 Well, how long has this been going on? Well, at the conference where I was rather dismayed to see David Cunliffe, I believed acting disloyal and that's why I took the steps that I did. Was he actively plotting against you? Look, what I'm saying to you is that at the weekend I didn't believe his behaviour was loyal to me. I don't feel I can trust him. It's the vibe and no, that's it. It's the vibe. I rest my case.