 We're all just really excited to talk about our favorite show, WandaVision. I cannot wait. It's such a sad timeline. Just give me like five minutes and we will get the preamble going just to make sure everything's running. But I don't think anyone is here to be like, oh, WandaVision. It was such an awesome show, right, guys? I'm so excited. I haven't hated women in weeks. Yeah. Finally. I can't wait to just be myself. We can radicalize some more youth. I can try to charade. Oh, yeah, that was fun. The article is like, uh, alt-right. Oh, we got a lot of reviewers. Yeah, you got a comment on that. Well, I mean, I put out a tweet saying, fuck you. So I feel like that covers it. Yeah. It's so pathetic. Like the portion on me is like, what do they say I'm an alt-right associate or something? It's like, fuck. Alt-right adjacent. Yes. You got too close to the alt-right. Yeah. You're kind of looking across the street at them and going. Right, lads. Oh, they look like dead ones. They're tight. The alt-right doesn't invite you to your birthday parties, but... Yeah. You're looking at the alt-right from your treehouse just from across the street. They smoke like they do. I want to hang out in the treehouse. They don't want me. Cool enough. Maybe if I have that Batwoman for green. No girls and no blacks allowed. You're the person that they just send down to the shop to get the snacks. Yeah, they're never quite like that. No mallers, that's what they say. No mallers. Yeah, no harmers. But they have the one in there. Yeah, that's right. We have one maller. We have one. What does it say? Homeaglubkit or something? It's like a really dumb name. Yep. You got it. Simpsons references. Yeah, there is absolutely no reason why we shouldn't just get started because this could take a little time. I'm going to make sure everybody gets their thoughts and feelings out, you know? What I should say is welcome to EFAP 129. All ye who be here now or in the future upload. We're joined by... I'll go from left to right. Mr. Az from Heal Vs Babyface, how are you doing, sir? I'm doing good. Thank you for having me on, sir. Oh, absolutely. It's going to be fun. We've got so much to talk about. By that I mean myself, Rags, Ned Rotigan and yourself. We all discussed previously a few, I want to say a month ago or something. We were enjoying WandaVision. Wasn't that a... That was the same? Yes. I was like the first five episodes of Think That Were Great and then the final four I was like, God, this is dog shit. Yeah, well, things changed, I guess. Mr. CJ, Cynical Reviews, how do you do? Hello, good thank you. Thanks for having me on again. Good thank you to you too. That was a funny way to say it, really. Did you watch this show with a passing interest or you might do a video? Well, I mostly watched it because everybody was talking about it and I didn't want to seem ignorant. But no, I think I'm kind of the same. I enjoyed it at first and thought it was really interesting and then I think it was... The fourth episode where it started to go downhill. Yeah, I think that's fair. Now I'm just kind of like... Evan is next up. Sir, how do you do, Mr. Blue and Rainy, depressed person? Is that reflective of your attitude toward this show? That's probably a good way to put it, yeah. Blue and Rainy and depressed, yeah. Not very happy with how it turned out. Fringy, returning to talk about superhero stuff. Jogging, how do you do, sir? I'm tired. I play games like three hours. I prefer to think of you saying I'm tired about just media. Well, it's life in general. I just saw this on Twitter. Since this has been going for so long, Homer did not grow up in the 70s. He grew up in the 90s. Oh, I saw that. This is like hell for me. Just kill it. I don't have any timeline issues for how long they've gone. Wait, hang on. Abe would have to be like... They'd have to age him up, I guess, right? Yeah, because if they started in... 1999. Oh, so was Homer a kid in the first episode? No, no. The flashbacks had him in the 70s as a kid, but now the flashbacks have to push him up because it wouldn't make sense. He's still in his 30s. He's still in his 30s. Eventually, his childhood would be in the 2010s. It would be so interesting. Bart was born in 2011 now. Yeah. Homer's a millennial? Yeah. What? He's one of us. One of us. Do you remember that meta episode they made where they had Lisa say that the producers of the show made them all take growth inhibiting hormones or something? Anti-growth hormones. They wanted to keep them the same age. Oh, God. Well, it's plain a lot. It's when your investment in maintaining... getting rid of them plot holes starts to get scary. I don't think I've watched The Simpsons in 20 years. It hasn't been good in 20 years, so... Oh, okay. I remember Molo got me to watch a new episode from this year. It was surreal. It was absolutely surreal. Watching Modern Simpsons. It wasn't terrible, though. Which is kind of the crazy part. It wasn't awful. There was some jokes away. But it is odd to watch it when your idea of Simpsons comes from the 90s. The 90s, yeah. You watch the new one and you're like, it's so uncanny. Exactly. Sound tired. The person who played Marge is like 60. Oh, Lisa. That show's been renewed for two more seasons. Wow. It will never die, let's be honest. Never the cast will. Yes. Yeah, but then they'll clone their voices using like machine learning or something. They'll take voice lines from all the episodes over all the seasons and just put them together. Oh, yeah. Get an algorithm. Yeah. That would be horrible. Make sure we don't miss you last three. Gary, welcome to EFAP once again. Let's talk about WandaVision. How are you doing, buddy? I'm good. I was taking a bite of toast there. I'm really happy. Exciting. Isn't it, though? I'm feeling radical today. Thank you very much. Totally radical. Very 90s. That's very nice. Jalabunga, dude. Jalabunga is very, very radical. Welcome to EFAP. How are you doing? Oh, hi. I'm glad to finally be on. Yeah. I'm glad that my inaugural episode is going to be some MCU property full of incredible quality with a lovable cast of characters and intuitive events that follow. One after the other in an interesting causative effect way. It's logical. So excited. We're in the middle of a DC arc and we're getting a lot of MCU shills. I'm curious if they'll keep that up after this episode, but it's fine. I'm curious if after this, after we constantly say that half of the MCU is really bad. They'll continue to say it. The MCU is probably going to be really bad going forward. We can talk about that. Last but not least, Mr. The meme repository. Not an awkward title for Mr. at all. How are you doing, Mr. Mann? It's really fucking early, but besides that, I'm going okay. I'm here to talk about my favorite show of all time, WandaVision, involving these two wonderful characters who used to be my favorite characters in the MCU. An important emphasis on the used to be after this shit. That's unfortunate. Was that of all of them, or was that of living ones at the time? Wait, I don't know. You don't prefer like Iron Man or Cap or Thor or anything? Well, it's kind of like I split up who I consider the best characters and who I find the most interesting and I always found that the idea of this robot that was brought to life, was like very sincere and was just trying to figure things out very compelling and I also found the idea of their love story to be quite interesting. So I wanted to see where does this go? I kind of wanted to see a Wanda and Vision movie after Ultron, especially after Civil War. It looked like I was finally getting what I wanted and I was like, no, I was not. We got something else which I guess should lead us into because this is going to be a free-for-all but I guess general blurbs I wouldn't mind opening about just thoughts on this show I'm going to open with probably not a hot take but still a spicy take and this is agreed upon by some people here already I already know that but Wanda Vision as a show not great. Episode 9 single worst piece of content in the MCU How does everyone feel about that? Interesting. I don't know what else could give it competition I mentioned this yesterday on the south podcast but I'm like what other piece has less quality there's no scenes to grab onto in that finale, this is good there's something broken in every single scene It devolves into generally this is for an e-fap or some place I don't know it's all a blur but you have what's sort of referred to as this Marvel sludge of just things sort of happening and characters doing stuff and superheroes performing actions and it's all just like a mix like it's been thrown into a blender but instead of creating a yummy delicious smoothie that everyone can enjoy it's just like this mix of concrete and radioactive fuel and it's horrific and it's terrible It's worse than Captain Marvel guys Yeah, this is Captain Marvel is comprehensible Like this film has this film, this episode like breaks reality Many times over there is so many things to talk about. I did a rewatch it was painful there's so much we can do but I want to make sure everyone gets a word in there Gary as? What do you guys reckon on this show as a whole? I thought it was great up until the reveal of Evan Peters as the Fox's Quicksilver I thought you were going to say up until the first episode It was our first episode studied until the first episode The intro was great and I thought right this is great because now we're going to go to the next level we've had this wonderful journey through sitcoms throughout the years giving their takes on them with this little sinister undertone and I thought it was fantastic and I loved the relationship between wonder and vision I thought it was so tight the chemistry was phenomenal between the two actors and I thought the acting was top notch and then as soon as Evan Peters was now revealed it just got really generic because then it started to concentrate more on the sword stuff and that was terrible and they split wonder and vision away from each other and they were the best part of the show the peak of doing something wonders of doing something and then you realize that the show was those two characters together and you take them apart and there was not a lot there at all they get separated at the peak of their drama we're finally getting something in terms of vision becoming self aware of this situation and then he fucks off for the half a season and it's like he forgets after that there's never any addressing what wonder did after that you were lying to me let's fight, let's save our kids it feels like there's scenes missing they have their big argument then he goes off and nearly dies and then he flies back and is like let's fight a clone of me and this weird witch lady he doesn't have any questions at all about what's happening I had too many questions yeah the show has devolved unfortunately into that kind of it's gotten down to the kind of the worst of the DCEU where it's just like actual nonsense it's impossible to know what the stakes are anymore at one point in one division you're just waiting for them to tell you what happened because there's no way you could know I just need something my eyes need verification as to what they've actually witnessed because we have gone off the rails nothing matters anymore what I see doesn't mean anything anymore and that's the death sentence for a plot are the things that I'm seeing is it even matter what I'm looking at are you just gonna tell me something later and that's just gonna be that it wasn't until the last episode that I was like oh the children are like we care about them? I thought they were fake yeah I thought the whole point was that they're fake I thought that the realization was gonna be that she invented them because of her psyche falling apart not that they're actually a thing that we should care about not that we have to use them as a tool to show how evil our antagonist is in the way that we forced him to be evil is yeah that goodbye was really weird when she's like saying goodbye to our kids and tucking them into bed I'm like am I supposed to feel happy for this they're not real and she knows they're not real she can disassemble and reassemble them at will like I don't they've been alive for like a week so it's like how could you call them real kids they haven't really lived a life oh they're not real if they're a week old wow wow wow okay that's how it starts the fever the rage the cold cool my list of psycho hats yeah I figure the format should probably be that we go through chronologically as best we can and you're welcome to jump ahead at any point I wouldn't want to restrict anybody on that but you know I would also like to try and compliment the show where possible there were things I'm sure everyone here agrees there were things that you were like oh there were things like when they played the Batwoman thing there were a lot of things I mean if you go back Smith-Rolton was phenomenal I thought yeah Paul Bennie was great but re-watching it I tried to re-watch it again too knowing well having seen the ending and it just makes the entire show suck now I mean there's good parts of it but yeah when you feel like something's it's built well I thought it was building up to something I was an idiot obviously for buying into it I was building up to something disappointment disappointment it was building up to everything everything happens all the things new powers, new characters, new heroes, new villains new stuff new lessons learned and new lessons forgotten vision shows up yeah well white vision toxic white vision shows up to so the men can fight the men and the women can fight the women can fight as it should be segregation is thing to do did you like how white vision like realized that he was now vision and then just fucked off that was my favorite part when I have a wife and kids not only did he fuck off but Wanda also each individual of that relationship that cared very much about each other each fucked off in separate ways well Rags this is one of the things that baffles me vision never tells Wanda that he gave all of vision's memory to vision bot no yeah in vision bot now with those memories never said I wonder what happened to that woman I love I'm alive I've actually put my consciousness or downloaded my consciousness into that white vision so I am out there darling come find me that might have been comforting for her to know as he was literally disintegrating before her eyes Wanda my contract has been renewed I'm back in the MCU I think white vision fucked off though because he needed to try and work out what the fuck that story was about the ship in a highly advanced AI needed time to process the story there was the part in there was a Doctor Who episode where Doctor Who gave a similar analogy and the answer was completely different he's like if you have a broom and you have a handle and you replace the handle and then you replace the broom part and you do that over and over is the same broom no it's not whereas in this one it was like yes it is the same ship and no it's not the same ship at the same time no it's not the same ship you replace everything it's because the writer heard of that thing that one time and they tried to find a way to fit that into the show so they would seem super clever and cool that's the entire show this ship is like baby's first philosophy it's like what you learn even before you start doing a philosophy degree like it's one of the oldest and most simple philosophical problems and yes there's no there's no distinct answer to it because it depends on your interpretation but it's still the most entry level shit that they're trying to make themselves sound smart with I read that book too that makes sense considering how much extensive experience this writer had which was none well they wrote what did they write a short film that they probably self produced before this and then they wrote she helped with Captain Marvel and she's writing Black Widow yep oh fuck rip mcu and in her recent interview she intimated that it was actually Feige all this sitcom stuff which is the stuff that most people seem to have liked and it was her that did the sword stuff which most people tend to hate oh shock of all shocks yeah I've lived to say I've ruined Kevin Feige's story yeah I feel like it's very concerning how a lot of heroes are becoming as well like it's uh what are our stakes going to be when we've got like Monica Rambo is indestructible and like Scarlet Witch is like Ben's reality to our will like what can you imagine Avengers 4 right now like the power dynamics of the individual characters it's going to be insane to balance yep I don't know if uh your mic levels are at but I think you're going to get drowned out I have you at 200 I have you at the max and you're still pretty quiet compared to everyone else let me get let me get it closer to the mic there we go is that better I'll ask him off for a knee it's a little better Kevin Feige uh recently came out and said uh that Scarlet Witch is going to be the Iron Man of the next phase are you serious yeah so Captain Marvel's been demoted that's the good news well I mean that's I don't know if that's good news that's not really it's not um wonder was more powerful than a sorcerer supreme yes they threw that at there just to be like she's real powerful by the way yeah okay fuck that guy but we don't even know Dr. Stranger's limits how what are we meant to quantify from well when you have someone like a doctor stranger or a sorcerer supreme when you see what they can do and you're like oh well this one's more powerful than that one you're like can they be it looks like they're both pretty high up there like I don't even one can it's the superhero uh-huh it's the he doesn't have the time to say that the uh like the infinite amount of numbers between one and two is smaller than the infinite amount of numbers between one and ten but it comes across as okay like sure almost childish because of the way she's like more powerful you're like do you saying it like my character's lasers are bigger than your mind yeah it can be to be here yes really like yeah it's Calvin ball but with superheroes quite concerned about because I think it's pretty clear when you look at like the MCU that there are some distinct like almost bubbles of stories that they're working on at the moment so like clearly there's some multiverse stuff that's going to be happening which is probably going to be a disaster but it's like that's almost like where the only characters I'm interested in anymore are like spider-man and Dr. Stranger it's just them you want to shit over one of your characters who still got a movie up and coming why would you want to diminish them well I mean yeah I guess what I was yes so like we've got that and then there's clearly going to be like the Captain Marvel cosmic bubble that they're setting up and like that to me is quite concerning as well because like I all it's going to be incredibly powerful like they're all so powerful that I'm like I'm not even sure what the stakes are going to be in this I mean I think I think I read an article and it was written like a year ago that correctly correctly suggested that there was going to be a secret invasion show and the idea was it was all going to be leading to like some kind of A4 so what's the name of Captain Marvel's like flight group whatever in the alpha flight twitter yeah it was going to be bad I was going to have like all of these brand new characters that are getting set up on this like and that the plot was going to be that some evil alien force can possess only men so they have to assemble a team oh please make this please please please I'll be good all year I promise I won't radicalize anyone imagine all the articles they can write about us I wouldn't radicalize anyone I promise anything could be good but if that's true like alright don't think Captain Marvel know or I don't think Marvel their writers I don't think they know what good is no not anymore the morals are gone I'm glad they borrowed Patty Jenkins moral barometer why are we in the age of superheroes doing incredibly villainous things like why is this a thing what's happening it's everywhere Man of Steel was prophetic well it's just that it's not addressed that's my issue I'm like you can have them do bad things they're like morally like reprehensible but you got to address that you can't just like give them a pass I like I never know what you sacrifice is I hate that line everyone should hate that line it's the worst anyone that's had anyone close to them that's died knows exactly what she's going through so it's bullshit so I get to go kidnap an entire town we'll see next time the problem is usually accountability right she says I'm sorry like explicitly to Monica and it's like okay but that's just the beginning wonder and then the police arrive and she goes well I'm out and it's like no no no come back I apologize to Monica I apologize to the town look at this in the context I mean we just had Civil War and like this is a whole reason again to do a superhero registration act now the most dangerous superhero running you know fucking off into the mountains to become more dangerous they have totally forgotten about Civil War in this it never happened it never existed the Sokovia Cords aren't a thing they totally just said fuck that they mention the Sokovia Cords once in the show but they also don't care about the Sokovia Cords at all it's so weird like wasn't she meant to be on the run in Civil War and Infinity War and then she just walks into the sword headquarters and they're like oh hey she's already a vigilante right and she was put away into the raft or whatever then the fight with Thanos happens she gets blipped out, blipped back and they've forgotten about everything and then she also takes an entire town hostage thousands of people I mean in universe we're gonna get a smog Ross face fuck they did say though that when Cap broke them out you know like Clint hunted himself in and hunted himself in so they got themselves a deal so it looks like they were like okay we know you're out we'll kind of cut you a deal well I'd be willing but we didn't get any of that unfortunately I think it would have been a great scene to have like the reintegration of Wanda into the world while also trying to deal with Vision being dead at the same time and like all this corporate stuff while also just like stressing out about the fact that she's alone or like her biggest rock is gone sort of thing we don't get any of it we just have it barging in and Heywood I'm trying to figure out how to talk about this Heywood is one of the most hilarious villains in anything he's awful I'm a bad guy and there's no real reference I mean their relationship was good in the show because the act the act the performances were better than the writing by far varying degrees and at least for me I mean my context for the relationship is completely from the comics I didn't see enough in the films what context do we have of a Wanda and Vision relationship in the movies actually like how much actual screen time was there was it and like honestly it's been a couple years since I've seen Civil War but is it like three minutes well I was talking about this I actually think the best scene I don't know if this is going to be a hot take now but the best scene for the relationship that I've seen is probably in the show it's that one scene from episode eight where Vision explains to what grief at least what he understands grief to be it was a really good foundation for arguing why she might have fallen for him and we needed to waste more time showing the Mind Stone flash this cool costume and everybody on Twitter to say like oh wow look the costume it's that's what that's what everything is made for now that's I mean it also Blame said Haywood did nothing wrong not a single thing he did was a crime we'll get into just he destroyed children there are things shot in between two fake children fake children though fake children I would argue the show condemns every action he takes I condemn a handful of actions he takes most of them I'm on board with though and he's vilified throughout and it's really annoying Tyler was right he was just terrible he's an excellent example of a super like he was an antagonist but his his ascension into villain hood felt extremely rushed I feel like it's very much the same sort of thing that happened with Obadiah in Iron Man 1 he was nowhere near as good as Obadiah but Obadiah in the third act sort of becomes villain like it's just like I'm going to get into the suit and cause havoc it's like what are you doing Obadiah to what end what are you you had a pretty good life before and of course he's trying to create big old weapons to sell in the black market whatever you're like okay money money money but then it's just like I've been found out time to time to go Godzilla style and you're like and yeah Hayward is similar we can get to it again I'm not even sure exactly what subjects we should jump to because it feels much more flowy to just jump from bigger topic to bigger topic then try and catch up as we go but I want to say the sitcom stuff was cool just as an idea doing like specific intros having like particular sound effects and visual effects per era although it was the color grading aspect ratio even the film quality and the sound quality were different the dialogue was different sets and costumes and even the pacing I would say like for the stories they seemed to put a lot of effort into trying to capture those eras and that's like you know what that's cool and the jokes are pretty good too like the comedy inside of those it feels kind of like those classic sitcoms they changed the comedy style to a degree as well hit and miss for me I found some jokes pretty funny I found some of them was just like alright that was a joke I guess but the jokes felt authentic to the era they pretty much nailed the feel of all those sitcoms that they were trying to emulate I think that it probably became less less focused as it went on though like the first three were really emblematic of like the eras but then as it went on it started to become a little bit more like loose almost the sitcom thing just ended I kind of remember exactly where it ended but I think it was when she walked into the room in place right that's where we stopped having sitcom stuff well remember there's just that there's just that throwaway line where I think Hayward says like she canceled the show it's like when did that happen well I think when they were getting into the 90s they were kind of just sort of wrapping it up I got the sense that they just wanted to get out of it and move along it wasn't working anymore having you know like the documentary style where you have them talk about the scenes that they're in candidly like on a set sort of thing they weren't working like vision it's like what am I even doing here why am I talking to it's just for the show that's funny but like that doesn't make any sense yeah that's his recognition that should have been his deep recognition wait a second as soon as he got pulled out and pulled back in the sitcom shit should have just been dead like it should have been his scrambling to try and fix it but like they just start this episode where he's trying to drive with annoying screechy voice lady and he's like oh it's so annoying that things keep getting in the way of our car it's like you can fly dude you can fly oh yeah I can fly it's the Mando shit like oh yeah that's right Mass literally can't stop me I just remembered I can do that it's a beautiful feature uh terrible so I have a question about the sitcom sorry gone so this is something I've so there might be a throwaway line that I missed that explain this but did they ever like explain why Wanda was broadcasting like her life you know sitcom style in the first place like not just her perception of everything like why there was an actual fee it was just like it was implied it was implied just implied with that flashback in the seventh episode eight that way I can't remember what episode but yeah her family watching those sitcoms that was pretty much it well isn't it because it's part of her trying to recreate these sitcoms so to transmit it's just uh it just does I mean yeah but I guess it's part of the experience of it being a show is that it would be broadcast but like the mechanics of all of that and then who does like she wants people to be watching this rather than simply creating it for herself I don't know if she wants people to be watching it as just she's doing it but why it's just for herself why would she be broadcasting it for herself well it's like when you upload a video to YouTube you know some people just do it for themselves regardless of whether or not people are gonna watch it however that's a conscious decision that I choose to make and that's a lot of effort compared to me in upload like she has to maintain a frequency specific remember this doesn't work on normal TVs either it only works on the era specific TV which again I don't even know how that works I don't know how that works why do you need the specific TV well luckily our chick that we just brought in figured it out basically immediately when no one else did so good the astrophysicist knows how television works that was a bit weird yeah she knows more than most she remember she hacks into the security of of sword it's like wait you're an astrophysicist she's a science lady she does the science things we need women in stem moller well okay she's so good remember those other people they brought in we never see them again they're all just I guess they were useless I don't know oh yeah yeah cat dannings is like the perfect swiss army knife for our good guy team to do everything she needs to do of a she's struck pressed air into his mic he's raised right he's trying to get himself into the system he was hacking into the sword I can't hear anymore there's blood coming out of here oh where's cat dannings when you need her I remember him the line was it was background radiation mixed with a tv signal or some shit like that I'm gonna add him back in there's a huge dome preventing anything from getting in and out prepared to lower his volume to as low as 1% because I'm gonna add him back in okay okay I'm scared what oh what a god to him alright I've got him down to 20% rags blink twice if you're being held hostage Jesus fucking Christ rags everything if you can hear us your microphone is making horrifying noises we just entered a horror film by the way he shot on cat dannings this is what you get is this how I get greeted for my first episode of evap with horrendous slender man fucking I just want to defend cat dannings is a beautiful paratix really that's true this is a family friendly show so what would it matter what does it matter with a cracking personality how about that now I'm gonna turn you back up man hold up we're gonna try something here alright is that better sounds like okay alright well I don't know what happened but I'm just glad we all made it out okay Disney came to you I think so yeah I was talking about Darcy right how she's just the best she's amazing she's sassy she's always correct she's just so, she's just man with the quips like a machine gun with all that sass and she's so smart and she knows the answer to everything and she figures it all out so quickly and that voice of an angel that she has it's so pleasant to listen to scraping nails down a chalkboard oh my god she's got a mean right hook too hey hey Disney man what's that I'm gonna drive this ice cream track yeah and I like oh no go on I was gonna say did anybody actually like any of the characters outside the dome no not really now but funny you say that because I think monica was so much more like engaging and fun to watch when she was under mind control which the optics on that I wish she'd stayed in the dome that could have been interesting yeah she was the great character into the dome and then she knocked out the dome and she turned into a right babe I like the idea that there were people in the dome there were people in the dome that were breaking the conditioning but were aware that if they allowed that to be known that their minds would be put back in and so they do their best to conform while also trying to figure out how to escape I thought that could have been a really cool plot line I could have explored because remember when Agnes is like oh do you want me to do that again it's like ooh I want more of that well I wanted more of the universe falling apart slowly that was the interesting aspect of it was the fact that monica sorry Wanda was trying so hard to keep this world that she had created together and yet everything was just happening that things were falling off there were just bits of the car that just kept falling off and she was losing control monica Rambo was starting to get some of the memories Agnes of course who's in on everything was realised that some lines were fluffed and says hey should we do that again vision not understanding why he's at certain places the people at work not understanding the jobs there were so many interesting aspects to explore within the dome never flushed out such a shame you got the most generic of generic bollocks outside the dome with sword it was so mundane for all the interesting aspects which they set up and not paid off under the dome it really did just turn into a the show which started out with such an incredibly interesting premise just evolved into meh grey sludge of a show where you just have all of these characters who are just doing things and nothing that you see matters really stuff just happens there's no real plan it feels like they were making the show up as they were going along they should have gone harder on the like horror elements and they did kind of hint at that a little bit but I think they kind of they pushed it out of doing it properly maybe because they realized I'll wait kids might be watching this the horror elements were only really in those first couple of episodes I really like the boss choking and the wife is just saying stop it that's really weird and you're like okay what's going on very creepy but then there isn't much like that outside of those first two or three episodes basically the dead vision was growing up to that really creeped me out I didn't expect that and what was that from it was just one of his projection it was just one of his projection because I thought that's what his body really looked like I thought she was an anime in him and then we had the dead Evan he also when she looked at him he was dead and riddled with bullets we need this we need this to explain is it agnus like just being a bit of a twat I imagine most of you guys here enjoyed that moment in episode 1 because episode 1 is very it's probably the most sectioned off from anything we know from the MCU it's almost like a goof it's just like look at this weird thing we made but then when he starts choking you know the 50s voice of like well hello there how are you doing today oh I need to do like that sort of thing it drops and she's like vision help him in that brief moment you're like oh my god I can't wait to fight out like how everything is functioning right now especially with um she says um oh stop it but over and over again and she looks like she's tearing up while looking at Wanda saying it like asking Wanda to stop it and then when Wanda looks at it she starts laughing again like don't hit me please like just please stop it and it's like oh my god the potential the potential it's through the roof and then you're like wait so according to the show Wanda simultaneously is aware of and is controlling all of this but also has no idea it's happening I have no idea what her her I don't know anything for a show that's about getting into her head I know nothing about what's going on in her head really yeah they keep playing with her awareness of it and it's really annoying because when you do the 70s episode where she's like you're not welcome here get out I was like okay so Wanda's fully aware of everything that's happening here and she's maintaining it and she doesn't want anybody to encroach on it she's he's going down a path right now I was about to say the thing with the guy coming out the sewers oh yeah did you just sort of kill him yeah I mean I don't know because he just goes no and then he's gone well she rewound the universe which by the way that's an interesting ability that she'd ever use as a guide that's quite cool very interesting I can kind of imagine many situations in this season that would have been a useful thing to use for example my children are missing I had them just hours ago I guess I'm screwed it's like rewind time yeah rewind time till visions are alive that's a good one well this is the thing if it's only within the dome like all events within the dome or whatever then I guess she can't do that but at the same time like she can help herself against all kinds of things when she got mad she extended the dome it felt as if the dome was only that big because that's just as big as she wanted it to be yeah but when she got mad at sword which was another weird thing it clearly goes through the forward base of sword so when we see sword the next episode I'm thinking oh this is sword but in a TV show now but it wasn't somehow they'd managed to outrun the the dome for some reason Haywood was the only one who got out with a couple of people in his van everyone else got swallowed up I guess and they got turned into clowns yeah that cat tenning could beat up yeah you know you go with the whole like meta view you're like all of the police force sanctioned by the government were turned into clowns punched by cat dennings you're like okay alright subtle they could have been turned into anything just saying so here's a question fellas so Wanda controls the size of the dome yeah and within the dome that is her reality that is everything that she wants so could she theoretically just create like a few little domes around her kids and around vision and not have to horribly enslave three thousand people that's what I was assuming hmm interesting well because they never do the whole like you gotta face reality he's died they don't do that arc they just do you gotta stop cause it's hurting people at the end she has a doppelganger she's at the lodge at the end by the lake oh yeah coffee then she goes inside to make to pour more coffee well she's in the next room doing a doctor manhattan astral projection yeah I don't know well it's just that's how powerful she is she can do more than one thing at a time operate on more than one consciousness sort of that extent to the kids this is this ties into I have no idea what her powers are I don't know yeah I have no idea what she'll do next she can and can't do I have no clue what to expect nothing I see matters anymore um yeah her only limits will be herself I mean before this happened and they they've since amped her powers way up she could already beat Thanos remember what Jimmy Woo said you know so that diminish Thanos too so that whole end game thing was a waste of time well you know Captain Malek had beaten him you know she's gonna get it too no but her powers are like limitless now well yeah it is a bit ridiculous and uh I don't know if they're gonna try and push her forward to the more antagonist side of the MCU or not but like I kind of I don't think so I doubt it I think this would have been where they would have done it this whole show was explaining how she has become an antagonist and if they're not gonna do it here in one division the show I just don't think they're ever gonna do it they basically let her off scot-free with no consequences and not having heard anything yeah I thought they were setting her up to be the villain of Doctor Strange 2 maybe I don't know I really want him to defeat her like that would be nice please that will make that movie really why do you why more would you just hate women yes the best you're gonna get I think would be Doctor Strange loses to Wanda and then Wanda is like oh now that I've beaten you and shown that I am the more powerful person I guess maybe I could learn a lesson or something maybe I'll have my why did you say that name moment or something yeah you could be very right like she'll be like you know what I might have gone too far it's time I use my powers for good like definitive good you're like okay thanks Wanda what's the underlying theme Wanda vision woman takes control of village and everything falls apart in the end and you have PTSD slavery is cool when women do it that's the message well as I was saying the slavery part I would have resurrected my mother I was gonna say I actually would prefer slavery to what happens they describe it as agony you're forced to live a life with absolutely like you're just aware of how much you can't do anything and I think the more disturbing one for me is I've spoken about this before I thought when vision said there are no children in Westview why I thought it meant that she didn't allow children to be in the town because she felt that was too far to do it to children what it actually means is that she's got them trapped in their bedrooms frozen infinitely worse yeah the mother pleading just to at least change it so that they're in the same room together I mean if you have a family if you have loved ones if you have a kid and you're in Wanda's world essentially then you know that your kid is undergoing the same torments every moment then that you are but they're alone you can't get to them they don't even know where they are they must be insanely confused oh the trauma from all of this which then that mom runs away Anya runs away after she explains her 8 year old daughter is trapped in that room and then she opens the crack and she just books and bails and leaves her kid locked in that room do we know she didn't run to the kid or were you just assuming she maybe she ran to get help but she wouldn't have had enough time well yeah absolutely there's more that's the last episode Gary nothing in a lot it's like a one out of ten it's so much that just falls apart are we officially at crisis levels I think so yeah there's a lot to go over for why that is I'm going to try and justify it alright I'm gonna try when we get there but yeah the the horrors that she's done to people I think part of a huge missed opportunity is that we establish an episode I think 8 right with Agatha it's like oh you went through a huge trauma when you were a kid that's like led you on this path do you know how many children you've done this to do you have any idea do you acknowledge this at all the amount of people's lives it's just like yeah I'm sorry oh thanks it's um I guess like not just a missed opportunity it just fucks with the characters I'll kidnap a thousand children before I let vision die silence anyone who gets in my way at least monster sync was like yeah he's he's evil what I love is that fake Pietro or fiatro as some people are calling him he goes up to wonder and he's like oh well you really considered the morality of this all the couples are still together and then they drop the bomb on us of oh yeah but all the children are like in solitary confinement and like how long was that like months of just pure isolation and for a child that is like one of the most traumatic like for an adult you're stuck in a room just in pain I think the show doesn't quite understand how horrific this circumstance is like imagine being just a normal person living your life and suddenly having your autonomy stripped away from you without any warning your autonomy of you all the people you know your kids and then and like you're in constant pain and like the horrific memories of your captor are bleeding into your own memory and then like he walks through the town and you're all sort of staring at her and it's like oh man you know they'll never they'll never know you sacrificed for them it's like dude oh it ruins two characters simultaneously it's it's actually insanely admirable how incredibly efficiently that destroys so much and so few words it makes me look stupid makes me look more of a bankrupt yeah I just I you know the realistic the reality of this situation is if this happened in the real world there'd be some suicides like because of this it's like she had more of a problem with what what's his name again the villain Hayward yeah she had more of a problem with what Hayward did than what Wanda did yeah you're trying to kill the fake children that aren't real that I recognize aren't real you're trying to kill them remember she could have taken more people though oh god that line other could have killed all the Jews yeah she said it was evidence that she's like clearly not a bad person it's like are you insane I the idea is like you sacrifice I was like do you want to know all these people sacrificed for her to indulge in a pantomime like you yeah absolutely lost it like it's can't even call it sacrifice they didn't have a choice well that's kind of what they had taken away from the fake children and her fake husband anything no fantasy that's what she sacrificed no the boyfriend fantasy is exactly that fantasy is not reality also what it even looks like it's not like it's gonna be any trouble just make a small hexagon whatever on your house have your kids and vision in there pop it in out whenever you want to see them you crazy bitch you don't have to do this to the whole town why did you do it to the whole town I thought that the show was implying that it was done by accident that she didn't like intend it like she like freaks out inside of the house but then I would have guessed it wasn't that way yeah with the drone yeah ever so does it 5 or 6 just destroys that when she's like leave us do you remember the line where Haywood says you've trapped thousands of people in there and she says I'm not the one with the guns yeah you are fucking forcing people to feel all of your agony fuck off you're the one with the shoot me unbelievable magical powers that make our guns look like pea shooters it's yeah it addresses statement though it's amazing how the hostage you have guns it's like what the yes we do we're not used to trying to rescue all the people that you've captured yeah and yeah the writer avoids having to acknowledge it by doing that because the conversation ends the morals we're discussing here I mean it's just like Wonder Woman 1984 how many people did this get past like there's writing staff there's editors there's producers I'm sort of like it might have been like two or three you just have to maybe maybe that's a process it literally is just a person doing the writing someone else who just does things like check for grammar and then the third person to just give it the okay and the thumbs up and everyone else just they just have to do it now I've been saying this for a while but like the studios need like a department of asshole critics just look at their scripts and their pre visits just beforehand to make sure that it actually makes sense because clearly there is no standard within the actual writer's room they need a department of Ned Flanders someone to just go yeah that's immoral you know what Ned thank you for letting them know it was a good bullet dodged at that point I don't know that that kind of sounds like horrific pseudo quasi-slavery mind control okay dickly doggums okay because yeah I'm tired of letting crazy immoral shit being justified so blithely like hello I did leave Wanda's villainy if Monica had returned as an antagonist for Wanda but would have technically been a protagonist because of what Wanda's been doing then that would have made sense then we could have actually got a little bit deeper into this because we could have then started to explore what she'd done wrong we could have then started to explore why her fantasy land was in fact exceedingly corrupt and poisonous and disgusting and villainous but no Monica just comes Monica gets kicked out and then immediately turns to white guys just like I hate you you white and then that starts to start their relationship she started it on an antagonistic level she never and he did he wasn't doing anything technically wrong to start with it's weird that Monica isn't actually sort of dislike Wanda after what because everyone should be everyone should hate her she should be the reason the Sokovia chords happen doubly so she felt her grief and she feels sorry for her that's what her logic is in the show and it's not just Monica too like Darcy and the FBI they're on her side as well there's a lot of characters who are on her side it's like why are you trying to help her what do you want the reason why is because Wanda is the main character of the television show Wanda vision that's why they're on her side that's why well vision calls her out a couple of times and then he just gets squirreled away it's like no we're not going to explore that the episode is going to be over now we're not going to go back to this we're going to forget it happened is she ready to be like vision is the hero of this story when he's like you can't you may be able to control Dambu you can't control me and she says Conti I was like oh fuck let's do this I remember my life that's like the representative of her conscience that's still like good and that has sort of manifested itself as vision inside of Westview she kind of has to fight that she has to tangle with her own conscience and the framing device of that is a superhero fight but that would be an idea we could just make the white guy bad instead and you know it was Agatha all along well praise to the show what did she do why was she there that's my question how did you learn why Wanda was so powerful despite having no training and how did she get there was she just there from the first place she says there was another pal of witch there she says that she detected a shit ton of spells being the dome and so she came to inspect because she was like what first problem is how isn't she never inspected Wanda before she would have seen her on TV at least oh yeah there's this person who's literally understands what she does as casting spells so why didn't she inspect this already well infinity war and in game the infinity stones are they're magic I guess whatever that word means now in this universe I guess my point is she says that her thing is taking powers from people who don't deserve to use them or whatever she's like Baron Mordo I guess and it's really unclear exactly but that's what she says so if you're following the news Scarlet Witch is already somebody you should be trying to take the powers from she's like in trouble for having killed people with her powers you know without knowing the nuance of the situation she should be interested but she says the massive amount of spells in the dome that gets her in so first of all how do you get into the dome without getting transferred into a spooky drone without sword finding out like when Monica gets out like an entire team is on it and they know she should be assimilated for one and sword should know hey someone made it into the dome it's like oh okay I can't think of anything like did she get a car she covered herself in the show with a know who she is yeah maybe she wore 50's clothes and it meant she could go through without getting turned into like bullshit in sword would know that she's not like a person cause they have dossiers on everyone who's been kidnapped right now like they look into all the people and they like have the identities so you'd imagine that if she was not from the town they'd be like wait a minute this person's not from here no record of this human being like that's interesting she's the only one who has this too I thought they were going to do something with that witness who was supposed to be under FBI protection in the town the reason Jimmy Woo was there and they never did did you guys catch that part it was in the third episode or fourth box after the third episode they start telling you the same story from two different perspectives at that point and yeah the reason Jimmy Woo was there he's all yeah we've got a witness under protection in here I thought and they just never did anything with it it's even worse than that as well because he says that the witness seemed to have flew the coop and so he's looking for him and he's like he's supposed to be in this town he's not there I called everyone who knew him family and associates and nobody remembers him and they established I don't know how many of you guys even know this because it's a line that's really quick they established that everyone in Westview's minds have been altered and everyone who knows everyone in Westview in the world has had their minds erased of them yeah they're not even in the dome so do they go back to normal afterwards I have no idea how any of that works I would have such an insane ripple effect like I don't know how far of the memory of that town would go to like if you just went on vacation or passed through it on a drive like memory be erased as well it would be reported because for example let's just say you know Rags hangs out with his brother Rugs all the time and tells me about their adventures wherever they go one day because Rugs was in Westview Rags just has no memory of Rugs anymore but won't I have like pictures of him around my house yeah well so I was going to get into this first of all there's all of the physical things that exist that relate to these people but then there's just the fact that you would tell me about this person or maybe even not their name just the stuff you do with them and I'm like if I ever I'm like oh you're not going you're not going to your weekly D&D with Rugs like who's Rugs well would you be affected too you wouldn't even know about Rugs about the D&D game which just creates more problems if it webs out to have a single reference of Rugs it just trickles down not like could potentially affect the entire world I think my brother's name is Hasim but do you think after the five-year blip and after this people would really hate superheroes I mean they got mad when they just blew up a building if I wasn't on the Accord side I'd be on the Accord side now I'd be like this is getting ridiculous yeah by accident by complete and total accident Marvel has created what the DCEU is trying to create yes a horrific nightmare world it's turning into Watchmen I mean they're making Watchmen again yeah and they don't even know they have no idea no idea what they've done because yeah if my memory of a friend's family members or my own family members getting erased towns are getting like destroyed people are getting enslaved on mass I should be like so these superhero dudes we need to do something about it so they're like bad it's like no you don't like a couple good ones like Captain America you know like he's you know there's some ones that you'd be like okay this one's good this one's good but a lot of them seem to be really really bad slavery is not cool not cool no and if someone said I know all about this case actually I'm you know I'm caddannings or whatever you're like oh yeah what happens like well she was really sad oh could you imagine a court case how many witnesses would be going against her like she would be destroyed by the people of the town it's funny right because if you were like did that hold up if she makes everyone forget about the people in the village why wouldn't she make people forget about her then she could have her little did she actually make everybody outside the dome forget about people inside the dome or did the writers just not acknowledge it no they explicitly say why is it that we remember Westview and stuff when we're in the vicinity of it but people don't remember anybody in Westview and Monica says it must be a personal connection or something you have to be personally invested and so I think Heywood shouldn't have any memory Heywood shouldn't know who Vision or Scarlet Witch is he's clearly personally invested and then someone pointed this out who in Ant-Man he was really trying to keep him under house arrest he was really dedicated to that meanwhile Wanda goes crazy and strips everyone of their free will and he doesn't even consider arresting yeah he's on a team he buy the book Ant-Man and the Wasp and in this it's like he's an obstruction for Ant-Man but only because he's doing his job which is fine with me but in this one Wanda's team she's doing the worst shit that anyone has ever done at the MCU as a hero I just don't get it if they wanted Monica for example to have like a sympathetic bend to Wanda I think it shouldn't have been like oh yeah I would resurrect my mum therefore enslaving 3000 people is fine it should have been like oh I understand your grief but you need serious psychiatric help you need to be put in a facility with like the best people to handle people with your abilities and round the clock monitoring because you are not stable you are out of control and you are dangerous so that could have been how they explored that sympathetic angle but instead it's like I'm going to let you go off into the woods with your psychosis and your reality altering powers and fuck up everything I was actually going to mention so the whole idea that the jury actually acted in favor of her just because she was stricken by grief well we don't know she ran away from the cops the jury comes back with a verdict we rescind our wishes could you even have her in court wouldn't you be like she might mind control all of us to make her innocent yeah how do you tell you're even she's getting too powerful to not be like we need you to stop also with her abilities how did the collar in civil war that took away her powers work because when she was in prison she had a collar on that was like suppressing her ability so I'm curious how that works now no I doubt anything like that's going to work anymore she'll convert it to a chicken she's like well there you go imagine the ripple that this is going to have on the future movies how do you think no and neither did the writers are they going to be on her side or are they going to condemn her I think a lot of them probably will it'll be like a line it'll be like Tony and Cap in in-game where they just have like a short conversation that just wraps everything up in a neat little bow and move along what you did wasn't good she's like yeah I'm sorry about that and they're like well good you won't do it again she did say she was sorry so you feel bad about what you've done young lady I feel like this is Superman wouldn't like that Superman likes justice this is a girl fashion really shitty writing in terms of a moniker and thingy turn up to west view as the first people to discover the weirdness like well that doesn't make sense because anybody who has friends or family in west view would have found out by now right and then the writer's like ah I'll make it so everybody who have a personal connection to the town forgot about it easy done no one in the right room went wait calm down first off who are you how'd you get in here second that would work that coffee was terrible well I mean Jack Schaefer the showrunner the showrunner did come out recently and said she didn't know how to read a comic book she didn't know what order to read this this is a yes serious books are improved if you don't know which order to read them they are but I mean like it's heading for a big mess right you know if you're a DC fan you know this when you start messing with multiverses and because like they're gonna have to fix all this stuff after the 5 year snap and this it's an absolute mess nothing's gonna make any sense so in the DC world the big difference between DC Marvel if you don't read comics is DC resets their universe every few years and because of the they're doing it every movie now they're doing the same thing in movies which is strange and Marvel had a continuous canon basically up until a little after when Disney bought it and then they've made it real messy and now I you know I have no idea now the direction the movies are going in they introduced the nexus and that commercial which they did nothing with which is supposed to set up the multiverse and which you know they again there was a lot of promises made by Disney that didn't happen in this show including this Olsen saying there's gonna be a Luke Skywalker cameo and then when they introduced the show with Doctor Strange they said they insinuated would lead directly into that movie which it doesn't it like it's a light prequel at best I guess we'll find out but things are gonna get real messy so I mean you guys are trying to break things down logically good for you and they probably should hire all of you guys but nobody's thinking about it they're like oh we just need a vagina to write this next movie that's their biggest concern a sentient vagina that writes a sentient vagina I used to think multi-verse we all know sentient vagina you know what I mean you all know what I'm talking about I was enticed by multi-verse like oh you can do so many things but at this point I was so cynical I was like you're only introducing multi-verse cause you can't be asked to write anymore and you can't say oh this is multi-verse that's how I explain all of this shit happening you're like okay the only multi-verse they can handle is a song this is a horrifying thorn what if a baby was born just before the hex oh yeah what if a baby got snapped right after it came out well it comes out like a squeak all of that that space just goes so way it's like Betty White giving birthwards to a baby Betty White giving birthwards was just like it's like farting ash and it makes the noise if a newborn baby is separated from their parents just after they're born in Wanda's hexi world does that mean that Wanda has actually killed babies from like malnutrition because they're not allowed to be with their parents or some shit like that parents forget about well does the show even address that like if they eat or are they just like in their beds static well you would have all the people who live in Westview who were not currently in Westview at that moment who just don't know who they are anymore yeah how much information can you remove from someone's brain before they'll like stop being able to function as normal it's like you don't know the buildings the town why you went there what work was there what people are there you're missing so much like imagine you spent your entire life in that town and then it's like the one time in your life that you've ever exited the town and that's when the town disappears and suddenly you're just this wandering zombie person outside the border trying to figure out who you are hey she said sorry okay that's true that's true and superman first day you have no idea what she sacrificed yeah she didn't say sorry to any of them you just look to them as they fucking stay hey I just back at her the one person she said sorry to got superpowers from all of this it wouldn't look at she got superpowers by walking through a wall which by the way is a wall that all of them have been through or would have been through technically I guess if only she had expanded it retracted it and expanded it and then passed everyone through it three times and they'd all have superpowers oh well oh my god that would have been a nice consolation where it's like okay I know I trapped you guys in a hellish torment prison and remove your autonomy but I'm gonna get everyone superpowers okay you're still a villain but that's one of how the whole world destroyed for the MCU that you might be like well it's hard for it to do those walls thing it's not like she can just pull it out like if a Thanos attacks it's not like she can just generate subtract and generate a wall thing to give people powers right it's like well I would say that's bad enough but we actually get confirmed at the end of the show that you can enchant a necklace to give people super speed and super strength she can create a vision go ahead she can create a vision I mean yeah Christ literally with powers an army of vision yep so this is what we mean about how the MCU is just done you can't have stakes again it was already difficult but like you've made it so that Scarlet Witch and Agatha and who knows whoever many magic users can give people powers on the fly incredible powers by the way moving at the speed of light or sound whatever it's quite useful you can do a lot with it even apocalypse had trouble with with Quicksilver you know it was just like oh you slow down there you pesky teenager whatever someone said you probably shouldn't give these metaphysical concepts to amateur writers hmm someone mentioned there is that one chick who tries to get Wanda to contact her husband proving there are people who live there with families here that are trapped outside of the hex but that goes to say if that person who said can you at least tell my husband not to come back your husband wouldn't even know who you are lady yes sir the husband on a business trip he ends the trip and he has no idea what he's doing now he's like yeah he's like I guess who am I where am I from do I have a house and if he contacts his boss like I'm kind of confused man I have no idea where I am or where I'm going well he's got his wallet with his ID in it how do you want some kids he will be able to develop and this is what we would all do we go I'm a guy who has a family and a house in west view I need to go and see what's going on that would be a cool framing device where our POV character is someone who's just out of west view who lives in west view the show just starts from nothing to a person in a room and we're just as confused as the guy is and he's piecing everything together he looks at his ID he goes to he looks at his hotel key maybe he goes to the hotel he's like I have no fucking clue where I am what I'm doing I don't know where home is I don't know anything and so that's our way of and then we discover uh oh Wanda's done some shenanigans we have to discover what's happening here along with our interesting POV character don't just mention mail um obviously like deliveries for supermarkets or whatever these people aren't coming back so the company's gonna be like what the hell's going on like the real people they they have to provide sustenance to themselves right well we never get to address that because it's too difficult to write it it's like she's keeping children frozen in their rooms like is she feeding them what's happening just have faith in the throwaway line that says that it's all fine that it is don't don't think about it just just watch that and yeah the amount of companies involving obviously mail and groceries and stuff they're gonna be like our drivers our delivery people they're all disappearing when they go to Westview because they've obviously got trackers and stuff on day they'll just be like they never come back from Westview what the fuck's going on and then they go to Westview and there's this whole government organization surrounding the city you'd be like what the fuck is that it would get national coverage just be like this is insane not to say what a delivery person who's just like a package driver would they remember the the the village because it's impersonal or is that personal if you work in a place yeah how does one isn't isn't a personal connection and what isn't yeah part of the magic yay again I wish wonder what erased my memory of this guys TV shows on guys TV shows aren't about the logic okay they're about the emotion oh this one isn't I believe you there vision shed a tear at the end of this season that's why it's meaningful I thought he's a robot well he's got little packets in there that go whenever he wants to cry it's like windshield wiper fluid yes it wasn't actually it was fake robot well it was here constructed vision of vision yeah so yeah I can believe it it's magic it's all magic this is how they get away with most of the criticism memories on a large scale it can make cry fuck it when the dude is choking vision puts his hand in his throat because he can phase through it how do you drag that out without un phasing your hand thus putting your hand in his throat well how does the object phase through the barrier of his throat that's what I'm saying all right his hand would come in this throat and it would explode and all this blood and stuff well so this is coming through maybe the item but on phase around the item boom well like the vision can't make things feasible right only himself I'm trying to remember did they establish this in the MCU again it's been a couple years since I've seen Civil War and Age of Ultron but he becomes he can become as dense too he can become extremely dense like a move can become extremely dense extremely dense yeah maybe this was an autobiography maybe well no I think Kirk Metzger said it best that this is a story about a woman who married her vibrator and then it broke how many settings does vision have as many as you need baby yeah kind of the story this is a whatever we need to happen story yeah so I don't know is there anything else because for episode one I've been playing it while we were watching and trying to pick up anything I remember oh we tied is that what we're doing yes I'm going to claim that's what we were doing it was it was great I mean it was you're right it was the first like really enclosed episode it felt like there was something going on it gave us just enough the link was fine I felt that way about the first three episodes it just kind of yeah first we were interested I was interested if the whole show was out I would have just kept watching I would have been disappointed sooner but you know it felt charming to me as well the classic storyline the boss is coming to dinner we got to make sure everything goes right and then things start going wrong it's like oh I feel like I've actually watched this episode of TV so many times like from I like how the stakes went from I hope their dinner goes okay to oh my god you kidnapped and mentally enslave a town of people oh my god that could have worked by having to be she was unaware this was this she had to be unaware of all of it but then she's like no you guys are happy it's like oh god no no remember when we initially talked about this guys we said like this feels like it's really building up to something but if we go back and re-watch this and it's a I