 To summarize whatever we've learned so far, because we mainly focus on cities, or we try at least within this podcast. You now live in Biharitz, let's imagine that you're the mayor of Biharitz, and with your degrowth stick, what would be some of the steps or how would you translate your knowledge into some actions or into some, let's say initiatives that you would rally citizens and companies and people within Biharitz. Economic growth, the way I conceptualize it, is like an engine that's self-amplifying. So for me, degrowth is about stopping the engine. It's an engine of production, an engine of consumption, both self-amplifying. So as the mayor of Biharitz, I would just ban advertising in the street, like it's been done in Grenoble and several other fifth cities. I would also constrain not only public advertising, but also as much as I can online advertising, and let's say every single pressure to consume having to do with publicity or planned obsolescence would become banned or heavily taxed or whatever tools. So here we can shrink the engine of consumption. To do this as well, I would want to rethink consumption through the lens of well-being, being like, okay, I'm the mayor of Biharitz. How can the people of Biharitz be happy in their daily lives without having to consume going to the mall? And then you realize that actually keeping a forest in good shape and public park, and developing the infrastructure around surfing so that it's available to an affordable for people to do, same thing with... So giving people option to find ways of entertaining themselves, meeting, relating to each other without having to rely on consuming every time more commodities. Here we're constraining consumption. Then I'll go hard on production too. I'll be like starting by doing democratic inventories in the city of the type of activities we want, the type of activities we don't want. So that's like local industrial policy. I'm a surfer, I surf every day. The pollution is there. We have the harbor of Bayon issues related to overfishing and mass transport of good. The water is very often polluted. So here it's an experience of in a city that is just close to the ocean, you have to have this relation to nature. So now I would want to bring that discussion, okay, we are a coastal city. And we also, we are a city that is producing things to, you know, goods and services that need to satisfy our needs. How do these two cohabit? There are certain things that actually can identify as being like low well-being, high ecologically intensive product that we could phase out. So I would like, yeah, these are the type of things. And then to do this, it starts with work time reduction. Because how can you have these discussions? How can you mobilize people into organizing alternative forms of economy if they're just too busy working in a, for a company, most of the time working, producing things that don't directly consume or don't have a lot of fun producing. So this is overall, I think, and to develop a bit more of the link with cities, when we're thinking of democratizing the economy, it necessarily means relocalizing production and consumption. Necessarily, because if you want to have a democratic forum where, you know, producers and consumers and all the people that are kind of bearing the consequences of that production and consumption, they can all be in the same room, then you minimize the risk of exploitation. Because at some point I'm going to be like, dude, listen, I'm surfing every day and you cleaning your boats of oil just straight on my spot. It's just not cool. But if the boat is cleaning, you know, their oil like in a faraway country, we never see and care, it makes it way easier for us not to care about. So relocalizing and productive activities is a way of somehow bringing them back within the realm of democracy. And then there are many other tools to do this local currencies is a great way because that also repoliticize money in the sense of today money is the bank have monopoly in creating and destroying it. But with local currencies, we can have local monetary policy where we decide somehow to use the money to invest into new sectors to create new money to boost or stimulate certain activities like with time banks that we're not finding any finance and funds under a normal capitalist economy. So here's a few changes that probably make everyone realize I do a terrible job at being the mayor. So this is not a new official application. But if the mayor of Yards does want to hear my recommendation, I'll be more than happy to look into it.