 And but like I'm not gonna start. I said eight years ago Yeah, I remember when people used to say like yeah I'm not gonna really start worrying about like go to the gym and work it out till I hit 30 It's like man that that I have a good friend. I'm gonna call him Ryan rush wood Very stressed about 30 40 and I was just like and try me a river could fighting in me And we were talking about it. I was like, you know that was like six years ago from here Back when we were talking about it. Yeah But I also remember being in my I don't know in college, right and being like that guy's old He's like 30. Yeah, like you say these things. Yeah, yeah get to that age And then like what in the heck? I'm that guy. Yeah, but like it's also like you're still young like Oh, yes Yeah, I was I was Always the youngest and everything I was youngest to graduate. I was young as a different jobs and then now I'm like The oldest on YouTube. Yeah, I graduated high school at 17. Yeah, same here. I started my senior at 16 and Yeah, they're like it just became late. You're a December. I've been November So it's kind of weird because now I'm just the old guy June I actually don't belong on this show. I've just realized I went to high school early in the 80s I was born in the summer. Yeah, Gramps Like the other cool Technically you were born in the 60s technically. Yeah Yes What do you mean technically even there were not the decade starts with the first year Okay, like year zero doesn't count, right? So it's one two three and so the 10th year is technically the last year in a decade So 1970 would be the last year of the 60s Even though nobody in practice. That's not true. Yeah, that's just only numerically true Yeah, I think almost across the board if you were like, you know, I was born in the 60s in 1970 people would be like Well, this is the big thing when the millennium happened people like it actually the 21st century doesn't begin till next year And everybody's like great. You have a fun party next year then Yeah, Prince told us a party now, so where is it? Yeah, exactly. I still have that shirt from tech TV or ZD TV Are you guys ready? Yes It is news time on Point-to-point Forget that out there. Here we go Three two Do you enjoy hearing the tech news delivered by smart informed people me too learn more about how you can support this show at daily tech news show comm slash support This is the daily tech news for Tuesday April 24th, 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt also in Los Angeles at studio If you line, I'm Sarah Lane and also in Los Angeles. I'm the Marvelson Are you in Los Angeles producer Roger Chang? I'm in Los Angeles adjacent. You're the county. Yes, so sure All right, so many folks. We are inside the bubble. We're inside the freeway bubble here Solidarity everybody have the best weather ever the key to seeing outside the bubble is acknowledging that it's there That's how you escape it, right? Let's start with a few tech things you should know Amazon announced a new service that'll let the couriers Deliver Amazon Prime orders to the trunk of certain cars in 37 cities in the US to prime members I know what you're thinking and we're gonna talk about a lot of those things that you're thinking a little bit later in the show Yes, God. We are it's Instagram is rolling out a new data download tool to users accessible through the apps privacy settings Thank God to let users export their photos video stories Profile info comments and messages the new tool allows Instagram to comply with the data portability rule in European Union's GDP our privacy law the ghost in effect May 25th Instagram users can also upload multiple photos and videos at once What's that announced is also adding a data download tool US Supreme Court ruled 7 to 2 Tuesday that the US Patent and Trademark Office's review procedure called inter partase is Constitutional this is the review that Congress made possible that allows the US PTO to reconsider a patent grant without making the parties Spend the money fighting it out in federal court The US securities and exchange commission said Tuesday that Altaba you might recall That's the part of yahoo that Verizon did not buy has agreed to pay $35 million to settle charges that yahoo did not disclose its December 24 data breach to investors All right We got a couple of companies that are scrambling to show you that they are working hard to get bad stuff off their platform Who's the first one the more? Yeah, the first one is good old YouTube So YouTube issued its first quarterly moderation report saying it remove 8.3 million videos between October and December last year for violated community guidelines now 6.7 million of them were flagged for review by machine and 76 of those were removed before getting any views So, um, you know been on YouTube almost 10 years myself year on YouTube as well matter of fact wearing YouTube right now. Hi I have to say I like the transparency YouTube and Google have always been Mysterious about what their policies were for removing the guidelines. We never we never had a report like this So I for one just as a person who is on here every day. It's glad to see you know that hey They're they're doing something but then here's why they're doing it, you know, here's why they're removing I've had never had a video removed, but in the last month I've had two that were like sent to manual review and I asked my youtuber. What's what's you know? I'm pretty family-friendly. What's manual review? And it's like, oh, they is people are periodically just picking videos to just make sure Everything's good. Yes. Hey It's kind of interesting to that 76 percent of these videos were removed by machine before getting posted So that whole like your video is processing makes a little bit more sense. Yeah I mean what YouTube's trying to say here is