mean it affects the whole show right so I went back and re-watch I couldn't even I could barely get through the first two episodes as nice as they were knowing what happens it like it's mean the only thing that happens in the first episode is cat Denning is watching the show at the end that's the only like piece of information yeah which was it just lets your mind go free you're like someone's watching this is she trapped is someone doing this to her or is she doing this and people are observing it or like what could happen the show had mystery well now it has mystery but that's just because it's nonsense so we don't know what the fuck is happening so no in isolation those first three episodes they were just my kind of weird where there was kind of this mystery going on and it was really meta-textual and just it it it it stroke to my tisms and just the right way and then the rest of the show happened and I wanted to know what was happening because you were legitimately interested in what was going on it was a lot of interesting setups and I'll agree and bolster in that like it was definitely my neurons in terms of like when they tell him oh my god he's like they've had like 300% additional efficiency since vision joined the company and what do they do the company they simply compute inputs and outputs and so I was like oh is she using the mechanics in his corpse to like amplify her maintenance of like the illusion like all of the different processes that have to happen she's using his body and then in universe he works at the company because that's almost what he's doing in real life but no yeah that's his inner monologue while he's hooked up to the machine is him asking you know what's his face what does it actually do here and I don't even know what that was for I think it was just to make you go yeah turns out this is an illusion from Wanda like oh yeah I know I know that I thought he was going to do something more interesting than that oh yeah it's just fake you're like okay it is an interesting idea that in order to create to this illusion she needed vision's body as kind of a conductor of some kind so it's not just she can change reality at will like there needs to be other components to create an illusion or a transfiguration of this scale but no it's I thought she took his body nope that's a lie oh she made it from scratch we're told that by Hayward the truth is that he's got the body and he turns it into come vision and that's bad well I suppose we could get into that what would you guys do if there's this if he says three billion dollar type of vibranium weapon that can essentially like blow lasers through all kinds of things used to have a personality apparently it's inert or gone what should we do with it like um well one option let Wanda bury it like I don't think sell it on eBay probably not my first thing would be to when discussing this sensitive issue with Wanda I wouldn't be an asshole dick oh yeah no that's yeah I wouldn't puppeteer his body parts in front of her and be like yeah I wouldn't treat like vision was a person um yeah that's the thing and I don't know why he was so insistent on oh yeah he's dead lol now he got his body fuck off like I'd imagine if he was a human and they were just dissecting him in front of her all of the veins and tendons I'd be like like you could have put the pieces back together nicely you'd show an understanding with Wanda you'd say vision was a hero and he saved an insane amount of people and he has the respect of he has the deserved respect of an entire planet but vision is gone he's gone basically we had a funeral for him like in Superman with everything but this is just the body this is just the shell of what he was this isn't vision anymore this is a this is a different thing from what vision is what presents an issue is that they say not only in I don't know how much this counts vision's will says he doesn't want his body messed with I don't know what that means in the universe but they also say according to the accords you cannot do anything with his body if he was to die so I'm confused they don't care about the accords well they tell us no no because I think what they're telling us is that Hayward is operating entirely illegally in the show for his own goals which seem to be he wants to get that weapon under his control and he thinks that once he does it and stops Wanda he'll be celebrated as a hero that is his motivation as a villain well I don't yes but I don't know why he's being stopped why would this be illegal why is it that trying to stop Wanda at any cost to save these thousands of people and securing vision and see if we can get him online why would they be bad things when we're getting attacked by aliens semi-regularly especially sorry I'm going to rags I was like I wonder what vision would have I guess the stakes are so high that they would have just done it you know especially since there's no other Avengers around apparently apparently the Avengers are just not around they just couldn't be bothered well that's another problem that destroys this show is that they have to account for every other Avenger and not only just that they have to account for why none of the Avengers did anything in the 5 year gap with vision's body what happened what was Tony doing did they keep the body for 5 years and then finally give it to sword why why did it take this long yeah like the show forgets I think the show thinks everybody was on pause and then they randomly mention like Heywood says you weren't here for the 5 years it was hell or something like that you guys pretend like the 5 years didn't happen except for that the one scene everyone was praising or at least one of many scenes with the blip the re-entering it's the most harrowing and dramatic we've seen of it and it's like finally the horror of the blade I like that one but they don't go much further than that they did nothing with it it was just an intro to get you hooked into the rest of the episode they did absolutely nothing with it it was so incredibly disappointing hmm we're on the living before she enslaved the town was she just hoboing it up in her car how can she afford a car I've got questions about her living situation was she supported by the avengers compound in some way was she with them well they got destroyed yeah and what is the avengers right now it's completely broken apart because the leader of it died we don't get any of that we might get it in a movie at some point the other leader fucked off too this is the thing at this point we need like a full movie to go over the state of the universe we don't understand where everything is anymore well according to Superman Spider-Man Far From Home Captain America was clustered deceased though that could just be the official story that's not necessary I mean I think I think what I probably said is Captain America went back in time to replace the infinity stones we have a word that he was successful but unfortunately Captain America did not survive the you'd think he would come like because at his age it's likely that Peggy has died he came back well that's what I'm saying I don't even want to get into that my point is that he still clearly has a brain wouldn't he want to get back into like a controlling interest as in like I should Peggy's gone I'm invested in the world actually like you know not getting killed by everybody he doesn't have to be Cap he doesn't have to be running around killing things because he's old now but wouldn't he be on like some kind of board and he would be like okay yeah like he could be an advisor or a team leader he lived in an alternate world he maybe I don't know talk to people about maybe there were certain events that happened at the same time that he could help out with I know the things that are possible so maybe we should check for those things happening in our world also I let 9-11 happen Captain America becomes Joe Biden I'm less appealing to like like I'm less appealing to his abilities and thus should be there I'm like he should want to do it he he it's Captain America he should be like I should get involved he's not gonna just stop like the idea that he's like I'd like to sit on a bench and have a cup of coffee he's like yeah I know I know what's going on with the Avengers for example I would love to have a scene where old Cap meets up with Wanda and he fucking chastises her for everything she did and he's like I defended you I looked after you I fought for you and look what you did you piece of shit plus you'd have the camaraderie between those two personally yeah I've lost people that I loved I know what you're going through I could speak to this you've all lost people you're the only one who's kidnapped to town though the person who was the one person that was there for Wanda apart from Vision yeah it was when he learned that Wanda was being held at the house Hawkeye was the one that talked around Hawkeye the scare in Sikovia Hawkeye was the one who came for her to rescue her in Civil War why wasn't Hawkeye sent to this place because they don't give a fuck they don't remember anything as was mentioned I think they're all in bubbles right now they're all right in their own shit nobody cares about anyone else's shit it's weird you'd think that okay you're a writer for the most financially vast property in the history of humankind so your first job you have to watch the movies could y'all do that he lost his family he lost his family for five years whatever so he knows lost he was the perfect character to try and reach out to Wanda yeah you're right there should have been I mean I guess it's like I thought Kevin Feige was meant to be this maybe he's not because he's a producer and there's other things he has to do but there should be like one person who is just I am like the MCU lore guy my job is to make sure that all of you are doing make things that make sense in this universe well they should be like a department start wars and they got rid of them all whole guy was meant to be retired in civil war folks he said you know to Iron Man I hope nobody's saying he wouldn't do it because he's retired I can't help but feel like I can't help but feel like this confusion is deliberate so I don't know if you guys got this impression the impression I got from the show is that it was a big part of it was that it was made in order to spark discussion which works with the TV format as well like releasing it one episode a week in order to spark further discussion and our fan theories and speculation and of course they throw in loads of little references and stuff here and there to make people go oh I know that oh I know that oh I understand what that means oh what does that mean what does that mean I can't help but wonder whether or not they are deliberately not answering these questions in order to get people to talk about it so that they're more interested in what follows I'm not saying that's the right approach but that's the impression I get that's the exact approach that's mystery box JJ Abrams perfected that well I wouldn't say perfected because the the shows end up sucking it's about creating the discussion and only creating the discussion he concocted it I don't know if he like created it he cursed hollywood with the mystery box yeah he cursed that that's probably mystery box I guess it's just weird because ever since the shows come out the writers have been getting really defensive about the fact that people were speculating on things that were nothing at all oh I didn't realize that was a better idea I suppose yeah I think that's probably a good example of that was all right go ahead what I was going to say you might be bringing it up but that was a good example for the stuff right so boner everybody assumed that that was significant obviously obviously people thought that was going to be significant I think when we watched it this isn't like us being like I can't wait for them to come through on our desires for that I was just like are they going to justify this by having it be that his version of him is dead and she pulled him from the multiverse and it happened to be a version that matches up with close to the MCU but he was Evan Peters because Evan Peters is one of the many people in timelines who ends up being a quick silver they're going to try and argue that he's kind of partially pulled from X-Men's multiverse but also combined up and shat out by a series of combinations that gets him into this world I was like that's kind of a cool idea I'm on board let's see how they justify it wow yeah it looked like kinda that's the direction they were going Agatha talked about I couldn't do the doppelganger whatever magic she was doing because she didn't have the body of the other quick silver she mentions necromancy necromancy yeah that's it that's what I thought there's a lot of people who were criticizing the criticizers of this show saying we were all hung up on our theories I think a lot of us were just kind of they set something up that was interesting and open to see where they took it and where they took it was like the lamest place yeah and they also referenced kick ass because they were both in kick ass both the quick silvers they knew exactly what they were doing so I don't think there was anything wrong with people speculating on it I think it's bullshit there's that interview where they're just like I just thought it was a neat little thing I didn't realize you guys were going to get so like crazy obsessed with it I don't think you'd care about the shit we put in our TV show the show doesn't treat him as just an actor they're like what in the world happened here like how did you get here we know who you are the audience like clap because obviously you could say it's part of the show but at the same time they know what that means to the audience we're all seeing the guy from the X-Men universe who also played quick silvers this is super interesting what's with this crossover are they going to use Wanda's magic as an explanation to make the mutants a part of the MCU oh my goodness what could possibly be going on here nothing lol look at how he's dressed when he first shows up that is not how quick silver looked in this universe that jacket is clearly trying to invoke like that quick silvery X-Men kind of look that he had in the film in the X-Men films they just wanted a slight gag he looks like Ace Ventura on the right he does it's weird that for them I guess it's not weird I guess I can believe it totally without question their inability as writers oddly enough to not at all understand what like investment in things is will react to their audience and stories and characters but they're the ones writing the show how did you get this job who did you know well I am like I said I'm calling bullshit on this because we get told that everybody's getting recognized in the world of WandaVision and the interesting tidbit is that of course Agnes doesn't get recognized so if you're an eagle eyed viewer you'll be like oh is that a bit of foreshadowing there you kind of implying that there's something about here that we'll get soon to find out it's like yes there is they don't tell us that he's recognized he should be he's boner, he's Ralph Boner he lives in this town so they should be like oh yeah cause they're like new player but he got recast that's all they say they don't say oh yeah that's Ralph Boner he lives in the town he's just being used for and they don't tell us that because they want us to think that he's the guy from X-Men they want us to think he's been plucked from another universe stop lying we know what you were doing it's just really annoying if you wanted to play it straight and have it be that no we just wanted to use the actor and he's really good and it happens to be that he's playing the role of a speedster happens to be cool so it's all coincidence it's got nothing to do with us doing anything in narrative be like okay so play it that way don't fucking around with it like it's all you've been doing yeah stop treating it like it's this amazing thing that that's going to lead to something big incredible people are thinking this is a massive crossover event between multiple super well-known universes in the audio description Ada McGurr is pointing this out so it's Ryan in the audio description for the show they describe him as Quicksilver as he appears in the X-Men movies so that's like officially licensed Disney stuff so that's how they described him so every fan had every right to speculate and all of your ideas were better than what came through and that's what the writers or but heard about because there was a kick-ass reference in episode 6 and apparently the writer said that wasn't intentional it's like come on no way the showrunner said she didn't know who Mephisto was until she went on press what what I don't know who Mephisto is I'm also not the writer for a superhero TV show by Marvel this is where it all comes down to it's just like if you're going to because they're adapting shit don't you want to read it if you want to deviate but you don't even know who characters in the MCU are or rather the comic Marvel universe just weird I'm not interested in doing this the funny thing is I know who Mephisto is because I played enough games to know who he is same with like Namor and other characters that aren't in the MCU yet I'll just be like oh it would be cool to see their visions and understand them but yeah I don't know anything about that you're like why are you writing this it's a good question who did you feel late to get this job all of them everyone every palatio because she only has what one partial credit on a previous Marvel property and then she's the showrunner for this big TV show doesn't that happen fairly often though it does now where you just have this tiny thing that you've done and now boom you're in charge of this super massive TV program and it doesn't pass the smell test which is good if you have talent oh yeah I can definitely work out I always see it as a major risk to have given this multi-million dollar three film project to a guy who made some weird pulpy horror movies and then we ended up getting Lord of the Rings so it can work I just don't know if whatever I actually read the book well this is the thing I think there's going to be a lot of reason to have hired him that I'm unaware of behind the scenes I want to say this with some confidence but back then I feel like they cared more about writing and they were like we got to actually write a good story to get people to buy stuff these days I don't know what the fuck's happening I think it's the properties if you have the property that's it like they knew people were going to watch this anyway it's just content now I want to go down the Star Wars rabbit hole but look at Star Wars, it still makes them so much money and it's pretty much all garbage or all garbage and that's where the MCU is going it's just to provide content and now we can hire somebody that can just be it looks like good press we hired this woman to run the show and they end up setting almost the she says it, she says I was just there to provide structure it's a cookie cutter thing it's the whole idea that we're in a position where the content exists to make money as opposed to the way that it should be which is that somebody had an original idea and then a studio is like we could make money off of this we own Marvel so let's make some stuff let's get some people in to write the show what are we doing? Doctor Strange 2? figure out a story get on it backwards it is if you think about it, could Disney have ever started the MCU? the answer is absolutely not and you guys asked if there was like some lore master there were they had a team of comic guys and the people who were the original architects including John Favreau Edgar Wright Josh Whedon and Ken Feige systematically got rid of all of them right after Civil War that's pretty much when he took full charge of the MCU this explains so much is that true? yes there was a big battle between Ike Pearlmutter he used to own Marvel and when he sold it to Disney he had a board seat and he still ran the TV side that's why a lot of the TV suck I remember this and Kevin Feige won and they blamed all the ills of the MCU on Ike Pearlmutter not having a Captain Marvel movie not doing a Black Widow movie earlier and that might have been true but Kevin Feige was a producer and he beat a Disney board member in a battle of egos because he was successful he took a lot of credit for the MCU and he had a lot of help including from John Favreau who was not involved anymore so that provides context and you hear that the excuses are coming out for the show they're blaming COVID for a lot of stuff there was a bunch of toxic you know toxic male director footage that was left on the cutting room floor because the effects people didn't have enough time to finish the effects you need more time what do you mean they had more time toxic male footage they had more time though director Hayward there was a lot more director Hayward footage supposedly to provide context to his ass hole what was the rush sounds like bullshit the rush was probably for Disney I imagine it has to do with there are quarterly goals for Disney Plus because isn't the fiscal year in America ends in March there's probably a massive incentive to get things done before March that probably explains why a lot of properties and video games and stuff come out before the end of March we got sales we got 100 million people on Disney Plus that may well because Falcon and Wister sold it got massively delayed that show got massively it was meant to come out in August God forbid Disney makes a loss no it's not even it's just a little less cash it's not even they make a lot it's just they make less money Batwoman is willing to take breaks oh no are we here are we actually here are we doing positive comparisons with Batwoman Batwoman knows how to have fun the writers are Batwoman they have to take a break to rest their brains their big brain they have to carry it around the wheelbarrow all those juices they gotta apparently Disney has lost a lot of money due to parks being closed yes boo-hoo we're looking at it here boo-fucking-hoo I guess that's the thing is it's hard not to get more cynical about what's happening with Marvel because it's just like there's just so much content that's coming out and like you look forward to this year it's like man let's run through the list Falcon and Wister soldier I'm super concerned about that one I want it to be good because it's got Zemo and stuff in it and it's a sequel basically the Civil War but I don't know it's just like dude, Loki will do the same thing this show did Loki will introduce a whole bunch of Tisms that are going to fuck with everything we understand time travel which is like an ancient Loki so it's like that's going to create a lot of problems you guys are going to love Miss Marvel well you run through the list like Black Widow one, too late two, you might destroy, you might damage Black Widow because she's like the only character who came out of Endgame unscathed I think but there's always potential to ruin and also it's pretty much the same person who wrote this show so that's concerning and then we got like Shang-Chi it's like alright Eternal's big concerns from that one it's like oh they were here all along really, really they were here the whole time why did they show up in any of the Avengers films, why weren't they a presence at all and yeah you're right like Miss Marvel which is going to set up Captain Marvel too, it's like fuck, we got Spider-Man at least but that's got multiverse this whole series I'm so worried about where we're going yeah I would be, I mean like the Eternal's has been done, that film is in the can shot we haven't seen a frame of footage there's no trailer there's posters and stuff that they've shown I don't know what why they look like they got photoshopped faces onto these paintings I don't know to think about as well, especially with the few Buffy fans in this call seeing Anya was really cool and it's nice to see Emma Caulfield doing work and you get told Dotty is the key to everything in this town like ooh it means nothing and even the actress said she hopes she doesn't get any hate from having to be a character that was said to be important yeah, I was looking at my little notes here for my season review and one of the things I put down was I was interested in all these characters they were introducing and how they were gonna turn out, I mean they just ended up being a bunch of people being tortured by Wanda, essentially and that's it for instance, like Dotty could have been someone who is fully aware of everything that's happening she just tries to tweak it and control it you get that impression when she's in that meeting and someone is delivering the meeting's topics and she forgets one and she's like oh did I forget part of that and then she looks at her and she's like you won't be leading these beings anymore it's just like ooh is that just surface level? is that just the silly drama of this 60s episode or is it more so indicative of something that's going on underneath that Dotty does control a lot of what happens here it's nothing at all it's nothing nothing at all I mean that's kind of funny because it applies to like the actual villain of this show too stupid sexy villain I assume you mean Wanda stupid sexy hero I would say the villain's character in the season is Wanda, yeah according to the showrunner the villain is grief so what I mean to say is the fucking writer herself we talked about this but it really bugged me when it so like they have the song for Agatha all along and it's like it's meant to be this big reveal but it means nothing because like none of the information that's revealed means anything at all what do you mean? it's weird because it comes out from nowhere like we were doing episodically we had our time periods that it was you know emulating and then we get the Agatha song I'm like but we were just like in the the odds I don't know in the 90s I think no that was on but then I'm like okay so why are we doing the song is it because they just the song is totally very inconsistent in a show that was otherwise quite inconsistent with its time period you know progression yeah they push it through well because this is the problem a lot of content does this where it's like we're about to recontextualize something before you get ready and you're like okay cool what are we doing it's like well thesis statement Agatha was behind all of it you know like first of all that conflicts with what I understood of this season so far but okay maybe you can explain it to me and it's like alright so first and foremost when she was helping with like the plant and the food and stuff that that was Agatha okay um Agatha with the rabbit in the magic contest thing she did she was doing stuff with the rabbit just fucking around with everything it was like alright okay she was the one who managed to take um the neighbor out of his trance and make him start sawing the brick okay that takes an incredible amount of effort to do well it's what a magic rags not real brick it's styrofoam I don't fucking know and we never saw him again um I think he pops up like at the end for just a he was in a meaningful way was it episode the halloween episode he was the guy who was on neighborhood watch he does pop up he doesn't do anything important just to stay on the topic though like she was behind Evan Peters and now you're just like what are you suggesting she was behind like random pieces it's like she faked her whole like brain thing when she was talking to vision in the halloween episode okay she's a troll she asked a question that Wanda found uncomfortable so Agatha was just a minor nuisance all along this is like I think viewers who are on board of the show will be like ah it was Agatha and you're like hello what does that mean what do you think that means because it wasn't it wasn't Agatha all along no it wasn't at all you find out that she's like and I killed Sparky Sparky's not real Sparky's not real she was the one who brought him in presumably like she would have spawned him because Wanda surprised by it I'm assuming Agatha cast the dog and then was like lol dog dead okay or what if it was a dog from the town that she took Wanda had shamed up in the dog house that's the thing we don't see many animals at all Wanda probably killed them all I don't know probably Agatha did just went around killing animals well that's where the whole thing falls apart the premise was they were supposed to be in this town during sitcoms trying to fit in when they didn't need to fit in Wanda was controlling everything so remember they were like don't do magic in front of other people it's like why you had control of their minds anyway yeah do you feel like do you feel like it would be almost immediate not a fix but it would help if like maybe if you established that I don't know for some reason when Wanda comes back after Endgame like Agatha's already on it and she's messing with her and like leads her to almost create the ultimate reality like if she was putting her in a trance or something or like tricking her just to see what would happen so that we're all clear Agatha's goal is to have Wanda cast spells and so she can sap her while doing it apparently Agatha can only sap magic from people when they're casting their spells she's like changing the mental she wants to encourage Wanda well there's another line where they say once the spell is cast it can't be changed or it can't be stopped I think she says it can't be changed but it can be stopped and she says that all the spells are on autopilot so and she's constantly casting a spell then so that was the thing I was like surely she is yeah like the spells are getting redone all the time they're all in real time so like why aren't you just sapping her now but like that's to try and justify why they have their magic fight is Agatha wants to use her powers so that she can do big suck but like wouldn't that technically apply to the entire town couldn't she do the suck from the town as far as I can tell she can make herself invisible Wanda can do that too so if she can make herself invisible and create fake enemies for her why not like generate some stuff that Wanda can try and fight with her magic and then sap her power invisibly behind her oh really unclear what exactly Agatha can do she seems to just forget that she can do certain things or hold back for some reason and maybe it's because she's kind of sadistic or wants to have fun but it's weird I have no clue why she doesn't think she does what end is she doing this she wants her power she wants to sing a song she reckons that Wanda shouldn't have that power yeah she says she says that she will fix her spell and she's explicit she says I will get rid of all the fuck ups you've got which make people feel pain it's not even like when she says that it's not even strongly implied that she was going to take away Wanda's dream her fake world that she was just going to repair it it's weird but then at the end she said she kind of went back on it she's like it'll still be broken just like you broken spells always broken so this is the thing about Agatha she's so incompetently written that for the most part she's not even a villain you look at her intro sequence which by the way is portrayed very dark the music is very ominous a bunch of people try to kill her for reading about magic so I'm on her team and then she rightfully defends herself they try to do the big suck on her she does the counter suck and it's just like fine go ahead do the same thing fuck up are they all turned into zombies and she was like begging to like get trained as well so she's even more sympathetic because of that because she was trying not to do the big suck and she said she'll be good she was like let me let me do good or whatever this is like nah boo they explicitly say you've been reading magic out of your station and age that's her crime I I range is about 38 well I think they do young makeup on her for that scene to make it look like she's a lot younger I don't care though like why would you show me that scene to be like you see Agatha spooky villains like no you'd imagine if you had like a flashback with like a coven of witches you would want to like have her doing something hideous and like betraying them and like going against them or like out of her way but it's nothing like that in that flashback that was just like Buffy the Vampire Slayer well yeah it's also strangely directed and put together with the tone of the show I would posit that they've definitely not remembered the MCU because this plot line is in Doctor Strange they all call Doctor Strange out for getting access to magic that is beyond his position but he ends up like using it for good because of course he would because he tried to save the world it's essentially like left as a position of like remember she's a hypocrite the sorceress supreme or whatever because she engages in the dark magic that she told no one else can touch so like that film for all of its flaws like handled that aspect just fine this one was like fumbled all over the place I don't understand what you're trying to tell me it's like Agatha's evil why yeah and like for all of the bad things she did which is kill a maybe not real dog her punishment is being stripped of her personality and free will and being held captive basically she releases some of the people and she's like having them explain to Wanda what they've done to her and she's like all I did was cut the strings on your meat puppets it's like yeah I can't believe but you just wanted this wasn't me I'm just showing you what they are underneath the best part is how Wanda tries to kill them and then one of them says if you won't let us live just kill us and for anybody who's like hey she strangled her kids like I don't even know if they're real stop yeah I just realized something like her punishment to get like transfigurated into that personality that she was under the dome that is not under the dome meaning that yeah where does she go where was she like physically where is she because the place she was supposed to go doesn't exist anymore no Wanda took it all back at the end so if she'd locked her in the world then she would have been unlocked when it all closed down yeah the world was a physical place this is why it's so like chilling it's like she's cast a spell on her to be trapped inside a person she isn't forever until she needs her for something it's like oh my god and then I guess she'll lock her back in just kill her it's essentially a fate worse than death living a different life and dying that way like that's horrifying actually the writers don't even know what they've done they don't even know legit she literally says like it's cruel like you're cruel and it's one of those moments where you're supposed to be like nah she's manipulating Wanda it's like it's not though it's like no you really are cruel Wanda for doing this I guess I was asking if Agnes could go into her basement anti-magic runes um oh this is the problem with this show I can't tell you because I've watched it again I was paying good attention I don't know if the runes prevent active spells they just prevent you from casting new ones well I surely it will it would cancel active spells because she didn't did she set up the runes in west of you before Wanda had done the big heck she cast upon rewatching she cast them during their final battle she keeps missing quote unquote her spells I mean Agnes well so this is the thing that doesn't make any sense I don't know how Agnes got into the place in the first place and then she needed Wanda to walk into that very small space in order to prevent her from doing anything to her while teaching her about runes and I say teaching she didn't teach her shit no shapes and recreated them she doesn't even recreate by the way I showed I can get you guys immaculate memory during this really high stress situation she doesn't recreate them though I'll get you the image I showed right before that I don't know how to cast spells I don't know any of this and then she does inexplicably the red ones are what we see of Wanda's the rest are all Agathas wasn't she copying the runes in the cellar in the what apparently not cause those runes in the cellar took away Wanda's power if you look at this image right this is all the runes we see in the show the top row are all Agathas the bottom two are the ones we see of Wanda's oh ok that's a nice no no man what a match did she create her own runes none of the match so Wanda how does this make less sense than it already did Wanda was told that runes are a thing you have to cast them as spells and they prevent other witches from casting spells from that alone she managed to do it she didn't even copy the shapes sort of it what are these fucking runes then what do they mean there's spells the scarlet witch can cast spells without incantations yeah seriously the way that this power is presented it's insanely exploitable too like if you made these runes throughout the entire world you circumnavigated the globe with them would that mean you're the only person in the entire world who can cast magic um I put it on the moon and an asteroid and another asteroid we've already said it several times it destroys the mcu again she can just do this every time she fights anybody with magic which by the way I don't know if that includes or doesn't include Captain Marvel is what she does magic what if you put them on several stars on the edge of the galaxy is the galaxy stripped of magic just get them all on all the planets in the solar system earth will be covered right well that's this is where things get really messy because Captain Marvel's powers are derived from an infinity stone so were visions but now vision is back but that's another derivative kind of from a fake infinity stone and supposedly scarlet witch now her powers were amplified by it but she had them before yet they were gonna fade and yeah everything's all fucked up nobody knows what's happening anymore you can't do this like ah big reveal big trick she pretended to be a zombie what what does that mean like she made herself look like that to Agatha to just annoy her briefly how did she even do that to herself how did she know how to like pretend to make herself look all wilted after she'd cast the room I don't know because she read the script it's strictly for the audience it's some of the most classic like oh will our hero lose oh my god no they win whoo whoo who is our hero second wind where it's just like you could do it no I have the power it's ugh it's even yourself yeah so Agatha I guess if there's anymore to say about her she seemed to want to take the powers from the scarlet witch because the scarlet witch is super powerful and what she's using her powers for is trapping a whole bunch of people that she describes as being in pain has an interest in correcting so she's the good guy and she gets fucked over completely and again you can contextualize the meanest thing she does in this season in a way that's kind of harmless she's trying to tempt Wanda to use her powers so that she can sap them what better way to do that than well discounting what I said earlier threatening her imagined children to make her use her powers to start absorbing them like when you tell this all to be I'm like huh who's trying to save the town so she was yeah so she's the hero of the story and honestly she killed a dog so she's a villain I don't want to do the big suck at the end well so this is an interesting why was the dog real hundreds of years without doing anything marital as well Agatha's never shown up before so she must have been chill I guess she didn't do anything worthy of the avengers or anything she absorbed Wanda's powers she absorbed Wanda's powers would that mean she'd like to try to take over the world or would she still be chill I don't think she'd have a reason to take over the world but no she seems to like not really care about that she seems to like care more about her magic system which she keeps mostly to herself seems to simply exist yeah she reminds me of a purple man from Jessica Jones that she kind of just does her own thing with her powers doesn't attract too much attention just does stuff to either make her life easier or make her interested but she didn't do anything evil in the whole show because if it was revealed that she tricked her into going to see vision she tricked her into going to this place it wasn't vision that wrote the letter saying this is not going to be our forever home it was Agatha that wrote that and all this kind of stuff to trap her create the world that she's locked into then try and steal her powers then she's a villain but she didn't Wanda did it all they fucked up completely they think that we think that Agatha's the villain by the way throughout the final episode Wanda's casting spells in front of Agatha and she's not absorbing them at all she's just watching her the big one when she casts the super laser spell to lift the borders so that everyone can escape Agatha just watches her it's like why aren't you sucking just flying into the schlup and sucking it up and then the idea that this fucking moron Agatha tells her about runes while also establishing that she can cast spells without incantations and spontaneously maybe don't inform her about the one thing she can beat you with it's ridiculous because there really is nothing else other than just the shapes even just knowing that you can do it apparently there's no special words or incantations it's just shapes and your knowledge basically it should be ridiculous it's almost as ridiculous as like let's say Galactus comes in and he's unstoppable and he sees Wanda and he's like I better not tell her that she could imagine beating me because then how can this be satisfying how can Wanda in a fight be satisfying to watch anymore she should just dominate she can literally alter reality to her will what are we supposed to do with this I mean Doctor Strange is already powerful but clearly Wanda is more powerful than him especially if she can like ask for a project and be like two separate entities that are functioning Doctor Strange can't do that she's so much more powerful than him because you're not supposed to be this powerful it's so hard for us to be invested if you have any good guy that's got this level of power what are we supposed to do with this the threat like Galactus I guess well what the fuck's Doctor Doom gonna do against her and it's like Doctor Doom is one of the big bads and he couldn't do anything to her what don't make them this powerful I thought the limitation they were going for is that she didn't have much knowledge about it I think that that's what Agatha just thought she's got super knowledge because she's real she's broke the book and she's unlocked all the power so it's like oh boy this isn't gonna be good she has access to the multiverse remember she hears the kids voices calling for it it's like what is what is that what has happened today it's implying that her quote unquote kids are still alive or somewhere out there but it's like what is that gonna lead to wouldn't she be stealing them from an alternate version of Wanda who's probably done nothing wrong this is like we're getting into Rick and Morty now it's like what if she steals them from a universe where she died but had them as kids yeah so basically we're doing the episode of Rick and Morty where they switch dimensions the thing with that is when Rick is the only one who takes advantage of that power to specifically tailor the universe to his desires that's one thing we've got a whole universe filled with people who need stuff and Wanda can now get it for them yeah just make infinite food this again she destroys everything it sucks it's really sucks because Wanda was in a good place in terms of her power before where it's like she's really powerful she's a glass cannon you know you shoot her once in the head and that's it now it's like I don't I imagine that she's unstoppable she could like give herself diamond-hard skin if she wanted because she can just transfigure she can alter reality she can do whatever she wants so is the next Avengers movie gonna be here in Captain Marvel we could beat them the article that I've read listed that it would be you have Captain Marvel who's basically indestructible Monika who's basically indestructible Miss Marvel who can heal so she's basically indestructible Jane Foster Thor so that's pretty close to indestructible I'm trying to realize why they killed off Black Widow yeah she was indestructible she's not indestructible we can't have that but it's just I don't know why like I feel like Spider-Man is probably a good example of yeah he's super strong but like if you shot him with a gun like you'd be in a lot of trouble just do that just have it be like that where a character is really strong or like Iron Man where every time you chip away at his armor it's like he's getting closer and closer like there is a finite amount of hits he can take before he's in a lot of trouble we have a situation where unironically I'm more interested in Venture Bros. villains over Marvel Venture Bros. is one of the greatest things ever created so it's okay I agree with that imagine as well we've had such a drought with them we had Endgame it's like what the fuck happened with everything surrounding it and everything going forward we get nothing for ages and then this it's like thanks this is not inspiring it wasn't meant to be obviously because Black Widow was supposed to come out first then the Eternals and then this it was supposed to be supplementary I think back in Winter Soldier as well yep yep and this was supposed to lead into Doctor Strange like directly it was meant to be like a couple of months later you'd be watching Doctor Strange or at least yeah minimum six right so now it's what two years well Doctor Strange has been delayed by a whole year I think it's coming out like middle of next year and I mean Thor as well got delayed massively to a bunch of yeah it's out of order and I think I really feel like they can't afford to delay anymore you know what I mean like we can't keep delaying the films and have these shows come out like they do want consistency yeah there's news on that I mean because it's in Hollywood LA Movie Theatre is open on Monday oh well then we probably are going to get Black Widow then in that case I suppose this is the thing we're all going to be here we get to watch Black Widow we get to watch Black Widow jump out of a helicopter and fight Toskmaster while falling down she's a regular human by the way oh you hate with that that's dead well like it's kind of Black Widow was still alive I'd be like way more invested in her stuff than anything else just because she's like vulnerable she could be hurt it's a character it's kind of like solo you know you said on the inside though Gary yes yeah you're right it's kind of like why are we here like what are we doing this Captain America looks positively normal now he does well remember and he's like one of the big hitters in the MCU now he's just like a scrub it's just a scrub I remember Winter Soldier where he's trying to get that last key card in and he gets shot and it's like Jesus Christ he's been shot he shot my pistol like three or four times and he almost dies we can't get that anymore we can with certain well I guess that means that Hailey Steinfeld's like oh Christ that'll be it she'll be like the only normal human in this crazy universe and Falcon's supposed to be the next Captain America who can throw the shield apparently just as a regular human I don't know I don't know how to do that it makes no sense no sense at all Captain Hans that's why he can do all the fucking crazy shit with the shield even though it doesn't obey the law of physics Falcon is Falcon he's got his own character why are you trying to take away his character to give him another one Winter Soldier was a person with a reputation that preceded him and basically excluded him from society if he took the mantle and did it his own way I think there's so much more potential for that I know people argue over this who should have had the shield should it have been Winter Soldier or Falcon I'm firmly in the camp of Winter Soldier I don't know how everyone else feels Bucky should have gone I really like Sam as a character and it's like you could do interesting things but I feel like there's a lot more opportunities with Bucky to explore the ideas behind what makes Captain America and what makes a good soldier there's more to explore there's kind of a redemption story for Bucky as well through Winter Soldier I would say that I understand the idea of giving it to Sam as almost like the mantle but not the shield give the shield to Bucky someone who could use it that would be great I like what my story is making Captain Marvel, give it to her she deserves that I guess she could take the title to it I need it, I want it I'm totally cool with Sam having the mantle but I wouldn't have minded if they gave it to Bucky but also just give it to Bucky everyone hates the Winter Soldier as they should in this universe because they don't know but if he was to be like this is Captain America, the next guy who is he well his identity is a secret for his own safety and the people he loves you can do a storyline where one day it's revealed and they're like that's the Winter Soldier he's not a bad person everyone thinks he is because you have a whole storyline explaining all of it I just think there's so much more potential there than giving it to Falcon who, he's Falcon he's got his own shit, I don't know you can just let Falcon be Falcon and then have it be that Bucky is yeah, becomes a new Captain America it's not like you can't make it work but I will be fucking scrutinizing the shit out of this TV show like we've done with this one I don't see how it could be worths you know what I mean I can't see how it could be worths I do, those trailers are dreadful those trailers are so generic trust me I'm not optimistic about this show like WandaVision surely it'll be better than WandaVision surely it'll be a two out of ten instead of the one I can't wait for their staring contest scene well I think that will be better because it won't be full of magic nonsense bullshit, like it'll be comprehensible hopefully it'll be grounded in character but is that worse than magic breaking the universe though I'll take it even not understanding anything definitely I was just writing it tell me the plan tell me the plan actually that might actually be a legit good joke because he jumps out of the thing and is winging it that's the plan maybe did you say he's winging it because he's Falcon I get it I think that's the joke so you don't have a plan and then he jumps out and he flies away with his massive wings I think the plan is to wing it I think that's a clever joke but if he's Captain America then he's not winging it because he's not Falcon anymore I'm Captain America-ing it he's still got wigs I want to wait until it's out I'm hoping that it will be more coherent than WandaVision give me that I think it probably will be who knows what they do the fact that it's not got magic tied to it gives us a good start we're assuming it won't have magic tied to it and I know it seems like a safe assumption they did have a clip recently that referenced Wizards so I'm just going to point that out the writer of Falcon Winter Soldier has done Empire Written it's an empire it's like a music is that a I'm not hearing towers in it somebody's sort of punching my keyboard I haven't typed anything truth be told that's probably me and hip hop undercover hip hop undercover empire and truth be told so he's done something he's sounding a bit sicker well Falcon because he's black they have a woman writing the woman Jesus man this is oh my god this is it somebody is mentioning that empire was juicy small juicy small juicy small juicy small is that his rap name juicy small fibrous French actor juicy all the people who weren't actually attacked say juicy small um coming back to that scene the blip scene when you have the doctor telling your mom she died honey it's like oh my god the potential we can do this for everyone in the world we need like a movie that's strictly about civilians dealing with the blip I would watch it it would be great it would be interesting and you even as she's reassembling from kooky dust you hear quotes from captain marvel and I think that was where the show was trying to tell us like you're not gonna like this by the end sorry she was sneaking in doing a sneak and I think episode 4 is where it I think starts to crash the show one of the reasons I found being they start repeating information to you quite a bit because they don't trust that you've even been able to like watch what we've seen so far they're like how could maybe those were for the writers as they were writing it to remind themselves as they went the writers know it became the dialogue it's like they put so much effort into explaining how any of the things we've seen so far and it's like man that's all of the even like anything I had to think about is already gone now so like those parts of the episode is already meh as in like ooh she found that helicopter what does it mean and it's like well she sent it in and it's like well why wasn't it black and white when everything gets to and a lot of the dialogue yeah that's well so that was a that was nothing like they only had it in color to make us go ooh it's in color how strange everything's supposed to be era appropriate and converted when it goes through so that didn't happen except for those things which yeah once again another payoff that had a super interested that ultimately was contradicted and meant nothing none they're like hooray what about the blood what did that mean I forget it's not anything he was in color he was in black and white yeah I feel like we skimmed over it really quickly but Monica was pretty stupid to like put her hand on this weird force field oh yeah I was gonna get to that so she sees nothing go in and disappear alien covenant levels are stupid well who is like what are you doing then they do the thing where she just keeps going she never justifies any of it she's like I'm doing this we need it to happen she's rewarded with super mega powers for her incredible bravery and he barely reacts at first she's like Monica let's talk about we're tangent everywhere and I kind of like it so I'm okay with it so Monica walks in for no reason because why the fuck you see stuff disappearing and then everyone's minds getting erased apparently and everyone in there is being forgotten about all of that is very concerning right but then she comes out because Wanda found out she's not a part of this world which is to me kind of weird in retrospect it's like well nobody technically is you change all their minds to be that so why would I guess she's like your mind shouldn't have this information it's like so why don't you wipe it like you did everyone else that's why are you treating us like she needs to leave I thought the idea there was a little bit more interesting or intricate like the anybody from outside west view is something else maybe the people there aren't even people you know all the different ways this story could have gone but it's literally just nah she just doesn't like it because she mentioned Ultron but like anyone could potentially do that well this is the thing throughout the show they all partially break it sometimes here and there and sometimes there's no reasoning for it other than just you know it's kind of yeah it sort of happens you know all right so fast forward to knowing that you have to pass through the barrier three times question mark to get superpowers so nobody in the show passes through it three times other than moniker so they're covered with that but everybody travels through it at least once so everyone sells a fuck on a molecular level I can't even say weak superpowers just they just get decently powerful superpowers I think the best you could give them is that if you get sucked in once nothing changes and if you get forcefully ejected then things get a little flimpy and then if you go in the third time you get superpowers what happens if you go in a fourth time it's stupid you turn to jelly you just become a deity you become the blob it's the exact same shit they did in Captain Marvel where it's like they have superpowers because reasons this doesn't really have any connective tissue at all like I don't see how any of this works so someone might be like well when has it ever made sense getting hit with gamma rays getting bit by radioactive spider I don't know these things seem to have a lot more connective tissue than force field that everyone else passing through to radioactivity alters the structure of your body and spider bites do actually do shit to you like super serum injections like we inject people with things to literally make them stronger that's real so that's intuitive it sort of follows from from logic I think it's just think about all of the sort of main characters we've had so far Iron Man builds his suit after he realises that the weapons that he created were being used for evil purposes so it's like that's pretty cool Captain America earns the right to become a super soldier because he is of good moral fiber he is just a good man Thor has to earn his powers back by learning to have some humility and of course Bruce Bannagas powers by doing experiments that he you know it was his experiments that he was doing Doctor Strange his hands got destroyed so we had to learn how to create magic I guess Ant-Man's a little bit less but even Ant-Man's got like more of a connection is it similar to Cap in terms of he was given the suit because they believe that he's the right man for the job and even if you do like the whole Spider-Man thing it's like yeah it was coincidence though not that he shot an engine and then it splashed him in space goo these are all accidents that like have nothing to do with the journeys Captain Marvel didn't even know why she shot that engine she was like I don't know to keep it from you guys having it it's like what is it what do you even think that means and the big thing is like how do you so a radioactive spider bites Spider-Man so he gets spider powers okay I shot a space engine from the Tesserac therefore I can shoot lasers out of my hands and survive that space and I'm invulnerable and I can travel faster than light now there are a few connective thoughts missing here yeah and as for Monica you're like well if you guys didn't know that she was gonna have superpowers right and you said she went through the barrier three times and she gained powers what do you think they would be it's like I have no idea I don't know what I'd have to think about it honestly meanwhile like a spider what could you imagine like maybe some kind of like ability to crawl onto surfaces that would be unusual maybe like webbing is involved in some way maybe heightened senses I don't know proportional strength yeah that could be yeah and to me it just comes across as like I don't know they worked a little harder to make this light up instead of so now because she went through the barrier three times she can travel at the speed of presumably sound I don't know how fast she can travel it's really fucking fast if she could create force fields I could buy like if she went through the force field and could create now barriers and force fields to protect people I can understand that but she's got these vague I can now let bullets shit out my ass powers you know my eyes glow and I can do superhero landing pose now if I was going to give her a power give her the power to like create barriers yeah because it would make at least more sense sense yeah like I passed through this magical barrier three times which is the magic number so I get to like create I can do like violet from the Incredibles I could like create force field barriers and I could deal with she has the ability to pass through walls or something as well maybe yeah that sort of lines up she can turn to jelly involving barriers and walls you know she can she can move really fast she can see energy in the world I guess it's not really clear what that is she's like seeing energy and electricity it's like okay that doesn't really go anywhere and yeah and she can she can turn to jelly bullet proof because bullet and she's not even like bullet proof the bullets go into her and then they slow down and they go out of her at the other side it's a really thick jelly like a just what a what it's like sludge it's like MCU sludge in a person that's an incredibly useful power that isn't very sexy it's a weird power that she didn't know she had well you know what I should save that conversation we could do it now I guess I was coming up with this last night I did it with Fringy so he's not going to be able to do it this time around but basically I guess I'll describe the events of the scene and then it'll be up to you guys to see if you can spot all of the floors the least the ones that I found and then we can add more to them if you want but it's like a fun little um a sort of guessing game I would I would suppose like I've got I think 10 so the the scene goes that um Wanda's children manage to mind control the soldiers in the area to not fire their weapons and also take their weapons from them and then Haywood seeing this gets out of his truck and shoots and before anyone comments or anything right I'm just describing the events as are he shoots and Monica says no and gets in the way the bullets go through here sludge wise and then we were at the point where um Haywood is like oh my goodness and then tries to leave um if you guys remember that scene I'm going to put on screen all of the uh the issues as I saw them and see between you if you can guess them all we'll do it like a little I'll just tick them as I go everyone who's watching the stream can see them you guys aren't allowed to look all right you guys gotta try and guess them all we can't look well I'm going to put all of the issues as I found them on the screen and so chat can see them and I will cross them off okay so we I won't look okay won't look all right so again we can't look at the scene or the list oh you can look at the scene if you want just don't look at the the stream oh okay okay I don't have the stream maybe I get my chat covering yeah there's a whole this this should be fun all right so chat you can sort of he's shooting he's shooting between the children is like I shall not readjust his aim like he shoots in the middle of them and then he keeps shooting at at Monica even though he could readjust and murder the children that way the criticism they would be that he's like missing all of his shots almost deliberately he is yeah there's a couple things specifically with the gun firstly the slide is CGI I think they didn't just marvel with their kajillions of dollars they didn't give him blanks to shoot which would have been very very convincing the slide is just sort of CGI not only that but he seems to be surprised that he can run out of bullets and also the slide doesn't lock back when he empties the last shot when he's clearly using a clock big oversight why didn't the kid take his gun if they took everyone else's gun why wouldn't he throw his gun if everyone else was frozen why did Monica Rambo decide to shit the bullets out of her arsehole yeah I would categorize that one I would categorize that one as just she had no idea that was a power she had and it's something that enables everything to happen it's why did her eyes glow blue I guess it's worth keeping why does she value the lives of like they're not even lives why did she understands that these kids are inventions of Wanda's powers in her mind they're not real why would she put her why would she essentially risk her life I guess she believed that she would die to protect these kids which you wouldn't know he's got like a dozen plus shots he would just shot you and then them how does he think he can hit the speedy one if the speedy one can move faster again also why didn't the speedy one take out his gun before he was shooting how come the one who could see visions or just flick the bullets out the air like we already saw about seven years ago in an X-Men movie with Evan Peters did the one who could see visions did he not did he not see them coming did he not know that this guy would be coming out to shoot him I've summarized them as just neither of the children do anything with all of the power they have for some reason where's Wanda where's Vision Wanda's fighting Agatha with visions fighting come Vision yeah which is weird you think that they would be a lot more protective of the kids in that situation why is he shooting children I don't know if we got that that means really out of the point I'm evil I'm just going to shoot children now why do children are threats he doesn't know if they're real children or fake children take out his men admittedly it's like the most they haven't harmed any of them they've been pacified they haven't been killed there's no reason to shoot them there's no reason to shoot them at all I love how he looks so dumbfounded when he runs out of bullets gun know how bullied bullet shoot fire so when a chat has one bullet from asshole someone chats asking would Monica die to save Sparky I hope so I hope so it was Agatha I've only got three left and they might not be considered but go ahead keep shooting if you can think of any way why don't any of them do anything to stop him driving away that one I'm considering him driving away is like moving on to the next I'm cutting it off at him looking at his gun being surprised he's out of bullets which is one of them that's what I was saying what are we here to be arrested for are we too past are we getting a bit like I said we can talk about it in a bit but that's outside of this scene let me take a look here so the soldiers do not have guns at this point the other soldiers look at the screen though because I don't want to see the list why didn't Kat Dennings why did Kat Dennings come from how did she get to the barrier why didn't she stop him with her tits there's like six more issues as soon as we move past this scene I was going to say I don't want to make you guys desperately try and figure out what I've picked up so I may as well just say this one of the last ones I've got is which we kind of covered just like how the fuck did she travel at the speed of light that's just suddenly a new power she has which is kind of covered with the jelly stuff if the children can be torn to pieces and reassembled like why would we care that they're going to get shot and why would he think that that's going to do anything why would anyone like wise why would Wanda let them have the ability to get shot so yeah I was going to say from an audience perspective and from the kids like why would we why would bullets do anything to them why are the stakes high for us in that point and then simultaneously if he doesn't know that those children of like a assembly people that just makes everything he's doing worse what the fuck is he up to with the whole killing children which you just mentioned isn't his endgame to like be known as a hero if he's known it's killing the kids that's going to like ruin everything right they will call him child killer another strong one another significant one the strong he still doesn't know that Hayward empties the mag that means he shot every single bullet even after the first one went through Rambo why did he continue that Glock he has probably hold 16 rounds why did he continue shooting when Rambo was in the way that's one of his soldiers why wouldn't he just move the gun to the left or the right and shoot the kids why the fuck does he want to kill her this is like doomsday lasers again she's annoying she's annoying and she's stoned lots of things oh because she assaulted his men well funnily enough you wouldn't know about that because they got converted into clowns so oh well everyone in the show got converted to clowns yeah he was the only one he escaped before even finding out that any of that happened but yeah but I was just going to say like imagine so fire's that first one it's like when a slow motion it slips through like the jelly he has to go buh buh buh buh buh buh buh he has to continue firing while seeing her and then get upset because he ran out of bullets what the fuck most of the bullets don't even hit the children they're all heading to her yeah they're hitting I'm looking at the scene right now they would have gone right between the kids yep it's almost like you wanted to kill her so he could hit monica 16 times without just moving the gun and putting one in each kid just to make sure you still got 14 for you really wanted to yeah when that stops the bullet you could go the last one I've got is are we going to go with unconscious bias yeah that's systematic racism I think that's the last one I've got is no he's a villain he has conscious bias ah good point the last one I've got for a buddhist nitpick is just like why did your outfit into jelly as well like how does that why is it that we're in a world where shows think the outfit went through the barrier yeah but sorry does that mean that in future films when she turns into jelly like there'll be also what the outfit gained jelly power like the container outfit only went through once yep like I don't think not it's just it's stupid well the outfit is less complex than a human being so it only takes one pass through to give it powers but the other one didn't have that happen so here's the thing I don't know what to say she walked through a barrier she got positively affirmed everybody you know if you listen to if you go look at the at the you know at the close captions it's all like you're the best you are the best of the best the most stunning person ever so there's that symbol 17 shots of her standing up yep and she is now like the number three most powerful superhero in the MCU with absolutely undefined powers again just googly goc light powers I mean she has explained powers in the comic books that have changed like seven times in the last 20 years but the electromagnetic three characters in the MCU now MCU undefined wibbly