 pray together and get started thank you each one for joining this course BC 214 in the class to develop in the human spirit thank you for joining the class today could somebody please lead us in prayer and then we will get started okay go ahead go ahead Maggie thank you sir okay let's pray holy Father we thank you again this morning Lord we thank you Lord for your grace that you've granted us lost to be here and to meet Lord so we may worship you in the way of learning about your ways Lord and we pray Father as we learn about developing our spirit Holy Spirit brought in us Lord working us so in power past Ashish we pray all this in the mighty name of our Lord Jesus Christ amen thank you all right good morning everyone I see your comments in the chat thank you and we're going to I want to just answer one one points that come up towards the end in the last last in the class last Monday and then we will finish up the section on analogies of the human spirit that's in the same chapter that we were covering last week we didn't have time to do that and so we said we will spend time on it this week so that's our plan for today we will I just answer so the question that came up last week as we were actually talking about the effects of the human spirit on the soul and the body and we just went through the list of scriptures on various things how the the condition of our spirit the experiences the the expressions of the human spirit affect our soul and our body we talked about that and then we talked about how words are very important our words affect our spirit as well as when these speak words you know we can impact other people's lives through the words we speak now the question that came up was about God hardening Pharaoh's heart and so I just you know I went and looked at Romans chapter 9 that's the passage that and I'll just you know paste my comments here it's actually something we cover in in that let me try to paste this here it's something that we actually covered in our study on the book of Romans and so I went and looked up that study and when we look at Romans chapter 9 especially verses 14 to 24 and the Lord is you know Paul is writing about how God as sovereign God he speaks ahead of time and declares things and Paul is specifically referring to Eson Jacob and by God says you know I have Jacob I've loved I've hated Esau and that same context and same this passage the Apostle Paul also refers to Pharaoh now this is Romans chapter 9 verses 14 24 he talks about Pharaoh and he says you know God raised him up a raised Pharaoh up to fulfill his purpose and and then we also see that there's this whole case and right after that Paul goes on to talk about the potter and and clay how the potter works with the clay you know so that can also be compared to what is happening now I know for those of you who joined a little late you may not be able to read my notes things I've just put out here but it will be in the lecture notes that come up in the next week's class right so we're talking about this this whole aspect of God hardening Pharaoh's heart so when you look at the scriptures there you find in Exodus you find scriptures that tell us and I've put them out in the chat which tell us that Pharaoh hardened his own heart and then you also find the other scriptures Exodus chapters 9 10 11 and 14 that tell us that the Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart so you see both sets of scriptures in Exodus and so how do we understand it and does it mean that God actually hardens people's hearts so that you know he kind of makes them do his will or now what what in how do we understand it now so I just and if you look at Romans 9 you understand it in the context also of the potter working on the clay the only difference between the potter and the clay and God in us he is the difference between the clay and us the clay is an inanimate thing it has no choice of its own it has no expression of its own whereas we as people we understand that we have a free will that means we have a choice and we have the ability to respond so that's the difference between the clay and people as the potter working on the clay and God working with us there's that difference so God is sovereign and he does work in our lives shaping and molding us just the way the potter works on the clay but in our case God's working in our lives will always have to happen recognizing in our freedom to choose and our cooperation with him otherwise we would be inanimate objects like the clay so soon as you put all of that together and say that you know how do we understand God hardening Pharaoh's heart or so we see that you know initially Pharaoh hardened his own heart and then it's coming on to say God hardened Pharaoh's heart so I think the right way just to put it in when I looked up Romans how we interpret it Romans 9 and this is how we interpreted it in the light of what Paul had already written in Romans 1 that God gave people over and in Romans 1 he mentions it three times was 24, 26 and 28 that God gave them up and it doesn't mean that God pushed them into sin but God let them go on into their the choices they were making and so when you when you look at that whole you know sequence of thought from Romans 1 to Romans 9 then you say okay you know so we must understand Romans 9 in the light of Romans 1 that that's how Paul is expressing it so then Pharaoh is the subject there so therefore we and it's safe to conclude for us that Pharaoh began by hardening his own heart and God let him continue that way and therefore when in later chapters it says God hardened Pharaoh's heart it's like okay God let him go on that way that's the way you choose I'm not going to try to persuade you otherwise I'm not going to try to move you otherwise I'll let you go your own way exactly how it's stated in Romans 1 when Paul states three times God gave them over to their own you know desires so that's what we will understand in this sense when when people are moving in a wrong direction but at the same time we've seen that God can also move upon people in a good direction meaning either bringing them into repentance or stirring them up to do his will and even the unsafe like King Cyrus and others God stirs them