sure It's easy to look at the millions and millions of views or videos on on YouTube find the one We missed and say YouTube isn't doing enough. We're trying to show that we're making our best effort There's a lot of videos out there. You could decide whether that's good enough But these are good numbers to look at and say like alright, so they are catching millions of videos that shouldn't be up there You can then take that into account when you decide if you think they're doing well enough or not I They constantly demonetize YouTube videos for DT and S which we then have to send a manual review Which then get remunetized except once and that was the time that we discussed the shooting at the YouTube campus now That might be a legitimate reason to demonetize because very often on Newscasts if they're covering a tragedy or a disaster, they don't run commercials Partly because they don't want to look crass like they're monetizing a tragedy But also sometimes advertisers are like, yeah, I don't want to be around that. I don't want to be around that coverage So it's that aspect of it too. Well speaking of community standards Facebook released an updated version of its community standards guidelines to users so they can better understand how Content moderators handle abjectional material. Here's an example the definition of harassment Facebook now says means users can't send a message that calls for death serious disease or disability or physical harm or Claims that a victim of a violent tragedy might be lying about being a victim This is not something that Facebook disclosed before that it's actual human moderators We're looking at users previously could only request an appeal if their Facebook profile page or group was taken down Altogether now that's change. They can challenge the removal of individual posts of content Users can also now appeal Facebook's decision to preserve content that a user reports as a violation of the company's rules So this is interesting. So they're saying that okay So if I just say I was friend Facebook friends with you and I said and just excuse this because I would never say this I say I hope you die. What will that never get to you? with this Messages posted on Facebook. I don't know that messenger messenger. Okay. That was the confusion I was yeah, that that is confusing for people but I you know and that said All of this has the same problem, which is well, what about actual jokes? What about a situation where there was a victim who was taking advantage of a violent tragedy to pretend? And and get something out of it not the opposite which we've seen recently where people were trying to say that actual victims weren't you know who draws the line and so Part of this very complex process is Facebook saying here's the guidelines we use right But the other part of it is how are they actually executed the of the 10,000 people that Facebook now employs to do this Where do they draw these lines? It's good to know where there's supposed to be drawing the lines But you know, you also have to watch this side of it. It's a huge nightmare for Facebook because No matter which way they lean there's gonna be a side that says you're suppressing our speech Yeah, I just put this in in IRC check like who are who determines what's funny Like you know, like like like if you if you're making a joke and just you know Just it's funny to you might not be funny the others or vice versa So, you know humor is always subjective like that. So it's gonna run into problems with somebody saying something insulting on purpose And then trying to say oh, I was just joking to get out of it right to avoid it Well, yeah, and it's important that Facebook, you know, they're not saying hey We've changed you know what we define as harassment. They're just saying here's what we're going to look at And you should know this and we're going to make this publicly available so that everybody has more information No, that's a really good point. They're not changing their policy. They're not saying we're doing anything different They're saying this is what it is. This is what the people who've been moderating Facebook recently have been working off of Catherine Temkin and her team at re-switched published an exploit chain that they're calling it fuse a jelly It's an exploit ice cream. I know right Delicious exploit for the NVIDIA Tegra X1 based The most famous NVIDIA Tegra X1 based system is the Nintendo switch now an improperly coded USB control procedure in the Tegra Can allow for circumvention of lockout operations that protect the boot ROM During USB recovery mode the method requires shorting out a pin on the right joy-con connector. This is not an Easy thing for everyone to take advantage of it's not Terribly sophisticated if you know what you're doing though There's a couple of ways to do that short out and it takes advantage of the fact that you want your boot ROM to be Unchangeable so they don't change the boot ROM They just are able to run arbitrary code because they can circumvent the lockout and it's not going to be able to be Patched because the boot ROM is designed not to be modifiable They can't go into the boot ROM and change the flaw now because they protected the boot ROM from being changed Which you want to do and this exploit got around it now the exploit is probably going to be used almost entirely for Running Unauthorized code so yes, it could be used for game piracy. It could also be used for homebrew stuff And people cracking the switch to to do cool things with it as well as illegal things There's also the likelihood of somebody doing something bad Which is why Tempkin and her team made this public and there are a few other teams have now come forward and say yeah We actually found the same vulnerability. We weren't at the end of our 90 days yet So we hadn't made