wobbly powers yes it's um at least with the Avengers the characters the whole Captain America Iron Man Thor even there was a definition of their power I guess that would be the point of having a team it's like with a point of having a team is generally to have people with different skill sets I mean it's kind of like fantastic for it's probably the clear example of that right each of them have like one core ability that they have and all of them are complimentary or like it's nobody is encroaching on everybody else whereas it's like Captain Marvel or Monica kind of almost like exactly they might as well be the same except for the jelly thing it feels like they're just both destructible generic superheroes yeah generic it is there's no defined limitations or anything there's nothing like unique even about how their powers operate it's just kind of like the same gobbly gook they have wibbly wobbly kind of powers just sort of whatever they can do they can do so much on the uh the the that scene we're just talking about the scene where it said that Hayward shooting the twins is justified they're using lethal force on his men standard rules of engagement will always allow that his men are now defenseless and the twins have control of weapons and powers it's not about whether or not it would be procedurally allowed it's obviously an ethical complaint about his character he immediately gets sound just like if a child has like a butcher's knife and is running around the room screaming or something you'd be like well they could hit someone they could kill someone it's like yeah but most humans he's gonna shoot the fucking kid it is bizarre that he would do that it comes across as fucking wrong it's just like he's so and he's like not he doesn't he doesn't have the look on his face of like this is something I have to do it's more so why aren't you dying yeah i'm the fuck and usually you aim at the threat um educate your son educate your sons did they even use lethal force well they think so you can call it violence in this weird area of they've taken the power away well that's the other thing if you're observing the situation they make the man unable to shoot them and so to be like yeah but they they get any moment to turn all the guns on us and shoot us I just be like I mean but I feel like they would have done that by now surely like they clearly they like high five and they're like woo you know these kids aren't a threat they're just trying to prevent you from shooting their parents they're just big yeah and themselves I guess as well they don't want to get shot they can't turn into group like Monica yeah this is the thing I think you could have had a hyper villainous character decide to well here's an example I think a Mysterio when he decides that um if he doesn't kill these teenagers then the word will get out potentially that he's fooling the world about his position as a hero and so he gets really pissed off because they're gonna have to kill them he doesn't want to but if he's gonna protect the illusion if you will that's a hell of a lot stronger than these kids they've just protected themselves from my army of armed soldiers I'm gonna have to kill them that Mysterio cared more about chilling kids than this guy this like agent for the government's like wow that's that's a thought and by the way up through you know became director uh had to know Nick Fury probably been there for two decades yeah and at least Mysterio is a villain like Haywood's confusing he's a guy who is trying to do the right thing for the world by getting control over vision and saving these people from Wanda you're like okay I understand he's just doing all these weird things and it's like this could only be explained if he was just a straight up bad guy it's like he is you're like he is what do you mean why is that also Agnes is the villain too we're missing a few steps here what stop Wanda's alright though stop it stop it was Agatha oh la la no it wasn't I even killed Sparky too yeah um I if I was to tweak the scene I you need it to be that Haywood is defeated it's like I guess you do that to all of his men I don't know I think you have to have him be defeated with an argument instead of him trying to shoot you you block the bullets and then you ram a car into him that's good timing that she was there to ram the car into him as well oh yeah that's well very good time I suppose moving on to that yeah it's all terrible and it's so cartoony she's like you're going to jail bud and he's like oh oh wait with it too if it wasn't for you kids and because in the um I have the credits and you're dark too kind of free people from entrapment in the after credits you see him getting taken away and it's like you pesky boy you're going to jail and then you're just like what was the conversation like we came in to try and save people and then Wanda used all of her powers to mind control my men he could even say myself yeah what's the charge this is the thing so like even though he was shooting kids at least his defense could be we were under attack from metahumans that were disguised as kids but they were constructs so we don't know if they were children or if they were um 11 and so he could make this argument and they were keeping the hostage and torturing them we have the benefit of seeing it all has it happened but if you're describing this event like they took all of our weapons and mind controlled us I had a chance to take a shot and I did it it's not unreasonable why why why why were you arrested I don't know um so yeah Hayward from start to finish it seems to be he wants vision's body he wants to recreate the weapon to use it against potential future threats well that's fine with me um like the vision was a person you have to respect that he doesn't want his body to use it that way it's like right well that's just going to get into that's that's a whole movie right there like if you want to go to like the ethics of whether or not his bodily autonomy should be respected at death when he's a three billion dollar hyper weapon project it's like more powerful than anything we have on earth I don't know um Hayward has obviously chosen I almost feel like that's I almost feel like that's vision like it's a it's a hit on this character to say that no you can't do anything with my body it comes back to he doesn't trust they would use it he might be like I'm uncomfortable with what you might do with it but at the same time dude like earth was almost destroyed by Thanos recently like what do you that's the whole point of like the Avengers is that we're outgunned and everything and we need to we need the advantages we can get and so yeah and and I guess it leads us to again this this should be a discussion we should have characters fighting on both sides this could be a whole thing but it's not instead it's vision wanting to do that yeah and instead we've got vision didn't want you to do that and you did it so I would say the show from the get-go is like he's evil look at him he's tearing vision's body apart it's like well I mean he's a machine it's just it is a body I don't know how to feel about it I'm like there are there are reasons to do this there are reasons to study it there are reasons to try and reassemble it especially in trying times such as the five-year gap Avengers reassemble yes disgusting like how there's a lot of technology involved with him there's like revolutionary stuff that's like worth studying so it's like there's reasons for why he's doing it it's not because he's just evil yeah this is a big deal it's not just we get more technology you know it's like that that means a lot you know it's like the economy is not just a number like technology allows for all kinds of different things and to deny people the ability to advance in that kind of way that's that shaky territory blame was going on to say as well there will be combat situations in real life it's not fun to think about where you might actually have to shoot a child before they can do something to you and this thing Ev you you showed with with South Wormia extraction right and there is a mode in that film Rambo where he's he's killing lots of enemy soldiers but one of them he realizes right before killing them is like I don't even know how old they are they're like in their teens I guess younger 10 like they're pretty young super young and he opts to personally to disarm them and then like I don't know if he knocks them out or he doesn't kill them is the point now that's strictly what I'm judging this from it's not whether or not he be justified procedurally or in a court or whatever I'm looking at the character in the scene and if Chris Hemsworth in that scene decided to shoot the kid I don't think I would have actually been like well that's ridiculous he would never do that I would have been more like that was tough though something he had to do because the kid was about to shoot him that sort of logic but with Hayward it's so weird he doesn't even look like he understands what's happening and his men like I said have been disabled from from being able to shoot these people the kids are like joyfully celebrating their defeat of the of the evil soldiers and then he's just like boom boom boom boom it's hard to see what's going through his mind like it doesn't seem like he's trying to save his men or anything like that he just shows up with the gun and shoots and he's got this how to make him evil because they needed a villain for Monica Rambo to defeat well I guess what I'm trying to say is like I would have preferred if the scene was like he has all these men he's talking to them on his thing and gradually one by one they're all getting mind controlled and disabled to the point where they may even be aiming the guns at fellow soldiers yeah and he's like and he seems dressed out and he's like I've got to shoot them and he does but then Monica this way more interesting things that could have happened here they had the potential for a really like interesting scene where the kids because they're just kids and this is like a combat situation with guns and soldiers and they think it's like cool and fun and nifty and so they like take the guns and start pointing them at people with their powers and then they just get lit up by him and it's supposed to be like this oh my goodness gracious oh these kids they know that's what happens they don't want to they're terrified of that yeah and this is what I think I think the motivation behind it was we have to make Haywood super duper evil and yeah this is the thing I think if they had made it a complicated situation where he was absolutely justified to have shot the children the show writers would feel they failed we would be like what an interesting dramatic scenario is that they were willing to do this and we could have something to talk about and explore so it's terrifying those kinds of things nah it's like you're nice and generic yeah and so I guess we're with Haywood so that's his initial thing he finds out Wanda wants the body and he even has concerns that she'll reanimate him he like makes illusions to that and then he's just like let me show you something your loved ones corpse in pieces what why it's so weird and then she you see we're using the bandsaw on this part I don't know if like I don't know if he was he wanted to to piss her off yeah I kind of thought he was trying to get her to reanimate him showing your loved one like Dexter Morgan cutting up their corpse in order to appease them it's literally that they saw him at the time why it's so it's so weird the writer just think I'm going to use their language here the baseline is all males are toxic and that's just what a guy would that's just what a man would do well the show definitely doesn't provide any kind of like sense that what they're doing is reasonable they're like it's horrifying look at them it's like I mean I don't know how to I'm trying to think of like a star in real life feel like you're not prepared to have these conversations showmaker person if we had a future with mechanical organs like fully functioning mechanical organs were a thing but they don't depreciate over time they're like that's the level of technology I think repo men I think repo men is kind of where my brain's going because well this will be relevant in a second so if I had like mechanical kidneys and maybe a mechanical stomach or something but unfortunately I you know I'm in a car accident my head goes through into something just fucking smashed but my body's still intact if they were like you know we need those kidneys packed because we can save people's lives with them I'd be like I mean yeah oh repo men I thought you were talking about repo man sorry oh it's the repo I think that is wait there's a couple of them right there's the original and then there's a few remakes repo the repo man repo man repo man yeah repo shake from the 80s and I guess it's repo men right right uh yeah okay um so like I not saying that's the same situation but there's a conversation to be had right and we just don't get it instead like his body is remarkably intact considering it's been around for five years and only now they're taking the limbs apart and stuff yeah yeah I think we mentioned that like I don't see how this only started up now should have been ages ago there's a missing storyline there did someone prevent them from getting his body for five years was it was it like Tony it's that sounds interesting like anything after endgame is gonna have to be preceded by hours long discussion of the blip I mean five thing you know I love their work on civil war but rusez what the fuck you made a five-year gap with the most significant events of this world took place and you didn't tell anybody what they were what the hell do you think there'll be a roadmap or something just anything they would have given to future people the world would descend into man I mean look at us over a pandemic if half the world just went missing the next day the problem is that um I mean fundamentally the snap that's like dude society like is forever changed a lot of countries are crumbling like this is just chaos that's the story of itself what happened how the people disappeared it's absolutely a story in and of itself you probably could have made three movies just have it yeah and then the middle one is like the consequences of it and then endgame well we've already seen it we've got we had leftovers yeah yeah um I always argue that the infinity war and endgame stuff should have been a trilogy and like that yeah that middle chapter should have been like a vengeance aftermath or something where it's just them trying to pull everything back together I think yeah I think um I think you could endgame sucks um and you could salvage endgame I like endgame I mean that that's not as good as infinity war but I still think it's an enjoyable film I understand why people enjoy it I'm more appealing to just like that I think that there's a lot that's wrong with it and I think that you can easily fix it by one we need to see the consequences of the snap we need to treat it seriously and um maybe spend a lot of time on that and maybe Tony and Cap's relationship and then like endgame can be them actually trying to solve the problem but no time travel please just something else I don't know yeah um it makes me wonder as well with the whole the Tony aspect I don't think he would have given vision up um he has he has a big level of a friendship with vision and uh he also cares about him being someone who'd probably be potentially torn apart by a government and then I could picture Tony being invested in trying to repair him and we discover that um good old sword have the potential to bring vision back online so I imagine Tony does and uh yeah why wouldn't he have done all of that himself in the time between because he was getting close as well in Wakanda they were getting close to allowing him to function autonomously without the stones so why not just um well he's the thing yeah we're told that vision doesn't because this is what I thought it was uh ringing a ghost you'll find this interesting I don't think it's vision giving him his memories of vision over it's him unlocking vision he says like your visions of your your memories are behind a wall in your head and presumably hey would put it up meaning like using recovery software to get like yeah like he's unlocked his memories when he touches his head that does that somehow I don't fucking know how but like the point being you can recreate vision without the stone is what they're saying we know that yes because well but also didn't yeah but we knew that right didn't Shuri Shuri was going to remove the stone while keeping his really intact yeah what I'm saying is that it was pulled out and so the idea is like well it would have happened but you know you've taught is yeah you've ruined your chance but it's like no you haven't actually you just need to repair him which kind of takes away from his death doesn't it that seemed to be final it seemed to be like their one chance was to get the stone out and then maybe they would like the best parts of vision would remain but now it's like no without the stone you could just make him again it's like all the deaths have been on done all the deaths have been on done that's wonderful well you can you know all the deaths in endgame there's still there right you know because Cap and Iman contractually don't want to return that's the only reason they stay dead the idea that that's the only way that they're dead is if it's like no I'm done damn it we can't make more money all right I don't know if it's we've definitely been set outside of this stream but the Loki death was significant the Gamora death was significant and the vision death was significant all three of them are back in some way so really can fuck with your perception of infinity war if you rewatch it you'd be like well they'll be fine just get black widow's dead she's still dead she's got her own movie which is going to be absolutely I have no interest in why do I want to watch a movie about someone who's now dead for me it's like I'm curious how much they're going to damage the time of course she's not going to fucking die because we know that so what's the stakes maybe they'll fuck with the stakes for me how much they're going to damage the MCU with it they could explore a little bit of what happened after civil war that might be nice like seeing her on the run but this film should have been her and Hawkeye this should have been the film where Hawkeye is sent to kill her instead of killing her he decides not to he decides to take a chance on her and give her the benefit of the doubt this should be the story of the beginning of her redemption and somebody believing in her and her friendship, her bond that she has with Hawkeye that takes them through right to infinity war where they literally fight each other for the honour of dying in the other person's place no we're not we're going to get fucking what's the magic in a suit going look at me I'm kind of fat but I still fit into my suit laugh joke MCU joke fat Russian that's what we're going to get we should have had the beauty pest story that's what we should have had yeah but we need new movies we need future movies alright we need to set up the new black widow but that wouldn't be such a cool story yeah it would have been but we're not in the business of cool stories we're in the business this is Disney we're talking about yeah we don't do that here we don't do cool stuff we don't man look hey fat they fit suit though he laughs with MCU what are those audience excellent comedy bad news sneakers moving on with Haywood because I do want to make a few more points about him right like swords operation outside of the dome is retarded yes the first we see of them is obviously here pooping the drone in that's a basic thing that I'm totally okay with when we see the whole base is set up this camera and it shows three or four more drones going in and just never coming back basically implying ever since monica disappeared with the knowledge from woo about the drone they've just been walking drones into the thing and losing them forever just consistently it's like okay you might want to stop doing that guys it's called a pattern you might want to try something else for example all of the things monica comes up with because she's the only person with a brain apparently she's like let's figure out what the barrier has in terms of like energy you can find things that are resistant to it and she says I need something that's lined with and then mentions a bunch of materials you would assume that you'd create some kind of maybe block of that and then push it forward on a pole and see if it like make a drone out of it whatever but they never do that interestingly with her truck that she has specifically made for her by people who aren't loyal to Haywood is how it's described I guess they're just around and they are a utility that can be accessed freely and they ask nothing in return and loyal to her mother this is all under the radar I guess and this is after monica and you know company beat up those people in a state oh yeah I'm getting I'm trying to find a way to specifically why I'm bringing up that truck is that it has like a glass pane in front of it for her to see through and it's like wait isn't that gonna get converted and they're all curious as to why it doesn't work I presume they try to because like there's tires on it and it's like why won't the tires go through cause the tires how quickly did they did they just like have this like very unique design ready to go I thought the implication was that they actually created it for her which is even worse because how do you keep all this off the books this is great base for the people who got kicked out to go to and do the wrong thing I think cost as much as vision did I mean yeah it's all absurd and she came up with all of it saw doesn't try any of this they're pathetic throughout this whole thing they don't try anything obvious they try to send a guy down into the sewer and underground to see if it doesn't get hit by the force fields like why wouldn't you push something like a drone in first that way push a guy in and this gets called out they're like why are you using an agent I think Hayward just said something like give some like crappy answers yeah some stupid bad guy in charge person terrible like why won't you guys do all the obvious stuff all the obvious ways to test it and then I guess to push forward further on Hayward he's got some really like just bizarre dialogue where she calls him a coward because he wants to kill Wanda if you remember he has so he still had to organize this you know Rambo says that he doesn't trust her and that he's been looking for a reason to get her off this project the whole time the time to do that would have been when she came back through the barrier you tell her she has to go to a hospital you're off this you're compromised we don't know what's happened to you in there you didn't have authorization or something the bloods and scans from her come back like unintelligible basically had something happen to her there's more significant than anybody ever biologically we don't know what's wrong with it like you need to go to a hospital you could die at any moment but no um she just carries on it's like that would have been the time to dismiss her you have plenty of reason to do it instead he keeps her on he has her pilot the drone that he plans to kill Wanda with why would you do that? it's a drone with a gun strapped to it yep the 80s drone I guess it's worth mentioning the only reason they're able to get the drone in and control it is because it's from the 80s that doesn't make any sense I don't understand any like we talked about drone from outside like you need the specific tv to match the frequency like why do things from the time period need to fit how does any of this so okay so the way to put this I've talked it for you about it I guess I'll just have to go over it strictly quickly again so the force field is going to convert anything from outside to an area appropriate thing inside that means Wanda is somehow aware of what is appropriate otherwise because the spell comes from her desires so I don't know how else it would work how is it that the drone is defined as an 80s drone when the pieces it was made from could have been made at any other time like how does it figure this shit out what if the drone was broken into its component parts and moved through the wall and they were all made in the 70s what does it do then I was about to say also like people I guess it converts them into like appropriate like status and like close but a mindset from the right era if you had a pen that was like made in the 80s and you had one that was like made today but it was it's the same type of pen same material yeah same design same material or would it just be the same pen even though it was technically made today yeah so if you could just make something that looked like that would the paint go away okay well they got I guess they keep yeah because if the pens d age right if you if the pen goes back to being an 80s pen when all the adults just go back to being children I have no idea how any of it makes sense yeah I was made in the 90s they all treated it as so easy to understand well of course if the drone is from the 80s like what do you mean it's from the 80s it's from now you mean you created it in the 80s is that what you mean they took it from like a somewhere else like it was old or something like that you could walk through the barrier then so let's say I made a hammer in this I guess this funny because it gets brought up right if I made a hammer in the 80s that I replaced the handle in the 90s what era is this hammer from this is the exact same thing that was the vision thing again yeah who fucking goes and I love that he sneaks a fucking missile launcher onto it like what how the hell did Rambo not realize that was there why would he have it pilot it if that was going to be a thing he would do and he knows that she doesn't want to do anything to Wanda why would you have it pilot it I guess she's also an experienced drone pilot it's a fucking joystick just you don't need someone who's super how could there not be someone on the sword base that knows how to pilot something on a joystick with a screen she's just going forward back left right and they have plenty more of these stupid 80s drones so worst case scenario they just have to do it again the one person who shouldn't pilot that is piloting it her mom built sword from the ground up she went to Home Depot she got her tool set and she built everything let's say she wanted to be an astronaut she was a very good pilot there was no one better very good pilot but she died five years ago cancer so how she did it I don't know it's uh it fries your brain thinking about how any of this works um so in response to this decision to try and kill Wanda she calls he would a coward and his response right so I have like I'm just tired of people in charge being idiots um and this this isn't just procedurally this is socially they're so inept his response to her saying don't be a coward is maybe it's a good thing you weren't here when your mother died oh my good god like I was like what do you what do you think that accomplishes why would you say that maybe Hollywood that means maybe Hollywood's whole frame of reference of people in charge is the people in Hollywood in charge that might make a little bit of sense but it is though isn't it it really is because they're all you're all of five mind if you're here and you know that she's a loose cannon she believes in Wanda and she hates you why would you say oh you probably shouldn't have been here when your mum died because you clearly can't handle this it's like motherfucker just fire her my dudes I'm I'm going to have to take off now because I've got to get back to working on my next video no problems there thank you very much for joining us and sharing your thoughts on a wonderful TV show to improve the media landscape once again you're called WandaVision do you want to tell people what you're up to on your channel and why they should go subscribe so I make videos on movies and stuff as well just did a Mulan review very late but it's good check it out we're only working on the video on seeers movie about autism have you guys heard about this yeah if you haven't heard about it you should look into it because it's quite a is it pro or anti autism well it's meant to be pro autism but it's unintentionally very anti autism because I'm not pro autism the best kind of cringe basically I have to see this don't pay for it just don't support it just watch the trailer and you'll get the idea long story short they cast a non-autistic actress to play an autistic character and they also wrote and performed the autistic character in quite a stereotypical way so a lot of people were very annoyed by it that's not the only problem with the film but it's bad cringe it's not even good cringe I've seen some clips it's very like what the fuck were they thinking it's called music okay great name for a film I know right but yeah I'm going to take off thank you guys for having me on nice to meet those of you I haven't already I hope the rest of the stream goes very well and no more you know ear rape from rags no promises I'm right next to him too so I got a full very scared that's why you're looking at him that way yeah I'm just a little bit take care bye so the next funny thing for like the sword timeline there is that they find that the drone is delivered back to them by Wanda to take a small detour the energy attached to that drone allows them to power up the vision bot what I don't understand like why the Wanda are still around it like it just stays with it why does it work that way when yeah because magic I don't have a fucking clue and if the idea if that was something that because he says like analyze that immediately pretty funny to think about right because they're trying to set up that he's going to find out everything he needs to know about how he can power up vision stuff however why wouldn't they have done that with those when they came back through anything couldn't they like send something into the dome and like on a string and pull it back like I know it turned like the the rope that was on the beekeeper to like jump rope but could you not that back and then extract that from whatever you pulled out well like I said we don't we got an example they have a clothing and if you remember who's the person that decides to actually even look at the consistency of the material in the clothing it's Monica no one else was like should we analyze this hey this clothing has been through the barrier back and forth it's changed like it literally didn't exist oh by the way fuck me it's so dumb she takes out Woo's gun and fires it on the base to prove that it's Kevlar when right next to the fucking clothing is an analysis of it that says 80 percent Kevlar why wouldn't you just point to that that would cause a scene in that base you would get people being like what the hell guns shooting it's like alarms go off you can't just shoot a gun in a base it's not even her gun there's so many things pop I'm pretty sure she will be fucked over like like they would be like you can't do that you you're gonna be reprimanded the things will happen because you've done that discharge firearms in the office right that's you can't do that what a waste of ammo to get also who gave you a gun oh she took it from Woo yeah I was testing it see I thought it was Kevlar so I shot it we know that's why we wrote it's Kevlar on the board right next to it also why are you shooting these things this is not yours it's insane just really wanted to look like it was her idea it's also weird that uh I think honestly she says like it's 80 percent Kevlar and it's like how is her entire outfit that when only her clothing was only the vest was Kevlar you know how to be like such a high it's not really that important but um if anybody was analyzing her clothes the first thing you discover is like holy fuck this is hard why wait put it under a scanner it's 87 percent Kevlar what the fuck these things how wow we should look into this how did this get transmuted into something else like this is super weird we need to learn how this happened and uh yeah she solved all of her problems I know they was very heavy I presume it's supposed to it compared to what you think it would be um and yeah it's really frustrating that I know they want their protagonist to have all of the moments of figuring things out but it makes everyone else incredibly stupid and it's really annoying does she even ask if she can no she doesn't even ask she just does it does it she walks her permission she's thinking about stuff and she thinks about how things transform and then she just walks off woo and uh and screechie face follow her she pulls out woo's gun and just shoots it and they're all like what the fuck and then she's like yeah the bullets bounced off because it's Kevlar they didn't bounce back and hit us well this is this is why I mean my eye it's so frustrating if I had lost all my brain cells and decided to just shoot the clothing that was drying or whatever I would at least go hey do you mind or something like that just a few steps here why is it that drone has goo on it but nothing else has it's so weird maybe it's that Wanda like physically grabbed it and then brought it back but it's like and I don't know why there's goo on it in the first place and I don't know why it stays it's just random how do you convert that goo into something that can power up the vision suit it's so a matter of fact just like that's the way it is you're like oh is it then well all right it's magic and yeah next to that scene is the legendary discussion about how you've taken a whole city town hostage and she's like you guys have guns though not a conversation it definitively makes Wanda a villain and they don't commit to it like you could have committed to that and made it work you could have like had heard it explore like how she's going down a dark path and like tries to find redemption but they just yeah this is someone on the outside directly confronting her telling her what she's doing and what's the what the consequences of that are and she's just like you've got guns which means you're bad and also remember Wanda literally threw her out threw her out through the whole village through the barrier to the other side and she's going oh my god if I was my sister my sister would have done exactly the same thing you go girl you just go you're so powerful well lucky can't women just be powerful lucky for Monica man of steel she was shot through several buildings and she was fine she was regular human at that point was she not well you can argue that Wanda broke them and simply moved her through them you know like in that they're broken by Wanda's power not by her but Monica's back you could argue that the interesting thing for me is like Wanda's incredibly lucky that the one person who can act on her behalf that was experiencing her horrible thing didn't come out horrified and annoyed at her instead she came out like you know what I sympathize because I lost my mother it's like you are not the only person who has lost a loved one you psychopath that doesn't give you an excuse to do whatever the fuck you want about Wanda drew her in remember she allowed her to come in because she knew she could help with the baby delivering the baby she knew she was an ally but she couldn't read anybody else's mind she didn't know that director toxic male was out to get her Monica tells her that the reason she let her in was because she knew she could help her which is like excuse me what about all the other you're right what about all the other fucking people it was like well all of that would help so they could just stay in their rooms oh you knew I wasn't my ally make them suffer and yeah so Haywood has them removed when they cause too much trouble and that's when the show like was hit like me and rags were very much done at this point woo attacks the people who've taken them away and this is while being in front of a bunch of other people I was on I was on the discord and while they're discussing the next plan of action there are three people behind them about I'd say 10 meters away walking around just like wow if anyone had heard you guys doing all this bullshit probably would have been in a little bit of trouble um that's not to mention the fact that why you're being removed from the mission because they consider you compromised and like you're in its way sort of thing for other incompetence reasons but then you're like you know what I believe in Wanda so much that I'm going to attack this team and find a way to sabotage this mission you're like what I don't think they explain any of that at all you have a lot of confidence in that that torturing psycho magic user in there I mean do they ever even build up why she would have this level of faith in Wanda because her mum died and she understands why Wanda's doing all of this that's what their reasoning is yeah because her mum died and this is it's like so selfish and self indulgent with only two women that can understand loss because my mum died and your boyfriend died oh my god we've got 3000 people do you think their lives are just amazing do you think nothing's bad happens to them do you think you know they live forever anyone that has experienced loss can relate to this this is why the stuff in the dome was fun for me I enjoyed it it seemed to be leading somewhere and then as soon as they got this sword business it's just shit it makes no sense it's written by a buffoon it doesn't make any sense is it strange that the company who insisted that no one's ever really gone is using the loss of loved ones as the justification for villainy it's quite something and yeah I guess for this one I'll knock off my copyright cover and I'll try and play it as it happens but um yeah so why does Wu do this like Wu says in the previous scene you shouldn't be mean to people like Monica Heywood you should be chill okay that doesn't justify why you're willing to take up arms against sword's operation like I need to I need more than that and uh it's funny because he doesn't tell Monica about it Norcat Dennings he just decides you know what I'm gonna fucking punch these people it's like okay like that I feel like this could go wrong in many many ways but yeah they're lucky that all the noise they create and all the damage they do doesn't get them caught there's a whole base of people here um yeah just sort of worked out for them and um the show clearly doesn't know what it's doing because what would you say knowing what we know about these people right what is their next plan of action well they want to stop Heywood from potentially killing Wander I guess how are they gonna do that I guess they would go to the Avengers yeah I would say they need a third party it's pretty much all I can think of um so their first decision is to go into a tent with the I don't know the data stores and hack into the system it's like why it's like to get data what what data to get data I like data and what data do they get they get that um there's a secret mission happening on this base called cataract which is the evil vision and so like they discover this information because they wanted that information that they didn't know existed I call him sight lucky that they found it lucky that like there was information to be found you know that's what I mean like it's really badly done they aren't motivated to do what they do but it net gets them on to the next step of their plot um because again it's such an awesome action scene the three of them technically in some way work together and they defeat the evil sword I'm just thinking like what what is happening go back to the sitcom it was easy to understand yeah diversity is their strength you guys are going to hate this so I out of curiosity I went to IMDb and looked up could you come close to dmike I'm really struggling to hear you oh hold on I'll turn it up a little bit is that better yeah okay so yeah I pulled up one division to see the ratings so that the show overall has an 8.2 um and the really depressing part is that the first episode has a 7.5 the second episode has a 7.8 the third episode has an 8.2 and from then on out every single episode is 8.5 or above the show has a better reception when it begins to crumble than actually like when it's good it wasn't in color therefore I think it is yeah I think it's just that the first three episodes were really like unique and different and then it became not that that's like wow it's real bad isn't it that's the screen shot I meant to send that's the real this is just after they beat up all those guys okay like lock them instead of like a shipping container and somehow no one misses no one does I think it's like you'd expect confirmation surely he'd be like hey radio in once you've moved them off site hello guys oh no something's gone wrong yeah they do anything else just security and standing around because in a place like this you'd imagine most people would be checking in and there'd be constant like people doing tasks so if people just went missing it'd be like where did this guy go I had him doing this do they not have like military advisors just making sure that when the military is in these shows and films that it's pretty accurate to how it would be like surely that's not a hard thing to get right you wouldn't need to check up your story too much this is the same company that instead of just shooting a gun with blanks in it they had a guy pretend to shoot a gun so that they could CGI the slide moving back in a bullet casing coming out that's very true yeah no they do not they do not care at all now it's funny that you say that because I they have uploaded a behind the scenes like thing for the show I just pulled it up and like he's not even in the makeup in a lot of this stuff like it's just him blue with a bunch of dots on a space and then they do like all of the I thought that I thought he was in makeup so did I I think it's been half and half since seemingly yeah like real so much that isn't real I was going to say hey woods timeline I think carries on to when he discovers the they're up to no good but if you remember it's episode it's the last episode again because it's asked to he sort of sees who come in he's been captured and he's like I agent who you know but I'm always confused by I was like where was who before then wasn't he like with Monica going in through the barrier how did he get caught what happened to all those other people wouldn't he have just left and who threatens to get Quantico involved and Heywood is like whoa like you're bluffing you wouldn't do that is like wait why didn't he do that why didn't he call Quantico start with that the third party like they mentioned it's like that's the you go you wouldn't be independent because you got the show has access to him bringing in a third party it then captures him and says he didn't do it only to give him a phone that he somehow manages to sneak off a table that either belongs to him or he guessed the password of it wasn't password protected so if I'm like if that's just a random phone it's like that's super lucky that he didn't need a base or a thumbprint to get to that then how would army base like sword people's phones not be password protected for fuck's sake like what assistant couldn't come at least the Mandalorian face scanner required a face of course he has a paperclip to be able to break out as well it's some of the most like juvenile writing where you're just like he escaped because he escaped shut up and you're like okay I don't know why you didn't use what you had which was he sees her go back into the barrier and then he says you guys you know I'm gonna need you to try and stop sword doing this horrible operation because that's motivation now and then he calls Quantico they all arrive and he tries to stop Hayward instead they have him captured break out and call Quantico to stop Hayward why why why did you do all of that and I think it's because of the scene where Hayward gets to explain is his big plan and that's kind of where I was going with this so Hayward's big plan is I'm gonna cover all of this up the the show will prove that there is another vision I am going to kill that vision and then replace him with my one and argue that that was the same vision the whole time that Wanda resurrected and that I stopped here and saved this town and then we was like you'll never get away with this this security footage there's the blah blah blah and he's like oh people won't believe any of it they'll believe I'm a hero like I'm lost at this point I am so confused right now what I'm absolutely lost it's like they just dropped a villain plot he's saying villain things but like there's just no reason for him to say any of it and none of it makes any sense I'd be curious if you just took some random people who watched the show and said so Hayward you ought to tell him what his name was so Hayward why is he the villain and just see if they could give an answer what's power what's covering up exactly when he refers to that he's like I'm gonna cover it all up exactly what's that gonna be cover up having reassembled vision and used him as a weapon apparently has to cover that up how the hell did he keep that a secret all of these people know about this it was done over a lot of time it was done in his building how do you cover all this this is not something they never answered by the way his whole team sword are they all complicit are they all going to jail too yeah all the people who are like what we call witnesses would they like give a shit is he gonna pay him off so they work for Lex Luthor all the men are they're all, yeah well, funnily enough his second command seems to be the girl we recognize from she was in Hill House she barely says anything ever she's in the car with him when he gets out to shoot the children he doesn't really react or say anything but she's on board with the plan she's the one I think who announces that they've lost control over overcome vision and it's just like why he's overloaded okay they didn't have any like failed vision that they made like they didn't have anything to control it or anything to like pull the plug if something went wrong it just goes wrong it's like wow great job so why would you curse us with this the one thing I would say is that if he was considered overloaded and hard to control once visioner locked his memories that would be something I still question the mechanics of it but they lose control over him right at the beginning when he starts battling vision they say he's overloaded he's overloaded from doing the very thing you designed him for if he's overloaded in the scene where he's talking to vision then they would intervene they would find a way to control him to keep fighting rather than having a conversation that is a whole bunch of problems he says explicitly his orders are to destroy the vision and also to neutralize wander now Haywood has already tried to kill wander so it's safe to assume that he wants, yeah we'll get to this in one second I'm almost done his goal should be to kill wander so why is it that come vision doesn't just immediately kill her that would kill vision too she's the reason he exists so it makes no sense why is it hard for him to crush her head he's like yeah vibranium that sound of just cracking like she's fine after that yeah and he's got this weird vindictive streak for like one line where he's just like and they said you were strong and then he's just a robot for the rest of it and he's just like yeah to sort of quickly address this it seems the agri-jothal episode 1 and 2 pretty weak but I guess I'm assuming he's saying the episodes get better as they go along is probably what he felt episode 9 is 7 out of 10 I've never seen this I haven't seen people saying that the latter episodes were better this is amazing most people I thought I heard like the first 3 episodes and like then said the sword stuff was weak I don't understand anybody who enjoys episode 9 I know it's really controversial and harsh to say I don't get it, I don't know how you understood what happened it's easily the worst episode of the lot when you don't think it's very easy by an absolute mile it undoes the entire series how could you enjoy on any other level that you absolutely didn't take in what happened reality is I think that a lot of it is vapid because when I watched the episode when it first came out all I saw on twitter was oh look skull at which look the costume all the headpiece oh look red like that's kind of yes that's all it it really is I mean if you look back to even you know sorry the Luke Skywalker return you know I mean Luke using his lightsaber under a hood with angry Joe with angry Joe I'd just be like can you recount to me what happened in the final episode of WandaVision just tell me I'd be really curious what he thought happened I mean the episodes because he gives this if you go to the next picture he gives the series 9 out of 10 so the episodes which we don't have we haven't got the pictures for are they all 10s out of 10 because he's gone 5 6 and a 7 in the whole series 9 out of 10 I don't understand I mean the season it's greater than the sum of its parts even though they're all 5s and 7s it averages out to a 9 how it's kind of ironic that angry Joe has become the IGN that he hates I know it's become the very thing you swore to destroy this is a 5 out of 10 this is a 6 out of 10 the series is a 9 out of 10 did he add them all up with bad math math is racist anyway did he fail basic high school math no elementary school sorry the 9 out of 10 represents how he felt about the season as a whole it's not representative of the collection of other numbers idiots you can't say he didn't graduate high school he's a good GED I'm surprised by this because I would have thought he would have thought the last episode was shit he likes a lot of the DCEU stuff right he looks a lot of stuff he's hardcore stand man of steel he's in town to his own opinion that's nothing wrong with that 5 out of 10, 6 out of 10, 7 out of 10 fine I'm struggling to see where the 9 comes from that's interesting he thought the predator was good what's the standard here what what do you think was good he thought the predator was good the autism hunters the spinal fluid extractors really I thought we were the autism hunters watching the big CGI predator rip the head off the actual in costume one yay fun the re-do bulletproof predators walking through the jungle beating people to death at its fists that's what predator is I've got a story related to the predator because I casually dropped that the predators thought that autism was the next step in human evolution while watching a show with my brothers and they were not aware of this at that point and I thought they were and they looked at me like I had shit inside them and I then explained the entire plot to them right and they were still not believing me they had to actually go to Wikipedia to confirm it and they were still like what the fuck my friends told me this was really good and I'm just like I'm sorry your friends might be retarded your friends might be the next step in human evolution yeah yeah uh it was absolutely shocking watching the predator oh well and yeah point being Joe's got weird takes on movies and TV he it would be interesting to talk to him about what it is about one division that he thought was 9 out of 10 so he gave he gave 4, 5 and 6 a 9, 7 and oh hi Zep you're gonna have to like I'm sorry man grammar's important I don't know what you're trying I don't know what thoughts you're trying to convey to me he can get me right in just a second alright I don't remember I think it was just talking about it was insane plan yeah apparently when Wanda cancelled the show there's no copies of it anyway they didn't store it on like a cloud or in any kind of other system it just got swallowed up by when she I guess expanded the border but as we know it was recording it she said that right well it recorded I guess only locally and all of it got taken away by her border but the thing is when the borders disabled it reverts things back to normal so they'll still have that evidence secondly there is quite a few witnesses so quite a few I might even say hundreds so I don't know what maybe thousands I don't know what he's episodes 4, 5 and 6 he gave a 9 out of 10 episode 7 he gave a 7 yeah he gave episode 4 5 and 6 all of those got a 9 out of 10 4 was awful yeah 4 was I like 4 no I hate 4 it's 4's the one when they bring in all of the outside stuff repeat everything we already knew and then start making sword look like absolute retards I thought I was 5 have you rewatched it as I mean like cause I liked it initially too and then for my review I sat down and binged the damn thing and yeah it all sucks now I liked it up to the revelation of what's episode 3 I like episodes 1, 2 and 3 and I still kind of like them I just hate how they contextualize now they could have been contextualized better I guess so with just to finish up in episode 7 he gave a 7 in episode 8 he gave a 9 there's one good scene in episode 8 okay well we can go over that we'll get there the way we've done this is essentially like everyone's timelines different characters sort of first which is fine with me so yeah hey that's his goal is to kill Wanda undo all the damage she's done and then tell everybody that the vision that you'll see from then on is the vision that she resurrected but he has control over that wouldn't be the events that's happened and everyone could prove that wrong and if it truly is illegal to have done what he did and he has to hide it then he's fucked and there's no way he's getting out of this he's really stupid because vision would know the truth everyone knows the truth yeah that's the thing and yeah so one of the things Darcy does when they've escaped is send an email to vision or something in the dome do you remember that he finds it on his computer what how what and everybody reads it why does everyone read that I don't understand and then vision can magically turn people off I was confused so talk about another thing there was another thing that destroys the show because there's so many of them when he does that to the first person it's I like enjoyed it and then I started to think like wait wouldn't he just do this to load to them save them his whole goal is to destroy the system itself and free these people but he only ever releases them temporarily and puts them back in because they start panicking and so it's like you might think to yourself as a writer how do I justify them panicking how do I get them to scream the guy at work he just starts shouting at vision over and over again instead of trying to be like how do I figure this out he just goes nuts and puts them back in the same thing happens for Agatha she just starts laughing uncontrollably until he puts it back in but I don't know if that was her own motive the only one who doesn't is Darcy she adjusts instantly and she's like that was annoying she's great, she's incredible also to the people who panic oh you're panicking, well torture time yeah I don't understand it from vision's point of view and there's a thing I wish I could say he was unscathed but I still think his character's got some issues in this season for some reason he recognizes these people are in pain as much as some people who are literally stuck trying to attach something to like a line and crying why don't you go unlock her like and then if she starts screaming like I god I'm good just like I mean try and doesn't doesn't a vision unlock Agnes in the car at the end of the section that's what I was saying totally like she was playing along we have to discount that one I even called it when we discussed it on our show I would really look like she was just there for whatever reasons she wanted to be there for but yeah you could tell that she wasn't particularly like shocked or surprised or yeah because you think because if she was locked away so does that mean that Wanda didn't ever have power over her I guess no I guess not well first of all yeah no she didn't until the end with the runes thing happening and the conversion but we have no idea why that's the case they never explain how she managed to get into that place without being affected by the spells yeah I think that's causing the confusion however that scene means that Agnes rode out there and waited for Vision to find her so that she could convince Vision to try and escape the dome why? all that did was make her expand the dome you might be like oh so she's trying to get her to cast more spells to sapper so she doesn't sapper in that scene she doesn't do anything maybe she didn't know that Wanda would expand the dome well I'm trying to argue in favor of that that's what she wanted her to do because I can't think of anything else what the hell was she trying to do with that would you have said anything to should she have just been more explicit to Vision no well I don't know what do you think she was trying to do in that scene I guess I'm not exactly certain I don't know what she was trying to do I'm a bit confused were they trying to insinuate in the story and failed completely that Agatha was trying to like get to Vision slowly maybe start the question the world around him but I don't know what's the point what's the point of it though if her whole goal is to make Scarlet Witch cast spells so she can sap them what the fuck is she doing wasting all her time she's spending all this time fucking around why aren't you creating enemies for Wanda to fight and then sapping her while she does it that seems like the most obvious thing to do but it's to throw us off you see and then to go Wanda was sorry Agatha was behind her the whole time and you're like I don't understand what that means don't believe you yeah she was just trying to figure out how she pulled off the magic and then she I mean the ultimate answer was because she could she was just powerful she was the Scarlet Witch and so something that bothered me greatly was when he unlocked Cat Dennings sorry Mulder it's just one thing before you do that scene was after correct me if I'm wrong but that scene was after when Agatha said oh should we retake that which to me was the whole giveaway that she was in everything she was in on it that she knew what was going on nobody else knew what she was going on but she's saying hey should we retake that clip from the show so after that it was to me it was absolutely obvious that Agatha was you know either a an antagonist or was one antagonist on what could be a couple she should know better than to say that by the way and with people knowing that Agatha Harkness is attached to Scarlet Witch then they're like oh this has to be her then because she's called Agatha she's clearly in on the TV show this has got to be Agatha Harkness so then you know when she's out in the sticks with the car and it doesn't look like she's phased by by Vision being there she's kind of like a theatric you know doing her theatrics this woman is clearly clearly not affected by Scarlet Witch well I'm surprised that that didn't give her a way to Scarlet Witch to the point where she would inspect it and re reintegrate her be like oh you're out of sync clearly because you shouldn't be able to say that and at the same time why would Agatha do that when nobody else in the town does that yeah like what was she what was her hope like when she was at the fence right and she was with the neighbor who was cutting into the fence she did it to him to make him do that and so you're just like what are all these things for you just trying to annoy Wanda is that it no it's pure mystery box they were just trying to set up a mystery for mystery sake that had no intention of paying off whatsoever it's just to make it look like it's far more complex than it really is this is like amateur shit that makes it so hard to like know what the hell is happening in this show and what is and isn't actually supposed to be something that matters it's um when we were on that Friday night time so we were on we were all just talking about it really depends on where they go really depends on what they're tired of saying that shit right we're just waiting for the thing to be better because right now it's not enough on its own that they just it was lost I mean it was yeah it's lost and yeah so uh vision decides to take cat dannings out and then he and specifically because he saw her on the outside he saw all of those people on the outside all the clown people are all people from the outside why not undo them why not talk to them all be like all of you are from out there you've just got placed in I can make a team I can put you all together we can figure this out and like if Wanda fucks you all over I'll try and get you out all over again but no he gets her out and then a guy who is under Wanda's control is like you gotta go on the stage and he's like oh no I don't want us to go on the stage she's like no you have to go on the stage and then they punch him what is happening this guy is under a spell just knock him out yeah why are you such an asshole everybody's fucking stupid and then possibly one of the most frustrating parts personally for me and I think rags is gonna agree with this I'm not sure vision gets told is history from the MCU and how he died and it's a comedy scene oh yeah I was so fucking pissed off during this show Mauler you're like quite it's the grave for most of that episode I told Fringy this but yeah I was really done but uh yeah the scene where we get vision who has been resurrected in some kind of form some weird quasi existence he is being told he is learning about his own death and the circumstances surrounding his death ideally with how Wanda was involved in that and what she was willing to do and what he was willing to do um and he is told that the framing that they've done this is him and Darcy of all people who just matter of faculty just sort of casually sort of just says you died lol while they're in an ice cream truck and then the scene's just like over and they're waiting at an intersection and it is the it is one of the biggest wastes of a potential payoff that I've ever seen it was it was abhorrent in how it was executed it was an insult to the character and all the stuff that happened at the end of infinity war and I was just I was so upset at that Blame imagine if that scene was done between Wanda and Vision like Wanda was the one who had to tell him and like had to break from the lies like there's so many more opportunities there's so many different characters and different mechanisms that you could use Wanda wouldn't want to tell him and Vision's like no fucking tell me what happened I have to know what happened tell me damn it and then she's like crying she's like trying to tell him everything that happened instead it's lol Darcy in an ice cream truck and they have Marvel way now that reminds me of the Ragnarok scene when Odin you know passes and they it's emotional for like a nanosecond and then it flips on a dime when that scene should have played out so much longer Odin was handled well in Ragnarok they get him out of the way which is unfortunate but yeah in this like what's such a missed opportunity is you have him figuring out piece by piece that he may very well be dead and then he asks it am I dead did I die and you've got not only the fact that she wants to keep that away from him but she is trying to convince herself that he's not dead anyway and so you have like perfect drama right there you have him trying to tell her to admit that he's dead in a context that is separate from the subtext which is that she can't get over the grief of his death like it's all there for you you've got a scene and they have Darcy you died yeah the purple guy killed you so funny so much it's excruciating to watch I thought it was bad but now you've explained it it was much worse everything is so much better like it's it's so why did you choose to do it this way of all the ways that you could have cashed that check that was how you did it is like you could have anything in the store you want for free and you're like I'll have that gum yeah right yeah don't you want that like Mercedes Benz over there or that big screen TV nah just that gum just I just I want to experience what it's like to chew 5 gum yeah and then it creates more problems for that itself isn't a problem for vision as a character that's what was done to him in terms of a conversation he had no control over so whatever I guess it's just really unfortunate that he did it that way he kind of drops it the problem comes in in one he doesn't question much more than that he concludes that they have to get back to Wonder and that she's trying to prevent them from getting there with trucks and stuff it's embarrassing to watch because he can fly it's just like you can go around there's so like it's like kids and then that's like oh no now another person's come to block the road it's like guys just drive ahead and cut yeah you can fly just drive around this is important vision you have things to do right now you don't have time fuck around you can travel real fast by the way like real fast yeah he can try he can fly and mass doesn't slow him down you have no excuse you gave him these powers and so I would say it's critical of his character because the part that I love is the main thing he gets out when he passes through the border is you have to save these people which is really in line for vision he's all about that heroism but then that sort of gets dropped in the next episode because he's just on a comedy episode that's like why he's just doing comedic and silly things and it's only at the end where he goes oh yeah my motivation this was what was confusing for me was how much how much he was retaining because he seemed to be coming out of it when he went through the barrier and was trying to tell him to get away be safe and then going back in it's as if he forgot everything well going to as if he had his mind wiped again I just didn't understand what he was retaining and not retaining he remembers what he has to remember for this plotline to work which is I remember you person I saw you're like oh you remember that what do you remember vision it's so frustrated and so yeah I would say that they have to damage vision as a character in order to play out the storyline that they want to a degree no in near wonder and it's unfortunate because I quite like vision and I would actually say I think I'm slightly more invested in as a result of this TV show but almost in a meta way I'm like leave him alone are you ruining things what are you going to do with him you brought him back but for what reason what are your plans for him dare I ask what are you going to do please don't destroy him and weirdly to justify so like what we want to see now is the big blowout between wonder and vision like he knows the truth he's seen the outside he's talking to someone who's given away all the information about what happened and he's trying to get back to it meanwhile you'd be like well wait a minute what's she doing and you find out that she's doing an episode where she's like I don't want to talk to vision haha it's funny I don't get it like what the fuck's happening you would either mind wipe him you can rewind you can do all these kinds of things to maintain your illusion but instead you're just like I just don't want to speak to him like what wonder I don't understand these act like is she aware that her world is falling apart it's like well the episode has her like smirking or being confused at how parts of her house are converting into different eras randomly like okay it's not a solution and honestly if I was speaking to the writers they'd be like you don't understand it's her grief she's trying to avoid addressing anything anymore she's trying to just blah blah blah it's just like well no if she was doing that she would be repairing all of the fucking illusions because she can just do it she can just almost literally snap her fingers and have that happen and yeah and then she gives the kids over to Agatha and like I remember just being I don't even know what was happening anymore I was like are the kids real or not they've been converting like every however long for ages I don't know if they like spies like the brother they're going over them to Agatha means anything at all and her concern for them going missing again I don't know why she doesn't rewind or disassemble them from wherever they are and reassemble them in front of her like why wouldn't that be something she could do this is part of the whole like I just can't understand anything that's happening which and yeah so like we that big blowout that I want I want to see vision call her out I wanted to admit what she's done instead of avoiding the drama and eating cereal all episode or some shit and do you remember he finally arrives at the same time the stupid vision arrives and Agatha's having a big boss battle that's when he finally gets back to her luckily an action sequence is going on so that they can fight and then reconcile without reconciling basically yeah I don't know I don't know how it took him so long and I don't know he gets fucked again character wise if you remember his whole thing coming there is I need to stop her from conducting this illusion even at the cost of myself to save all these people he gets there he sees this big purple witch and this version of himself that's pale and he says let's fight for our home what yeah like what how does he not assume all of this is wonder why wouldn't he be like why have you created a weird purple witch person and a pale version of me what is this symbolic of your internal conflict or something what's going on here if Agnes can create a necklace that makes someone immune to mind control why didn't she make one for herself are they immune to mind control I thought that was what puts them under the spell of mind control yes is that what the necklace does it does that and it gives them superpowers oh man so you can just give people superpowers but make a necklace I brought this up earlier it's one of the things that