up moves upon them in a positive way that means he's bearing is causing his influence to bear upon their spirit and move in a positive way but it always happens but you know with their response in place God is not overriding human response overriding human will as he influences or as he gives up you know either way he may move upon us toward something good or it may take his influence off of us letting us go on into something bad in either ways always in respect respect or in recognition of our own will so that's how we will understand you know both sides that the hardening of heart or stirring up of the heart God influences us but he doesn't overwrite as he always lets us move forward with the choices we will make is that okay is that explanation okay any follow-up questions on that if you want yes sir okay all right so you have a question yeah go ahead thank you sir how can we say the same principle applies to you to Judah's career because Judah had he was stealing money from from from from from the group from Christ and beforehand he had spoken to to the leaders of the Jewish so when it came time for him to be traitors that Jesus gave him bread and the spirit entered him so could you say that God was only he used the same principle that he used it for thank you mm-hmm yeah I think it's right to say that's how God worked because you know the very fact that okay so if you look at it from God's perspective even before Jesus began his ministry God already knew that Judas would be the one who's going to betray him and yet Jesus chose these 12 which included Judas but God already knew that this one of the 12 Judas was the one who's going to betray him and Judas was part of the team you know for that three year three and a half year period he was part of the team and like you know we we said that he probably was taking money and all you know from the common pool and all of that and then at some point he conspired with the leaders to betray Jesus and God knew all of this and surely at some point it was revealed to the Son of God Jesus Christ and we know that because when he went around washing the feet and even you know at John 13 is washing the feet and you know during the what we call us a large supper he said Judas whatever you have to do go do it it's like I know what you're going to do I know it's betrayal but that's the choice he made it's not like he's God is sending him to do it but God foreknew his choice but it was his choice and God was so merciful to give him this privileged place to be with Jesus to be in the inner circle to be one of the 12 that were chosen so God was so merciful but even the God foreknew his choice but ultimately it was Judas choice that you know that he went and betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver so in that sense you know that's the same thing applies God let him do it you know so even Jesus speaking those words Judas go do what you have to do and Satan entering his heart you know driving him to do it is Judas giving giving place Judas by his will giving place to what Satan intended against Jesus yeah okay all right Christopher I see your hand please go ahead yes pastor so I I want to understand you know when there is a person who is was a hardened heart and God is allowing that person to you know to continue based on his on that on that free will but there are people who are close to this person who are who are praying for him and they're praying to God and you know they're fully aware that if the person is caught a hard and hard and in that instance you know we are people are praying for him are you know imploring God to you know to intervene and you know to to allow something you know miraculous to happen and you know change the person's heart so I wanted to understand you know how that how that would sort of you know out you know in that kind of scenario good good good question so you know when we are praying for somebody and then they are willfully going away from God against God etc we must understand that there is a period of time when sometimes they don't know themselves what they're doing or they're under deception should the devils deceive them you know devil has blinded their minds their devil has put wrong thoughts wrong ideas in their minds and they are yielding to those thoughts and so they are you know doing these things that are contrary to God's will and God's plan for their lives so that is where us interceding us engaging spiritually for them is very important we are not trying to override their personal will and we cannot we are not trying to override their choice or dictate their choice we cannot but what we can do is to break the influence that is on their minds the influence of lies deceptions ideas things that the enemy is you know bringing to bear on on their mind so that's where our prayers our intercessions are going to make a difference that we are dealing with the negative influence of the enemy and plus we are inviting the work of the Holy Spirit upon their lives through our prayer our intercession you know and through us being a witness if possible if you have the opportunity to being a close witness so they can see in our lives now Jesus Christ that's how we are going to make the difference we're not overriding their veil we are not dictating their choice but we are dealing with the influence because many times when people are going to that initial stage where you know they seem to be rebellious they seem to be you know doing something that's totally against God it's because they're confused in their minds with all the deceptions of the enemy the lies the imaginations the reasonings arguments and that's where you know Paul I mean one example which I think all of us are familiar with the second Corinthians 10 verses 4 through 6 with Paul's writing to the Corinthians and he says look you know we've got these weapons which are mighty through God which can pull down strongholds and and he's actually dealing with the things in the mind you know now he's dealing with their thoughts the imaginations the arguments of things that are exalted stuff against the knowledge of Jesus so he's dealing with that so with our with the weapons we've given we can deal with that ultimately he says