it public yet, but now that she has we're gonna make our findings public as well Yeah, I was reading that this really terrifies Nintendo is one of the reasons they they haven't done any kind of you know Sage regained to the cloud or save your game, you know to SD card and they're very arcade when it when it comes to to their same with this because they're Legit terrified about this kind of scenario and now they have this kind of scenario So, you know, dude, do they just say hey, let's just give everybody does As an attendant user, that's what I'm only just gonna say hey Let's just do the services that PlayStation and Xbox does and hope for the best or or do, you know Do they panic with you know with this and make it even harder for us to do basic things on the switch Yeah, and he barge points out that there are ways to do signed boot ROMs that you can change them So I'd be real curious if there's absolutely no way to do this. It may just be costly to update it and honestly It may not be worth updating But it's certainly not an easy patch like some vulnerabilities Okay, so Spotify announced a new free version of its mobile app which now recommends music to users on the fly Previously the free limit free tiered limited users to shuffle now with the new version Users can listen on demand to whatever song they want as many times as they want as long as those songs appear on one of the 15 personalized discovery playlists like daily mix discover weekly Release radar or today's top hits. So, I mean, I know people love Spotify discover weekly That's like a beloved playlist. I am not a Spotify user I was not aware that on the free tier, which I know is gonna have to be limited and you know In some sense because Apple music, which I paid for is 10 bucks a month I didn't I was not aware that you couldn't listen to a specific song as many times as you wanted. Yeah I was gonna make a playlist But you can only listen to it on shuffle so you can't control which songs come up like a Pandora It's a little bit more of a Pandora thing. Yeah, and that with a little tiny bit more control now What they're saying is all right if we put the song on a playlist because we're gonna pretend we're radio Then you can play it as many times you want British trip-hop act massive attack we were talking earlier about feeling old buckle up everybody This was in the pre-show is celebrating the 20th anniversary of their album mezzanine And that makes me feel old by having it preserved in D and a it's really cool The medium will actually have an estimated life span of hundreds two thousands of years versus decades expected from CDs Scientists at the functional materials laboratory at ETH Zurich University will do the encoding opus music compression We'll get the album down to 15 megabytes, which will then be split into 920,000 fragments each encoded in a DNA strand that will be stored in 5,000 nanometer scale glass beads Appropriate name be a massive attack on someone's system to have this music. That's all I had. I'm sorry guys It's not funny. I try it The fact that they're doing this is incredible. I've never heard of such a thing. It's really cool I also happen to I had this album A long time ago glass beads though. I didn't know I had it on CD and I haven't seen that CD in a while I think I probably sold it back to Amoeba music You know be alive anymore because it's you know, 20 years old so Yeah, I know but but yeah, it's it's this is uh, I Don't I you know, it's kind of gimmicky, right? But it's pretty cool that you can just achieve this. It's gimmicky for science Yeah, what I'm saying like it's not like gimmicky in like hey Let's let's sell a bunch of glass bead versions of our 20 year old album Like that's not gimmicky in the sense that this is actually going to preserve You know a piece of media for potentially thousands of years Well, it will but that's what I mean. That's not the gimmick No, the game the gimmick is is is for the people who are developing DNA as a preservation Storage system to say well, okay, we could store our paper that describes how to do this But nobody's gonna care about that Let's get massive attack on board and then people will know about the technology that we're developing And and the ability to store in DNA So so if I understand it right what they're doing is instead of zeros and ones Which is what you would put in a digital file on a CD. They're using, you know, GABH the the parts of the DNA to encode the information and then they Freeze those strands in glass so that they don't break down But they're able to be read Trans through the transparent glass. So I want my videos to be preserved like this and Google check out one day You know you are to take out word, you know, a thousand years from now people can say wow that guy They weren't ready for him CG not GABA I said GABA because I was thinking proteins for some reason. Okay, now I'm hungry. All right Years from now They're gonna be any humans Well, there won't be if we are not able to store information long enough to recover from the inevitable apocalypse But Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to Daily Tech headlines on the Amazon Echo the Google Home the anchor app and of course at Daily Tech headlines comm So Amazon announced a new service We mentioned at the top of the show giving couriers access to your car in partnership with General Motors and Volvo Rolling out to 37 cities for Amazon Prime members Who say it to be in the city had to be an Amazon Prime member and you have to own a GM or a Volvo That is model your 2015 or newer with an active on-star or Volvo on-call account now So we're still in the verge that Amazon signed a two-year contract with both GM and Volvo The company says it plans to add other brands over time But GM and Volvo are kind of advanced in this notion of we have access