 Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. OK, so when you and I want to ask you about I don't want to stay on the Megan. Everybody asked you the same question. Do you get tired of answering the same damn question? I haven't been talking in a while. And the thing is, OK, I look back at some interviews. I'm here to always clear my name. That's why I was able to talk. When you think about Megan and Stallion, when y'all came together, how many did she have 100,000 followers when y'all first got together? I think she had probably like a hundred and twenty thousand. A hundred and twenty thousand followers. When she was taking that picture with Jay Z, how many followers did she have? She had over a million followers. But that was that was during the time you guys had worked with her to get there. That was how we build it up. Yeah, I seen the I seen the build up. The build up was crazy. So do you feel like when you done it? Do you think that she and you, you know, you could have got you should have got had a closer relationship with her? You know, she's my first big artist. You see what I'm saying? But this is where the T Ferris come back. And I hate to make him a theme of the night, but it's just what it is. You know, him knowing and keeping the division between I bought him a new truck just to drive her around in, you know, he's having a conversation next night. Now all of a sudden they riding in the front seat with each other. He picking up. He not even telling me he going to go get a he going to go. He going to the family functions. He ain't telling me nothing. You know, he are everything by him positioning himself to what he can get in her head and like turn on, you know, make it seem like, you know, it was me against her. You know, when it never was me against her, I never had no issues with her. We had like one situation with me and her mom. You know, I'm saying, got into an argument one time. And that's just because too strong here to people just met up. It happens, you know, I'm saying we apologize stuff after that. You know, I know I'm only telling you this because, you know, I heard from around the way T Ferris was trying to use that as a reason for why she didn't. I don't believe that because, you know, me and her mom made it up and we apologize to each other. But other than that, we never had no situation with Megan. I never told her notes and nothing. We gave her every single thing she wanted. I never, you know, stole money from her or did nothing. You know, I try to treat her like she was like my little sister or something. You know what I'm saying? So when all this stuff happened, I literally was like the confused person. And they knew I was going to be like that. I mean, did you have had you and you had to have some paperwork on as you still wouldn't be in a life. We still we had everything going on, you know, I had. How do you cut out of a deal, though? Let me let me let me I want to say, you know, shout out to my boy. Devon Stevens, you know, I know he, you know, they I know he probably don't want me to say his name right now, you know. But at the end of the day, man, they really would have got me good. Had, you know, he kind of, you know, told me, you know, I came in from Miami one day and he just pulled me to the side. And I was like, yo, bro, they from to cut you out. You know, he can see it. Yeah, he was like, yo, they from to squeeze you out. They from to squeeze. And I'm like, what you mean? Squeeze me out, bro. I'm happy. We in Miami. What the? What did you talk about? He said, hey, man, they from to squeeze you out. And I'm going to check everything. Yes. So when he told me this, I'm like, shit, squeeze me out. I'm thinking, I'm thinking we moving forward together. I'm not even understanding. That's a problem. So, you know, of course, I got to go talk to my consultant back home, Phil Ward, the OG, Lil Jay. I go tell him about this conversation that I have with this guy. And, you know, he starts to tell me, yeah, he's been here and when I was getting real. And now I'm starting to see all the funny shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, his open. All this. And I'm just like. So you had already contacted, well, not Jay Prince, but Lil Jay, the son. No, not the son. The dad. You already had talked to him. As soon as you heard that. Soon as I heard that, I went and gave him a call because I'm like, I don't even know who to call if they from the. Because he knows everything about the business. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So he can tell. I don't know what else to call, you know? So yeah, called him and he kind of gave him the heads up what was going on. And how to deal with it. Yeah, they got, you know, they got, Megan got so mad at Devon. She like, you know, started talking crazy to him. You know what I'm saying? Get mad because they told me, you know what I'm saying? It was like, yo, you know what I'm saying? They really was. You're really trying to take you for it? Yeah, I'm like, why? But what did I do? You know, take your, take all your resources that you dedicated to that project, dealing with them and say, you know what? I'm out of here. I'm not going to even try to. Would they have cut you all the way out if they could have? Oh yeah. You see what I'm saying? Like nothing. I don't want to. That was the plan. That was the plan. No more talking to you at all. It was like, you know, you know, that was the plan. The plan was to go over, you know, go rock nation, whatever. Get big lawyers and stuff and, you know, boot me out. Do what they do. But Jay-Z, on the other end, or whoever his people are, nobody was trying to even contact you out of respect because you were on the paperwork or they just didn't show them the paperwork. No, they weren't. They didn't have no respect for me. But they was coming in to take everything. You know what I'm saying? They was trying to get the contract voided. They was trying to get out the contract and Hunt T. Ferris was going to ride off into the sun. How did that make you feel about them? Is that just, it's just business? No, I just, I mean, I'm talking about rock nation. Rock nation? Yeah, like, how do you feel about the way that they did business outside of what you already would, you know, deal with them? I just feel like, you know, I guess that's what the big labels do. They come in, they let you build it all up. They come in and find the smallest thing, tell you it's a problem. Like, in her case, you view, and this ain't me making it up, is, you know, she say, oh, her publishing. I'm like, her publishing, you know what I'm saying? At this time, I don't know nothing about her publishing. So, you know, so this is, she say, rock nation came and showed her that, oh, I was taking too much of her publishing. Oh, okay, well, that's a, easy fix, you know what I'm saying? You can come and switch it, you know what I'm saying? You a big star, nah, whatever we have to do, we have to do. Nah, they was like, nah, they, so they made it look like, she had it in her mind, she wanted to go already. Yeah, she wanted to go. She wanted to sit on me. How did you stop it? I didn't stop it. Well, I stopped it because I called her J. Oh, you stopped it? Yeah, I called, I called her J, you know what I'm saying? It stopped. And had to, yeah, it had to. We had to slow it down, because they was moving fast. It slowed down. It was coming, they was coming strong. Man, how important is it to have a guy like little J, J Prince that you can call? Because you know what I'm saying? It's stuff like that when, it's like a, you know, when you try to, when somebody is bullying you, like a finna like do something like that to you. And you know, it's cool to be able to call somebody that can kind of just, you know, get in there and handle those type of situations for you. Now, you know, granted everybody they ain't got that kind of relationship with them. Luckily enough for me, I did. Like I said, I always, I always wanted to share what I did with Houston, with Houston people. I understood that I used the blueprint, you know what I'm saying? From the little days. You respected it. From the, from the, from the, from the Swiss, you see. So I had no problem with just, I wanted to share 15 on one, Megan, everybody, everybody. T-Fers and Megan, they had others. I looked right. And that's how it is. You're gonna always have people around you who don't have the same vision as you. But what I look on in any situation that we go through in life, what you're going through, what any of us go through that, it happens for a reason. God put us through different things for a reason to learn from it and to make you stronger for other things that will occur later on. Hey, she preaching. You understand what I mean? I understand, I just understand why I haven't happened to me. You know, it's one of them things because, no, because that was like one of the first time in my life where I made a plan for something and it went exactly as planned. Like, you know what I'm talking about? From how it started to finish. It went exactly as planned and for no reason, it just, they decided, hey man, you done do it. But you learned a lot more about the business after that. I did, I learned a lot. You see what I mean? If that didn't happen, you wouldn't have been on that track to learn. I want to ask about the first, that was the first artist officially that you had put on the? Well, no, she wasn't the first artist. Who was the first? She was the biggest one. The first artist was some guys out of my neighborhood. And you brought her home. I just came on, yeah, guys out of my neighborhood. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101.