destroys the MCU you can give someone a necklace and they'll have super speed and super strength I guess I was just inundated I really feel like that is more damage than has ever been done to this world it's insane I think this might be a little bit worse than that but both of those you're destroying super speed and super strength to anybody who gets a fucking necklace from Agatha I don't know man yeah Demo did all that damage and he doesn't even have powers what were they thinking yeah I don't know they weren't Mahler as the episode is rolled on I've just bought a visual that's now gonna trigger me into saying yes so meanwhile Monika is like I gotta get back in there I gotta help Wanda but Monika you silly bitch you're gonna get converted mind control wise what would be the point you'll go and she's like that's fine it's fine if that happens but why are they now helping Monika again after she was well they're her friends they don't work for Hayward they're not loyal to Hayward they apparently work for sword and they're loyal to her mother that's how she gets all this off the books all for friends favors absolutely sure that's how companies and military organizations work all the time I mean hell they might soon but and it's all for nothing because she decides to just fucking walk in anyway okay and somehow she's like standing there right and remember you might be like again that whole reasoning of like but if you just walk in you'll get converted and she's like nah it's fine though chill no reasoning at all to do this she is told she should not enter the barrier again because her biology is being rewritten you should be terrified by that concept by the way yeah you could come out of some weird Fallout FEV experiment you could just like disintegrate like in the blob or something who knows what will happen this is on top of you already know your brain was reorganized to have a different history and memory and values like I'm sorry to me that kind of shit would change my perception of who I am yeah like yeah existential crisis but instead right she's a cat dannings brings this up to us like you shouldn't go in another time like look at your blood work already and then she goes I've seen cells metastasize and I've seen them go into remission basically I could get lucky well it's not even I don't think that's anything I almost want to punch the writer in the face like she's seen someone go through cancer come out of it what does that have to do with anything yeah what are you talking about this is like super magic cancer it's a mystical barrier that magically changes your cells and you're like I've seen people survive cancer what the she's always right when she makes these ridiculous assumptions yeah whenever she does something incredibly stupid and boneheaded the show rewards her for her stupidity this show confuses stupidity for incredible she was bravery yes it's incredible and uh yeah as she's going through the barrier I don't know if you guys caught it but they play a line from Captain Marvel saying when they were handing out daughters they gave you like the strongest one in reference to her mom reference to her she's a strong woman and she's gonna get a fucking bunch of powers because of it I guess yeah boy they do the thing of like playing memories from her life as she's going through the barrier and I have no clue what they try to say it's happening don't get it are they trying to imply that she willed herself into having superpowers by going through the barrier yeah um they have a reference yes from Agatha at one point that the mind control thing works on the feeble minded and I don't know if they're implying that the mind control waned on Monica because she's so strong minded and eventually she was immune because she's stronger than everyone else in Westview so strong she's just the best man yeah Captain Marvel was right when she was like hey kids you're really awesome like yeah and that inspired her you see because they have to tell us the Captain Marvel's inspiring best ever because she isn't at all Captain Marvel is utterly at showing it Captain Marvel is the hero that had all of the power in the world and then stood up and you're like Rocket Raccoon is inspiring don't give me that Captain Marvel shit of course he is he's a little rocket man he's more inspiring than mother Captain Marvel is way more inspiring it was it was just a few years ago yeah Rocket had more a deeper storyline more empathy for that little raccoon that's pretty cool well Drax learned what metaphors were to give you a yeah yeah to give you a stark comparison I just had a stark comparison but I'm referencing Captain Marvel a comparison for this sort of element would be in the training camping Captain America one where they throw the grenade and he goes grenade and then he just jumps on to it to save everybody you see something like that happen you're like my god what a legend what an amazing person you're such a good person yeah you were actually willing to put yourself in harm's way to save other people and it was there's something you do because you're that good oh it's a great really like that scene a lot yeah your Captain America lots of things we say that's the rule show don't tell it's a beautiful thing and yeah so Captain Marvel's pathetic and she's the reason why Monica had the balls to go through the barrier and gain powers which is something she had no idea what would happen she even thought she might just die and she did it anyway because one does not a villain guys she's upset like it's absolutely non-functional nothing about this show is functioning anymore and we haven't even gotten to like the bulk of the last episode we're sort of just covering and even though she's kidnapped thousands of people she could have kidnapped more absolutely insane fucking crazy there are some great on reflection there are some brilliant cringe lines in this that can be used really just some of the worst dialogue in certain pieces nothing acts the way it should and it's so confusing but she catches up to Wanda's house and she's just like yo Wanda I understand and Wanda tries to throw her away but she uses I say this in quotation uses her powers to stop Wanda from doing that what? she's covered in blue goo and she's sort of just like she's like no you can't pick me up with your telekinesis because I went through the barrier oh yeah you just kind of like I guess you're cool I wouldn't have killed Monica if she wasn't like super powered uh maybe does she like slam it down or drop it down I think she slams her down let's see the clip again but she slams her down yeah yeah I think you could say that and she's shocked that she survived or uses powers Wanda's been ruined unfortunately because she's really one of the few people debating that I was invested in but oh well I think we were saying this before but I don't even know what character is going to show up in Doctor Strange 2 when she does is that Wanda or is that the Scarlet Witch whatever that means at this point what do you mean oh fuck I don't care yeah she's appealing to Wanda significantly about this horrible circumstance and Wanda even says maybe I'm the villain then Agnes just goes go away Wanda just leaves her to I guess continue to exist in her little fantasy world it's a terrible terrible moment of just what are you doing there's a whole conversation to be had and then she's sort of just like hey stop it and then Monika like slowly tries to keep up with them it's the meme of pointing at the cat like that's what it is she's like you're a I don't like you but Monika just sort of gives up until she decides maybe I should go after them and then Quicksilver gets her or foe Quicksilver but they do the cat meme they do the woman shouting at the cat meme that's just happened wait and that's not honest to God that's on purpose that is totally on purpose they totally set that up to look like the uh the woman shouting at the cat meme I can believe they did that on purpose and not actually anything important on purpose like I could tell that was probably their priority I do like the way that Monika just fuck all afterwards well she takes ages to catch up to them I don't know why um Quicksilver kidnaps her and uh yeah I guess because like there's not much more now before we can uh talk quickly about episode 8 Quicksilver Quicksilver just like when she takes him out he just just decides not to be using his powers anymore I didn't understand that man he was using it more as that entire time and he just loses it's like what the hell let me explain they need to delay her for x amount of time that is why yeah and the timer is up uh how does she escape Quicksilver just doesn't use his powers it makes sense like oh all right well I guess that wraps that up in a neat little boat she destroys the amulet that's how she does it he does it by like tackling him and taking him down because he just doesn't use his powers he's very strong the fact is like he pokes her she flies across the room I think some people believe that that's momentum but it only works with cartoons you can't have that work that way in real life that's just a fuck up you can't have momentum he stops so besides though he has to have some level of super strength density or constitution to be able to survive going super fast like you can't just do that otherwise you just uh friction would just burn you up he'd be dead yeah friction and the internal organs so she flips him she gets on top of him and he's like oh no what was me and then she does her eye thing and then she spots the necklace then rips it and he doesn't do anything throughout that whole sequence if he did she wouldn't be able to be jelly in the end it's consequentially it still has an effect but um yeah uh lucky her power allows her to see cast spells I guess is what that is unfortunate I was that great aren't they unfortunately she didn't enchant his shoe if you wouldn't be able to see it unfortunately the mind control just doesn't imagine for a moment that the spell was just you can see purple stuff on his head like a you know like a plasmary looking thing like what is she gonna do then? rip it off it's like it's not even really attached it's just it's around him much like the mind control works for everyone else but no this guy he had a necklace and it's like the only reason I can think of that he had a necklace unlike everyone else is because he also needed to have super speed which again what the fuck if he'd been around in that final fight then he would have been able to defeat most of them all of them yeah um probably even the kids because he's gonna be better at it than they are I guess I don't know how did they get powers did she give them to him without a necklace because she's wandered she can do anything she wants that's a very good question it's so weird how they just randomly then have powers like oh awesome it's so that they can fight at the end it's so that you can have that cool little shot where like the camera like zooms in and it's like the Incredibles where they're like yeah it's like but it's socks they should not have fought man the kids it doesn't make any sense it was a deleted scene with Monica where she fights Agatha's bunny it got cut is that real yeah it turns into a giant monster bunny giant monster bunny I mean at least that would have been something ridiculous I could have seen that might have been entertaining might have lost yeah yeah I might have laughed at it at how stupid that is that bunny might actually come out to be like the most unscathed character funny at the best arc bunny will be the king of the MCU by the end of this so bunny will return in Avengers in game it didn't take too long but episode 8 often cited as like a good one I'm not a fan except for maybe one scene the penultimate episode where you get a lot of history for Wanda this could be where our panel finally have more of a disagreement because everything's been so terrible at this point I am aside from for some reason her explaining everything to Wanda which was really dumb like she just shouldn't have told her anything to get what she wants which is to sap her powers and understand her which is to look in her memories instead she explains to what magic is after then saying don't you know what magic is because you're a witch like it's all really really poorly done but it's to get us information to understand a few more mechanics but then I see what they're trying to do to set things up yeah scene's in isolation to an extent my trouble is just the mechanism for which they do it it's just like her leading Wanda through I haven't even gone to the actual memories yet I was just talking about the setup as well as she's definitely evil you see because she feeds a bug to her rabbit that was weird it's like the bug went up her nose didn't it I don't care that much about the bug I was just like okay so this is again going on the list of it transforms into a bird oh yeah she turns into a bit and then feeds the un-transformed thing she feeds it to the rabbit whatever then the rabbits the rabbits like insane the rabbits crazy watch out for that rabbit man yeah that rabbit will fuck up a bird the rabbit will return in avengers so from Holy Grail memory one and I honestly think that this is kind of how a lot of book readers feel when they see things adapted it's kind of a similar feeling I was always a big fan of the origin story being told to us as it recanted as a motivation in Age of Ultron because I think it's a really good one seeing all of it play out explicitly covering all of the possible things you could ever be confused by it started coming across as really lame first and foremost hey dad tries to sell sitcoms and we watch them as a family and they play episode portions and then they just fill the screen with Wanda's face be really happy with her family while watching sitcoms do you get it I need an explanation as to why someone likes sitcoms yeah I don't need to know why she likes her family or considers family a comforting thought and sitcoms a world she decided to go into instead they're like you see bewitched Malcolm in the middle Dick Van Dyke show if father has all these they watch them to learn English better also she loves it and that is why she did what she did in this season I'm like you're explaining stuff you didn't need to explain and you're not explaining anything that needs to be explained you don't have to tell me why a fat kid likes a chocolate bar I get it I get it she grew up in Sokovia or wherever else just a horrible place under war and the idea that she watched sitcoms to get away from it all I didn't need you to show me that I get it then well yeah so then it plays out the scene that we already knew about but now we see it which is the Stark used bomb crashes in their parents presumably were killed by the initial explosion or whatever even though they got that bit wrong I can't remember what the original story was doesn't wonder say when she's explaining it there's a whole world of war and our parents go in yeah doesn't she say there was one word on it Stark and this one has actually Stark Industries I mean even the whole story there's kind of like the thing is they said that there's a giant hole on the floor wasn't there just a bunch of rubble I don't remember there being a hole in the floor and that the parents fell in but the big fundamental thing is what an interesting story it is that you were just the family that the bomb didn't go off in just by pure chance by pure luck you're the ones who didn't get blown up now what we know is that wonder cast a probability hex a child to stop the bomb from going off I think we all could have guessed that all the clues were there like I mean fundamentally I think that's like just so much worse as an idea but also how does she even know she just did it unwittingly which by the way we're entering to serious problems for the MCU because there's a couple of bits and bobs of language that I think they're gonna do the thing we hate which is you can do all of this and you will do all of this because you're the scarlet witch which is like what do you mean the scarlet witch seems to be prescriptive and not descriptive which is fucking unfortunate because they justify all kinds of bullshit which is the chosen one thing essentially you're the Deus Ex Machina you're the chosen witch this is why it's so much more interesting a whole bunch of people would have been affected by Stark weaponry the idea that one of them was a dud is perfectly likely and the family that were affected by it they stared at the bomb for two days before what I thought the story was they realized that it's like their movements or their interaction with it won't affect it or someone came in to help them but they were staring at the word Stark and waiting for it to kill them for two days that's really powerful as a reason to hate Tony Stark or the Stark family then you combo that up with what I think is a missed opportunity you could have it before this happened that she kind of thought that like America was awesome in terms of seeing all of their media and how happy and wholesome all of it is with great lessons then she finds out that Stark is like the biggest billionaire in America and that this is what destroyed everything and so the love of sitcoms gets like pitted against her and is part of like an ongoing grief cycle of trying to rationalize what she believes about the world outside of the home that she had you know you have all of these different possibilities all these different storylines and instead they just tell us what we already knew but then say it was a spell that did it that's way more satisfying sure I'm glad they re-contextualized her backstory to be about magic spells so it's as good as the guy having his eyes scratched out by a cat well yeah that's another great turn yeah we talked briefly about the whole bono quick silver thing apparently was I remember seeing the article was that inspired by Iron Man 3 did you say meme repository was that what he said yeah he said that his favorite part of Iron Man 3 was the mandarin twist and that was heavily influential with that bono twist oh but I wouldn't call that a twist no in a certain sense just watching me in misery like ha ha ha isn't that funny you weren't expecting that got you my eyes were rolling to the back of my fucking head bono I think I said this on free stream but when I first saw that scene I was like I hadn't reacted yet because I was just like wait are we is that you just said that he's a guy in this town he was given a spell to pretend to be a brother his name is Ralph Bono are we doing this are we saying that it was all just lolly's name is bono bono like and Agatha Harkness can cast a spell that would give quick silver powers like can you do that with all the superheroes and I mean why would you need Juan does magic at that point I mean you can do whatever you want oh this screenshot that drags a cent there are now inconsistencies Pietro says we were 10 years old having dinner the four of us when the first shell hits two floors below it makes a hole in the floor it's big our parents go in and the whole building starts coming apart I grab her roll her under the bed and the second shell hits but it doesn't go off sits there in the rubble three feet from our faces and on the side is painted one word which you mentioned before as stark um yeah they weren't having dinner they're watching Malcolm the middle or something but no Dick Van like that's right we wait two days for Tony Stark to kill us I remember finding that so effective just like yeah great it's great and now it's fucked it's been this is one of a new content can retroactively screw up all the absolutely and this is so unnecessary they didn't need to explain any of this just like more said there was so many other things we needed explanation of this was not one of them and you know what it's kind of a cool line where he says I said why you you too the only one that survived the experiments now I don't he's referring to willpower a good old fashioned they have such a hatred for Stark um that they managed to push through the experiments but yeah but but now it's like well she survived because she's the scarlet witch you know like stop saying that please stop saying that and then I don't get your survived because yeah um because because because I don't think we've talked about it in a piecto whose um was magical too like that's another I think they yeah I think they want to do maybe they just came up short right they like they wanted to introduce the mutants and they're like no no no we can't do it on Disney plus we need to do it a movie or something because they just toyed with the idea they could have set it up they could have it could have been one of those things where not even one to knows what's happening or or we don't get an explanation quite yet but it's one of those little oh so so okay yeah Disney needs to describe everything to you anytime you get close to being emotional they drop back last minute because they don't want you feeling any sad feelings because of the audience enhanced data-driven analysis how um how garbage by the way the the tv happens to fall in view of the bomb so it's just gonna play sitcoms for the two days that they're just like okay all right mm-hmm it wouldn't because the dvd would run out yeah yeah it would get to the end of the episode and stop yeah yeah it'd be the menu at the very least oh yes and I was pointing out earlier you have to listen to the menu music for two oh god i FBI warning and as pointed out earlier they can't even count to two apparently because um they put so Pietro's line was like there was just one word painted on the side of it start and in when you actually see the scene it's stark industry so that's two words so they fucked it up like in a very small way again so they can't even get like the very small details right to me it always came across as whenever they keep track of old shit they just go from memory like I'm pretty sure it was something like they were in a house and a bomb hit I think we'll just go from there it's like why don't you really take too much just to go pull out a copy of major bolt drum and find out look at the script please somebody just pull out a blue ray of age of ultrum let's just take us two seconds to get to it and nah nah so yeah um I think it's like the worst of both worlds not only did they show me shit that I didn't need to see they've also changed it like so it's just like thanks for that you've made it worse and I didn't need to see it in the first place then you get the next scene which is the biden stowed detaches itself from the staff to walk right up to her and give her a vision of the scarlet witch okay that was really was that in her head was that what the it was implying or was was that real did it actually come out and like attach itself to her like what was that all about no idea and it implies like the stones costume like what the the stones have a conscience and they want to like do things so they would I don't think um I don't understand it's such a weird moment I didn't know what the hell I was watching when I saw that I was like dude what is going on why is the stone like a also really shitty dialogue they have a walk in and he's like please approach the stone also he says like forward or something like that and then the guy next to him goes with respect to know not one subject has survived you why would you tell him that he knows that why would you say that where you don't it's like they told us that why are you gonna hold me back bro they told they said it because they want us to understand this is special it's like I already do that fuck I hope what is okay and yeah for some reason it fucks with time to the point where the camera didn't record any of the shenanigans it just cuts from her standing to her on the floor and they're like how weird I don't know I don't know why I did that but the universe doesn't want them to see it I guess because if we see it happen it's not a mystery box yeah and while she's waiting in her cell they fucking play sit cobs it's open and there's nothing left in it sit cobs are following her a whole life you see it's not critical that you're just piling it on and all these flashbacks and it never turned up in any of her scenes previously she never expressed an interest in TV or sitcoms in any way or referenced them no no and you might be like well what do you want then I just be like I think you can do it without all this gay shit just have it that she's interested in sitcoms like why do you have to force it so hard I've been watching this episode and I'm not gonna lie this is a bunch of gay shit it's frustrating because I'm like ah she's someone who would have watched a lot of sitcoms and she probably had access to older shit because she was in a poorer country I get it that's fine and then you show me all this and I'm like oh my god everywhere she goes they fucking play stupid sitcoms in a room like really it's it's the kind of thing that you would literally be seeing in batwoman yeah yeah every step along the way of like the constant flashbacks over and over and over and over and over again so finally get to a scene that I like she had vision discuss like they have what is one of their opening conversations and it's a really good one to build their relationship from he doesn't really have much of a reason to talk to him and he doesn't really have much of a reason to talk to her unless what they make clear which is that he's curious to look after her because she's clearly in pain because her brother died at the end of age of Ultron and she's like why are you talking to me because talking about is not gonna help I want him back and then he tries to explain the desire to want him back the grief you're experiencing I understand it's and it's it's love persevering after a relatively lengthy explanation from his point of view which is that a person who lacks anyone he cares about because he was born yesterday as he says in age of Ultron he's just trying to understand emotions and I was like you know what I wonder if anyone else wrote this scene because it's so much better than everything in the season I know what you mean it's just like more of this please more of this relationship and how it unfolded and how you know they they came these two damaged or you know one naive one really damaged individual how do they come together you know it's and it's before Avengers Age of Ultron so like it's we've seen their relationship come more to fruition in Civil War and Infinity War so it's like it's laying the groundwork of like what came before and it's it's really solid stuff and then they ruin it well not not entirely but I fucking hated it when they both like smile each other and the scene is very clear of what it's saying and then Agatha goes so your mom and dad died your brother died and then vision died and so no one could stop you when you fell to the darkness thank you thank you Agnes thank you for being here it honestly felt like the show was like maybe they didn't get it maybe they didn't get that Wanda cared about vision and he helped her deal with her grief and when he was gone she had nobody maybe they didn't get it I don't know they have a lot of faith in their audience streaming for the lowest common denominator Disney plus D plus do you know who's got some D pluses Cat Denning Cat Denning's Beverly and yeah the last flashback I guess is when she comes in sees the body is at peace the vision is gone goes to a house that presumably vision bought for them like a lot he sent because she got a letter with but he never told her or I don't know what the show was trying to say I thought they were in another country I don't know when he bought the lot and then wrote the letter to say let's live here forever I don't know when that happened but apparently it did this is our forever home wasn't it I don't know when did he do that it was a shitty lot maybe he got a good price well it was a really shitty lot I assumed was the plan for them to build a house there was not the idea maybe someone hey I've just been told that Mahler was wondering if anyone else wrote that scene apparently Paul Bettany had them rewrite that scene oh yeah there you go understands the character yeah somebody that actually understands what's going on damn that man has been in charge of his own character from now on absolutely fuck him because like honestly it's like the only scene that I feel this show is worth seeing for because even the sitcom stuff that I like it doesn't really go anywhere or do anything it's more so a charming thing you could check out that scene it's like a natural addition to Civil War you know yeah pop it into Civil War as like a prologue scene even I don't know I don't want to fuck with Civil War too much of course because I don't want to fuck up the timeline but like it's a scene that is it only helps the rest of the MCU that I've seen the timeline's fucked up it's really fucked up now but didn't Captain Marvel fuck it up I still haven't seen that film they all don't didn't that fuck the timeline up it fucks it fucks with stuff for sure I can't remember how much damage it does compared to Nick Fury the Avengers the entire it retroactively makes his eye thing bad originally we're told that the Avengers were created because of Thor coming to that town and leveling it in that fight but apparently no instead it was all of these shenanigans that happened in Captain Marvel actually it creates the issue of the they just don't even address the fact that these massive warships exploded in Earth's atmosphere and no one just seems to give a shit or know about it or care um why would you stuff like that yeah it screws up a lot of movies they got this the property deed from New Jersey from Wanda Maximoff and The Vision there you go it's just like when did he do this okay fine if he goes here and cries and then explodes and you know that's what women do they go home they cry and then they explode she shots out magic and transforms the town it would make so much more sense if this was a manipulation by Agatha the whole thing was a manipulation yeah you need serious rewrites but like uh making Agatha the architect is probably the best way to save Wanda from being incredibly villainous I would say yeah because she just comes out bad yeah you know what you can have Agnes either be the villain or just a parallel hero who's trying to like let her down easy maybe if he wanted to rewrite it or she is she's trying to inhibit Wanda's latent energy um and then maybe if you want to get rid of them both then maybe Wanda is somewhat victimized by her own power because of her emotions but this old sorceress can teach her how to harness her powers and train her so they go off to do that so they could bring him back whenever they need him for another movie or show or whatever but um yeah they did it really badly it's yeah they mixed up the hero and the villain and it's just a mess it's all just horrible it was it wasn't actually Agatha we wish it was Agatha all along we really did it's kind of Wanda Maxima for a long so she didn't kill Sparky when Agatha finds all this out she realizes she's the Scarlet Witch from this and thus continues the initial plan of suck suck the power that's all she wants to do so that whole episode really plot wise doesn't change a thing it's just to give us context that I honestly think we knew most of this except most of it now adding whole bunch of questions unfortunately like a lot of this stuff is better left unsaid like this stuff was in the subtext of the previous films or like recounted through dialogue and it's like you really don't need this to play out visually especially not in this context like you could do it through quick flashes or something but we really don't need this extended scene of them cowering of another bomb you know it's not it's better as a story I pictured all of it now I'm watching it all it's like sort of labor it's usually labor yeah especially when you have this incompetent creative team trying to fucking pull it off which wait are we pulling it off or sucking it off I'm really confused why not both which takes us to episode 8 by the way we've managed to cover portions of 8 already so it shouldn't be too painful to get through but it is easily I'm so used to portions of 8 9 is where we're at 9 is the disaster so it opens I guess with Agatha being like right I'm a making cast spells so I can suck you and you're like alrighty unfortunately at the same time evil vision is made his way in and his job is to kill them both and at the same time visions discovered the truth he doesn't really care because he's going to get into a big old boss battle I guess the there's so many things I don't even know where to begin with this shit Agatha's immortal right like she's been lost for ages or at least lost a long long time somewhat let's just assume is she also like super strong because she gets hit by a car no I have killed so that part confused me when I was watching it too I was like oh she's dead because she just kind of hit by a car and only her shoes are left I didn't know what they were telling me it was like nah she teleported out you're like but she was clearly hit by it all that was was just a cheap wicked wisp out visuals and quippy little yeah but wicked wisp died of that scene to referencing which is like another one of those weird things like oh yeah she's dead because if you drop a house on a witch she dies yeah walk around houses those are the two you can walk behind Wanda and shoot her in the head you can walk up behind Dr. Strange shoot him in the head same with human torch there's a bunch of heroes where they got these amazing powers but you can still blow him away with just a 9mm she should have been dead except Monica who's bullet yeah well she'll jelly them yeah it's supposed to be energy too it's supposed to be light I don't know why it becomes jelly at some point but yeah I hope people can understand I think it's a valid concern because look at this screenshot I think that's pretty funny you already see it for a split second or so yeah wow my god it looks like a witch's prop on halloween it looks like a witch's prop on halloween she's wrapped around the car she's eating that car she's eating that bumper I'm all of a sudden remembering why I thought she died she was crumpled like a paper mache doll yep it does fuck all because she just comes back later but we'll have to do this piece by piece she used a soul stone and took a health potion evil vision shows up and he's supposed to be a drone that's designed to kill them and instead he's like wander I'm evil by the way like he knows that I don't get it he takes his time you just use the laser on your head and cut her in half glass cannon I knew we were going to install this quirky personality into him it's like he's confused when he first walks to order he's just like what's happening weird life is strange and then he's like lol I'm actually going to kill you and you're like oh my god that made all of the stuff he just did really weird but okay the interesting part to me I think has all been highlighted by many people is the head crack thing I think I even tweeted about it she's the normal sound you have a cracking sound it is undeniably bone cracking sound effects you're just like what is that if it's not her head it should have been instant why wouldn't it even take like he's vibranium this isn't Jason Voorhees where he's a little bit human so it might take him a second to pop that head pimple this is a robot what makes it worse is he's crushing her to the point of her skull cracking that is a strong grip he's got there vision tackles him at the speed of presumably a high amount surely that took him by surprise surely he's taking Wanda's head with him that should have gone pop at least snapping her neck you just see her body flailing around because it's barely attached by the skin of her throat because everything else is broken off like I just maybe I'd wobbly thumb fingers it just walks down like safely it's just a quick fall was he not holding on at all it's like he has butter fingers vision is real fucking lucky he didn't kill him by doing that yeah and like her skull was cracking that well it's fine because if it was she'd be dead so I'm sure it's fine Gary I also like that of all the things he could be tossed into it's the gas the catastor on the caravan just explodes this is when you know we're in for the MCU sludge everyone now for the MCU sludge was there a canister on the back? yeah yeah of all the things he could have been thrown at it's something that explodes it's stuff of course we're back to evil like villain with the same powers as the hero fighting it's like it's super exciting stuff for the MCU was it free were we talking about this like the I can't remember if it was rags how the whole wouldn't it be making more sense to flip them yeah yeah yeah so the logic I had was like if Agatha can suck Wanda's magic powers then surely vision should fight Agatha and Wanda should fight come vision that makes more sense he can't have males fight females anymore the problem now because it would be way more interesting to try and see them counter each other because of course why do I want to see vision fight vision that's fucking I think both of them are lame as fuck as just said it I mean it's going to be stupid but that's the future you're going to see people I mean I don't know if you're going to be able to see like a white guy fight a black guy anymore you know it sounds crazy but that's what they're doing this is all this Bechtel test and you don't want to go down that route because the problem is like when I sit here and think about vision versus come vision it's like why do that I don't see the utility in having two identical characters fight each other my first thing with that fight was just going corporeal and stand still and be like so what are we doing what are we doing because like this fight doesn't end so we have to have it and that's to me is what vision would do he just go thinking and be like you can't hurt me if I really hurt you let's talk which they eventually do but not for a while yeah they're full on man of steel with this fight as well because that was almost a you think you could hurt my mother yeah you can't hurt my mother I'm not usually this confrontational like vision usually will open like trying to be the voice of reason like that's what he does when he arrives at the airport instead of civil war it's like he's usually not like the hot guy in the compound as we highlighted he doesn't even question who evil villain evil vision and purple witch lady are he just deals with it like well this is happening he doesn't even acknowledge her till the end right because they're supposed to be separate that's the way they write shit now it's crazy it's going to be very hard to write superhero films when you put so much restriction on yourself you can't if you're going to have a super powered woman you can't have drinker pointed this out in his villains video at the end of Thor Ragnarok you couldn't have a fully powered Thor taking on Hela oh yeah third party had to slice her apart and yet he says in he says in the very next film I had to kill my sister but he didn't kill her well yeah he could see himself as to blame in terms and he would have been okay with her dying right he would have sanctioned it if you will god you can almost hear Hansima playing when that shot starts yeah so I think it's really weird that Agatha is like uh-oh your ex and your boyfriend at the same place like Agatha aren't you like what the fuck is that what the hell is that what is convision doing here what is this convision nobody behaves like the way they should it's weird exactly yeah I'm fine this vision is trying to kill Wanda that's bad for me because I need to suck her powers and I don't care for some reason what is happening she teleports away closer to the town and so it becomes clear that she wants to start enticing Wanda to cast spells like I said there's some level of making sense here but then when Wanda actually does start casting spells she doesn't do anything remember when she strangles everybody she's got a little red goo coming out of her Agatha doesn't do anything she doesn't do the big suck she does suck on other scenes she's really inconsistent with it you act like the only way that she can suck is when she throws those like balls and then she can suck with that but any other thing yeah what happens that's wonderful if I had like a concrete cube that I put those runes inside and so anybody in there can't cast spells but then I put that in a really big concrete cube that also had runes in it from a different witch and then I put that in a really really big cube with like who's how does that work who's is that I ain't got a fucking Danny LaRoum mate I have no idea it's fine big suck so moving on we get all the hayward stuff we've been over it so we're all good we can move on and the bonus stuff excellent work good job yeah Agatha like tosses and throws Wanda quite a bit with powerful blasts and again it always feels like this applies to Agatha too it's just like do you guys forget these aren't super humans these are people they've got super powers but they're as individuals they're just as mortal as us yeah and then just like in my spooky book it says that you're gonna do you're gonna destroy humanity or something isn't that what she says you're gonna be like you're gonna kill everyone damn I can't remember what exactly she said I just remember thinking like oh god are we doing Dark Phoenix I'm guessing eventually or something yeah probably similar yeah like yeah she says your destiny she can just summon the book of the dam just casually she says your destiny is to destroy the world can I summon an amazing that's your destiny that's her destiny apparently and then Wanda was able to do it later as well like where did she learn to summon the satan book well yeah cause there's no reason why she should be able to do that right like nobody she even says I'm not a witch I don't cast spells and no one taught me magic which how does she even know what astral projection is yeah and interesting she says that and then a few seconds later cast the fucking ruins which don't even match so we can't even have the she has like photographic memory excuse which is still bullshit but also hey come on Harry Potter talks to snakes before he knows he's a wizard that's true and it was Superman's first day you're right wait wanna get a piece of armor but I think the most damning is he's like I'm gonna use my powers and Agatha's like you can't because you're standing in a room with ruins that cancels out witches spells you are casting spells dumbass you can't even just prove it at that point it's terrible dialogue but like Wanda should be a piece at this point we're like yeah I guess I'm a witch then like how else can I explain all this bullshit she's like nope not a witch then cast more spells also we have this fully trained witch here we have this really lame fight where they're just casting magic balls at each other back and forth rather than doing anything creative yeah it looks crap honestly like the fight actually looks like donk shit like the visual effects it's like you know it's kinda like in a really crappy tv show where they just clearly got them on wires and they're just moving the image that they captured around on a green screen it looks really crap it looks really shit like which is weird cause like the vision fight was having like actual you know like effects work and stuff took up all the budget well I read that they only finished the finale two weeks before it aired so they were clearly in a bit of a rush yeah that's not good I was gonna say that might explain why it's some of the worst fucking shit in the MCU ever seen like it's so terrible the following zed is all of the people being released and then one just like stop talking, straggle you all yeah and then let us die please we feel your grief I think it's just infinitely disturbing that she keeps all the children trapped in their bedrooms like what the fuck are you like why did you need to do that why couldn't they get out playing in the parks why couldn't they be doing children things yeah why are you, you didn't have to be so evil yeah does she keep them trapped in their bedrooms while also having them feel her grief so they're like in this eternal like depressive state that's why they're stuck in the room they don't have control over themselves they can't call out to their parents there's no one else there for them they're all alone like that's horrific that's why I don't want to understate it 25 million this cost 25 million it is the most expensive tv show ever made that means three of these episodes are the same price as Joker and they gave it to these writers Joker was 50 million oh two then well if you add marketing I guess I don't know yeah I've had marketing for one division that it just cancels out doesn't it oh in that case actually one division probably has more marketing budget so it might have to whatever so it's Wonder Woman yeah I think Wonder Vision is the most expensive television show ever made it beats out the pacific which is crazy because the pacific and like band of brothers have incredible production values this show kind of doesn't like it has it clearly has better production values and like CW shit but like it's still not you know what I mean like it's still a bit rough I have to question just how like I can understand you know if she's like this magic conduit she might be able to figure out how to do telepathy or telekinesis maybe on her own but like all of this reality manipulating stuff I feel like this is something you would have to learn rather than something you would have intuitive control over of course I don't know absolutely I don't see how you could intuitively be like yeah I can rewind time it's like oh what's like going on in your head when you make that happen what hand gestures are you doing to make that happen and she's doing the big spell look at all this red goo everywhere she's not sucking she's just watching it there's so much goo to suck more it's so frustrated and then she like implies well what are you gonna do to save them you're gonna release them and then she does the big spell the classic laser into the sky which I'm very glad we still have red at this time it was red though they need to stay blue have we had a yellow one yet I don't even know I'd like to see a magenta one I want a purple one I like green one have we had a green laser yeah green lantern they all shot their green coon into the sky and that was cool speaking of so look at all of that glorious red coom going into the sky and look at Haggitha just to the left not doing a fucking thing about it missing the big suck like look how much you could suck there's a whole stream of suckable that effect man that effect is fucking rough oh my it is not it's not casting light it's not really it's not filming it before they add it why isn't that dude doing the big suck I don't know that looks like something I could do in like this is exactly what Haggitha wants she's doing it and she's not doing the big suck well what's weird is that she only begins sucking again when Wanda sorry vision turns back up and they're all talking and then she casts a purple goo spell at them and Wanda blocks it and then she starts sucking it and it's like why were you sucking it before the whole point of this fight was to like bait her so that she would have to use her magic yeah yeah all of this delicious red juice flow the magic apple juice going in suck it suck Wanda come on can we think of another metaphor no never mind and then because this episode is non stop insanity the borders are lifted so that the citizens can escape and then Hayward is like now's our chance let's go in nooo how about we don't Hayward it's funny when she lifts the borders all of the objects in the world are shifting different eras the implication being that while she's like allowing people to leave everything is in a sort of state of oscillation between different things implying that when the borders come back down things will go back to whatever era they're supposed to be so why the fuck this is the thing if I was a part of Hayward's team like we got to go with it I'd be like nah why not let's maybe wait and see what happens first there's kind of a lot of dodgy shit going on right now so I don't think it's a great idea gonna give it 5 gonna have a cup of tea and consequence free as well because the borders go back up but they don't convert to anything they're fine as if the implication is only if you pass through the border do you convert but we know that's not true things are converting in the universe all the time yeah you can see them they're swooping in and out so it's just bullshit they can't keep track of anything why aren't the people turning all 50s and stuff why are they all still 21st century and not turning back into 50s people and 70s people I don't dude it's just no way to this is a very good question the visions fight and they do the thing the lasers lock lasers and they push back and forth I don't know who did it first a lot of people want to reference Harry Potter beam struggles Harry Potter is the one I remember being pretty early but what else is there where they just lock beams didn't they do this in oh isn't it like Iron Man they do it in X-Men 3 between Ice Man and Fire Man you had doomsday is the earliest reference in mainstream movies X-Men The Last Stand is that it was Harry Potter before it might be X-Men 3 well because wasn't the fight X-Men 3 came out before like oh wait no but it was Goblet of Fire or something but they do the first shoot lasers for Man 2 I'm looking for like movie or TV big budgets with the two colours you know like on TV on TV trope they call it Beemo War yeah that's about right Dragon Ball could be the first instance I'd be curious what like one of the most initial ones are Oh Big Trouble in Little China apparently had one wait not The Phantom Phantom Big Trouble in Little China had one The Phantom according to TV Trumps it did well that's what I'm confused about like am I mixing up Phantom is the comic right the purple man yeah remember there being a laser in that huh oh it comes out of the rings you shoot lasers out of the rings the duck had one apparently then it probably is the Phantom then because Phantom's super old hopefully please love that guy he was actually there for like three seconds he was in the end in the portal scene as he should be depending the world anyway vision came through one of the portals yeah with all the revenge ravages or whatever for like three seconds I totally missed that he's next to what he's in the shop where wasp appears if you're curious so what we didn't quite talk about yet for some reason one of Wanda's or both of Wanda's kids can see possibly into the future and danger they detect future danger and they have flashes of it and that's what usually motivates them to do things such as ask Wanda to save vision in episode six or five I can't remember try and save her in episode nine this is a real diverse little village in the middle of nowhere I just don't get it why is it that they have those power because you might be like well they're just like dissensing her experiences but they do it before they happen I don't understand it's a weird one I don't expect anybody to explain it it's okay like why does he have the powers or are they just undefined because that's supposed to weaken let's put it this way the writers were like we've got two problems and it's like oh yeah just two we need to have a reason for the kids to be aware that vision is in trouble and a reason to find out that their mum is in trouble they just know because they can sense it alright we can sense it I don't think the other one you might be right on that at least they decided to say that not both of them can do it just the one that's it it makes them make more sense mom's powers and the other one's got more like his uncle's powers and that's from it's supposed to be the young of they're introducing kind of the young avengers eventually well I'm sure you guys are all excited oh wait yeah so yeah vision and her kids start to disintegrate because again they're totally real and so at this point in the film I was just reassemble them later I guess who cares if they disassemble is this their test run for Disney's live action Pinocchio perhaps I thought this was going to be the moment where she let them go where she sees them fading away and she has to come to terms he's like okay they're not real and then she lets it go because it's the right thing to do once again because the show doesn't trust its audience you have Agatha say something like you have to choose Wanda the people of Westview are your family and it's like shut the fuck up woman but then they could just do Batman forever I choose both you see I am both Wanda Maximoff and the Scarlet Witch bam bam bam bam could she not just like take down the dome let everyone out and then put the dome back up and have no one in the town well we said this before why can't you just put the dome on your house just her house she can go in and out of it follow them around if they want to go outside yeah just put a little dome on them you're like a hamster wheel hamster ball magic hamster ball sorry then we get like the episode just loses its mind in terms of understanding what the hell is happening there's this moment where come vision turns up all the family together Agatha's there, Hayward shows up and a couple of people there also Monica's there and I've talked about this before but when you try and figure out like whether something's making sense or not you're like you need to figure out how did everyone get here what do they all want to do I think we've been over how weird it is that everyone got to where they are come vision's not just lasering them for some reason he's just not he's staring at them to look intimidating he should be but he's just not Agatha sucked the big suck so much that both of Wanda's hands are like black and gooey now I don't know what that means what happened to the witches at the beginning sort of is happening to her now and so we're thinking oh that kills you but face goes later doesn't it how long what is that you know you don't even know how much sucked it was left to get sucked and so we're supposed to assume that if she had like a power level getting sucked that she's a 50-60% sucked so she's still got some left even though it's just not translated all to us we're very confused seemed like weakened her hands are all wilted and all that but she doesn't seem to fight worse or lose anything she's fine when she's quote unquote fully sucked at the end of the fight she's still hovering I don't know why she's faking it I guess I don't seem to think it's weird that she's still flying when the suck has gone to full capacity now Heywood shows up and I'm like what's he going to be doing then is he going to open fire or is he going to try and talk to him I have no idea and the camera zooms in on us with our team of heroes that I'm like wait three of them aren't real what's happening it's just Wanda it's like remember the Incredibles because this shot it's actually like the Incredibles I hate it I'm like dude don't they got the camera down and every god and they're all in red it also makes me cringe when he's like boys we didn't prepare you for this and she's like but you were born for this it's like what the fuck are you talking about what are you talking about they weren't born you fucking created them I don't even know how much they mean to you anyway but also what are you suggesting are these enemies at once do you even have any comprehension of who these people are what they want anymore what about the big suck happening is everyone out of the town everything's up in the air and just stuff happens a human was paid to write that they were really proud of that yeah they were really happy with that shot and I was just like why is it meaningful I have no idea and yeah she's like I would take Agatha Vision Fights Vision for the kids okay but of course I'm loving they do for some reason they take the weapons away on mind control everyone except Haywood and a couple of people in the trucks I guess so that we can have Haywood be evil I guess yep um it's uh also I guess would you call it insane convenience that he's able to get vision to stop trying to kill them by telling about the ship of these years it's to be honest I think there might have been a way for the visions to communicate with one another in some kind of way where vision almost like knows himself in another form but how they did it he had beams, wifi he was confused about how much he's like vision like how much he's exactly the same if he's able to Man of Steel shot again god damn because yeah like I've seen video comparisons I'm not too convinced about the whole it's too similar to Man of Steel there's a lot of things you can connect in a lot of superhero movies when you have two interesting coincidences sure but at the same time like if anyone said like it's copied shots I'd be like I mean the substance of the scenes are completely different they're both awful whatever but like it's you know I mean like as copying goes oh yeah I don't think it's like intentionally copied I just I just find it funny that they're both awful and they both share some shot composition here so I guess my issue is that he's not a drone he's like an actual evil dude who was told to kill vision not the entity that they sent him after targeted wise vision and so it has to be his understanding of vision that he's going to destroy which is this creature and it takes vision saying I'm not vision I'm like a constructed vision and that's enough for him to be like huh weird yeah can you explain that I'm just like wow and of course you might be thinking to yourselves like wouldn't they immediately do things on a computer to make him stop thinking and it's like well they said he's overloaded they can't do it he's like oh fuck it out what I had is if that's the case and like he questions his own like existence wouldn't come vision like kill himself if he thinks he's vision if I honestly thought they were going to do the whole thing where the robot's like wait that's paradox man man yeah I guess I just thought it was way too easy I was like okay cool and the other thing was I think they're trying to get male characters to resolve their fights nowadays without violence because it's too toxic so men talk it out women do the fighting now I mean the thing is if I couldn't end they can both go incorporeal so it's just like whoa but the ship analogy didn't make sense well I kind of agree with you it wasn't the same ship and a new ship it's a new ship everything that the old ship was is gone just because it looks the same doesn't mean that it is it was a concept above the writer's station I think vision says that maybe what makes vision vision is the memories what makes these theses his ship maybe the rot or the planks having been touched by theses himself they only ever ask what might define it the robot himself is just like huh there's no like answer so you can't actually like I find it difficult to criticize it because I have no idea what he's thinking or what he's concluded but he says it's both it's his both the ship and it isn't the ship well this is the thing I don't know why you would program him to have a concept of vision instead of just saying target that individual because your robot now because we programmed you we have total control over you so just laser her that yeah can you just shut up yeah and then of course we went over this earlier but I just think it's a fucking shame that we've got visions body and then visions like spirit if you will and the spirit has unlocked all the memories in the body of vision so now he's vision he's back he can he can turn up in another film now and be a little weird but get back to being vision in the course of like one movie probably and he just fucks right off he just takes off yeah he doesn't help he doesn't help his if he has all the memories of being vision then he's gonna fucking care about doing the right thing yeah he just leaves it's so crap my planet means man just time world yeah why did you say that no speaking of leaving I got I got a bail out right now too sorry that's tough to do five hours but before you go weak sauce do you want to tell everybody what you're up to over on neurotic and why they should subscribe well I'll be talking about this in my next video so yeah yeah I will be breaking down a show that I started liking it first and now I despise absolutely despise yeah so yeah it's such a bummer but it's always a pleasure being on eFap thanks guys have a good day out of curiosity have you recorded the video already I have about half of it done I'm gonna say I don't know if today's helped with any finding more things to just absolutely absolutely I'm glad I waited and kind of drug my feet on this one I thought I was kind of thinking about not releasing it but now I'm definitely going to release it it's there's so much to break down here but I can't watch it again no I absolutely wouldn't recommend the show to anybody it's painful no it's terrible no I mean it's the structure of Disney Plus itself too like these little short 20 one episode is 22 minutes with 11 minutes of credits yeah it is hard to tell a full episode story and then a season story when you have so little time yeah I'm happy I canceled my Disney Plus it's not worth it it's a rip off so hey thanks again guys and thank you for coming on so it's been a pleasure and I'll catch you on the internet some other time I suppose yeah see you Tuesday buddy see you Tuesday later guys bye boy now we have the six man panel I can make us all big icons again oh my goodness I see you've grown since last we've met twice the size double the fall just as brown twice the size double the come oh my god my goodness I can't be said that alrighty so where were we coming through all these events massively yeah so they all do their separate fights Visions is resolved because of the ship Aethes I guess the children's one would be next so we've kind of gone over it he would decide to shoot them they stop him he's hit by voice lady and I've seen the ice cream truck out of nowhere like she just knew and she was driving and she knew that this would be her thing what she wanted to do it's kind of staggering actually but the show didn't care about point and I don't think people watching it had much left to care about too yeah and so that's like resolved the sword people the few that were there all mind controlled except for the people in the trucks who just don't do anything I guess they're like fuck this shit which the only drama that's left now is defeating Agatha because everyone else has done so and so how is this done oh wait I guess yeah Monica's got superpowers we kind of went over this I don't really know what else to say she's another superhero she's going to be a Captain Marvel 2 who knows what else she'll do she'll be a main Avenger it's going to be fantastic she'll be great she'll be amazing again she was fun when she was mind controlled and then she got free will back and she wasted it yeah so this is where it gets really weird and I tweeted about this because I was just lost the last we saw she had sapped Wanda's powers quite significantly and then Wanda sneaks up on her and does Nightmare Tism's honor like we saw in Age of Ultron okay but this one is she takes her into presumably her Nightmare world of being nearly killed by her own coven and then Wanda's like walking around very villainy being like more ha ha and then like lifts all the bodies up to try and attack her and she's like panicking and you're just like wow this is a little this feels a little awkward and then she's probably been a pinnacle of virtue throughout the whole series exactly you just don't know what they're trying to say it was only until we got to the end of these episodes that you could finally figure out what the show has to say about Wanda and it's the yeah she did some stuff that was a little mean sure but she's a good guy she's a meanie pants but the weird thing about this is flipping the stakes to keep us on the edge of our seats done horribly wrong so Wanda was clearly losing now she's clearly winning and then in this scene Agatha is like and then all the coven people turn on Wanda and you're like oh okay I thought she was in control of this this is a Nightmare that she caused but now the people in the Nightmare are being controlled by Agatha what like I don't know how can Agatha control the figures in the dream if like shouldn't she not be able to control that and in Age of Ultron didn't the way it worked in Age of Ultron was that she would show like their worst nightmare but she would not be physically present going boogie boogie boogie but she's in this one and then they attach her to the like steak but and just as you think she's losing this Scarlet Witch crowd appears and you're like what does that mean what is the crown and like even Agatha is like as a viewer I'm just like what does this mean what's happening what would happen if Agatha won quote unquote like what would they burn her and then what would that mean I don't know and so from what we can tell Agatha is maybe winning but then she's like brah and breaks free of the nightmare world that she created for Agatha and tackles Agatha out of it like I was this is before even more crazy shit but it's like I was so lost what is happening who's winning who has power who what even is the motivation I don't know the fuck's that and so they fly up do their big battle now here's another flaw for vision unfortunately but he tries to help her and she puts up a barrier and he's like oh man I want to help you around the barrier well I don't know she like wraps it around him whatever the point is that she doesn't keep doing it and he refuses to help her even after there's no barrier his beloved his beloved wife is is gulified head down in the sky fighting a horrible magic monster person that he just he just watches he's like I don't know and yeah as the fight goes on she's just blasting red balls of goo and turns out she's setting she's setting up some runes without Agatha realizing and then she's not the big suck is doing nothing wouldn't she be able to feel that yeah so that none of this makes any sense all of her magic is prevented yet she doesn't seem to notice until she tries to cast spells but how is she sucking her it's weird that this person who's had hundreds of years of spell practice gets beaten in spells by Wanda I went like when she told her about the runes I'd be like hey Agatha do you have any concerns about her doing that to you I don't know what he can do if she does that like well I just hope she doesn't really like I can believe that Wanda has more like magical potential like say there's an there's a threshold for everyone so Wanda has like the higher threshold but the thing is that doesn't translate into being automatically better at magic that just means that you have more potential I don't even know that I think it's reasonable that she would have more potential than a person who apparently has been sucking all of across centuries like her power is to take power from others to me it feels like Agatha should probably be next level the only thing that beats her out is the fact that people are going but she's the Scarlet Witch though what is that? well luckily she's the right person to do that like okay she is the Scarlet Witch meaning she is more powerful you're like fine I guess I thought that Agatha would be the if there was going to be a most powerful person it would be the person who takes powers from people but um oh well Agatha realizes at the last moment I can't cast spells and it's because she's been outwitted and she again I don't get this she was faking being a ghoul why? she's hundreds of years old with outwitted by missing a person who didn't even know what runes or spells were five minutes ago terrible cool right yeah I just again I was just like did you troll her is that why you were a ghoul you were like lol you fell for it it's just a delusion you're like okay and yeah that's the main drama over the rest is sort of aftermath and all of it is disturbing we're going to get to the favorite line aren't we well yeah we're almost there now so she like she gets her new outfit which by the way I actually prefer her Civil War Age of Ultron type outfits this one's weird it's silly kind of well apparently it's comic accurate is what people are very happy with I'm sure that's I like the crown that's about it I don't get the crown why does she have a crown I don't know I don't know why what sense it makes I'm more just thinking I'm more just going like totally aesthetic so she creates like a suit this is more I've always expressed this pet peeve I find it very frustrating that now like the Marvel movies constantly want to take them out of the costume or off take the mask off all the time and now it's like you know I don't know it just bugs me well I guess a fun comparison would be like you know like when we were like electro suit just comes out of nowhere it even has like an electro bolt it's just funny so we're like Iron Man they took time to justify a lot of the design decisions he has and how it ends up looking the way it does it's not just it looks that way because of the comics it's cool it stands on its own while also being out of nowhere I would argue it's more satisfying as an adaptation if they go through the time of like really getting it to that end point of looking like the comics through the story and even if the comics didn't have an explanation you create a satisfying like explanation for why they look that way but instead it's just like oh I absorbed the magic into me and I created clothes this is not great it's not like a huge issue at all I just don't know just like okay then she's the Scarlet Witch the Scarlet Witch has a crowd you're like okay did all the other Scarlet Witches have that? I don't know if there is there's only one right they can't be multiple they can't be more than one well assuming that they all destroy the will they would only be the one I guess it's funny to me she gives she gives a counter-suck to one he won't even say