to your car in case of emergency Or if you lose your keys, so they Amazon can tap into this securely Amazon doesn't have to know anything about the cars. You just associate your on-star or your Volvo account with the Amazon key app and then the Amazon delivery person says, okay I'm at the car. I'm supposed to deliver the package to let me in GM and Volvo take on the responsibility of making sure. Okay. That really is an Amazon delivery person This person did order this they have associated their count great will unlock the car And they make sure that that trunk is closed or that door to the pickup is closed and locked before They released the delivery person to be able to make their next delivery. It still sounds When I read this early this morning, it still sounds like an April Fool's joke Like did you watch the video that they had like like it's it was so cheesy and so way too upbeat about these people being so happy Like overly happy and it just seemed like this is April Fool's They should release it on April Fool's and then and then the second next day we're like, hey guys I was actually real. I would have bought that a little bit better But if it hadn't been portrait videos, you wouldn't believe you like these aren't real beta testers I mean, there are some limitations because my first reaction was like, holy crap. I have so much junk in my trunk and That I mean that Curious what you'll be doing with that. Well, I'm gonna Well, first of all, I don't have a GM or a vehicle, right But yeah, I there are a lot of things in my trunk that would make putting a package in my trunk a difficult That said packages that weigh over 50 pounds are, you know, a certain size if you they require a signature Or if they're from a third-party seller, which a lot of Amazon Packages are are not eligible at this time. So this is a limited rollout for prime members Yeah, there was a person I saw on Twitter and it was like, hey, I'm a third party's before they said was third-party said they didn't Read the article. He's like, I'm a third-party seller and I sell makeup. I don't want that going to a hot car Can I can I? You know opt out of this and and and so that you know, that's one of the answers right there And they will have to tackle some of those things what what what your groceries if you did Amazon fresh with that Oh, yeah, Amazon fresh is gonna be part of this. You're right. That's a good point Yeah, I don't know ice cream sitting in the back of my F-150 Melton I've got a friend who's got a car parked and I have like a tandem spot I've got two spots, you know technically but I know all my neighbors and there's a friend of mine Who's parking his car in there right now and you know, he said to me the other day One of your neighbors stopped me and asked me what I was doing there and the whole thing You know, it's like neighborhood watch, right? You know, we're all looking out for each other Yeah, I don't know you what are you doing there? And you can only imagine What you know got somebody and someone's trunk who like doesn't really seem like they're supposed to be there aren't Recognized even if they're wearing the right stuff is gonna confuse people and a lot of them are Amazon logistics So they're not wearing the right stuff. They're wearing regular clothes So imagine a car Or their own car because a lot of people use their own cars and pull up and opening your trunk I mean it just looks somebody can get hurt So like they may have to have some kind of you know, a uniform or something on just that's the kind of thing That does go away as people get used to it like oh, that's a delivery person, but you're right You know, there'd be misunderstandings And then you figure out how to spoof the outfit then you got robbers running amok Yeah, I mean everybody I know Stoic squirrel said it and he just said it for everybody else Which is you know, people break into cars, right? I don't like to open my trunk in a public parking lot and put things in it I'm gonna say where you know, I'm worried somebody's gonna see like oh, I put some cool stuff in there Let's go, you know, let's see what it was. It's also not like super easy to get into someone's trunk I mean, well, you're gonna do it But it's not like someone's like and the chances are low as paranoid as I may be about it The chances are low and they're still lower than someone leaving a package outside your door That anyone could just walk up and take totally having to break into a truck So wait, so what do you think of this versus the hey, I'm gonna open your house and And leave that's part of Amazon key as well, right? I don't want anybody in my house in my in the trunk of my car. Sorry. It's messy But like that I could deal with that, you know, if I eventually had a car model where I could take advantage of this Sure, I would yeah in my house. No, I don't like that idea at all I would rather them and they're doing a good job of it and if you're in a like major cities But I would rather them push more of the Amazon lockers, you know They have someone on my 7-elevens and things that I would like to see roll out of more of those Versus that this idea, you know, because I have a UPS stores. I could throw my stuff there But you know, they're kind of expensive. So I mean, there's a whole foods near me that I go to all the time Anyway, they have a Amazon lockers and lots of people use them It's super convenient because I know I'm going there at least once a week. Yeah And it's not an either or if you feel more comfortable using the locker. They're still they still have the lockers, right? This is just hey if the lockers aren't convenient for you and you have a car and you've thought to yourself Well, I wish they could just leave it in the car. Then here you go I'm curious how many of those people there are I am too Because if I'm at work