in verse 6 you know having in readiness to avenge all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled that means then so through that warfare you're able to bring them to a place of obedience you know it's not that we are forcing them but we're dealing with the things now however so that's the positive part and that's why we should engage in prayer and so on intercessions so on but we must also be aware that the scriptures in both the Testaments the old and the new it's very solemn to think about this that there are times when God says don't pray stop you know example is when Samuel was praying for Saul God said Samuel don't pray anymore for Saul just don't do it I'm not gonna listen to your prayer come to the New Testament first John chapter 5 John says there's a sin unto death and I'm not saying you should pray for it or Hebrews 6 you know if a person continues on in willful sin there's no more repentance for such a person so do we know when that is no we don't do we know when a person would cross the line we don't so from our side we are going to keep praying keep interceding unless God specifically tells us hey just let go right so until that happens we are going to pray and intercede but we must understand that you know and this is what he said but sometimes people can choose to go on and on and on in rebellion and like Hebrews 6 describes it when they reach a point when there is no more repentance but that's not for us to judge right that's something we don't know only God knows and so we continue to pray trusting God for that transformation in the mind is that okay oh yes thank you and these prayers can be done for both a believer and a non-believer yeah yeah yeah so you know for believers we are using scriptures for non-believers as well and for non-believers especially in John 13 you know the whole Bible tells us when the Holy Spirit comes he will convict the world of sin righteousness and judgment that means he will convict people are not yet saved right the world he will convict them he will work on their hearts and minds he will convict them sorry this is John 16 not John 13 John 16 8 to 11 he will convict them the world of sin righteousness judgment so Lord convict this person is not saved but the Holy Spirit will do his work to convict him of sin of righteousness of judgment so you're praying and in alignment to what the Holy Spirit has come to do for the unsaved person okay all right so let's go now to the last part of the yeah okay I need to share the screen so we're gonna go to the last part of chapter 4 which we didn't have time to finish last week I just want to start this you know think about this is very very important so we we covered till here you know we said that words affect the human spirit and so we have to be careful about our words a wholesome tongue is a tree of life it can bring healing and being strength and longevity but perverseness in the tongue that's in our words it can destroy it can crush it can hurt the inner person the spirit so we did till that now I want to suggest today we have you know 20 30 minutes left and I want us to you know look at these analogies of the human spirit is very interesting because then it tells us how to take care of our spirit so what you find in scripture is that there are comparisons of the human spirit to things that we are familiar with in our world so that's what I mean by these analogies of comparisons of the human spirit and these are in the Bible so that means there is some relevance or there is some connection between the analogy of the comparison with our human spirit and some therefore we can understand from that so what are these comparisons and then therefore you know what what are things we must look at or understand about our human spirit the inner person sometimes we don't think about it but it's good to look at it so let's try to cover these you know these seven comparisons let's try to do a little quake house so first one is the house that means the human spirit your human spirit is like a house a dwelling place and you find this in the Old Testament as you've also in the New Testament Genesis 4 7 God God is actually speaking to Cain and he's saying you know now Cain has at this point what has happened is Cain has become jealous of his brother Abel he's murdered him so this is the first recorded murder Cain has killed his brother or sorry not yet he's sorry not yet he would do it but at that point Genesis 4 7 Cain is very upset he's very angry with his brother because Abel sacrifice has been accepted by God Cain has not right and Genesis 4 7 God is telling Cain Cain sin is waiting I'm paraphrasing this God says sin is waiting at your door but you must have mastery over it you must dominate it so think about it you know if you look at that Genesis 4 7 let me just read that here Genesis 4 7 it says if you do well will you not be accepted and if you do not do well sin lies at the door and its desire is for you or it's it's trying to you know towards you it's trying to get in but you should roll over it so you know God is using this picture sin is at your door it's trying to get in but you got to keep it out and what's he talking about what houses he's talking about what door is he talking about he's not talking about his you know the physical house that Cain is dwelling it's talk he's talking about the human heart the spirit and Matthew 12 Jesus himself uses the same analogy and in this case he's dealing once again with evil spirits you know he talks about casting demons out by the Spirit of God and then verse 29 he talks about you know how can you get into a strong man's house unless you first bind the strong man and then evil plunder is good so here's the house which is the human spirit the strong man which is the demonic spirit inside that house now and he's taken control of you know the things that are there but in order to you know recover control of everything inside you got to bind the strong man you got to overpower the strong man the demon spirit because this is the context that he's speaking of and then in that same chapter verses 43 to 45 he says look when unclean goes out of unclean spirit goes out of a man he's going through the dry places looking for a