Glenda I fucking my brain it's Agatha I found it amusing Agatha as she's getting sucked is like stop giving me suck good chance to suck you don't like this Agatha don't like no suck what is with his Disney properties and their suck Brisa Skywalker did this too didn't it yeah lots of suck here I am all the Witches and I am all the Scarlet oh my god all the Witches that's iconic that is what you just said iconic so that takes us to she lands them both down and then we get the really disturbing scene where Agatha is like I beg you don't torture me forever you cruel person and then she does good Glenda is like smiling she's got this like flat look on her face like she's not remorseful in the slightest necessary she does it because she wants to because she's a horrible person yeah it's like oh and even Agatha specifically says like it's cruel I can't argue with that it is cruel I shouldn't be agreeing with her do you remember oh this is the line I think I meant to bring this up earlier when she's a nightmare world she says to Agatha about the Witch Trial thing like the difference between you and I is that you did this on purpose like you mean she defended her life on purpose yeah I mean meanwhile Wanda is actually citing what she's done to the town is like hey at least I didn't do it on purpose it's like you did though so you're just lying this is what I mean about them accidentally making her super villainous throughout the show I don't even think the writers knew what the deal was with how aware she was with all the Tism she fuck it all I don't think the writers knew it's anything yeah I've seen with the rifle the dome that like throws a wrench into so much because it's just like so she's aware she's 100% aware right but then the rest of the show is like no no which one is it and so they try and do like a wrap up despite the really haunting thing of like Agatha's forced smile in terms of just like really happy to be here Han it's just like oh and she smiles at her it's like funny or something but it's like really unsettling and scary to think about imagine if that was you by the way that is a villain smile that is a fucking villain smile monica vision and the kids do it by the way and they don't give a shit I guess it wasn't her name at all Agatha had a big suck she'd already been sucked okay so presumably she has no power anymore but even if she did that is not because she says like what are you gonna do lock me away it's like well if you had half a brain cell you'd be like I guess I have you have to be potentially punished by the earthly authorities because it's not on me to decide that you should be cursed forever in a tomb of your own making well my making of you being unable to move but you being conscious like what the fuck staggering really so many things not good and it's so funny because she decides what punishment should be given to someone like Agatha meanwhile when the world comes for Wanda she runs away a piece of shit character like it's so hard to like it now and it must be reiterated how is Agatha maintaining that form outside of the dome no idea it's a private spell to put a necklace on it I don't know I don't know it's it may did it so it's solidified and like that's who she is but at the same time she's trapped forever Wanda suddenly has complete control of her abilities the whole thing was that she didn't and that's why the spell was all poop but she didn't actually learn how to un-poop her magic whatever with great power comes something I don't know with great power comes the desire to punish people even though they've done less than me yep way less significantly less and I get to go and chill out in a nice little cabin out in the Alaska or something I like that they think it's enough that she said like I'm sorry it's beyond absolutely beyond before jumping to that scene though anyone else think it was weird as fuck when she says thank you for choosing me to be your mum yeah fire goodbye is really backwards what the hell are you trying to she created them at that point I got very confused I'm like did she actually steal these kids from someone else that was what I thought when she said that I'm like wait a minute I don't understand what the hell she meant by that I don't know what she's referring to no I need the writer to tell me what the fuck they were trying to say because I didn't catch it well the horrifying implication to me was that she had brainwashed two other children and made them her children and now she's giving them back or something but that doesn't really work because they disappear yeah yeah and then they attracted some ultimate mention apparently she's full of shit and then vision says goodbye and they do the thing again because it's consistent in the season that they do not trust you he's like wonder what am I and then see because this is the thing I think you could have an answer to that question that can make you think but I believe they took that away from you like they did give you a chance to consider what the implications of why he was created and what he means and stuff and so like for example just them talking about what they meant to each other people and then if he said you don't even need to have him ask like what am I I feel like this is the discussion that we're supposed to have but it's like an explanation you would find like an encyclopedia or something yeah but you know they make it explicit in case anyone didn't catch it so the video essays have like a guideline she says um it's not even well written she goes you're my sadness you are my hope but mostly you're my love okay what does that mean it's all of your feelings all of it good too none of the grief is explored none of the like I created you to cope basically I created you because I couldn't accept the reality that you were actually dead and so I made you like that's just never addressed and it's it's all happy and it's like this shouldn't be this way this should be bittersweet if not like hard to swallow well she did all the sucks she's just not a swallow she shouldn't have made of cope like this kind of sucking should get you in jail I'd say it was a first degree sucking mm-hmm mm sucking the first degree um she undoes the barrier and then it's time for the walk of shame that apparently from what I've heard was included specifically to show us that she's a bad person right but it's like it backfired completely the line but there's interesting ways of showing things wait what do you mean from what I remember reading it was like we needed this scene because this scene shows you that the damage she's done is significant and the like what she shouldn't like be able to get away with it scot-free um but then you have the protagonist tell her it's okay what if I would have done the same thing and you stuck around so much never they can know it you are such a hero you've got to point at this out and that makes you so I guess that gets her powers taken away but apparently she was still flying no well I assume that she's being held by Scarlet Witch oh yeah I don't know why she's dead honestly I was waiting for them to start picking up fucking bricks and throwing them at her I'm not sure what they're doing here to be honest with you if I was released from this town I would never fucking step foot in here again I'd be like yeah I'd be running I'd be running but they're all here like they had a fucking town meeting and here comes Wanda remember how weird this is right Wanda gives up her house her home her dome and her only goal is to go away instead she walks into the center of town to meet up with Monica who tells her it's all good you're fine and then she goes what what was she coming here for what gives Monica the right to say that you want no authority to say that hey Wanda she got powers out of it of course she's the one who says it thanks for this by the way I'm alright Jack isn't it oh that's good we've had the evolution of them where did you learn how to suck on a farm no in a brothel oh my god I'm a firewife to suck my entire life I've been trying to suck for 400 years I was mastering my suction where did you suck I was born to suck molded by it molded by the suck until I was a man may the suck be with you the suck side of the suck there's a lot of I almost want her to say I would have brought back my mum too I want one of the town folk to stab and be like yeah actually we've all lost people we want them back but it's not really good to fucking enslave everybody the Guardians of the Galaxy is like oh boo who my wife and child are dead everyone's got dead people it's no excuse to get everyone else dead that explores this thing better it would be probably like work better as she was walking past one of the townspeople like spat on her you know this cliche thing of like I hate you I think that would be actual Game of Thrones walker shame honestly in this scene though if that happened I would be talking about how they frame that as bad like they frame the people's reaction as bad intolerant towns folk yeah like the towns folk are being belligerent it's like chill out she let you all go you could have captured more of you yeah I actually Hitler eventually killed himself okay so he was fine he did the good right at the end there I saw somebody saying like oh everybody's getting so like you're overreacting to this like this is just you know this is just a dumb show it's like oh man I forgot you people exist like do you not understand that this ruins the character well understand right and wrong I was a wonders destroyed decisions damaged and these new characters like I don't give a fuck about them because they came from here so they got a lot of repairing to do if they want me to care and then the world building rather the world destruction is catastrophic they've more damage been done to the world in this episode or this series rather than I think it's not a world anymore it's an asteroid belt they've demolished it unfortunately yeah it is it is the single worst face of content in the MCU to do like a big sense of a rundown I would say is wonder can theoretically impossibly just absolutely create and change matter at will she can the level of power she has is beyond understanding and control so it'll depend on what she wants I guess is what can happen next this is just going to change everything forever if she stays in the MCU because what threat could possibly put up against her I don't understand like why would I especially now that she's more power she's basically rewarded within this show that's been rewarded yeah she's read the books who knows what power she's going to be unlocking instead of the the latter films man it's just it's amazing to think about I don't know what we're supposed to make of sword as an organization like they are pathetic in idiotic like going forward it's going to be really fun to see them in the and they're probably going to be a huge part going forward as well what to do the productive in this show like at all what's one thing that they do which is like a victory for them or something that is like successful anything that the characters who are good people do in relation to sword I guess you know like they made a good coffee they made a good cup of coffee they did yeah yeah hmm maybe yeah so I remember someone asked as well like what's the idea with like does she prevent couples from having sex or does she force them to oh she kept the couples together I wonder woman that's just what was like the show does what adds to that question um it depends what era they're in which is like a that's less a world building issue it's just really disappointing that they threw that in for no reason at all other than to build hype and stuff um Dr. Strange among many other Earthly defenders if you will Earthly Avengers rather would have to explain why they weren't here for any of this and forthcoming stuff and it's going to be hard to justify that um and yeah I think that this show has really made me feel like the EBSU is done with doing anything grounded it's like everything's up in the air you can do whatever you want shut up it's story telling is about the emotional payoffs it's not about regarding things that came before and it's about having cool crazy costumes and a skull at which ooh ooh sorcerer supreme you're better than him power levels yeah it's like no no witness soldier was your such a great grounded spinach thriller I guess we should man what's a soldier maybe well this is the thing it's like it's not impossible witness soldier is like a masterpiece compared to this I just think that the attitude behind something like WandaVision is going to infect more and more as time goes on like the more you damage the less inclined people will be to pay attention to what came before right like why bother yeah it's already broken as fuck anyway fuck it it's uh yeah like the mind control slash power giving items of accessories or clothing or whatever just like that just breaks everything I don't think we need to go over that again is the um like Agatha and Wanda would be power dispensers and the EBSU just breaks all over again and then of course the runes uh aside from all the things we just mentioned the runes would just destroy any magical battle in future because like surely every wizard of any kind of like like higher level would be aware of this these things sound incredibly OP yeah um yeah WandaVision have sex does that mean the rest of the towns folk have to feel that as well that's a welcome release from the pain and grief cycle I still don't understand how a civil war better than Winter Soldier that would be for another time I'm afraid maybe one day um yeah and you know what I guess the only other thing I guess is worth mentioning is the the adverts they were they were kind of neat uh I'll run through them quick because I just got them listed with what I assume they were uh the toast mate being this like when when they push the toast down it makes Iron Man's like pulse charge sound and the red light being it's just fully representative of the uh the missile um and maybe because this is the thing I would prefer to look into it but again like I don't get encouraged to when the show is made by fucking idiots because it's just like I don't think they cared about it that much but um it says forget the past this is your future like oh that could play into like not only uh wonder trying to forget the reality and build her own future out of it um it could be a literal like the past being her family enjoying those videos being destroyed by that missile this is your future it's like that's another one then it could play into Tony that his goal is to like rectify his past and create like a better and newer future in hopes of like not necessarily forgetting but it would be reviewed that way from like a third party that he's trying to ignore what came before in his past and that his future represents but and I was just like oh there's so many things I could write because I was really happy with that first ad I think it was what I was watching with rags and uh and I think it was Jay I was watching but I was just like oh this is this is my jam there's so much you can pull out of this yeah we were yeah it was you and I and then you have we were just like excited the Strucker watch he'll make time for you I think is it or he's making time for you something like that and it's just yeah Strucker was the one who organized the experiments that gave them their powers so he would have kept an eye on them and whatever it's like all right uh the Hydra soak like a woman who escapes the drama to find the goddess within like almost on the nose uh if you can sit at the season the Largo's paper towers towers for cleaning up your mess yeah it's just like yeah spilling red and I just feel like these get worse the more they go on in terms of being able to think about them is the go magic the snack for survivors the experiments for like the people uh they were all dying from it except for Wanda and um and her brother I presume that accessing the snack is like unlocking the powers versus dying and then um Nexus being a unique antidepressant order the reality of your choice because the world doesn't revolve around you or does it and it's just like and then you realize that each of them represent like the timeline in the season they go from uh rather not just the season but like her life they are they are the significant events of her life matching and there's lots of similar symbols and um representatives like the I think the Hydra soak is shaped like the Tesseract or is it it's either that or something else but yeah they're all you know a slight some work went into them I guess I just want to appreciate that I like them a bit so they wouldn't eat I don't know me too because they do seem like ads from the different times like the early 2000s I'm like okay I saw that all over the early 2000s it was kind of funny on that level and there some of them were there was a clay motion one uh or stop motion animated one that was cool oh yeah yeah it's quite dark too yeah it was yeah I got to where it was like oh yeah this is getting messed up now oh boy even like something that would be like a kids like something like on the cartoon network or something like that like some one of those ads and then it turns all dark yeah that's insane oh god uh and yeah that's that's main that's that's like it for the the run over and now it's really just sort of whatever you guys want to say it's um it was really bad yeah yeah it was disastrous it was worse than I especially with the context of looking at it from how I Mando was the same way worse what's the first couple episodes the first time and I'm like wow I'm so like excited and this is great and then you're like oh it's actually really really shit oh that's right on to the next Disney show and then Wandavision comes out and the first three episodes alright we got some really interesting here this is really cool I'm excited to see where it goes turns out to be the worst Marvel stuff that's out there in a world with Captain Marvel and Black Panther and all that crap this is the worst this is disastrous but really hard top like the MCU like the the world building has already been largely shattered by end game and like to do for this to come out and destroy so much more and basically like further salty earth I'm just like I dread whatever comes next for the mp I don't see any fixing it no then only reboot it either so it's like they're too invested no it's made too much money and it's going to keep making money if they get like 9.1s on Metacritic for like those episodes were bad this is the thing that they might take wrong lessons from that they may be like okay for this you know the thing is like whether or not a solution exists to fix it or the problem is that they don't recognize that there's a problem so you can't fix something when you don't realize that it's broken you know and as far as I can tell this is like a slam dunk run yeah they're only getting like tweets about people being unhappy they're just like well you know there's always someone who doesn't enjoy it like oh okay we're disappointed if they didn't get the answer yeah they thought it was going to be Mephester that was their mistake they were stupid for thinking that things that we set up being significant weren't significant yeah they thought Quicksilver excuse us again aren't we that oh you didn't live up to your fan theory therefore oh there were definitely people on twitter saying like the only reason you didn't like it is because of fan theories it's like no it's just deficient massively it doesn't make sense I wasn't one of those people who's like oh maybe it's this weird like like really obscure Marvel villain like I don't care I just wanted something good I think that well do we uh do we plan to do any uh other e-fabs relating to one division responses to people of us like great or you're gonna make a video you're gonna respond to people talking about it positively it's like the latter is possible the former was a partial consideration and I was like I need to not start another project I gotta finish the boys okay it's gotta happen um I would say that we did a pretty damn good job of dismantling the whole season here today like if anybody wanted to know what is functionally uh praiseworthy and simultaneously absolutely criticisable about the whole season I think we did a good job we also have five hours probably around at least of um just full coverage structure was a little bit hilarious like we didn't go in chronological order because it's like kind of hard too because it's like relatively great and after that let's go topic by topic I don't think we covered everything but I think we covered the biggest stuff or at least everything that I knew to be the biggest stuff if you think it's good after listening to us I I don't know what to say I'm not sure what it is you value about it I would like to understand if it's just the experience of it like the feeling of it it's like alrighty then it's like I don't know what you take away from that that's good I mean all I can think is you people project their own like like you see all the potential so people just project the potential onto it and then they just see the potential and they don't actually see what kind of catastrophic disaster it is I think that's kind of the general argument that's been going around is like at least it's new it feels unique it's different from Marvel it felt unique at the start but now it doesn't like the last episode doesn't feel unique to me at all that just feels like Ant-Man and the Wasp tier kind of like this is just standard Marvel sort of indistinguishable from anything like the whole thing now feels indistinguishable from anything when I think about the like last few episodes yeah it's just it's just it is Marvel sludge this old stuff was it was so poorly written but even worse than poorly written it was so generic yep it was just generic you have this great concept and an idea going on underneath the bubble you have this time fluctuating between sitcoms you have this great relationship between vision and wonder and then you go outside and it's just like a procedural bollocks really poorly written procedural drama and then you go back inside and they take vision away from wonder and as soon as they took vision away from wonder the whole thing fell apart because those two were the lynchpins of this and they were the lynchpins when they were together I did think that Elizabeth Olson and Paul Bethany I did think their performances were superb throughout I think they did the best that they could with that material and I think Elizabeth Olson is actually a pretty good actress having watched this stuff it killed the show just killed the show garbage garbage what a shame what an absolute shame it's a travesty and on that note we didn't know I'm not positive no we'll start going through super chats but of course since you've now been sucked for your anti-wonder vision information any of you are welcome to jump out if you wish you didn't have permission before but now you do if I could because I got stuff to do tomorrow can I plug something is that okay you absolutely can thank you folks in the audience if you would be so beautifully kind my single yes I said it my musical single is up on Spotify and iTunes to purchase Meltdown Oceanman problem being versus Hill versus Babyface I could get links if I'm allowed to go for it yeah if you give me one I'll post it in to post a link where do you want me to drop the link just putting this chat I can get into the in the discord chat okay so this is the that's the iTunes one and if I grab the Spotify one this is a song that was mixed together from my ranting at Batwoman and 75% of the profits I'm donating to Zack Snyder's suicide prevention charity I'm not the other 25 is going to the producer I'm not making a dime off this so it's about 99 cents to purchase please purchase it because like I said 75% is going to charity and really just want to make as much money for charity as possible so the Spotify link and the iTunes link is with more and thank you very much indeed if you do mm-hmm yeah the link should in the description now so if you guys want to jump on it it's also dropped in the old live chat I'll just spam it a little bit and yeah yeah check it out definitely and it's very kind of you to do um it's not a problem at all it's not you know doing stuff like this for a charity is you know I didn't mix it I didn't produce it I just had a rant and somebody came to me and said look I've mixed it and produced it to this so you know to put my money and organise for the other 50% of the proceeds anyway to go to charity was not an issue I'd rather it go somewhere that it could do more good than me shouting at Batwoman and thank you very much indeed Mola Rags for having us on that was really good I thought this was a beauty I gotta say I thought this was a not so hum thing I loved it and thank you to the rest of the panel for putting up putting up with a cocky outspoken Yorkshaman well thank you very much for your input I feel we have successfully thrashed Wanda Vision apart in exchange for it subjecting us to its horrors I think the transaction is completed and thank you chat as always you are magnificent nice to see the chat really getting involved and stuff so thank you links I think Mola said he's put into the description box it should be at the top and then obviously your channel link is in there as well it tells me it's updated I hope it is if you hit refresh you might have to refresh your screens folks to show it you have to refresh your own screens but thank you very much guys and I will catch you hopefully sometime soon we'll see you around we'll see you later every single you know in some ways I think it's actually better to have not gone chronologically just because the flow of the conversation it's all very it all bleeds into each other because it's a lot of setups and payoffs all it is it's just trying to keep track of what we need to cover and what was covered so I think we did quite alright I think it's so too I'm thinking so too is everyone else hanging around or how are we doing good to hang if you are ringing yeah yeah my brain is sort of dying but it's the middle of the day that's the perfect time to die well yeah I shall read off some superchance as we go hopefully we can get through today's one I'm just working on the thumbnail for the crash video so it's nearly done I swear there's still so much work that's left to be done like last night I went through and with the script open and started highlighting all of the stuff I need to rerecord and I think it's probably like a good fifth of the video if not like a quarter of just dialogue that doesn't sound right or has pops and stuff so yeah coming along I am editing a specific video that is hopefully going to come out very soon more videos I'm drawing faces if I finish getting this in order to make sure oh yeah actually I'm not sure what dolphin game I should play I've unlocked everything in Super Smash Bros and I did all the event things I did all of Mario Kart in one catch up maybe Mario Party would that be boring I don't know who knows we'll try something but yes I shall begin entering any things that may not have been asked as we went through I'm going to get a food food I've been looking forward to this count cookie hopefully it was everything you dreamed of this is not how I envisioned Uganda Uganda not sure maybe I'm missing a meme wow huge panel so excited for this EFAP hell yeah we are we had a good one opinions from all over the globe usually what we do but hey oh no this game isn't running very fast if it doesn't level out we'll probably try something else this is a night fire by the way let me see I don't think so I did this is one of the first games I got on Gamecube if not the first I was like whoa this next level graphics incredible control something else I'll say pressed by melee's graphics when I came out looks so real rags doesn't this rifle look real oh if you haven't got it up don't worry what was it aiming let me take a look I had it blocked out I can just click the life button let me take a look oh yeah that's yeah that's basically a realist this is whenever you hear about realistic graphics this is it yeah it's one night fire that's not real I don't know what it is is this Mario Party one of the prequels yeah rag Beretta 92 or 1911 pistol and why Beretta 92 the reason being I want a more manageable caliber and a much higher capacity Beretta 92 holds like double plus with a 1911 does so that's what I'm going with alright Beretta is underrated in my honest word also true to EFAP I don't know what's true alright it's like true to Caesar most think robots are smarter than humans thoughts humans are smarter than humans I guess they want to be they want to comma there like thoughts on robots or humans being smarter sure is dependent on categories at that point and what we're using as a parameter like it's unfair because like a computer I'm pretty sure computers don't match like the way that the brain functions at the moment but obviously like a computer has can't be wrong yeah like if you yeah if you can program a computer to do particular mathematic or algorithmic related tasks it'll completely outshine a human yeah but a human is extremely adaptable and it just gets things that a robot can't get give it time though yes the abstract thought part that we're better at while they will do maths infinitely faster than us yeah and it also comes down to how we judge what intelligence is right yeah of course it's complicated Cineash animations made a mod for I think it's funky Friday night funk or something like that you should play a free-fab gaming or a meme fap it's incredible I've seen it in the memes but I have not like looked at it yet during the stream really impressive he's gotten a lot of this right from all the guests in there he's working very hard on it is it like a guitar hero could you put like any song in it or is it only like the ones they have in it it's like DDR kind of thing um do you have a frets on fire did anyone play that no I remember elite beat agents frets on fire was like guitar hero but for your laptop kinda anyway all that for a bono joke apparently but the funny is in the fact that you should admit that you shouldn't have gotten your hopes up for something more meaningful I didn't even know it was a joke at first it took me by surprise yeah then I was like oh and uh yeah it was really good because doesn't she say like Ralph boner and then he goes boner oh get it because his name is boner oh that's like that is not even an MCU humor that's like even worse than MCU humor yeah it's more yes it's just juvenile and observation and a humor honestly like smarts or something very little tear clever bono joke like Richard Cranium that could be alright uh hey guys just wanted to say thanks for everything you guys do I didn't really put much thought into film critique and what makes a good film until I found this community you're all very funny oh oh sweet very nice of you and yeah um hoping to maybe one day push for better shit might get there you know give it a chance give it a few decades it'd be great but until then we'll just have to chat with each other and that's good enough uh lord long bone of mubchlington abbey jackson's attitude with kong is the reverse of ryan and tlj ryan wanted to redefine star wars but didn't want to understand it but uh kong 33 was jackson's favorite movie kong 05 is best fucking fan film ever made um I haven't seen it for a while I don't know what the general take is on it from like kong fans but um from what I understand it's not well liked which is weird because when it came out I really liked it I like have a lot of a lot of really great stuff in there in terms of fights and monsters and to remember everyone saying it took too long to get to skull island there I've been like I don't really mind if it's worth it yeah um well the thing what I love is that they didn't just like have dinosaurs and stuff that they just transplanted onto the island they actually went through the thought of a thought pattern of what would happen if it was actually like 65 million years later so the t-rex is no longer a t-rex it's I think it's actually called a v-rex because it's got a an evolved jaw and it's got three fingers now and it's much more um adapted to that environment so they really put a lot of thought into it and they actually released an entire book that I own um detailing all the fauna and flora on that version of skull island it's good shit hey what I'll never forget the scene with the bugs nightmare nightmare fuel yeah I mean it's like even it's kind of like skull island in a way where the movie but man there were some crea- that island will fuck you up I mean I don't even know I need to rewatch it but like because it could be a strong movie from I just can't remember it yeah maybe I suppose uh fringy metal and jay sorry oh in kong in king kong 2005 she goes ice skating with kong at one point I just remember that that's adorable shut up uh fringy metal and jay are the heart of e-fap and should start their own podcast either a pre-show called pre-faps or another show called afterfap um um I don't know if you guys want to go ahead and make your own show instead of just covering all this show I mean if you really want to I do want to start doing a podcast on my show they won't be like they won't be like e-faps they'll just be things we either would not cover on e-fap or just super cash stuff yeah uh a very very coomy smoothie okay non-salty fair enough if the kids are imaginary what was vision-protecting I don't know what anybody thought of the kids I don't get it I don't get it I hate kids they're fake they're not real they're all very confusing they even exit to lose just whatever just let me play the game goomp okay we'll go halfway I'm probably going to be very bad at this um off-topic question for Fringy did you ever play the Octo expansion for Splatoon 2 and if so what were your thoughts uh yeah I played it but that was a long time ago because I think that came out like 2017 I remember enjoying it but I don't remember anything about it which is worse not killing what we hate saving what we love or they'll never know what you sacrificed for them they'll never know what you sacrificed the sacrifice that justifies slavery um yeah because I guess you could kind of say like Rose was a fucking moron while uh Monica was incredibly immoral yeah I think it's like the sentiment of Rose is like if you could interpret this favorably but you never know what you sacrificed from it's like nah you'd know shut up most things come from like a misguided notion like she's saying Ernest and it's like okay maybe I see what you're coming from but it's a weird philosophy but the other one is like morally backwards yeah what a shame old fingers what I want I guess no that's still inverted god damn it oh I can invert it myself excellent uh don't know when this will be read but meme repository you have a stunning voice good sir oh I thank you very much that's very true oh yes Fringy has the correct opinion on Gallipoli you guys need to watch that movie oh yeah I think we talked about that a different stream yeah Gallipoli is a good it's like one of few Australian movies that I've watched and really enjoyed fair enough what up Ewoks oh you know just yo talking about a TV show five hours as you do balls are trying to figure out the controls of this game and what I can even do my items can I put a silencer on making it so that my gun makes no sound at all that would be that's how they work oh I have a laser neat can that tear through people's brains probably shouldn't try it should I that's a hmm what's the water Superman laser just like some on fire all right here we go maybe it's just an open doors no is it working no oh god what if I stun him I'm gonna stun your buddy oh that worked electric car keys gotcha yeah I'm a good person I wouldn't just execute a person he's down for the count now I guess also I have picked up his gun winter COVID sniper I'm good at this game I really love silly spy gadgets oh my god I got predator vision how do I is there a way to silence me oh he's getting back up no stop sit down laser him again oh now he's like he's not fully done this game was heavily inspired by golden eye I don't know it looks it looks very stand up yeah how do I use my camera this is a micro camera apparently there we go oh this game was ahead of his time I can take pictures okay one snap all right that was worth it really bad day I'm still like I know there's a silent there we go it's L R one okay I do that with a sniper all right I'm sorry dude it's time for you to die I get his pistol now too hey um can I get a hell yeah for the infantry sure hell yeah hell yeah hell yeah locked an interesting video to watch for Suicide Squad is what cultures how they should have made Suicide Squad um haven't seen that one I think we're planning on covering at least one of suicide like for for an EFAP I'm not sure what it is yet but isn't watch culture they just do like very generic sort of commentary on like the watch mojo type stuff yeah they're the people we hate I'm pretty sure they made a video where they said Monster Hunter World is like Dark Souls in fact that reminds me because I'm pretty sure I need to grab that for my crash video that specific clip Dark Souls are they retarded many people are thanks for all the oh oh it autos for me onto people that makes it easier thank you game I guess thank you all for the entertainment my dudes working on my car and listening never seen WandaVision but excited to hear you guys talk about it I'll keep it up um I don't know how that stream would have gone for someone who has no idea what WandaVision is because we would jump in between a lot of things I don't know if I'm able to follow it hard to follow I would say it's probably worthwhile seeing the show before this stream well but it's not worthwhile to see the show so if you want to know what we're talking about and understand the criticisms of it for the interest of writing or something then go for it but not good though and to be honest with you if you're invested in the MCU you're gonna probably have to see it I guess yeah definitely kind of why I saw it it was I was just like you know it's part of the MCU why not I'll just do it what's up all my tiggers oh that's not going in the poo yay don't play DDLC all it has is shock value it's the visual novel for normies who watch game theory there are winged cloud vans that have better plots but I won't spoil it just in case you decide to read it though that's gonna upset the DDLC guy yeah this just has a load of W's and then high rags hi well I am a load of W's basically yeah how do I get health back health give me uh rags do you remember the last time you engaged in that practice named after Sodom from the bible do you remember the first also Haimutl I feel like this has been asked before but yeah I do you definitely don't forget that what a very specific question yeah I don't know the other answers you know have you heard of the video from Pave teasing a future podcast episode going after southpaw entitled southpaw versus the efap community oh that's uh watch that with southpaw that video is ridiculous apparently it's just like a teaser but yeah there's he gets so many things wrong awful one went up basically this stream started I think oh seriously video or is it like a stream it's like two hours long oh that's gonna be a golden wait so it's a stream of them talking about southpaw yeah it was a compilation of a couple of streams like things he said on efap and things that like he put on twitter I think and it was basically making arguments against him and like how he engages with the efap fan base so uh that's wrong well what's what are we mainly is it like his takes on like spider-man or someone else takes like relations yeah more personal more like with how he engages with his audience because there you probably know this but there's a ton of people who just hate him and it's like yeah those people have manifested and made themselves into a video so we will get to see what they're talking about they can yield into the internet very well um sorry what's that a link for that video I need to look that up oh yeah let me just grab it it was one of the discords I'm in I've collected discords like tumors wait let's see where is it here it is I just implied that I collect a lot of tumors or something that's an interesting there are you oh no that's the one where you have the silly thumbnail of here's my doodle I drew bloodhound from matrix legends that's my doodle nice I didn't even I did that with my mouse with your mouse I wish I could draw drawing is gay what do you want to do that I hope you like especially if you're doing digital art just like drawing the same line 15 times before it actually comes out the way you want I have a little bit of experience with that because I've had people draw things for me and then I colored it in myself so I've kind of had to do that and it is frustrating it's really painful there's a lot of things about doing art that's just misery like hey how long is it going to take to get to the school level you want to be at oh probably like 10 to 15 years awesome here we go they followed up with asking are we going to cover it sounds like a the southpaw thing I mean like a I don't think we're going to cover it like it's just something they got a small channel I don't want to poke the bear and it's just I bet all the arguments are not going to hold up but we'll have to see yeah like we have a lot going on between the the PAFE and the southpaw but I I'm sure you guys will settle it just fine also hi rags hey reminder the Zack Snyder is so edgy he writes all of his scripts using macro hard macro hard it says macro hard colon n word I don't what's happening okay I don't know anything about that macro hard it's the opposite of Microsoft oh okay well you know what I appreciate that why are the enemies want to kill me here we go ridiculous hello to all present fappers totally unrelated but more have you seen the whaling Korean film a fine horror film if these tism eyes do see I have not heard of it or seen I heard that I haven't seen it I'd have to look into it though I've heard that's good from what I've seen well oh so you've watched Lord of the Rings we'll do it again those films heckin earn it I could honestly see down the line me and rags do it and you've had movies Lord of the Rings again just hopefully other things to say yeah maybe yeah Jay has you still not seen well I've seen fellowship which is even worse it is worse to appreciate her face is in that your gold it says mission failed kill civilians I should just be reprimanded morally don't make me restart that's rude they have no civilians have no idea what you sacrificed yeah I'm doing a bond um the popcorn don't worry about Doctor Strange 2 guys Sam Raimi is directing it he makes excellent superhero movies right oh that's how Paul has said that you gremlin how could you say that bad man just like the DCEU Superman they're going to make an unintentional sociopath the main character with Wanda yes they've committed to that now that is the reality that we're in enjoy it I suppose can I kill both of these guys with one shot get his arms their arms even oh I got one of them boo uh rags had his mainframe hacked um oh that's probably related to when you make horrible noises when I listen back to this I'll get to hear what it sounds like from everyone else's perspective I hope it doesn't kill anyone yeah the way to describe it was pain Greetings Longmen a new Ninja Turtle game was announced which made me want to ask on the TMNT movies were the ones from the 90s good films and how bad were the Michael Bay ones also high rags I think I watched one of the Michael Bay ones and I don't remember thinking it was good so those actually aren't Michael Bay like Michael Bay didn't direct those actually it's the funniest thing so so many people do think he did but he produced production companies I watched the first one it was pretty bad from what I remember at least they look like gremlin like weird they're trying to make them look too human so it's like photo realism really did not work in their favor like they were trying to make them somewhat realistic but it was just uncanny yeah it needs to be realistic texture not realistic design you know it needs to be that detective Pikachu thing where it's like got the cartoonyish proportions but it's um you know the texture and the lighting and everything make it blend into the live action stuff um yeah I don't really have any opinions on all of it so I just didn't pay much attention to TMNT not a Teenage Mutant Ninja Tales fan I'm afraid I know Jared was I'd be interested to see his reviews of them maybe I'm predicting that Wanda goes insane from the Tism magic and is the antagonist for Doctor Strange 2 possible I I don't know I'm not getting that impression from the the show but you know they did that I think it would help that film actually if they made her the full on villain but I don't think they're going to do that I think they're going to withdraw and be like no you were in the right I want them to I just don't think they're ever gonna I want them to I don't think they will I would say well maybe like someone high up maybe like one producer wants them to but then the rest of them do not go with it and it's just gonna be a big cluttered mess kind of like Wanda vision yay just what we want everyone I can play hmm I missed 128 live but if you hadn't haven't played Titanfall 2 you should give it a try it's a blast and still has a decent player base also high rags hey I've only heard good things about timefall 2 never a bad word see that's a pretty good word I just heard is this what I need my laser watch for oh I get it oh oh was I supposed to sever the green not the red that's probably what that was my bad I thought it was just wires I didn't realize like the green and red matters I just come get me mother fuckers I'm hell I'm holed up in a room these AI won't be able to stop me you need voices I don't see where they come from though oh you know I'll just wait here does the alarm go forever oh I don't know talk about that disnoid article that attempts to link you geeks and gamers EVS etc to the alt right and trumps insurrection I don't know what to say about it other than it's fucking crazy the clip they showed from me was when I said track didn't have the decency to die which is a joke I guess it's getting linked like you see they encourage hatred for Kelly Marie Tran I don't have any problem with Kelly Marie Tran's rose that sucks is a part of what ruined TLJ so yeah I don't know whatever makes it work for you guys to make us look like the worst humans ever they send people down Saruman was an evil villain they never said that we were encouraging Christopher Lee to kill himself or whatever no I wouldn't fit the agenda Ram's what would be the point God what's that guy doing this show sucked if I knew if I knew how to make youtube videos you can bet my hat would be in the long man ring with the review love y'all screw Wanda vision this is the thing I wouldn't be surprised that a lot of people were made very angry by Wanda vision got a good old fashioned problem it's not just badly written it's disrespect fully written too and infuriatingly on a moral level I guess the writer's feel she was punished effectively or at least held accountable yeah I suppose it's that level of incompetence can we please have something good again invite the almighty lolly for muscle moms and tomboy's I have no idea who that is I think someone's asked for that before I think I made the video comparing the last first part to spec ups the line actually that's the one video I've seen from him he's made a couple of videos I haven't seen much from his channel though was that one good this is okay I wasn't a fan of like his structure and he didn't have like the best arguments but like his points are pretty solid and he did have good evidence hello all and rags hi can't wait for efat movies justice league and sniders justice league also you guys watched the extended version of suicide squad I think we did yeah I've watched it though I don't know what the difference between the theatrical and extended is to be honest with you I've watched it before it's a joke or flashback scene was not in the lamborghini one that was not even so there you go there's more dialogue and a couple more Joker scenes basically there's nothing too significant change just a couple of scenes added yeah yeah all of them are to come be excited I super chat about trackball might yesterday You just roll it with your fingers instead of moving the whole mouse also high rack. I got you Oh, I thought you were talking about you know, the old same. Yeah back in the olden day You'd have the ball at the bottom and you'd have to take it out and clean it Get all the grime and stuff off of it. So you could oh, I remember him a Lot of people in our audience will not know what the yeah, so for those of you who don't know back in the first mice had an actual sphere and It would use the sphere that's connected to the bottom of the mouse Part of it was exposed on the bottom and that's what you'd use it with a physical sphere would roll around and That's how your mouse would know where to go. Yeah Back in the girl base. It was fucking nightmarish. Yep Yeah, wait, I don't know about why we say hanging up the phone and rolling up the window Oh, they'll be their minds will be blown You know, I had a mouse that had lost the little Compartment thing that kept the ball in place. So I had to have it perfectly on The the desk at all times because if I even picked it up once the ball would go rolling across the room. It was Night night, yeah Mine would get all dusty did like stick it wouldn't like roll consistently. That was the problem with them as they just it didn't last Then we evolved into the digital aim I What do you think about agents of shield and where it falls in the MCU timeline? I Have not watched it and don't care about it. I've not seen it. Yeah, I don't have any Maybe I saw season. I've got no idea how it holds up You said you saw season one. Oh, yeah, I saw season one a while ago It's it was it's been so many years though. I wasn't the biggest fan But I don't know how well it holds up like on a writing level Yeah, I mean season one was pretty weak mostly and then it started getting better I think Hydra really helped it because they were forced to go in new directions And then it kind of started a trend where they would consistently shake up the status quo Throughout so that was that's the fucking about it is I've heard it actually does get better as it goes along It's just it's it made like people say it's like those first few seasons are weak and then it gets good I'm like, oh, okay Maybe it's worth another shot. Yeah Well, even season two is a significant upgrade because they're you know shield is collapsed So they're kind of an underground thing on the run kind of thing Pretty cool So it's a drags talk about dial up. Oh y'all ain't ready for y'all fucking ready for dial up internet When you couldn't use the phone in your house Because the phone line was being used to connect to the internet at a snails pace But it was what there was Dial up is boy That was I got a little taste of that earlier with the static right in mind. Yeah, I mean dial up wasn't that bad Kick rags came true. I mean temporarily just so we could deal with whoever was hacking him Yeah, I had to zap the hackers Bad dog rags or hack bad dog also high rags smug Ross Hello members smug Ross means Fine they should have said that in Wanda vision that joke was true We're just saved it When I saw a dark hold in Wanda vision episode nine I was confused because didn't go stride to take it away and agents of shield season four. Oh, I Oh, I don't know. I don't at this point that I wonder if agents of shield is cannon or not. I don't know Can and right back I think it's cannon But it's not like supposed to directly tie in too well like I at least from what I know like none of the films rely on agents of Shield where it's like wait a minute. This doesn't make sense. Like oh, you got to watch agents of shield It's like the ultimate test will be is when they want to make a ghost rider for the MCU And if they decide fuck it, we're gonna ignore agents of shield Interesting, I've heard he's genuinely good They might cast like the same actor but not address anything that happens in the show, but yeah, who knows Yeah, like and the thing is the visual effects were actually quite good And because it was on the ABC that meant he was like on screen in his full ghost rider mode for like one minute every two episodes But look good when he was there I guess So you you check that out. Did you because you said you didn't watch the show, but you Looked into that as you or oh Well, I've watched all of agents of shield. I just I don't know how it holds up if that makes sense Because it's like I've watched it over time So I need to like actually go back and see if it all lines up But I enjoyed all the characters and all the storylines and they went in kooky directions and filled in plot holes from the movies Occasionally it was was a fun. I Was a mistake. I flashed myself But the guy died and that's what matters. All right. Yeah, that's true Very good at this like I said Have a grapple Also, am I supposed to do the green one? I did search lights deactivate a and I unlocked something. I'm so good This is a walkthrough by the way games bonfire Any of you guys are wondering how to do it here is here at how is bit be do is done it so, yeah Out of context Wonder Woman That's which I ends with them saying I have more to add that can't fit in a super chat if it relates to um How much they've fucked with like the timeline that is agents of shield? I'm sure there's lots. I just I don't know um I'd be any of it myself Because I didn't watch it I Propose a new show e-fap after dark where instead of normal movies you watch porn parodies and judge their writing it'll be hilarious So I don't think there's gonna be enough time for that with what over the stuff we're covering every time we cover one of those It'd be like why aren't we covering an actual movie? I'm instead of a porn. Secondly It would be strange. It'll probably be a strange experience. I don't know how it would go You know complicated one. I wonder if there are like Channels on YouTube where the idea is that they review porn parodies, but like seriously like breaking them down logically plot-wise Feel that would be a funny niche to fill How can you even review that though? You couldn't like show any of the content so I'd have to just all be discussion I suppose yeah, you can show screen shots Oh The cinema stop still do that or is he uh, I think he uploads uncensored versions on the porn hub As well as uploading to YouTube because he used to review stuff naked, right? I Think he did it once or twice. I haven't watched him recently, but I assume he's still going I don't have any reason to believe he has he's not I'm going check. I'm curious now. Yes Now that's why I avoided the show and Mando not counting e-fap reactions Let's make a show starring familiar characters and show has no clear goal Yeah, he's still going Good as for Making a show with no clear goal. I feel like we wouldn't be able to know that until we actually watch it though Like because it can go in so many directions and I you know Wanda vision as a show it could have worked Oh, yeah, plenty they had to work with they just fucked it all up It's why it cuts a deep for me because um, I could have been a really interesting, you know show about mental health grief you know why how like PTSD and stuff and you know these Things can drive good people to do terrible things and have these nuanced Perspective and no it's just like you were allowed to enslave people because you were sad That's and expand more on Wanda too man Like follow what happened after endgame like there's so much to work with in terms of like how she was feeling what she's been doing But just none of that is explored. Well, so Such a shame Why does everyone have to poo poo the bed Morley why help us please own high rags love from Slovak Yeah, I'm sorry about the poo poo people. I I do try to stop them, but There's so much power I have Hopefully you guys managed to make it through I guess The ending was so strange Monica just lets one to go like what the fuck a lot of people lost relatives and didn't enslave others for Months hashtag locker up. Yeah No, nobody knows how to answer this. It's just like it's just something that happens The writers think that they did a good enough job, and I guess it'll be up to Doctor Strange 2 first to see I Guess the vents moving forward. I don't know Good check is writing that I'm curious because we know Sam Raimi's directing. I Assume he's gonna have a lot of control over the story, but yeah In the Justice League animated episode legends Green Lantern flash and Hawk girl are put into a similar situation Where a psychic was using their powers to recreate the world as what it used to be there enough I Assume it was less horrifying to watch in terms of seeing people do crazy shit Yeah, and I think that was a parallel universe as well So it was like it wasn't the Justice League causing it. It was very much just um this traumatized kid I'm trying to just keep things the way they'd always been Mr. Freeze made a he made a like an alliance of like cold themed supervillains Wait, oh, like yeah, it was called the Justice League. Oh RLM joking What just ice league mr. Freeze? No, that's from Robin. No, I don't maybe I know that I only vision. I appreciate the whole justice and just ice is I Don't know it maybe they used it. I can't remember the episode where they have the big block of ice It's the Justice League episode it's like I don't know if you know really I haven't seen their justice Is it a half in the bag? Oh, yeah, yeah, it's oh, I haven't seen their justice league I haven't seen that half in the bag He's a rich I was delivering I can ice to the carve into something. That's the narrative to get him to talk about it They rely on I can see how you both come up with it because justice just ice Like I could I probably came like as a like a kid driving by or being driven by one of those ice stands Or you can just buy bagged ice and or something like that And yeah, I could see how a lot of people would come up with just ice instead of justice So as for Dr. Strange, it's got two screenwriters one of them did the segue these these ones Yeah, and the other one is someone called Jade Barlet who doesn't even have a Wikipedia page, so I'm gonna And she is written Fuck all Yeah, she's been an actress in two things and has this is her first movie. This is her first writing credit. I Yeah, we're gonna have to see how that goes. I do not know what to expect in terms of writing quality Which I have to hope that's where we're at with the absolute This is why you don't write reality benders into television such film They can't fully explain the limits of your power without it coming across as Mary Sue. I Wouldn't go that far The problem you stop at reality bending you're like, okay, how much can they do and does it exhaust them? Do they like if they can change the whole universe at will without much You know struggle Then I guess the only interesting thing left would be their motivations Like a like a villainous character, but they don't want to kill people they want to change something And so, you know drama can still come out of it. I think that would be worthwhile But yeah, if you this is what we were highlighting with wonder you can't have it be this powerful and also be like an Avenger Because there isn't any fight she can lose You have to give her some sort of incredible negative Like a randomization of her powers or something that kind of keeps her Unpredictable give yourself some tool that you can you can That that will help you write her out of you know Situations where she just dominates something gotta do something Try to balance things out like you're making a video game. Yeah Yeah, you know, I don't have a problem with powerful characters inherently It's just a lot of retarded writers forget that you've got to like balance the scales in order to Probably establish the stakes and all that Shizer And they just don't know how to do it the rest of the time. Mm-hmm. I hate the way the soul director turned into a bad guy Really lame In the Justice League animated episode oh wait You never know how much Stalin sacrificed for defeating Hitler Yeah, Monica would probably say that You think the show would have been better if it was in Wanda's head or she didn't know what she was doing just curious And you guys have thoughts um I Think if the spell was cast in such a way or rather whatever the fuck it is But it affected her too and that when she finally realized what she'd done She undoes it and then she has to live with the fact that this is something she did because of a grief sort of thing And would feel responsible. I don't know how I would deal with that narratively. I almost want her to submit herself to like Proper like human punishment and like the justice system rather than I'm gonna leave now because I want to do my own shit Something about that that really bothers me I would have had that done either way like if she'd been unaware or in the show that we got like I think if that would Have been a much more satisfying any for her character is that she turns yourself in willingly and like has to try to make up for what she's done Yeah, then you have it so that they need to and they bring her out of prison because they're like we need to help and she's like, okay Make up for what she's done that that could work really well, but but no Imagine a season two and like a psychiatric ward for super humans that could be nifty But we're never gonna get that You mean we got it in the new mutants All right. Yeah, that was a great movie. I heard everyone loved it. I Love that watch it in theaters, baby Character in my book boys of C. Lo loses his family and almost kills himself since he's not a monster He doesn't put his pain on everyone else though again, I feel like that's a Standard bare minimum thing that we don't typically celebrate stuff for because it's just like oh you didn't do this horrible thing good job But if you do you have to have the appropriate consequences. We're all on board with that Wanda vision didn't want to do that though Did Darcy watch infinity war to find out the exact details of visions death especially since Wanda the witness got snapped so What is said is that apparently they're all visions memory is being unblocked because they were put behind some kind of wall Presumably by Hayward that that is what I think we're supposed to think I don't know why vision has the power to remove that firewall Well, whatever's going on in that head of his Especially because the vision that was created by Wanda Like does she know how to make him that capable or is that just for the magic? I don't know the way. I don't think I think he's literally like one-to-one Cades the exact same power level as the vision we always knew and so when she disabled the the dome He died with it, but when he was in the dome, he was just as powerful and Capable as that vision and she's like wow You can give that power to things you create Wow This comparison I can think is like so the green lantern ring right can technically create anything But you've actually got to have like a very intimate knowledge of what you're creating in order to actually Recreate it and you actually a lot of it is knowledge-based and That's on top of actually being able to use the ring in the first place Which is apparently it hurts every single time you use it because you really got a force your will power Through it. So there's a lot of concrete limitations there, which Wanda does not have So someone's like turning yourself in wouldn't work because when she gets bored She'll just escape like the whole point is that she will keep herself there because she knows what she did was fucked up Yeah, she's there willingly like it's like they wouldn't like force her to stay inside of it She would she would be there on her own choice And if she can like dissolve and re-apparate that book I don't mind how her pulling out that book and reading it in prison It actually gives you a reason for how she would be better controlling her powers by the time she gets out Mm-hmm You know, there's lots of ways you can improve it. They did an awful job What are you gonna do? One division is an allegory for the successor Ideologist a person Leverages their trauma into taking other people's minds captive and never faces any consequences or much in the way of self-reflection I mean, that's pretty much what happens if that's a description of Successor ideologist then sure Hmm gonna let these people live don't kill me neat Wait, oh that why did they award me for that with a thing while they're shooting at me That's not fun. All right. Anyway, I guess you're just kill them They just expected you to kill them rather than I thought I thought I was gonna go past them or Get like a cross without them realizing we're just like no yet to kill him first like right, okay I probably should have fine fine look like you're gonna connect to the other building, but then you just dropped It's like wow, it's like you did it. It's like thanks. Now you die. You're like, oh Thanks for EFAT make work much better also high rags Hello Read Mason Dremur 2 on Amazon. It features a mage with a more complex psyche than Wanda guaranteed and a magic system with actual rules Darfite. Holy fuck what a concept. Oh my goodness gracious proud Wicker man 2006 refat movies island number one. I mean, yeah, maybe one day Did Darcy? Oh Wait, why would it mean the Darcy watched in oh, right? So how does Darcy know about the events of infinity wall? I think you could probably answer that with Everybody would have yeast together what happened Who is still alive and then spread that story to the public that's probably how she knew sorry Though Would anyone know that Wanda killed him and then the time rewound and then banners killed him I don't think anyone witnessed that right No and Wanda got snapped away. So yeah, she wouldn't be able to tell people I Suppose the logic is Wanda would have told people in the small amount of time between her coming back and Darcy telling vision that The other Avengers could have seen that also, right? I mean they were trying to keep that If wonder is the big phase for big bad at least for Dr. Strange and Monica is the bad guy and Captain Marvel things a bit make a bit More sense. I don't think that's gonna happen Captain Marvel being the villain of the overarching series could melt things man Captain Marvel leading her to right-hand man, if you will Wanda and Monica to like Take people's minds and make them better quote-unquote or some shit. Just like they go. Dr. Strange defeat them all Be satisfying dude to have them be the powerful villains and the heroes to outsmart them somehow It's like they fight with their brains are than they're brawn But instead we've got them on the hero side now, so it's like what the hell is gonna make this balanced Nothing that's what I got the multiverse joke, but I want to give it back I Just it's funny because they've played with it It's technically a fake out here, and then it was something that was mentioned But it wasn't actually the case in off from home, but they're totally doing it, right? They're just almost toying with the idea of not doing it, but then they're actually gonna do it I Feel like they're kind of dancing around the issue before they're finally gonna commit to it I I don't know how Spider-Man 3 isn't going to do that with all the actors who are gonna be inside of it Like this this has to be a multiverse movie, right? Yeah, I would think Doctor Strange 2 is probably gonna be great introduces, right? Yeah, this is madness. I mean Well Sam Remy's directing so maybe Toby McGuire will appear there first. Whoa How exciting I hope we don't get a moment where he just turns up and says hello and everyone's like that part was so amazing the film's kind of amazing Oh, you mean like a certain big fake Let's put it this way. Hopefully Toby McGuire will have his green web slinging lasers Don't make it all Who sacrificed more Wanda or Norman Osborn? Do you know how much I sacrificed? It was clearly Norman. I'm even close That man Kind of want a deep fake Elizabeth Olson's face onto green goblin now Because I'm a monster People like you should be stopped Can't be having that Look too much power the show could have been the MCU's Legion. I have not seen the Legion Or by yet, I've heard it is very interesting and very good. Hmm. I've watched the first season still need to watch the rest of it It's it's it's got all that mind-bending Stuff but very psychological It was it was my kind of thing definitely What way further with it than Wanda vision did and as far as I recall it doesn't fuck reality too much because it's mostly like Oh, these are visions within your head rather than actual manipulation of reality Yo, I gotta go find a guy with a key for this thing Ridiculous Hello all my massives great cast. Thanks for watching. So I don't have to totally uninterested in Marvel post-end game Oh and high rags Hey I can understand that yeah friendly reminder the captain Marvel promised Monica's mom She would return but Maria died before that one division make captain Marvel more unlikable We don't know no, she would have seen and she did come back to earth. Oh, yeah When did she come back though? I guess that's the question Shortly after it or like wasn't it like two weeks after the events in the city? Which means Monica would be alive Oh, yeah, yeah, they probably spoke to each other and we're like man this situation sucks, huh? Been there on a death bed, I guess Very loose Oh, dude the remote control rockets. That's top tier James Bond We're probably in them from being guided. Yeah, there we go. Oh I gotta do some hacking. I mean I am Accessing the mainframe. I got a laser. Oh, I did ah, oh no This is a satisfying game, all right got him Got to episode six and can be bothered to go further shame about the wasted