like what so one of the ways this works is they geofence it where your car is, right? They're able to track it through on-star for instance or Volvo And they say look it has to be within a certain radius of one of your Amazon delivery addresses And most people have home and work right as their Amazon delivery addresses. Yeah, so it has to be home or work I could see we're like, oh, I left the car at home I feel better about you putting it in the trunk of the car than leaving it on my porch You see that scenario I can't imagine at work that I'd feel better with it being in the parking lot of my work versus in Versus, you know at the front desk or with the mail room or whatever Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree with that and then and then what do you do for? Apartment buildings that have a parking lot trying to try to find the car You know that that that's could be pretty crazy too. I mean Sarah I could see this working for you sometimes if you haven't taken your car and maybe you're out Because I because you you know you you've had problems the package is making it to you because you're not there to sign for So maybe maybe that's better. I don't know But you you can't have a package that has to be signed for in this Program either so it doesn't really fix the However, you know beginning stages, I don't know I Yeah, I don't mean to you know condemn Amazon for trying something new This is interesting and it might work great for certain people in certain circumstances. Yeah, yeah, you got to start somewhere I mean if this is something that owners of you know The cars that fit into the model that are also primed subscribers are like this is awesome You know like it just changes everything. We love this. Yeah, you'll see a way to roll out Yeah, there are people who love the the in-home one. I've seen people like oh, yeah I love you know, they don't have pets and things they're gonna run out I don't know anybody who's using it yet. I'd love I'd love to talk to somebody about that I keep my car in my garage. I know that I'm unusual in that respect but Our garage with other things we put a car in it My mom parks her car in garage. It's not that weird. I'm gonna let them into my garage I guess I if I had if I was gonna let them in my garage, I just let them in the house, right at that point Why not? Yeah, yeah I mean, I don't know. I guess there's fewer things in the garage, but still hey Thanks everybody participates in our subreddit you can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and Tell us what you would do as far as this Amazon delivery either there or at Facebook comm slash groups slash Daily Tech News show What is the mail today? Chip from Boston That was very robotic of you Like it's on robot. I see what you're doing a chip from Boston who says he works at a TV station says I was watching TV Sunday night I have to watch this stuff. I notice an ad for Snapchat during primetime and ABC during America's Funnies home videos And then again during American Idol. I was wondering what do you guys think about this whole new media company running ads on old media? Is this a ploy to pull in older users now for you know, my first reaction was like well I mean think about all the YouTube TV ads that we saw during the Super Bowl But then I what I thought of America's Funnies home videos. I Don't know offhand what the demo for that is but I assume it's use older this older, you know It's like yeah, what what is the point of a snap ad during that? That time slot on ABC. I mean American Idol seems core, right? They're just yeah, that's a bunch of bunch of folks who are using snap probably watching that in an aspirational way I'm gonna be on American Idol American Idol runs things on snap So that makes sense, but America's Funnies home videos and Mike was maybe it was just run of sight Yeah, I think I think ploy and no no, Christopher. I think the word ploy is sounds a little negative. I I I think Any I mean, there's so many people that it's the TV viewing audience who stills the really not on internet and on apps Are it's astronomically huge? I mean, it's there's no parody of that yet. So Yeah, it's not Chinese that's not Chinese new fresh blood. I And I said look, I think it's more significant that it's snap doing it not that it's new media We I've seen Twitter ads on TV. I've seen Facebook ads on TV It's that snap has gotten to the point where they're like worth worth spending some TV money to try to build an audience Well, and I think that it points to Sure, you know, if you're trying to build your older audience, how are you gonna get those people? You know, where where are those people spending time? You know, are you bottoming out kind of in you know, the the younger realm beef in our chat room points that out? Of course, you can upload clips through snapchat for America's funniest home videos Okay, there it is perfect sense even if the demo is a little off Okay, so I haven't watched that show in a really long yeah, so they want to be part of this show Uh Well, so see there you go. It's integration that we just didn't even get chip. You should know better. You work at a TV station Also, it's America's funniest videos according to beef not home videos anymore Oh, because yeah, right. It's like the idea of home videos antiquated. Isn't it? Yes. Yeah Like you're not at home. You're out and about got another email real quick from Dave Who said thinking of Amazon home robots and what they would be best for? Surely picking up dog poo would be the killer app here. Oh man, Dave You're you're speaking to the choir there. Yeah, if that if that thing can roll on on uneven ground That's coming out with me morning and night with the dogs like Yeah, I mean, yeah assuming that your dog is not doing that his or her business in the house That's a whole other thing. Oh