people used it and the people who are mad about it and not affected by it Will forget so I just think convenience trump's fidelity once again and the convenience of well, I can just go online and watch it Is going to trump. I have to buy it and then take it to my home and then keep it and organize it And remember where I put it and get the disc and put it in Just it's sad but true Uh that I think that's what's gonna gonna win What they do need to do is make it easier for you to find on the streaming services That's the big challenge now I don't know that I agree with that professor r2 studios hate selling you a copy. They can't control. I I think that's overstated I think studios, uh You know studios are full of people who want to just make art that people see and and whatever's easiest to get people To see it and they also have people in them who want to maximize that profit line And so whatever maximizes the profit line is good if physical media and when physical media does maximize profit lines They do physical media a great example is music Uh in korean japan cd sales are rocking because you can get fans to buy them As a collectible in which case they love physical media So it's it's it's not a it's not a moral thing at least that's not that's the way I look at it Uh season three of mando. I or a movie and a movie yes ces is Is interesting and I think I want to give the cta More credit than I think they get sometimes for working hard to stay relevant By doing things and attracting companies and bringing people in That Are going to be big next time Uh, the eureka park thing is one thing they like to tout a lot and I get it What they're doing there is really smart and I don't think it gets covered enough because it's hard to cover Because it's about their future So eureka park is where all the startups are and those booth spaces are Way more affordable than what you would pay in central hall south hall north hall west hall, etc Uh on purpose because they want to give startups a chance to get in front of people And become very big successful startups that can afford to buy the big booths And you know have a trained in their booth like sk Later on and you don't see that you don't see that You know, oh this group came from that Uh, you certainly don't see it when that startup gets bought and their product ends up being showed off at the You know samsung booth or or some other booth. So Um, I think they've done a good job of keeping ces Relevant because every year Everybody says I don't know. I'm not finding anything that wows me and then by the end of the week There's a good dozen Dozen to 20 things that people are like, yeah, but that was kind of interesting. That was unexpected Um, just the sheer scale of it is going to make that happen Okay, um I think i'm going to get ready for our production meeting here This is super fun. I can't believe we we went for 26 minutes. Didn't feel like it. I was just chatting away Oh beatmaster. That's a good. That's a good observation. Smart fridges are no longer the main ces choke Big televisions are And I will leave you with that note Uh DT and s coming up in just about an hour hour and 10 minutes I will see you all there. Enjoy the rest of your day clinton soi and david by