place to rest and then verse 24 he says I will return to my house from which I came so the spirit now you know we're talking about a demon possessed man I'll return to my house and then he says he finds the house empty sweat swept in order and so he takes seven more wicked spirits get into the house and the worst the condition ladder condition of the man is worse so the human spirit again like into a house that is can be inhabited you know so both Genesis 4 7 and Matthew 12 are dealing with the negative meaning Genesis 4 7 sin is personified and sin is waiting to get in Matthew 12 demonic spirits coming in and out of the possessed the man was possessed so that's the negative side but then the positive is also true and we know that you know in Revelation 3 verse 20 Jesus says I'm standing at the door and knocking if any man hear my voice and open the door I will come into him and I will you know eat with him and he with me so again here the human heart is like the house and in this case Jesus is sitting outside knocking on the door wanting to come in and have fellowship with the the person so our spirit is a home it's a house so you're in a person now it's an analogy to comparison right I'm not saying literally you know you literally a house it's a comparison it's something for us to think through and learn some things about so your spirit a house we can think about it as a dwelling place it's really the human spirit is the dwelling place of God himself it's a dwelling place where God puts you know the God comes to dwell a house is kept should be kept clean right we've all of us we clean our homes we keep things in order so we want to keep our home clean our house we have a right to who we love inside and we don't so of course for us as believers we want God to dwell with us to be in it's a place where God comes and he fellowships with us now that's the human spirit it's a place of dwelling it's a place of communion a place of quietness cleanliness so these are things you can think about in terms of a house a second and I want you to think about it further all right I'm just going through this this these comparisons rather quickly the second one is of a lamp right and promise 20 in verse 27 Solomon says you know the spirit of man the King James says is the candle of the Lord or is a lamp of the Lord and he searches all the inner most parts let me just read that verse 20 27 the spirit of a man is the lamp of the Lord searching all the inner depths of his heart so what is the human spirit compared to a lamp or a light a torch light if you want to look at it in modern terms it's a lamp it's a source of light now there are two things that we could say one the the psalmist says the Lord will will lighten my lamp the Lord will lighten man I think it's a psalm 18 I've got to put these scriptures down the Lord will lighten my lamp and I'll give you the exact words for finds it's very quickly here yeah it's psalm 18 and verse 28 psalm 18 verse 28 for you will light my lamp the Lord my God will enlighten my darkness so the spirit is like a lamp what do you do with a lamp you light it so psalm 18 28 psalmist says the Lord will light my lamp so that's one thing we can expect that God would give us light in our spirit he will light my lamp so it's like an enlightening coming you know now sometimes we attribute some of these things to our subconscious mind we think oh my subconscious mind is working that's how this idea came okay maybe to some extent but don't forget that your human spirit is a lamp and God can lighten it means he can give light to it and light helps you see it's like revelation coming that's one thing but Proverbs going back to verse 20 27 it also says the spirit of man is a lamp of the Lord searching the inner depths of the heart it's like God is using this lamp to search you out the picture is really you know and if you see in the cross-reference in the margin of the Bible it's like it says searching the rooms the rooms of the belly the innermost parts that's like you know you're going through every room searching using this lamp you're going from room to room to search that's the picture there and says the Lord uses your spirit to search that means when God wants to see when God wants to you know see who you really are he looks into the spirit what's really in your heart you know so he's not just looking on the outside but God looks at the heart and we know that and he uses the heart the spirit to really search us out okay this is what's really in your heart because on the outside we can have all kinds of appearances before man but God is looking and he's using the spirit of the man to search the man what's in your heart because it's a lamp of the Lord it's a lamp that the Lord uses to search out the person so the lamp so the spirit is like a lamp so think about it one God can enlighten me in my spirit but two God is using my heart to really see who I am so I gotta be careful of what's in my heart because that's the place God is going to search me not the not the outward appearances he's using my spirit as a lamp to search the rooms inside me a third analogy and I'll try to give some time for questions before you wrap this up a third analogy is a place of deposit you know this is from not your 1235 and Jesus says out of the abundant a good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things not your 12 and verse 35 says a good man are the good treasure of his heart he brings forth good things or it's the good deposit in his heart what he has put inside an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things and previously in verse 34 he said are the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks so the context is the heart is a place of deposit and what you've put in there is gonna come out so out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks and Jesus said out of the good treasure comes forth good things so the heart is a place of deposit what do you put in there that will determine what comes out of your life and it's so closely correlates with Proverbs 4 20 to 22 where God is saying my son attend to my words incline your year to my sayings let them not depart from your eyes keep them the midst of your heart for they are