gosh. No. No, I'm just talking about I got in the morning with the dogs in the backyard I got the evening at the dogs in the backyard and then do their business a robot picking it up would be great Nobody wants to do that. Like that probably no one in the whole world is like, no, I like it. I enjoy that Really, it's one of my favorite thing they can clean my cats litter box. I will buy one for any amount of money I used to have a neighbor who would come out and talk to me. She was great I loved her, but she would come out and talk to me and be like, how's it going? I'm like, I'm picking up dog poop Sir, you've got to get a litter robot by the way, I'll tell you bottom after the show. Oh, please do Grace. Yeah, please do Yeah Thank you. I can't wait. I'm also. Thank you for being on the show in general It's great to have you on the show more regularly Lamar Wilson till folks where they can keep up with everything else that you do Yeah, so I'm at Lamar Wilson pretty much everywhere. I I do YouTube videos on boxing showcasing cool products mostly in the Gaming round this week will be doing some Lego And kind of geek holes unboxing we unboxed a Nintendo Label and I was the thing that I did. I'll just say that it It is it is a product that exists Did you know anything with it yet? No, I will I built I built this the the controller holder and oh, yeah the demo thing That was the that was yeah, that was my limit. 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I also I hear a tiny hiss Well now I hear a lot more no just in general it's something that I don't normally hear Nobody else here that here's that actually I guess you do hear that now. Yeah, it's not like Really, I don't know. Let me meet my mic save you here now. I do So it's not me Yeah, it's calming. Yeah. No, I like it It's just something that I'm okay Yeah, it's you. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's just on the noise from Roger then. Yeah Roger's just got Mike issues. That's why you need to be in LA. It's because of the roofers I was gonna say Roger has a whole new roof being put above him right now. No, no surprise It's a wonder. He's on the show at all with all that racket Trying to say something about the title of the show. I think I think it was Amazon's junk in your trunk was at the top I mean, it's that's a great one. That's a pretty good. Yeah, unless you want prime junk in your truck No, no, that was good. No, no, nobody knows what prime junk is Yeah, we just Gonna get a whole different audience with that title just be prepared About time we expanded they're gonna be real disappointed We're branching out We're gonna, you know start advertising on ABC. Just you wait on America's funniest Dts after dark Isn't that funny that first of all that Bob Saget is no longer part of it because you know He was a delightfully bad part of it The fact that it's not called America's funniest home videos anymore, right and the fact that it's on Right Because I thought I remember thinking in the 2000s Watching YouTube saying well, this is the end of America's funniest home videos, right? Because everybody can just watch whatever of the funny cat videos they want all day long, right? I'm not. Yeah, it's curated. It's curated. In fact, it was YouTube before YouTube Well, that was my point. Yeah, and that with YouTube came along you would need it anymore, but it turns out you do So so Sarah yeah, you've never you've never seen the the litter robot Okay, so it well, I'll try to get a link. We just just type in litter robot like so I've had cat years ago And it's just round Litter box and you know, you put the litter in there cat goes in does this business walks out and then about what five to seven minutes After it's kind of clipped up it automatically spins and then it gets filters out the litter the the stuff Clumps and goes to the bottom bin and then it just it resets and the litter is nice and fresh and Like it's not a robot. It's a Electronic litter. Yeah, and you and you and you clean it like I kind of assume that it was like a Oh, no, no, no, you take out the bottom thing Maybe depending on how many cats you have maybe once or twice a week and it's already in the bag And then you just like it's like easiest thing For a take person like they have healthy. I don't know Did you have space to put that? Look at the size of that thing you definitely look at our families looking okay, okay, okay, they're cramming on that one couch We had to sell our normal size couch Make room for this Look how happy that family is. She's not happy. She's in pain because it's such a small Room on the couch she's crying. I'd be crushed by the cat. Yeah, it's like when you get tickled Because I'm having fun You know that could my litter box is currently sort of like in a closet. I don't know I have to plug this you have to plug this up, but I tell you it's You don't have to touch anything yeah, dude, you know what Sam and Lucy would love this Yeah, I'm not sure that's true, but I would love that Cats again, it's it's number one what I what I'm gonna get for sure When you have a fish tank you don't need to change the litter box Yeah True true true wait I think The cat's going in the fish tank And then I realized what Roger was saying is you have fish. Yeah, yeah, right Instead of cats fish are boring that's yes Fish are lame Man, I haven't thought about that in a while I have a friend who has a Rather large fish tank and she I don't remember the kind of fish that is like the you know, like sort of like that, you know, I the I don't know the mean fish But she'll buy fish because she knows that the mean fish will eat the other fish And it's not even really like for food. It's like a predatory thing And I'm like I cannot imagine That just being like something that happens in your living room as you're like casually