potential high meme great work on MOS and BVS vids high rags Hello, thank you Shame indeed. Yeah, I'm not sure which if I wasn't invested in seeing it for the overall story like as a show I probably would have dropped out with them Probably the clown episode. That's where I was really like Fucked up But I did want to see how it ended Yeah, well, that's just the thing if it wasn't MCU I probably would have just found something else to watch but you know Keep up with the old dialogue. Mm-hmm Halloween episode Agatha gets rid of vision but doesn't do anything Ralph sort of talked or ran Wanda into basement She gets Wanda vision dies big W She gets Wanda vision die, so Agatha gets rid of vision, but doesn't do anything That's in like doesn't do anything to Do him Again, I can't figure out what she was doing in the Halloween episode. I don't know if she was like Distracting vision then I don't know for what purpose So yeah, I really I don't want to say about her being there at that time other than she was just messing around lol How the fuck did you survive that? Good for you, but still Somebody made you a goomba That just the face on a goomba? Apparently I just saw it in the discord very well. I am now a goomba There it is more a referenced Buffy again. Okay, you got me sometimes. I'm subtle with them though You don't even know their references. That's what I've been doing lately. I'll like talk about a potential storyline. That's good Mmm, and then people can be like wait a minute. Was that something you just made up or was that something he's actually referencing? I Already did it in the past 10 minutes relating to someone else, but I'm gonna say what it was and it was Buffy again I'm so naughty One day I'm gonna watch Buffy and I'm gonna get all those references. You're gonna make a video saying it's bad And I'm gonna be like, you know what? Not friends I Just do I'll do that and I'll like posted in between like the hours of March 31st and April 1st just to really blur the line Yes Friendship ended with meme repository. That's the meme rate. I can't remember how the rest of it goes Something like that It's nothing pretty good way to sum up Wanda vision It's nothing. I don't know about it's nothing. I Good elements, it's just nothing. Well, I was gonna say like there's lots of things I hate in it that have been added that I don't want to be added. Yeah, it doesn't make the MCU better Yeah, no, so it's a better way to put it Like with Captain Marvel Yeah, like with Captain Marvel it was almost like There was not like how that story was presented. There wasn't really much there that was like wasted It was just really bad. Well with one division. There was a lot that could have been done really fucking well, and it just wasn't Where is hella corp door? Oh Hey, this is cool This is a cool mission. Oh Doing the ration clanking where you can shoot the missile and drive it. I didn't that didn't look like I that looked like I went Through the maybe hit the glass pane Oh, I guess the thing has no windows. Well, no, I shot through them already. So I'm confused now It mimicked TV throughout history once it got to modern times it went to absolute crap Some galaxy brain would say the slow transition to modern day just shows how much better We have gotten at shows because expectations were subverted Um, I mean if you're gonna make the claim that shows from the 50s and 60s are better than like the best content We have right now. That's ridiculous, but I think they're being sarcastic. Yeah, maybe well the undercourt was saying sexist All right. Yeah, maybe I don't yeah, I'm not entirely sure what was being made legitimately though like Yeah, the best of TV now was better than the best of TV back then for sure Like breaking bad. Come on Oh, yeah Romanian TV casually mentioned more just now Okay Alrighty then. Yeah, are you doing a big suck there for me? Yeah, it is a big suck. I'm sucking the The juices out of this little cup the delicious juice I Just going to put its runes on you and stop being up the drink. Oh, I guess we'll never know Something will once would say well Just but yeah, but the problem is like just because he says it doesn't mean that it's mean is wrong Yeah, he could still and of course he could say the same thing and be for the wrong reasons All I'm trying to say is I think I'm I think that TV shows from like the 90s onwards probably even starting with like the Simpsons were starting to be a little more like You know like it's not everything is awesome because that's kind of what TV almost was was like everything's happy and nice And the drama is like there's there, but then it gets resolved really nicely and starting with the senses It's like no, maybe maybe everything's not awesome And then you know by the turn of the century we started having shows like buffy sopranos the wire Big old stories that really take advantage of the format to tell big long Stories with multiple characters growing You just want you depressing shit watch Bojack Horseman you got me Can't probably hey aiming with twin sticks on GameCube It's like the worst for an FPS. Oh Just scan left right left right left right going just too far. It's just like oh No way missus sometimes It's like I think you got to be within a certain amount Okay Bands of the show a layman FB Facebook friend called me sexist for saying Thanos was a better villain than Agatha Four days after But I mean damn act there's not even a villain though She's like the troll under the bridge she's just kind of like they're throwing rocks She's like maintaining the bridge and keeping it, you know, she has an investment in the bridge Then up to code. Yeah, the economy of the people who live under the bridge was important to her Want to make sure it was okay Portal opens e-fap. Listen to me now. It's Wanda. She's the key. Am I too soon? You were right about Fear him and find us e-fap. Well Don't know if that might have been too early. Yeah, I can't wait for this curious How they're going to twist that flash dialogue in Snyder cut Well with that extra reshot footage that wasn't part of his original vision. Yeah Well, I was was shooting completed when as far as he was concerned or no Well, I think he stepped out of the project in like March or April and I'm pretty sure that film was shot in 2016 So let me actually, you know what let's take a look see and see what I think I think it was like a case of He was like he got the original portion of shooting done, but the necessary reshoots He was not able to come back for so Warner Brothers took that to means. Oh, we can reshoot the entire movie Okay, so this is this is the Wikipedia Wikipedia Fringy Principal photography began in April 11th 2016. So And then it was revealed that Jeff Johns and John Berg would produce the Justice League films of me in charge of the DC extended universe After the largely negative critical reception of Batman v Superman the same month I instead of the Justice League would be more linear and simple. Oh, so like a month into filming They were like, oh, we're gonna have to change Yeah So yeah, then it says Justice League had a troubled production during filming It was reported that rewrites by Jeff Johns caused issues with Chris Terrio and Warner Brothers executives Warner Brothers was unsatisfied with how the film was shared being up undecided because of the negative feedback that theatrical version Batman v Superman Was received it was reported that Warner Brothers held a footage summit for writers that included Joss Whedon Wonder Woman writer Alan Heinberg Seth Graham Smith and Andrea Burloff this caused numerous rewrites as Justice League was filming Whedon was eventually hired by Warner Brothers He then took over As a director of the film after Snyder stepped down during post-production. So filming wrapped in 2016 and Snyder stepped down in 2017 in May 2017 So that was the reshoots came. Oh my god the reshoots The reshoots started in July and the movie came out in November. Oh god that explains Yeah, it explains why the CGI looks so unfinished. It's like, hey, you got like a three-month turnaround Oh, yeah, do you know the reason they didn't delay the film? I don't know. Um, no, I don't It was because the Warner Brothers executives would not have gotten their bonuses that year if they didn't release So Say that one more time, I don't think I caught that so Warner Brothers executives They wouldn't have gotten their bonuses that year if Justice League did not release by November Stipulation it is I'm glad they got their bonuses. Yeah, you think it would be about the quality and the reception Like is it out on time? Yeah, I think I'll you were Yeah, I think it's kind of fascinating to just think about like all I There's so many things that conspired to make that film a disaster the fact that it was Film written and directed by Zack Snyder for starters but then also the fact that you have another director come in and He didn't have any time to do any reshoots and it descriptive Rewritten by like five people and it had to come out by November and it had to be less than two hours Like that film was destined to be awful Yeah, like I don't even blame Jeff Johns necessarily as far as the writing is concerned because he was basically brought in and went Hey, you know this film. That's already in production. We want you to do rewrites for it as we're filming it So it's basically like laying down track to a train that is already like off the rails by Certain a certain degree so you're just trying your best to get it to the station, but it's like Tumbling and well moving out of control So you'd be the best conductor in the world and it still wouldn't matter I think what's interesting is that everybody wants to blame different people like I've seen a lot of people saying Wonder Woman 1984 That's Jeff Johns. He sucks. That's Jeff John's fault It's like I thought Patty Jenkins was given like all the freedom. She wanted to make that film and either way They're all accountable because they're all involved in it Like Joss Whedon is accountable for Justice League It's just like I'm not sure how accountable he is considering how much how little time he had You know what I mean? Yeah, he got to make a Justice League movie from the start. It probably would have been pretty good Yeah Well, I defend Jeff John's a little bit because I just like his writing like he he's the one who made Green Lantern my favorite hero So it's like ooh, I got to at least, you know Take into account the surrounding context because I don't this did not read like a Jeff John's thing There's I mean, I know he wrote flashpoint which I'm pretty sure flashpoints really stupid like I read it But I don't remember much about it There's a lot of this. Yeah, there's a lot of stupid time travel and yeah, no stupid in it though I think I think that one was like another mandate like I think that was just meant to be a flash story That was like rejiggered into a universe Reboot yeah, yeah, yeah, I um, I It's just I don't know like I saw somebody in chat saying um Like maybe no director can do a good DC film. It's like nah, I feel like it's good like nah Well, I hate that could be great. Okay, anything could be great. Well Joker isn't part of the DC. Oh Sorry, I said Well, that's arbitrary like if you know, what if the DC you began with Joker we would now have a good DC EU movie I Guess it's the idea of if you need to make a story that fits into this universe. It's gonna be a lot harder just because of how broken it is Yeah, you have to account for which I would never want like Atlanteans and Amazons are getting some serious rewrites. Oh Yeah, definitely I remember I someone once unironically said to me Well because Marvel the Marvel heroes have done so well and DC has never managed to do much successfully outside of Batman That must mean that all the DC heroes are inherently Too bad to stupid. Yeah, and I'm just like no, it's just because it's fucking it's just It's just because I've been given to incompetent people with ridiculous mandates for how it needs to be done It's and also let's not forget that like a lot of Marvel movies suck, too Yeah In terms in terms of what I got to imagine like we talked about this very very recently But like Green Lantern is an awesome idea for a superhero You would have to be able to make some great movies with with Green Lantern for sure And of course Batman I feel like a Wonder Woman could work because anything and you can make good Superman stories the more I think the craziest thing about the DC you are because it's made me appreciate Superman more like a good Superman by seeing how Yeah, with how awful it gets it's like man, I would really like an optimistic hopeful Superman film I feel like that would be so worth nowadays Yeah, I actually wrote my like an outline for how I would do like a Superman origin after Man of Steel Because it was just like I need to at least have a vision of something good Yeah, I think my movies just dower and depressing You just don't want to live in this world Whereas you see the Guardians of the Galaxy or something like that and you want to go there and do it And it looks fun and interesting and crazy Really weird though considering that a lot of DC's main heroes have an inherently optimistic turn like Superman I mean Green Lantern the power is from hope and will power Like it's so optimistic as a concept and Superman like Batman's a bit more like You know if he but that that's fine cuz Batman Justice and he's still a good guy That's pretty yeah, yeah, he's a little edgier, but like he's he's a guy and he's yeah, he's a good person Yeah, like yeah, but like with Batman. It's like the imagery is dark But the person underneath is like really like he's like one of the most empathetic individuals you would ever meet if yeah And I was Who could be like every swing? And I gotta tell you one of my biggest things that frustrates me about the way that people I've seen people say like oh You know Marvel is about like heroes who are normal and have normal problems DC's about gods It's like no you invented that in your head. No, you're I'm sorry. It can be anything that any of them want to be God Yeah, I mean that it doesn't apply to Batman really doesn't and like Superman isn't meant to be God That's not like that's never that's a new thing. That's like a very modern thing that people have decided Superman's God when the whole point is he's a normal person. He's more human than Kryptonian Yeah, I guess Wonder Woman Wonder Woman isn't really you know, I like green like the demigod thing Aquaman's King he's not God Cyborg and then he starts off regular as he's in God Barry Allen's like a normal dude He's like a normal, you know, he's the classic speedster. Ah, you know, I can never catch a break I'm always too late for somebody who's running so fast if you're faster than late. It means you're always living in the dirt Apparently he is intentionally late to a lot of things in his personal life to maintain his secret identity And I it was a funny it was a funny line related to that where he was just like, you know It works, but I haven't seen the beginning of a movie in like five years Yeah, like in my like the what version I wrote I made it so he doesn't Superman doesn't actually get his powers until he's like 18 or something so that we could actually focus on how does he become? Moral without his powers and then the powers become an extension of those abilities and You can kind of play with you know, what is a you know, how do different people use like their power for good and evil? Is it a lot of things you can do but you can do a lot depending on when he gets his powers for sure You could push it earlier or you could push it back and then be different things to explore like Superman can That's that's what a main man DCE you are teaching me new things mainly that Superman is not actually that crappy at all Like you can do stuff that's really good. It's just We have nobody is I don't know nobody is happiness Yeah, I think a lot of people overthink him like they just look at the powers and they go Oh, well, he must be like a God and they don't think you know, they don't bother to think well You know, he's just a humble guy who happens to be really really strong And they also like they piss me off with Justice League right as they make him just they just get him to kick The shit out of Steppenwolf, right? And they did not have to make him that powerful He could have like Steppenwolf could have been a like maybe a little bit stronger than Superman and Actually, I'm pretty sure like a lot of comic iterations like most of the Justice League can at least like they might not be able to beat him One-on-one, but they can at least stand a chance to to spar with him for a little bit Like Aquaman can still give him a few like good hits Wonder Woman can still do him while in that fight It's just like everyone is just getting dominated and it's just like you know The reason they don't usually make him like at least decent writers don't make him that fucking strong is because you need to balance him in a Larger setting like he can be a jack-of-all-trades, but master of none kind of I'm absolutely Weakening him if I were riding Superman. I'm making him weaker than he is Yeah, I would give him like spider-man level endurance in terms of being able to take hits He can fly and stuff and he can punch hard, but like he can blunt force is gonna hurt him He can be cut like that's what I'd be doing. I'd be making him a decent amount weaker. I remember Superman animated series something the interesting is that they made it a really big point to show that Bullets like really big bullets were bouncing off of him But they were still hurting him and you could shoot a missile at him And he would actually go flying and you would see he actually starts getting injured after a while I thought that was quite That showed that they really understood that you need to be able to have a big enough force Now you need to have like a relatively small force still be able to hurt him rather than Yeah, you know just thinking everything All right, then Yeah I can't wait for Miss Marvel to kidnap random kids and put them into illegal prison camps and only later realize She might be in the wrong Miss Marvel probably be a lot more chill. I would imagine as a thing. Maybe who does all bets are off Yeah, right God, I'd never bet on what happens next in the MCU Hmm My favorite bit about Agatha is in the finale. She wants to wander to hit her but in the routine She's dodging Wanda's attacks Agatha big brain Well, why is she even allowing the blobs to go anywhere instead of sucking them back on them blobs? I think it should be the mission, you know Honestly, why would she even tell Wanda that if she like throws the blobs then she's gonna suck them like you could just be like The runes aren't out here and then Agatha's like I'm counting on it Han. It's like whoa Did you say that? Why does Agatha keep telling her what she wants? Like one of the classic things people make fun of now I'm a logging villain like we made fun of this instead of the Incredibles It's the whole idea of just like the the villain saying stuff to the hero and the hero wins because of it. It's cheap it's old And bring a euro you you've written some stuff, right? Oh I've tried to yeah Yeah, tell me when you when something really bad comes out Do you go back to your writing because I do this with my stuff But do you go back to your writing and just make sure that you haven't accidentally Is our authors discuss their craft I Am a feeble video gamer. I simply listen. I am a mirror I'm a mongoloid button masher. I don't understand these two question was basically just like if you see something really bad in a film Do you like reconsider what you've been working on? Yeah, like just go over to make sure you haven't like done something horrendous out of like just force of habit or something I Tend to see the thing is is um, I feel like I'm more likely to avoid the weird morality thing because it's usually like a lot of The time I'm thinking what can you pull from this like about if I've got a plot thread I'm like I don't want people to be able to pull from this something that I find like really bad So like if you think about a potential confrontation or something Then you you know you sit there and be like what kind of you know Is this meant to be like an anti hero? Is this meant to be like a hero or a villain and in general plot holes and stuff like that It's just something you're trying to be vigilant for all the time like almost to an autistic degree like um Like I tend to be thinking about certain things that are probably not even that important But it's just like well it might be important like um, I think it's I think it's yeah I think if you see something because you know just because you can identify Plot holes doesn't mean that you are not susceptible to writing them because I think there is a big difference between And it's not that I think one is easier than the other But I think there's a big difference between seeing something that's flawed And then making tweaks and modifications to make it better and starting from scratch um, I Think that there is a bit of a difference Yeah, definitely Yeah, and I think also you know you're on autopilot for that first draft for a lot of it Yeah, you might be able to catch a lot of it But then you kind of have to get distance from it in order to have that perspective where you can become the critic to your own work Yeah, I think that's what the drafting process is for there will be things that you'll miss and things We'd be like wow that's like a huge problem. I need to tighten that up And I think I think when it's like writing a book a lot of the smaller stuff creeps in just By the process of you might add something in without thinking and be like oh, that's cool And then it might cause a problem like in terms of bigger broader issues I think uh getting those sorted out early like in a plot outline or something It's just helpful Yeah, I would I would like to think that if you will buy like the third or fourth or fifth draft or something That you should only be making minor tweaks at this point like if you have to make significant changes That'd be like mmm. I don't know Yeah It's hard it is I'm just drinking all right Big suck yep, well the big suck is over all right. It's it's dead Is dead bring it just finish Daredevil tell them how much better it is in detail, please like Daredevil season 3 is top tier MCU So like the problem is it's for kind of funny because like I imagine if I rewatched Daredevil now There's probably got to be a lot of things that I'm that I find problems with but I just think that fundamentally Daredevil's got a really strong foundation a lot of great scenes. There was that scene where Matt speaking to the The pastor of his church and they're talking about the nature of evil and I think the pastor is talking about you know In that man like I saw the devil and and Matt's like, you know, if you could kill him if you could stop him Would you do it at what cost and it's like, yeah, that's kind of one of them fundamental things in Daredevil And it's kind of throughout the whole show It's um, I think Daredevil was really strong as a character in case that wasn't obvious just a general I think it's a fundamentally great idea for a superhero But yeah, Daredevil Better than better than one division by a country mile easily A lot of things are there Yeah, a wonder our hero hell DCEU Superman is more of a hero. Absolutely. He's head and shoulders above it Because DCEU Superman Yeah, that's his big fuck-up is that he does it really incompetently Wada was just straight up like well, you guys will be happy trust me I can the Hockness did nothing wrong except killing Sparky that was messed up and weird. Don't even know Sparky was real I'm real or not. Yeah And if that's true, man Like if we're talk if we're comparing the sins of people like killing a dog versus enslaving a village I'm like, I yeah, I don't think that the dog is too bad in the grand scheme of things Though I am anti-killing dog. I will say. Oh, yes. Don't kill dogs. That's me Kind of love it when Yeah, kind of love it when Wanda put up the runes Agatha could still fly Oh Maybe maybe wonder whatever Wanda was holding her up That's the thing it's so ridiculous about that. She's doing the big suck and then she's like I'm gonna kill you It's like what it's like. How could you be magicking and not know that you were being faked? You know, it's funny when you don't pay attention to a game I was like driving a car on like ice somewhere and now I'm like in In this place doing this. I'm just like sure Here's bombshot Who knows what's happening I certainly don't Was an escort mission, you know Does Wanda keep couples together or make a random make them? If so, do people do it in Westview is Wanda pulling a Wonder Woman high all also high raggle-daggle Hey there The thing is the more you find out in terms of details of what she did there the worst She'll look because right now we all kind of assume some stuff Um But like who knows how haunting it is in terms of like she's forcing people to eat food to make sure they don't perish, you know But the and they're desperately trying to kill themselves because they don't see any escape like we don't know how dark this goes unfortunate Hey Mola this whole series rips off a better written episode of Justice League animated series called Legends done way better. Look it up I that's the second mention of that Must have done something. I do really enjoy that one Uh v talking about news article right now Mola right wing plus I mean obviously People watch my content and they have obviously the people they don't come away thinking wow This is a really over-the-top way to look at movies instead. They go Hmm Hitler That's one way to look at it. What can you do? Oh, yeah, imagine someone like Just imagine someone having finished one of your videos and just like sitting there pondering like the Lenny pondering face for like ages and then one word comes out of their mouth Hitler All along I knew it. I want the spas. Give me Take people's guns in this. Oh, here we go. Gosh. I'm just killing so many people Like no no remorse, you know, I kind of feel like this is on theme Then again, these people are trying to kill me. So I'm clearly better than certain people from certain shows Oh Yeah, have we mentioned that cinematic benham has had a redemption arc of sorts? Yes on this stream Um, I didn't manage to speak to him at all. I obviously was uh I mean, yeah, I mean if if he's if he's nice and chill and talking about stuff and things, I hope it went well Yeah Perhaps he shall make it onto efaps. Who knows He tentatively agreed to uh, watch the lord of the rings with uh myself sapa and buzak So that could be very interesting. We want to see what his reaction is He said he hasn't he hadn't rewatched them in a long time. So it's like, you know what? That might be an interesting redemption arc And he said man this deal was bad. So he just couldn't my look Well, um from what I understand he watched the entire efap coverage of his video, right? I Mentioned it on stream I think he said the initial like tweet that he sent out was because he like only watched a little bit of it And we'll I'm referring to um his second of his newest one because I've actually seen it the uh Where he reviews his own video and he references like loads of what efaps said about the video as well So I was like, oh did he watch the whole thing and if he did I wonder if um, that would be helpful in terms of because we we argued a lot for like a lot of character arcs and uh How details matched up properly and different things? Don't know if it would have helped give any appreciation to the film, but I would hope so Lord the rings pretty neat. I'm gonna say it pretty good. Yeah, I agree Very neat indeed It's a hot take and I know I'm gonna get so many fucking comments about how insane I am but You know, I gotta stand up for your principle um Arrived very late to this efap, but I'm looking forward to Darcy catching me up on what I missed who? I don't think it was like a Darcy between every single uh every single efap and she tells you everything that happened with her voice Be horrible Like a tragic origin for her vocal chords Oh At this point just make wonder a villain and make good guys team up with an alternate reality nerfed wonder that has morals to take it down Imagine you were making like I don't know the next movie like let's just say it's Dr. Strange and you had full creative control and you actually argue That wonder like the real wonder is trapped in west view and that this is a fake wonder that's taken over Imagine we wouldn't actually make wonder a horrific villain. Yeah, imagine the face on the writer who wrote that season They'd be like excuse me and you're like you gave me no choice I got it under your damage somehow Also, it's like a construct and not a real person because no person could actually wield that much ridiculous power And everything that was said about all the unit. They just have a character be like Was so was any of that real in west view did any of it happen? He's like no Oh And then vision woke up it was all a horrible dream And then he realized he was dead there you go. We fixed all of it there Jello woman Yeah, she she became jello. She evolved into jello pretty Maybe a very useful superpower to have in future installments. I mean, I don't know how they're gonna make use of her jellowness, but We'll see I'm sure she'll get in situations where it's really useful that she's made of jelly Every time she gets punched she'll just turn into jello Jello woman Wiggle around when she gets punched like rubber like We'll just get scared they punch her she's wobbles. They're like, ew She like When she goes undercover she goes she tries she sneaks into like a party as the punch bowl ah Imagine like she gets shot so much. She starts leaking and she says my precious goo My goo that's a reference, right? So apparently cinematic venom uh loves buffy and angels so that is As I said on I don't know if it was freestream or somewhere else being a buffy fan Is step one. Okay, because it could mean that you have terrible takes about everything you could Yeah, and lots of buffy fans do. I'm sorry buffy fans out there. You're all cringe. Okay. I'm not though I'm the good one as is fringy as is Theo they there are such things as good fans and bad fans, right? So uh, it'll be curious to hear some of his takes, but I already anticipate like The one the one that's so common is the character begins with an r is not a character and a bad person I'm just like, uh Stop it put it down Yes, bring in I shall read Riviera Um, oh my god a secret tunnel The best super heroes are those with awesome superpowers yet her flaws that makes them relatable These new mcu ones sound flawless. They're for boring. Well, it's worse because she's Incredibly flawed, but doesn't know This is They're acting like she's morally righteous in this season. It's just like, what are you doing guys? Come on Yeah, I never know what you sacrificed I would have done the same thing to bring back my mom. I'd be like monica. No, you wouldn't Wouldn't okay No, you wouldn't I fucked up royale. I did something really bad. Don't encourage me Don't try and justify my horrific behavior you evil devil woman apart from me Spirit of malice Oh, we could do that. We read contextualizer She's mafesto trying to get wada to do it more that we actually bring mafesto in to make fans happy And then we can play with that because mafesto is probably pretty cool. The mafistos can fight and well He's basically satan. So yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool Um, so It's even worse than that because she doesn't even say I would do what you do She just says, oh, you know, if I had your power I would bring back my mom and that's supposed to justify the slavery of 3000 people that she would bring back one person I think It's monica trying to say that was what wander's goal was Unfortunately, some other stuff happened some weird stuff. And you know what? I still would have done what you did but that weird stuff that kind of sucks Like can you stop doing that by producing it? You've got to break a few children before you can make a family It makes sense. Okay. And if you don't understand might be bigoted Just saying I can't get down here. Hmm. Oh This is great like I have to go forward but when I connect onto the ladder it needs to go I need to hit back to go down it so Controls Maybe I'm just not allowed to go down because it's all smoky Or not. Oh, no, I am allowed to go down Oh, this is water That does not look like water Okay anyway, um I think the only power captain marvel had that made any sense at all was moving faster than light the tesseract is a space stone, right? Um, but the problem is moving faster than my portals That's not something that I think the writers are aware. They've given her as a power Because for example writers are not aware of a lot of implications of the things that they've said Yeah, like she could kill that means easily a light speed punch to his heart. He's dead Like he ain't making it through that one Um, in fact, I'd be concerned for the surrounding area if she did that But all she needs to do is enough to take him out not enough to fucking explode a crater into earth or anything But uh, yeah, I That being one of the power like if someone said Someone gained power from the tesseract because a device was created from it The when blown up spreads gul over them. What power should they get? I feel like I don't I don't know maybe Maybe opening power opening portals Hey, remember was her name blink from um days of future past she was cool Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're the portal person portal person. Yeah. Why the fuck didn't we have more movies with her? Because um the X-Men writers really loved Wolverine a lot She was like he's super cool and claws and he heals and he smells good Smells good. Um She's kind of like scarlet witch and that her power is really awesome and really useful But also she can be killed by like a stab to the chest. So yeah, why? Did we not see more of her? They had a lot of do you remember days of future passes like a challenge for writing? Oh, I just remembered she was in one of the she had there was a live action x-men show that wasn't legion Um that actually had her as a character. Um, so they did do some stuff I forget if they did anything good, but over the floor. I just went out. Mm-hmm Um, I would be invested in her doing more things Her use her portals in very clever ways like she did with colossus. It was cool But uh, oh well Objective complete know what I was doing I win I think Like subjective complete I feel a lot of I feel like the subjective is complete Hmm What the X-Men are like that where um, you know, they all They all got a lot of cool stuff going on, but the movies never really Allowed it to go to the cool places you would think um I can't control it properly. I want my mousse Don't like the stacks Now he shot the children because one of them had overtaken the minds of all the soldiers I don't know if I agree watch american sniper soldiers had to kill kids all the time in bats We went over it. It's less. Yeah less to do with because this is the thing I can imagine plenty of scenarios where you have to shoot a kid and like an example of extraction handled it really well It's less to do with whether or not he was allowed and more to do with looking at him in that scene and what he's doing It is very odd Yeah, and it's not exactly played off like american snipers No, it's not these these references we have a way superior Like I think people are responding to it in isolation rather than the scene. I don't know Like the concept of Having to shoot a child in a high risk combat scenario I'm like, yeah, I can think of plenty of things to do it with that but Him doing it came out of fucking it just came across as absolutely insane. It didn't feel justified whatsoever And um, like I said, I I think it happened just because they want you to believe he needs to be punished and put away, you know Yeah, I think that's definitely what they're going for You think marvel has the balls to make wanderer villain. She's a freaking reading the demonic book at the end. I I think that they're gonna use it for good or justice Like she'll be presented as antagonistic maybe for the first half of dr. Strange And I think someone I think it might have been you rags to settle like and then beats dr Strange and then there's like oh and I'm good now and then save the day I'm guessing because they are not gonna show strange beating a woman And it's not gonna be like in uh in spider-man 2 where like the consequence of being The villain is that you die to stop the threat that you've unleashed Um, that's funny. I mean, I was thinking about uh fellowship of the ring Boromir like his story and how awesome it is And just the whole idea that like because he attacks Frodo to try and get the ring It's like that almost condemns him to the fate of like dying to to sort of make up for it if you know what I mean Kind of I'm I'm sure and I I feel that's just his principles being let out to a complete He's willing to die to save innocent lives. That's his whole thing It fits in with the rest. I mean even before then he was Willing to put himself in danger to get the little ones out first and things were done for the sake of the hobbits He was a complicated but ultimately good and Well, obviously what happened was the ring amplified his um his fears of Yes, we're gonna get like from construction of gondor and all that. Yeah, the ring will save us I need to take it. I let he said something like you Like I want the power to save my people or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, I just asked for a different of my people Yeah, he is a he is quite a big fan of gondor Was the thing it's the it's the it's the the virgin take that boromir was kind of a bad guy in fellowship Yeah, that is that is the lame take Yeah, you fail film analysis if you think that yeah, honestly. Yeah, you Yeah, you have failed film analysis if you come away from lord of the rings and just think boromir sucks He's awesome Like he's such a great actor When we had our skeptic on he was like boromir is the lame character like anybody What did he say anybody who chooses him is lame or something for their favorite? I was like wow He is a really good pick for favorite I mean, he's he's been mine since uh before I even met I think when I told wolfy was my favorite wolf was like wow Okay, I was like what? Yeah, like I don't know. I don't know how anybody would be His his journey is tragic, but great you know like I would high five boromir There you go. Yeah, come out and say and there's a lot of Maybe it's probably this after the first film as well So Maybe it's because there were certain scenes from uh that weren't in the theatrical cut a fellowship which are really helpful Uh for showing what kind of character boromir is and how big of a dick denith or is yeah Oh, well, I mean it's even there was a scene when he's talking to um Aragorn. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's yeah It wasn't yeah We're talking about like there's goodness in you know in uh in humans, right? Like, you know, you're not even thinking about your own kind um, yeah, um He's he's got a lot of hang ups about a lot of things and this is the thing I think when you come to understand that he's very pro Like gondor and he feels like he's with a group of people who don't give a shit about gondor Yeah, it makes him Like gondor is the the border in a way of between mordor and middle earth And like yeah, he obviously is like you guys like we do a job for this place And then he's not he's not taken very seriously. In fact, he's not trusted like a lot of them think he's kind of like Oh, that guy just wants like the fucking nuke doesn't he? He just wants the codes Yeah, um, I mean he is prideful certainly um Well, it came from place where he's like worshiped almost because of the deeds he's done And then he comes to a place with a bunch of people who he thinks are making the wrong decisions and don't trust him He's like what the fuck? Yeah I'm just fundamentally the ring is corrupting him. Yep. It's the ring like Do people don't you know like do people don't realize that? Like it's just the ring is evil. Oh like at least the ring is you know Makes you do things that aren't quite right takes a lot of A lot of the rings are so good Good series it almost feels like it shouldn't even exist like to have something so cohesive I like Lord of the Rings I'll take And just the fact that it's like it's a it's a crowd please while also being like excellent. Like it's just legitimately excellent um I find it funny that the battle of winter foe was meant to be better than Holmes deep Yeah, I'd hurt him like dude. It is not even a competition in the slug Battle of Winterfell was the first round of destroying the fan base Like it's that's what got me involved because moller said rags. Look at this shit Yeah, I think shad doesn't even watch gave a throne's role of his fans are like you've got to analyze this episode, please It's so bad. Um And then because I remember obviously the Some like half of Game of Thrones fans were like no the episode was fantastic It was a fantastic ending and over the the next episode pushed a few people off and then episode five ruined everything episode five Well, yeah, I think when when the bells were rung and then she's like lol, I'm gonna burn you all I don't know flame ship the whoop. It didn't go over. Well weird Well, I don't know Damn, I remember like one of the things was that uh people named their kid Daenerys Like whoops The season wait till it's all over everybody wait till it's not and even then maybe just avoid it They can make another episode randomly and she's just horrible. I meant to be named your kid wander or like you know Whoops Rescue Gisha girls. Did I not do that? There was two of them My goodness. Hey, this is the sacramon. What do I do with her? She rescued I don't know Because the other one is in the in the shower room, right? He's rescued What do you want me to do game? Rescue the girls in the shower room. Oh, fuck. I've only changed my controls. Horrifying Oh still invaded. Oh terrible Oh Hope you guys have fun I'm not sure if I'll be able to listen to this nothing against you guys But it has been it has ever been difficult to listen to super negative criticism when you're really invested in an ip um Not really I'm I'm mostly fine with it. If I'm listening to people like Shit all over something. I think is really good and their criticisms are bad I'm probably just gonna stop listening if their criticisms are really good. I'm gonna get interested probably I think I'm past letting it wound my ego as well like getting being wrong I was like, oh whatever Yeah, it's it's an arc everyone goes through. I think of just what but I love this thing Do I not love this thing anymore? It's like maybe I mean, it's kind of up to you if you just want to disregard the criticism just be like, you know, I'd not I'd prefer not to listen to it. I'm like, well, yeah, you do That's the thing it's not ignorance for me. Yeah, I wasn't trying to say like don't understand it Like yeah, go for you whatever you want. Um This one though, like I wonder if you're invested in the ip of wandavision or the mcu because like I'm invested in the mcu But at the same time I'll shit all over it if I think it's uh, You know making a mess I'm gonna shoot the geisha gill Did it? He shot at the children. Oh wait, we read that one already if we legally look at vision as property He was bought and paid for by the avengers legally a fellow avenger, especially a loved one would be allowed to claim vision's body Um, potentially this is this is the thing all I'm waiting for is for them to dictate what should happen Based on their rules. I don't know what their will says about this Should belong to stark industry shouldn't it? I would have thought it was created in stark tower It's not materials in Um confused to say the least Is it jobless? Javos Oh my god Before I go to work. I wish you all a massives and chat the best. Well, thank you I wish you the best to you It's a show about wizard wizards intended for the lesbones Probably not for the first one to make this joke. But anyways, hi guys raggiole stay toxic Oh always Yes. Oh, this is a high raggiole. There you go. Oh Bonjour. No but It ended in only so I assume it's italian Um, what black or power metal bands does more look like? I don't think I listened to any black metal. Um, because I'm racist So, uh, for realsies, I don't think I'm not even sure. Um, as for power metal I forget which of the bands I listen to are categorized as power metal. So I'd have to look into it. I'm afraid What a shit answer. I'm so sorry. It can't be any more detailed The grim reality we face This one just runs out here. I hope it counts as saving here when I kill all of these people This time I don't kill these people for nothing woman demand points Uh real quick. I assume dr. Strange is going to get involved at some point But why was there no illusion to strange in this season? Don't know because they I don't fucking know. I don't know. It couldn't get the actor. Maybe or maybe. Yeah, I don't know Well, no illusions like so. Why wasn't there a character saying like damn if only we had dr. Strange here It's like, yeah, we can't he's you know, he's doing things. They don't even do that What we got was you're more powerful than the sorcerer supreme and that's all we got It's like that helps Understand nothing No, watch out Mola. Don't look behind you No I'm not gonna do it unless you mean in game in which case I might just do Now shout out to the unlisted gang. I'm here with you bros Oh Looking at stuff before it's out on mula's channel. That's fucking messed up. Yo Getting close to people shotguns a good idea Wait, did we skip the terrorist conversation from three? terrorist coalition As in what one is doing or What happened in episode three relate into a terrorist conversation? Oh When they oh, you're right. Well, you know, hopefully you stayed for this part. I guess So, uh, when uh, they describe her as a terrorist, uh She says But she hasn't done anything like she's not got a political motivation I think is all she says and then um, he says she's kidnapped thousands of people and then her response is She could kidnap more. We definitely talked about that that line. Yeah The fucking terrible line and whoever wrote it needs to rethink their career um And it's so unfortunate that Like because of how bad the writing is she can say that and get away with it You know what I mean? Like no character is like, what a fucking crazy thing you just said. Why would you say that? But oh, well, um, I've been waiting for this slice and dice brothers. Yeah Uh, Doug Walker actually has an unironically good video on man on the moon No skits or other tisms just an Andy Kaufman fan ripping into a bad biopic I mean, yeah, I I don't think it should be impossible that he could make a good video, you know Well, there's one out there but from dalje critic I mean, there's a reason he's so popular, right? Don't go to one of your boy's comedy Yeah, that's always been the thing that's drawn me away from him is I just I'm not a fan of his skits or jokes Did you guys find it funny and then I found funnier people I found him funny and then I changed my ideas on what funny is Oh Uh, what's worse mando or wonder vision also high rags hi, uh One division I think I think so. Yeah, I think so wonder vision reality I mean the last episode one division is worse than anything in mando, but Hmm, I'm trying to think of what wins in I guess One division has better. Well one division has characters. I guess that helps. Yeah Three episodes have well, does it help if it destroys the characters? No, I don't well. That's yeah, that's what it Problem is the characters who were characters were either destroyed or in jeopardy Compare them because they're they're bad for different reasons like mando's gonna be like Flawed plot like the world building and magic system is worse instead of wonder vision though. Um Not sure I think yeah wonder vision breaks the world more than um, then I think uh, mando breaks star wars world Yeah yeah mando's disadvantages that star wars came pre-broken by uh, the The wonder vision with endgame having pre-broken it But that's true. But what is the influence of endgame's fuckery on wonder vision, you know, like what is it? Plus the sequels the sequels take place after mando, so Well, you know either that's why mando's fucked over but at the same time mando doesn't really do anything to lead into them yet Yeah, mando's a lot more self-contained Uh, that's one of the more self-contained you to ignore a whole shit ton of stuff Man, it's not any self-contained mando is great. You must be new here You must be new mando is shit my dude It was good actually horrific lucky viewer who clearly is here for the first day ever We've got a full episode guide of mandalorian You can find it one every episode you see us watching it reacting to it and then breaking it down with visual references jokes and extensive you got jokes Episode four has a really funny Who gets me? That thing of them driving down the hill I remember like I kept laughing at that for weeks. That is like one of the funniest things I've ever seen In my entire life I will warn you you're not going to enjoy our coverage for the first few episodes if you like the season But by the end we'll probably convince you So I reckon yeah, um if if you walk away from our coverage thinking that mando was good then I don't know what to say. I I guess I have a question what you think good even means Oh, I'm sure this person's uh on board because they thought wanda vision wasn't very good, right? That's why they yeah It's like wanda vision. It's really it's got bad characters and a really horrible plot. They're not any care Well, they're they're they're not as bad as wanda vision But they're contradictory not necessarily as much in character as they are in actions. Yeah, they're mostly just stupid, right? Yeah, they're mostly incompetent idiotic morons all the time. Um, but uh Yeah Then I'll give us too much meaty to really say is a technically a contradiction Yes, enjoy new guy slash girl. All right, you have fun with I mean seriously though if you enjoy our coverage and you have Like a 50 50 perspective on whether or not mando might be well written those videos are probably gonna be fun I also have a video coming out about the mandalorian specifically tackling the stormtrooper issue Namely, they're not meant to be retarded. What do you mean taiko iti made fun of them for exactly that That's correct. He did put that he did shoot that and put that in an episode That is something he did I almost want to hold it against all that This is something I've talked to for you about before, right? You know content creators They can't have a perspective and then change it too quickly Because people will be like wow. What are you worth? You fucking Jump from one thing to the other But that extends even to as far as like Like years and I'm not saying that this is something I regularly experience I I I don't know how many things I flip flopped on in like weeks time But you could argue one division something that my view went really Positive to negative on I think as long as you explain your positions and maintain stuff. It's like it's all good. However I think that process could be given criticism as well as just an explanation of how it works But viewers don't have to go through this shit at all Viewers could be 100 pro one division and the following day be like wow anybody who thinks one division is good Is an idiot and just pretend like you didn't have the other perspective I'm not accusing anybody in chat. All right I'm just saying that you guys can can do that without any repercussions And what's frustrating to some degree is I remember When mandalorian season one finished people were like, oh my god, that student storm trooper scene We're all missing is fucking phenomenal. It's one of my favorite star wars scenes. There is so funny It's so well done. I in the three of us We were very unhappy Fuck me. I can't believe it. I think if you look at the season one courage Even shad is like, I thought the seed was pretty funny. We were like Perfect example how a joke can ruin something they put that in there because like, ah, see it's funny because storm troopers suck It's like, no, you can't do that It's a new universe. Yeah, you're making a canon that they're bad aims It's like, do you have any idea what that causes for the series? It's like, oh And I've gone through the original trilogy now gone through all the storm trooper scenes and a funny discovery Um, they only became really retarded in return of the jedi. Um, first two They were actually mostly okay with the occasional exception Like otherwise they were either it was either excusable that they missed due to the like geography of the scene Or otherwise they were hitting their targets immaculately Our rating was a new hope. They're pretty damn competent empire There's a mixed bag and return of the jedi is unfortunate Like it's very unfortunate That seems to be the case But yeah, for some reason people ran with it in future content and it's a combination of people running with it and the fact that um You need fodder And that has led to some serious downgrades for storm troopers On about this like conversation of Oh, sorry Oh, um, it's kind of an interesting conversation. Isn't it like how do you make fodder that isn't like, um, lobotomized, um And so you have to design something else like robots. You have to fight gremlins or robots or drones Yeah, or just uh, or just animals and hordes of hordes of critters waste But yeah, of course it should be special when the storm troopers show up rather than being the norm What's the thing they want to have They want to have him rooty tootie cowboy shooty in every episode And so we need people from to kill but the storyline regards the empire So it's probably going to be storm troopers that in it and it's like, uh Everyone's bad though. Everyone. Yep. All of the bounty hunters are bad All of the storm troopers are bad Everyone is just bad Unfortunately And and yeah, so to close what I was saying is like Um, a content creator would could go from thinking all of man It was amazing and then over the next few months They're like, you know what actually I've changed my mind and people would be like, oh He flipped so hard on that when audience members get to live in a blissful world where they their positions could be forgotten If they changed completely in one day And uh, this is um I think it's like a common thing with just in general like especially becomes really pronounced in like politics, right? Like if you're a if you talk about a topic Publicly, you're just more likely to say something that you might not even mean or just commit to a position that you later flip flop on And you're held to scrutiny for that whereas everybody else gets to silently be wrong And then publicly pretend like they've been right all along Sometimes it's not just silently that like they could leave loads of comments saying all this stuff and then they'll just be like Well, no one's reading them They won't know that I've completely flipped and honestly like and this isn't this could happen to me as well You might not even be aware. You just get convinced and you're just like, yeah I was kind and you just remember it different like I was always I always hated that scene in Mando season one. It's like did you though? Did you? Well, did you uh, did you change your mind because you realized that I think about change people's minds was seeing that season two Like the stormtroopers were all consistently still godawful and it's like oh no and that scene Doesn't come across as a fun joke now It comes across as a thesis statement about stormtroopers that they disagree with But it always was that what do you think is happening in that scene? It sucks because anybody who makes new content like obviously if I was making it I want my stormtroopers consistent in terms of how they're portrayed But I also want them competent and I have to choose between those two now You're not to say like would it be inconsistent with stormtroopers now if you were to make them fully competent? um On this is that it wasn't that they suddenly became consistently garbage It's that they were always inconsistently garbage. It doesn't matter how how many times you portray them as garbage It doesn't make sense. They are trained for this It'll never make sense no matter how long you portray them this way I have thousand shows and they all just gun down them because they're all looking at their own weapon Barrel facing their face and they're just like I don't know and they're just like see they're stupid and it's like No, they're not those like I don't know what to tell you You just kind of remember Even in mando when they're not shooting main characters suddenly every fucking shot miraculously hits its target to kill Hmm Some it's a real shame and like I know a lot of people like well, maybe mando season three can pull it back together It's like i'm pretty sure it'll be worse guys like it will probably yeah, it'll probably be worse Maybe it'll be a change. Why would they why would they put in the effort to make good stories and good characters people Eat this shit up. They love it people love this crap I'm pretty sure the the replaying of the luke scene in season two like broke records or some shit on uh, disney plus You know, you can like on analytics on youtube it can tell you sometimes like in videos What parts of videos are viewed or something? It has like rising bars. I imagine they have a similar system and That speaks to them guys Like it tells them things We're like, hmm Like because the whole luke show get announced like soon after that happened Yeah, I think like a couple days actually Luke's getting a show Well as far as i'm away. Yeah Oh Give me gray Book of luke skywalker book of have book of java fet It's gonna be great tan Mando season three Probably I could picture it being that mando peter's out because no one actually cares about him. He's not anything Yeah, I can see how that might happen Because uh, all what he's writing on is all the references and you don't have any if they all get their own shows Yeah, like first season it was all like oh, he's like a boba fet kind of character So that's what he was writing on for season one and then season two you got all the guest stars It's just like oh including boba fet. So it's like I'd rather just watch boba fet now Yeah That was something laughing out when I watched season two. I'm like I Why didn't you just make it about boba fet if you're gonna have him be inside of this series like what? What's the point of even having a new character like Yeah, well Honestly, it might have just been a change of focus They were like we can't just bring back boba fet and then they're like what if we do though? Oh my god, we can we can literally we can actually do that boba fet and then we could just we just bring back all the old shit Except we're gonna do it Quote unquote better. I was gonna say good, but it was gonna not like the sequels though Yeah, I think Amanda was an experiment and then it turned into the flagship Yeah, they wanted to test the waters When I saw all the online discussions and stuff about what people really really wanted to see And people just want to see boba fet mindlessly shooting at stormtroopers. They're like, oh, all right. We'll do that We've got it We're true autos as they would say Yeah, we're the next step in human evolution I think if like, you know, you know a fantasy world where star wars is well still well written you could do like Something where the mandalorian like assuming he was a good character He could be like the more traditional mandalorian out outlook and then you could do a show with boba fet that is much more Do like morally ambiguous like you could have them They would have a similar aesthetic, but their stories would be completely different. So that's if In an ideal world you could do that but now because mando is not a character Like what is even the point of keeping him around with boba coming? I will there's nothing to him So they're gonna have to make him a character in season three No, I'm sure yeah We're forced to write I think some people like don't even believe they're like, oh, yeah, okay. He's not a character It's like he's not though. He doesn't have traits. He just does things He doesn't believe in anything So like it fucks you over because you're like, right, what's he gonna do in season three? It's like, I have no idea What is he gonna do? Could be anything because I don't know what he wants. I don't know what he cares about So if someone was like, well, he might go back to bounty hunting. It's like, yeah, I don't know maybe It's off reboot. I don't know wanting not all objectives complete Retrieve dragon save contents. Ooh Moola, no if you ruin vision you destroy the mcu figy the mcu had its chance Moola look, we could have made good stories in this squalor um I just Like the mcu's still got potential left, but holy shit We are in dangerous waters Much to repair at this point that it's just like It's there's barely any point in trying to keep going forward because everything's just destroyed And like I'm worried it's only gonna get worse I think you could repair it, but you've got to fucking actually recognize There's there's an issue and they don't because they made the mistakes in the first place Why can't we like Just just retcon it. Fuck it. I feel this way about everything that's new that comes out. Just get rid of it It was awful. Let's try again Pretender didn't happen Make one division again Give me all the money and all the resources and I'll just all I'll do is not break the whole universe And I feel like that's an improvement You know the the multimillion dollar project was just the first draft and now we're going to do it properly As you just said it's like but they they were looking like I'm crazy It's like why would we do that look how much money it made people loved it And look at all the people on imdb who are writing their good episodes poorly and the bad episodes highly The fucking was it was it the the like main creators saying like don't worry guys It'll get more interesting soon with laces and explosions Okay, it'll be more like the marvel, you know, and I'm just like do you mean like good marvel or do you mean like Yeah, we're gonna dumb it down you're gonna love it and it did But the thing is it like sounds pretty pretentious, but like I don't think it'll be remembered No, no, no people are going around now saying it's memorable, but they're not gonna remember it Like what was the meaningful message about Get over it except don't open up multiverse portals to steal your fake kids From another reality Like honestly the best faith you could possibly do is like when you're dealing with your grief try not to I don't know put it on other people take an entire town hostage But the show doesn't discourage that I'm not the one with the guns. That's okay So, I mean the the show is one with a 3000 slaves though any concept you can come up with the show fights it And it's funny you say like who remembers bad or sees what it's like I haven't even occurred to be the whole like what's your favorite episode from bad or season 2 guarantee you they they name a character Uh, uh, maybe just a circuit, you know, maybe they'll just go oh the acerca one that was good It's like what happened in it. That's what I said like they'll name a character guest star They won't name like a plot line a meaningful thing. I guess I was trying to be more charitable like Oh, you know, it is the acerca episode. It's like it's not really though. Is it it's acerca You just like that character Hmm Do you guys find it weird that the director of sword is at the dome site in person when thaws hammer landed on earth Fury sent colson doesn't hayward have an entire agency to run. Yeah, but he's evil He wants to take vision for himself and kill wonder that he can shoot the fake kids. Yeah Evan Peters all set off they'll all set up no payoff marvel studios presents american horror story witch witchy woman They seem to be okay with it They don't give a fuck that you don't like that it wasn't paid off at all This is the most awkward boss fight I've ever fucking played What is this? Wow, that was terrible Oh my god Five shots and that's it. That's over What a boss fight. It's so clunky, too Uh, the justice league cartoon had green lantern give himself up when he accidentally destroyed a planet It was later revealed. He was framed, but he was still honorable Uh, it's wander gonna have that integrity for twilight zoning a town. Nope No, no It's like that This is part of what we were advocating for and it's like some people in chat were pushing back like she wouldn't be able to be Held in a prison. It's like you're missing the point completely, but okay Justice was like injustice the video game even did it better than that. Barry was part of the regime He turns against it and he helps the good guys win, but he still turns himself in Yeah, he still Howl turned himself into and then in injustice too He had to go through the trials again to become a green lantern and the whole time He's trying to repent for all the bad things he did Sam with Barry and like those games have problems from a writing perspective There's a lot of tism in them But like even those ones recognize if you're complicit in the regime Just because you help overturn it doesn't mean that you've got a clean slate. So got work to do Yes, anyone wants to know about the problems of injustice. I recommend fourth snake's uh injustice critique Quite thorough Uh cat dennings. You're so quirky lol. So all is fine. I don't even She was so important to that season So glad they had that Re-watch the scene when Wu shouts monica's name near the end of episode nine the c in her name really sounds like a g The way that he says it Monica Monika monica interesting There is a great courses course spun to the tune of mathemes sci-fi Sci-fiction as philosophy with david kyle johnson. Please destroy it what what I mean Remember video or uh, we do not But eight mathemes entirely, right? Yeah, i'm fine with things seems are great if they're executed well And they're supported by the material we just hate when they use as an excuse The shitty writing. Yeah, it's not a backdoor to escape criticism Yep, in fact, one of my criticisms of wonder vision is a waste of good themes or good potential themes Yes, could have could have been done Uh, will rucker rucker ali get onto efab before he dies I don't know where that is I make songs and stuff on a youtube Well, uh, you know, maybe maybe maybe he'll die. Maybe he won't who knows who could possibly know these things Uh, this is an awesome stream to come home to work after work I swear the show was the embodiment of a down downward hill. Hope everyone is well also high rags Hello Yeah, I mean uh pretty chill stream had a lot of good good old-fashioned discussion about about writing to me Uh rambo manages to attain powers merely by walking through a wall super mary sue black savior jesus Well, it's just uh The whole thing just sad like i don't know. Do you know what a power origin is in the comics? Is it the same shit or? Uh, not entirely sure I know that her powers are like to do with she can kind of Do control things with the like lights the electromagnetic spectrum But she can only like control one at a time and there's like limitations to it and But i'm not i'm not too too familiar. I just did a quick google and wikipedia explained more than the actual show did I presume it has more meaning than she went through a wall She was the second captain marvel. It's even uh i'm supposed to say it's even worse than captain marvel I guess it's on par they both Do actions that wouldn't in any way make us think that they're gonna get superpowers and they both do it for reasons That aren't quite solid at all And monica's like i don't care if i die even if i become mind controlled. I really want to get in there like okay This feels like you can do more good from the outside, but okay Due to bombardment by extra dimensional energies monica can transform herself into any form of energy with the electromagnetic spectrum among many energy forms so it seems like I don't know what the context is in the comics though Um, so it could have been like more reasonable or it could be just as retarded I just don't have enough information Yeah, I don't know either Uh captain marvel i think you mean cheeseburger Okay, so ridiculous great stream. I I don't understand the cheeseburger thing isn't anyone Don't understand that one um captain marvel more like cheeseburger I don't know I hope he did like cheese One american cheeseburger The scrolls will fuck up the mcu timeline probably Well with the current writers, yeah Kind of funny cuz like they've always been here. It's like oh The ifa may turn out to be like an mcu destruction podcast with how much they're gonna put out and how bad it might be Yeah, you thought the dcu walk was bad It is you're right. You're well. I mean dcu is Fucking disaster, but yeah. Yeah, it was dead on arrival while the mcu's more heartbreaking because it It has a lot of really good Points in it. Yeah, it has a lot of good highs the dcu is just less deep trenches What a shame You guys ever play hunt Showdown or deep rock galactic not perfect by any means but criminally underrated in my estimation I've only dabbled in both of them very lightly I've liked them both what I did play Tell that to wander's cracked skull Nays that scene is shot by shot copy of the fighter man of steel check out the film god video on it Oh, no not film god I don't that's the thing. I don't consider like You know like a super flyy person grabs someone and throws them through a building You could probably find that in so many high budget clashes of super strong people And then I know the people who compared the laser clashing to doomsday and superman. I'm like, what are you talking about? That's in like shit tons of things That's that's not even remotely similar because doomsday had his big face laser and superman had heat vision Which was much tinier. Um, and it was also covered in smoke Does doomsday win that as well? I can't remember actually and I edited that because remember He beats him because he's stronger vision loses because he gets like Ultismed by the lack of you know the different why I didn't bother It's funny. I'm like look they didn't copy it because it's different in how shit it is but it's like Why even Like you can have two lasers clash, okay? I'm not going to stop you from doing that Yeah, it's a it's a tradition at this point. Um But anyone is anyone getting like these really awful video recommendations from a channel called tex Wait a minute. Is tex the dc The guy the guy we covered on we haven't released yet. It's an offline e-fap. We did It's possible you've covered him because he's like just he keeps pumping out dce you um fucking Pro dce you videos like around the clock I just like the idea that he's stuffing up your recommend. Did you like no? He really was it's just every day. There's a new one. I'm just like, I don't like the dce you I just had to google a bunch of it because it's kind of my job um This is the channel if you're wondering Uh, no, I have not seen those Uh Man the first marvel video. Oh dark side hypocrisy Good thanos bad dark side. Yes, because thanos looks better than dark side way less technical effects He looks like a real convincing thing that exists Dark side doesn't he looks like a CGI man I mean the the latest I saw of the released image of dark side looks better than the um the other one I saw but yeah thanos I don't know if you guys remember he looks like a real ass person. It's pretty creepy They went through so much effort to make sure that he was like Blending into every scene and that every like nuance of josh brolin's face was like being picked up Yeah, he was a great cast for thanos by the way. Yes, he was. Oh, yeah I guess he'll be back as uh, whenever that when they reintroduce um, uh cable Yeah, because he was awesome as cable as well. He's just a good actor. I think that could be it Oh, definitely. We will forgive you. He was really good as catario Well, he's good in this is kind of where I was going with this as a joke is like he's actually good in everything I've seen him enough. He's been in a shit ton of movies Yeah Um, I just I found him very powerful as thanos. He felt he suited him Yeah Um, but yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the guy we covered for um the off-line. He found he had a video about like Oh, fuck. Was it even cold? I think it was just bvs as a masterpiece or something No, it's not the same channel. No, it's I don't think it is This guy was retarded One of his videos was recommended in one of those videos. It's batman v. Superman deserves more respect But the masterpiece one was a different channel Well, we covered two, right? Uh, was the second well the second one was um Oh damn, maybe you're right. I don't I don't know. Well, you guys will find out honestly that was That's like eight hours of video coverage Wait, you might be right actually now that I think about it. Yeah Oh, yeah, we did we did cosmonaut variety. Yeah, doesn't understand batman v. Superman. Oh, it was yeah, right, okay Yeah, so he um, it's just funny because any video that's on marvel is and now it's crapper looks lame um Uh, and then all the ones about justice league are like, oh, it's amazing. It's incredible Well, see you guys you should watch efap because we hate all of it. Okay Or most of all of it He has a video debunking people saying that jared letter's hair is too long in the new joker footage Oh This guy really has an investment in defending these people things and and another video called kong is tall Okay, not as tall as godzilla He's not as tall as godzilla. You're right. Not close. That's like your opinion to grow Correct Yeah problem I don't shoot these guys. Is that against the law in this game? Oh, it's a civilian. Okay Fine Uh, you guys have a play. Oh, yeah, if the two kids uh wonder vision and visions Why is one magic and the other a speedster? Surely one must be a mini vision One must be maybe some brotherly love. She created them, right? That's how I always just find my head of how anything happens for them. She created them Yeah, I think that's how that works There's billion hapsperm even No idea little nanobots Yeah Doesn't the mcu and the dcu copy off each other all the time since the beginning I mean No, that's fake all those pictures on and whatever that people say that all the time. It's like, no, it's not The perilous people draw are so thin I've always felt that a lot of it is going to be coincidence. Um, but it's funny to draw lines and connections and Everybody seems to be on the same page that the dcu wanted to catch up to marvel There would be no sense of wanting to catch up to marvel if there wasn't a sense of wanting to be marvel um Or have their success right so they could have chilled out, but they just like rushed everything and Uh in doing so there's some stuff that I think can connect but in the same vein like That's not why it's bad or anything no uh I think because isn't it isn't it like a saying, um, it's not one I necessarily agree with but uh Is is someone like copying? Well being inspired by is like a good thing and then stealing is a genius thing or some shit like that imitation is the fair Sure as form of flattery or something like that, right? Well, that's a different one called the art of steels. Um, that's like a guide to how to take different ideas and repurpose them Yeah, and obviously not going as far as saying you literally take someone's work and sell it as your own. Just um You take things that are really strong and from them build new things and good things as well Everything is iterative that whole bang Um, and so this is what I would pose to the people who think that one division sucks because it copied Snyder, I should be like Do you think Snyder's that awful that when you copy him you end up with that? I don't know like obviously I think he's that awful, but a lot of people don't Yeah, um It's funny thing is like if dc wanted to do their shared universe And you know i'm a fan of their shared universe and all the things you can do with it But I you know and if so if they wanted to do it and of course, you know marvel showing it could work If they had just taken their time We could have been in a world where dc while dc is doing like their solo movies marvel could be doing their Team up movies and then while dc is doing their team up movies marvel could be doing their solos So you would always have like at them alternating so they would always be hitting different markets at different times So they actually fucked themselves in a completely different way by trying to rush to catch up to marvel in that sense Because people would have been craving smaller stories while the avengers were going on fighting Thanos and stuff Yeah, they just wanted to they just ended up being a second-rate version of something else Hmm, which is bad just wasn't a reason to go see it Yeah Um Silly e-fap, don't you know that wander vision is a show about red wizards meant for fake children? I did know that Doesn't make it more enjoyable Not a fan of the show, but e-fap you get to look at vision. Yeah Was uh Nice to see him at first. I was just hoping that they would um Do what has to be done and remind me that he's absolutely gone and dead but appreciate the uh the insight into his character That we would have gone But they didn't really do that I'm looking at film gobs channel and it just looks like This is like a church for zack snider Like it's just worshiping everything that he's ever done and every breath he's ever taken it's like Well, it's bizarre film gob Some say that Here's a masterpiece Oh, is he like a he's a huge dc person Uh snider specifically it seems Which is different that is an important difference. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm a dc person, but I think all of the dceu is Fucking garbage. It's horrifically bad. It's What am I supposed to do if I run out of Dots, I can't kill these guys. Can I hit them with gas? Do I have gas? Remember in Buffy when they Uh did that thing in season one? Yeah, it's uh, it's horrifying and um, they don't know about it is why That's something that can be um It leaves the characters unaware of of uh of the of the guilt they would face for not having acknowledged it in um Season one. Do you know what I'm referencing? Uh, Fringy the uh the statue Could you say that one again? Something that happens in Buffy season one Uh a certain statue Oh, yeah Yeah, but um, it's horrifying, but nobody knows that that's what's happened Which helps them out and also it probably ends at some point Uh, oh, yeah, kind of yeah, I guess well, who knows right? But yeah, it is horrifying, but none of them know And it's season one. So, you know It's a sucky content Well, like I don't really take issue with it Um, it's uh, it's one of those things where the the villain has been fucked over by the spells and no one can figure out What happened to help them? So Really horrible justice right there. Well, I guess it wouldn't be justice at that point, but you know what I mean comic tisms Words, that's what I was trying to say Yeah relevant uh, congratulations the meme repository for being on eFab from spooderman Oh, thanks Rags Aussie accent is the same as ruckus and he's dying What do you mean like actually dying of something? I don't I don't know I don't know who this person is It sucks if they die Yeah, that's terrible I thought that was like a an expression for will you ever get him on? Yeah, sort of thing. Yeah, I thought the the meme was like it's going to take so long that he dies But I guess he's actually dying Yeah, it's just unfortunate. Yeah, I I mean, I'm sorry to hear that. Hmm. Um, definitely. Hope he hopes he get, you know, I definitely hope he gets better Hmm Glad to see the meme repository appearing on eFap your editing works on eFap movies have been top notch Oh, geez Lol don't have much to say but I appreciate the insight. I subjectively enjoyed one division, but I objectively dislike it Um Enjoy it you dislike it and those are separate Okay, you know Usually we say like subjectively like and objectively bad but consider it poorly. Yeah You know, maybe that's what they meant. I don't know Yeah, maybe I used to watch cosmo no bullshit and others thankfully eFap saved me and I started to look at media more critically. Thank you all for high rags Hey I think a lot of people would have watched them and just not really listened to what they were saying That's just how it goes And that's fine by the way Yeah, I think cosmo was like one of the first um essay people that I like Was dubious of like um, I watched some of his content and I I noticed that I only liked him when I agreed with him And the rest of the time I couldn't stand him. So that's kind of a sign that maybe his argumentation just was um, a little bit Yeah Uh, I just didn't get it every time I was watching any videos and the recommended I was just like why they're so crap. How how are people liking this? His arguments can be infuriating But he'll obviously rely on the whole like Just share my opinion. I know but sometimes he's just straight up lie like I don't know what to tell you Oh, no He was dull my ammo Why Why can't I shoot these guys? Let me I know it's evil, but I let me play evil mode Now you guys should do an eFap movie of kongo 5 We have uh We've considered such things I don't I don't see why we won't maybe one day Um, you all fucking you are you all fucking me threats on fire was the shit and hearing that you played it on laptop Is mind blown the game was meant for keyboard Customs aren't on well, so I associated a lot for people bringing it into high school to play it on their laptops Right, it wouldn't be PCs, but of course you could play it on pc I certainly won't stop you Remind me of high school when everyone would just um when they were supposed to be doing like independent study They would just go into like the common room and just play age of empires and one person actually Punched their laptop so hard. They smashed the screen and it flung across the table It was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen and then he took it to the repair office and said it had a virus All objectives complete. Can't I can't they just kind of pretend? God this game is so mean Uh Any possible eFap movie marathon on harry potter in the future rags ripping into them is worth the ticket admission alone Also high rags Hey there If if uh, we could gather a certain crowd that would be on board with such things I don't know how rags feels about about tension against it. Yeah, maybe maybe but yes, I'm not against the idea One day we could put chance enter into the realm of harold potter Harold potter like an example of like Like an example of like character work is, you know, the characters can typically be pretty likable over the world buildings infuriating harry potter Shut up muggles don't know about wizards somehow I don't know Rub people that haven't played down the list of 2000 to 2015 freeware titles disgust me Um, all right filthy casuals. I haven't even heard of endgame singularity, etc Well, I played a lot of um, like flash games back in the day if that's what's being referred to they put freeware I don't know if they come under that they do I don't know what I'm gonna do. I needed to complete this level without firing as many of my dots as I did I can't play stealthy right now. You kidding? embarrassing You will do it Well, if I not done the things and you don't worry we're making progress Kongo 5 and skonkly island are only alike in the most shallow ways They both use the same story as kong 33 But skonkly strips it of all the drama and gravity kong 5 stretches all the drama out and takes its time All right Kongo 5 greater than skonkle island I mean, I'm pretty sure kongo 5 is better, but I like I said, I haven't seen it in ages But that matter I'd say you're correct For that matter 1989 2000 abandonware d.o.s Or DOS games and freeware in general was pretty dope. Why have you not started playing down that list two scrubs? um Because yeah, I'm on the gamecube and the gamecube is for cool people It's true. Yeah, I didn't make the rules. Okay You carry it around like a lunchbox great A lot of good stuff in gamecube. Oh, yeah My favorite gamecube game was gamecube Like what does that mean 2004 you had to play all of them with that lot I know download something I thought I Uh playing dark souls more of the gun sound effect in your game sounds kind of like Dark traps and sense fortress so it keeps freaking me out. Hi rags. Hmm. Hello Fuck it really lost Keep fucking with him Well, they only saw they just alert the alarming things. It's it's horrible. They shouldn't be allowed Uh Find and download little fighter 2 version 1.19 and 20 attorney, um I shall not give in to your demands That great episode guys was looking forward to you ripping the show apart at more if you were the world leader You would be my number one advisor Oh, sorry, if I were the world leader, you'd be my number one boy advisor I I would recommend someone else not to um Not too great at world affairs. I would say I'm pretty decent when it comes to looking at movies So if you need that, you know, let me know I would consider that carefully. I'd be like, please just put it into the law. We'll be okay. They have to redraw once at least once No, they don't give up at that point. It was ridiculous. What are these limitations? Easy alarm. Go away All these goody two-shoes security dudes. How on you because you're breaking the law They video games are just so limited Why can't I break the law? I never fully explain it There's a dude in here as well People that haven't spent at least 20 years pirating downloading purchasing or playing I never fully explain it Plot hole There's a dude in here as well People that haven't spent at least 20 years pirating downloading purchasing or playing literally every video game that runs under the windows Under windows are wasted life Never a truer statement been said If you haven't played all games, you're in trouble Yeah, you're not a real gamer. No If you think you're a real gamer name all games Exactly how I think That was just several noises. I don't agree with it. I just said it really fast, you know, you couldn't comprehend it Because of my fast talk my flash talk Stop that flashy talk, sir Insane bad man over there. I can avoid this one More less gate 3 run on rpcs 3 for superchats when I do not necessarily know what games are eventually going to be played But all the james bond nightfire fans out there were very happy about today's choice. Let me say that Those were some sounds don't want to get killed. Can you blame me? Uh, yeah, I guess fair point Um, can I fucking save? I don't have to do all that again. I did it right this time Stay down Nobody tell on me won't give me a checkpoint game. I've earned it objective complete I've done something good. I know that much Executive floor laser step cycle now running that supposed to oh, this is where I did it Uh Afe shouldn't be 10 minutes long Sorry should be 10 minutes long and be unaware parody Very well That's your preference. That would be an ideal world Why did vision try to take X vision stone Yeah, I don't know You got me. I don't know maybe he thought that was his weak spot I like that. Um, uh, real vision who has turned into come vision. Um, is like Stone hole is like the perfect shape for hex visions finger Maybe they built in that way Maybe it's just like a little little fingerprint reader on the forehead, you know You got to get all the use out of those little orifices Uh, it's orify idiot Uh Ifa movies congos Five and double seven movies I don't know if we're already What's with all these people asking for kong? All of a sudden everyone wants us to see this 2005 on the people's minds today Yeah, what's going on? Did some Spread something in the chair Did we discuss it that's how Is godzilla versus kong maybe like that's coming That's why people are thinking about yeah, I think you would have been more than that but right because this is specifically peter jackson Yeah, they're referring to that right in the 33 one or godzilla like no one's mentioned godzilla yet No, we've done one's got big monkey on the brain I guess it's because everybody knows that godzilla is a popular one. So everybody's feeling really bad for kong I like kong needs some love Well, I mean I like king kong in the movie king kong But like that isn't the kong we're getting in these movies like he's he's misunderstood monster tragic in uh Pitter jackson's words. Here. He is just a big monster thing Of course godzilla's used to be fucking radio. I give listen But he's a hero. Yeah I have to be a godzilla quite cool than kong Um, I would have a beer with godzilla king kong. I don't know. He might start fucking up the bar I don't know You're like me some godzilla You pretty cool. Yeah You know Yeah, he's uh, he's a good boy Is that I have a beer with him? I would watch some movies with godzilla. I don't know if we can get him a Oh like a big chair Seems like a bro that godzilla Yeah He does seem like a bro like if there was a girl in the bar like a big mothra He'd he'd help. Well, no not mothra. Mothra is his bitch. Um, yeah, he'd help out though You know, it was like if there was I don't know a giant lizard or like a What what would what would I don't know? What are who's godzilla's friends? I'm angry Okay, um Yeah, like if they're at the bar They'll be you know, who we like oh come on just talk to her. He's like, uh, I don't know You know, I'm just I haven't been doing so well since my wife left me Um, and then godzilla's like I got you bro And walks up to all the chicks in the bar helping You know introduce this friend whatever his name is. I've already forgotten I think unless the movie we need I would say enough of this godzilla hatred Morning, not all jackets. I gotta go steal something such an evil little man Um How about a smile the dawn now I sexually harass you I mean again I wonder how many people we will be seeing argue that uh The dawn is still I wonder if brown table thinks the dawn is worse than wonder Like come on the dawn might be the least molested character in the mcu by the end of this Yeah I can't wait to see all of the defendant wonder. I guarantee a ton of people are going to be saying She was completely in the right what she did. I've got my aspirin on standby Well, yeah, it would be absurd. Which is why I expect it from some of these fucking morally deformed degenerate youtubers Well, yeah, it's one of those things we talked about a lot, right bad bad movies bring out the uh, the weird morality of a lot of video It's weird morality people. Well, yeah, because I've seen a few people like oh in wonder woman Barbara should have killed that guy. It's like are you You guys like You gotta recon we need to start from the baseline of like morality and work our way up from there You know killing people is not cool. I think so, too Um, I know that you guys are supposed to be tempted towards the alt right by this podcast and Nazi's and stuff, but I'm not cool with killing Yeah I mean they just pretend I was for um I'm not cool with killing wink It is legitimately funny that people can argue From that position considering how much we've talked that morality has been talked about on this podcast recently Well, nobody watches it who hates it? I guess I presume they talk about hitlers. Have I regularly what else would they talk about? You know fap stands for concentration camp, right? Yes An internet concentration camp. Is there anything scarier? Hmm virtual reality concentration camp Uh more have you played pn03 for gamecube? No Did I say I don't know what that is At this point, I'm gonna just fucking raise the alarm. I don't know what I'm supposed to do I don't have the code to get through here I don't want to put a wrong code in it might just kill me You can go back on the elevator Oh, I came out of a vent, didn't I Uh greetings hatemongers glad to see you playing night fire. This game was my childhood and Brosnan is my bond because of it Don't blast my dude Yeah, I played this game a whole bunch, but I've forgotten a shit ton of it at this point Some of this stuff is vaguely memorable. That's why I'm so good at it. I would say probably tell Oh, I can't get back up there. Okay I have to look for nightfire clues guess the code 1 2 3 4 google the code. Uh the code changes every load Code changes every load. I think they knew that I was going to cheat Must Have to hack something No, there are two of them We got to prequel bad where at least there's interesting things in there that I can like That would be nice. Let's go back to the I was playing I was playing mordhau yesterday and there were a bunch of and this was like early in Early like 3 a.m. I just happened to be up and I was like not tired and people were Quoting the prequels in the text chat Boss nas and all that stuff and like man, these things get staying power these prequels People that's not like heaven. Yeah the meme power There's quoting lines I did watch like revenge of the sith on loop when I was 10 years old So a lot of those are just burned into my just brain just all those quotes They uh, they made their mark those movies and not in the same way that the sequels did But that way no No All right, you guns just kill me. I don't know what I'm supposed to do Also, nice seeing you on efap repo and high rags pets for the good Oh nice to see you viewer person. Hello Before Wanda vision the mcu was canon to the tv shows, but the shows weren't canon to the mcu What is your biggest worry for spider-man? No way home. Thank you too Uh, I'm worried that it's gonna be too big for sound good I think it's just gonna be written like shit. That's the worry Yeah, I kind of feel like Like yeah, it's um, I kind of feel like if they're going to do all those like crossovers, which if they do well could be really nifty But I feel like to do this well You kind of have to start the story in another movie It's like toby maguire showing up as like a supporting character and The multiverse of madness or something just to ease the load a little bit But I don't know what's gonna happen. I hope it's not shit Yeah, yeah I feel we're in in for some potential trouble like the amount that juggling. I don't know Yeah, I don't want to expect We'll be given it a chance of course If you're investing the mcu then you have to see it, but if you see it then your investment will be destroyed That's a problem Yeah I suppose the only solution to that is you have a friend summarize it for you in the most generous way possible She was in a town and had a family Yes a family of some very sad between every sentence you have to say she was very sad Madness now look mind you. She was very sad Anyway, the fact the woman said if you won't let us leave just let us die Um, she was very very sad. Yes One person justified slavery sadness give me to retrieve the nightfire files I should I like that justified empathy. She justified slavery because she had empathy Look, I think we're forgetting key Ingredients he was sad That is true. She was sad I too enslave and torture people when I am in the blues This is why I'm also a case of oppression are on the rise because we outlawed slavery Hmm. That's true Am I supposed to get this thing in there? Yeah, like I'm gonna commit to myself. Maybe there's that other room. I'm supposed to All right. I have new ideas of how to beat this level. It's all good Now you guys mentioned the spotica show on a previous efab. I watched that as a kid from what I remember It's like game of thrones on crack on a much smaller scale also probably nowhere is good I Who knows I never heard anything about it. I couldn't even begin to formulate an opinion. Yeah, though. I could It's shit. Wow See there you go. Yeah, opinions have been formulated. It was actually easier than I thought I thought it'd be harder to just form an opinion on something. I know nothing about but it was actually pretty easy I wonder if this is a common thing people do Maybe maybe Maybe they, you know, look for flaws Um, intentionally because they want a hot take of some variety But reg you don't know anything about avatar. You keep telling yourselves that if it helps you feel good And now I go to the comments to see them lose their mind I'm just gonna cut the head off that snake real quick. Oh no snake. It's head And I'm waiting Doesn't know anything about it So moving on let we'll let that fester moving on this can I inject my card in this Let me win game inject I just want to inject your card like pay to win. Let me come. I kind of beat this by just swiping my credit card I order stead Was the spooky computer this I'm just gonna run in and let them kill me while I install the q-wim Do it q No Maybe I missed my chance to install the q-wim. I'm not sure I miss what bad used to be They used to be like things to latch on to now. It's just well. I'm sure this game is fine in terms of telling me What I have to do. I've just missed the information I'm I'm confused I don't like q-wim in a computer room with a red screen. I don't think I saw any Decrypto the so in chat. I look over the chat and there's someone said therapy animals on a plane And I don't know the context of that I I'm gonna assume in my head that this is like a toned down version of snakes on a plane Oh I would watch dinosaurs on a plane that'd be cool dinosaurs not like physically on top of the plane holding on It's that yeah Actually, not what you think it's it's a movie about dinosaurs taken across country trip for like business trips And it's all their stories taking place over the course of this plane trip. That could be a really cool bottle episode of a movie Yeah, the fact of the dinosaurs and turns all the dinosaurs into happy go lucky carefree residents of a Of bedrock the town of bedrock I watched a uh zombie movie on a plane. It was called plane dead All right Plane dead Yeah, that sounds good Let me let me look it up plane dead I think it has a living dead outbreak on a plane Possibly because I think the I think it has a different title depending on the region you're in um It's in australia. It's called plane dead or possibly in europe, but uh, I think it has a different title in america. I'm not Is this it? Um Outbreak on a plane at 30,000 feet. There's nowhere to run. Oh god. That's like a mid 2000s dvd cover Correct amundo. This took place. This came out in 2007. Yeah, I think yeah, I think this is I think this is probably it um, I I watched it when I was like 11 or something Uh It was it was not great from what I remember. Oh, yep. Yep. Here's the uh, the the wikipedia actually has the plane Okay wikipedia you you're sending mixed messages right now because you have like the american title For your wiki article title, but the poster says plane dead Oh, oh, I see it. Yeah, I see it undead at 30 000 feet Plane dead a flight you wish you had missed Oh Thank Uh, it's coming back to me now. There's like terrorists that sneak the virus on board and it leaks I knew it never trusted a terrorist Good advice. Oh and apparently it is a variation of the malaria virus The m virus It was created by the evil, uh pharmaceutical company paris all I get it Yeah, thanks That's all that's So I I uh, I what for the the thumbnail for this video. I wanted to do um Wiley coyote reference. So just for for sort of visual reference I've just been playing wiley coyote compilations Fucking loony twos man classic Classic Chuck Jones The while yeah while I think um I I read Chuck Jones a book And um, he was talking about the rules that he set for um wiley coyote and road runner And I think those rules are the reason why I always liked it more than tom and jerry like Jerry's a cunt Um, yeah, like tom is the protagonist of that series really um And so it's like really annoying to watch because tom's constantly getting punished when Usually jerry's the instigator. Whereas like one of the rules for road runner is that uh road runner never instigates Like he doesn't even it's always coyote It's always the it's always the stupidity or the It's always a mistake that the coyote makes that costs him not like it's not even that it's not even that um He'll like road runner will be provoked and then he'll screw with coyote. He just he doesn't screw with him ever Like he's just he's always honks before he runs away Yeah, um, and then coyote will screw something up Um, and I mean, I think that extends to a lot of looney tune stuff, right? Like bogs bunny doesn't pick a fight Um, so you're always on the side dappy doc always picks a fight. So it's really easy to laugh at him um And it Chuck Chuck Jones attacks every we're absolute legends. Uh, yeah indeed those two guys man One of the bugs bunny did pick a fight He would normally get comeuppance like uh, he picked remember that The skit where he picked a fight with a turtle because he read the story of the turtle in the hair And wanted to prove that he would win and the turtle had a rapid pack There's there's two episodes of those I think Yeah Oh my god, they have a cutscene for if I jump off the clue the tower Good job game also, I think it would have been worth putting a checkpoint between the the Helicopter sequence and all this bit, but you know, that's just my opinion. What do I know not a gamer? Just a moobly. You're not a game developer Uh, I really like the fights and sex and Spartacus. That is all All right Uh, I'm already interested. Mm-hmm Uh, thoughts on most of nudity in it. Oh good Excellent even Thoughts on how most reviews don't mention how awful the things that Wanda does are or how they say Wanda vision is the same as all of the mcu It concerns me It should it tells you the standards are all over the fucking place I feel like they I feel like if even if their words don't communicate it, they must feel like A lesser-ness to it. This is gonna come across condescending But when high top says You're only interpreting one uh wonder woman 84 It dishonestly to make it seem worse than the intentions of the author which weren't a whole rape thing. I'm like You're a bit naive and you're gonna get there one day Because that shit is unacceptable. It doesn't matter if the fucking creator was like, oh, I don't think it's that even though they didn't say That's all I was trying to parody um big Yeah, these things Just nah, this is the thing if it was to be some sort of a serious thing It would be like uh, this was incredibly reckless and your story doesn't even like condemn it for it In fact, she seems to argue that like that was the thing to do. I remember I can't believe they included it It's so fucked where he's like, um You know, what about this guy? What about what about anything pointing to himself and then she's like I don't care about him It's just like Our hero everyone And yeah, so um the whole moral thing Like choosing to ignore it because you like the film. It's like, oh you got some grown-up to do You'll get that one or at least acknowledge it. Yeah, just uh It would be better if you were like you talk about the things that you thought were really good in it While saying like yeah, that was fucked. They really needed to fix that But oh well um So guys with youtube's becoming ever more stringent if you guys considered starting channels on other platforms Aka bit shoot minds parlor um no It would only be if I was booted off. I've got everything backed up so I can move Well, I don't want to there's not much of an audience on those platforms And there's a lot of baggage Attached to those platforms too. I would prefer to be on those platforms and no platform at all Oh, if if I had no choice sure, but as long as youtube's still around Yeah, until I am in that position. I'm just gonna carry on Um, but don't worry efap and my videos are all safe. They're all backed up I'll never lose them every last modicum of complaining about things will be intact Honestly, I thought the finale wasn't that bad, but it was really distracting when Agent Wu called modica the n word nearly at the end. Yeah That was the it it seemed unusual for his character, but um You know sometimes if you sometimes in a heated moment you say the gamer word and There you go We'll just go fairness and shoot the kevlar Wu was in an intense game of call of duty. Can he be blamed? I do not know Oh fringy, you're gonna love this. They recently confirmed. There are no playable elites in halo infinite. So that's just yeah That really bugs me Oh Okay, I don't know why not. I would have been interested. Why not just have it be an option, you know Yeah, for machinima people for sure and also no jewel wielding, which means it it's been like 13 years It's been 13 years since we've had jewel wielding in halo three was the last one They've released a wielding of jewels Yeah, it reached and have it for and have it and five five definitely didn't have it five as well Five yeah, but od st I can kind of understand because like the whole idea of being a normal person It's going to be hard to jewel wield like these massive. Yeah, that's true um I gotta tell you like it's halo five is such a weird game for me because I really enjoyed the multiplayer, but I also The multiplayer is so It's so geared towards competitive play that it's not a game to play casually for fun. Yeah um like that game is uh that game is uh fast and There are certain weapons and it's funny. I was going to say that game is well balanced, but it's not uh pistols are incredibly powerful in that game um What was wrong with jewel wielding? Well, nothing was wrong with it. That's why I don't know I don't know why it's not. I don't know why it's not a part of the new games Yeah, I never was like, oh no. I can dual wield. Oh no options Especially when it comes to single player if they were if they said if they came out and said all right guys We've got a fairly good variety of weaponry I don't think that we can balance multiplayer Well enough around being able to mix and match all different kinds of weapons We feel it would be overpowered in multiplayer So it will be in single player and in firefight in other cooperative modes However, and you know pvp multiplayer It will be single guns only in the game will be balanced around those single guns But in it but in campaign fucking go for it go nuts and go nuts in the firefight That's big thing. Why not have it in campaign like Yeah, it's like, oh no, it's too strong in campaign. We'll now buff the difficulty up Yeah, like with halo reach it was in the code and you could actually enable dual wielding in the code So I just I don't know why why not just have that be like say you're in forge or custom games or something And you can just enable it as an option if you want it, you know Yeah Like surely it's not it's actually I I don't want to say like surely it's not that hard because i'm sure that There is stuff that goes into all of these decisions. It's complicated, but I don't know they did it a lot. They did it before. I don't see why they can't do it now Yeah, only excuse. I've really heard um that might be valid is just um balancing like uh the weapon damage and everything because every um you've got a So some weapons in halo 2 got nerfed because of dual wielding But then again when they came back in halo 3 they said, okay The needler was kind of shit in halo 2 So let's just not make a dual wieldable even though it should be logically dual wielded Like you can make mechanical choices like that while still keeping dual wielding in there, you know Yeah, yeah the um Yeah, if a gun is good enough like If I can have two guns Do they does that mean that in order to balance them? Do they have to be only viable when they're dual wielded? Which means if I just have a single weapon, is it just not going to really do anything? I think um I'm not sure who said it. I'm not sure who said it No, it was in halo 3 vidok where they said um the problem with starting people with uh Yeah, actually that's good. So they said that the problem with smg starts was because it was a dual wielding weapon People would generally just default to dual wielding and not melee anymore Uh, so then halo 3 has Yeah, because if you spawn with it and you die with it, there's going to be a lot of them There's going to be a lot of them around and people would just dual wield So it's like okay, so and then in halo 3 it's like we'll start them with the battle rifle and the uh, or the It's either the battle rifle or the assault rifle depending on which game mode you play It's like that seems like a healthy compromise if you want a dual wield you need to drop one of those weapons Um pick up one that can be dual wielded and then pick up the next one that can also dual wield um And unfortunately one of the big I think one of the big problems with halo reach was that dmr starts are insanely prevalent Which means that almost all of the weapons on the map are just like don't pick them up Why would you you spawn with the dmr? Which is almost a power power weapon Yeah, I feel like yeah dmr was a little too powerful compared to like the battle rifle is powerful But uh the dmr was incredibly powerful Yeah, it was a five shot and it was long range and it was I mean it was too good always I think I think what helped the the battle rifle is the fact that It was possible to miss one of your three shots And it's really important to land all of your shots on the head Whereas with the dmr, it's just like yeah bang bang bang bang bang dead Whereas with the yeah, it's five shots to kill the dmr and only the last shot has to be a head shot That's right. Whereas yeah with the uh with if you want to kill somebody with the battle rifle All three of the last shots like from the one round have to uh Have to hit them in the head. I mean halo three is incredibly well balanced Um, I don't I don't know that any game comes close. Halo one is not really balanced at all. Um halo two is Better, but uh that game has some problems with balancing But again, it's pretty good three is probably like peak balance reach kind of throws it off a bit with armor abilities But it's still decent And then four just loses the god damn plot Or it's just off the rails Yeah, I I remember when uh, I played four I was still on uh playing xbox at the time And that game was just Oh Yeah, I had some fun in it, but there was a lot of stuff where I was just like oh this just this don't feel right Bad maps bad design Fundamentally, I think I think that game is uh, I know we've had talks about this plenty rags I think we probably disagree on it. I just don't think that um I don't think that you should let people choose their starting weapons in uh in halo Well as long as you go into the game with that as your design philosophy and you prepare for it And you design around it then uh, I guess what i'm saying is I don't think that it's fundamentally a bad thing In any game because I mean cola duty does it like that It's kind of it calls for a different philosophy for sure when it comes to the way that the game is designed I think the problem with halo is that the sandboxes builds around very distinct weapons Weapons that are functionally unique whereas in cola duty Like there is a difference between the battle like the assault rifles, but ultimately the only difference is Yeah, when you die Yeah, when time to kills are low and there generally isn't too much of a difference Um, you just kind of go into the game thinking what do we want to actually have do we want to have a game where everybody spawns At equal same powers same abilities. They spawn with the same weapons And so the the the balance comes in with the map design and weapon placement on the map Or do we want to give players the option of choosing between a couple different loadouts And keep that in mind with how and where we populate the map with weapons and spaces and lines of sight I think layouts I think the layouts from reach was probably the way to do it because uh that way the developers can like They can pick the combo um, and they can pick how they pair that combo with um an armor ability And so it I think I think in a game like halo giving the developers a little bit of control over the parameters is um Is important whereas in call of duty. I don't think it matters or battlefield In fact, I think those games kind of emphasize the idea of build your loadout build. Um, yeah, absolutely There's a lot of different viable loadouts and A lot of it they are so generally loadouts will be similar enough to one another that it's fine And you don't have to worry about it In a game like halo though, you just got to be careful. You just have to decide at the beginning What do we want to do? All right, this is how we're going to design the whole game around Mm-hmm Like you could choose your loadouts in doom 2016 multiplayer and that worked really really really well So it's just oh, yeah, I love the doom doom multiplayer. It was great. I got I um After they did a bunch of updates to it and all sorts of stuff and I played the shit out of it And I max ranked and played it a bunch That was one of my biggest problems with um doom eternal is that they just removed the multiplayer from 2016 It was a really good fun arena shooter I think uh people it was not well received. I know total biscuit wasn't a fan of the doom multiplayer I just shamed. I know they've added deathmatch back in with um with like the dlc and stuff. I just don't know if it's um Oh, I had no idea. Yeah, I don't remember the audience as well for a pro war against the the All the modes where they were interesting modes everything from Capture the flags to just elimination modes to demon hunting modes um A lot of different, you know viable weapons that you could use the maps were really cool really well designed Um, there's interesting, you know little abilities and powers. It was very very reliant on good shot placement and movement Uh, it was really I really really liked it. I liked it a whole bunch Was that freeze tag that's right chat. Yeah told us this issue mechanical or is it like Um, I don't know. I think I think what it came out. It wasn't nearly as good And then they did a lot of work with multiplayer of rebalancing or things like that. I'm not sure I remember that beta was garbage. So that might have been a factor Let me let me I forget that his channel is still up. Of course. Let me see what he talked about I kind of shoot this open I know that we're caller duty comparisons, but I don't know what the substance of any of those arguments I think that was um I mean he made a video talking about doom's campaign and how much he loved it. Let's see if I can find uh Oh, now I'm just like nostalgic for um, seeing the thumbnail for wcf is uh Oh Yeah, he only covered the beta I think Ah Here in his voice again. It's such a huge inspiration as a content creator he was Foundational for a lot of what like reviews look like probably at least for a lot of people Yeah Bedrock for um, a really good review reviewers on That form I think. Mm-hmm. Yeah Fuck james bond the original long man What? Because there's loads of james bond movies. Is that why? Yeah, leave him alone. He didn't do nothing I guess he did lots of things. What is the point of this thing running around? Can I jump on it? Hey Looks full Any particular idea as to when you guys will be able to work out an efab with razor fist and what movie game media Etc. Do you think do you guys think you do? Well, I've tried to contact him on like At least once on like every platform Um And I've gone nothing yet. So I don't know Uh, if he wants to come on he's welcome to and you know, I'm sure it will be hard to find someone to talk about I wasn't supposed to grapple there. Oh wait, I have to grapple don't I? Cool, you know, this doesn't look like a very good grappling hook Who's my um Like a mobile Looks like it's gonna be difficult to oh, I could have gone up there too Oh, you're grappling hook as a phone. Yeah, I haven't used it yet. I don't know what it's gonna look like I'm assuming it comes out of the little like antenna. Can you it do it? Don't don't leave me on the edge of my seat here. Oh right. I'm totally gonna do it Soon as this little dude gets me over there. I'm gonna use it You guys won't be ready for how much I'm gonna use it That's an odd way to hold a phone Well, is it an odd way to hold a grappling hook? Because like your fingers aren't anywhere near the buttons on the phone, you know Your thumb's just up there. Oh, oh my god You just reminded me of suicide squad now she holds the phone. I'm so excited the screen I'm so excited see this that's a wrap I did it so excited. Oh That was interesting I like the the antenna is actually a grapple that you can yeah I'm James Bond, baby. This is the kind of shit. You can only do if you're him Much like awkwardly not spamming jump gadgets gadgets gadgets Let's not wish as he was as cool as James Bond. Come on He is the man who can in fact climb anything can he though? He climbed into my heart Grappled into my heart You know, I'm sure his head is going to climb back onto his body Let's do a side sport too um Honestly, I thought oh wait, I read that so guys with the youtubers becoming oh, no I read that one too Wonder Woman 1984 is what happens when you let someone hijack your production Make the most heavy-handed anti-trump movie ever Uh, what do you mean hijacked that was like her vision that was the director Like that was her vision if her goal was to make it anti-trump. I don't fucking detect it She could have done better than that. Yeah Way better Very max lord is like the only unironically good in parts Yeah, if you like see I I I showed how bad trump is by showing max lord Max lord was like the best person in the film Yeah, your protagonist was like borderlander rapist So might want to rethink that one patty Though I'm not a filmmaker. What would I know? Yeah Hey meme repo you and the rest of the efab gang need to watch justice league apocalypse war for efab movies Just for the hell of it and the funnies I had a really big rant on apocalypse war in my channel basically to summarize The justice league flight of apocalypse 90 percent of them die the rest get mutilated horribly Then you got a like a 90 minute plot that doesn't make sense Then flash reboots the universe and raises all the past 19 films All right, that sounds shit. So they just it is really shit They wanted to be edgy but without any consequence and then they didn't make a story like it is the edgiest film I've ever seen in my life. It is disgustingly edgy. It is edgier than man of steel It is edgier than zack snider. It is the edgiest edge. I've ever edged Dude, there are people shooting at me and then this is this guy chilling. Look at him. You don't care They actually make dark sides omega beams weaker so that he can do more bloody deaths with them. It's really retarded His omega beams, how does he make them go the way that he wants them to you know? I think it's just um I believe it's just like uh, um more like uh, he just controls them with his mind or something. Um, all right I'm not sure if there's like a larger mechanical as well, you know, but they're just kind of cool It's like look they're lasers, but they like bend partway through the thing I think it's like part of a larger like there's the omega force Like so it's like uh, that's the source of his power and that's like an extension of the source of his power or something like I don't know Um, I was doing some I was thinking about how to make dark side a little bit more interesting And I realized he actually has three sons and his wife was like killed and he had to kill his brother in order to Take his power. So I'm just like you could do some game of throne stuff with that. That's an angle. That's certainly an angle. Yeah Yeah, and his Motivation isn't actually to eliminate free will it is to make sure he is the only will which means you could have like a back story Where he's like someone who hasn't had control Maybe he was slave or something You know, yeah, and whenever he was ignored like things went wrong and then let's make him sympathetic Yeah, like let's have him be like I want to have the will You know so that I can will all things to be awesome Not realizing that maybe like the whole point of life in general is that um Is that there is good and bad and it's up to individuals to have the free will for themselves to like, you know, decide their fate And he just can't accept it. And so you have to kill Oh, no, yeah, and This guy was chill. I think his dark side isn't even his real name because he was born usax Um in dark side was like a title and I'm thinking how do you make that? Not Like just an edgy title he took on it was just like well What if he became like known as the dark side to like because he was a conqueror or something and that's something he embraced Have to work hard to make it not cringy Yeah, I like to think about stuff like that just um how do you take these things? Oh, and here's how in here's max law and wonder woman's interaction in the comics Oh, yeah, that came up on on our stream. We we showed that Yeah God breaks his neck. Yeah, the apocalypse war thing. That's uh, some of the stuff the patrick willams is referencing, right? And his whole stop being R rated superhero stuff. That's me. I just hear people don't like it. I've heard it's just like Torture porn It is it is. Well, he showed a clip of wonder woman's getting her arm ripped off and I was like, um Okay, that's the opening of the film All right Yeah, that just sounds like how you wear edgy. We're like we're for adults too Yeah, and there's like the first time you see, you know, uh, you You people have a vague awareness of the teen titans, correct? Like, you know So we open so the first time we see titans tower Most of them are dead and we actually get a very graphic shot of star fire cut in half with their guts spilling out Really graphically on the ground happy go lucky character Yep, and then she gets brought back later as a horrific mutilated cyborg thing um And nightwing gets stabbed through the chest uh to protect damien and then damien puts him in the Lazarus pit So he goes insane I am All right, then This just sounds like edgy. This sounds like something a teenager would write. Yep. Yeah Oh, and here's the best part so they capture superman, right? And they give him a liquid kryptonite tattoo on his chest in the shape of the house of l Shape and it goes all through his veins and even has green eyes And this is to take away his power so he can walk the earth inspiring despair And i'm just like motherfucker. That is green kryptonite. You should be dead You you should not be alive right now because it is in you right now Oh Oh and they brainwashed batman into killing three billion people. Oh naturally This sounds like the worst thing ever. It is I watched it out of curiosity. I wasn't ready You weren't ready for the cringe. I mean we can yeah And they tied into the flashpoint movie as well They tied into the flashpoint movie as well, which people generally like It's got tizmy plot, but it's kind of fun, but this one is just like it does everything Is that flashpoint paradox? Oh Oh, yeah flashpoint paradox. Yeah, I've seen that one. I remember liking it Yeah, so they tie it into that and undo everything that happened at the end of that film It was fun while it lasted sorry lads and in fact the ending of that film might lead directly into apocalypse war timeline wise Everyone with that symptom. I swear my guns just don't work sometimes. Maybe they don't follow the crosshair. I don't know I know I shouldn't opt for sniper, but if it can reliably work in that scenario, it'll be useful Wonder woman once happily worked at a taco bell and has done a lot of humanitarian work in the past Working at a taco bell is the opposite of humanitarian work. Hey Leave taco bell alone. Surely they have tasty things. We don't have a taco bell here So we don't I can't relate to the struggle Oh, yeah, I actually put a clip from apocalypse war in the home alone video Which is trigon taking over superman's body and then becoming super trigon and then fighting dark sider But then um, but then lowest lane explodes herself as in a suicide bombing So the trigon gets expelled from superman's body and he grows back as costume in his powers and fights dark side And that's when cyborg who has become a wall Decides to get everyone out of there as trigon who is manifested into a corporeal form fights dark side and then cyborg opens a big old boom tube to Bring apocalypse into another universe or something and then he has he literally says I have the final word but instead of saying his catchphrase booyah Which he already said at the beginning of the film indicating that they're going to Begin and end with his most signature phrase. He instead says sucket bitches and explodes the planet Oh Okay, that is not a wonder if is it are they doing this on papers like Are they trying to oh Yeah, oh and there's another thing so john constantine's in the movie And he's basically just a gary stew whose magic does anything and everything including something called techno magic Which allows him to interface with cyborg and free him from mind control And then he gets like neps neck snapped by super trigon But then he goes to the afterlife and meets the tana who he's dating at the time And he says no no no you're not going to die because destiny's not go is not done with you yet So john constantine comes back to life because destiny didn't want him to die. Okay Okay, I mean that follows, you know, that makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Can't argue with destiny really bad sounds like awful It is it really is Um, but yes, it's funny. You mentioned the home alone thing. That was the the first different movies you've edited You won't be seeing that till christmas everyone So get excited Christmas movie it's the gates the rules to release it early. Okay Yeah shooting me and why i'm james bond Top it Will I survive no i'm dead um Me repository your voice make me so horny. Why the fuck you make us read text in efat movies You should just narrate it. It would be a lot less immersion breaking I don't know about that. Well, funny thing the notes in the justice league one are going to be Narrated because um, I only made them text because I didn't know if it would be too Intrusive for this strange voice to come out of the ether and start explaining what superman is So I wanted to pull into that and see if they liked it or not um Yeah, because I thought the whole point was that you can nail doing commentary while showing context and clips and stuff but Yeah, that's that's one of those things where um, I think immersion could be broken on either side with that one Yeah, it's a it's a tough and I I've gotten like It's it's hard to tell what overall people want, but I've kind of just listening to the feedback. I've seen That makes sense. Mm-hmm People like their um the dc factoids Yeah Well, we just sit there and go um, that didn't make sense right there. That was dumb and Jolly Richard Uh, here's this essential bit of context that they cut that made everything good ECEU luther movie idea While a contracts lex to develop a weapon to fight superman lex spends billions of dollars a month of time developing weapons superman just breaks Lex grows to hate superman because he had to work for everything and gave up his morality to get where he was While superman never had to work for his power I thought the um what I heard was like lex hates superman because lex can never be Like like superman outdoes humanity at its maximum potential and that's what lex Has an issue and takes issue with him at least in some iterations Uh, yeah, that sometimes is um his motivation and in fact, um often there will be the interpretation that lex considers himself the peak of what humans can be and superman has Exceeded that so there's a part of him that is really jealous of that But he would never admit to himself that he's jealous. So he's um Got that subconscious motivation Some good stuff in the all-star superman about that There's some interesting things you could do with him, but I really do think we should try and just make him He was beaten by his dad and thus hates powerful people. Um, and then fuck that up somehow to god. Yeah, you know god sucks edgy internet atheist Also dark side come and fuck the earth, please. Yep. Let's you can't escape that one Nobody's ever gonna fucking justify who likes this movies. He you know, he intended for it to he's he it Shut up Makes sense if you don't think about it. He's like, ah What I like about the twin perfect video is it actually made it dumber to me because I always interpreted it as oh lex Pressed the wrong button and accidentally contacted apocalypse to come to earth or something like that while he said no He intentionally contacted apocalypse to I think you should throw that out because even he said like he might just want to destroy the world. It's like Excuse me Why would you say this? Yeah What a stupid thing Bigs it's so much worse Please don't kill me So good dark night trilogy efab movies when um, I don't I don't know if that one would work uh You know Potential for anything in this world. I'd say We did lord of the rings that worked out and I said we could even end up doing it again We've never even done a tlj on efab movie someone mentioned they wouldn't mind seeing that someday Commentary right with uh, yeah, oh Yeah, yeah, I did a commentary but never did any fat movies, which by the way, you know, the efab movies has replaced that essentially it's um Funnily enough, it's easier to edit efab movies than it is the fucking audio commentary It's getting all of like the screenshot changing the pacing to match the entire film with limited gaps and then getting interesting Uh copyright free music to fill in for gaps that And then making sure there's like conversation points like all that shit You don't have to do and somehow efab movies are more entertaining. So what what can you do, you know? Hmm and it it fills the slot because I there's some movies I'd like to watch and talk about that don't fit into normal context Like we got lucky with underwater that just I don't think we even plan to talk about it. It's just that someone linked the filamento video and I was like, what the fuck Like we must defend its honor Like it's just it should have been like alien, but it's a really bad knockoff of alien. Okay Also fuck aliens Uh, mando season three will be hard reboot. Uh, that looks like of reboot Looks like soft reboot. I think they didn't use any really um reboot of what like the whole universe or just Re re establishing what the fuck their show is even about because the first two seasons aren't anything really It can go in pretty much any direction that they want to like they've got a clean slate baby yoda's gone So it's like they can essentially invent whatever premise they want now Yeah, as they've said, um It might be about mandalore, right and it's like yeah, maybe I'm guessing that's what it probably is going to be about But the funny thing is it's like, oh, yeah, what else could it be about? It's like, well, that's the only thing we've got to go on like that's it so I don't know I guess we hope it's that because what the fuck else is there? um About my precious chat enjoyed Wanda vision because fridays became a date night with my soon-to-be wife, but I think the show is really bad hi rags hey um, yeah can happen, uh I guess they were trying that might be the person who said the whole objective subjective thing They like it because it reminds them of good times But uh, it itself the thing is pretty bad. It's like, yeah Uh, wasn't it a comparison to battle of the bastards? No, I'm pretty sure if we're talking about game of thrones the um They said that it's gonna beat out helms deep as like the longest battle or something And there was this implication that like, uh, get ready to be you know, like You're gonna helms deep will be replaced in your mind that sort of thing Yeah Like took place Invading force so it's like, yeah, that's what people were propagating and they were completely wrong Man helms deep is probably I don't know if anything's ever gonna be quite as good as helms deep It is such an incredible battle with the way it's structured and put together and filmed and the lighting is Oh, yeah So it begins Hmm I hope spider-man homeless is good I I do too Oh, yeah, I put some visuals from apocalypse war and the thing if you're curious Well, you know what I'm not against watching out for you felt movies sometimes sounds like it'd be really funny laughing at It is fucking hilarious kind of I think it's been sad for a DC fan. I imagine Yeah, oh, it was just it was so ridiculous. I was both laughing and Furious at the same time I could use the grab it. Oh Oh, I knew that would happen Oh, by the way, they have new parademons that are crossed with doomsday called paradombs. Oh Paradombs that's I just think that's really cool and you guys are just nitpicking. That's what I think Parade I like goofy superhero names and even I thought that's bad Paradoms like what the hell is this? Um Molly seriously need to play double seven everything or nothing It's a game where willem defoe is the bad guy apprentice of the villain played by christopher walkins super unreacted game um Those things alone Make me think it would be great, but uh, I I'm pretty sure I have played that I'm pretty sure I played all the bomb games on gamecube. It's um I forget the names of them agent undefy is another one. I think You said that like those names like his name agent under fire Well, it's the name of the game Yeah, no, but the way you said it Yeah, it could be his name instead of saying agent under fire. You said agent under fire Like his name was under fire the agent. I think yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want to misrepresent the game You know, it could very well be that's a shot at agent with undefy. Yeah Hey, look at that. It feels like I'm playing mom warfare 2 or something Have you ever watched a tv show called heroes? Yes, I watched all four seasons One was pretty awesome and I'd like to revisit it sometime to see if it holds up Yeah, two three four falls apart completely and nobody has anything good to say about them They were rough to watch as a fan And major lost potential that show was really cool A whole bunch of normal people getting powers all at the same time all the different characters and motivation The main hero was someone with the power to essentially duplicate powers He was near and the drama would come into him duplicating powers without necessarily wanting them and not understanding them and obviously That gives you a lot to work with Yeah, whatever I don't know the ducks, but uh, it looks better than that. He looks not hot Devon looks hilarious. I don't know. He is literally edgy. He is edgy and on it That knife skin just it looks so unnecessary It honestly looked pretty crap from someone like the clip cc. He looks pretty awful Um, it's it's funnier almost than the original one Yeah, because the original one it's like the CGI was bad and the design not fantastic But at least it was like plate armor. You could see The through line for certain It didn't take me out of the movie That was like a bad guy. I'd say he looked generic and just asleep He was just like whereas now he like actually doesn't look like a real thing Like I don't he doesn't look like a thing. I can't believe him. Yeah How does he take a piss? I don't know. How does he do a lot of things? It's all nanobotty like it all it's like the eyeman suit. It all just appears on and off him at will Do you have horns for a head though? What's he doing with that? That's his species you specious Are they all so when they're given birth like they're gonna push that out What is the function because it looked like tumors on his head and not horns Maybe they are tumors Why did you hate? Why are you hating? Honestly, the fact that they point backwards is almost like an evolutionary disadvantage If they were pointing forward, I could get it, right? But if they're from the back someone can just grab you from the back, right? So are those horns morality? Yes I guess what I'm you know what I mean like a bull has the horns at the front So like if they charge you they can punch you Whereas he'd have to turn his head really far down and run towards you And he'd probably look like a retard as he's sprinting towards you I feel like if he breathed in he would just impale himself Yeah, well like he Was he tilted his head back or? Yeah, imagine if somebody snuck up behind him and he accidentally was starved and stabbed him in the heart with his horn I don't even know how the heroes can fight him because I feel like they just cut themselves If they even tried to touch him that makes sense Let's say half the armor man. It's so that no one can fight him. It's invincible He also has like muscle car nipples because his front plates look like he took like two like the bumper of two Muscle cars and stuck them on its pecs. It's strange He goes just hate design He goes hate design Oh, yeah Which is like most of the dc I like how cyborg and justice league like had a decent design for like three seconds in his last shot Where he was yeah, he looked great in his level. He looked fine in his last shot. Um Before that he just looks he looks incomplete, which I guess might be sort of the point, but it just Yeah, like the human eye does not like busy Designed with so with a bunch of different lines everywhere. We like we like smoother designs with distinct shapes and everything It's why michael bay's transformers designs look really really awful because there's just you can't remember them beyond stuff this And um, also the and because both the decepticons and the autobots had um Like spiky designs and our brains see spiky as aggressive our brains process both sides being villainous because That's just how our brains work. Well a decent designer would have like very smoother like more rounded design Yeah heroes and yeah Out of the head shot needed more spikes is all I've learned from what you've said Yeah I think that's actually quite restrained compared to some of the stuff I've seen Disney character design right it's like um the heroes always have really soft features and the villains tend to have very angular faces Hmm York Thoughts. Oh, yeah The other thing I want to say about heroes was the I think that's a pretty cool setup for like a hero protagonist That in a world filled with people developing powers or one by one He absorbs them and has to deal with them whether or not he's um willing And it can create lots of different scenarios where that's going to be a problem the one the big drama is that there's a guy who is like uncontrollably energetic to the point of um if he doesn't control that he can like nuke himself, uh Which would be bad for the surrounding area, of course And um, I think at one point the season he ends up Coming across him and the drama is like will he be able to control himself without nuking and then the villain Is uh, I think he was called silo and his thing is that he could only get he could only steal people's powers if he like He had to like pry open their brains And look at the the way it was he's like obsessed with clocks and stuff and his his his thing was understanding mechanics But he has to like View them and so he desires he just wants more power So he has to kill people to take their powers essentially. I think that's how they try to justify it And now yeah, there you go. You got your hero You're villain and a bunch of other people who will fall on either side depending on what they want and season one I remember being pretty good for the rest of it is garbage What a shame So I don't want to go up here if I come never watched it the vibe coming back I mean, this is the thing I recommend season one, but for all I know season one is actually bad I just don't know It could be enjoyable at least or at least have redeeming elements while the others don't Funny, I've just never seen it because everyone says exactly that the like season one is great and then the rest of the show is bad So it's like wow like We're getting invested in that first season if it just crashes and burns. It's