life to those who find them held to all their flesh then he says in verse 22 Proverbs 4 22 God your heart with all diligence for out of it come spring the issues of life so he says God your heart it's out of your heart come the you know one person would say the forces that shape your life that it's like the spring from which come things that shape your life out of it come the issues of life the matters of life spring out of your heart so it's a place of deposit you saw Matthew 12 34 35 what you put in there is going to come out very similarly Proverbs 4 22 God says put my word in your heart because out of it come the forces that shape your life it's like a spring where the water that flows out of it you know becomes a mighty river and you could you know it could become a huge river but your heart is like that it's the first source out of your hearts come the forces that shape your life so be careful what you put in there so both this place of deposit and the spring analogies or comparisons are telling us that you know what we put inside our spirit is going to shape our lives and we have control on what we put inside because that treasure doesn't happen by accident you determine what goes in there and Proverbs 4 he says you guard your heart with all diligence that means you're like the watchman to your heart and you're letting what goes into their heart and then that's going to spring out in John 7 it's a very interesting passage where Jesus talked about the Holy Spirit and he's talking about you know out of your belly or your innermost person will flow rivers of living water which of course he refers to as the the power of the Holy Spirit but in verse 38 the word that is translated heart is the word is a Greek word that often use is often used to talk about the womb John 7 verse 38 where the English Bible says out of his heart will flow reverse of living water it's not a wrong translation just that it's talking about the inner person the spirit so translating it as heart is perfectly right but the literal word is also also means womb that's what interesting that the heart would be considered like a womb it's a place where conception takes place and things grow and from there come forth so out of your womb will flow the power of the Holy Spirit the Spirit of God will be released so the human spirit is also compared to a womb a place of conception where the things of the Spirit are birthed and released last two of course we've we know this it's the ground Matthew 13 which is in the parable of the soul of the seed is sown on good ground on good ground Jesus tells us you know it's sown in the heart so the heart is like a ground or a field but things can be sown and then you have a harvest that means I can intentionally so things into my heart and reap a harvest 30 fold 64 or 100 fold so the harvest that you want to see in your life will come out of what you're sowing into your spirit and this is in line with you know what we're reading Galatians 6 you know it says if you sow to the spirit you'll reap off the spirit if you sow to the flesh you'll reap off the flesh so the heart is a place where you can sow good seeds and reap a good harvest or if we don't sow or we sow bad seeds then that's what's going to happen and the last comparison that we see in scripture that I just want to point out is in second Corinthians 3 and 3 Paul is ready the Corinthians and he says you know you are an episode ministered by us so you're saying you are letters that we have written if you want to put it in simple English right he's telling the Corinthian believers you are letters that we have written he says okay where did you write what did you write he says you are letters that we have written not ministered with ink not written on tablets of stone that means it's not that we're writing on natural things with natural means but he says it's been written on he's references as fleshly tables of the heart or it's written on your spirit not by ink but by the spirit of the living God so here in second Corinthians 3 3 the human spirit is compared to you know something you write on in those days Paul was comparing to you know tables or something that you're you know tablets of stone or tables on which something is written in modern terms you would you know think about paper or you know a document whatever something that you write but he's saying I'm writing on your spirit and by the spirit of the living God that means things can be imparted to our spirit or if you want to think in terms of other people you can write into the hearts of other people or they can write into your heart that means they are leaving an indelible impression in your spirit them they're mocking you in your spirit they're imparting to your spirit they conveying truth to your spirit whatever you know however you want to you know talk about it but the human spirit is a place where things can be inscribed imprinted that you can capture by the Holy Spirit so think about this for your own personal self you are a house your spirit is a house it's a lamp it's a place of deposit it's from where things come out of your life it's a womb from where you can see even birth things of God it's a ground where you're so into and you can reap in your life and it's a place where things can be written upon so what are you letting be right be written upon in your spirit and think about in a personal self and think about it for the people that we minister to they are a house they are a lamp get a place of deposit their spirit is a spring the spirits of womb their spirit is a ground their spirit is a table where you can write upon so when you minister to them minister from that perspective okay let me pause here let's take some time for questions and then maybe you know we could we could continue this further next week if we need to or move into a new chapter let me see now Abraham is the same is this the same as an empty vessel that must be filled with their good or bad things yeah so you could look at it also as a vessel as a container that's a good analogy Paul writes about this in Second Corinthians 4 that we are earthen vessels that the excellence of the power maybe of God and not from us so we could compare it that way as a house that