trying to wind down after a long day if you if you want to play at being like a little uh roman Dictator and you know have your gladiatorial games you can have it with a fish tank so stressful I would never and you know what do you get a little digital music player Attaches some or smart speaker and have it play the fight sequence music from the original star trek Uh But it's like oh those poor little fish, you know, they're just being plopped into their death And then there was and you watch it There's something up with that man. I want to put some salmon in my uh air fryer tonight now I made salmon last night. Oh did you do you have an air fryer? No I air fry everything I like I need to do we need to do a whole show on air fires because I am Probably the biggest male fan of this like I'm part of a facebook group. It's all women. It's hilarious, but they love that. I'm there That I'm talking about air fryer. This isn't like a thing that women should know about and I don't what's an air fryer Well, it's it's it's stereotypical if you like the women should be cooking like anybody could it anybody could What is it? Type of oven so it's So you put it it's air that's circulating my father-in-law has one by the way just Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I it's not it's not for women Right, but in the in the facebook group. That's just all that that's there. It just happens to be Yeah, yeah They're like, oh a guy's here. Wait, how many people are in this facebook group? Oh thousands thousands thousands Wow You know, I I fry a lot of stuff, but just like I'm all cast iron all the time Well, so this is no oil little to no oil. Uh, and and it's still frying it. Uh, like that Hence the air got it. Yeah. I do state Like in there 400 degrees 16 minutes. I never turn it. It comes out perfect Like literally I never thought a new york strip would be taste like a restaurant style. How is it frying? That's the part I never quite understood. Yeah It's the air the air. Yeah, the air is circulating is circulating it. Why would it just be air broiling? Yeah, right exactly I mean, yeah, I knew what tech people do probably like but air frying sounds cooler Uh, okay. All right. You don't want to uh, yeah, maybe I don't want to arrest my family since Will breading work with that? Yes. Okay Uh, I would I would say probably consistency wouldn't be as good as if you dipped it in vectual obviously Because that all vectual l1 is doing flash kind of keeping it together. Yeah, right. Yeah, so, you know I there are recipes that people do it in it and they love why I always use egg in my breading Yeah, that's what I you put the same I'm same things and and and if it fries it up Uh, because it's not it's not the oil that's making it its consistency and taste when you fry it That's just you know, what's heating it up. But yeah, the air is kind of doing the same thing Uh, I've been nothing but a press like I'm cooking it almost every day Oh, that's cool. Yeah Give it a try I always like to try a new method of something that I'm kind of like I know how to do it, but It's the pot group too See that's the thing I want to try it But I have so many cooking implements that are like, oh, here's the george foreman grill that we no longer use Right. Here's the blah blah blah. We know. No, exactly. I got rid of my george foreman because of this stuff Uh, so yeah, it's not not the fat Yeah, it does just drip down to the bottom. It's very easy to clean I actually I find that george foreman to be a pain in the ass to clean I I I don't I don't want to get rid of fat. No, I'm I'm I want the oil I want the fat. Well, see I've been eating more, uh, saturated fat of extra oil that I'm dropping weight Uh, because yeah, I'm also like I'm always trying to gain weight because I'm you know Just a well fat won't make you gain weight just eat a whole bunch of carbs. That'll do it Well, but yeah, it doesn't help either. But but what I'm saying is there's no reason for me to take out delicious fat from Doesn't help me. I want it. I want it to stay One day I'll have you all over and I will do an air fryer party and I'll wait Is the air fryer the same thing as a convection? It's not the same. I don't know. I know there is a difference Uh Super heated oven with a fan that blows the air around Yeah, so this is a fan at the top that's pushing the air down and then it's circulating So it's getting both sides of the whatever It is simple. I don't I actually don't know what the exact differences Maybe I should go with just a double boiler instead. Now you're super low in volume, roger Turned yourself down too far. He was contemplating life there. I haven't touched it All right, what about a pressure? How about the pressure cooker? I'll just go with the pressure I have the insta pot and I wanted to do the one where the guy with the really bad hair Crams all the frozen food and the cuts of meat and then 30 minutes later. There's a complete meal. Yeah I'm just like straight out of like the freezer. Yeah. Well, yeah, he does even take it out of the package She shoves it with the plastic and everything and it's all done. Oh speaking of packages So I was at Whole Foods as I as I tend to do the other day and I realized I'm at it um dishwasher detergent I usually like to get like the good stuff the cascade that Whole Foods doesn't have but I was like, I'm already here I'll just you know get whatever so I got one of their little like it's like little pods That you know, they're like in a plastic thing But you're not supposed to take the detergent out of plastic. You're supposed to put it Oh, yeah, that's all I used in plastic into your dishwasher. And I was like It's a cellulose. Yeah, you've never used the pods before Uh Not the you know, like it was like the Whole Foods 365 brand. Okay, you know, it didn't clean anything That's