like, oh I don't know. This is the thing I need a reset. I don't know if it's worth because you know like one division in in the sense of like Look at this poor guy doesn't know what to do I wouldn't recommend one division even if I think there's good stuff in it And it's like so there's a sense of it can outweigh Like is lost worth seeing I think the first two seasons are lost are actually worth seeing It's unfortunate though because you'll want to continue probably and it gets shit um But you know heroes, I don't know if it's worth seeing season one despite how bad it gets I'd like to believe that there's enough in season one that not only is it worth seeing for enjoyment But to sort of be more examples of how to do stories like that I Think what killed heroes was the the writer strike as well Oh, yeah, I like killed a lot of strength. I'm unfortunately a lot of tdb shows were suffering because of that When do we get out of our current writer strike? um The thing we don't need to write 43 44. I think Don't even need a writer strike these days It's just terrible. I just need a sheet. That's what I'm going for Oh, yeah The mad lad jack thompson is going to Going to do the taken speech to you at the end of dankula's video. Are you afraid? Well, you should be because you're on okay I'll have to agree with the act man and say that free movement ruined halo, especially in halo five It's about the sandbox also too much hit scan in five I mean anything to you guys Um I meant the free movement part I was Curious what that is referring to I don't know. It's like so kind of like a strong word, you know, I don't know if that was the problem that I have with halo five I think uh, we're going to like sprint and like you can have rocket packs and ground slams and stuff. Um I don't know if it'd probably be done. Well, I just think you know three four three Even when they're trying are still very incompetent is unfortunate Reality, I don't think they're malicious. I just think they're really incompetent They seem to try and listen to feedback, but then they keep fucking Are an interesting developer They are Uh, doom 2016 snap map is still crazy and epic variety Snap map is like that. I think the map creation tools and stuff they have for it. Oh cool I like it when any game has Map creation. It's neat Objective just coming from photograph the laser prototype Done and done can I use it on people? Oh my god, I can oh I can laser. Oh, they don't explode Oh They just die. That's lame What's the point of using a laser if it doesn't tear their flesh in twain? Do no one can answer because there is no answer Anyway, we've probably been over this before but how do you guys go about criticizing a film that was based on true events? Like whether it's accurate or not Um, I think we engage with the same logic as historical accuracy storytelling rules Aren't applicable when you've adapted. Oh, sorry are applicable when you've adapted regardless if um I see if you want to appeal to like I guess you'd have to remain consistent also where the fuck is that coming from? Hello um I think I think we've talked to us before right? There's no Contrivances in real life It was always going to be a reason for things to have happened the way that they did You're simply going to lack the information to have known why that was going to happen and instead comes across luck It's a story's job to explain why it's not luck Um, and there's just events following circumstances. I would imagine I don't know if anyone else has input on this Ah, I got an added. What was the question again? So like the idea is if something um seemingly plot-holish or really convenient happens, but it's how it happened in real life Uh, what's your response to that in terms of criticizing it story-wise? I'd say the if it's a biopic or something you've kind of Take a wild guess and what happened to fill it in even if you're trying for historical accuracy Just because you have to create a coherent narrative um Yeah Um, I'm I'm honestly not really certain I don't think I have a hard stance really either way. Um, I guess I would default to Kind of just saying wow like you know that sure was lucky for our protagonist Rolls the eyes carries on And then if I'm like but ranks I happen to john smith in real life Well, john smith is a cunt All right, she fuck john smith He's got like gary stew. I kind of like john smith, but I understand your attitude. I do he's got his he's got his moments He's got his moments. His parents could have been a bit more inventive with his name though How do I Destroy door with c5 with mounted laser on cowl. Oh this mounted c4 on a door. Why? Because That's right. Is it that that's where you keep your c4? Oh, I guess Oh my god, I did it I feel like this laser is dangerous. That's probably what this campaign's about What simpsons moment laser What simpsons moment deserves steamed hams level meme status also high rags Hi, I enjoy many steamed hams memes. Um I don't know if I've ever felt like this deserves meme status, you know about anything simpsons that already hasn't had that happen You have to go through like I'm because the chair is memed and that's hilarious Uh, it gives him sexual power. I don't know Yeah, I I'm not sure I'd have to go through it again to discover what I think it's like Hey, how come I don't hear more about this particular thing? Season one probably has some gems just because of the uh, you know, they're still figuring everything out in the animations Still a bit like Thoughts on diehard and high rag and fringy Hello, um thoughts on oh, I love diehard. Yeah, I love dying. Yeah every watch Yeah, watch christmas and I think it holds up pretty well like there's there's some problems But I think as a whole it's a pretty good movie I'm in favor of diehard Yeah, we could do any diehard fap Oh, you know, yeah Secret that insane those those would be more in the funny realm like especially to there's a lot of silly moments in that one You'd have like diehard as the christmas one and then you do the sequels like after that It was me barry. I chubbed you off at super speed Um, oh, I know what he's talking. It was me barry What's that I reference to Okay, so so do you have you seen the uh video of like reverse flash going Remember when you were kissing your first girlfriend and you came right as you touched your leg It was me barry. I jerked you off at superhuman speeds So it would look like you knotted it just a woman's touch. So it's that that um, I know that mean I don't know. Yeah, I feel bad. I've seen Yeah, the the joke is that yobat thorn is a villain is just so petty and because he can't kill the flash Because he would erase himself from the timeline. He just goes around the flashes timeline fucking with him in every way possible so it's like Remember that time you stubbed your toe and you were limping the rest of the day It was me barry. I moved the cabinet at superhuman speed just enough to be imperceptible to the eye But just close enough to your toe. So you would jab it slowing you down so I could kill iris in three years or something like that or You know, I am every come you've ever had barry or the latest one was um It was me barry. I forced them to draw lola with less sexual features So you wouldn't be horny Slowing down your blood flow and slowing you down just enough So the you would be slowing up so I could kill iris or something like that. Um, but you're that last one But it's yes that kind of mean All right, well I get it now You think anyone will dine snide a cut? Yeah Yeah, I'm predicting like Yeah, my prediction is that If they're going nightmare future and it's not just the dream this time and it's actually the future We might get like a mind controlled superman killing the justice league or something and then he's barry us to go back in time Like I think it's all certain. I'm pretty sure there have been like leaks and stuff that have already suggested that that's what the plan is Like it almost is a cop out right because it's not real Yeah Yeah, I just think it's funny and that just sounds so snider, you know, just have superman murder Everyone under dark side of mind control and conquer the earth more like I think it's worse than that. I think he's sad that lois is dead. And so that's that's just superman He loses the plot every time judge it once it's out God You guys you guys are mean snider do anything to you Yeah, see that silence through his movies. Well, I mean like You know, I'm sorry as a cool dude, but I just don't I don't think he makes good movies. Wow He's nice in person I'm not sure but I'll give him the benefit He seems to have less accusations than other people. So I assume he's doing something, right Must be on on on top in some way Yeah, he didn't rape anyone. Yeah, that's I can say that probably maybe I don't know Lex is most of the comics hates superman because he hates that earth relies on him instead of achieving its true potential and lex leading earth all right Sometimes I presume it's you get lots of them over over the course of all of it, right? Like what's the difference Lex is Yeah, well, that's a fun part about comics because even like the mainstream version like you go from writer to writer to writer and everyone has a slightly different idea of what the character should be and sometimes you get like really cool and interesting interpretations that like Um forever become classic beloved stories. And then other times, uh, there's red and blue electric superman Um, which is really fucking stupid Sounds good to me Game of thrones Uh, go ahead. What do we want to say? Oh, oh, I was just going to mention There was also a time where a superman could shoot a little rainbow beam that would create a miniature version of himself Oh That sounds useful I think anybody that hates that hates fun. That's what I think. Yeah, that just sounds fun Why is it a rainbow beam? Is it because his miniature version is gay? Yeah, I I think well pink kryptonite makes you gay, but um, I'm pretty sure it was like alien technology He found he had the powerful one issue and then they forgot about it for the rest of time Um, because it was the silver age and they were doing ridiculous shit all the time And that was like the time where they were the least willing a little tiny version of himself That would be funny. And he has a high pitch voice. Where did you turn on the phone? That would be top tier Gosh so many bad guys Wow, uh game of thrones about the bastard's replacing helm steve is wishful thinking This goes beyond a bit of that I'd say. Yeah I'm thinking it's a delusion Let him dream that's what I say let him wishful thinking was our hope that one division would be good. That was wishful thinking. Yeah Those were good times. But now we are doomed um Oh, Morley, I just talked to someone interested on twitter and promised him to tell you that rob aka cinematic venom is interested in becoming a guest on here Well, wonderful. Um Not sure, uh, timeline where we'll fit it in but I am I am on board me to Find something that he's got an interest in and we can have an e-fab Yeah, definitely. I destroy the camera Oh Can I use my watch laser to deactivate it? me Laser watch laser watch. What good is a laser watch that doesn't deactivate time? Yeah Yeah, yeah That's something I'd say like if it doesn't you know Tell time that it's it's just a laser It's not a laser watch. Mm-hmm. Just kind of looks like a watch Oh my goodness. They've got one of those things. I remember them in multiplayer. They were uh, they were a butt These are watch watch your lose All right hack Grapple laser. Where did my hacking gear go? That would be useful right now video game Oh I'm way behind right now, but the constant making fun of diversity and heroes is getting annoying That's not why the show is bad. Stop inventing enemies Um, I mean it's it's I I wouldn't go so far saying that there's never a case to be made in terms of um Pushing um for certain Sort of ideologies. We've always been in favor of that being a thing It's because like you get explicit uh comments of that from makers, but What I think is bad about it could be a result of that kind of thinking So I'm not too concerned because I'd rather just point out what the bad thing is But uh, I don't think there's no argument to be made. I mean Bring it. I've talked about this the whole like What if in like a few years we end up with that all female avengers because they Decided now is gonna be the time where they just arbitrary like invent a whole bunch of hyper powerful female superheroes It's just like what the hell happened here It could be good It could be good, but the motives are kind of screwed and I would go as far as Skeptical saying if they were all fantastic like if we did this dream today talking about how Wanda vision is one of if not the best content in the mcu and scarlet witch is gonna lead the mcu into like a really good future And we had to get an avengers with only girls. That's all incredibly well written and supported I would be if someone said like don't you think there's an agenda behind this though? I might actually say like well, yeah, but it's good though Like I'm more than satisfied never be derived from a question of what if if that's a priority then um it's almost like were you interested in telling a story or did you just You know what I mean or did you just want to say something Yeah, um, I know like being able to point out like oh this likely happened because they were forced They're trying to do blah blah blah. That's fine with me. I just I wouldn't want to end up saying something like it's bad because there's a black person in it That would be awkward No, you could like have a really good show that like is um happens to have diversity But because it happens to have say quite a few black people and maybe a gay romance in it People might may call it woke and they may be very stupid. You know, dude I'm going to pretend this is you in the game right now use silence You speak put a silencer in his mouth No, I said silence and I shot him in the back of the head because that will prevent him from continuing to speak It's uh, wow fucked him up I failed the mission though, so maybe that's the game's way of saying what you were saying was very valid. I don't know Maybe Can't tell these days the subtext, you know, it's all very complex Hmm also thoughts on south poo being compared to you wolf and rags Apparently, he's a discount vision of you all which doesn't make any sense lol I don't know about that. How do you People pick and choose like they go either one. They'll say like it's a rip off of mauler. He's a failed rags He's wolf 2.0 and it's just like which one is it dude? I mean, I wouldn't take him that seriously at that point. I mean, I was a rip off RLM for ages, but now I'm different enough I think that they just like no, you're just horribly bad and I'm like, all right I've evolved I guess Do I throw a grenade at this thing? Phoenix running grapple. There's a frag grenade. I had one of them, right? Where are you? Oh fragmentation grenade. It's called. Hey There again Did I win god? We've been gone 10 hours. Oh, it's a short one Yeah, yeah Three hours of sleep Oh, the main reason they took out dual wielding is because pole bear tone bear tone I don't know. I never liked it. He didn't want it in halo 2 or 3. He finally got his way and reach Oh, okay So he's I don't know that I like south bull, but he is a walmart brand wolf Oh, man Poor southpaw. What quality walmart product? No, maybe maybe I think many would appreciate that. You know what? Compare me to the wolf fine Hence how they feel about it But what is this voice acting sounds like low audio quality can be the rest. I don't know How bad was that scene if pole had them rewrite it? well I guess we don't know the full context of what Happened there. You know, it could be a tweak could be he was like nah Let's imagine the scene didn't exist and he suggested it or something Oof. I could believe pole's responsible for it when looking at the rest of the season just saying We did this level already earlier and they're making me replay it, but in a different context. This is saving them Battery power. All right, and that's unacceptable Halo did that a lot First one go back through it. This table is different. I will be tricked by you game um He'll a dragon tattoo awesome sword on netflix I love it. It's really good We talking both versions here or Uh, I haven't seen the swedish one. I've only seen the uh the david fincher film But that one was pretty solid. I've heard I've heard the uh The the trilogy made from in sweden wasn't as well directed like it's kind of it's it's a lower budget film So it's like it just There's there's some elements which are lacking as compared to david fincher's but I've heard there's still pretty good stories Fair enough Uh, I love wolf, but at least walmart's still open Oh is the idea there that they would take an open walmart knockoff than nothing at all, I guess There you go. That's a partial defense from the superchats themselves Steppenwolf in the comics is a dude in badass flaming armor the horns are a helmet What was snider thinking and where's his flaming sword? Do not know he has an electric sword, right? That's uh, does he electric uh electric axe Yeah, whatever that means What does it do? I don't know. I just shoot electricity. It's because that looks cooler. I don't know what the utility would be but Wonder woman. She shoots electrical death beams at aries electrical love beams of death Or death beams of love. It's so hard to keep the dceu straight. It's so complex You say that like it's not fucking genius Wrong with you. You just don't understand I mean, I could have come up with that. I'll say I'll be clear there Hmm. I'm disgusted with your attitude rags enough of this Be honest. You love it. Why can't why can't you choose to give love a chance? Yeah Bet you can't answer that one Love is shite. Wow Love is shite. That really tells us a lot about you, buddy Love stinks true Thoughts on thought theater thinking that popcorn with no butter or seasoning is greater than wonder woman 84 I feel like it's a pretty heart take based even what? Has this person ever had good popcorn by itself before? Plain popcorn like pretty much anything's better than wonder woman 1984. A plain popcorn's nice I like plain popcorn. Generally when I buy popcorn, it's it's also healthier to not have it in You know a lot of butter and everything. It's just it's just like It's just like corn that's popped. It's just a decent snack. I could have a little bit here and there You could leave it out and kind of just go at it in my folks they buy They buy kernels that's like this this Amish brand of popcorn that you can just buy and it's It's it's like eating air. It's so light Um, and it's got a very subtle taste to it But I love popcorn. It's one of my favorite favorite snacks and want to go to the movie theater I do not get it with butter. I don't want that stuff on my fingers And it's it's just it's a little bit drier because it doesn't have the butter So it's easier for you to sort of get in your mouth And it's better for you So like when back when I used to go to the movie theater years ago before that shit got closed Dad would always be like, all right Never does happen butter never get butter. I don't he doesn't even have to say it anymore because you know, I know But yeah, just um, yeah, I I enjoy oh and what about um, what about the uh Can't there popcorn that's got like caramel on it That's nice. Yeah, that's it's great You can get different little cheesy this on it sometimes too if you want to go wild but Or um, I'll have it with some some sea salt and black uh, some peppercorns in there as well Give it a little bit of a kick sea salt and black. Oh my god. What does that even mean? Go on yeah Well, I think I've said enough I'm getting really tired. So I don't want to go too long Uh, yeah, I guess it's considered I don't know horrifying to have popcorn on its own. I get a ti l I had no idea I mean the worst it would be is mediocre, which is still better than Wonder Woman 84 mediocre Yeah You would be hard pressed to make bad popcorn that was plain because generally what would make popcorn plain is just Haven't it be stale or it's just seasoned poorly But having it by itself seems like it's it's like a mushroom. It's really hard to fuck up a mushroom Challenge accepted I'll find a way I challenge you to overcook a mushroom I will over something it. I don't know what It's possible. You could just burn it. Yeah, but that takes a long ass time and you have to really Absolutely incinerate a mushroom to the point where it's not good anymore I'll find a car and instead of the rest to make my power carbon dust Actually, I can see how that works. So there's a lot of water in mushrooms in there. Yeah, there is Damn them right kettle corn kettle corn is delicious as well Love me some kettle corn. I remember correctly. You have that in the Great Britain. Do you have kettle corn? Oh, uh, probably I'm not sure if we call it the same thing um If I remember correctly all the recent dcam had a shared universe from flashpoint to apocalypse war a lot of it Was good, but fell off at the end How unfortunate I love your meme you're wonderful. Oh, oh you You guys see tonals the last of us to vid you should watch it next def happy praises the gameplay mechanics and themes And that the game isn't just about revenge Oh I've been hearing I've been hearing about tonal having a really bad the last of us two video First 10 minutes of it and it is very like in the realm of his older videos Where he uses a lot of flowery language and talks about the emotional depth and like how it affects as he goes a player It's challenging story. Yeah It's not very referenced based unfortunately look even god can miss. Okay I Just yeah, that's uh, you know last was to his garbage poopy. So, uh, well Hey, everyone's entitled their opinion chat. We've never challenged anybody here in terms of media preferences. That doesn't happen To suggest otherwise would be rude I just shoot these to death If grenades work then guns do right that's that's good enough logic Oh, can I just say oh I can disable them We're pretty evil right now. Why are we still laughing? I'm activate elevator override control and security center Uh, I'm crying now great editor more please You're crying. Okay Did you did you make some guy? He hated it so much you made him cry. Why did you do that? What's wrong? Can't have you making there's a lot to cry or sad cry. I need I need context people feel emotions No Terror fear sadness hatred regret shame Lots of that Ring on the shame People haven't taken the time to play an entire rom set collection for every console able to be emulated are disgusting. They need to rethink life so true That's like that's just what I said the other day I think rags was there right remember when I said that rags Oh god, that's that was explosive. Oh I died People defending one division by saying their theories are wrong. It's like the last Jedi defense They said the theories affected their view on the show Yeah, I I don't mind you not doing the thing I wanted you to do Really? Do I watch a film or tv show or whatever else? And it does the thing I wanted it to do as long as it makes sense though. Um, I'm mostly chill I really have never seen that someone's like I liked this movie because everything that I thought was gonna happen happened It's like I feel like No, I feel like most people want to be surprised. I want to be like this I was engaged the entire way through is really good. It had fantastic characters. It's not like I got exactly what I wanted. It's I've never seen that Someone in chat mentioned. What about uh, what about candy corn candy corn is nasty garbage I'm not the biggest fan of candy corn. Do not like candy corn. It's just too sugary and weird Greenery if you hit it here first Don't like it. Not a fan Don't enjoy it Anyway, that's not powerful Yeah, I know someone just mentioned it because that's corn in the name. So I guess I like what about candy promoting Oh my goodness That's not good. Our god has fallen be not like you like you Oh, no, so sorry Why is everyone surprised by tonal's take he said he thought joel made the wrong choice in last verse one I mean, yeah, that's because he's discus tonal's wrong I mean, I think he even said that he was like enjoying last verse too well Briefly while he was on here last time. So I think so not a huge surprise don't say rags What about popcorn chicken? Delicious. Love it. Oh, yeah, love me some good popcorn chicken I mean chicken is pretty legendary. I'm gonna be honest. I'm a big fan of chicken. It's pretty cool Tastes pretty good. Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna give chicken the award of I like you I'd hang out with you in real life Watch movies with you wouldn't want to go much further than that. I appreciate it, but I'm not ready for relationship Also southpaw is cool people be babies about it and just lash out because they miss wolf Um, I mean people lashing out at hosts on eFap. I don't know what you mean Never incredibly crazy nonsense. That's what I'm hearing. Fun fact stephen wolf is dark side's uncle Yeah, that's true. I would love to see the family tree. Yeah, I want to see him hanging out Um, yeah The cv threw me off cinematic venom. Oh my god, that looked odd, but okay I was a pretty chill guy and has a pretty neat redemption arc Anyways rewatching all eFaps for the third time now on 43 Uh, evan meme and fringy bathwater question. No So Well, the so the three of you can answer if if someone drinks the bathwater for another person Do they deserve to get herpes? Didn't we like Wasn't it like concluded that you shouldn't get herpes if you have like Someone's else's bath water like that's not even how that Oh, fuck that just address the question This doesn't matter You deserve to get it if you drink it I would say no, it kind of comes down to the definition of deserve though and what exactly you mean by that You need some parameters. Did you ask them and they said no, I'm herpes free. Yo, and then you drink No, the parameters are you you drank the water without concern for whether it was herpes ridden Oh Don't drink bathwater then Like an unwise decision, but like I don't know to clarify Do they deserve to get it? Yes or no, I don't know if it's whether or not you deserve it It's just more than like I don't think it's it. You know what I mean It's kind of like you don't deserve to have bad things happening for this like what did you expect potentially Like why would you do this? But a bad making a bad decision that results in consequences. I wouldn't need to exactly say like you deserve it I'd be more like well, you kind of you kind of brought this on yourself type thing right which is different to deserving I think We got two nos there a meme repository Um, it's a complicated question because I know a little statistic about herpes Which is that about it's apparently very common But only like a very small amount of carriers actually have symptoms So I guess if the stipulation is that you become symptomatic Um Uh, I don't I think it is a natural consequence But I don't think you necessarily deserve it because I don't know the person I just that's just one dumb decision that they have made so maybe they are an otherwise intelligent person I don't know so inherently. I don't think they deserve it I don't even think a person who is aware of the risk and does it anyway because they enjoy drinking bathwater deserves herpes Yeah, it's just like well all these like I don't know if I can handle all of all of these correct takes. Yeah, I know It's funny because we've had plenty of people. I believe wasn't it they started with wolf, right? He was like you absolutely deserve if you do that. Yeah, we had so yeah, we had people who were wrong Uh, but yeah, the uh, yeah, there are there are people saying yeah, you deserve to get herpes and I'm like Jesus I think yeah, it's it's uh, I think it's tangled in the idea of consequence like But what did you expect would happen? It's like that's got nothing to do with deserve Or I guess it could in some context, but you know, I mean Um Thought being a filthy little centrist pick a side. No, they did they did they simply wanted to add detail And that is okay Quick question meme you seem to be the sort of impressionist from what I've heard so far. What can you do some examples for a treat? Oh, um right on the spot. Uh, let's see Um, what can I do? Sorry, I gotta fucking clear my throat for that one That's um, I gotta have a clearer throat for that one normally that was meant to be Donald duck It was meant to be Donald duck, but that was oh, I wouldn't have even guessed that was the whole duck Yeah, that's the thing my throat is not in a position to do that impression right now For some reason I went to greg lids Yeah, yeah Yeah, I've got to actually warm up for that one. So I shouldn't uh launch right into it. Um Oh, let me moisturize my throat. I was gonna say you're up to 10 hours Don't don't feel the you know, you don't have to do what chat says you can you can total That's true. Um, I will I will uh I will delay this request until um, I'm actually in a position to do an impression which normally requires a little bit of prep work All right, then uh Tell me ma's husband to stop subjecting her to efap. I I did spot someone in chat said The my husband left this on his pc or something. So that's pretty funny Like stream of someone playing james bond night firewalls Horrible gremlin voice, you know, just I just I think The wonderful day in that household Uh, maybe tone only likes it because he loves women. It could be could be It could be anything to expect maybe he's been replaced by a fake tonal By a robotic and we have to save him on an epic journey um Oxides uncle can we watch totems vid? Please long man. I am so fucking done with last of us two until I have to go back To it in any way shape of form like I don't want to have to go through a long video going through all of its pros and cons We I don't even know that we have time we've got so many different eflaps to do the idea that we like restarted Last of us two one in in the blue I'll don't crash vagans. Please don't crash Oh See at vegas is crashing too like everything's coming coming down. Oh god. I'm worried. I'm so worried. Oh, no. There we go All right, cool. They didn't have control us control us control us Wow um I keep auto save set to like every 20 minutes or so even though it like creates an independent save file as opposed to plugin saving to the same one, but whatever Uh fringy australia wishes it could exist. That is all All right, what what sorry australia wishes it could exist. Do we do exist? We're a real country. All right. Oh, are we? Yes, even the residents aren't sure fringy That's that's their problem. I've been gaslighted into not existing. Okay. Yeah That's how you know it must be true um What's on the arkham games I am pro arkham games, but I haven't played them in a very long time I'll speak on that. I like them as well Haven't played them Radical centrism is on the rise. We must stamp it out Here on the alt-right podcast. We can't stand centrism. Fuck them On the alt-right leftist podcast They don't they don't know what they're talking about those centrisms Um, wait, I think that's it. We're actually I was gonna say it's probably a good time to actually sort of be like, okay, so that's Yeah One just popped in if you could erase one country and all of its people What would your choice be i'm leading towards france. What the fuck china easy france Why france? What are the friends due to you? um I I don't want to say mine's probably I I don't want to get into a political debate Yeah, I don't I don't know if if I had to actually make one Then I would probably want to do the minimal amount of damage possible Maybe like Nazi Germany For me, it's one of those things where I'd be like, oh, oh, it does that to be a modern Yeah, I thought the qualifier But also I would I would be worried I would be worried about the potential damage I do by removing any one country in terms of like a ripple effect Interestingly, um, I don't know if you anyone here knows about this But like one of the most famous doctor who's played by tom baker He uh in a particular story He has an opportunity to go back to when the daleks were originally created And if he connects two wires, he will permanently destroy them Um, but he struggles to commit to it and he starts to talk about how A lot of good came from their existence not in a bogey holocaust way in a way of it united people against them and so He wonders if he kills them What worse thing could happen as a result and that's that's like the whole thing about killing baby hitler people don't know For sure that that makes everything better It's super You're just you're wonder and then if you did it and everything somehow got worse you'd be like, oh, no Oh, I guess I'm fortunate just an arctic account It's a it's a qualifier though Like I don't want to delete the populace of a lot of countries You know what I mean like if I wanted if I wanted to delete the country It would mainly be like the the leadership or what it represents I don't want to delete all the people who are part of it. You know what I mean I'm thinking like if I had to choose a like maybe vatican city Well, now there's too much. Well I would have the least amount of people Well, I think I guess yeah, because if it means people getting deleted then I'm gonna get rid of some tiny little country But if it means just destroying the institutions and like some of the leaders Then there are different uh picks But again, I'm the I don't want to Yeah, because you have the you have the the balance that you have to weigh up in your head of like sure Maybe I get rid of less individual people But what about the impact of that country in terms of history culture economics things of that nature so Yeah, so even though so if you were to say if I wanted to blow up vatican city, which is the least populated But in terms of you know the culture and the history And its importance internationally and Yeah, because the problem is like Ie or somebody's like I want to delete China It's like a lot of like world history is very China centric Like if you delete China, you probably delete every country in the americas And at least does it exist today because a lot of the way everything why Those expeditions happened was because they were trying to find a faster way. Well, that's that's that already happened though. It's in the past Oh, yeah, but that's what i'm saying is if if the question means all of history like that that it's just like Gone then then you would be deleting a lot of other truths though I think it's just today if you were to get rid of one right Yeah, and then just see you from here, right? So like if you delete the country and then it's like everything just continues Yeah, I'm still not saying I'm keen for that one to be It's pretty apparently there's a principality of sea land which has a it's a micro nation with 27 people on it. I think um Let's see it is a the principality of sea land is a micro nation that claims h.m Fort roughs Also known as roughs tower an offshore platform in the north sea approximately 12 kilometers off the coast of suffolk as it's territory Suffolk Let's see I feel like this question is designed to allow more super chance to file in It's not recognized. It's not it's not recognized by any sovereign state, but it does uh, it does claim I guess it's it's sovereignty Jordan answer just the smallest one or the one that would wait so sorry. Are we all assuming you have to choose one? It's if right if you could just To could delete a country. I wouldn't personally. Yeah, because that's why I was confused like when people are saying I'd just go for the smallest one I was like wait, but why would you just go for none at all if you were trying to do the least amount of damage That was the only thing you were concerned about if that's an option, but if they're like gun to your head delete a country Yeah, I would go something obscure But honestly something for me is just that I'd be worried about deleting something like china for example I'd be like, oh shit. What happens if I do that is so huge Yeah, I feel like the world stage is gonna second most important country in the world And if someone was like, well, it'll alter for the better. I'd be like I feel like I can't make that decision I don't know But uh, maybe What if you could like delete a uh, a country's grip over a place that probably ought to be its own country? That could be interesting Oh, yeah, I guess Hong Kong would probably be an example of that or like, um, the other part of popwood new guinea So I saw somebody say popwood new guinea and it made me think about that like the other half I mean, it probably ought to be together, right? So having the island split down the middle What if you could like delete North Korea and then just have it all become unified as South Korea, you know, like Republic of Korea Like if you delete it and then it just gets absorbed into another country as opposed to I guess proofing nothing there Like if you delete the country and there's just nothing there anymore Your tears are my ecstasy fringled. I love your non-existent self Hey, all right, that's mean I you know what? I think you exist. I'll say that yeah I think I exist as well There you go two two non-existent existers But wait, there's more fringy is like 5d chess with multiverse time travel. You cannot change the past You just make a new timeline much love if happen chat you big lesbian. Oh my god Oh There are people saying like there's an obvious answer. There isn't you need to think about it a bit more like if you actually What do they think the obvious answer is I just be curious I think people saying the obvious answer is China and I think uh, I think it's worth thinking about a little bit more than just saying that I still feel like they would weigh on my conscience quite a bit. There's a lot of good people God damn The population of the globe are in China people That would have a huge ripple effect that would affect the entire world What happens to all the resources because China's got like 99 percent of rare earth elements Which are like critical to a lot of our digital infrastructure Is it a case of like the country as an entity stops existing but the land stays and it just gets absorbed into other surrounding nations It becomes a much powerful country I think the interesting aspect of the question is if everything in it just disappeared and it was just the land itself like like it was almost anything man made was just Erased suddenly and it was reverted to its completely natural state Man, there wasn't a country anymore. Like what would happen to the land What would happen to people going there? How would that be? You know divvied up who would claim it who would have the right to I feel like there'd be a massive war Over that land because that is some good land Yeah, there could yeah, there definitely could be um because it's not like yeah If I think it's much more likely that if it happens over there like I think if a If a a central european country or like some states in america that happen to I can believe how there'd be And political divvying up of things, but I think if china disappeared Over there. I think there'd be a lot of yeah fighting and I think there would be what's a massive power vacuum in that region massive power vacuum in the world in general um So that's like a repercussion you have to consider Like this is what I mean if somebody is like delete one of the most important countries in the world It's like uh, oh I'm no I feel like it's really hard to think about which one It would actually be but um It's just interesting seeing people be like it's obvious. It's this one and then somebody's like it's obvious It's this one and it's a different one Look, let's just get rid of america. They had their chance america had its jets And then just disappears the ocean fills it i will allow rags to pop over to britain before we engage though And then the canadian empire is born Oh, yeah Mexico and canada's gonna be like wonderably be like right gets america I want to i'm gonna move to the what is it in cyberpunk though like the republic of texas or something like that I'm gonna go over there and live like a free state of northern california or whatever There was one. I think there's one specifically for texas. Ah, right uh Let me don't uh The republic of texas Fuck yeah, it's basically just back to what it was before it got annexed by america At america always texas was annexed by america, right? It was like its own independent thing for a little bit and then america took it I think that's one of the biggest like bullshit lies ever is that america was uh An isolation estate before world war one. It's like nah, they were doing a lot of foreign policy Like in the 19th century I'm not sure why anybody would say that Let me hear on some songs Mola you're gay Since I said that I'm watching e-faps all over again, I'm gonna say it oof oof is still a massive orphan cost denier and avenue making vids Orphan yes, got a couple that I'm planning to it's a vids We'll be waiting hopefully I'm joe bighton. I forgot this message. Oh I don't know why that's in the superchats, but okay Good for you You got it meme good job superchata el tiati Yay, I'm sure what that regarded We're gonna pull up the the latest ones but freaking the Enemies keep pouring into this room. I keep clicking back Wait, sorry somebody somebody said isolationists from the eastern hem. How long was the philippines part of the united states? I'm really I need to know because this is Rags my spirit edible right there Yeah, I was like as much as I'd like to investigate the history of the united states Yeah Well, I'm just I Yeah, hold on hold on so spanish just write it down united states 1898 Eastern hemisphere, man. Not a factor in us foreign policy in the 19th century. Uh Well, yeah, let him know your history God damn. Oh my god, bring calling out chat Bring freeze fall from grace guys 1898 to 1950. Yeah, that's the 19th century Like the first two years of the 19th century. Anyway, that was before world war one and that was my point So you are wrong no matter how you got it. Oh my god Calling that wrong. Well, how could you? Chat's never been wrong. What are you talking about? It's time to wonder if the enemy's are infinite. I'm supposed to just run away. That's probably it Don't kill me, please Oh mission completely. There you go. It probably was Alrighty Um, Britain doesn't exist pretty well highly just with you how much closer is it to next video drops soon Very soon Britain accidentally recognized sea land sovereignty when they tried to get france to help them take it down after the cold war It's really funny. He he he all right If you had the infinity gauntlet, what would you do with it? I would make it so that australia exists fringy. Forgive me I don't know if anyone mentions me in these in these super chats I Will say fringy's been on a couple more episodes Few more maybe yeah, maybe why maybe that is maybe they don't recognize my alien accent Uh, and yeah as for Just if you have the gauntlet, then you're gonna want to try and just improve everything as much as you can right? That's just the standard Really careful. You can create resources Go for it. Thanos. You could have looked into this Uh Make california its own country so we can erase it. Oh my god I feel wouldn't like that erase like one fifth of your gdp as a nation. Yeah, I feel like you might want to hang on to it There's some elements It's the beach in there China doesn't have the rare earth elements. They are everywhere They are only rare as in there are no veins China makes most rare earth stuff because they are willing to destroy their wildlife um Why does china have all the rare earth hold on Apparently according to wikipedia. They have 95 percent of them Oh, it says major reserves. Okay, right some major reserves exist all over the world Major reserves in the world exist in china california india brazil australia south africa malaysia However, china accounts for over 95 of the world's production of work. Okay. Yeah fair enough meme give us a zoom impression to actually end The zoom impression. Okay. Oh, so that's just another name for reverse flash professor zoom. Um, oh Uh, let's see, um It was me berry I went back in time and nutted just as your father was about to finish So I in fact became your own father. It was me flash. I am every bad day. You've ever had there. I did it Nice I've never heard him. So I assume that's how he sounds You know, I'm just roughly uh China doesn't oh wait, I read that I got hairy legs that turned blonde in the sun The kids used to come up and reach into the pool and rub my legs down so it was straight. What? Yeah, that is weird quote We're all very aware of it. I think it's uh, it's one of those ones. You're just like, okay Uh, you are also free to say that canada doesn't exist for any lol. I only jest with you How much closer is it until your next video drops? Uh, yeah, I did read that one that one. It's it's soon. It's very close Like it's um, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel on this one. It's very close to being done It's the tragedy of man's reality living At the shopping mall with plans to expand to the galaxy drifting apart, but we're all leaving together Okay I I agree, uh, bring you still wrong about halo four Uh, no, I'm not The ever-growing war over halo four don't worry one day. I'll play I'm gonna be my next video Find out all of the strong arguments against you for any you buy Oh, but I have to read like 20 books on halo as well because they'll always be someone pulling from the books too So that's probably a massive project. I'm talking about the games Uh, I could I could but like the books are like considered hardcore canon at least like the ones that come later on I yeah, I yeah, actually, you know what you can't ignore the books because you shouldn't expect people to read the books to understand the games Bringing I don't want to get into politics also for me. Let me tell you about the us and philippine foreign policy Yeah, but remember i'm not expressing my On those That's not politics. That's facts rags. Don't worry. My facts are the superior facts If any address you I can save them you are welcome to go to sleep There are only three left But if any of them ask fringy something political we could be here for a while. I won't I won't talk about anything. All right, it's okay If we just got three left, let's just fucking nail these suckers. Let us let us go halo four was dog Do do and fringy was right Yes I mean to be fair man validation I mean to be fair meme. I'm sure australia doesn't have blue people there accent notwithstanding I'm also human mate. Forgive me. Uhu. Happy We only have green people. Well memes purple And purple people. Yeah I guess only we had a purple people eater Yeah That's how it would solve all of the problems evidence blue Zach halo four is trash this will always be your worst take your critique support also rags. You're a guest, right? You can leave anytime. Well, what anyone can leave anytime I've got a lot of I've got a lot of stipulations in my contract and I don't want to breach that and it would be It's just I'll just suffer now Uh night rags. Hello and goodbye. I hope you have a good nap Good night, and I will I will crash like a coma patient Bring any thoughts on one child policy What are you doing What are you doing I have no thoughts. Okay. All right. No thoughts. No thoughts on that. All right. All right, he has no thoughts on that. I'm colorblind and canadian. Oh, you couldn't see that. He's a purple man. Well, he is a purple man. Um This is just I guess there's lots of kinds of colorblind, right? Yeah, different all colors of the rainbow Uh thoughts on president franklin roosevelt Um, he's a dude. Wait. Oh, uh, uh, that's controversial. Nah, I I have no thoughts on f dr No thoughts at all. All right Uh rags, how many nails do you pull out of owl trees? Um One more time how many nails do you pull out of owl trees? I don't I figure they're in there for a reason. Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing Why would you want to pull out nails when they clearly serve a function? I'm not today raggy man All right. Oh, it's fair enough. My critiques are not poor you orphan Oh my goodness Ifaps guests should unionize. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I could And all the thoughts on megan markle, please Who's megan markle? She's uh, the you know, uh, how grow family. Oh, of course Fuck. I don't care There you go. There's my heart take. I don't give a fuck. Watch all the other people commentate on it It's very entertaining All right Well, just kidding. You don't have to well, you know, you got my thoughts. They are my thoughts. Halo 4 suck sack You're allowed to like bad game Okay, uh Adoption, thy name is zack gilbert Damn, everyone's gonna have to zap for his halo 4 takes Uh fringy 2988 Coming at you live once again through the Of the internet You know why I've been I've been walking today and I did it without So I want to be walking today. I walked all the way to the fridge and then I walked back I'm too tired to make witty jabs at boogie. Just look at his twitter. It's just depressing It's so much Um And lastly hey just wondering how is wolf as far as I know he is doing just fine And then another two came in Fringoyed tell me about the ban on anime import in ozzyland Oh, I have an opinion on that. That's stupid Banning anime Stupid, I think it's the right move. I support it entirely. I think The generate artwork society should have standards. Yes Erase them from his Friggy at least the ebius believed it Stop it Um Fuck me. Uh, I have parents that they love me. Zach is fighting back against the orphan claims Fringy, I remember you saying how much you liked john keratin as prime minister of australia his support for the white australia policy Only Fringy thoughts on Oh Stop Definitely 30% of my supers got missed have more golly I have tried to catch every single one. I swear. Uh, hey rags from texas. I am also tired. Hello to australians. They don't get enough love Oh, that's thank you. That's very nice of you. Thank you Um Cinematic venom doesn't deserve a redemption arc terrible writing and bad arguments on twitter. Uh, thanks Fuck, what does that say? I think something are all the same Uh, I don't you express that on twitter, but you seem pretty cordial in the discussion that we had. I don't know I might be seen to talk about with endless Um psych I made your look nice Zach that's your subjective opinion. Oof Uh mohler gas gas gas super chat real fast and for our Okay, i'm just gonna keep going fringy thoughts on emus vomiting 9 11 I don't know that that's can even count as a question 24 7 it's 9 11 Oh, fuck it. Here we go. Friggy you think by you think biden stole the election Fuck sake just move on All right Rags just keep popping up. I keep seeing things popping up on the screen Rags anime does have standards. We call it head tied in his art uh I I I suppose we could put a few provisions in the bill All right, we'll allow it only nudity is allowed if there ain't if there's no nudity in it It's not allowed to be imported Uh Thoughts on the holocaust Hollow coast I wouldn't want a coast to be hollow Yeah, that seems like it would be or maybe it's like a like a foil like a holographic pokemon card So you go out there and all the sand is shiny and obnoxious. Yeah, it could be Um rucka rucka ali. I mean to jew is that fringy song? I don't know what that is some of these aren't even english anymore like come on What am I supposed to do? I love how everyone's grabber is getting worse because they want to pump these out quit Um, I don't normally stay for superchats, but this great it's it's I'm actually losing the the speed battle Like they're coming in fringy. Is it berma or mayanma? I don't know. What does that even mean? Do you consider it Myanmar or Burma? Oh Oh, Myanmar. Wow. I I my brain is not working right now. Uh, yeah What are your thoughts on the linux operating system? I have I don't know. I know I have no Knowledge all I know is that it's I just know of it the most customizable and efficient That's all I'm aware of and I can't even support that claim. That's just what I've been told But it's harder to learn of course thoughts on israel I like I like these simple ones. Yeah Is they're quick the quick simple country You knock out the answer is all right if I was going to go to the middle if I had to live in the middle east It'd be in israel. I'm thinking Fringy thoughts on the stolen be careful with this next one because you might get clipped out. Yeah I don't I don't know if I don't know if you'd say that Yeah, yeah, that that's an actual That's a big old pejorative here. Oh I would have just read that out. All right Yeah careful Well, I guess you read that one already and it was directed to you. So there you go I guess you don't have much to say on that one Uh, it's just edgy take Uh, that's just like your opinion man Fair enough thoughts on corn in poop I mean just nature's way it would be really weird if you had corn in your poop, but you never ate corn. Yeah Yeah, it's just like there somehow it like grew inside of you and left You could put you could you could put corn in other people's poo As like a way to frame them for eating corn that was not theirs to eat I want to go to sleep. Also. Here's my thoughts on poo and corn. All right Now I'm re-interesting. Oh, so you could talk about what I'm interested in but when Lags takes one topic He wants to share his thoughts. Hey look. All right. Okay. All right Yeah Look next one's for you. Fringy thoughts on that boring show blind manna Shut up Well, that's a that's a take, you know Uh, Fringy thoughts on president Nixon's crookedness or crookedness. Sorry Nixon is a funny guy Then people gotta know if their president's not a as a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. I've earned everything I've got He's an interesting character Nixon Yeah, do you know he was based on a character from Futurama from Futurama? Yeah, I know And as we learned in the simpsons he made a deal with Ned Flanders I did a favor for you. Yes, master I made a deal with him. I like the idea that someone is bored and they're like I like this character from a tv show I'm gonna be them Okay You fucking people Uh, Fringy, do you condemn the white australian policy? I'm assuming Uh, yeah, I mean obviously Obviously that was a stupid retarded policy Uh, next Joe biden stole my birthday Yeah, it happens He likes taking birthdays. He does And I think keep going rags has an idiotic take on anime, but as he said I don't give a fuck about what james says So who fucking cares what I think back to drinking mvodka and wasting away. Oh Dude, there were still like 25 superchats like after that one No, we've got some good ones here. Um, no, I don't We've got uh I gotta scroll up now. I support the rags anime bill There you go. That's sensible. Yeah Um, we have thoughts on burger king's women in the kitchen policy. I agree. I totally agree If you want to be in the kitchen, they should have every right to be in the kitchen stay there as long as they desire I don't like women being kept out of the kitchen. That's wrong Existence is formless flowing like water. I believe in freedom and choice. I don't like the idea that women can't go in the kitchen Uh, let's say we have hen ties are art news to me but For those listening, he's he's spelled it hen h-e-n space t-i-e-s So I think he's playing off the words there So if you weren't paying attention, you might you know think that differently. Um Uh, bring me thoughts on memphis bass pro shop pyramid I don't know what that is. Is that so in memphis? There's a big ass fuck off pyramid Okay, I'm not making this up. I've driven past that on a decent amount of times Yeah, it's actually close to where I live It's like three and a half hours from me and if you're going to memphis you You always see the the memphis pyramid and it's a big wow bass pro shop stops and ducks unlimited Wow, all right. I think it's a nifty bill. I just don't see enough pyramids. So when I do see one I'm all for it. Yeah. I'm on that. It's a great shape. I'm on that too. Yeah Uh, let's see. We have dance you long bastards dance. He spelled bastards wrong though. Maybe he couldn't because of the superchats Uh meme repository. Do you enjoy certain art fringing comments on the geoeconomic complexity of the sentinel ease The north sentinel ease is their name That's true. They're the north sentinel ease of north sentinel I don't know. I don't know. They are. Yeah, they seem like an interesting bunch And uh, I just wanted to make sure we get that quick answer. Do you enjoy art any forms of them? You know, I think I do enjoy certain forms of art. Yeah, all right I just want to make sure we got that Uh, did rags catch a second wind? I actually kind of did with all of these superchats But remember we've been going for 10 and a half hours So like you gotta we've been going a long ass time and sitting here a long time I only got up a couple times to do stuff. Um Uh, let's see fringy thoughts on the state of palestine I like how this question was like perhaps the most complex political issue like The barriers presently you don't need to make it complex fringy, you know, just give a blip Just like, you know, if fringy thoughts Uh, we have well, maybe this will be a little less controversial fringy thoughts on the jews in halo Um, the next question is rags the dog that sneaks corn into your poo I'm a dastardly dog. Oh, yeah the highest quality of of Superchats at the so that was hypothetical. I will not I promise if you ever come to my birthday party I will not sneak corn into your poo. Thank you and say that you stole all my corn Uh, let's see. What are y'all's quick takes on the big Lebowski? Awesome That's a quick take. I don't think I've seen it. I don't think I've seen it. I've heard it's good though. Um Um I started watching it, but I was too young to finish it. So I need to finish it. It's very unconventional and It's it breaks a lot of what people would call writing rules Um But it's it's really awesome and it's a cult classic a lot of people it gained its popularity Significantly more so after when it was released. I think I'd have to check That's and you have 811 a poft spurt nuke ewok orphanages thoughts Uh I wouldn't want to commit to that sentence any position there I don't think there will I don't think there are any ewok orphanages because when the Death Star fell back down And landed on yavin 4. I assume it just nuked the entire civilization, right? But then again, they were partying on it and it was vaporized. So I guess we don't have to worry about that Maybe that's why they vaporized it so they didn't have to worry about that You know the why were the ewoks on yavin 4 acts with the fuck Endure Sorry, sorry. I was I I've been up for a long time Well, I'll tell you what I read the booklet thing and it said that in the explosion The pieces of debris traveled at hyperspeed and that's why they ended up on weird fucking planets What? Yeah, you went through a hyperspace. Wait, are you serious? Oh, yeah, I think it makes even less sense. They went through a portal Something because it makes more sense to just not think about it Oh Peace Let's say we have okay gang jokes aside. That was my last super chat. Thank you. I agree. Yes. Um Dr. Mihai Chik sent me uh rags photons or massless particles google it I see you also googled it and you stopped reading when you said that photons were massless particles And you don't understand what einstein established is the relationship between mass and energy So how about you google that and you stick that in your bathroom and smoke it Yeah, rags got einstein on his team. So yeah, don't fuck with ringy youth Uh, ringy, do you think tax money should go to transition surgeries in the military? Well, I've enjoyed it even when I've been wrong must love And so gender pronoun here worth every penny. Good night. Yeah, thanks. Good. We have a meme from springy running from reporter Oh Fringy thoughts on edwards snowden, uh, I have no thoughts carrot chunks in vomit and actually stomach lining cool fringy thoughts on centipedes versus spiders I feel like spiders win that fight. I think Dude centipedes are fucking nuts. Yeah, but like what if we're talking about like a giant spider like the size? Yeah The question the centipede question centipedes can be insane like I can see I think yeah, I think centipedes are all right. I can see the centipedes from like, you know, I think spiders have a chance though Maybe but I think that the I think centipedes have more like armor In stuff like the spider has to be careful. You know, I'd watch this battle though I would I would pay money and it's not like it's in a centipede with the way it could curl around and shit So like you don't want to get anywhere near a centipede Centipedes probably eat people probably in their off-time Existences is formless flowing like water Interesting thought rags has to sleep so he can ruin grandma tomorrow I'm actually going to see my grandma and family tomorrow for dinner. So I will be That's that's no no sleep fap Yeah, I see what you did there. I vote to mac army meme are a mods on moeller and moeller I don't know I think he's asking me to be a mod on the channels or something. I don't know Um, the way it works is if someone's being really annoying and no one can stop them in chat I just mod you at the time if you're a trusted person The thing is rags mostly can grab them if anyone's doing super naughty things or james He's often here to to boop the snoops. Um, so yeah, uh, maybe one day. I think it was james that sent that super chat actually I see Jesus Oh, all right, I'll continue trump closed the children cages biden put them back in just saying the next one Oi, did you just look me in the eye and we fight now? Um, would you rather be stung by an executioner wasp for a bullet ad? I don't know which one hurts more whichever one Just based on names. I'm gonna go with bullet ant I feel like executioner wasp is like a mean name that you give to a creature It's like an executioner wasp it sounds like an enemy with stats and dungeons and dragons You yeah, it's like naming it like the super horrible death wasp. I'm like, yeah Um, hi rags first ever super chat. Are you still always? Uh, thank you. Um, definitely definitely. I'm the most lesbian ish. I was I actually auditioned for bat woman Um, but they weren't ready for uh, they weren't ready to cast a dog They're not quite ready for the the trans species the diversity bat woman So I'm thinking season three or four. Maybe I'll give it another another try and now if they don't hire me I'll cry bigotry Um thoughts on the bush war. I don't know what that is. Do you guys know the bushes in the trees bushes? It's an australian something or no Yeah, I figured well, they're still bushes in australia. So I guess they won. Yeah, nice unless they slaves Oh, we'll never tell. I mean the boys that's who I am talking about politics. Yeah If that's opinion on the economic situation, uh in the republic of chad That's real. I don't know anything about the republic of chad and neither does anyone I hope the chads went out and the virgins lose. What can I say the chads went out? If you're from chad, what does that make you a it makes you a chad right? You're just a chad chadite a chaddee a chaddee a chaddee Ilan's getting a sheba. All right. That's really cool. That's newtie Also spy kids one or two I don't know Spike is why is that really profound line it does but spy kids one was the original it started the legendary franchise. So I have not seen them. I think maybe little clips, but I would like to see the spy kids movies one day Those are my goody faps. I bet it was a big very goody fap. Especially three How many yes, how many spy kids movies there were in spy kids? I thought there wasn't I think there were four Four came out later. Yeah spy kids spy kids to the island of lost dreams spy kids 3d game over and spy kids all the time In the world. Oh, wow. There was this first three came out consecutive years and spy kids four was in 2011 And that one was kind of eight year gap and it's kind of like spike his next generation kind of didn't shock Boy and lava girl get the sequel like last year I think we miss you Very easy crazy world we live in Maybe it's the corn fairy rags. You never know It could be the corn fairy. Absolutely. It could be the corn fairy Someone else can read this one But people are saying I block superchats. I haven't touched them Thoughts on jet fuel and the meltability of still beams Well, you think you don't have to melt metal in order for it to bend and lose its structural integrity So something to consider Um, Fringy, is it true you slept with the ewok? See ya king No, that's no, it's not true. I wouldn't sleep with an ewok guy there. Oh, if that meant to become yum king Oh, it could become yum king. They weren't yeah, you're not allowed to say yum in silver chat. So you had to shorten it Um, I wait, I enlisted the stream But I always do that in the last like half hour or so just because it's so I don't forget to do it later Apparently that stops people from sending more superchats, which by the way, I suppose that's gracious Yeah, you know, it's it's okay. Um, thank god, uh, man, that's just like your opinion, man All right Yes, all right. Uh, Fringy, are you a part of elm ewok lives matter? I'm not I'm not like a political activist or anything. So Uh, just never I'm not though. I'm actually directly opposed to elm Um, I think stormtrooper lives matter. Yeah. Yeah Uh, Fringy thoughts on jay being a woman now Had one man at least you're making the mule laugh Yeah, something Um, I don't know. It's a fun thought experiment interesting I mean your cat is already different to that one. The voting is um, I don't know Yeah, what happens when you change the animal? I feel like it'd be a lot easier to tell if there was an elephant around Yeah, it seems more stealthy. Well, if it was a big container, I would you know I think there was a gag of future I'm aware like it was about troding his cat and the joke was like regardless of whether the cat's alive or not If it's alive, it's probably really fucking angry about being locked in this box So just jump out and then starts attacking fry Uh, we have um what's on hyperpop music I have no idea what hyperpop music is but just by the name. I probably hate it Uh rags cornhub free anti bag No sleep till it. Yeah Um, by the way rags I lied My god, oh Uh, Fringy were you and friendly geordies take over the government? I'd like to meet friendly geordies. I'd be I think that'd be fun Yeah, big fan Uh P or poop Uh, P. Yeah, P. Yeah, I feel like P. Yeah, P. If I have to go to the bathroom and P. It's it's quicker. It's easier I can pee anywhere pooping is more awkward anywhere. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, obviously you can't piss on like anywhere like you should be outside Like in front of your tv, but there are more places. Yeah, definitely more options Fringy thoughts on retaking the holy land Pro retaking the holy land from the filthy saracens Which is a perfect one for to have stopped on people are very upset at me the noble cave it look I didn't even know that's what happened with unlisting But I think it's for the best because we're all very exhausted and you're not even getting like Super hyper high quality answers, you know, you're all trolling. I see you in chat I see one that wasn't a super chat that is all right thoughts on Tao to Qing. That's an interesting book. It's worth reading That's it. Hashtag me take the holy chat. You can't say Tao to Qing. You make fun of chinese words fringy. That's really offensive Retake the whole unless you're are you gonna say that they really talk like that and make it worse. Mm-hmm um Right before before we go though I think you know the evan and meme repository you guys Oh, yes, I'm fringing if you wanted that you'd be you're here a lot Do you guys all talk about what you do in channels before we we brought off to the sunset sunrise even I'm working on mandalorian video and I do efap podcast sometimes as well I also sometimes sleep god forbid if I ever get the chance Cool, uh, I'm I'm making a video on the last first part too I'm gonna work on getting my uh gameplay footage put together the script is done Just need to get it redrafted and then I plan to make a video on El Camino. Those should be coming out relatively soon. Don't know exactly Thank you. I love Oh man, you got no idea I'm obviously uh doing the dce eu efaps at the moment got justice looking at justice league, right Fuck it now with my own eyeballs. So that should hopefully be out soon. Um, I'm Also working on a mandalorian video that goes over The history of stormtroopers in the original trilogy and kind of really deconstructs why the mandalorian fucked up How the mandalorian fucked up stormtroopers badly? And I've also got 195 pages on the rise of skywalker that I eventually plan to make in my lifetime So that's a critique called um episode nine and atrocities. So that will be coming out eventually within this century Yeah Links for all of those in the description and uh I get a fringy you you want to throw your your hood into the ring Crash for video very soon. Keep an eye out. I'm also working on the fringy comic and a couple other things and um, that's it for now I'm talking about And I'm working on the boys video and more mulary mulary things are on the way as well as uh, Obviously the efap movies more batwamans more. I think me and rag still need to do a couple catch-ups maybe one or two or three who knows and uh This there's some offline efaps have been recorded that making their way out possibly next week. Not sure That's about it though. Thank you all so much for hanging out with us It's been a blast to all of those guests that were here and have since Gone to to live lives of their own. Thank you all as well and um, I appreciate the uh the donations of course and That that is that is about that Good night, everybody And yeah, good night. I hope you all have a great night. Goodbye. Thanks for showing up and sticking around Yes Toodle pip grio. Bye Bye