must be filled or as an earthen vessel that must be filled that's fine right Matthew 12 29 is he referring to the devil the strong man yeah so in Matthew 12 29 Jesus you know how can you bind the strong man so if you look at verse 28 it's actually he's actually just constant evil spirit out by the Holy Spirit so the strong man he has referred to as the evil spirit that's controlling the other person you know he's pictured as a bully as a strong man as an oppressor who's gone in and taken control of that person's house that is the spirit the human spirit so the evil spirit has gone in and taken control of the human spirit gone into the human spirit of the man and taken control so Jesus you know you we have to bind the strong man get rid of him yeah okay so any other questions on this when he comes he finds empty sweat going on yeah so Christopher's question is from the latter part of Matthew 12 so so what happens is you know when an evil spirit is expelled out of the house the house is empty doors are open nobody else is inside there to protect the house right so what does he do and if he finds the house empty he goes and gets reinforced when it comes back in right so what we need to do is when we minister deliverance we need to get that person to receive Christ so that Christ can come in and be and so that his person can be filled with the Holy Spirit and so his house is occupied by somebody greater right that's the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit and so then when the evil spirit tries to come back cannot enter why already occupied the greater one is dwelling there yeah Christopher yes bastard so I was just trying to think through this you know aspect of developing the human spirit and it's it's it's state in that development process where because it needs to be developed is it is it a is it in a weak state is it in a in an evil state and how would how could how can we represent or how can we describe the human spirit in in in its in its stages of development where it has to get strengthened it has to be in alignment with with with God and thereby you know it positively influence the soul and the body is it so my question is in that development process would it be right to say that it is going through this refinement process but in that different process it is also in a sense evil because it's not you know I mean it may have things that are not of God so okay so let's look at it let's you know we draw a distinction between the unregenerate or the person who's not born again and a person who has been born again right so let's talk about a person who has been born again so when the human spirit is born again one of the analogies we used and I think in the earlier and one of the earlier chapters is that of being a baby being a young person and being a father or mother so John brings this out right we saw in from first John chapter 2 like he says you know he calls them your children he calls them young men and they call them fathers so these are spiritual comparisons of where they are spiritually so for a believer there's this human spirit intrinsically is not evil because we are born again we have a life in the nature of God which we have mentioned earlier but there has to be growth spiritual growth meaning just like how we saw this comparison I think that's a good comparison being children being young and being fathers and mothers so it's a growth in maturity it's a growth in strength it's a growth in responsibility and in these comparisons we can draw from human side as well we can understand it so that's the growth and in this process of course we want to keep all the wrong things away right so that's what the Bible says you know to guard our hearts to cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit because the sin would sin would try to attach itself an impaired growth so you if you want to think of sin we can think of it as some sort of a sickness that hinders the development of the person and so that's a good comparison to do it you think of the unregenerate unregenerate person then you think about death and life you think about darkness and light which we have seen before that when we are without Christ we are dead spiritually it's the absence of the life of God but when we are born again we come we receive the life of God or we are in darkness under the control of Satan but then now we come into light to the kingdom of God so those are comparisons you know to describe what is happening in the spirit the human spirit so then how does it how does this explain you know a person who is born again and who is leading a degenerate life maybe through self-deception or you know what is what is his you know how clean is that spirit of his how clean is that human spirit of his so one I would I would I would look at two things one is I would look at the mind that there is a lot of deception in the mind you know so when you think about a believer somebody's born again but living a messed up life it's like hey this person's born again but it's living like this what could be wrong well one is mind they haven't renewed the mind to the body the flesh they haven't crucified the flesh right so these are the two problem areas the mind and the flesh but what would be the condition of the spirit the spirit would be contaminated right because these things are attaching itself to the spirit and that's what we need to cleanse ourselves from it but this person is not doing it and he may not even be in proper fellowship with God because all of these sin would hinder the fellowship with God but that's the state of a person who has received Christ but is being controlled by carnality you know carnal minds and flesh is that okay Christopher yeah okay all right so we will I think we will probably touch upon some of these things ahead coming up ahead as well so it should become a clear let's dismiss now I we've taken five minutes into our into our break time so we will dismiss please take a quick break and I will see you in our next class thank you everyone I hope you are learning everybody's very quiet so I am not sure but I think you're getting these things they continue thank you thank you thank you everyone see you in the next class shortly bye now