how you know, it's organic. Yes. I mean There's certain things where you're like, I just I want I want the chemicals. Yeah, I really do And the dishwasher is one of those places like I looked at all my stuff last night. It was like it wasn't even sort of clean Who has a waste the best dishwasher I ever used is the these two right here There's a lot of scrubbing No, I it's weird because I I have yet to find any dishwasher or dishwasher soap That could compare to Two arms of just scrubbing Yeah, well, it's funny it like I mean, I'm a single person who lives alone And it's very nice to have a dishwasher Yeah, but I've also not had one And I it's like really easy to do your own dishes. It is You know, it's like But it's sort of like this luxury where I'm like sort of silly. I could just Watch my like one plate, you know, as I use it instead of Anyway, I've just don't buy those pods man No, I use the cascade pods cascade platinum or ultimate whatever the thing is complete and those are great Those are like fantastic. What's the one with the red little power dot in the middle? It's like a square soap for I'm trying to remember that we use it on occasion. I use the dish automatic dishwasher like once a month But it's like it has like two types of soap and that has a red power dot I don't know Supposedly adds the power to the soap Right Crystallized technology You know, it makes it work better and you could tell because there's a red dot And a dishwasher actually uses less water than you would in a sink Really? Well, that depends on how you clean it with it. That's true. That's true Well, all I know is that I've got a dishwasher that I just ran full of dirty dishes And I am For like two or three days and then do it or do you do it every night? Because I tend to try to do it every night, uh, like I'll make dishes like I put my air fryer thing in there every night You make dishes it's like on purpose. No, he means he Accumulates dishes that are dirty. I mean, I wouldn't be able to run a dishwasher every night. My gosh Maybe once like a week. I do it because I I put the air fryer in there and it takes care of all that grease and stuff Yeah, and yeah, it sometimes it's I'll stretch it too. But uh, yeah, I don't I don't accumulate enough dishes For for nightly, but because I don't either. I think it's so big Oh, yeah, I'm seeing a super ball super charge Oh the finish Finish used to be the finishing stuff not not a cleaner. So that's actually interesting They're coming out. They came out with soap if they gave me a power ball lottery ticket As well as the detergent that would be awesome Yeah, you don't have to worry about that roof anymore Well, I'm worried about it now because it's halfway done I actually just because you know, at least some of us will know these people I I I remember as you know, people ask each other for advice on facebook and stuff Colleen henry At one point was like, dude Why am I washing my dishes and my dishes just aren't being clean after washing them the dishwasher with the heck You know, they're clean, but they're not clean and mollywood was like rinsed I've heard that that's what you need Complete has it in there has a built-in and ever since then every time I put my rinsed in there I think of that conversation Let me ask you do you do any pre cleaning of the dishes like say you eat a very like sticky blueberry pie Not anymore try to clean. Oh, yeah Yeah, I I don't because I have heard that the more stuff that's on there the better the soap will work It won't activate if you don't have stuff on the dishes It won't no no no i'm dead serious. It needs it needs the stuff to activate the great To activate yeah, it's scientific. Oh, okay, because I read it because I read on the internet scientific. Yeah, look it up I think honestly, I think it just depends on how good your dishwasher is Because I mean when I was growing up if we were lucky enough to have a dishwasher in our house You know, my mom would always be like you basically clean the entire thing And then you put it in the dishwasher and that's the way it goes But I have friends who will like yeah, like there's food all over everything and they're like No, it'll come out totally clean or I'm like, wow, what is this fish or lame video? Tom oh when I mentioned fish or lame earlier. It may be good at a rabbit hole to find this video from 2000 lords Actually, I think it's from 2005 or 2000. No, it's before because it was before we moved to g4. This is at Townsend Yeah, no, you're right. Probably 2004 or 2004 for sure. Wait, that's that's you. Oh, wow Uh, that's not me. No, uh, but that is Sarah holding the fish our lame sign. It's true. It's true It is I don't remember what we were protesting now You it was for a video that josh lords was shooting. It was well, no, I remember that but what why we were doing a A comedy show why was I upset about fish? I think this was part of our sand frame sisco sketch But I don't remember for sure wow I was also wearing a tent of some kind Hard to know Um different time. Have we talked to josh lorns lately? Yeah, uh, it's been a month or two, but yeah, he he helps out with sorden laser a bunch Oh, he does. Yeah Well, you tell him hello for me And clary will and clary's. Yes, clary's is good I always still remember approaching lane because he was like my web, you know editor for a lot of my stuff You know what I always be like I didn't do that web stuff I was supposed to do for you So Next time I'm on we're gonna talk about laundry services And if you should send your laundry out to a wash and fold or do it yourself That's right folks next time on point to point And I'll let you in on a little secret because I'm chinese. I have an ancient chinese secret to share Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, so only I could say that see you next time. All right